73rd Marine Special Operations Center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Combat swimmers, punishers and close defeat

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73rd Marine Special Operations Center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Combat swimmers, punishers and close defeat

Emblem of the 73rd MTSSPO. Graphics of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

As part of the Special Operations Forces of Ukraine, there are several different formations with certain tasks. So, to carry out special missions on and under water, there is the 73rd Marine Special Operations Center. However, since 2014, this unit has been operating mainly on land, which negatively affects its effectiveness. Now the Center is in a difficult position and may cease to exist in the near future.

Soviet heritage


Like many other formations of the Ukrainian army, the 73rd MCSPO has Soviet roots. Back in 1953, the 6th reconnaissance point of the Black Sea fleet. He was equipped with combat swimmers, who were assigned the tasks of reconnaissance, sabotage and anti-sabotage work.



Later, the point was transferred to about. Pervomaisky. In 1968, it was expanded and reorganized into the 17th separate naval brigade of special intelligence of the KChF. Part received new equipment and weapons; military personnel underwent a variety of training and learned to work in different environments. The brigade carried a permanent service and performed a number of specific tasks.

In 1992, during the division of the Soviet Black Sea Fleet, the 17th brigade became part of the Ukrainian naval forces, and a significant part of the personnel swore allegiance to the new independent state. Despite the division of the fleet and all the transformations, the brigade retained its functions. However, economic problems affected the learning process and, as a result, the overall combat capability.

Training events were held much less frequently than in Soviet times. At the same time, the personnel of the 17th brigade were still involved in various real events. Combat swimmers escorted important cargo, neutralized found ammunition, participated in the aftermath of accidents, etc.


Demonstration events of the 73rd center. Photo VK / "War, story, politics"
In 2003, the brigade was reorganized into the 73rd Naval Special Forces Center of the Armed Forces. At the same time, the composition of the unit, its tasks, etc. did not change significantly. In 2014, the Center was transferred from the Crimea to the city of Ochakov. In 2016, the 73rd MTsSpN was included in the newly formed special operations forces and renamed - the maritime center for special operations. In the future, its name and affiliation did not change.

Forces and means


The 73rd MTSSPO is designed to solve special problems on and under water. According to the guidelines, its combat swimmers must carry out reconnaissance or sabotage, mine or clear objects, and also capture various ships and coastal targets.

The Center has several main divisions. This is the 1st detachment of underwater mining, the 2nd detachment of mine clearance and breaking through barriers, as well as the 3rd reconnaissance detachment. In addition, there is a headquarters and several support units.

The 73rd center had its own small fleet. It included the Pereyaslav control ship, the Neteshyn diving vessel, as well as several boats and boats for various purposes. In addition, ultra-small Triton-2M submarines and Sirena-UM tugboats remained from the Soviet Navy. According to various sources, in recent years, limited purchases of other materiel have been carried out.

Combat swimmers are armed with various systems, mostly of the old design. These are standard pistols, machine guns and machine guns for post-Soviet armies. There are also APS submachine guns and SPP-1 pistols. For reconnaissance and sabotage, it was planned to use a variety of special equipment of old and new types.


Special Forces on exercises. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

Punitive Special Forces


In 2014, starting the "anti-terrorist operation", the new Ukrainian command discovered a lack of trained units and formations. This problem began to be solved by involving all available formations, regardless of their tasks and characteristics. The 73rd MTsSpN, which was not preparing for full-fledged actions on land, was no exception.

In early August, 30 servicemen of the Center, as part of a consolidated detachment, went to the area of ​​the city of Ilovaisk. His main task for the following years was the conduct of military intelligence. In this capacity, the detachment had to supplement its own units of the ground forces, which could not cope with all the work assigned.

However, quickly enough, combat swimmers found new tasks. From the end of August, they participated in the assault on settlements and in other similar operations. At the same time, the naval special forces performed the functions of infantry, which did not correspond to the characteristics and level of its training. Naturally, this led to insufficient effectiveness and loss of personnel.

