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Welcome from WTO?

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Russia may withdraw from the World Trade Organization. What kind of idea is this - the nonsense of the madmen from the Just Russia faction or a trial balloon? After all, at Zhirinovsky, for example, in the State Duma they ran in and not like that. Let's try to figure out if this makes any sense at all.

Today it is fashionable to blame Russia for all sins, and at the same time to exclude it from wherever possible. We have already written how “square” turned out to be outside the brackets (Independent outside brackets), whose inhabitants Europe simply could not wait to receive with open arms. However, following this out of the brackets Russia turns out to be somehow bad.



G-7, Council of Europe, some parliamentary assembly or another UN will try? You can, of course, ban sports and culture, even cancel the Russian language somewhere in your country, but there’s nowhere else to go. Russia has shown its ability to resist, the ability to act preventively, and now it seems to be for a long time, perhaps forever.

After the hot confrontation, there will certainly be peace, most likely, interspersed with excesses, which suits our geostrategic opponents quite well. Unfriendly countries, as we have now written them down, by all indications only hurried us with integration in order to get one more satellite.

Obedient already because he was bound hand and foot by rules, in the writing of which he could not participate by definition. This is the fundamental difference not only from the WTO - the World Trade Organization and a number of international parties, from the same UN or, for example, the IAEA.

In practice, it turned out that those very “rules of the game” are regularly used according to the well-known principle of the Italian mafia: friends - everything, the rest - the law. And it was set that way from the very beginning.

Readers have the right to ask, but what about the many years of bargaining before the entry, which was conducted by Russia? Firstly, he only created the impression that they met us halfway and provided us with a fairly high status. Clearly higher than the one that would really correspond to the then state of the Russian economy.

Nobody except us?


As a result, having assumed a lot of restrictions, Russia did not open all the markets for itself, primarily in developed countries, and received practically nothing in return. More precisely - in fact, she was forced to open wide the doors to her own market.

We have the negative consequences of such decisions now, and the notorious structural changes in the economy are still nothing more than a dream, it is no coincidence that the president once again spoke about them. Distortions in sectors have not gone away either, the process of de-industrialization, seemingly suspended, has simply taken on other forms.

Instead of relying on the most advanced of the industries, Russia was squeezed out into the list of countries most suitable in terms of locating screwdriver industries. In terms of raw materials, our enterprises, as a rule, are allowed only primary processing, and even the relatively successful agricultural sector, and it is precisely with the WTO, is addicted to imports.

The strongest incentive to turn the Russian industry into a real hostage of foreign regulators was the vicious practice of bringing Russian tariffs to the standards of the World Trade Organization.

This not only hits the pockets of domestic consumers and permanently whips up inflation, but also puts Russian industry, as well as agriculture, in non-competitive conditions. At the same time, there have been almost no real attempts to use at least what the WTO rules allow for Russia during its membership.

Why? It is better to ask those who are responsible for interaction with the WTO. No, there were individual cases, and even very revealing ones, but if only in favor of specific enterprises of one of the specific oligarchs.

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When joining the WTO, which happened only nine years ago, we were assured that

"Russia cannot stand aside from the processes of economic globalization, remaining on the sidelines of world progress."

It's from a government memorandum.


Has anything improved since then? And this question should also be asked to the same characters. The answers will definitely not be intelligible - gentlemen officials know how to blur along the tree.

Back in 2013, the Russian share in world exports reached 2,8%, which is not bad at all given our comparable contribution to world GDP. But by 2017, primarily due to sanctions pressure, it had dropped to 2,0%. And no WTO norms, like membership itself, have protected us from anything.

Although we received and receive regularly from the same WTO regarding the retaliatory food embargo. And duties, and fines, and also sanctions. And if Russia has some serious achievements in recent years, then certainly not thanks to support from the WTO.

But contrary to this, you are welcome, as much as you like, although many infrastructure projects, in addition to the Crimean bridge, should have been implemented much earlier. The same second branch of BAM would be very useful now. That is why the unexpected initiative of A Just Russia to leave the organization seems very constructive to the author.

Arguments like that without WTO membership Russia will not be able to sell industrial products are weakly convincing. What we can really offer for export will be torn off with hands, especially in third world countries. The rest will come in handy.

