The Ukrainian General Staff recognized the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the city of Izyum to the borders of the Donetsk region

In the south-east of the Kharkov region, Ukrainian troops were driven back to the Dry Kamenka River south of Izyum. A summary of the hostilities in this area is published by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which literally the day before claimed that "Ukrainian troops continue to keep Izyum under control."

It has already become customary for the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to publish reports that contradict each other, and the Ukrainian command no longer even tries to comment on such contradictions. It's just that one report is replaced by another, and the fact that the statements of the previous report are actually refuted in the new report is "not important" for the Ukrainian generals.

From Sukha Kamenka to the northern borders of the Donetsk region - just a few kilometers. The remnants of the Ukrainian garrison knocked out of Izyum, uniting with the units that advanced from Slavyansk, are trying to gain a foothold at the junction of two regions at the Dolina-Dolgenkoe line. To prevent this grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions from providing military assistance to groups from other parts of the Kharkiv region, Russian troops continue to block their forces in the direction of Barvenkovo.

Noteworthy is the recognition of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:

That is, the front in this sector (south of Izyum) is moving towards the borders of the Donetsk region.

Translated into ordinary language, this means that the Ukrainian troops are retreating.

According to information received from local residents, fighting is already underway on the northern borders of the Donetsk region.

At the same time, the Ukrainian General Staff announced the "involvement aviation". It is alleged that the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine allegedly shot down "several aircraft, two UAVs and a helicopter" of the Russian Aerospace Forces, and also "inflicted strikes on certain military targets on the ground." But for some reason, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not name either exactly which planes and UAVs “were shot down”, or where it all happened. Not even named the region. It is also not reported which “certain targets on the ground” were attacked by the Ukrainian Air Force.

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[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

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"How much is a pound of raisins?"...
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[Himalayan]

Yes, put the Dagger into this anonymous Headquarters, just a secret, a secret ... Polichenel

[militarist63]

... put the Dagger into this anonymous Headquarters already ...

To the club of anonymous staffers...

[rocket757]

Translated into ordinary language, this means that the Ukrainian troops are retreating.

Okay, it is RETREAT, not run.
We must recognize the real facts and build our plans based on this.
It is very noticeable that the bulk of the media create a picture ... do not understand what and for whom.
Even the layman can find a more or less objective judgment on the current situation ... if he wants, of course.

[dmi.pris1]

The inhabitant will not find anything there except victorious reports and a moving front. The information field has been cleared there

[rocket757]

There are workarounds, of course... a matter of wanting/not wanting to know more.
In general, everyone chooses for himself.

[Orel]

Quote: rocket757

We must recognize the real facts and build our plans based on this.

The original plan failed and ended up in the wastebasket. Now plan "B". Putin will try only in the Donbass for now, and then he will see what happens. Although so far everything is going approximately as it should, and then they will say that we won, the LDNR was liberated, the Ukrainian army was demoralized, denazified, how many military facilities we bombed there. The generals will say that the Ukrainian armed forces will "never recover" and in general "victory". We withdraw troops. We have already been told that the management in the UVS has been destroyed, there is no aviation, there are no warehouses, they have no reserves, and in general they are already an unorganized mass. And they deliver counterattacks and hold the front simply because they are in a panic. I just suspect that the original plan about "bread and salt and flowers" failed when they believed in their own propaganda about liberation, and now we begin to believe in the propaganda that "UVS is broken"

[Oleg Barchev]

At the initial stage, there was hope for the weak motivation of the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the reality turned out to be much tougher. We in Ukraine are opposed by a highly motivated army and it is impossible to divide the troops into the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions, and here and there the officers were selected and trained according to the degree of readiness to resist the Russian Army, which led to such fierce resistance. We do not forget that the ideological pumping was also present, for many servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine we are invaders, and not liberators from the Nazi bastards. And the fact that the fighting takes place mainly in densely populated areas under the cover of residential developments and local residents suffer is a military tactic (a petty excuse that the war will write everything off). In an open field, with complete superiority in the sky and missile weapons of the Russian Army, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no chance to resist.