Soon, a detachment of the 73rd center, along with other Ukrainian formations, ended up in the Ilovaisk pocket. Most of it managed to fight out of the encirclement, but there were significant losses in the wounded, killed and captured. After the boiler, the combined detachment received reinforcements and continued to work in the Donbass.

In 2015, after another loss and replenishment, a detachment of the 73rd MTsSpN was transferred to the Mariupol direction. Despite this, the specifics of combat work has not changed. The detachment carried out reconnaissance or participated in punitive measures.


The captured commander of the sabotage group. Frame from video from Rusvesna.su

The situation changed only in 2016, after the creation of the MTR. The reorganized 73rd MTSSPO began to be entrusted with carrying out sabotage in the rear of the republics of Donbass. However, the unrecognized states turned out to be ready for this, and not all actions were successful and not always without losses on the Ukrainian side.

Mariupol boiler


Currently, the MTR of Ukraine, incl. 73rd Maritime Center, unsuccessfully trying to resist the process of demilitarization. Unfortunately, the main part of the information about the work of combat swimmers is still unknown, but certain details are gradually being clarified, and a more complete picture is emerging.

According to known data, several units from the 73rd MCSPO were sent to Mariupol to organize defense and conduct various "special actions". Thus, the WarGonzo project reports from the scene that it was the 73rd center that participated in organizing and setting up firing points in the city. Such objects were located near residential buildings and civilian objects - in order to make it difficult to return fire.

However, this tactic did not help. Ukrainian troops and formations are suffering losses, and Mariupol is gradually coming under the control of Russian troops. So, on March 13, it became known that one of our special forces destroyed a Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group near the city. One of the officers of the 73rd MCSPO was taken prisoner, and a video of his interrogation was published.

It will not be possible to hold Mariupol, and Ukrainian military personnel and nationalists are fleeing. So, the chief of staff of the detachment of the 73rd center the other day tried to leave along the humanitarian corridor under the guise of a civilian. He was detained, and now the captured officer is also testifying.


Chief of Staff, caught at the exit from Mariupol. Frame from video Telegram / Voenkor Kitten Z

Apparently, these are far from the first and not the last losses of the 73rd MCSPO. Scouts and saboteurs of the Center who resist will be destroyed. Surrendered military personnel will receive everything due. At the same time, resistance no longer makes sense and will only lead to new losses. Russian troops are successfully moving forward, and even special forces cannot offer them decent resistance.

Natural result


It is easy to see that the involvement of special forces did not allow Ukraine to turn the tide of the war in Donbass or effectively resist the Russian offensive. The 73rd Naval Special Operations Center was no exception. Moreover, according to the results of the battles, his personnel have to throw weapon and flee disguised as civilians.

The reasons for this state of affairs and the prerequisites for its formation are generally clear. Over the past decades, the army of independent Ukraine has faced specific problems that are reflected in the special forces. Thus, the lack of funding and organizational difficulties did not allow to carry out all the necessary training activities and maintain the required level of training. Since 2014, it was possible to receive assistance from foreign states, but it could not fundamentally change the situation.

The general degradation of the army has led to the fact that since 2014, combat swimmers trained to operate on the water were forced to work on land. Moreover, often the special forces solved the tasks of conventional infantry. This did not allow the use of special skills and abilities of the fighters, and also led to new problems and unjustified risks. As a result, the combat effectiveness of the units of the Center fell.

Now the question of the complete loss of combat capabilities and the cessation of resistance becomes relevant. As part of the current demilitarization of the 73rd MTSSPO and the SSO of Ukraine, they have already suffered heavy losses, and their prospects are obvious. In the foreseeable future, they will cease to exist - first in fact, and then legally. There is simply no chance or opportunity to prevent this.
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  1. +7
    26 March 2022 03: 47
    Natural result

    ***
    MARINE BATTLE UNDER THE BRIDGE

    (November 2018)

    ---

    Twenty Pairs of Lace Briefs

    And one battle toilet

    Lost in an unequal battle

    Ukrainian maritime special forces ...

