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Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine: Europeans will have to accept Putin's condition and buy gas for rubles

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In Ukraine, he comments on the decision of the President of Russia and the transfer of payments for Russian gas with unfriendly countries into rubles. Recall that among the unfriendly countries - Ukraine.


The assessment of the situation is given by the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, the head of the UIB (Ukrainian Institute for the Future) Vadim Denisenko. According to him, Vladimir Putin's decision to sell gas only for rubles to unfriendly countries is a strong move.

Denisenko noted that the situation for the European Union in this regard is actually a dead end. An adviser to the head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs points out that now the Europeans will have to accept Russia's condition and buy Russian rubles with their currency in order to pay for energy with Moscow.

Denisenko:

Estimated volumes for 2023 are 400 billion euros, based on current gas prices. And Europe will have to convert this huge amount of money into rubles and pay Russia, because neither this nor next year will it be able to refuse Russian gas supplies.

According to a Ukrainian expert and politician, Europe will not be enough to refuse gas from the Russian Federation even in three years, which means that it will have to invest in the Russian ruble:

Accordingly, this will lead to the fact that the Russian economy will recover during this time after the imposed sanctions.

Denisenko:

Putin's logic is simple. He needs to win not only the economic but also the political battle now. What happens next, he will figure it out later. The Kremlin knows that two countries, Iran and Saudi Arabia, can move it on the world energy market. But the deal with Iran is stalling because of the position of Israel, and Saudi Arabia itself is going to transfer payments for oil from dollars to yuan.

According to the Ukrainian expert, while such geopolitical and economic shifts are taking place, Ukraine can simply be forgotten, Ukraine "will go out of geopolitical fashion."

Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine:

Today, Putin outplays everyone, because he has what everyone needs - energy resources.
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  1. rusich
    rusich 23 March 2022 19: 07
    +96


    Putin outplays everyone because he has what everyone needs - energy resources.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 23 March 2022 19: 14
      +19
      According to the Ukrainian expert, while such geopolitical and economic shifts are taking place, Ukraine can simply be forgotten, Ukraine will “go out of geopolitical fashion”
      And she was? Fashion for Ukraine, if I overslept, then God thank you, saved me from this nightmare. Somehow suddenly a bargaining chip suddenly became fashionable. And now it’s not a change, even for numismatists it’s not worth it.
      1. krot
        krot 23 March 2022 19: 16
        +21
        Today, Putin outplays everyone, because he has what everyone needs - energy resources.

        Because the power is in the truth!
        1. Dmitry Donskoy
          Dmitry Donskoy 23 March 2022 19: 23
          +9
          Well, now let them buy our rubles for their euros, and we will buy everything we need for euros, especially since sanctions will not be imposed on these Euros. hi
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 23 March 2022 19: 42
            +70
            I didn’t think that I would live to see the day when Putin would be praised like that at VO! How many years have I proved that Russia has the best president in the world! But in response, there are usually a lot of minuses from the so-called "patriots". I just want to ask them: well, how do you like my president? Why don't you pour dirt on him and don't look for his capital in the West? What, stuck tongue, you know where, you can’t pull it out? But I told you that Putin will still say his word. Well, how do you like it? I don't see your screams at all! Russia was, Russia is, Russia will continue to be Great! And with such a president, we are not afraid of any "nata"! God bless you and long life, Vladimir Vladimirovich!
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 23 March 2022 19: 44
              -77
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              How many years have I proved that Russia has the best president in the world!

              Don't prove it to me. negative
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 23 March 2022 19: 46
                +38
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Don't prove it to me.

                And I'm not going! Everything is proven without me. hi
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 23 March 2022 19: 52
                  -53
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  Everything is proven without me

                  And how is this proven and by whom?
                  1. PAUL 7
                    PAUL 7 23 March 2022 20: 43
                    +11
                    That Mordvin from the word m-yes. ugh ugh.
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                  2. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 23 March 2022 20: 56
                    +23
                    Funny.
                    The more NATO manages to drop the ruble exchange rate, the ... more rubles they will have to spend on gas
                    laughing
              2. Romario Argo
                Romario Argo 23 March 2022 20: 29
                +17
                What is a chess player, what is a hockey player, what is a judoka. You have to wait for the throw. Some people can't understand it
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 23 March 2022 21: 01
                  -31
                  Quote: Romario Argo
                  You have to wait for the throw. Some people can't understand it

                  Yeah, how! I'm gifted to understand. I have a scar on my forehead from a stick.
                  1. rassel0889
                    rassel0889 23 March 2022 21: 27
                    +14
                    You see, they hit it well with a club)))
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 16: 26
                      -4
                      Quote: rassel0889
                      You see, they hit it well with a club)))

                      Fitted perfectly. Several stitches were put in the hospital.
                  2. Semjon Semjonov
                    Semjon Semjonov 23 March 2022 23: 10
                    +5
                    I have a scar on my forehead from a club.
                    It's not a scar, it's your only gyrus, from your cap.
                2. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 24 March 2022 03: 06
                  +7
                  Quote: Romario Argo
                  What is a chess player, what is a hockey player, what is a judoka. You have to wait for the throw. Some people can't understand it

                  I, a very snotty kid, was taught by my first coach that the enemy should never - not by a glance, not by a single movement, not even by a deep breath or exhalation, should guess what you will do in the next second. For the enemy, one must always be unexpected, like snow in June.
                  Since then, I have been involved in several types of martial arts, including judo - the principle is the same everywhere.
                  It's the same in life and in business.