[fa2998]

You rarely see an honest comment. I would write this, only tongue-tied. I agree!

[flicker]

I suspect that the original plan about "bread and salt and flowers" failed

"Suspicious" you, however.
Who told you that they plan to do so?
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When planning anything, three scenarios are considered:
1. The most favorable combination of circumstances
2. The most NOT favorable combination of circumstances
3. Between the first and second.

[Awaz]

what is happening now is worse than the most unfavorable scenario. Moreover, the inadequate statements of the first days scared away a part of the even more or less pro-Russian population, and the bombing of settlements further exacerbated all this.

[gsev]

Quote: AwaZ

what is happening now is worse than the most unfavorable scenario

The most unfavorable result would have been if a sudden strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against the DPR and LPR was allowed. Putin and Gerasimov, unlike Stalin and Zhukov, managed to deliver a preemptive strike and apparently immediately inflict unacceptable losses on the Ukrainian Air Force. Russia was able to keep its obligations under the Minsk agreements and showed that it is a real guarantor of their implementation and will not allow the genocide of Russians to go unpunished either in the Donbass, or in the Crimea, or in Moscow.

[flicker]

what is happening now is worse than the most unfavorable scenario

You seem to have revised UkrTV. In military terms, the special operation is more than successful, given that the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is carried out through the NATO network-centric structure. That's just the point.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine practically do not protrude from the cities, only shelling from residential areas.
In one month, the Russian Armed Forces knocked out 80% of the entire military potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Moreover, it was possible to tie down all the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine by stretching the front for 3 thousand km. and through total control of the airspace we do not allow the transfer of reserves. As a result: already finishing off the Mariupol grouping, the transition to the destruction of boilers in the Donbass - and there the most combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Then a huge amount of equipment and personnel will be released, which will probably be transferred to the capture of Kyiv.
Kyiv is not Donbass - it will be possible to take it with the help of active processing by aviation and MLRS.

[Awaz]

people like you, after watching all sorts of propagandists from Channel 1, wrote the same thing a week ago, two or even three, but in reality, everything that the RF Armed Forces did in the first 10 days has by and large still not changed. There is a sluggish massacre with fairly high losses on both sides. It is clear that having an advantage in aviation and even tanks with artillery, the RF Armed Forces are pressing and pressing, but there is still no significant breakthrough.
Talk about the fact that right now we will add in Mariupol and transfer 10 thousand to Donetsk and immediately destroy all the Natsiks is nonsense. Separate gangs of the unfinished will run in the city for a long time and terrorize everyone and everything, so most of those who fought there will be engaged in additional cleansing. 10 thousand is nothing. We only have more Chechen policemen. They will not affect the development of the overall situation. Now it is unequivocally clear that the forces are catastrophically lacking already. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to stubbornly resist and do not surrender ...
now the events are taking place in the most beneficial way for the Ukrainian authorities, with huge destruction of refugees by a humanitarian catastrophe in the battlefields, many casualties among the population. This picture pleases them and their sponsors and viewers in the Western world ... Now about the capture of cities. They took Mariupol for almost a month, and still who knows how much they will finish off. The city is shattered. Kyiv is many times larger and already better prepared by experience. Kharkov or Nikolaev is also not easy .. These are many months of bloody battles with huge destruction of victims and losses in the Armed Forces and the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces.

[flicker]

they wrote the same thing a week ago, and two or even three, but in reality, everything that the RF Armed Forces did in the first 10 days has, by and large, still not changed

Do you mean territory? Then we will take the territory, but for now we have pinned down the enemy and we are destroying the military infrastructure.

In the city, separate gangs of the unfinished will run for a long time and terrorize everyone and everything.

Yep, long time.

We only have more Chechen policemen. They will not affect the development of the general situation in any way ... And the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to stubbornly resist and do not surrender ...

Don't give up?