    ©
    ***
    1. +16
      26 March 2022 07: 47
      We're just fighting among ourselves. Of course, the Ukronats do not belong to their own. Biden is ecstatic.
      1. +16
        26 March 2022 10: 21
        Quote: bandabas
        We're just fighting among ourselves. Of course, the Ukronats do not belong to their own. Biden is ecstatic.

        You explain this to the non-brothers. For us, this is pain, longing and .... a necessity.
        1. -2
          26 March 2022 11: 39
          Who knows will understand.
          1. +8
            27 March 2022 08: 05
            I know that Ukrainian Russians, among other things, denied Russianness, you don’t even have to look far for examples, Danilov, chairman of the National Security and Defense Council, who is he by nationality then?
        2. -8
          27 March 2022 19: 10
          You are not writing from the front line now. Therefore, do not equate yourself with those who are now there and do not write "us".
      2. +7
        26 March 2022 16: 09
        Biden is ecstatic.


        It didn't take long for him to get excited. We will win anyway and will sculpt from what was once Nazi Ukraine what we need, and not Biden or Johnson.
        Difficult, long, but blind.
      3. +6
        27 March 2022 08: 08
        It is sad when the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, formed on the basis of the glorious combat units of the SV, Air Force or Navy of the USSR, at the behest of the criminal authorities, turn into Nazi punitive Sonderkommandos, whose name is Oblivion ..
      4. +7
        27 March 2022 08: 20
        we fight among ourselves.

        We do not fight between our own, but destroy the Banderlog=Nazis=fascists, free the Russian land from the crap that has inflicted on it for 30 years.
        1. -12
          27 March 2022 19: 11
          This is an internationally recognized territory of Ukraine. And don't forget that official negotiations will continue tomorrow. There is no need to transparently hint at your attitude towards our delegation.
          1. 0
            31 March 2022 13: 00
            Ukraine does not have internationally recognized borders! Do not lie! The border agreement with Russia has not yet been fully formalized - there was no demarcation of the border. Before all this, Russia and Ukraine simply used the borders that they inherited from the USSR - but they cannot be called internationally recognized. The West supports the so-called territorial integrity of Ukraine only politically - since 2014, not a single lawsuit has been received from Ukraine because they understand that they will lose. Lawsuits were only on private property in Crimea
    2. 0
      26 May 2022 11: 56
      Twenty Pairs of Lace Briefs

      And one battle toilet

      Lost in an unequal battle

      Ukrainian maritime special forces ...

      The mercenaries also distinguished themselves
      What kind of panties are there
      Lost calloreceptors
      There are two liters in each courage ...
  2. +15
    26 March 2022 03: 52
    In 2014, starting the "anti-terrorist operation", the new Ukrainian command discovered a lack of trained units and formations. This problem began to be solved by involving all available formations, regardless of their tasks and characteristics. The 73rd MTsSpN, which was not preparing for full-fledged actions on land, was no exception.

    It's so easy and simple, they took service people tied with blood
    1. +13
      26 March 2022 05: 59
      Quote: YOUR
      It's so easy and simple, they took service people tied with blood
      ...and they turned into war criminals.
  3. +1
    26 March 2022 04: 10
    It is strange that de-works on the part of the APU - - but on the hands of the APU and my outskirts? I have already asked the question, are they cherished for conversations with Medina?
  4. +8
    26 March 2022 04: 13
    The captured Chief of Staff should be asked very well which of his former subordinates organized and carried out the sabotage that led to the flooding of our BDK, very well. And then find and punish...
    1. 0
      26 March 2022 06: 25
      "To the flooding of our BDK", but did some ship drown?
      The husband said that the Saratov was hit by a shell and aground. Where did he find out? Didn't see it on the news
      1. 0
        26 March 2022 06: 30
        Quote from lisikat2
        To the flooding of our BDK", but did some ship drown?

        It will no longer be restored, they will raise it up and send it to the "pins and needles". He is old, there is no point in restoring
        Quote from lisikat2
        The husband said that the Saratov was hit by a shell and aground.

