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The other side of the special operation. What to do with prisoners

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I recently wrote about the difficulties that await us during the denationalization of Ukraine. This material is in some way connected thematically with the previous article. Although he deals more with the problem that arose immediately after the start of the special operation of the Russian army and the offensive of the People's Militias of the republics. This is the problem of prisoners.


Those same prisoners, which every day becomes more and more. And who should be punished or acquitted and sent home. The problem is very complex and requires very serious work of certain structures. A cavalry charge will not solve this problem.

How, for example, to evaluate the actions of a soldier or officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who heroically defended his own positions to the last bullet, and then surrendered. He surrendered simply because he could no longer follow orders and hold the line. Is he a criminal or an honest soldier, true to his oath? Is he a criminal or not?

Or how to evaluate the actions of that Mariupol fashion model who played the role of a wounded pregnant woman after the explosion of the maternity hospital? She didn’t kill anyone, she was simply zombified by Nazi propaganda, but after publications in the West, including her art, supplies to Ukraine increased weapons and only a few arrived, but mercenaries.

Theoretically, the problem can be solved in the same way as once Alexander the Great, according to legend, solved the problem of the Gordian knot. According to the principle of a well-known saying - "you cannot wash a black dog white". Will it just be right? It seems to me that the authorities of the DPR and LPR are doing the right thing (according to rumors from sources who know the situation), which, after checking, release prisoners from the liberated regions home on receipt.

Maybe among the hundreds of “washed” whites, one “black” will come across, but it's worth it. The villages and towns will soon need working hands, smart heads, knowledgeable leaders. And it will be, among others, former captured soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Others simply do not exist. And it won't. Republics and Ukraine will have to be restored ...

Why do the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard remain combat-ready even in the conditions of encirclement?


It must be admitted that Ukrainians have learned a lot in recent years. The example of the Crimea has shown that the system of recruitment of troops that existed in Ukraine before the Russian spring in Crimea is flawed. Units and subunits formed according to the territorial principle are ineffective in real combat conditions.

Only those territorial divisions will fight well, in which, in addition to the generally accepted principles of formation, national traditions, faith, ideologies, etc. are used. In short, some additional components that bind soldiers and officers into a single family, into a single military team.

I repeat, the Ukrainian generals perfectly learned the lesson of the Crimea, when most of the military and special services remained to live and serve where they were called from. Soldiers and officers simply refused to shoot at their relatives, friends, acquaintances. They refused to destroy their own homes, their own lives.

At the same time, units of punishers, united by a single ideology, acted quite effectively. Detachments created from criminals also showed their effectiveness. Alas, to a large extent just as punishers. And the detachments of foreign nationalists? All these Georgian, Chechen and other "national battalions" are still active today.

Over the past few years, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been formed according to a mixed principle. The bulk of the Russian-speaking regions, simply because the mentality of "Russian Ukrainians" is more suitable for war than the mentality of the villagers from western Ukraine, but officers from the western regions, as well as military chaplains of the Uniate Church, serve in the units without fail, and in the trenches As you know, there are no atheists.

In short, in any unit there is a backbone that is engaged precisely in the ideological indoctrination of personnel. It is these people who today perform the functions of the Ukrainian version of the special officers in the units. They "strengthen the morale" of the soldiers, up to the execution of deserters and those trying to go over to the side of the enemy.

The nationalists from the National Guard are even more cynical. Have you ever wondered why the same Azov regiment in Mariupol remains combat-ready for quite a long time? "Casket", as always, "just opens". "Azov" is constantly replenished at the expense of local youth.

This is done quite simply. Gather youth and offer to become heroes. Those who do not agree are immediately declared separatists, and according to the laws of war... The rest of the "volunteers" are sent to the line of contact and fight in the forefront.

It is clear that these young men think that they are the most cunning of all and desert in the very first battle, but... The reality is that they have only two ways after the first battle. Either to the grave, or you become the same punisher as the rest. You are a member of the flock ... True, in the vast majority of cases, given the military training of freshly minted fighters, temporary.

The number of prisoners will increase


Sometimes it is strange to read seemingly analytical materials in which the issue of increasing the number of prisoners is considered at the high school level. We win, and therefore there are more prisoners. Alas, of course, military victories do increase the number of prisoners and deserters in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard, but they are not a decisive factor.

Prisoners can be quite clearly divided into categories, by reasons for surrender, by places of conscription, and so on. This is necessary to understand the reasons for the surrender and further actions in relation to the surrendered.

So, the first category is those who went to serve out of hopelessness, due to the lack of a decent job, a normal salary. These are those who do not really pose a danger and can be released on parole home.

For example, I will tell you a very simple and understandable history one soldier of the 53rd brigade. The name of the soldier is Alexander (for obvious reasons, I will not name the names of the soldiers and officers), he was drafted from Severodonetsk, surrendered in Novoignatovka as part of a group of contract soldiers like him.

“First, an urgent summons came. I went on an urgent basis, then they offered to transfer to the 53rd brigade on a contract. They promised that I would sit on the road traffic in Severodonetsk, that is, at home, come just like to work ... I took the course of a young fighter, then loaded into a train and brought here.

There are dozens, if not hundreds, of such stories. It is clear that for Alexander, service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine was just a way to earn money for the family. No ideological or patriotic reasons underlay his decision. He was not going to fight, and therefore, at the first opportunity, he deserted and surrendered.

Another category is those who escaped from the boilers and are trying to get through to their own. Usually these are soldiers called up from other areas who are trying to get to their native places. Units actually abandoned by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and fighting offline. Without communication with the command, without supplies, without equipment and ammunition.

An example is the 58th Motorized Brigade. The network today is full of videos about how the soldiers of this separate “nominal” brigade evaluate their commanders, personally Zelensky and all the others who drove them to this war. It is one thing to sit in prepared positions, another thing to march under constant enemy fire.

The captured fighters surrendered after the brigade suffered heavy losses. It was simply pointless to continue resistance. Here is what one of the surrendered said (I quote from a video from the network):

“... We had two tank. One of which did not start, and the other did not shoot. But they were immediately knocked out. Then we decided to give up…”

A similar situation happened with a platoon of marines on the outskirts of Mariupol. I managed to listen to the marines radio communications after two failures of the British NLAW complexes. Thank you friends. I think the British military hiccuped for quite some time. But the platoon surrendered!

The next category is fighters who give up simply because they do not want to fight for an incomprehensible power, for a strange president, for the interests of some other states. Usually these are those who are far from the Donbass. Most often, somewhere near Kiev or in the areas of operation of the V group.

So, the capital's elite 14th Motorized Brigade. A company of this brigade, led by Major Ivan S., entered the area of ​​the Russian checkpoint (Nikolaevka region). The company in full force surrendered to the Russian troops. Ivan S. explained his act by his unwillingness to fight "for Zelensky's fascist regime." Other than that, he just wanted to save the lives of the conscript soldiers.

Well, the last category. These are professional military men who understood the futility of resistance in the current situation. Again an example from the same 14th Motorized Brigade.

Approximately in the same area, he surrendered to the ZKP brigade. 61 one person, most of which are senior officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Let me remind you that this is an elite metropolitan brigade, with selected, repeatedly tested personnel. These officers understood perfectly well what fate the global West had in store for them.

As you can see, every soldier or officer who surrenders has his own story. Your motives. Your difficult and dangerous path of enlightenment.

What's next?


The operation continues. If everything is more or less clear on the territory of the LPR and DPR, then where the Russian Armed Forces operate, problems are just beginning. And these problems are not related to the actions of the military. There are no complaints about the soldiers and officers. Only pride for our heroes.

I have already written about how quickly the views of Ukrainians on the surrounding reality are changing. Yesterday, ardent patriots and opponents of Russia have suddenly become ardent opponents of the Kiev regime and supporters of Moscow today. Today, those who are in captivity talk about personal reasons why they could not fight the authorities.

Indeed, it is easy to talk about struggle, about heroism, being far from the war. It's easy to talk about fighting the regime when it doesn't threaten you personally. The years of propaganda, the years of a massive attack on the brains of Ukrainians cannot be canceled, cannot be ignored. So I'll refrain from judging. I will consider the impact of propaganda as a disease.

Those soldiers and officers who stopped fighting are still on their way to recovery. They mature slowly and gradually. By the way, just like those who have already ended up in the liberated territories. It would seem a simple, well-known TV. How many new people learn about life in Donetsk or Luhansk. How many new things they learn about Crimea, about Russia.

Probably, those who are now out of the war, those who have surrendered, who are already at home or are waiting for the end of the operation to go home, will have to become the basis of a new Ukraine. Naturally, in the regions where they come from. Scorched by war have a special character. A different view of the world. It is these people who will be needed at a time when it will be necessary to tear the veins, restoring the country.

PS


Another issue that needs to be addressed urgently.

The special operation of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine is developing according to plan. But every day it becomes clear that without the help of the Russian army, even for a limited period, the Ukrainians will not be able to eliminate the fascist regime. Alas, but too deeply this ideology has taken root in society. For too long we have looked through our fingers at how the Ukrainians have been reformatted.

In what form it is necessary to ensure the presence of Russia in Ukraine, it does not matter. Whether these will be temporary garrisons in cities, military-civilian commandant's offices or military bases is not for us to decide. This is the business of the country's top leadership and the Armed Forces. But it must be remembered that in power, in managing something, there is no vacuum. Any void is quickly filled with something.