                  Although Putin is older than me and I in no way compare myself with him (who he is and who I am), but, in a broad sense, it turns out that we were taught by the same coaches.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 03: 21
                    -10
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    we were taught by the same trainers.

                    Your father taught you.
                    1. Zoldat_A
                      Zoldat_A 24 March 2022 03: 57
                      +3
                      hi
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Quote: Zoldat_A
                      we were taught by the same trainers.

                      Your father taught you.

                      Life - yes. And sambo is a coach. My father only in the summer, on the Volga, on the sand, if he was not away, "controlled" what I learned. lol
                      My father took me by the hand. Of course, I wasn't going to ballet or chess either. I thought about boxing. But the father said harshly: "Sambo." Then, when after sports sambo came combat, when he served in the army, when he began to engage in other types of wrestling, I understood why.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 12: 08
                        -1
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        But the father said harshly: "Sambo."

                        And how rightly said. And I, fool, went to hand-to-hand combat, a mixture of karate and the devil knows what. Seen enough of Vann Damme. Nogodrychestvo.
                      2. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 24 March 2022 15: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And how rightly said. And I, fool, went to hand-to-hand combat, a mixture of karate and the devil knows what. Seen enough of Vann Damme. Nogodrychestvo.

                        You're talking about yourself, Vladimir.
                        Quite a decent job. I knew several very reputable hand-to-hand fighters. True, due to my family characteristics, all of them were active officers and did not particularly participate in any open competitions. But in the army they were well known.
                        Jean-Claude KakDam - karate-do in its purest form. Sports item. Approximately like sports sambo. Although I have never had problems like “I’ll go to the section right now, learn to fight and beat Vaska from a neighboring house”, but, nevertheless, for me, the main criterion in choosing a style has always been maximum efficiency, not entertainment.
                        Therefore, at one time I was in karate-do for a couple of months, participated in a couple of competitions and, although I performed well, ran away to Kyokushinkai. It was then that I remembered that it was not for nothing that my father took me to sambo. Although the techniques are diametrically different, I really liked their alloy (or mixture - I don’t know).
                        And KakDam... Don't forget that in karate he came from ballet (lol) acrobatics. Hence the "noddyryzhestvo". But the cinema is beautiful.
                        As my father used to say, and he knew a lot about it, "Otherwise there won't be an interesting movie." lol
                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 15: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        As my father used to say, and he knew a lot about it, "Otherwise there won't be an interesting movie."

                        I spoke with your father. And I respected him a lot. Everything he said was correct. And Vann Damme was working as a waiter when some director noticed him. That's exactly what acrobatics is, but it's useless. In vain I did not listen to my uncle, he told me that I would go to sambo. No, I fell for fashion. Karate, wu-shu, all kinds of styles of drunken masters and herons ....
                      4. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 24 March 2022 15: 33
                        0
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        No, I fell for fashion. Karate, wu-shu, all kinds of styles of drunken masters and herons ....

                        Wu-shu is a good thing in terms of OFP.
                        But somehow, as a child, in the 5-7th grade, I accidentally stumbled upon Vereshchagin's book "Physical Culture of Indian Yogis", a purple book on bad paper in soft cover. I read it and was amazed. In fact - the usual hatha yoga. An amazing thing for joints, ligaments and other tendons. My friends looked at me like I was a fool, when I “stretched” the tendon in the gym for another 30-40 minutes after training.
                        Now, after the accident, I don’t know when and what, but I’m slowly restoring what I can. By the end of the summer I hope to run. lol
                      5. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 15: 42
                        0
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        30-40 minutes after training, the tendon in the gym "stretched".

                        In general, I practiced wu-shu for two hours a day. Brucel Lee is fabulous. The light turned on exclusively with his feet, the chandelier was gouged with nunchucks. He beat bricks with his palms and pounded bottles on his forehead. request
                      6. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 24 March 2022 15: 48
                        +1
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        30-40 minutes after training, the tendon in the gym "stretched".

                        In general, I practiced wu-shu for two hours a day. Brucel Lee is fabulous. The light turned on exclusively with his feet, the chandelier was gouged with nunchucks. He beat bricks with his palms and pounded bottles on his forehead. request

                        good laughing
                        Himself from the same generation - everything is familiar.
              3. swnvaleria
                swnvaleria 23 March 2022 20: 32
                +4
                How can you prove something about Russians to someone who writes in Russian with errors.
                1. Seamaster
                  Seamaster 23 March 2022 20: 44
                  -1
                  How can you prove something about Russians to someone who writes in Russian with errors. [quote] [/ quote]
                  Are you talking about yourself? Actually, in Russian.
              4. Dalmatia
                Dalmatia 23 March 2022 20: 42
                +6
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                How many years have I proved that Russia has the best president in the world!

                Don't prove it to me. negative


                The proof is those minuses that you put.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 23 March 2022 20: 53
                  -21
                  Quote: Dalmatia
                  those disadvantages that you put.