The boys wanted to surrender, but they were not allowed ... commanders.
And here is what an American reports about the special operation of Russia in Ukraine

Scott Ritter, a former American special forces soldier, a UN military expert, gives his assessment of how the events in Ukraine are covered in the Western media and what they really are.

This is a Western expert who has specialized all his life and studied how to fight strategically against the Russians and this is what he says:

Scott Ritter: I analyze like a military man. I spent many years early in my career learning tactics to close and destroy Soviet forces through fire maneuvering. I know these guys. I studied them for 35 years, their doctrine and equipment, their tactics of operation.

What we see is a classic multi-vector strategy. Its goal is to bind enemy forces, hold them in place, destroy command posts, encircle enemy forces and capture strategically important objects. Bypassing fortified areas where the battle would be too intense. It is not easy not to let them seize the initiative. The speed of advance of the Russian troops is higher than the speed of the German troops in Operation Blitzkrieg in World War II.

So if someone says "slow" - no, it's not slow, it's the fastest troop advance in history. Especially considering that the Ukrainian army consisted of 260 personnel, trained and equipped to NATO standards, with a tightly linked system of command, effectively managed by officers. It is also worth considering the support of 000-200 reservists, and auxiliary units, and services. And so the Russians began with 300-000 soldiers to face a force of 190 soldiers.

Usually at the start of a campaign, you'll have a three-to-one advantage on the offensive side. The Russians started the operation with a one-to-three advantage, or one-to-four on the side of Ukraine.

[Awaz]

you are talking nonsense and talking nonsense. I'll start from the end: tell me why it was suddenly decided to conduct a military operation without overwhelming superiority in drugs? Is it that it was originally a failed operation, that is, a set-up? Secondly, here _ in the Lao PDR there were somewhere around 50 thousand bayonets with reserves plus mobilization. Russian troops initially entered with a contingent somewhere in the region of 100 thousand, but if all this is spread along the front for almost 3 thousand km, this is nothing. Why did it have to do so? This is exactly what fits into my concept that the original plan was not at all the same as the operation is currently underway. Now about the prisoners. Believe me, as soon as they are released, and even if our troops leave the remnants of Ukraine, these lads will immediately sing differently: they say we fought to the last bullet and they took us in number, then what we said was because we were beaten and tortured and forced to talk and all in the same spirit. I would now remove all damage from all Ukrainian prisoners of war immediately after getting to ours with the fixation and signature of clients - because then they will start singing about torture and mutilation ... If they are exchanged now, half of them will run to fight further. And what would be a prisoner to surrender, if the commanders do not give, then stray bullets constantly fly in the war and the commander can be slapped if you really want to surrender and not stay in the grass to rot ... So don’t be here .. Initially, Putin personally said that the territory of Ukraine is not needed, let's just slam the Nazis. and Lao PDR release. But for a month of fighting, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are still harassing Donetsk from Gradov ... For a couple of days, information has gone out that all forces are being pulled up to the Kharkov-Donetsk region in order to really liberate the territory. Forces not from Russia attract, namely those that are in Ukraine, it’s just that there are probably no others, or everyone is trying to play a “unique operation” ..

[Awaz]