There are already examples of how the former authorities are being restored in the liberated territories. A kind of light-fascist version of power ... Metastases remain, and they must be urgently removed in an operative way. It's worth thinking about.
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  1. Chervony Biker
    Chervony Biker 27 March 2022 05: 04
    +74
    The topic in the article is raised archival! But somehow everything is herbivorous with you ....
    These went to kill because they promised money. ..
    And others went to kill, because they like it. And again they pay.
    Still others went because they pay like in Poland at a construction site, but all sorts of benefits and respect for the "hero".
    And you are offering all this FROM THE P U S K A T ?! on receipt?
    Since we are now discussing only prisoners of war, and not politicians, journalists, etc. For whom the tribunal should already begin to work. That...
    All those who ended up in the Armed Forces of Ukraine under a contract, after 14 years, are CRIMINALS with varying degrees of guilt. A person who, for a monetary reward, took upon himself the obligation to kill his fellow citizens, should be released in your opinion?
    All other circumstances can only be aggravating. Since the desire to earn will be added - the Nazi ideology, the lust for power and impunity. Such people should never hold any leading, administrative positions in the future Ukraine/Little Russia. Maybe even their children and next of kin. About "apple and apple tree", always relevant. Considering how much is destroyed now and plundered before - there will be work for these "warriors of light". Downgrading in electoral rights goes without saying. Because they made their "choice".
    Mitigation of punishment is possible only with active cooperation in solving the crimes of the "brothers", the caught "hero"
    DIRECTIVES \ conscripts. If he did not have time to become a punisher-killer in the form of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then let him roll home to his mother and father. This is usually a category of guys who could not get away from the army and had no money to pay off. But they must be under control.
    Any involvement in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other punitive structures should be a "brand" for life. No one was forcibly driven there.
    Certainly, benefits should be REMOVED for all "warriors of light". Furthermore ! As all citizens of Ukraine paid a military tax for the maintenance of this caudle. So, from any of their income, some pennies should be kept for at least a dozen years. To remember.
    The search for war criminals must go on indefinitely.
    In some cases, confiscation of property should be practiced. In the initial period of the anti-terrorist operation, the cases of "recovery" of property and looting by the Armed Forces of Ukraine were massive. I'll stop there for now ... Just "understanding and forgiving" will lead to the need for a Special Operation in a few years.
    1. Asad
      Asad 27 March 2022 05: 20
      +5
      A couple of questions, maybe? General mobilization was forcibly driven or not? A disabled person of the first group, a participant in the ATO, deserves a pension or not? After some time, a different life will begin in Ukraine, and it is necessary that the people who are not guilty of crimes do not have the threat of reprisals hanging over their heads.
      1. Carat
        Carat 27 March 2022 07: 40
        +45
        One thing is clear: the prisoners are not to be released until the end of the operation. There is too much chance that they will be mobilized again. Create a filtration camp, where to find out who he actually served, the presence of Nazi views, crimes during his service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, etc.. Then everyone will be passed through the court according to the evidence collected. And according to the decision of the court, whom to justify, who to restore bridges, who to the zone, to whom the highest measure of social protection. Some of the obvious cooks, clerks, nurses and the like should be exchanged for our prisoners even before the trial.
        1. dorz
          dorz 27 March 2022 08: 58
          +27
          Just now I saw on a cart how Russian prisoners of war were shot through the legs.

          What to do with the prisoners - the same as after the Great Patriotic War they did with the Nazis - they sent them to building a bright communist future.
          1. NIKN
            NIKN 27 March 2022 13: 10
            +11
            Quote: dorz
            What to do with the prisoners - the same as after the Great Patriotic War they did with the Nazis - they were sent to the construction sites of a bright communist future.

            Exactly. The question is what to do with the prisoners? has long been discussed and enshrined in law, to come up with something else in the format of public opinion I consider it not necessary. And here are the variations:
            There are dozens, if not hundreds, of such stories. It is clear that for Alexander, service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine was just a way to earn money for the family.
            Are alas aggravating circumstances, the justification for mercenarism (lack of money) does not exist. Time for money, means already morally the mercenary. Deceived? What are you talking about, and he killed (and he killed unambiguously, without even shooting, we will consider bringing cartridges or sharpening and serving an ax to the executioner) deceived, but you are our poor, 15 years of the new BAM! Any activity that led to damage (and in this case, an increase in the losses of our aircraft), and in the army all activities (even if you are a cook) are initially aimed at this, are punishable.
            1. Himalayan
              Himalayan 27 March 2022 13: 43
              -3
              Armed Forces of Ukraine executed Russian servicemen

              military correspondents, correspondents gave interviews about this. Execution for show. A shattered thigh at point-blank range is a guaranteed death within a few hours. No one there will have time to operate on them and make up for blood loss. A tourniquet is only a delay in death from shock
              1. albert
                albert 27 March 2022 19: 51
                +9
                Quote: Himalayan
                Armed Forces of Ukraine executed Russian servicemen

                Deal with the enemy as he treats you. So the ancients said. And this is always true.
          2. ananias mudishev
            ananias mudishev 27 March 2022 17: 03
            +2
            But what about civilians and those who supported and collected money and things for the war? My wife is from Volyn, I was there the only time in 2004 and was not there again, because I realized that only Bandera live there. They have hatred for Muscovites in their blood and genetics. How to be with them? You can't re-educate these
            1. Sadam
              Sadam 27 March 2022 18: 17
              -11
              And what about the Russian prisoners of war whose 560 official list was handed over ??? Slavs captured by the Slavs ... When will this dream end
              1. tlauicol
                tlauicol 27 March 2022 19: 28
                0
                What is the list, where, to whom?
                1. Sibguest
                  Sibguest 27 March 2022 19: 39
                  0
                  The list is in his head.
            2. kpd
              kpd 28 March 2022 00: 41
              +1
              But it would be nice to transfer western Ukraine to the Poles - so let them re-educate them.
              1. sgrabik
                sgrabik 28 March 2022 14: 53
                +2
                But first, in Western Ukraine, it is necessary to completely destroy all military installations and enterprises, disarm it and destroy it in the same way as these vile geeks destroyed the Donbass, and only after that let the Poles take it away.
                1. Alex Nevs
                  Alex Nevs 28 March 2022 19: 08
                  0
                  Definitely Demilitarization, and denazification. Then we'll see
                2. kot711
                  kot711 29 March 2022 12: 25
                  0
                  If you do as you write, in a year or two, there will again be national battalions and terrorist schools. Clean up to the very border, if we do not want problems in the future.
        2. zloybond
          zloybond 27 March 2022 13: 34
          +14
          1. First, there is a big problem of clearance. All captured Nazis and sappers - to the minefields. Let them go remove the mines.
          2. Secondly, destroyed bridges, hospitals, kindergartens. In accordance with the previous deployment for restoration (of course, all this is under escort).
          3. work on clearing streets, fields, repairing destroyed houses, collecting "scrap metal"
          4. Bury all trenches (manually), fortified areas and clear places of "stay".
          5. Restoration of desecrated monuments, cemeteries, mass graves.
          6. Restoration of communications
          No vacations on receipt - all that they have done is to bring it back to its original form and even better.
          1. Carat
            Carat 27 March 2022 13: 39
            +1
            Quote: zloybond
            1. First, there is a big problem of clearance. All captured Nazis and sappers - to the minefields. Let them go remove the mines.
            2. Secondly, destroyed bridges, hospitals, kindergartens. In accordance with the previous deployment for restoration (of course, all this is under escort).
            3. work on clearing streets, fields, repairing destroyed houses, collecting "scrap metal"
            4. Bury all trenches (manually), fortified areas and clear places of "stay".
            5. Restoration of desecrated monuments, cemeteries, mass graves.
            6. Restoration of communications


            Yes, the work of the guys for 15 years is enough. Especially if in cities to change all communications from Soviet times not changed.
            1. Alex Nevs
              Alex Nevs 28 March 2022 19: 09
              +1
              Yes, at least 25. Where to hurry.
      2. Silhouette
        Silhouette 27 March 2022 07: 59
        +17
        Quote: ASAD
        General mobilization was forcibly driven or not? A disabled person of the first group, a participant in the ATO, deserves a pension or not?

        No one was forcibly driven into the SS troops. Also in the national battalions. The National Bats are the SS of Ukraine. A mobilized or drafted disabled person of the first group, an ATO participant, deserves a pension as a disabled person of the first group, but not as a military man.
      3. Marine engineer
        Marine engineer 27 March 2022 08: 05
        +16
        As a disabled person of the first group - a pension on a general basis due to a disabled person of the first group. As a participant in the ATO - no privileges.
        1. Asad
          Asad 27 March 2022 08: 18
          0
          No one spoke about privileges as a participant in the ATO.
          1. Carat
            Carat 27 March 2022 09: 18
            +16
            As a participant in the ATO, he is entitled to a trial.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 27 March 2022 12: 19
              +6
              Not only the court, but also long forced labor to restore everything that was destroyed in the LDNR. For this, all prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will fit. And let all the National Battalion scumbags go to waste.
              1. Carat
                Carat 27 March 2022 12: 30
                -3
                Quote: Vadim237
                Not only the court, but also long forced labor to restore everything that was destroyed in the LDNR.