Who is behind us?


Russia, let's not flatter ourselves, in many areas is still very far from the notorious industrialization 2.0. But the domestic market is far from oversaturated with simply vital industrial products. Until recently, he was busy with imports, but now he may well free himself.

Niches for domestic producers that have not yet been completely destroyed by the “WTO rules” can open up very widely, or they can only open up a little. It all depends on the political will in the first place. It exists, and there is no doubt about it, if only the bureaucracy - "integrators" and "globalists" do not blur it out.

Prior to recent events, the share of equipment and vehicles in the composition of imports to the Russian Federation reached 45-47%. It is clear that they will continue to supply something to us, something will be replaced, but there is a real opportunity to close almost half of such a niche by ourselves.

Russia's exit from the WTO will not be a blow to anyone, except for this office itself. But the domino effect, when partners in the EAEU and a number of countries that, due to membership in the organization, fell under outright discrimination, immediately follow Russia, is very likely.

And let them scare us with the danger of losing markets, while remaining in the WTO, you can forever remain in the role of a raw materials appendage with missiles. Forget about industrialization, which they have already tried to replace with screwdriver "candle" factories, thereby covering up impudent protectionism.

Focusing first of all on your own domestic market, you can not only get off the oil needle, but also get rid of dollar dependence. And at the same time, to remain an economic leader, both in the regional segment and in the industry - such plans as curtailing the nuclear or space industry, as Yabloko and DemRussia did in the 90s, can no longer be offered to us.
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  1. +21
    28 March 2022 14: 18
    And let them scare us with the danger of losing markets, while remaining in the WTO, you can forever remain in the role of a raw materials appendage with missiles.

    The West has not opened its markets to Russia anyway, and vice versa, it has opened its own. But you can do without Snickers and Tampex, but Europe is somehow inconvenient without gas.
    1. +13
      28 March 2022 14: 25
      Quote: tihonmarine
      And let them scare us with the danger of losing markets, while remaining in the WTO, you can forever remain in the role of a raw materials appendage with missiles.

      The West has not opened its markets to Russia anyway, and vice versa, it has opened its own. But you can do without Snickers and Tampex, but Europe is somehow inconvenient without gas.

      Joint ventures withdraw the bulk of their capital abroad, and do not leave it in Russia. Moreover, foreign enterprises buy shares of Russian enterprises and hinder their development. Thus, apart from taxes, Western goods and jobs, Russia has nothing.
      1. +8
        28 March 2022 14: 36
        Вset foot?
        Тnow
        Оbro!
        1. +7
          28 March 2022 14: 42
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          Have you joined?
          Now
          Back!

          And run from there, run!
    2. +6
      28 March 2022 14: 39
      Getting involved in dubious cases is over. There is no point in appeasing Western freaks anymore. Spit in their faces!
      1. +8
        28 March 2022 14: 46
        Quote: Alien From
        Spit in their faces!

        And a candelabra on it is even better, but with a guy line so that it sticks well.
      2. +10
        28 March 2022 15: 23
        Getting involved in dubious cases is over. There is no point in appeasing Western freaks anymore. Spit in their faces!
        You forgot that the Russian Federation joined the WTO itself and voluntarily, which means with the goodwill of the authorities and the poorly concealed joy of the oligarchs. Profits have increased for them, while the purchasing power of wages has decreased for us. In my opinion, only Georgia resisted to the last, the entry of the Russian Federation into the WTO. But she was thwarted. So, both EdRo and GDP knew perfectly well what WTO membership would turn out for the Russian Federation, but they went for it. It will be beneficial for them, the Russian Federation will leave the WTO, it will be unprofitable (in terms of money), it will not come out. And arguments about the benefits for the country are simply hypocritical, because. everything was known from the beginning.
        1. +1
          28 March 2022 15: 29
          I don’t even want to remember how many “useful and democratic” organizations the “partners” imposed on us to send them in three letters!
    3. +5
      28 March 2022 14: 39
      "Russia cannot stand aside from the processes of economic globalization, remaining on the sidelines of world progress" A utopian statement such a scheme can exist only in a utopian society without any conflicts and interests. Another way to drag the country into their understanding of the economy of the entire planet. Greed is boundless and it all hinders the development of some for the sake of the temporary comfort of others.
    4. +3
      28 March 2022 14: 43
      Quote: tihonmarine
      But you can do without Snickers and Tampex,

      And a replacement for this, like many other things, can be done without much cost.
      1. -2
        28 March 2022 15: 06
        Quote: Egoza
        And a replacement for this, like many other things, can be done without much cost.