                  This is not an indicator.
              5. Charik
                Charik 23 March 2022 21: 07
                +5
                I don’t like living in the Russian Federation, please get out, Latvia, Lithuania, move next
            2. swnvaleria
              swnvaleria 23 March 2022 20: 33
              +9
              A brilliant strategist and patriot of his country. Vladimir Vladimirovich Russians are proud of you!
            3. Russian
              Russian 23 March 2022 21: 16
              -17
              Let's get on the shelves:
              - Nobody pours mud, because everyone was imprisoned, and in the State Duma for a long time everyone is "their own"
              - Do you go to the clinic? How do you like the quality of the services provided, are you satisfied with everything? I personally don't. Education? Yes, take any sphere, everywhere is a mess. Checking structures only put spokes in the wheels to the real sector and business
              - For a bunch of broken promises, someone is responsible? What? Can't hear an answer? Here everyone unloved Chubais, Nabiulina, Serdyukov, Rogozin. And they have already attached all their kids - at 25, successful directors of state-owned companies, why not)
              Continue further? Your sugary uryapatriotism makes me sick.
              GDP has done what should have been done a long time ago, or at least actively move towards it. And you are almost ready to kiss him in hell
              1. rassel0889
                rassel0889 23 March 2022 21: 31
                +2
                Well, don't like it for free, please! There is always paid medicine and education, everything is like in the prosperous West!
                1. Russian
                  Russian 23 March 2022 21: 53
                  -11
                  So, they pulled the phrase out of the general context and answered, well) I go to thank God for VHI, the company allows. Grandfather is stuffed with all sorts of pills, and driven from one doctor to another, here is our level in compulsory health insurance.
                  But back to the message, and comment on the rest? Everything else suits you?
              2. Shaman
                Shaman 24 March 2022 12: 49
                +1
                You are as Russian as that Jew from your brother2, we Russians do not deceive each other.
            4. Tusv
              Tusv 23 March 2022 21: 30
              +5
              Quote: SRC P-15
              I didn’t think that I would live to see the day when Putin would be praised like that at VO!

              hi Alexander. Here Vladimir Vladimirovich looks at the concept of air defense. Each division needs an X number of carriers, when an X number is not enough - the air defense wins by one wicket with minimal losses. Complete takeover of the sky. That is a no-fly zone. And then there's the energy. Who owns the energy, he owns the world, and mattresses think the old fashioned way - Propaganda
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 24 March 2022 09: 18
                +1
                Quote: Tusv
                And then there's the energy. Who owns the energy, he owns the world, and mattresses think the old fashioned way - Propaganda

                Greetings, Vladimir! hi That's what I mean: some people just can't understand that before Putin had no opportunity to have such a conversation with the West. And now, when he put them on such a hooked hook - an energy hook, the West is unlikely to break from it. And the rest will come with time. The main thing is not to turn off the intended path.
            5. Witness 45
              Witness 45 23 March 2022 22: 07
              -1
              For too long he swayed, accustomed the West to the fact that you can spit on Russia, that even today after all the events they don’t take Russia’s actions seriously, it should have been done back in 14, now changing the attitude towards Russia will cost more effort and blood .
              1. ZAV69
                ZAV69 25 March 2022 08: 56
                +1
                Quote: Svidetel 45
                it was necessary to do this back in 14, now changing the attitude towards Russia will cost more effort and blood.

                Yes, he could not do this at the age of 14. Crimea turned out miraculously. In 14, everything was already on the cards, and all the processing was over the hill, the map of the world was not even on paper yet. All absolutely reserves in American papers. There was no hypersound, the army was still in ruins. At that time, today's sanctions would have laid us down like a house of cards. And now, for a month, nothing fatal has happened.
            6. ilia3075
              ilia3075 24 March 2022 05: 07
              +3
              And you didn’t think that all these so-called “patriots” were from a neighboring country, which we are now denazifying. And they were by no means civilian passengers, but in uniform. By the way, I noticed that after February 24, all this viper was washed away like water. And then I’ll go to the site, read the comments, and it feels like I’m somewhere at the Forum of Ukrainian Truth or on the Censor. And here and there, there are only Russophobes and Putin-haters. And now, this shit is gone, but the forum has really become patriotic, and was about 10 years ago.
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 24 March 2022 09: 20
                0
                I completely agree with you, Ilya! hi
          2. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 23 March 2022 20: 54
            +9
            Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
            we will buy everything we need for the euro

            We won't buy. In the European Union, almost everything is on the list of prohibited items for sale in the Russian Federation. And exactly what we really need.
            The introduction of the ruble into circulation is a strong move, but does not solve the problem.
            The next step will be moving to barter in trade with the EU.
            The principle is simple: What do you need? Gas, oil, fertilizer, nickel, palladium, etc.? Please! Here is a list of what we need. The principle of offset is simple, for the amount delivered to us in advance, we deliver what you need. If you are stupid with the supply of what we need, we will screw the valve.
            1. January
              January 23 March 2022 21: 03
              +12
              "Pipes in exchange for gas"
              Somewhere this was already 50 years ago ...
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 23 March 2022 22: 15
                +4
                Quote: ian
                "Pipes in exchange for gas"
                Somewhere this was already 50 years ago ...