                A participant with a 1st disability group? He already has one foot in the grave.
            2. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 27 March 2022 12: 50
              +6
              The NSS has a good example, the captured Nazis. Everyone deserves it, to whom the deadline, and to whom the noose .. And then everyone is together at the construction sites of the national economy. By the way, they built it soundly.
      4. Jekakiller258
        Jekakiller258 27 March 2022 08: 38
        +9
        Undoubtedly, in general, the questions are correct! But!
        There are ready-made answers - we look at the prisoners from the Wehrmacht and understand that forgiveness must be redeemed with labor.
        1. Carat
          Carat 27 March 2022 13: 00
          +2
          Part of the top leadership of the Wehrmacht was hanged.
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 27 March 2022 17: 06
            +3
            They also hung with us. By the way, a couple of generals who marched around Moscow in August 1944 .. They found out their involvement in crimes and mass executions of Soviet citizens.
      5. Alekseev
        Alekseev 27 March 2022 08: 39
        +7
        An ATO participant - a disabled person should receive a pension only if he atones for his guilt with an active anti-Bandera position: propaganda, assistance to the anti-fascist authorities, identification of Bandera activists.
        The prisoners must restore the destroyed, like the Germans after the Second World War.
        Well, filtering, of course. War criminals at the expense, accomplices of banderlogs to hard labor, who redeemed their guilt on the account and work.
        Something like that. And letting go just like that, they say, what to take from them, they are with fat children ... there is a mockery of the memory of our dead guys.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 28 March 2022 10: 25
          +1
          An ATO participant - a disabled person should receive a pension only if he atones for his guilt with an active anti-Bandera position
          It also depends on his contribution to the ATO. The court must decide what he deserves there, a pension or the gallows. For example: does an artilleryman, who shelled Donetsk for several years, and lost an arm / leg this March in battles against the Russian Federation and the LDNR, deserve it? Looks like he's disabled, but...
          Or when will they catch the seriously wounded performer of the execution of our prisoners of war of their last video?
          The issues raised by the author in the article have long been resolved and their solution has been established. The same denazification. Everyone talks about it, but the vast majority do not understand. what this means in practice. And this is a very voluminous process for decades. Moreover, affecting not only military personnel and others caught with weapons. But also those who helped with the hryvnia, who jumped / shouted at the camera or starred in propaganda videos. It affects all sections of society.
          It is enough to read more about the denazification of Germany, which actually ended just a couple of decades ago. This process is much longer than the inflation of nationalism and the transfer of society to fascism. Because it is much easier to knock people out in bulk than to spiritually cleanse and elevate them.
      6. skeptic
        skeptic 27 March 2022 09: 45
        +3
        Quote: ASAD
        A disabled person of the first group, a participant in the ATO, deserves a pension or not?


        For this category of warriors, everyone who will not be shot, for specific atrocities, must, for the rest of their lives, pay 50% of their salary to the fund for providing for the victims of the Nazi regime in Ukraine.
        All those who took part in the ATO, (years - from the degree of participation), should be sent to restore the infrastructure of the LDNR, and after all of Ukraine.
      7. Chervony Biker
        Chervony Biker 27 March 2022 13: 11
        +4
        I will try to answer your questions. "General mobilization" if you are not aware, even now it is actually NOT carried out in Ukraine. All who want blood are rushing to the front themselves. And the rest "hold the defense" near their huts. In the weekend teams. And don't even try to convince me otherwise. I interviewed a huge number of Ukrainian acquaintances. They didn't call ANYONE. A disabled ATO officer must be supported by his relatives. He went to kill other people's fathers and husbands for them. And as I wrote, it should be deprived of all the "buns" allocated by the Ukrainian authorities. If there is no one to support him - a special institution with feasible labor and maintenance without nobility. That's it in order to start a different life in Ukraine as soon as possible - the guilty and accomplices MUST be punished. Fast and irreversible. And the people who are innocent will only be happy about it. For example, in the village there are five ATO officers and a broken road to the district center. Do you think the people will be against or condemn? If a friendly team of "heroes" will still make a mini-autobahn for fellow villagers. About the restoration of Donbass, I'm not talking about.
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 27 March 2022 07: 59
      +2
      Quote: Red Biker
      All who ended up in the Armed Forces of Ukraine under a contract, after 14 years, are CRIMINALS with varying degrees of guilt

      You forgot about everyone who worked in the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. And that's tens of thousands.

      About those who voted for Poroshenko, Zelensky. And that's hundreds of thousands.

      About those who voluntarily or involuntarily paid the "military tax". And that's millions.

      Let's all go to court.
      How easy it is to talk from the outside.

      But the author gave an example of the DPR and LPR!
      Who else but they have the full moral right to decide the fate of the prisoners!
      And it is absolutely difficult to believe that the DPR and LPR are releasing war criminals on receipt.
      1. Alekseev
        Alekseev 27 March 2022 09: 56
        +3
        There are hundreds of thousands of them, they say.
        And everyone is to blame. But in varying degrees .
        Someone is a war criminal, someone is a passive pepper hulk. Someone needs to be liquidated as a harmful reptile, and someone will get off with God's punishment, that is, the loss of loved ones, housing, and the enormous difficulties of life.
        And what about them?
        Here, Metropolitan Luke of Zaporozhye and Melitopol explained well. I recommend to read.
        To put it briefly, the fault of the hulks is indifference, pastoralism and oblivion of spiritual laws. The tribunal does not judge for this, but the punishment is inevitable ... yes
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 27 March 2022 10: 03
          0
          Quote: Alekseev
          Here, Metropolitan Luke of Zaporozhye and Melitopol explained well. I recommend to read.
          To put it briefly, the fault of the hulks is indifference, pastoralism and oblivion of spiritual laws. The tribunal does not judge for this, but the punishment is inevitable ..

          I agree.
          Already posted on this topic before.

          Quote: Flood
          innocent and unstained are hard to find

          how among the adult generation in the post-Soviet space there are no those who would not be partly to blame for the collapse of the USSR

          and the civilian population of Ukraine bears part of the blame for what happened and is happening in Ukraine

          but this is a fault of a different order, moral

          this guilt cannot be equated with the guilt of war criminals

          and from this the civilian population does not cease to be peaceful

          and I empathize with their suffering

          although I understand that redemption always comes with torment and pain
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 27 March 2022 12: 57
        -1
        You forgot about everyone who worked in the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. And that's tens of thousands.

        In 1945, they, only German, were also forgotten, especially about the Czechs, who shipped products until May 9th. They would have continued to ship, but there was nowhere. So they didn't do anything.
      3. Chervony Biker
        Chervony Biker 27 March 2022 13: 25
        +6
        Each will have their own measure of guilt. If there is one. We have now discussed, it seems, only PRISONERS OF WAR. The discussion about the disabled-ATO soldiers has escalated. If you leave a loophole, then you will miraculously find that they ALL became disabled. Or doubt? Everything is bought! And one more thing ... In Germany, after the war, even legless Wehrmacht soldiers did not receive disability pensions. A reasonable job and an old-age pension. Old women and old men in Ukraine who have worked all their lives and created this country, and not destroyed it. They receive beggarly pensions from the authorities. Do you care about ghouls-losers?
        1. Asad
          Asad 27 March 2022 14: 06
          -2
          Red Biker. I asked questions that our state will have to resolve in the near future, and these are just two of the hundreds of questions to come regarding the settlement of peaceful life in Ukraine. It is not necessary to reduce any question to the intrigues of enemies.
    3. begemot20091
      begemot20091 27 March 2022 09: 18
      0
      I am for!!!!!!!!
    4. Living7111972
      Living7111972 27 March 2022 09: 35
      0
      What a bloodthirsty you are! Filter and all those insignificantly involved, prophylactically otpiz-x, go home.
    5. Himalayan
      Himalayan 27 March 2022 13: 36
      -3
      military correspondents, correspondents gave interviews about this. Execution for show. A shattered thigh at point-blank range is a guaranteed death within a few hours. No one there will have time to operate on them and make up for blood loss. A tourniquet is only a delay in death from shock

      Armed Forces of Ukraine executed Russian servicemen
    6. bsk_una
      bsk_una 28 March 2022 06: 53
      0
      Well done! Hands and feet FOR!!! But is the government capable of this? Or again, as you say, the next generation will have to clean up again. And now we urgently need to create zones around destroyed buildings, enterprises - let them restore the destroyed ones, for this you don’t need much: bring cement, sand, a barrel with a handle, supply water, as we built our summer cottages, and forward. And so from one object to another!
    7. Vend
      Vend 28 March 2022 11: 12
      0
      After the end of the special operation, the tribunals will begin, the innocent will be released, and the guilty will be punished justly.
    8. your1970
      your1970 28 March 2022 17: 05
      0
      Quote: Red Biker
      All those who ended up in the Armed Forces of Ukraine under a contract, after 14 years, are CRIMINALS with varying degrees of guilt. A person who, for a monetary reward, took upon himself the obligation to kill his fellow citizens, should be released in your opinion?

      There was such a NNA GDR ....
      I hope you will not blame Stalin for liberalism and connivance?!
      So - the demonic cloud of Wehrmacht generals became the generals of the NPA, and the command staff of the middle and junior officer levels in the NPA - up to 2/3 consisted of the Wehrmacht ...
      Quote: Red Biker
      Any involvement in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other punitive structures should be a "brand" for life
      - and the most tsimes is that the Wehrmacht - NNA generals by the 1950s also received a medal " For the fight against fascism! awarded..
      Stalin had a subtle sense of humor
      1. Chervony Biker
        Chervony Biker 28 March 2022 23: 35
        +1
        You wrote everything about NNA correctly. After the war, which he trumpeted from bell to bell, my Grandfather took part in the "Berlin Crisis" when the Motherland called. And being a man of clear and analytical mind. He told me a lot of interesting things on this topic as well. So ... The Germans are decent people - in the sense they respect ORDER. And disciplined - if the elder ordered. Neither one nor the other, we Ukrainians are not even close to typical. Therefore, it is necessary to rely on such categories as trust, agreement and even common sense with the Ukronazis with great reservations.
        And Joseph Vissarionovich was still very liberal. What we are now disentangling, I note.
  2. Asad
    Asad 27 March 2022 05: 06
    +32
    Filtration camps, it's not worth inventing anything new. And until the end of the special operation, do not let anyone go where the territories are still occupied. Human attitude towards the prisoners, and the inevitable punishment of the Nazis.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 27 March 2022 06: 06
      -1
      Quote: ASAD
      Filtration camps, it's not worth inventing anything new. And until the end of the special operation, do not let anyone go where the territories are still occupied. Human attitude towards the prisoners, and the inevitable punishment of the Nazis.