        Will not work. It's pretty sophisticated equipment. If only analogues of tampax are manually rolled up and pseudo-sneakers are wrapped in paper wrappers.
        1. -2
          28 March 2022 18: 49
          "It won't work. The equipment is quite sophisticated."
          does it mean that we can make rockets, we can build nuclear reactors, but tampax is complex equipment?
          1. 0
            28 March 2022 19: 02
            Quote: aglet
            does it mean that we can make rockets, we can build nuclear reactors, but tampax is complex equipment?

            Missiles with reactors of millions of pieces a year are not produced.
            I saw a conveyor for rolling Snickers and similar sticky products into a wrapper, that's why I'm writing.
            1. -1
              28 March 2022 20: 43
              "I saw a conveyor for rolling Snickers and similar sticky products into a wrapper"
              and I saw a rotary line for the production of cartridges. but snickers is, of course, more difficult, what to say
              1. -2
                28 March 2022 22: 04
                Quote: aglet
                and I saw a rotary line for the production of cartridges. but snickers is, of course, more difficult, what to say

                And my neighbor, a gold medalist, designed these cartridge lines together with Koshkin, or Kotin, I don’t remember. In the 90s, he turned out to be useless to anyone, taught at the institute, then wandered around Moscow construction sites, earned osteochondrosis and disability with a pension of 5 thousand. He died 3 years ago, did not recover from pneumonia. Here it is, the current economy with social services, medicine, and useless constructors.
                1. -1
                  29 March 2022 13: 39
                  "And my neighbor, a gold medalist, designed these cartridge lines together with Koshkin, or Kotin"
                  your neighbor, even if he was at least three times a gold medalist, could not design cartridge lines with either a cat or a cat. and that one. and another, engaged in tanks, in the 40s of the last century
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                    1. -1
                      29 March 2022 19: 16
                      "Hold"
                      didn't know, didn't know. thanks
      2. -1
        28 March 2022 16: 51
        Quote: Egoza
        And a replacement for this, like many other things, can be done without much cost.

        Well, somehow they used to do without these hard-to-pronounce "devices", and now you can do without.
        I remember how small I was born, so while my wife was in the hospital, I sewed diapers from flannelettes and calico and trimmed the edges with lace, and made gauze diapers, and now give me “diapers”.
        1. 0
          28 March 2022 19: 37
          Quote: tihonmarine
          and made gauze diapers,

          And now they are releasing it, gauze?
          1. -1
            28 March 2022 19: 49
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            And now they are releasing it, gauze?

            I don’t know this, but in 1993 it was.
            1. +1
              28 March 2022 20: 20
              Quote: tihonmarine
              I don’t know this, but in 1993 it was.

              Haven't seen it for sale in years. And today's bandages do two or three times worse than before.
    5. +3
      28 March 2022 15: 55
      So it was meant to be. You open markets, all this Western crap flows there, and your own production goes into the furnace.
  2. +11
    28 March 2022 14: 18
    As a result, having assumed a lot of restrictions, Russia did not open all the markets for itself, primarily in developed countries, and received practically nothing in return. More precisely - in fact, she was forced to open wide the doors to her own market.
    The question is who entered and how ... what concessions did you have to make, and what did you get in return ???
    Won China squeezed out a lot for itself, therefore, now, it’s not particularly steamy !!!
  3. +2
    28 March 2022 14: 21
    Kudrin vs.
    1. +2
      28 March 2022 15: 17
      Kudrin vs.

      I think Chubais will have time to catch up.
    2. 0
      28 March 2022 15: 18
      "Yabloko" and DemRussia", we can no longer offer.

      Quote: mag nit
      Kudrin vs.

