Germany intends to purchase Israeli missile defense systems Arrow 3

Germany intends to strengthen its missile defense with Israeli missile defense systems. According to the German publication Bild, citing its own sources, we are talking about the Arrow 3 system.

Russia's special operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine greatly frightened the European Union, making it think about the effectiveness of missile defense, which the United States has been building over the past years, investing billions of dollars and euros in it. Recent events have shown that European airspace is not controlled, and the Soviet-made Tu-141 Swift drone, launched from Ukraine and crashed in Croatia, served as proof of this. The vaunted American missile defense systems simply did not detect his flight.

Against this background, information appeared that Germany intends to strengthen its anti-aircraft system by purchasing Israeli Arrow 3 systems. Reportedly, discussions on the purchase have already taken place, but a final decision has not yet been made. If it is approved, the agreement will cost 2 billion euros, and the system will be deployed by 2025.

According to the plans of the German military, Arrow 3 radars will be placed in three places in such a way that they will cover not only the territory of Germany, but also Poland, as well as Romania or the Baltic countries. It will be enough for these countries to purchase the launchers of the system, and Germany will provide the radar data.

According to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, the Strela-3 air defense system (Arrow 3 or Hetz-3) is the most advanced Israeli long-range missile defense system designed to intercept ballistic missiles. The air defense system was developed by Israel jointly with the United States. The developers include the American Missile Defense Agency.

The complex was designed to strengthen the "top echelon" of the Israeli missile defense system and should effectively counter the entire range of potential threats. The design of Arrow 3 implements the hit-to-kill principle, which involves the destruction of the target by a direct hit of the anti-missile warhead.

Earlier in Tel Aviv, they announced that the Arrow 3 missile defense system would be exported.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

Germany intends to purchase Israeli missile defense systems Arrow 3

It's about time. Cover Scholz's ass, from Iranian missiles. Do we no longer trust American missile defense systems?

The airspace of Europe is not controlled, and the proof of this was the Soviet-made Tu-141 Strizh drone, launched from the territory of Ukraine and crashed in Croatia.

Let's be kinder. It’s just that the Negro operator on duty was stretching a captured Croatian woman on the radar .... So it happened...

[Giant thought]

The Germans are trying to lay straws, they have become painfully sensitive to the successes of our Calibers, Iskanders and Daggers.

[krot]

S-400 Germans do not want to buy from us? This would be the best solution

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: krot

S-400 Germans do not want to buy from us? This would be the best solution

They seem to have their own MEADS air defense system, but they haven’t gone into a large series yet.

[faiver]

S-400 Germans do not want to buy from us?

- so you have to buy for rubles

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: krot

S-400 Germans do not want to buy from us? This would be the best solution

Yes, how to say. There are not many rubles .... Here they are thrown off for gas, so tyutelka in tutelka. And Scholz again has sexual fantasies. Romantic. Or a senile, which in politics is the same thing. Loss of sense of reality.

[Alex K_2]

So he will determine our missiles as his own and will not shoot at them
The Germans suspect it...

[Edik]

Quote: krot

S-400 Germans do not want to buy from us? This would be the best solution

They want to, but they already have all the missiles with nuclear weapons at home. True, these are American .. So Russian air defense will no longer help them And what they are thinking of buying, well, they have already thought for them.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Giant thought

The Germans are trying to lay straws, they have become painfully sensitive to the successes of our Calibers, Iskanders and Daggers.

Well, the Israeli Arrow 3 missile defense systems will solve all their problems. This is for Putin, though the Scholtzes have always been stupid (as was Muller's adjutant).

[sen]

Well, the Israeli Arrow 3 missile defense systems will solve all their problems

No, they decide. They cannot stand against hypersonic ones.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: sen

No decide. They cannot stand against hypersonic ones.

What did you want to say?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: sen

They cannot stand against hypersonic ones.

Do not write nonsense.
The Arrow-3 system is sharpened for kinetic interception of the BSRD (and ICBM warheads), for transatmospheric area where practically ANY The IRBM has a speed measured in km / s, that is, comparable to hypersonic.
The speed of the interceptor missile itself is Mach 9+ (3 km / s), that is, it is also hypersonic, and what do you think it should intercept? carrier pigeons? Balloons?

[Alex K_2]

You wrote it right ballistic rockets. They, no matter how fast they fly, fly along a ballistic trajectory. In this case, the location of the object at each moment of time is calculated and the anti-missile can be sent in advance to the calculated rendezvous point.
And our Daggers, Zircons, and even Caliber, which are slow compared to them, do not fly along a ballistic trajectory. Here the rocket must be caught up. Much more difficult task.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex K_2

And our Daggers, Zircons, and even Caliber, which are slow compared to them, do not fly along a ballistic trajectory.