      that's all, you need to feed, treat, and serve ... "all inclusive"? at whose expense is the banquet?
      1. Asad
        Asad 27 March 2022 06: 15
        +18
        Restoration of the entire infrastructure of Ukraine, and this is much more than the maintenance of prisoners of war, at our expense, at the expense of Russia, I don’t see anyone else. Restoration by the forces of the same prisoners of war, there is nothing to rest in filtration camps.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 27 March 2022 08: 52
        +4
        at whose expense is the banquet?
        typical liberal question. you never have money for the development of Russia. Let mos build on Sakhalin.
      3. sailor roman
        sailor roman 27 March 2022 08: 57
        +4
        All for the restoration of destroyed cities and villages, demining agricultural land, repairing equipment, working in the fields, raising livestock, and harvesting fodder. Whatever they earn, they will eat. They will not restore the destroyed paw.
      4. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 28 March 2022 19: 12
        0
        And they didn’t even think about Hard Work.
    2. Silhouette
      Silhouette 27 March 2022 08: 02
      +5
      All contract servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - for the restoration of the housing stock until its full restoration. And that's at least 5 years. They did not want to work, but they wanted to earn money - the flag is in their hands. Let them feel the difference, that not all money smells the same.
  3. svp67
    svp67 27 March 2022 05: 12
    +33
    Prisoners are required to go through all the "filters" and no matter how difficult it is, they must be kept as much as possible with us. Why, I'll explain. As soon as they enter the territory controlled by the current authorities, they will immediately be put on trial to clarify their guilt... After which they will be sent to the front again, but with an existing sentence, in the form of a stimulating factor. So the authorities of Ukraine have already acted in 2014 and 2015, nothing prevents them from acting like this now. But the next time it will be problematic for them to surrender, since on the one hand they signed an agreement that they would not fight, and on the other hand, they will already be punished for repeating such an act. Further, until a reliable military-civilian local government is established in a given territory, these released prisoners can become an excellent replenishment for any "terrodefense" detachments, especially since they have combat experience. And yet, some of them, by the verdict of the court, can be involved in public works to restore what would have been destroyed in the liberated and held territories.
    1. Silhouette
      Silhouette 27 March 2022 08: 05
      +7
      All captured national battalions captured by the militia of the DPR and Lugansk will be judged by the laws of these republics. And they have the death penalty. The rest - to restore the zhtly fund until it is fully restored.
      1. megavolt823
        megavolt823 27 March 2022 08: 47
        +3
        1) This is an exchange. 2) Penal battalions. For those who are ready to earn the right to life. 3) Do you remember the POWs? The Wehrmacht destroyed - the Wehrmacht builds. 4) For those who are especially restless, shovel in the forehead. Usho
  4. Bradley
    Bradley 27 March 2022 05: 17
    -6
    I have already written about how quickly the views of Ukrainians on the surrounding reality are changing. Yesterday, ardent patriots and opponents of Russia have suddenly become ardent opponents of the Kiev regime and supporters of Moscow today. Today, those who are in captivity talk about personal reasons why they could not fight the authorities.

    Well, when he was captured, it is always like that. An angel was an angel, he didn’t even hold a machine gun, let alone shoot. And in general - there was a monstrous mistake.
    What else can a prisoner say?
    Prisoners of any country are like that, nothing depends on nationality.

    And for prisoners, either build and maintain camps, or at an expense.
    This should have been thought about before the start of the operation.
    1. Asad
      Asad 27 March 2022 05: 27
      +12
      In expense? Who will give up then?
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 27 March 2022 05: 31
        -12
        In expense? Who will give up then?

        Those who choose to give up.
        1. Asad
          Asad 27 March 2022 05: 41
          +5
          So in your opinion everyone is at an expense?
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 27 March 2022 10: 19
          +1
          Quote: Bradley
          In expense? Who will give up then?

          Those who choose to give up.

          And our prisoners, too, at the expense?
    2. restless
      restless 27 March 2022 06: 32
      +1
      To work on the restoration of the destroyed, and after a subscription to the firing squad and let him live ..
  5. faiver
    faiver 27 March 2022 05: 42
    +15
    Filtration and only filtration, it is impossible to release anyone under any receipts, otherwise among the prisoners all of a sudden you can’t spit just “cooks” and “carriers” ...
  6. host
    host 27 March 2022 05: 43
    +9
    Initially, an exchange for our military + fighters of the NM LDNR, civilians from SBU prisons convicted under articles of aiding, state treason and similar articles. Further - to judge, by the totality of the deed - either to the hut with a ban on the entry of the Russian Federation and the LDNR, or to the prisons of the republics, to the zones in the Russian Federation. Committed military crimes against the Russian army term - indefinitely ( ∞ ).
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 27 March 2022 05: 57
      +4
      Quote from host
      to zones in the Russian Federation.

      Yes, what for they are needed, in the zones, feed them more. About 5 years ago, the expenses for each convict were, EMNIP, 29 thousand per month. Let them work hard at the construction sites of the national economy of Donbass for a couple of packs of doshirak a day.
      1. host
        host 27 March 2022 06: 26
        +2
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Let them work hard at the construction sites of the national economy of Donbass for a couple of packs of doshirak a day.

        Vlad hi there were many types of punishments in the union, including "chemistry", apparently you meant something similar, I don’t argue - construction, a pit, but at least let them clean the bed of the Crimean Canal by hand.
      2. vitvit123
        vitvit123 27 March 2022 06: 28
        -1
        Wrong spelled again!
        --Russia. Russian prisoners cost the budget 4 rubles a month, or 800 rubles a day for one prisoner. This amount covers the cost of maintenance, food, medical care, clothing and footwear. True, prisoners in some prisons grow vegetables, grains and fruits themselves, sew shoes and clothes, and do other work for the benefit of the institution (sew medical masks or gloves), so they manage to save on part of the costs.
        Now these expenses have increased to 200 rubles a day, about 6000 rubles a month ..
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 27 March 2022 10: 04
          +3
          You consider the cost of inmates and forget about the cost of the FPS itself.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 27 March 2022 10: 40
            -1
            I took into account this answer of yours and read your comment several times .. there you indicated that for each convict, and not for the FPS! You again twist the facts to play on emotions! As always, you are provocative!
            I’ll even say more in our other departments there are no SCs, but there are expenses.
          2. vitvit123
            vitvit123 27 March 2022 10: 54
            0
            You wrote the cost of zk !! You did not write about the content of the fsin !! These are different things! I don’t forget, I just carefully read what you give out, because I have repeatedly caught you on lies and provocations! Therefore, I read every word of yours. That's all .
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 27 March 2022 11: 13
              +1
              Quote: vitvit123
              You wrote the cost of zk !!

              Quote: vitvit123
              You did not write about the content of the fsin

              The content of the FPS is directly related to the maintenance of prisoners.
              Quote: vitvit123
              I don’t forget, I just carefully read what you give out,

              A whole company has already gathered here, which catches me in a lie. Yesterday, even one "fisherman-athlete" tried to prove to me that I did not take the photo of my brother with a one and a half meter pike from my computer, but from the Internet. Tired. Just downvote and move on.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 27 March 2022 11: 19
                -3
                You have a kindergarten here, or something + - ...
                No, it's very nice to watch how the villain dodges in every possible way!

                Oh, i.e. I'm not the only one telling you that you're a liar! Pleasant and commendable!
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 27 March 2022 10: 22
          +1
          Quote: vitvit123
          Now these expenses have increased to 200 rubles a day, about 6000 rubles a month ..

          You don’t write nonsense. First, try to eat for 6000 a month. Then try to get some treatment. And then add the salary of those who guard them, utilities of a special institution, and so on
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 27 March 2022 10: 46
            -1
            He did not voice the contents of the FPS apparatus !! You carefully read!! There is no convict in the Armed Forces at all, but funds are also being spent .. there is no convict in the library, but funds are also being spent, for example ...
            Regarding 6000 on the convict, look at the sources, Yandex to help .. there are graphs and information .., and the one who originally wrote this information, he systematically and regularly either lies (I pointed this out to him more than once), or deliberately distorts the facts, either not finishing it, or substituting the essence of things .. so I read very carefully what he writes .. you can read his comments and you will see it .. if you are interested, then in the topics about sp2, he in every possible way pulls an owl on the globe and when he was pointed to this , very cool twisted ..
            And about the fact that I wrote nonsense ..
            I will wait for a refutation from you, I found what I wrote ..
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 27 March 2022 14: 32
              -1
              Quote: vitvit123
              He did not voice the contents of the FPS apparatus !! You carefully read!! There is no convict in the Armed Forces at all, but funds are also being spent .. there is no convict in the library, but funds are also being spent, for example ...
              Regarding 6000 on the convict, look at the sources, Yandex to help .. there are graphs and information .., and the one who originally wrote this information, he systematically and regularly either lies (I pointed this out to him more than once), or deliberately distorts the facts, either not finishing it, or substituting the essence of things .. so I read very carefully what he writes .. you can read his comments and you will see it .. if you are interested, then in the topics about sp2, he in every possible way pulls an owl on the globe and when he was pointed to this , very cool twisted ..
              And about the fact that I wrote nonsense ..
              I will wait for a refutation from you, I found what I wrote ..

              I don’t know what anyone voiced there, but the content is made up of the above. These are all government expenses and the population pays for them
    2. Carat
      Carat 27 March 2022 07: 15
      0
      Quote from host
      Committed military crimes against the Russian army term - indefinitely ( ∞ ).


      Andrei hi What do you understand by this phrase?
      1. host
        host 27 March 2022 07: 23
        0
        Quote: Carat
        What do you understand by this phrase?

        Roman kind hi - life, until there are amendments or changes to the current moratorium on the death penalty. ps I think in the foreseeable future and will not change.
        1. Carat
          Carat 27 March 2022 07: 52
          0
          I meant a little different. What do you understand by crimes against the Russian army?
          1. host
            host 27 March 2022 08: 03
            +3
            Quote: Carat
            I meant a little different. What do you understand by crimes against the Russian army?