        And where did that projectile come from, yes, that's for sure. Judging by the satellite images, there are no special destructions typical for shelling or the fall of part of the rocket. This is a clear sabotage
        1. 0
          26 March 2022 06: 38
          Where is this mentioned?
          1. 0
            26 March 2022 06: 44
            Quote from lisikat2
            Where is this mentioned?

            About what, about this?
            1. +1
              26 March 2022 08: 52
              About BDK Saratov
              1. +1
                26 March 2022 10: 53
                Quote from lisikat2
                About BDK Saratov

                And what do you want to hear about it?
                Large landing ship "Saratov" - a large landing ship of project 1171 (code "Tapir", according to NATO codification - Alligator). Became the first in its series, built in Kaliningrad in 1964 under serial number 010.
                The laying of the ship, which received the number BDK-010, took place on February 5, 1964 at the Yantar Baltic Shipyard in Kaliningrad. Launched on July 1, 1964. In 1966 he was included in the Black Sea Fleet of the USSR Navy under the name "Voronezh Komsomolets".
                From 1966 to 2004, he made more than 20 long-distance trips with marines on board.
                From 1991 to 1994 he was in conservation in Odessa. At the same time, it received the name "BDK-065".
                In August 2000, for 4 flights, he transported from the Gonio loading point (Batumi region) to the Utrishenok disembarkation point (Novorossiysk region) part of the weapons and equipment of the contingent of the Group of Russian Forces in the Transcaucasus.
                On August 10, 2008, as part of a grouping of ships of the Black Sea Fleet, he fought with Georgian boats in the course of forcing Georgia to peace.
                In the autumn-winter of 2012, he completed the tasks of a campaign in the Mediterranean Sea.
                In January 2013, the diesel generator broke down on the ship's way to inter-fleet exercises in the Mediterranean. The ship was repaired with the participation of PM-56 in the Syrian port of Tartus.
                In 2014, the BDK "Saratov" took part in the annexation of the Crimea to the Russian Federation, completed at least 4 trips to the Mediterranean Sea.
                The ship's commander is Captain 2nd Rank Vladimir Khramchenkov. Former commander of the KFOR "Kirovograd" of the Ukrainian Navy, in 2014 he transferred to the service of Russia
                1. +3
                  26 March 2022 13: 04
                  I meant about the death of the ship. Where did it happen and when? After all, a picture from space is a recent
                  1. +2
                    26 March 2022 15: 25
                    Quote from lisikat2
                    I meant about the death of the ship. Where did it happen and when? After all, a picture from space is a recent

                    Berdyansk. Sunk on 24 March 2022 off the pier.
                    At the time of the fire on the pier and the flames being thrown on board, the large landing ship "Caesar Kunnikov" was moored to it, the crew of which turned out to be more prepared and managed to get their ship out of the port, extinguishing the fire that had arisen on board.
                    1. 0
                      26 March 2022 17: 30
                      Thank you very much
                    2. 0
                      26 March 2022 21: 20
                      In The Reporter, something flashed about it. I used to not be very interested in the "Reporter", but now ... There was an interest
        2. +7
          27 March 2022 00: 44
          The video was how the fire started. There were no flights or shelling. It all started with a tank of fuel. Further, the cargoes on the deck of Saratov apparently took up. In principle, there are 2 options - undermining a container with a fuel charge or gouging, negligence and careless handling during unloading operations. In principle, when leaving, the fuel containers could be carefully mined so that when trying to refuel, the charge would work. In general, it's unpleasant. But "grandfather", who 10 years ago should have been put on needles, died in the war. In my opinion, such a death is more honorable for a ship.
          1. -9
            27 March 2022 19: 16
            "Granddad"?
            That is, you prefer to remain silent about living people - who were on board at that moment
            1. +1
              28 March 2022 04: 37
              Quote from sibsolo
              That is, you prefer to remain silent about living people - who were on board at that moment

              Well, we are waiting for a story from you, since others are silent
        3. +1
          27 March 2022 08: 06
          And clear skies in the video
        4. 0
          27 March 2022 08: 31
          Quote: svp67
          Judging by the satellite images, there are no special destructions typical for shelling or the fall of part of the rocket. This is a clear sabotage