      Curly on a mandrake!
    3. 0
      28 March 2022 18: 57
      Kudrin is just for it - he is not running anywhere from the Accounts Chamber.
  4. +4
    28 March 2022 14: 21
    When joining the WTO, which happened only nine years ago, we were assured that
    I already once expressed the point of view that WTO accession was due to the upcoming confrontation with the West. For if the rules and norms of the WTO were observed, the imposition of sanctions against Russia would be impossible, and at that time there were no examples to the contrary. Now (although this was clear even after 2014), it is obvious that in the confrontation with the West, the bet on the WTO turned out to be meaningless. And that means we have nothing to do in the WTO.
  5. +2
    28 March 2022 14: 29
    Quote: rocket757
    As a result, having assumed a lot of restrictions, Russia did not open all the markets for itself, primarily in developed countries, and received practically nothing in return. More precisely - in fact, she was forced to open wide the doors to her own market.
    The question is who entered and how ... what concessions did you have to make, and what did you get in return ???
    Won China squeezed out a lot for itself, therefore, now, it’s not particularly steamy !!!

    If Russia had at least half of China's GDP, then it could squeeze out a lot. But as they say "if only yes if only", so as one of the Ukrainian presidents once remarked, "We have what we have!"
  6. +4
    28 March 2022 14: 30
    Somehow we lived without the WTO, I think, having left it, we will not lose anything from the word at all, but Western "partners" should think about raising prices for resources and products from Russia. The market of Southeast Asia, India and Pakistan is no less for us in terms of consumption volumes, and there is less money there, but at the same time, consumption volumes are much higher!
  7. +5
    28 March 2022 14: 30
    I, a sinful deed, considered the issue resolved, but it turns out that he didn’t even move from the dead center ...
  8. +3
    28 March 2022 14: 33
    They came in for steel-rollers, and the rest ... gnaw at hell! And we do not need such a WTO!!!
  9. +4
    28 March 2022 14: 36
    Russia may withdraw from the World Trade Organization. What kind of idea is this - the nonsense of the madmen from the Just Russia faction or a trial balloon?

    "I already have one present.
    - A very useful gift! You can put in it ... everything you want, you can put!
    - Perhaps, you can put my balloon in it?
    - No, just the balloons will not fit into such a polka dot. They are too big.
    - Others won't fit, but mine will! Look Piglet!
    - Oh, it goes out, that is, it enters! - Enter!
    - And it goes out ... and it comes in. It comes out wonderful!
    - And comes out, and comes in!
    It's good that I guessed to give you just such a suitable pot!
    - In which you can put such a suitable ball! "(C)
  10. sen
    +2
    28 March 2022 14: 55
    Although we received and receive regularly from the same WTO regarding the retaliatory food embargo.

    What did you want? The WTO is an instrument of Western pressure. The West controls many international organizations and there should be no illusions.
  11. -1
    28 March 2022 15: 20
    WTO-OUT!
    Give an independent trade and economic policy of Russia?
    Slogans-Slogans inspired by the SVO in Ukraine and sanctions with the rupture of relations with the West, the emotions of naive Russians are perhaps utopian and naive!
    It seems that the whole result of the current events around Ukraine and the Sanctions of events will not lead to the results that everyone sees for themselves.
    I believe that we still have many officials in the power structure who silently support the slogans of no war, covertly and silently wish all the bad things to Russia and Putin, simply because everything familiar and familiar from Russia is leaving and everything is changing.
    Those who were more resolute and more radical have already gone abroad!
    Someone on TV decided to paint on a poster an attitude towards Russia and its struggle ordered from outside, knowing about the current agreement with the foreign embassy that this lady is already expected abroad and she will have time to escape and settle down there (naive!).
    In any case, for all these years the WTO has done nothing for Russia. There was an endless pumping of resources from Russia in exchange for green papers and electronic money, which that side has the right and can print an infinite amount.
    Even the transfer of gas supplies and other things for rubles, in fact, does not change anything, because. the procedure for exchanging everything for the same dirty green papers is simply changing, only on the Moscow Exchange, where earlier monopolists exchanged rubles for dollars and euros.
    There are no illusions when the government (I'm not saying that everyone in power is bad or liberal, or wishing us harm) in its predominant content consists of a number of so far silent officials who do not want the NVO and the country to win and prosper, but who eventually strive to run away or return everything as it was before 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX.
  12. 0
    28 March 2022 16: 13
    We gave in too much. We forgot about continuity in spiritual and economic life. Civil aircraft industry suddenly became unnecessary. And engine-building plants went under the knife. The quality of work in them could be changed, but nothing can be done on the ruins. Machine tool building. AU! Where is it? And this is not even the most important thing. Even in the most difficult times, the spirit of the people was raised by culture, which turned into a subculture. The people should know the plans for the future. So far they look vague.
  13. +1
    28 March 2022 17: 26
    IMHO, it's exactly the opposite in many ways.
    The WTO is our export oligarchs who could sell there without unnecessary duties and protection, and their suppliers - with us.