            Attitude towards our prisoners of war, bullying and torture, calls from mobile phones of dead soldiers and officers with threats to the lives of their families, attempts to carry out terrorist attacks at a nuclear power plant, a reactor at an institute, blowing up dams in the zone of our troops.
            1. Carat
              Carat 27 March 2022 08: 17
              -1
              Well, you have to be judged for that.
  7. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 27 March 2022 05: 46
    0
    We can safely say that someone will continue their subversive activities, someone will try to get a job. Some cases in Ukraine surprise me. The operation is going according to plan. Demilitarization is going well. But the siege of cities is like in ancient times. I don’t think that during the Second World War our pilots bombed cities recklessly. Bombs fell on those places where the intelligence pointed out. However, our trouble lies in the fact that it seems to us that we know everything. But in fact we know nothing.
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 27 March 2022 06: 22
      -1
      Of course, not for the lost .. shells with GPS, and laser illumination ... now, in general, aviation doesn’t work according to Marik!
      And here is the fact that we don’t know anything, etc. If such a doubter, go to Ukrainian sites, read and draw conclusions .. I’m on their sites a lot and my understanding does not change at all, but only strengthens in the fact that denazification is necessary ..
    2. your1970
      your1970 28 March 2022 17: 35
      0
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      I don’t think that during the Second World War our pilots bombed cities recklessly. Bombs fell on those places where intelligence indicated.
      .

      Mmmm...
      I’ll tell you a secret - the flyers (ALL!!! Polls - all the armies of the participants !!) periodically didn’t even hit the cities with bombs - they smeared ...
      What is there - "right on target!" ...
      The Angles had cases when, instead of one city, they bombed another repeat and learned about it already at the bases.
  8. gsev
    gsev 27 March 2022 06: 42
    +15
    In civilian life, I observed people at work and in their relationship with the state. In my opinion, in Russia the state and its elite do not adequately treat their subjects. Television, school, institute demonstrate to a person a style of behavior that cannot lead to successful integration into our society of a person who trusts what the leaders of the state, business, and the media call for. What could be more stupid than the slogan "There is no money, but you hold on" when everyone sees that the elite has a problem, what to do with resources and where to spend them. Television paints the delights of the life of kept housewives, secretaries and businesswomen making a fortune on the service of eccentric millionaires and exposes aircraft designers, technologists and electricians as idiot losers. One gets the impression that Russian ladies need to live in Turkey for a year to understand the need to give their children an engineering education rather than trying to find a bread place where money appears out of nowhere. The leadership of Russia got involved in a deadly struggle with the West and the pro-Western East, but is not able to enlighten its citizens what awaits them and what kind of help the state needs from its people and how the state is ready to evaluate the contribution of a particular person. As a result, Peskov expresses with his own lips the aspirations of the Russian leadership for his people and the whole world, and his daughter declares that she is a faithful servant of the West and is loyal to Biden, and the United States, and not to Russia and its leadership. That she considers it the sacred duty of the Russian people to pay for the comfortable voyages of the eccentric Lisa Peskova around the world so that she can not deny herself anything and be free from any obligations to Russia and from sanctions and censures from the authorities of the West. As long as this continues, talented young people will flee from industry and production to the near-office world and into the service sector of the rich nouveaux riches. At best, the service to check the activities of this indentured servant. The Americans, unlike the Russian management elite, were able to create an effective vertical of power both in their own country and in the Baltic States and Ukraine. There is no intermediate link of incompetent people who manage professionals. And professionals have been given the right to manage their industry. In our country, just as Korolev or Sakharov did not have the right to freely express their proposals on state administration, so now the Academy of Sciences or the creators of a successful vaccine can only gain access to the media through the intermediary in the form of clerks of various funds and departments.
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 27 March 2022 06: 58
      -6
      Maybe you'd better go west, to the Baltic states or the like. ? You may think that I am ideological, stupid, etc. , but the bottom line is that you wrote this is your vision; in the first place, it may be wrong! Well, there are no guarantees that you are always right!, and secondly: other people will have different opinions and what to do?
    2. CTEPX
      CTEPX 27 March 2022 08: 33
      0
      Quote: gsev
      The Americans, unlike the Russian management elite, were able to create an effective vertical of power both at home and ...

      The Anglo-Saxons have a Boy Scout system. Which is the basis of their control of the world. For
      successful opposition to the Anglo-Saxons, the Russian world will have to create an equally effective system of education. Otherwise - the inevitable civilizational vegetation until the formation of those generations of Russians who will demand such a system))
  9. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 27 March 2022 06: 49
    +11
    In fact, in the very first place, one should take care of the fate of their own soldiers who were captured. These are your children. They need to be rescued by any forces and means. The emotional trauma from captivity will stay with them forever. Therefore, they need to be taken as soon as possible.
    The same applies to the dead. Here we are talking about the feelings of loved ones and relatives. The dead should be buried with due honors, and not left in the care of the enemy. This is the first duty of any state that has sent its citizens to perform military duty. There is nothing more they can do for their dead.
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 27 March 2022 06: 55
      -11
      Oh what words! What a touching concern for us!.. Impressive! And without you, they don't understand anything here! After all, without you to figure out what is needed in the first, second and next stages! Or do you need to write something?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 27 March 2022 07: 30
        +8
        Quote: vitvit123
        What a touching concern for us!..

        Before youdear, I don't care. Also, this is not about me, but about the prisoners and the dead.
        Would you like to speak on the topic of discussion - you are welcome. If not, I dare not delay any longer. hi
        1. vitvit123
          vitvit123 27 March 2022 07: 43
          -11
          About Us ! It's actually about Russians, which I am! Russian wars do not need your crocodile tears! I speak as I relate to them! I repeat once again what to do first, second, etc. decide without such individuals on the other side of the front!
        2. aszzz888
          aszzz888 27 March 2022 08: 57
          -5

          A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
          Today, 07: 30

          And there is nothing to add to this - about you, and people like you.
          Runaways: a chance for self-purification of Russia
          Yesterday, 16: 56
        3. Thrifty
          Thrifty 27 March 2022 09: 37
          +3
          Privalov-Alexander hi - as a human being, I respect and respect you from me for your post about our prisoners and the dead! +++++++++++! hi
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 27 March 2022 08: 53
      -8

      A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
      Today, 06: 49
      NEW
      +2
      In fact, in the very first place, one should take care of the fate of their own soldiers captured. These are your children...
      wait sob! who are you rubbing it to? your post the other day about the fact that Zelensky "at such a time various parties get underfoot" ... and do you know that those who disagree with the ze and co dictatorship were burned in Odessa, blown up and shot all over the non-state? TOTALLY AGREE with
      vitvit123
      vitvit123
      Today, 06: 55
      NEW

      +1
      Oh what words! What a touching concern for us!.. Impressive! And without you, they don't understand anything here! After all, without you to figure out what is needed in the first, second and next stages! Or do you need to write something?
      and I want to say a lot more "kind words" to you, but the site administrators will not let you through - angry adviser, you are not ours! angry
      1. Soldatov V.
        Soldatov V. 27 March 2022 10: 11
        -6
        First, Privalov’s compatriots, such as Kolomoisky, armed the Banderaites, brought them to a fratricidal war, and then those who came home teach us mercy and compassion. How many Palestinians and Syrians do you kill every day, with all kinds of weapons?
        And Mr. Privalov?
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          1. Soldatov V.
            Soldatov V. 27 March 2022 14: 09
            -1
            I don’t know how it is in other regions, but here everyone dissuaded our Jews from leaving.
            All my Jewish friends and acquaintances were well-to-do and accomplished people, and I still don't understand why they left. The call of blood or something.
            How to call your teachings about our captured soldiers and those who died in the war?
            By the way, you can calculate how much you kill both Syrians and Palestinians and Iranians and Russians (one Il-28 is worth something), at least according to the media.
            Why do all oligarchs have Israeli citizenship? Is it not known that all Ukrainian oligarchs, yours by nationality, sponsor the Ukrainian army and nationalist battalions.
            You are no less than my tremble on this site.
            I envy those who own the red (beautiful) word. hi
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              1. Soldatov V.
                Soldatov V. 27 March 2022 18: 10
                -2
                Are you against the existence of the DNR and LNR? Against the Russian people? Against their Russian support? Such a smart man wrote 50 articles, but who fed the Nazis seems to have no idea. But didn’t you collect humanitarian aid to the Nazis, for example, in the Dnieper? To fight against the former homeland that oppressed you so much that you, like a scalded man, pulled the cordon. 35 years ago there was no phrase "suitcase, station, Russia" at all. This was invented by the Baltic nationalists after the collapse of the Soviet Union. What are your articles about? Like cotton candy, there is no topicality, no expression of a political position, and there is nothing to say about criticism, unlike other authors and combat editions.
  10. gsev
    gsev 27 March 2022 06: 55
    +3
    Quote: Red Biker
    Just "understand and forgive" will lead to the need for a Special Operation in a few years.