          Judging by the photographs and the available information, a fuel and lubricants fire started (burning tanks are visible). Allegedly, fragments of the point U rocket hit. BDK-Saratov stands nearby. The flame spread to the ship. And what happened to Saratov, what condition is it in? I don’t know yet, I don’t want to fantasize. I think we'll fix it. The veteran will be put into operation.
          1. 0
            27 March 2022 08: 46
            Quote: 30 vis
            Allegedly hit the wreckage of the point U rocket

            That's just what ALLEGED. The roofs of the tanks are intact, they are perfectly visible. How the wreckage of the rocket was able to maneuver and bypass the superstructure and side of the ship is still a mystery.
            And all this does not explain why some BDK managed to leave, but this BDK did not
            1. +1
              27 March 2022 10: 37
              Quote: svp67
              The roofs of the tanks are intact, they are perfectly visible. How the wreckage of the rocket was able to maneuver and bypass the superstructure and side of the ship is still a mystery.
              And all this does not explain why some BDK managed to leave, but this BDK did not

              I have information from friends of the Moremans. I believe their words. Obviously, he could not get away from the fact that the displacement was greater (he was bigger, the project was different!), Because they were unloading, unloading was in progress, tweendecks were open. Beam crane worked. I don't understand why they put the ship next to these tanks? There are many places, but he was brought in here. And also the BDK of the Yamal type of project 775/II is more dexterous, more agile, more modern. And the BDK like https://ok.ru/video/247263593922 Saratov is heavier, not more agile. You should not look for the guilt of the ship's commander, where there is none.
              1. -1
                27 March 2022 10: 46
                Quote: 30 vis
                You should not look for the guilt of the ship's commander, where there is none.

                They will do it without me.
                Quote: 30 vis
                I don't understand why they put the ship next to these tanks?

                And obviously there was a previously installed "gift" in the tank
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      3. -1
        26 March 2022 21: 05
        Where did he find out? Didn't see it on the news

        There is not much on the news. And as I found out, there is a lot of information, you just need to compare facts from different sources.
    2. -4
      27 March 2022 19: 12
      Well, write to the Ministry of Defense. Why are you writing here?
  5. -1
    26 March 2022 04: 54
    combat swimmers trained to operate on the water were forced to work on land. Moreover, often the special forces solved the tasks of conventional infantry. This did not allow the use of special skills and abilities of the fighters, and also led to new problems and unjustified risks.
    Yes, shrews were made from scary toothy sharks. It happened. request it took meat, stupidly shooting, killing and dying in glass wool. request
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  7. -2
    26 March 2022 05: 12
    since 2014, combat swimmers trained to operate on the water have been forced to work on land.