Ah such your option was possible even a week ago. Now it is possible, but to a much lesser extent.
And so, judging by the words of our officials and specialists responsible for the operation, the plan was simple: The entry of troops into the LDNR, a massive attack on several weakened sectors of the front, cutting and encircling the APU grouping in the Donbas region, with demonstrative missile strikes on some military infrastructure , with the introduction of troops to the border Ukrainian territories so that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would not be able to transfer reserves to the Donbass. Then an ultimatum. It is clear that they will not immediately accept and will twitch, then begin to destroy the encircled troops and more seriously bomb the military infrastructure. When it became clear to Zelensky that the EU and the USA would not help, he would have given up on the second third attempt at an ultimatum. They hardly hoped that the people would come out to meet with flowers, because they immediately said that they would not occupy and the troops would immediately be withdrawn. But probably for a media picture, they hoped ...
But, as we can see, the forces did not calculate, obstinacy and ideological pumping were also not calculated and got what they got: a viscous slowly flowing conflict with severe destruction and casualties both among the military and among the civilians.
A month has passed. The shelling of Donetsk did not stop, but intensified even more. An attempt to break through the defense already in a continuous stream turns out badly, which leads to casualties among the LS and civilians. It seems that they have added strength, but still there is no critical advantage in the LS, and there is not enough aviation, and intelligence does not always work successfully. This can be observed when entire columns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine can still move freely in broad daylight, but I’m not even talking about the night.
So, a month has passed, everything is bogged down in a positional war, which is developing according to the worst version of the worst version of the development of events. Now, judging by the body movements, the RF Armed Forces are concentrating in order to actually liberate the territories of the Lao PDR and close the topic of shelling at least Donetsk.
Since I said from the very beginning that if in the first three four five days they don’t make a ring around the Donetsk grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, negotiations can be started on how to get out of the situation without serious loss of face. They started talking at the same time. Two weeks ago and even a week there was still a chance that they would somehow agree, but now there can hardly be any talk of capitulation with the preservation of the remnants of Ukraine. Either the authorities of the Russian Federation, shamefully surrender and return everything to the status quo, or go to the end. But there is no longer any strength to finish up to Uzhgorod. Therefore, the topic of dividing the territory will probably go. And if at least it is possible to bargain for the left-bank Ukraine, all the sacrifices will not be in vain. And yes, the remnants of Ukraine will turn into a Nazi reserve, from which we will receive constant threats of attack and even shelling, and where all anti-Russian evil will be concentrated, but there are no other options, at least not in sight. Well, or I don’t know, somewhere somehow lucky by chance ...

[MMX]

And they deliver counterattacks and hold the front simply because they are in a panic.

About the fact that the original plan was false, I agree. It is even possible that the plan "B" has such outlines as you have described.
But about the "counterattacks" you somehow boldly stated. The Ukrainian side is completely devoid of initiative and advantage in maneuver. Given that Ukraine does not have many resources, this will inevitably lead to defeat if the Russian side maintains an offensive pace.

[Carat]

The remnants of the Ukrainian garrison knocked out of Izyum, united with units, advanced from Slavyansk,

I do not understand something. Why were the remnants of the Izyum garrison and the troops advancing from Slavyansk not destroyed by aircraft while they were walking along the road outside the settlements?

[Murmur 55]

Karat, because they were not destroyed, that's why, I have already written many questions that have no answers, and there is no point in asking them the answer is one, everything goes according to plan.

[vitvit123]

Who can answer this question for you? Really, can anyone here answer this question?
And yet, do you know for sure that there was no fire suppression during the retreat of the APU? To have something to talk about...

[Carat]

It would be fire suppression the two groups did not meet. Those who left Slavyansk would at least return back after suffering heavy losses.

[vitvit123]

Do you know for sure that no one suffered a loss?

[Murmur 55]

vitvit123 , over the past couple of days, M.O. of Russia has posted a video of the destruction of V.S. of Ukraine, they don’t upload strikes on columns, why? They won’t answer here, but this doesn’t mean that the question can’t be asked, maybe someone knows a little more or is more prone to analytics, he noticed that the third day Yu. They are not here?

[vitvit123]

I look at Podolyak, but he is also not always accurate, well, it’s understandable ...
There are no troop advances, I noticed .. why? There can be two answers: 1. We can’t overpower it .. but knowing that we are fighting with a limited contingent, I think that we still have forces, we still have to cope with NATO ..
2. They don’t want to make big losses of their own and civilians .. even more than their own .. this answer comes to my mind more true .. they are trying to get the LDNR to do their (very hard) work with our support ..
The fact that there is no information here about this or that suppression by artillery (etc.), this does not mean that it did not exist in reality .. after all, what is being voiced here is among the military the first year of the academy ..