    The state should allow people to make a choice, clearly delineating the rewards and punishments for what they do. In Russia itself, some people bear hardships, and the fruits of their labors are completely different. Therefore, the Western system of remuneration for qualifications, experience and success sucks the most active, mobile and productive specialists out of Russia. It looks like now in Ukraine humanitarian aid will be distributed to everyone indiscriminately, and stubborn Bandera will not be prevented from making sure that Russian aid mostly gets to Russia's opponents. In 2 weeks, the Americans dispossessed the deposits of the Russian state and business to the West, and Russia does not even allow in the Crimea and the Donbass, nationalize or seize the property of structures that finance the formation of punishers like Akhmetov and Poroshenko ..
    1. goscha
      goscha 27 March 2022 09: 54
      +5
      Agree completely. I will say even more, the duality of the Kremlin’s actions, politics: “one step forward, two steps back” will not lead to anything good and baffles many sane people and patriots. Since 2014, the authorities have made a lot of mistakes and continue to make them to this day. For example Why was Chubais released? Why is Nabiullina still in charge of the Central Bank? Why are they not announcing additional conscription or at least creating volunteer formations from people who are able and willing to liberate Ukraine from brutal Nazis? It is already clear that our troops are stuck and positional battles have begun, we need rotation, fresh forces are needed!
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 27 March 2022 12: 30
        -6
        There are enough troops, volunteers are coming, no one got stuck anywhere. The smartest think, but are the fools in the General Staff? We formidable completely cleared by the end of February! Look now how much territory, so it's better to be silent.
        1. goscha
          goscha 27 March 2022 12: 51
          +2
          I agree that Ukraine is not Chechnya, both in terms of territory and population. But delaying the operation is not in our interests, our many "friends" on the other side of the border may be tempted to take part in the deriban of neighbors, and this is fraught with the escalation of the conflict. Do we need it? I don’t think ...
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 27 March 2022 13: 02
            -4
            They won’t climb this time, in what do you see the moment of bogging down ?? The troops are advancing towards large conglomerates, where there are many civilians. Unlike the ovs, who actually left scorched earth, we don't do that. Methodically destroys stocks of fuels and lubricants, warehouses and so on. In the first days, they swooped into Kharkov, as a result, there were heavy losses and, unfortunately, prisoners, so speed is needed when pouring fleas.
  11. north 2
    north 2 27 March 2022 07: 03
    +4
    first - all prisoners through scrupulous filters. But already yesterday it was necessary to start preparing and creating an international military tribunal to try the leaders and the most ardent Nazi criminals. The sentence by the decision of this tribunal is to be carried out without delay, no matter what is spent on the maintenance of these creatures.
    Well, the rest of the Nazis are five years old in the camps and a pick with a pick in the teeth! . This is about as long as it will take years to clean up the ruins in the cities destroyed by the fault of these Nazis. And then the strictest ban for life to hold any position other than a janitor and a ban on their travel abroad is also for life. There is no need to reinvent the wheel in order to punish Nazi criminals and the soldiers and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who served them
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 27 March 2022 07: 15
      0
      Quote: north 2
      first - all prisoners through scrupulous filters
      The most effective filter for the militias of the first wave and the Chechens! Natsiks at the expense, the rest of the events preceding the capture, VUS and sincerity of repentance.
    2. your1970
      your1970 28 March 2022 18: 06
      0
      Quote: north 2
      then the strictest prohibition for life to hold any position other than a janitor

      General of the Wehrmacht - after the Second World War became the general of the NNA of the GDR. For example, the Commander of the Armored Forces of the NNA of the GDR - was a lieutenant general in the Wehrmacht. I hope you won’t accuse Stalin of mildness and liberalism?
  12. riwas
    riwas 27 March 2022 07: 14
    +1
    The other side of the special operation. What to do with prisoners

    There is no need to talk with convinced Nazis: you can also judge by the stage. There is no need to rush with the rest. We must wait for the end of the special operation, our prisoners, as well as an extra trump card in the negotiations. Stalin sent captured Germans and Japanese to the construction sites of the national economy.
    1. Carat
      Carat 27 March 2022 07: 27
      +6
      Quote: riwas
      There is no need to talk with convinced Nazis: you can also judge by the stage.


      It is often found on the site: judge and hang, judge and shoot, judge and by stage.
      Those. in fact, the court in this case is just a form of giving legality, because the court's decision is already predetermined.
      Maybe just judge? And the court, depending on the degree of guilt, will itself issue a sentence.
  13. Awaz
    Awaz 27 March 2022 07: 47
    +5
    I agree that the topic is complex, but remember the civil war in Russia a hundred years ago. The Reds also took "receipts" in 18, that is, an officer's word of honor, from the same Kolchak and many others, that they would not fight against the new government ... We all know how it all ended ... The Soviet authorities also forgave many Bandera in due time and we are now reaping the result ...
  14. Thrifty
    Thrifty 27 March 2022 07: 53
    0
    First of all, do not let a single prisoner go! Now they all suddenly became poor sheep, and yesterday they were predators. Even the innocent are sent to restore the ruined. Take a company from the Chechen unit, and so that the prisoners work under the lezginka, and shout "we love Putin!" At least 1000 hours of work to restore what they themselves destroyed. And the Nazis, who, unfortunately, were taken alive, need to be sent to hard labor, to restore such a measure of punishment for their atrocities. 2 hours a day of rest, hard work in the quarries, no dates-TVs-phones. The time for caring is 10 minutes, sleeping at the place of work 2 hours a day. And, the most cruel punishments for them for a word during work, for any action! The faster they "die", the easier it will be for the rest of the population to live. And, ideally, you just need to not take them prisoner! They can’t live, but “release” only to the grave!
  15. Igorash
    Igorash 27 March 2022 07: 58
    +3
    There was already such a forgiveness .. So what? The grandchildren of those forgiven scum have grown up and taken up the old ... You can’t repeat the mistake ... It is necessary to respond to cruelty with total cruelty .... Stop playing good Russian .. Moreover, Russia is not now a state that preaches kindness and brotherhood, compassion and help .. If this is done by the leadership of the Russian Federation, it is clearly not out of love for people ... but for the sake of their political ambitions or for the sake of world public opinion ...
  16. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 27 March 2022 08: 23
    +3
    In my opinion there is nothing and no one to deal with! Now all these prisoners will start blowing the same tune: --.... we are not ourselves...., they forced us... I didn't want to go to war...etc. When he was with a weapon in his hands, he shouted --- Moskalyak to Gilyak, when he was without a weapon and in captivity, he dismissed nurses and tears. There are no innocent people there, especially those under 40! Everyone to the restoration of the LNR and DNR! They will work for 5 years on restoration for soldering, then maybe the mind will increase! I propose to the author to look at these prisoners from a different angle. Imagine that the operation was started not by the Russian Armed Forces, but by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and they went to restore order in the LPR and DPR, and the NM fighters of these republics were captured by them. Would they release on receipt the NM fighters captured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
  17. DominickS
    DominickS 27 March 2022 08: 30
    -1
    All this rabble should be put in a concentration camp and fed with slop. And the shit from the "dung" and other brown gay battalions to kill on the spot. With our captives pig dogs do not stand on ceremony - why then should we? There are no longer any "peaceful".
  18. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 27 March 2022 08: 40
    -4
    Russia (USSR) has experience working with prisoners. This is after WWII. All sick, medium and severely wounded, after checking for war crimes, release. The rest, after checking, are also divided into several categories. One of the simply military not seen in crimes against the civilian population is sent to restore the national economy. Live in barracks - supervised camps with appropriate indoctrination. Term up to 3 years. Others according to the severity of crimes in construction camps on construction sites such as the High-Latitude Polar Route, or
    laying a railway line from Sakhalin to the mainland, of course Kolyma, for at least five to ten years. After identifying the beasts, maniac killers and rapists against the wall, maybe in public.
    Foreign mercenaries who did not have time to stain their hands with blood to be exchanged for our people sitting in US prisons on false charges.
  19. Electrical
    Electrical 27 March 2022 08: 53
    0
    Until the end of hostilities on the territory of Ukraine, prisoners must be in camps! And with their honest and hard work to completely restore the destroyed infrastructure. Release only if there are no proven cases of damage to the Russian Armed Forces or local residents after the restoration of the destroyed. This is a huge job for the Specialists! But the recovery time will be long, the special officers will have time to sort everyone according to his deeds.
  20. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 27 March 2022 08: 56
    +2
    Something the article gives away rotten. They are enemies, surrendered or captured. They fought against our troops. And their attitude towards prisoners from our side is known. So, to the camp, to restore the Donbass, as soon as they restore, then immediately to Siberia, to make a railway to Magadan. We can't be kind, all kindness is in the past, there shouldn't be amnesties.
  21. Pavel57
    Pavel57 27 March 2022 08: 58
    +1
    The theme of the post-war device remains relevant, if it is not resolved, then it will resolve itself in the worst possible way.
  22. know
    know 27 March 2022 09: 00
    +2
    The days of chivalry are long gone, and yesterday's prisoners who "give a subscription" literally a few days after returning home will be caught and they will be offered two options: again in the trenches or - under the tribunal as deserters. Another thing is that it is unprofitable to keep thousands of healthy men ready for everything. It would be necessary to use them somehow. The best option is to the "people's militia" of the DPR and LPR - after verification, of course. As a last resort, let them work on the restoration of the objects they destroyed. But the "civilized West", of course, will be against - they say, forced labor. In general, everything is really difficult.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 27 March 2022 09: 36
      0
      Yes, everything is simpler: he was caught a second time after the receipt - he was killed during the arrest.
  23. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 27 March 2022 09: 01
    +2
    Another question is about civil administration. All leaders of any level appointed by the Bandera regime should be removed. They need to be banned from holding leadership positions for 15-20 years, and preferably for life. For ten years to impose a moratorium on elections. Appoint people only with the consent of the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs or the Prosecutor's Office after appropriate verification.
    All sermons in the churches of the Uniate Church must be recorded and checked for extremism and terror. And control of all technical types of monitoring of roads, stations, etc.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 27 March 2022 09: 36
      +1
      It is somewhat easier not to appoint local managers at all.
  24. gorenina91
    gorenina91 27 March 2022 09: 04
    -8
    - I would even suggest changing the name of some cities.
    - For example :
    - The Russian city of Kharkov - to be renamed "Mazepovsk" or "Iudovsk" - so let the inhabitants of this city be called - "Mazepovites" ... or "Jewish"!
    - Damn, eight years ago, in this Russian city of Kharkov - in this 1,5 millionth city of Kharkov - a dozen or two buses with "zapadents" arrived! - And these "zapadentsy" - "built" a whole 1,5 million city of Kharkov "at attention" !!! - And Kharkovites, instead of simply catching and crushing all this "Zapadensky evil spirits" on the streets and in the gateways of their 1,5 million city - got scared and skipped ran to the factories and factories of the industrial 1,5 million city of Kharkov - and became a day and night shock "forge weapons", produce and repair armored vehicles, produce cartridges, shells, military equipment, etc. - for the Armed Forces of Ukraine !!! - Yes, and voluntarily join the national battalions !!! - Damn - these Russian "Kharkovites-Vlasovites" - voluntarily began to remake themselves into "wide Ukrainians" !!!
    - Many now say that, they say, they have been "brainwashed" in eight years, and so on!
    - And these Kharkiv residents did not even have to be brainwashed - they themselves voluntarily desired to turn into "big Ukrainians" !!! - And how did these Kharkiv citizens help to raise the military industry for the Armed Forces of Ukraine with their own hands !!!
    - Neither give nor take - "new Czechoslovakia" - Czechoslovakia, which forged weapons for Nazi Germany throughout the Second World War !!!
    - And today this "Kharkov-Mazepovsk" - how many more "bloody problems" will it add for the RF Armed Forces !!! - And then these "Mazepovites" - very amicably stand in line for the "Russian humanitarian aid"; and the prisoners will then babble - that, they say - "he was taken by force - he did not want to - he is for the Russians - he is for the Russians"! - In general - a shame on this city!
  25. Coma_64
    Coma_64 27 March 2022 09: 10
    0
    There is experience of filtration camps both in the Patriotic and Chechen. There are specials. Work, I don't want to. Filter little by little.
  26. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 27 March 2022 09: 17
    +5
    It is not clear what it means to punish prisoners of war? Are they to be punished? After all, only those military personnel who committed war crimes are subject to punishment. The rest are required to be kept until the end of the war, or using their labor in the restoration of settlements destroyed during the conduct of hostilities.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 27 March 2022 09: 34
      0
      But if, for example, remember parts of the ss?
      1. Dimon-chik-79
        Dimon-chik-79 27 March 2022 09: 39
        +1
        Azov as an analogy for the SS? Yes, the identity is visible
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 27 March 2022 09: 51
      0
      They are all a priori criminals, they did not defend the country, they destroyed people in the Donbass.
  27. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 27 March 2022 09: 18
    +3
    In fact, participation in hostilities for a soldier is not a crime.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 27 March 2022 09: 33
      0
      So there is no need to spend money on courts with sentences either.
    2. Luenkov
      Luenkov 27 March 2022 10: 15
      0
      To destroy the civilians of your state is a crime, to do it as part of a gang.
  28. APASUS
    APASUS 27 March 2022 09: 22
    +2
    You can’t let the soldiers go in any way. They need to be brainwashed in the same order, otherwise they are ready-made partisans. Labor camps have not been canceled, they have something to restore
    1. Simple
      Simple 27 March 2022 11: 02
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Labor camps have not been canceled