    Who among them does not lay down their arms and surrender today will be forced to dive into the ground tomorrow.
    1. -2
      26 March 2022 06: 30
      Great point! good The last dive for banded swimmers, a dive into the ground.
  8. 0
    26 March 2022 05: 18
    Is this not the training center for combat swimmers that in Soviet times bore the unofficial name "Saturn"? Who knows?
    1. 0
      26 March 2022 05: 50
      https://mptaifun.ru/blog/299_j_uc_mp_vmf_saturn/2015-08-19-255
    2. 0
      26 March 2022 06: 34
      "Saturn" was at the Marines two hundred training center. And here we are talking about the sixth fleet.
      1. +2
        26 March 2022 08: 42
        Saturn is a diving school in Sevastopol, where combat swimmers were trained in light diving and heavy divers were trained. For light divers there were 3rd (for MCI) and 8th (for PDSS) companies, for marines - 4th.
    3. 0
      26 March 2022 07: 45
      The 299 training center "Saturn" trained specialists for the marines.
  9. 0
    26 March 2022 06: 34
    "Separate special-purpose marine brigade" I periodically watch on NTV: "Sea devils" detachment "Nerpa" and did not know that the "devils" had prototypes
    1. +1
      26 March 2022 07: 11
      Read the epilogue to the film. hi hi
    2. +5
      26 March 2022 08: 45
      Cinema is cinema. Combat swimmers are assigned to naval reconnaissance posts and there are groups of central subordination. Squads - no. There are groups. And the military specialty is called a reconnaissance diver or a miner diver (if memory serves correctly)
      1. +1
        26 March 2022 09: 34
        I remember two shooter divers, after demobilization in Kaliningrad, could not settle in life and began to apply their knowledge to robbery. Until the FSB was connected, the GRU was on the ears of the entire Kaliningrad region. And that's just two!
        It was well described in the press, very interesting to read.
        1. +1
          26 March 2022 13: 18
          There is a D/F about it, I saw it on TV
        2. +1
          26 March 2022 15: 02
          Neither the FSB nor the GRU were involved in that case. Fleet counterintelligence worked. They let them out, by the way, through the midshipman of one of the boxes, and took them. It was in Baltiysk.
    3. -1
      26 March 2022 09: 37
      "Sea Devils" is cinema and Germans. In real life, it's much tougher.
      1. 0
        26 March 2022 13: 15
        Even I understand that there is a lot of exaggeration. Yesterday at work I heard: the scriptwriters used various real facts from special operations
  10. +2
    26 March 2022 06: 55
    To begin with, combat swimmers belong to the PDSS, reconnaissance divers serve in the 73rd center.
    1. -2
      26 March 2022 07: 31
      "Ukrainian reconnaissance divers" It doesn't fit. It doesn't sound.
      It's like "Moldovan hockey"))
      1. 0
        26 March 2022 07: 33
        And Ukrainian combat swimmers sound?!
    2. 0
      26 March 2022 15: 04
      "Swimmers" here and there, as well as reconnaissance divers and miner divers
  11. -1
    26 March 2022 07: 10
    He will end his existence in principle and all the sisters will receive an earring or ears, as it will fall out to someone.
  12. 0
    26 March 2022 07: 23
    These combat swimmers, like representatives of the Airborne Forces of Ukraine, managed to fight in the first Chechen war, on the side of the bandits Dudayev and Maskhadov. Moreover, they were sent there from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine to provide assistance. They wore 2 chevrons, their own ,,, fork ,,, and the head of a wolf.
  13. +2
    26 March 2022 07: 52
    The entire top of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including the commanders of units and divisions, are war criminals. They are not subject to the exchange of prisoners, for only a military tribunal should decide their fate. Hiding behind the backs of civilians (your own citizens) is a war crime. There is no justification for such behavior by military personnel.
  14. 0
    26 March 2022 11: 20
    They have a funny logo. Reminds me of the movie Brother. winked "Take the burden on your own, so as not to fall when walking." (C)
  15. +3
    26 March 2022 11: 44
    Yes, there are a lot of interesting things with them. After they did not comply with Turchinov's order in Crimea to "open fire on civilians as necessary," they were driven under the nail and kicked out into the Donbass with a makhra. And just in the line, and not as special forces. Ilovaisk, Saur-mogila ... 2 commanders of the 73rd center lay down there, and Zinchenko, who was killed at Saur-grave, was recorded as dead in the rear, in Zaporozhye (he choked on a cherry bone, go), his widow does not even receive a pension, which is why the special forces finally freaked out and ran away from the center. That's where they recruited instead of bison - "ideologically savvy", in translation - Svidomo, raguli, and they, thank God, are not the same wolves that were in 2014
  16. -1
    26 March 2022 14: 40
    An interesting emblem, deeply symbolic. The seahorse is a genus of small marine ray-finned fish of the needle family of the needle-shaped order. The genus includes from 54 to 57 species. The unusual shape of the skate's body resembles a chess piece of a horse. Disgustingly swimmers, usually sticking out in coastal seaweed. Just for the Sumerian underwater special forces.
    1. +2
      26 March 2022 14: 51