[Grits]

Quote: Murmur 55

noticed that the third day at Yu. Podolyak in a summary of streamlined forms regarding the advancement of our troops

Podolyak is even bored to watch - the essence is the same - at the front without changes and without significant success.

[Okolotochny]

Enough hysteria. If you think that you are smarter than the command of the groupings of the RF Armed Forces and smarter than the command of the General Staff, then go ahead, move the slogan - we will support you.

[Tosha]

vitvit123
Who can answer this question for you?

This question of yours is difficult/almost impossible to answer.

[vitvit123]

It's very hard to wait..

[Tosha]

and it makes no sense to ask them the answer is one, everything goes according to plan.

So, .. Marinka that (3 km from Donetsk) ours took a week ago - it’s 25 km from it to Kurakhovo, and ours, as they say in the review reports, advancing from the south, free from Bandera a day somewhere around 5 km (or overnight) - ours should have been in this Kurakhovo for a long time - maybe they will be today!

[sustav75]

Patamushto GDP still hopes to come to an agreement with them! So they take power into their own hands...

[Carat]

With whom was he going to negotiate? With the Nazis? You don't agree with them.

[Tosha]

Maybe the Izyumov dill were not exactly Nazis. Maybe after the end of the special operation they plan to use them in the protection and prosperity of the DPR.

[Murmur 55]

sustav75, it’s unlikely that the military will not demolish Zelensky there, and that’s strange, the Armed Forces of Ukraine don’t run either, well, the stubborn Nazis understandably they have nothing to lose + chemistry. And these are what I cut to the stop?

[Mikhail Sidorov]

that's strange, the Armed Forces of Ukraine don't run either, well, the stoned Nazis understandably they have nothing to lose + chemistry. And these are what I cut to the stop?

Because the Armed Forces of Ukraine in their composition in the majority are Natsiks. What the commander said. APU Zaluzhny mockery of prisoners. What is fake. Because graduates of military schools are marching to nationalist marches. There is the whole essence of ukronationalism in the army in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Murmur 55]

Mikhail Sidorov , Zaluzhny believe not to respect himself, the fosterlings of the Goebelian, then why are we babysitting with their Armed Forces of Ukraine, why do these gestures of "Leopold the cat" show these that we are good? So they will not appreciate and will not accept.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

I absolutely agree with you. I write about that and where is the line between a nationalist and a soldier, how to distinguish. Why a soldier is not necessarily a nationalist, what makes it difficult to combine it. In my opinion, this is one field of berries.

[vitvit123]

Yes, not what he does not feed .., do not take him for a fool ..

[Tosha]

Everything is strange. But it was possible, as the comrades wrote here yesterday, simply to mine the withdrawal of Bandera to the south with the mines of the Farmer.

[Murmur 55]

Tosha , and it is possible and necessary, but this has not been done and the Armed Forces of Ukraine + the Nazis continue to fight somewhere ours are not working up to it.

[Tosha]

Murmur - maybe there just wasn’t this Farmer, or we didn’t have artillery, or something; or maybe the gap between our advancing and retreating dill was such that there was a chance that our soldiers would fall under this fire.

[Murmur 55]

Tosha, I hinted about this when I wrote that ours are not being finalized.

[Jekakiller258]

where ours do not work up to.

Are you criticizing the RF Armed Forces? Do you know everything to say that? Or do you think they are stupider than you in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?

[Jekakiller258]

They went out at night, in women's clothes, crawling ...

[Murmur 55]

Jekakiller258 , it would be funny if our guys were not killed there, tortured.

[Jekakiller258]

I suggested why the Armed Forces of Ukraine were not destroyed on the march. Or were there no such cases? What funny thing did I say? And how does this affect the loss of our troops?

[gansales]

Quote: Carat

The remnants of the Ukrainian garrison knocked out of Izyum, united with units, advanced from Slavyansk,

I do not understand something. Why were the remnants of the Izyum garrison and the troops advancing from Slavyansk not destroyed by aircraft while they were walking along the road outside the settlements?