                It was, but then Europe still had the opportunity to demonstrate its independence and was itself interested in the gas pipeline at the level of the first politicians, and not just at the business level. Now the picture is reversed, business is interested, but politicians are completely under the control of the United States. By the way, after these quirks with SP-2, Scholz has practically no chance of being re-elected for a second term as chancellor, but damn it, for three and a half years the Germans will have to freeze and feel their inferiority due to the colonial dependence on mattresses supported by Scholz. On the other hand, nothing heals the masses as much as excommunication from comfortable living, so let them freeze and buy a loaf of bread for the price of a kilogram of selected veal.
                1. January
                  January 23 March 2022 22: 23
                  +1
                  "three and a half years"
                  I think you are looking too far. Europeans are tolerant. I won’t be surprised if as soon as the United States “gets down a little” from them, they smile again and begin to be sincerely perplexed according to the standard “and we are for sho”. And they will offer pure human friendship. For discounts.
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 23 March 2022 22: 57
                    +4
                    Quote: ian
                    "three and a half years"
                    I think you are looking too far. Europeans are tolerant. I won’t be surprised if as soon as the United States “gets down a little” from them, they smile again and begin to be sincerely perplexed according to the standard “and we are for sho”. And they will offer pure human friendship. For discounts.

                    They will begin to smile by July-August, but we will see that Scholz will fly by with the Chancellor's repetition in 3,5 years. It seems to me that now Grandma Merkel crossed herself with two heels about the fact that all this did not fall during her reign. hi
              2. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 24 March 2022 03: 14
                +4
                Quote: ian
                "Pipes in exchange for gas"
                Somewhere this was already 50 years ago ...

                Probably here. drinks


                Well, to a heap...
                It is clear that the West "pipe".
          3. Popandos
            Popandos 23 March 2022 21: 31
            +3
            these Euro sanctions will not be imposed.

            This decision has another huge plus, for Gazprom now a strong ruble exchange rate is more profitable, which means that this company will also play on the ruble appreciation on the stock exchange.
          4. The Tambov wolf is not a comrade for everyone.
            +1
            Convertible ruble, we like it. situation in a fashion store in Paris: How much does this suit cost? ; This costume costs 25 thousand conditional rubles....
          5. Siberian54
            Siberian54 24 March 2022 19: 48
            0
            And why does the Russian Federation need the cut paper of countries that have actually declared a technical default towards us by refusing to accept their waste paper from us? America and allowed them to be cloned!
      2. Carat
        Carat 23 March 2022 19: 33
        +1
        Quote: NIKNN
        And she was? Fashion for Ukraine,


        She is still there. Not a single meeting in Europe passes without discussing Ukraine.
        1. Romario Argo
          Romario Argo 23 March 2022 20: 32
          +5
          She is still there. In Holland, on the red-light district and, until recently, on Tverskaya in Moscow
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 March 2022 19: 40
        +9
        Quote: NIKNN
        And she was? Fashion for Ukraine,

        Fashion for Ukraine has always been, but not the one that Denisenko writes about. It began in the distant 13-14 centuries, when it was "fashionable" (although it was not called the outskirts) near the Principality of Lithuania, the Commonwealth, the Crimean khans and the Turkish sultans, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Charles XII and the Kaiser and fascist Germany, did not bypass Ukraine with their "fashion". Moreover, "their" hetmans, chieftains and "fathers" tore it to pieces. And one thing the native rulers did not understand now, that Ukraine, only as part of the Russian Empire and the USSR, was a self-sufficient state with its own culture, religion and identity. Ukraine will never become Europe, it is not of the same blood, it will be accepted into Europe, on the conditions on which I described above.
        Well, if you don't believe me, then read Taras Shevchenko and the historian Kostomarov. Mothers and wives, look at who your husbands, sons and daughters work for, maybe a woman's feeling will tell you about the European "fashion".
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 23 March 2022 20: 00
          +5
          hi So what, in Hamburg on the Riperrbahn, services can now be paid in rubles? drinks
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 March 2022 20: 04
            +1
            Quote: tralflot1832
            So what, in Hamburg on the Riperrbahn, services can now be paid in rubles?

            And in Rotterdam and Antwerp, "teams" set prices in rubles, an hour is 100 rubles.
          2. SSR
            SSR 23 March 2022 20: 10
            +4
            [media=https://yandex.ru/video/touch/preview/15705398639784438485]
            Quote: tralflot1832
            hi So what, in Hamburg on the Riperrbahn, services can now be paid in rubles? drinks

            Yes. For one ruble, three services at once. Min no, coffee and cigar in bed. ))

            https://yandex.ru/video/touch/preview/15705398639784438485

            PS administrators. Imha.
            Delete the extremist link to YouTube and change it to VK and more.
            All the same, we cannot "scoop" from YouTube.
          3. January
            January 23 March 2022 22: 58
            +2
            No. Immediately gassed laughing
          4. Woodman
            Woodman 24 March 2022 00: 27
            +6
            Quote: tralflot1832
            in Hamburg on the Reeperbahn services can now be paid in rubles?