And you don't write nonsense.
dagger it aeroballistic a rocket, like the same Iskander, only air launch. And its trajectory is ballistic or quasi-ballistic, which is not essential.
There is still no reliable data on the Zircon, as well as on its flight path, speeds, engine type, etc., it may also eventually turn out to be an aeroballistic glider, similar to Chinese projects, but it makes no sense to discuss conjectures.
And "Caliber" is a transonic missile launcher, which (like the similar Tomogawk) can be handled by almost any existing air defense that is not in crooked hands.

[NIKN]

More "Patriots" of 2 pieces per kilometer and you will be happy.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: NIKNN

More "Patriots" of 2 pieces per kilometer and you will be happy.

See saber swung 2 pcs. per km. How are fences built? So, board to board, rocket to racket, KR maybe hooked with a belly on a sharp toe. Bring it on Lord. And "reign lying on your side!" (Pushkin, if anything, I do not claim authorship)

[Jekakiller258]

It seems that the whole world has already figured out where to buy rockets .. Why did you choose Arrow 3? Unlike the American ones, have the Israelis somehow proven themselves well?

[PN]

Well, when (like a year ago) there was a massive shelling of the Jews by the Palestinians, it seems that the Palestinians did not achieve much success.

[Jekakiller258]

That's what I'm talking about!

[lucul]

Well, when (like a year ago) there was a massive shelling of the Jews by the Palestinians,

Shelling with rusty pipes and along an unchanging trajectory)))

[PN]

You're stuck in the late 90s. Firstly, they no longer use rusty pipes, and secondly, Iran delivered a lot of missiles to them then. And yes, this one is designed for ballistic missiles, and they often fly in a straight line. But the hetz-3 has an engine with a variable thrust vector, so it is possible that they will also work on quasi-ballistic missiles ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: PN

You're stuck in the late 90s.

Nah, he's just a local provocateur pushing anti-Israeli agitation.

[Egoza]

Quote from Jekakiller258

Unlike the American ones, have the Israelis somehow proven themselves well?

Cheaper, probably. Germany, too, now needs to think about prices. I wonder if Israel will sell or not?

[Kuroneko]

The Jews have at least something working. At short distances.
And the vaunted Patriots managed to screw up wherever they could. And I'm not exaggerating.

[Opiuk]

Not only for short distances. David's sling will work great at medium distances, and arrows at long distances.

[Opiuk]

Israeli air defense / missile defense systems are basically more profitable in terms of price and capabilities than American ones. That's even if you take arrow 3 and SM-3 Aegis.
The approximate cost of one arrow 3 anti-missile is $ 3 million, the range is 2400 km, one sm-3 block IA / B anti-missile costs at least $ 11 million for a range of only 900-1200 km, in terms of flight speed arrow 3 is at least not slower, but most likely faster, and also has thrust vector control and excellent maneuverability, besides, arrow 3 does not need a ship with Aegis. Yes, and the director of the US Missile Defense Agency, Patrick J. O'Reilly, said in 2009 that the design of the Israeli arrow that they developed together would be an extremely powerful system, and more advanced than what they did in the USA.
Therefore, it is not surprising that Germany's choice fell on the Israeli system, it is much more profitable.

[And Us Rat]

Quote from Jekakiller258

Why did you choose Arrow 3?

Because, as it turned out, the S-500 (after the publication of the data) has parameters similar to the Arrow-3, only for the purchase of the latter, "hello" from the states will not arrive like the Turks for the S-400.

[Thrifty]

The Germans would do well to create their own similar weapons, the economy is strong, and the technical side is also not a problem!

[Jekakiller258]

Apparently their mother (USA) does not allow them!

[lucul]

The Germans would do well to create their own similar weapons, the economy is strong, and the technical side is also not a problem!

In order for them to build it, they will have to take the best engineers from Daimler, Siemens and other pillars of the German economy. Just take them away - then where is that economy going to be. Last but not least, the successes of the German and Japanese economies (in technology) were caused precisely by the ban on military development, as a result of which the best minds of engineers were thrown out into the civilian world.

[Kuroneko]

The self-sufficient military-industrial complex in Europe remained only with France.

[SUKRAM]

If the wests true masters say you got to buy this or that, then they must follow.

