Ukrainians are offered to prepare for a long and protracted war

Yuri Podolyaka

And a couple of weeks ago it all sounded a little different - "a couple of weeks and the Russian army will run."
She didn’t run, but the front slowly but surely moves to the West and to the north ...

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[Uncle lee]

the front is slowly but surely moving west and north…

"The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours"!

[Machito]

A protracted war is unlikely to succeed. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are confidently knocking out equipment, weapons depots and fuel and lubricants from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Assault rifle against aviation, drones, armored vehicles, artillery, etc. you won't get much. In any case, Eurofascists need to prepare for the land.

[rocket757]

Victory?
This is a big misfortune for all of us and it will have to be endured, reconsidered!
It is better, easier, if we all together restore what has been destroyed, build a new peaceful life.
I hope that application, with those who seek it, will help us all overcome our common misfortune.

[your1970]

Quote: rocket757

If everyone together Let's rebuild what's been destroyed

- many who want to go there - to restore together?

[rocket757]

And for you, to be all together, is it just to sit at one table and slurp from one pot?
Where did you study and what did you learn?
That's obviously, VERY BAD!!! so it is that now a lot is lost by the mother of the young, able-bodied part of the population of Ukraine!!! This will just affect everything, for a long time later ...
Factories can be rebuilt, and simply helped, many that are needed at first ... but the decline in production forces, this is serious, this is for a long time ... newcomers, a replacement is so-so, you need to build your own life, so it is much more valuable will.

[your1970]

Quote: rocket757

And for you, to be all together, is it just to sit at one table and slurp from one pot?

That is, based on Your his message - they are there in place themselves without us - we only give money?

Quote: rocket757

Factories can be rebuilt

You can .... the question is where to get the funds for this?
There will be no sowing campaign, there are no factories, the defense industry has been destroyed, tourism / customs / taxes are nonsense .....
Ukraine is now-a poor territory with a poor population for the next 5-7 years.
Last time, when restoring Ukraine, the money came from the budget of the USSR.
Now these funds will go from the budget of the Russian Federation - this is only option.
Whether the budget of the Russian Federation will also pull the pensions of Ukrainian pensioners, the salaries of doctors and teachers - I don’t know ...
Moreover, youth, as in the days of the USSR, cannot be fixed with a residence permit - they will simply leave

[rocket757]

How exactly it will be, we can only guess ... even with the ultimate goal / task of the military conflict, somehow everything is not entirely clear.
One thing is clear, there will be hard times for all of us and for a long time!
The only thing I want to convey / explain to everyone, if there is no application / cooperation between all of us, most of society, difficult times will be noticeably greater.
No one, seriously, will help, only we ourselves, together we can overcome all sorts of difficulties.
We will discuss particular, pressing problems later, when / if the war ends.

[Bayun]

There is one version... The West does not want the collapse of Russia! He wants people in Russia to live BAD and POOR. Most of the resource extraction - salaries. If people live poorly, wages are low and resources are cheap.

For 30 years, the authorities in Russia were in complete agreement with the West. And while there are no fundamental disagreements with the capitalist world order: the same world-eaters-oligarchs and no new person-ideas in power... I believe if the resource and industrial-important things are NATIONALIZED.

So, we believe in a miracle, but we live and live with common sense: "What was, will be."

[rocket757]

Capitalism, the ruling class takes care of itself even when it gives something back to the country, to the workers. Its essence cannot be changed, only demolished or scratched out, ripped out of them by little things, basically.
So far, how it will develop further ... then we will find out if we live.

[Cowbra]

Well, this is the goal for Ukraine No. 1 - to turn the war into a sluggish one, and it doesn’t matter at what point.

[sen]

Well, this is the goal for Ukraine No. 1 - to turn the war into a sluggish one, and it doesn’t matter at what point.

A protracted war in Ukraine for the West is a disruption of the sowing campaign and the departure of Ukraine as a supplier of food on the world market.

[Cowbra]

Not for the West, but for the USA))) Europe is a khan, but the USA will feed themselves. And the sowing campaign has been disrupted ALREADY - do you even understand that it is impossible to sow until everything is cleared of mines - and this is not a month at all?

[Blackmokona]

The EU is a major food exporter.

[Cowbra]

Swiss chocolates? Or ham? Well, if they don’t have enough bread - let them “eat cakes” (c) - they just have this experience

[Bolt cutter]

Sponsors from the EU will not pull long and protracted - neither the British nor the Germans (and even more so the French, where journalists still allow themselves to publish objective information) will endure millions of poor refugees and who have grown at all prices for the sake of freedom of Ukraine.

[Stils]

Even as they pull and become. European society is strong enough, not to mention the American one.
Only for some reason our propaganda constantly exposes them as weak waves. Especially America, an absolutely tough and cruel society, in this regard, we are up to them like the moon.

[Bolt cutter]

European society is strong enough

Only if you do not hit them in the pocket, they will not forgive this. How many years have you lived in Europe?

[Metlik]

I remember the Chechen war. First, ours win, then from above, from the United States, an order comes to stop. Everything is done so that the war lasts as long as possible.