    Exporters of resources - it was super profitable. It is not for nothing that the GDP recently became concerned (and what next? has it already calmed down?) that they are making super profits and driving prices wildly up. Towers of Gazprom for a billion dollars in St. Petersburg - how do you like it, Elon Musk?

    But the opposite did not work out. WTO and filed a lawsuit that they are not allowed or clamped in the internal auction.
    Do you want to sell? - unfasten, and without a guarantee to the left ...

    And the conclusion: "Russia's exit for the WTO will not be a blow to anyone, except for this office itself..." is very strange. It is worth looking at the trade turnover between Europe and Russia, along with its gas, oil and titanium... Where is Russia?

    For them - a mosquito bite, especially now. For us, it is necessary to go out wisely, without "feasting during the plague", without running into lawsuits and seizures of property.
    And think in advance where we will buy the necessary things for the industry - electronics, bearings, machine tools, tools, consumables, etc.

    PS. Those who then entered the WTO are still in power, still rule as "effective managers." With what quality - you know.
    Only now they don’t take pictures in public with iPhones at the mirror, but the rhetoric is different ...
    1. -1
      28 March 2022 18: 55
      "And think in advance where we will be purchase necessary things for the industry - electronics, bearings, machine tools, tools, consumables, etc."
      do it yourself is unrealistic? won't we even try? everything you listed was successfully done in the USSR
      1. +1
        28 March 2022 19: 21
        Quote: aglet
        everything you listed was successfully done in the USSR

        I’m even afraid to imagine how much of what was done with success in the USSR was destroyed. Before the new year, I decided to buy a receiver, I was looking unsuccessfully for a Russian one, I had to take a Chinese one.
        1. +3
          28 March 2022 22: 14
          Yes. All sorts of variable production of microcircuits and other scientific and technological revolutions in Zelenograd managed to go bankrupt, suck money, and be a feeder, but there are still no electronics for 30 years.
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      3. +1
        28 March 2022 22: 11
        It takes time to get started. Build buildings, get equipment, set up a process, train staff, spend money on "effective managers" and their children in leadership.

        In the meantime, no - at least smuggling them.
    2. -3
      28 March 2022 19: 02
      "And think in advance where we will buy the necessary things for the industry - electronics, bearings, machine tools, tools, consumables, etc." Yes, we have already thought about making many ready-made enterprises, including the military-industrial complex, and the rest in Turkey, the CIS, Iran, India, Cambodia, Laos, China, Vietnam, and several dozen other countries.
      1. 0
        28 March 2022 19: 27
        Quote: Vadim237
        Vietnam

        And in the USSR from Vietnam, I only remember dried bananas, and bamboo fishing rods. From China - lanterns, yes thermoses. And nothing else. We've come.
  14. -2
    28 March 2022 20: 41
    The WTO did not give the opportunity to build a wide-body Il-96 in Russia, now all these bans are up to us.
    1. 0
      29 March 2022 13: 43
      "The WTO did not give the opportunity to build a wide-body Il-96 in Russia, now all these bans are a light bulb to us"
      but there is no one to build them, and nowhere
  15. 0
    29 March 2022 22: 26
    We simply lack 70,000,000 people to rely on our "own market" ... With the availability of raw materials, the country will be able to become self-sufficient and developing with a population of 200,000,000 to 240,000,000 and more (hence the independent civilizations of the USSR 240 million, USA 300 million, billions of China, India) and did not become the EU
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