[Kuroneko]

Sure, pal. It's called - democracy and freedom.
What a laugh. =3

[Alien From]

You are very democratic! Whatever there is a Negro Negro not cassed, it's closer now ......

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Germany intends to purchase Israeli missile defense systems Arrow 3

It's about time. Cover Scholz's ass, from Iranian missiles. Do we no longer trust American missile defense systems?

So it seems... We have been told for many years that the American missile defense system in Poland is not against us, but against Iran. We (well, Germany too) had to cut a geography textbook out of our head with a rusty saw and believe it.

Now what comes out? Is the missile defense system not coping with Iran, or has America, as usual, lied?...

In Germany, they don't want to think about it?

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Germany intends to purchase Israeli missile defense systems Arrow 3

It's about time. Cover Scholz's ass, from Iranian missiles. Do we no longer trust American missile defense systems?

The airspace of Europe is not controlled, and the proof of this was the Soviet-made Tu-141 Strizh drone, launched from the territory of Ukraine and crashed in Croatia.

Let's be kinder. It’s just that the Negro operator on duty was stretching a captured Croatian woman on the radar .... So it happened...

So he flew to Croatia through 2 NATO countries

[Maz]

Well, what can I say - a respect to Israel, this special operation of Russia is manna from heaven for him, or rather money, he must kiss and lick V.V. Putin in all places, and pray for Russia day and night. They had never even dreamed of such babos before near the wailing wall, there are so many orders from European countries for high-precision weapons that there are not enough working capacities and hands for production. "Wanted" ads are littered with both the Internet and employment agencies! And no matter how Israel is blasphemed, the fucked-up Zelya, and the Jews did not get directly into the conflict and as a result received a sea of ​​​​dough, jobs and the envy of competitors. And words are not money that does not smell.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Maz

and the Jews did not get into the conflict, and as a result, a sea of ​​dough.

Well, how ... If we consider that our Forpost UAV was created on the basis of the Israeli Searcher II, it turns out that Israel, albeit indirectly, unwittingly, but still had a hand in the defeat of modern Nazism. As dill would say, tse kosher zrada.

[ARIONkrsk]

Let them take it, it’s a pity or something, if anything, the hypersound will reset.

[rocket757]

According to the plans of the German military, Arrow 3 radars will be placed in three places in such a way that they will cover not only the territory of Germany, but also Poland, as well as Romania or the Baltic countries. It will be enough for these countries to purchase the launchers of the system, and Germany will provide the radar data.

. It turns out, a single network of control and guidance, dispersed launchers.
An attempt to create an effective missile defense.
As recent and previous events show, missiles remain an effective strike weapon and no one knows how to defend themselves completely against them.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

And that they will intercept. Cruise missiles cannot be intercepted by such a system, and Iskanders, as it turned out, have decoys.

[faiver]

well, at least the "swifts" will not miss

[Poetry]

It will even be possible to check this system, whether it will intercept our "rusty" missile or not.
Get, fascist, a rocket!

[tralflot1832]

ABM Arrow 3 is definitely against Iranian missiles. Will Germany definitely need missile defense missiles in 2025? Maybe firewood will still be needed. And in Israel there is firewood, but very little.

[Aviator_]

And in Israel there is firewood, but very very little.

Let them chop in Lebanon, where Lebanese cedars once grew, the latter is depicted on the flag. And so, it seems, even before our era, the Phoenicians took them to the ships, but maybe a little bit remained for firewood.

[tralflot1832]

There are Lebanese cedars in Sochi, but we won’t give them. We need it ourselves, beautiful ones.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: Aviator_

And in Israel there is firewood, but very very little.

Let them chop in Lebanon, where Lebanese cedars once grew, the latter is depicted on the flag. And so, it seems, even before our era, the Phoenicians took them to the ships, but maybe a little bit remained for firewood.

There, Solomon chopped them down to his temple in Jerusalem, as the Phoenicians never dreamed of.

[Dirty Liar]

Yes, as it turned out, "Swifts" - they are who you need "Swifts.

[Crete 25]

Grandmothers-grandmothers-grandmothers ... Golden time for the defense industry

[Nafanya from the sofa]

So what? The Germans want to buy modern weapons with their own money. Their right.

[Reader 2013]

Tu 141 swift, thought that it was flying over the countries of the Washavian treaty, did not twitch, so it calmly flew

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Or maybe they are preparing for the US withdrawal from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.

[svp67]

Earlier in Tel Aviv, they announced that the Arrow 3 missile defense system would be exported.

And where is Yaroslavna’s cry about this ..... oooh Zelensky ?????