[rocket757]

Ukrainians are offered to prepare for a long and protracted war

. The question is ... how are they going to survive all the time while the Kukuev power is striving to self-preserve or enrich itself to the maximum?
How is it not noticeable that the Kukuevites would show a lot of concern for their citizens? Yes, and foreign guardians somehow help one-sidedly? Or do we know nothing and caravans with humanitarian aid are coming from behind the hillock???

[host]

Quote: rocket757

Or do we know nothing and caravans with humanitarian aid are coming from behind the hillock???

Of course they come, in a perverted form in the form of weapons, helmets, armor, dry rations and first aid kits for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions.

[rocket757]

Over the hill sit the enemies of the entire Russian world.
It is not surprising that instead of life-giving moisture, they will splash gasoline into the fire.

[host]

One of the dim-witted bots has already run through the branch with minuses

[rocket757]

Come on, here the frantic ones are wiping themselves off from all sides ...
Senseless people, senseless deeds ... and then what, a senseless end!

[Comrade]

Quote: rocket757

but how are they going to survive all the time while the Kukuev power is striving to preserve itself or enrich itself to the maximum?

At grazing. There, many have small plots of land, either within the city, or a few tens of kilometers from the city. They are now the main hope.
There is no work, but I want to eat. So, take up the shovels.
But what they will do in the winter in their apartments is not clear. Gas storage facilities are empty, gas prices are exorbitant due to the efforts of the European Commission. There will be severe cold in the apartments, whoever is far-sighted should already be making a potbelly stove for himself.
It looks like a powerful wave of refugees will flood into Europe in the autumn, against which the current wave will fade. Who will be able to move, rush to the EU. There will be no wages, no food, no heat, no gas.

[rocket757]

In the fields, a lot of unexpected things can turn out ...
A villager can at least somehow live, and even then not everyone.
The city dweller is not adapted, not ready for self-sufficiency, the majority, at least.
I will add, out of nothing, only the weeds grow, and everything else does not immediately, and it is necessary to invest a lot of work, skills.

[svp67]

The longer they hold out, the less territory they'll hold...and the less they'll have at the end. And further. Remember what heavy battles went on for the cities of the north, center, east and south of Ukraine, in the same Civil and Great Patriotic War. Especially for the last ones. But there were no such battles for Lviv, the last time he held a siege in the 18th century against Charles 12, the rest of the time he prudently preferred to surrender

[fiv]

A long enough, but active, not sluggish, operation is in some ways for the better. Those who do not need to die in this war, those who were eager to fight out of thoughtlessness, but have seen enough, heard enough and decided to dump, will go abroad more. Those who are strongly against the Russian Federation will remain, their concentration will increase - which means that we will knock out the "core" of Nazi resistance and trained troops more.

[Vadmir]

The Russian army has not yet reached the main strategic goals - the main forces of Ukraine in the Donbass are not surrounded, Odessa is not only not taken, but not blocked either. So far, everything looks like a positional dead end. There is evidence that reserves are being pulled up and there is hope for new, powerful blows. But for now, it became obvious that the war would be long.
In terms of scope and involvement of forces, this is the largest war in the history of Russia since the Great Patriotic War. We still have strong hatred moods in our society, but this is a big war and it is worth getting ready for big losses, and for the use of conscripts in this war, and for limited mobilization. Yes, there will be victory, but this war has not become an easy walk.

[bairat]

Donetsk is still being shelled. Okay, rockets fly out of some hiding places, barrel artillery should have been suppressed a long time ago, back in February.

[sgrabik]

Probably, when this operation was being developed, it was not originally planned as an easy walk, our General Staff and military personnel must be prepared in advance for any development of the situation.

[fif21]

The army of the USSR liberated Ukraine from the Germans for 2 years !!!!! The operation takes only a month! I think it's definitely a success! 8 years - time worked for the owners of Ukraine. They talked about this back at 14 at VO.

[Vadmir]

The army of the USSR liberated Ukraine from the Germans for 2 years !!!!!

Well, you compared too, Germany had colossal resources, a multi-million army, most of these 2 years, Germany had air supremacy. The level of motorization of the Red Army cannot be compared with the modern Russian army. This means that the speed of daily progress is incomparable. Plus, complete air supremacy, technical superiority in weapons and equipment.
Before the war, all "military experts" said that if it starts, it will end in 72 hours, or, at most, in 1-2 weeks.

[fif21]

Quote: Vadmir

Before the war, all "military experts" said that if it starts, it will end in 72 hours, or, at most, in 1-2 weeks.

So there is a difference between WAR and Special Operation. If NATO tactics had been applied, then perhaps everything would have ended by now.

[Cartalon]

According to NATO tactics, today everything would have just begun without a month of bombing, NATO does not attack and seems to be doing the right thing.

[Revolver]

Tse win chi zrada?

[Ros 56]

Three in one glass.

[Ros 56]

Well, crap, they will work in three shifts and the winter will pass quickly. They do not have 40-degree frosts.

[polynet]

Until May 9 should finish - as an option.

[Awaz]

by May 9, I think that Mariupol will be finished off and shelling of Donetsk from Gradov will stop ...

[Awaz]

almost four weeks ago they said that two or three days and Ukraine would capitulate .. The protracted war that the United States warned about and that they were preparing was starting to take place. The United States was able to force the Ukrainians to fight for their money to the last Ukrainian ..