            The joke came to mind after your comment:
            "Barack Obama dies. After 10 years he becomes bored, and he asks God to let him go to Earth to see how his country is doing. God lets go.
            Obama in New York comes to the bar, orders a beer and asks the bartender how the country is doing, how it is developing, what problems it solves.
            The barman is surprised:
            - What problems can be? We are a great empire, everything around us.
            - How is ours? And Iraq, Afghanistan?
            - Yes, everything is already ours!
            - And Europe, Africa, the Middle East?
            The bartender takes out a globe from under the rack and twists it proudly:
            - I say - we are an empire, the whole world belongs to us!
            Obama, joyful, proud and contented, finishes his beer and says:
            - Well, thanks, friend! How much do I have to pay?
            Bartender:
            - One ruble and twenty kopecks ... "
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 23 March 2022 19: 34
      0
      I wonder if the central bank will have enough rubles if, apart from gas, everything that Russia used to sell for dollars and euros will be bought for rubles???
      1. ChoroKyrgyz
        ChoroKyrgyz 23 March 2022 20: 17
        +3
        Not enough so print the Central Bank)
      2. yustas
        yustas 24 March 2022 05: 18
        0
        And these are no longer our problems, for those who do not have enough, the market will decide then wink
    3. max702
      max702 23 March 2022 19: 38
      +1
      Denisenko:

      Estimated volumes for 2023 are 400 billion euros, based on current gas prices. And Europe will have to transfer this huge amount of money into rubles and pay Russia, because neither this nor next year will it be able to refuse Russian gas supplies.

      Hmm, considering that we supply about 200 billion cubic meters to Europe, does the dill expert predict the price of gas in 2023 at 2 euros per cubic meter or more? Or +2000 euros for 1000 cubic meters? Charming!!
    4. Romario Argo
      Romario Argo 23 March 2022 20: 26
      0
      BRAVO. AND NOTHING TO ADD
    5. Maz
      Maz 23 March 2022 20: 32
      +4
      Brilliant move, boavo Vladimir Vladimirovich !!! Respect and Respect!!! I applaud!
    6. Vend
      Vend 24 March 2022 10: 21
      0
      What happens next, he will figure it out later.
      I think our specialists have already calculated what will happen next.
  2. Sailor
    Sailor 23 March 2022 19: 07
    +17
    Damn seer. This is only the first real step on the long path of our counter-sanctions, at least our capabilities, such as the transition to spot prices, rather than contract prices with enemies.
    1. Carat
      Carat 23 March 2022 19: 16
      +1
      Quote: Sailor
      it is still only the first real step on the long path of our counter-sanctions, at least our capabilities, like switching to spot prices, not contract prices with enemies.

      We have Gazprom against spot sales, but with both hands for contract sales.
      1. your1970
        your1970 23 March 2022 19: 31
        +17
        Quote: Sailor
        switching to spot prices,

        Quote: Carat
        naz Gazprom against spot sales

        Gazprom for a long time (two years already), by the decision of the Arbitration, switched to spot prices in trade with a number of countries. Poland definitely got stuck - they whined, they say, let's go back to the contract, and ours waved the court decision and smiled maliciously ...
        I don't remember the rest
        1. Carat
          Carat 23 March 2022 19: 36
          +4
          Quote: your1970
          Poland definitely got stuck - they whined, they say, let's go back to the contract, and ours waved the court's decision and smiled maliciously ..


          With whom, like Hungary, they recently signed a contract for 20 years.
          1. your1970
            your1970 23 March 2022 20: 27
            +6
            Quote: Carat
            Quote: your1970
            Poland definitely got stuck - they whined, they say, let's go back to the contract, and ours waved the court's decision and smiled maliciously ..


            With whom, like Hungary, they recently signed a contract for 20 years.

            The Hungarians never wanted a spot and the contract was extended after the expiration of the previous one for 15 years.
        2. PAUL 7
          PAUL 7 23 March 2022 20: 49
          +1
          Also Bulgaria. are now fighting
  3. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 23 March 2022 19: 08
    +21
    Russia had an excellent chance to rise. Now we must not miss it and use it to the fullest of the opportunity.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 23 March 2022 19: 17
      +5
      The main thing is that the fifth column does not mess up ..
      1. Carat
        Carat 23 March 2022 19: 28
        +2
        And how can she play a dirty trick in this situation? Or do you mean liberals in power?
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      2. SF127
        SF127 23 March 2022 19: 35
        +7
        Chubais has already "retired himself"
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 23 March 2022 20: 46
          +5
          Quote: SF127
          Chubais has already "retired himself"

          Go on "illness", t.s. the guy "burned out" at the "production", maybe he will go to lecture on macroeconomics at the Higher School of Economics .... "great" mind man, such a loss ...
          1. Carat
            Carat 23 March 2022 21: 02
            +3
            Quote: Lara Croft
            maybe he’ll go lecture on macroeconomics at the Higher School of Economics


            So he seems to have already left Russia
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 23 March 2022 21: 11
              +4
              Quote: Carat
              So he seems to have already left Russia

              Ice ax knows no boundaries....
      3. SSR
        SSR 23 March 2022 20: 18
        +15
        Quote: Nexcom
        The main thing is that the fifth column does not mess up ..

        A horse, an urgant, a grandmother, a grandmother's jackdaw, even a chubas disappeared ..... there is a chance.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 23 March 2022 20: 32
          +8
          Holy, holy - so as not to jinx ... hi

          PS Well, if Red has merged - then this is already an indicator for sure .... Especially considering its "dichlorvo resistance"
      4. Romario Argo
        Romario Argo 23 March 2022 20: 36
        +1
        5 column has already moved out. Leaders first.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 23 March 2022 20: 40
          +3
          Not all yet. The infantrymen - did not fall down, fell silent. They just don't have that much money to throw away. That's why they quieted down until "better" times.
    2. Carat
      Carat 23 March 2022 19: 21
      +5
      Quote: SKVichyakow
      Russia had an excellent chance to rise. Now we must not miss it and use it to the fullest of the opportunity.