[Fisherman]

but they don’t give him .... and they won’t let him ... if he were sitting in Kuev and commanding the troops, maybe they would have given something .... but to the Clown sitting at the US military base in Poland, who films and posts false videos "I'm in Kyiv", without real command of the army - no one will give real powerful effective weapons.

[Fisherman]

Europe is big, instead of "green energy" they will now have to spend money on missile defense / air defense ... a lot ... a lot ... an unprecedented amount .... and why did they follow the US lead and brew this "mess" on a ruin? The Yankees are understandable - they will now sell their weapons to Europe over the ceiling and a lot. The Yankees warm their hands at every war ... it's time for them to cut off these little hands. Supply powerful air defense / missile defense systems to Serbia, increase a bit the number of Iskanders and Daggers (the same ones that are "simple missiles, it's impossible to intercept" St. Biden) with us, increase aviation - and the stingy Germans will understand that it is better to be friends with us and not spend money on inefficient systems, it is better to trade than to fight!

[kytx]

Here writers with VO are lazy. Could bring the performance characteristics of the air defense system. But no.. had to google.
In short, it is positioned as the first frontier with a range of 100 kilometers. Well, I don't understand.
Designed for ballistic missiles.
If target designation will be given from Germany about the interception of lionfish, it is useless to speak kmk.
Weird movements IMHO.
Patrick is happier on paper, at least.

[gansales]

Germany intends to purchase Israeli missile defense systems Arrow 3

Who is the protection from? From the Russians? Or is it purely business, and the Jews?
Maybe enough to milk Germany?

[And Us Rat]

Quote from gansales

Maybe enough to milk Germany?

Are you sorry? Are you worried about German money?

[Astra55]

Arrow 3 will be placed in three places in such a way that they will cover not only the territory of Germany, but also Poland, as well as Romania

Do they want to defend their Germany in Romania? Original.
I won’t be surprised if after Ukraine a new NATO ultimatum follows to get out to the 1990 borders.

[grandfather_Kostya]

Some kind of half-hearted solution, but what about "random" missiles from Spain or Scotland?

[Thunderbolt]

A noble system, I wish the Germans good luck in mastering it.

[XNUMX%]

And all this is initially useless, against those against whom this system is put up, that is, against us.
There's something else... in this deal.

[sen]

Against this background, information appeared that Germany intends to strengthen its anti-aircraft system by purchasing Israeli Arrow 3 systems.

That's not what Germany needs to think about. Prices are rising, people are outraged and the German leadership is well aware that Russia will not attack them. Like in that movie: everyone ran and I ran.

[Alla Nechugovskaya]

Jacob, Russian missile defense systems are also possible
buy. They are more reliable. All of Europe at once, in bulk, like gas. For rubles. It will be much more reliable. And certainly no one will dare to offend Europe under the wing of Russia

[sen]

Jacob, Russian missile defense systems are also possible

Turkey has already tried without US permission.

[Opiuk]

So what to buy if Russia does not have one? The S-400 is an air defense system that will not even close to provide the range that the arrow 3 (2400 km) provides, the possibility of extra-atmospheric interception of ballistic missiles is also absent. Or will Russia sell the A-235?)

[And Us Rat]

Earlier in Tel Aviv, they said

Enough to replicate this idiocy, in Tel Aviv, no one could say anything, due to the lack of any authorized people to do so.
If beliefs do not allow writing Jerusalem - there are still a lot of turns of speech, you can write "the position of Israel", or "the position of the Israeli capital."
It's as if they wrote about the position of the Russian Federation - "the official position of Saratov", just because the author (due to some kind of stubborn ideology) does not want to recognize Moscow as the capital of Russia, does it sound crazy?
Wake up already, Brezhnev's manuals are outdated.
Pearls about Tel Aviv are idiocy and ignorance, just from the point of view of reality, facts and common sense.

[Viktor Sergeev]

The Arabs were brought in, now it remains to give them the opportunity to make home-made rockets and launch them around Berlin, and then the Iron Dome will turn out bad. Well, or there is another option: to perform an operation to implant the brain in the head of some German officials.

[Simon]

Germany intends to purchase Israeli Arrow 3 missile defense systems, the agreement will cost 2 billion euros, and the system will be deployed by 2025.

. By that time, ours are already modernizing their missile systems.

[Yuri Vishnevetsky-Koribut]

Let them buy, and we will walk through Poland from Kaliningrad and Brest, slowly, drink beer. Brutal marines will rush by the sea.