Most likely to give up go! There is no ammunition, help too .. They are just being watched! And it's not a tricky thing to destroy .. Then catch them one by one in the steppes .. They go towards the border of the Donetsk region ha ha ha With songs, probably Sche ne died? They are on the right path!!!!! And they are already waiting
So they probably go)))))

[Cron]

Quote: Carat

I do not understand something. Why were the remnants of the Izyum garrison and the troops advancing from Slavyansk not destroyed by aircraft while they were walking along the road outside the settlements?

I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, but two weeks ago I saw a post in the telegram channel "Older Edda" about how our aviation works in the Izyum region. And it works extremely carefully, since the enemy still has serious air defense in the form of Beeches, etc. The person is in the thick of things, you can read.
And for this reason, ours are still hitting a number of objects with expensive cruise missiles, and not aviation cast iron. Air defense remnants, although focal, can still show teeth. So, it seems to me that the problem is precisely in the not completely suppressed enemy air defense.

[flicker]

what I do not understand. Why were the remnants of the Izyum garrison and the troops advancing from Slavyansk not destroyed by aircraft while they were walking along the road outside the settlements?

Maybe because they weren't walking, they were driving. And also

From Sukha Kamenka to the northern borders of the Donetsk region - just a few kilometers.

And how far can you travel this distance? Maximum 10 minutes. And how long does it take for planes (which are on the territory of Russia) to be in that place?
In addition, aircraft are still not used to destroy infantry.
The remnants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreated to the settlement of Dolgenkoye, where they were treated with MLRS and TOSs.
It is reported that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are starting to build defenses near the village of Borvenkovo. So Dolgenkoe was well processed.
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So let's not teach the Russian army to fight.

[Grits]

Quote: Carat

Why were the remnants of the Izyum garrison and the troops advancing from Slavyansk not destroyed by aircraft while they were walking along the road outside the settlements?

Probably because other Ukrainian units continue to ride and maneuver. Despite the peppy claims that the sky is completely under our control. Apparently, sky control is clearly not enough.
No matter how our staff officers hide behind the words that everything is going according to plan, it is already clear to any fool that the operation has stalled. An advance of a couple of kilometers would be great in the First World War. But judging by the available source, there is no build-up of the group. This means that very soon the troops will stop altogether and begin to dig trenches. It seems that Western analysts are not far from the truth about the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine went out of shock and began to give a serious rebuff.
How I would love to be wrong...

[strannik1985]

Apparently, sky control is not enough.

It depends on how and on what they moved, if on civilian vehicles, then there are no problems, there is traffic on the roads, ours try not to touch civilian cars without 100% confirmation.

[flicker]

It seems that Western analysts are not far from the truth about the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine went out of shock and began to give a serious rebuff.

Yep, not much. The third day the corpses of the Natsiks are taken out.

A unique video (since it is now forbidden to film the destruction). This is Artemovsk (Bakhmut), a non-alcoholic beverages factory, where the base and barracks of the "Nazis" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine were located (entrance from Konstantinovka). On Friday, rockets flew there, and this is how it looks now. The corpses of the "Nazis" and the military are still being taken out of there ...
t.me/mig41
final match.
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[Elephant]

It is necessary, as in the Second World War, to use the tactics of a barrage of fire in order to destroy the weapons and manpower of Banderlog as much as possible and save the lives of the Russian military! In open space, when moving ukrovoyaks and in fortified areas, pinpoint strikes are not much needed

[Carat]

Quote: Elephant

in open space, when moving ukrovoyak pinpoint strikes are not much needed

However, for some reason, the two groups calmly passed and met. Now knock them out of the next settlement.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Who says "quietly passed and met"?

[flicker]

Now knock them out of the next settlement.

They'll knock it out. These are not the settlements prepared over the years.
Don't worry like that. The third day the corpses of the Natsiks are taken out. There are many of those.