      The main thing is not to stop there. Move away from SWIFT to our analogue of SPFS (financial messaging system). Expand the ruble zone by transferring other goods to ruble payment, etc.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 23 March 2022 19: 55
      -24
      Quote: SKVichyakow
      Russia had an excellent chance to rise.

      Oh damn. Yes, no matter how they knocked from the bottom.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 23 March 2022 20: 28
        +9
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        no matter how they knocked from the bottom.

        Do not pass off personal problems for the real state of affairs. yes bully
      2. Romario Argo
        Romario Argo 23 March 2022 20: 38
        +2
        My ancestors are also from the Mordvins. Let's cross the photo
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 23 March 2022 21: 09
          -5
          Quote: Romario Argo
          Let's cross photo

          Hold on!
  4. igaivoro
    igaivoro 23 March 2022 19: 09
    +8
    Yes, it's just a holiday! ))))
  5. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 23 March 2022 19: 15
    +8
    It will be difficult, not easy. But this is the only and necessary STEP!
    1. SSR
      SSR 23 March 2022 20: 20
      +5
      Quote: Alex Nevs
      It will be difficult, not easy. But this is the only and necessary STEP!

      It's called simply.
      Sovereignty.
      We are on our own, we don't give a damn, we introduce rules ourselves and say how everyone should live.
  6. January
    January 23 March 2022 19: 16
    +5
    Well what to say.
    "Mice cried, pricked, but continued to eat cacti..."
  7. Astra55
    Astra55 23 March 2022 19: 17
    +13
    Couldn't this have been done before? To pay for gas, oil, timber in rubles?
    GDP, in my opinion, our entire "economic block" was reset to zero with one phrase.
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    2. your1970
      your1970 23 March 2022 20: 31
      +2
      Quote: Astra55
      Couldn't this have been done before?

      We now have big problems with the currency, we cannot pay it off. that's why it happened.
      Forced step.
      Now, in order to buy something there - it will be necessary to persuade the payer for gas - to transfer money to the seller we need.
      And there will be losses on courses and commissions
    3. Romario Argo
      Romario Argo 23 March 2022 20: 41
      +1
      Every product has its time. Road spoon to dinner. Revenge is served cold
  8. Elephant
    Elephant 23 March 2022 19: 21
    0
    I believe that the previously concluded contracts stipulate the name of the currency when paying for energy. Payment for rubles can be specified in new contracts
    1. PAUL 7
      PAUL 7 23 March 2022 20: 57
      +5
      And it's already been explained. If you don't want, don't buy. It's basically an ultimatum. And they will have to remove sanctions from banks. And from the Bank of Russia.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 23 March 2022 22: 06
      +3
      Quote: Elephant
      I believe that the previously concluded contracts stipulate the name of the currency when paying for energy. Payment for rubles can be specified in new contracts

      Not at all. Payment for rubles may be specified in additional agreements to existing contracts. Well, if they don’t want to sign additional agreements, we will turn off the gas ...
  9. Gogol
    Gogol 23 March 2022 19: 26
    +2
    It is hard to believe that this is said by a high-ranking person from Ukraine...
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 23 March 2022 22: 12
      +1
      Quote from gogol
      It is hard to believe that this is said by a high-ranking person from Ukraine...

      Get used to it ....
      The EU and the USA will still come back to haunt the deception of Ukrainians .... revenge will be terrible ...., and her sisters Belarus and the Russian Federation will help Ukraine ...
  10. kventinasd
    kventinasd 23 March 2022 19: 26
    +17
    the situation for the European Union in this regard is actually a dead end

    Yes, something like that! tongue
  11. Fgup
    Fgup 23 March 2022 19: 29
    +6
    And now also for uranium?
  12. ZeeD
    ZeeD 23 March 2022 19: 30
    +2
    Surprisingly reasonable rating...
    1. kventinasd
      kventinasd 23 March 2022 19: 36
      +7
      Here is still Yuri correctly outlined everything.
  13. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 23 March 2022 19: 30
    +2
    Gas from Russia - buy for rubles good , do not want... sad
    Buy LNG for US$ bully
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 23 March 2022 19: 31
    +2
    According to the Ukrainian expert, while such geopolitical and economic shifts are taking place, Ukraine can simply be forgotten, Ukraine "will go out of geopolitical fashion."
    . In modern times, these are seditious thoughts, zrada in statements. Let him sit and wait, now, when they come to him. The SBU needs to carry out the plan for the caught zradniks.
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    1. Romario Argo
      Romario Argo 23 March 2022 20: 43
      0
      So this is about the USA. But how insightful
  16. sheet
    sheet 23 March 2022 19: 35
    0
    What happens next, he will figure it out later.