      Almost the entire male population of Ukraine in labor camps?
      Do you hear yourself?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 28 March 2022 08: 26
        0
        Quote: Simple
        Almost the entire male population of Ukraine in labor camps?
        Do you hear yourself?

        What is the male population, what do you think there are all without exception made of wood.
        1. your1970
          your1970 28 March 2022 18: 31
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: Simple
          Almost the entire male population of Ukraine in labor camps?
          Do you hear yourself?

          What is the male population, what do you think there are all without exception made of wood.

          16 waves of mobilization + personnel. One and a half million will easily run up
  29. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 27 March 2022 09: 32
    +1
    What is there to think?

    The officers and the entire composition of the ideological units should not even surrender, this is not like Bandera. Otherwise, what kind of Ukrainians are they? And if they still try to give up, then you can’t stop them from becoming heroes. Posthumously.

    Well, the rest of the party - camps and, after, construction teams. There will be a lot of restoration work.
  30. DeGreen
    DeGreen 27 March 2022 09: 43
    +7
    What to do with prisoners? And you look at the latest video of how the Armed Forces of Ukraine shoot through the legs of captured soldiers of the Russian Federation. Or, how doused with gasoline sets it on fire. It is the APU
    1. Simple
      Simple 27 March 2022 10: 54
      -4
      Whom - where - this will be the prerogative of counterintelligence and the FSB.
      The work is really filigree.
      No need to mow down everyone with the same brush, just because you have revenge in your head.
      1. DeGreen
        DeGreen 27 March 2022 13: 07
        +2
        Here, you, a liberal, still advise everyone to let go. They are children.
        1. your1970
          your1970 28 March 2022 18: 42
          0
          Quote: DeGreen
          Here, you, a liberal, still advise everyone to let go. They are children.

          There was such a liberal (in your terms !! probably) Stalin .. Joseph Vissarionovich ... He took after the Second World War and - purely liberal - appointed the generals of the Wehrmacht - the generals of the NNA of the GDR ...

          Well, he really joked subtly all the same - he awarded them with the GDR medal "For the fight against fascism" ....
          1. DeGreen
            DeGreen 29 March 2022 10: 53
            0
            He took care of the country. And he was right. But the Cornflower let them all go.
            1. your1970
              your1970 29 March 2022 11: 40
              0
              Quote: DeGreen
              He took care of the country. And was right

              That is, you understand what it is during the translation at the present time - to take and appoint the generals of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - the generals of the new Ukrainian army (and it will be - even in the form of police forces - to catch Bandera) ????
              Do you understand-WHAT will happen if Putin repeats this action of Stalin???
              Yes, VO will go into hysterics - the smallest ..
              But Stalin could do that, yeah ....
  31. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 March 2022 09: 46
    +4
    To begin with, these Ukrobanderites do not need to be taken prisoner.
    Those who still got there should be in the tribunal, where they will determine who is on the gilyak (yes, like after the Second World War), who is on the pancreas, and who is how old to plow 14 hours a day, restoring the infrastructure destroyed by their hands.
    Russia also suffered considerable financial costs and this is the basis for resolving the issue of where who should work.
    And fewer emotions, this animal knew where and why it was going, especially since there are documents proving this.
  32. yashka12007
    yashka12007 27 March 2022 09: 51
    -2
    Something you all fit one size fits all, and artillerymen, mortarmen, rocket launchers, they knew perfectly well that they were shooting at residential areas, they also signed missiles, and that they should be released, even if everyone will sit in the camps, during this time to identify everyone, and Ukrainians in the camp will hand over their own for a cigarette, but after the operation, some people can be lowered, on whom there are docks to judge, and the rest should be finished quietly.
  33. Luenkov
    Luenkov 27 March 2022 10: 00
    +1
    Roadsides in Russia are required to be cleaned and backfilled. Blockages in the Ukrlpii itself to disassemble.
  34. Aldmit_2
    Aldmit_2 27 March 2022 10: 36
    +1
    From the prisoners to form construction teams to rebuild cities.
  35. lelik613
    lelik613 27 March 2022 10: 42
    +2
    Comrade ... Staver simplifies ... Everyone should get their own without exemptions and benefits, discounts for the number of children. The air conditioner exploded on its own, and you followed orders? If you please, go to hell, my dear.
  36. tech3030
    tech3030 27 March 2022 10: 47
    +1
    As they say now, there are specially trained people, they will do this. My vision is - filtration camps with selection. Separate the ardent ones, with such it is clear to work with others. This is a lot of work, for decades.
  37. faiver
    faiver 27 March 2022 10: 50
    +3
    After watching a video where our prisoners are shot through the legs, all humanism in relation to Ukrainian prisoners disappears negative
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 27 March 2022 11: 25
      +6
      Quote: faiver
      After watching a video where our prisoners are shot through the legs, all humanism in relation to Ukrainian prisoners disappears negative

      The author asks us what to do, as I understand it? All participants in the video from the Ukrainian side should be shot. Those who shot, those who held, and those who watched. Unfortunately, a reasonable approach on the part of our authorities is unlikely here ...
  38. Simple
    Simple 27 March 2022 10: 50
    0
    There are already examples of how the former authorities are being restored in the liberated territories.


    Including in this way, the lives of both civilians and warring parties are saved. These people then live side by side. Why the extra bitterness?
    And promises must be kept. All people are adults. everyone will understand later. And who will not like the future government - Poland or Western Ukraine will accept them.
  39. Scaffolding
    Scaffolding 27 March 2022 11: 08
    0
    Only those territorial divisions will fight well, in which, in addition to the generally accepted principles of formation, national traditions, faith, ideologies are used