A unique video (since it is now forbidden to film the destruction). This is Artemovsk (Bakhmut), a non-alcoholic beverages factory, where the base and barracks of the "Nazis" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine were located (entrance from Konstantinovka). On Friday, rockets flew there, and this is how it looks now. The corpses of the "Nazis" and the military are still being taken out of there ...
t.me/mig41
final match.
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[Murmur 55]

Elephant , as in V.O. In it didn’t work out there was a war, but here special. operation.

[Vladimir 290]

I would like to know in more detail what you think a "barrage of fire" is, what it is used for, well, can you tell me how many barrels per 1 km, do you intend to use the approximate consumption of ammunition?

[House 25 Sq. 380]

And what was the density of artillery during the Second World War per kilometer?

[strannik1985]

Perhaps you meant consistent concentration of fire?

[dimy44]

and the fact that the new report actually refutes the statements of the previous report is "not important" for the Ukrainian generals.

So after all, it doesn’t matter for the local people either. Seeing in the text the magical "shot down", "inflicted", "thrown away" they joyfully squeal and immediately forget what they wrote there before.

[Vladimir 290]

So after all, the details are on the maps, which are unlikely to be shown to anyone in the near future. It is necessary either to participate in the planning and conduct of the operation yourself or be content with the media.

[Tosha]

So the details are on the maps.

Yesterday there was an interview with an experienced DPR officer - he said that Bandera had three lines of defense there, all in concrete, trenches, etc. They probably stretch from Izyum and go south there, to Kurakhovo. So the retreating people jumped into them and, along the passages that are hard and slow to take, as this officer said (as it was written in the review yesterday), they simply ran to their own, to the southern part of the grouping and, there they joined in these unkillable and many kilometers trenches.
In the Google map, you can view from above - what are these lines of defense - trench shelters.

[YOUR]

Translated into ordinary language, this means that the Ukrainian troops are retreating.

What are you. For this, Adik also came up with a wording. Troops straighten the front line.

[svoit]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

Because the Armed Forces of Ukraine in their composition in the majority are Natsiks

Or maybe it’s not only this, but also the fact that the people there are fired upon, experienced, they know when to retreat, when to surrender, but now these conditions have not yet come, they believe that garbage, where ours didn’t disappear, happened worse

[cat Rusich]

Quote: svoit

Or maybe it’s not only this, but also the fact that the people there are fired upon, experienced, they know when to retreat, when to surrender, but now these conditions have not yet come, they believe that garbage, where ours didn’t disappear, happened worse

Do not take such experienced prisoners.
And it is easy to explain to all the rest of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that those who "resist" and do not scatter will simply die in battle, without an offer to surrender ...
It is necessary to finish the "month of philanthropy" and start fighting for real.

[sen]

A summary of the hostilities in this area is published by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which literally the day before claimed that "Ukrainian troops continue to keep Izyum under control."

One of two things: either they know and lie, or they have a complete mess there.

[rotmistr60]

For some reason, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not name either exactly which planes and UAVs were “shot down”, or where it all happened

And they don’t need it, because. zombified by the Aristoviches and inadequate mayors, the layman believes everything that is hung on his ears and hurries to smash it around the world. Even when he sees Russian tanks in the center of Kyiv in his window, he will happily shout that the Russian troops have been defeated and are already retreating in the Moscow region.
In response, the Representative of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation clearly reported on 4 downed aircraft and 19 UAVs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, indicating the date and place (for those who doubt).

[Yuri Vishnevetsky-Koribut]

The retreating troops (the ABC of war) are subjected to massive strikes with all types of weapons, tk. the defense infrastructure has already been breached, to the point of complete destruction. There is no time to lose.

[The collective farm is voluntary.]

Here I look at the photo of the warriors and am amazed - many force with Ksenia. In the photo, either attack aircraft, for which the size is very important, or I am far behind life.

[XNUMX%]

They are crazy, they are clinical schizophrenics. Recognizing the obvious for them is very difficult work. This is a purely Ukrainian feature - CHAMLOID SCHIZOPHRENIA. It is transmitted genetically.