      Et you in vain, even recognized in this case SBS and Italians considered this center even when they were Ukrainian - one of the three best underwater sabotage units in the world. Under the USSR, it was generally a walking dog, a well-known case with the liquidation of the most famous British saboteur in a British port, who decided to give a shit there, when a Soviet cruiser was visiting there, it seems. Well, he surfaced with a sawed off head a week later - their job. It’s good that the ukra killed them herself - these could famously drink blood for us
      1. +2
        26 March 2022 15: 37
        Under the USSR, it was generally a walking dog, a well-known case with the liquidation of the most famous British saboteur in a British port,
        Your episode refers to 1956, the Baltics worked there, not the Black Sea. Lionel Krebbs, indeed, did not have a head for some reason. About 5 years ago, an interview was shown on TV with one grandfather, who was awarded the Order of the Red Star, so he told how he first worked with a knife (with one hand on the hydrik on himself, with the other - a wide cut from left to right in the throat) .. Then he unhooked the mine and drowned. It's amazing that Lionel worked alone, they usually work as a couple. However, ours, too, by chance, worked alone, in violation of all governing documents. And then they turned the screws of the cruiser. After Khrushch Kukuruzny came to power and the reduction of the army, aviation and navy, these groups of ours were also disbanded. They began to be restored only under Brezhnev, when in Vietnam the Americans with trained dolphins prevented a number of sabotage on their ships. I don’t know who did sabotage on American boats there, maybe the North Koreans, we didn’t have such groups then. Then the North Koreans helped the North Vietnam, and the South - the South. After that, not only underwater special forces groups were restored in our country, but also training centers for marine animals were made at each theater of operations (in particular, bottlenose dolphins were trained in the Cossack Bay of Sevastopol), the rest of the fleets have the same thing, where seals, where dolphins. With the collapse of the USSR, everything stopped. The current marine Sumerians have nothing in common with those combat swimmers.
        1. 0
          26 March 2022 15: 46
          Mabut. I just heard from them and back in the USSR, they attributed to themselves. But in any case, until the 14th year, it was not at all a nazibat from a pine forest. so the meaning does not change
          1. -1
            26 March 2022 16: 02
            Well, you can attribute any feat to yourself. The health requirements in such a center are very high, there are practically no people older than 40 who actually work under water. So, to cling to the feat of your grandfathers at the beginning of the zero or tenths is, of course, good, only the Sumerians have nothing to do with this at all.
            1. +1
              26 March 2022 16: 26
              Quote: Cowbra
              I heard from them and in USSR,
              wink
              Although even then they were not talking about themselves, but about those who had previously served. But still it was not dill. Yes, and they didn’t - I wrote above why they were driven into the infantry.
        2. -1
          27 March 2022 08: 13
          And then the unfortunate center in Kazachya had to survive by entertaining the public, he himself drove groups there, in addition to bottlenose dolphins there was also a sea lion named Fluff, and then either something got better, or there were rumors that dolphins were fighting. Well, in general, they stopped letting them in.
          1. 0
            27 March 2022 09: 09
            At the beginning of the 10s, I read about the misadventures of the Center on the Sevastopol website Forpost - it changed owners, in general, it was a complete mess. Some remnants now perform in the Sevastopol Dolphinarium.
  17. 0
    April 1 2022 10: 28
    It seems that they are not fools, but they didn’t figure out that their enemy is not Russia, but the Anglo-Saxons ... In short, they, apparently, are not all right with their brains ...
  18. 0
    April 2 2022 12: 15
    Interesting chief of staff of combat swimmers) The muscles of his shoulders are in a constantly compressed position. This position is typical for people who have never done a proper warm-up, because this position of the muscles is unnatural, and a minimally trained person without specific exercises (lifting massive round stones, for example) turns his shoulders. The clavicles move from a compressed position to a position parallel to the ground.
    That is, this man commanded swimmers, but he himself was never a fighter. What a familiar HR policy...
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    April 3 2022 11: 26
    Quote: svp67
    This is a clear sabotage

    And the version of negligence is not considered, has it already been worked out?
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    7 May 2022 00: 09
    Naval special forces are the elite of the army. And these are punishers. However, the army is a cross section of society. What country is such an elite.
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    29 May 2022 16: 52
    It is a pity that Ukraine sent such special forces to kill its own civilians. The NWO is forced to liquidate such special forces.

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