    And also combat psychostimulants.
  40. Private61
    Private61 27 March 2022 11: 16
    +1
    If "heroes" cannot be hanged, then they will go to hard labor to restore the destroyed until they die.
  41. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 27 March 2022 11: 19
    +3
    Hmm ... In general, the problem has a long-tested solution. Work should be carried out as it was done during the Second World War. The NKVD calmly, in a planned manner, and very effectively caught enemies, criminals, including not only the military, all kinds of offenders ... At the same time, NKVD officers used only interrogations of witnesses and a paper trail. Millions of people passed through their hands, and if there is anything to reproach these officers with, it is excessive softness towards Bandera and accomplices, for which we are now forced to pay.
    In the modern world, at the moment there is no problem in determining both the political orientation and the general mood of the prisoner. And all his sins, both before the old and before the new government, are not difficult to find. Social media indeed! As we now know, if the enemy and the traitor are allowed to talk with impunity, he will hand over all his accomplices and himself without any problems. There are practically no exceptions, so some difficulties can arise only with those who consider themselves terribly cunning, individuals who were social networks under pseudonyms. Photo analysis to help...
    Of course, the time of total incompetence and general theft leaves its mark. The corresponding department of military counterintelligence, and the FSB, of course, certainly have ten chiefs involved in the "development" of funds, and a couple of real specialists paid according to the residual principle and "to blame for everything." Will have to change it)
    The question seems to be what to do next? Identified Natsiks should, of course, be shot. Unfortunately, this will meet with great resistance in the military and political elite, some of the bought, some of them simply habitually wriggling their backs in front of the opinion of foreigners. "Europe will be unhappy, so we are considered barbarians"! Settle all murderers, torturers and rapists in sanatoriums like Breivik! Ugh, filth...
    The question remains - what to do with those who have not stained themselves, but simply hate Russians? There are a lot of such people in general. There were countless of them even in the USSR, each of us who encountered Ukrainians in those years had relevant experience. That is, it is necessary to develop a certain approach to dealing with these people. Well, let's try.
    Soldiers are the easiest. Adopt a certain procedural norm, something like "service to a criminal regime", and send them closer to the Arctic Circle for 5-7 years. You can give work, you can leave it like that, let them sit on racks. The diet is only set differently for those who work out their content, and those who do not. For the rest, after analyzing the usual moods, so to speak, there are several options.
    Firstly, expulsion from the country with deprivation of citizenship, with a ban on returning to Ukraine or entering Russia. They hate Russia, denazified Ukraine is clearly the same, that's okay. Yes, with this we will create a legion of saboteurs and spies. So it already exists, even if they land back from Canada. Yes, and on the territory of Western countries, the residence of these wonderful people will teach both Europeans and Americans a lot ...
    For those who breathe less hatred - locked up in the profession, a ban on holding any leadership positions, and police supervision. It's boring and disgusting, but what to do? I don't see any other way. Well, everything else along the way...
    1. Simple
      Simple 27 March 2022 11: 51
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail3
      There are practically no exceptions, so that some difficulties can arise only with those who consider themselves terribly cunning, personalities,

      For the FSV and counterintelligence, this is absolutely not a problem - this is part of their job. You. apparently just off topic.

      In general, the author of the article ran a little ahead of the locomotive.
      Some articles are desirable to publish a postscript.
      I wanted to make rational proposals on this topic. I would write to specialized institutions.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 27 March 2022 15: 21
        +1
        I know (well, for a miserable shpak)) what their work is. The question is its scale, which since the beginning of the special operation has increased by a thousand times and continues to grow rapidly.
        Thanks to the sweetest globalist capitalists, the whole country faced exactly this very problem. After all, worthless Soviet structures fed millions of specialists who are needed only periodically. What a difference between effective capitalism and its new thinking! Did the job, closed the project? Well done gosh!
        Hurray, no more need to feed the damned specialists while they study, heal and hang out around the base without a task. It's simple - you drive them out into the cold. And when you need them again, you place an application, and they come running again! Well heaven...
        But it all turned out to be a fairy tale in the rotten brains of modern harrypotters. Representatives of the "new world" that exists only in their infantile fantasies. You submit an application and...
        Most of the specialists have ceased to be such. Since they need to eat every day, they retrained for a much lower level of other professions, in which they feed every day. And they just send you, no matter how much money they promise (yes, you don’t have a lot, the work is real, and not just another robbery of the budget, so money is running out).
        The rest can be released... well, in half a year. It's not accurate. And that tenth that you hired in the end, except for part of the terminology, does not fumble with anything. Well, specialists don’t grow in weeds, they need to be taught for many years, but where can they get money for their studies? Well, it’s necessary for years to simply throw away millions to the wind ... in order to eventually get a job for three months with a salary 15% higher than the market. They will all do it. They will give birth to tens of millions of rubles, so that in the end they will receive 50 pieces each for three months.
        So the abundance of high competencies has long gone to shit. He's not around. There is nowhere for the counters and the FSB to increase their personnel. Like everyone else in the country. Efficiency went off scale, sorry ...

        And yes. if you have any suggestions on how else to split the budget - write to the relevant institutions. If on business - do not write out the pen. There is simply no one to look at your writings ...
    2. tech3030
      tech3030 28 March 2022 13: 03
      +1
      What does the scripture say: if you hit one, turn the other up? Here, if you set you up, they'll just cut off your head.
  42. Sedoy
    Sedoy 27 March 2022 11: 27
    0
    What to do with prisoners


    There's no problem...
    we have such experience since the Second World War
    all prisoners, after a double-triple check, are sent to "camps" for the restoration of destroyed cities / enterprises, etc.
    for 10 or even 15 years...
  43. faterdom
    faterdom 27 March 2022 11: 40
    0
    In fact, to deal with each in detail.

    Criminals and Nazis on trial, preferably not ours, but Donetsk or Luhansk.
    But just military personnel - to shoot down small penal companies, since everyone understands the language, under the guidance of our
    officers and sergeants - all privates.
    And for mine clearance, restoration of bridges, railways, airfields in the liberated areas. Do not introduce formations into the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation, subordinate the LDNR, pay salaries to maintain pants and families. For desertion - criminal liability, for betrayal and wrecking tower.
  44. Gvardeetz77
    Gvardeetz77 27 March 2022 12: 11
    0
    I read the comments on the article and was horrified! More than half of the comments about killing without trial or investigation, or judging and shooting, or the most humane thing, make them work until they die ... The subject of the site implies that many servicemen or former servicemen read it, who were supposed to study the Geneva Conventions, but apparently either they overslept these topics or were in outfit, but they didn’t study the missed material during self-training ... There is no need to give examples that “there” communicate badly with prisoners and it should also, no, they do this to evoke a feeling of revenge, a harsh response and show these facts in front of their warriors, so that they would be afraid to give up and fight to the "last drop of blood" ... There are also in the conventions about volunteers with the militia and their rights and even about partisans, get acquainted, thirsty for blood (I still hope that this is most bots, not sane people).
    I do not urge everyone to stroke the head and, without waiting for the end of the database, to release them on parole, because they can be called up again and then even by conventions they are not guaranteed the rights of prisoners of war, but they cannot be destroyed, like wild African tribes! Yes, to involve in labor, but not slavish 24/7, but civilized and cover it in every possible way in all the media, the Internet, telegrams, YouTube, with the involvement of bloggers, creating an image (real!) of humane people, not animals!
    1. Simple
      Simple 27 March 2022 12: 28
      +3
      In fact, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation should speak on the subject of the treatment of prisoners and their further essence.
      Also, publish material on this topic on television and the Internet social networks. And on the theater of operations - an active report to the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about their fate as a prisoner of war.
    2. Jager
      Jager 28 March 2022 08: 55
      +1
      Aidar, Azov and other rabble should be declared as compounds OUTSIDE of the Geneva Convention and leveled with TOSs. Linear connections of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - carefully check and send to work.
  45. Captain45
    Captain45 27 March 2022 12: 23
    +2
    There are already examples of how the former authorities are being restored in the liberated territories. A kind of light-fascist version of power ... Metastases remain, and they must be urgently removed in an operative way. It's worth thinking about.(C)
    Crimea has been part of Russia for eight years, and there are enough problems with national Ukrainianism in Crimea. So the work ahead is no end, the field is not plowed.
  46. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 27 March 2022 12: 23
    +2
    After the video of mockery of our prisoners, where they shoot them in the legs, they don’t provide assistance, it’s better not to take prisoners ... He’s bleating now that he didn’t want to, but he’ll rest and sit and shoot at night in the backs .. I understand, radically. But there is a second option, the strictest test, if he is charged with killing civilians, bullying, then the court, the rest to restore the destroyed, and mercenaries, national battalions definitely do not take prisoner, average ones, as the author pointed out for an exchange for our prisoners.
    1. Serg serg
      Serg serg 27 March 2022 14: 07
      0
      In 1943, during the liberation of Voronezh, Stalin ordered "not to take the Magyars prisoner." It's for something like this. And now, near Voronezh, the largest Hungarian military cemetery in the world. After 1943, Hungary practically had no army left and quickly withdrew from the war.
      We need to take advantage of our own experience.
  47. Arkady007
    Arkady007 27 March 2022 12: 51
    +2
    It is necessary to use the post-war experience of the Second World War.
    When thousands of prisoners from Europe and Japan worked in the vastness of the country. Thousands of kilometers of roads, bridges, hundreds of sanatoriums have been built. Let them work for the benefit of the people, both ours and theirs, for five years. During this time, they will have time to rethink a lot. For one thing, read them the history of Russia every day.
    1. Serg serg
      Serg serg 27 March 2022 14: 04
      0
      I fully support!
  48. Antor
    Antor 27 March 2022 13: 51
    +3
    How many years have passed for the Balts as part of the USSR, but their bestial essence of nationalism has remained. Either they are now marching in the Baltic states with torches, led by their still living veterans who fought for the Nazis against us. Also in Ukraine .....!!!!! You can’t be kind in every possible way and repeat the mistakes of the Khrushchev amnesty for those who killed people - whether they sent him by force, or he voluntarily went under the banners, and even with fascist emblems on chevrons, on his body, and most importantly, in his soul !!! It is necessary not only to let go, but to judge .... defining each measure of responsibility according to bloody merits, up to capital punishment. Otherwise, everything will repeat itself from the beginning - both the Bandera caches and the Bandera terror with their government in exile somewhere in Poland or Great Britain. It seems that there is not enough strength to organize such work ..... and this is very bad.
  49. Serg serg
    Serg serg 27 March 2022 14: 03
    0
    I don’t really understand that the author invents a bicycle. Stalin invented everything before us. Let them work in the labor camps and let them rebuild the destroyed cities. They work for food. At the same time, special authorities will filter who and what did before. Excellent workforce. Buildings, mines, fields. Enough work.
  50. Berg berg
    Berg berg 27 March 2022 14: 06
    0
    What to do with the prisoners? To restore the destroyed cities of Donbass in the first place and this is a long time, a whole load of work and a big cart! But the leadership of the non-country, the commanders and the ardent Nazis, the tribunal, and it was in Donetsk, according to the law of war.