    It seems to me that he knows perfectly well what will happen next. Everything that is happening today is the result of the US and NATO's response in January to Russia's security guarantees.
  17. d ^ Amir
    d ^ Amir 23 March 2022 19: 36
    +4
    That is, the entire built-in exchange system, rating agencies, etc. it all went down the drain, we are waiting for a reaction
    1. kventinasd
      kventinasd 23 March 2022 19: 47
      +1
      Quote: d ^ Amir
      waiting for a reaction

      Already : "Austrian OMW refused to pay Russia for gas in rubles"
      Austrian OMV will continue to pay for Russian gas in euros, there is no other contractual basis. This was stated by the head of the company, Alfred Stern, in an interview with the PULS24 TV channel, RIA Novosti reports.
      1. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir 23 March 2022 19: 50
        +1
        Good luck in the markets, our production will certainly fall, it will take a lot of time to redirect flows, and by the way - did the Turks say anything ??
        1. Kotofeich
          Kotofeich 23 March 2022 20: 18
          +2
          And the Turks are unfriendly, right?
          1. d ^ Amir
            d ^ Amir 23 March 2022 20: 19
            +1
            So I’m talking about it, they’re sitting gesheft, probably guessing
      2. d ^ Amir
        d ^ Amir 23 March 2022 20: 04
        +1
        Yours faithfully - and Austria has got to the list of the unfriendly countries??? If not, then this innovation on payment in rubles does not concern them, but one thing, they will have to ship their euros at the border with suitcases, although Raiffeisen seems to have not gone anywhere, it works
        1. Storog dvornik
          Storog dvornik 23 March 2022 20: 25
          +2
          Turkey did not impose sanctions, but Austria did, therefore for Vienna in rubles, but for Ankara everything is the same as before ... x.z. how...
          1. d ^ Amir
            d ^ Amir 23 March 2022 20: 26
            +1
            There now Sabantuy with bayram
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  19. alystan
    alystan 23 March 2022 19: 41
    -4
    Who asked you for your advice, adviser of internal (not external) affairs.
  20. stels_07
    stels_07 23 March 2022 20: 04
    -8
    Leaving 300 billion dollars. in captivity is this a very tricky move?
    1. Repellent
      Repellent 23 March 2022 20: 26
      +3
      Quote: stels_07
      Leaving 300 billion dollars. in captivity is this a very tricky move?

      Not tired of this hat yet?

      These 300 lards lay (and lie) as a pledge of return loans already taken.

      Not so long ago, $117 bln of interest was paid out of these funds. Learn materiel.
      1. stels_07
        stels_07 23 March 2022 21: 45
        -3
        You seem to be with Nabiulina and Siluanov, you read the same textbooks laughing
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 23 March 2022 21: 47
          -3
          Well, you, it seems, except on the fence, did not read anything at all laughing

          Do you have anything to say about the case, trololo?
          1. stels_07
            stels_07 23 March 2022 21: 50
            -2
            Chat with your arrogance
            1. Repellent
              Repellent 23 March 2022 21: 54
              -2
              That is, in fact - there is nothing ... why are you climbing then, for hot people? wink
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 23 March 2022 20: 33
      +2
      Quote: stels_07
      300 billion dollars in captivity is this a very tricky move?

      - Boy, what's your name?
      - ......
      - Boy, are you a brake?
      - Kolya
      - What do you want to be when you grow up?
      - I'm not a brake...

      bully
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 23 March 2022 20: 41
        -4
        Quote: Paranoid50
        - Boy, are you a brake?

        - And I'm an eggplant!!!
        - Boy, you're a dick!! First comes the tomato!

        laughing laughing laughing
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 23 March 2022 21: 25
          -6
          Quote: Repellent
          Boy, you're dumb!! First comes the tomato!

          Roman Batkovich, don't make yourself an idiot.
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 24 March 2022 00: 55
            +2
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            don't make yourself an idiot.

            Vova! They piled you with a sluggish keldysh yes
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 01: 30
              -6
              [quote = Ruslan67] Vova! They piled you with a sluggish keldysh.
              Ruslan... don't make an idiot out of yourself.
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 24 March 2022 01: 33
                +3
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                don't pretend to be

                Judging by the comments, you've been making a lot of money lately. sad Take off your helmet once in a while to keep your head cool.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 01: 41
                  -6
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Judging by the comments, you've been making a lot of money lately.

                  Yes, I've made a lot of money...
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 24 March 2022 01: 43
                    +4
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    I made a lot of money...

                    When are you ready to go to work and start earning?
      2. PAUL 7
        PAUL 7 23 March 2022 21: 09
        -4
        Yeah. I even chose my own nickname.
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 23 March 2022 21: 51
          +1
          Quote: PAUL 7
          Yeah. And even chose a nickname for himself

          Quote: Chekhov, "Complaint book"
          "I ask you not to write extraneous things in the complaint book. For the head of the station, Ivanov 7th."
          "Even though you are the seventh, you are a fool."

          Nothing personal, blown by the wind request
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 01: 51
            -5
            Quote: Repellent
            blown by the wind

            Roman Batkovich, stop mocking me.
  21. XNUMX%
    XNUMX% 23 March 2022 20: 09
    0
    A sign of the modern type of "European": ... when the gas runs out, the head turns off, and the tongue ... starts grinding such nonsense - just turn off the lights! .. And green energy, and methane from manure, and ... we will all switch to bicycles and so much more nonsense can be heard that it is better not to listen at all.
    I’m still waiting for them to start wearing coats at home, ... however, just raising prices is not enough for this, but it’s not long to wait bully
  22. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 March 2022 20: 24
    0
    Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine: Europeans will have to accept Putin's condition and buy gas for rubles
    belay Where is the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine and where is the EU with Russian gas? Yeah, even in VO there is no adequate wording of the news. Although everything is very clear. fool
    The assessment of the situation is given by the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Head of UIB (Ukrainian Institute for the Future) Vadim Denisenko.
    The opinion is given not of an adviser to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but the opinion of the head of the PEB! fool
  23. t-4
    t-4 23 March 2022 20: 26
    +8
    Well, for the ruble, gentlemen, Europeans.
  24. GREG68
    GREG68 23 March 2022 20: 29
    +1
    Kapets Denisenko. praised Putin. The SBU has already left.
  25. Qiman Kyrivo
    Qiman Kyrivo 23 March 2022 20: 33
    0
    Chubais left Russia.
  26. Puper driver
    Puper driver 23 March 2022 20: 52
    +1
    It's time for a major change. But Slavic blood is shed again. When, we will play pre-emptively, and not solve the situation after the fact, again with blood.
  27. Timofei Sergeevich
    Timofei Sergeevich 23 March 2022 22: 16
    +1
    Hey Putin...!!! fellow
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 24 March 2022 01: 01
      -4
      Quote: Timofey Sergeevich
      Hey Putin...!!!

      Oh yes, well done!
  28. Grigory b
    Grigory b 23 March 2022 22: 53
    0
    Well, where will they go from the submarine.
  29. t-4
    t-4 23 March 2022 23: 24
    +7
    State Corporation "Roscosmos" is switching to payments in rubles when concluding new contracts, said its head Dmitry Rogozin.
  30. faterdom
    faterdom 23 March 2022 23: 41
    0
    Worries in vain: for example, we will definitely not forget about Ukraine.
    But Macron, if he wins the elections, for example, yes, Ukraine will remain an extremely unpleasant memory for him ...
  31. Ax Matt
    Ax Matt 24 March 2022 00: 07
    0
    The power of mind and will is respected even by opponents.
  32. Daverk
    Daverk 24 March 2022 00: 07
    0
    I would like, I really want to hope that after these conditional 3 years we will find something else that can be sold for rubles, and then ...
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 24 March 2022 00: 57
      0
      Quote: Daverk
      I really hope that after these conditional 3 years we will find something else that can be sold for rubles,

      uranium usa yes Just change the delivery method to the consumer laughing
  33. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 24 March 2022 04: 15
    0
    ... The delights of the Krajina language are wonderful .... "the head of the UIB (Ukrainian Institute of the Future)" © UIB A (academy) N (auk)?
  34. sgr291158
    sgr291158 24 March 2022 08: 22
    +1
    Now let them sell us planes, spare parts for rubles, and pay with these rubles.
  35. Kopvin
    Kopvin 24 March 2022 08: 46
    0
    Let's say they begged for so long, so they begged ...
    Frozen Europe
    And do not “swing” your rights!
    You are with RUSSIA - just w *
    And you think that the head.
    You always, so imposing,
    The smirk twisted his mouth ...
    But are bastards corrupt
    Known for the truth of flight ???
    Having smeared the snout in chocolate,
    Steering chic Mercedes -
    You do not know: what "reward"
    The demon is pushing you!
    So, while steering wheels
    While in Russia, the trouble ...
    But know: trouble is already knocking!
    Your last beat is dull ...
    Vladimir Grigorievich Sablin
  36. with a bomb
    with a bomb 24 March 2022 09: 51
    -1
    this is the new Putin
  37. Vyacheslav_6
    Vyacheslav_6 24 March 2022 12: 31
    0
    To begin with, let them buy rubles for gold.
  38. Pavel57
    Pavel57 24 March 2022 19: 48
    0
    So far, I do not understand the mechanism for selling rubles. Where and how will it take place? So that it does not happen that we buy currency, and it is stored in a bank, where it can be taken away from us.
    1. agond
      agond 24 March 2022 20: 23
      0
      Settlements in rubles are a completely logical move, this could have been done a long time ago, the mechanism is simple, the Central Bank determines the price of the ruble during sales, this price can differ greatly from the prevailing exchange rate, the purchasing power of the ruble inside Russia will probably be compared with the purchasing power of the euro inside Europe and after the exchange rate is formed by calculation, for us this price will be more profitable, since there is no reason to underestimate the price of the ruble, and then the factor of excessive demand will leave the price of the euro and its price will be more objective.
  39. Pavel57
    Pavel57 24 March 2022 23: 34
    0
    Determine the value of the ruble a second time, at least by the borscht index.

    The main thing, I see, is not to mess with the proceeds of the currency.
  40. Sergei Mikhailovich A
    Sergei Mikhailovich A 25 March 2022 08: 23
    -1
    We will put the whole geyropu, led by the lgbt usa, with cancer, but they will fuck themselves, they are no strangers!
  41. Dedok
    Dedok 25 March 2022 10: 37
    0
    today the West refuses to pay in rubles, now we are waiting for an answer from our side
    if we can force them to make such a payment, then it will be a big plus for the situation in ukraine
    in general, we have all the prerequisites for "cleansing" state structures (and not only them) from strangers