Pilots began to quit the legendary Swifts because of the scandal with the commander and humiliating duties

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Another confirmation was received by the alarming words of the members of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation that the Russian aviation threatens to decline. The famous Swifts aerobatic team, which recently appeared in the center of scandal, began to leave the pilots. Two pilots of the MiG-29 leave the military service from the reserve team of the Swifts, RIA reportedNews"source familiar with the situation.

One of them explains his decision by the fact that after the soldiers were removed from Kubinka in July, the pilots themselves began to attend the guard and perform other functions that the soldiers had previously performed, the source explained.

The situation in Kubinka, which poses serious problems both to the Swifts and their colleagues at the Su-27 - “Russian Knights” - was previously reported by officers who served at the airfield. According to them, half of the base has already been sold to "merchants", and the military may soon be completely banished from the facility. As for the pilots, they are now subordinate to the Lipetsk aviation center, which has its own aces, the Falcons of Russia, sources said. And the capital pilots seemed to be oppressed.

As for the second retired pilot from the Swifts, he explained his decision by disagreement with the pursuit of the commander of the aerobatic team. “I decided to quit because of the situation with the commander of Swifts, because“ I see no reason to continue the service, ”said a source.

Recall, the commander "Swifts" Valery Morozov is suspected of extortion: the pilot allegedly demanded payment from a local merchant for using the symbols of the aerobatic team. It was also reported that the officer extorted money from his subordinates. In this regard, an inspection was carried out in a military unit in Kubinka, following which Morozov was submitted for early dismissal from the Air Force due to non-compliance with the terms of the contract. Also in relation to the pilot conducted pre-investigation check.

On the defense of the commander immediately got his colleagues from the "Swifts". They stated that story with extortion is absurd and even wrote a letter to the president, and some even suggested that Morozov was slandered by the resigning pilot who was not at odds with the commander.

As previously stated in the Ministry of Defense, the question of the dismissal of Morozov has not yet been adopted, the officer continues to serve. However, the pilot may lose his job after October 15. Then his current contract expires, the Kubinka source told RIA Novosti the day before.

Two "Swifts" transplanted to the Yak-130

The interlocutors of the agency also indirectly confirmed the rumors about a possible early disintegration of the Swifts. The fact is that the Ministry of Defense has long wanted to create a piloting group in the new Yak-130 combat training aircraft. Without refusing from the existing groups "Swifts" and "Russian Knights", as stated in the military department.

However, it has now become known that in favor of these plans, the two "Swifts" - at least temporarily - are being transplanted from the MiG-29. "It was decided to send two pilots from the main staff of the Strizhi aerobatic team to retraining for the new Yak-130 combat aircraft. The training begins in November. The pilots will reveal all the subtleties of piloting the new machine and will be able to transfer the skills to their young colleagues," RIA "News" source familiar with the situation.

At the same time, he did not specify whether the pilots will remain in the Swifts or will be transferred to a new group.
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  1. Antipetian 1
    0
    27 September 2012 20: 24
    Who cares: read the deniskins, here is the link

    http://twower.livejournal.com/876283.html

    You can familiarize yourself with the new aerobatic team on the Yak-130!

    "It was decided to send two pilots from the main staff of the Swifts aerobatic team for retraining on new Yak-130 combat training aircraft. Training begins in November. The pilots will reveal all the subtleties of piloting the new aircraft and in the future will be able to transfer skills to their young colleagues," he said. the interlocutor of the agency, without specifying whether the pilots will remain in the Swifts or will be transferred to a new group.
    1. +17
      27 September 2012 22: 35
      All the same, the group collapsed, ssssuki.
      1. dimanf
        +27
        27 September 2012 22: 55
        Quote: crazyrom

        All the same, the group collapsed, ssssuki.


        but a new one has appeared !!!!!
        1. Alex 241
          +2
          27 September 2012 23: 28
          Hey, I saw such wheels at the farmer's walk-behind tractor. So I got the engine from there ....
          1. sazhka0
            +5
            28 September 2012 07: 19
            Well, then you’ll be the Supreme GK ... The main thing is to attach wings ... And in the Country everything will become worse ..
  2. Melchakov
    -2
    27 September 2012 20: 26
    Well, start now. Serdyukov will start drinking valerian. laughing
    1. Antipetian 1
      -5
      27 September 2012 20: 29
      Especially for VAF I will say: not everything is bad. There is information about the creation of a new aerobatic team on brand new aircraft!
      1. VAF
        VAF
        0
        27 September 2012 21: 07
        Quote: Antipetyan 1
        There is information about the creation of a new aerobatic team on brand new aircraft!


        Are you really like that? fool or are you fooling around ????

        I ask you seriously. without any rise ..ё !!!

        Go up to the mirror and look at yourself ... and then think about where you are and where the plane is. Moreover, a fighter. Yes, and in the aerobatic team !!!

        Special for Vaf ??????? You "yourself" thought what you wrote? fool
        1. Antipetian 1
          -7
          27 September 2012 21: 09
          I just knew that you would come and lament, they say, ".... everything .... is gone .... damned pricks"
          1. spender
            +1
            27 September 2012 21: 25
            Quote: Antipetyan 1
            I just knew that you would come and lament, they say, ".... everything .... is gone .... damned pricks"

            Well, the "sucker" has survived to normal people sticking off topic, damn it ... I wonder one thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!

            ADMINISTS, THIS COCK IS NOT BEING BASED WITH ONE ANYONE, REASONED ANOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Or you can violate the rules and interpret them for some members of the forum, but against others ??????????????

            YOURSELF NOT TIRED ?????????????

            SMIRNOV, CROWN DOESN'T SEARCH ??????????? wassat
            1. Oleg0705
              -3
              27 September 2012 21: 39
              Well, all n .... c kitten crying


              spender

              Bye to the little bear ..


              I'll get you bald from the other side am
              UUUU HAZEL am

              FID

              Lesh, why are they like flies for a certain product ... and curl.

              BECAUSE YOU ARE THIS PRODUCT AND IS am
              1. spender
                +3
                27 September 2012 21: 44
                Quote: Oleg0705
                Well, all n .... c kitten

                Until the little bear ... So nine lives against sucking paws and skulls with sawdust matter ... wink
                Protect yourself from temptations, Gaster !!! wassat
                1. FID
                  +4
                  27 September 2012 21: 48
                  Lesh, why are they like flies for a certain product ... and curl.
                  1. spender
                    +2
                    27 September 2012 21: 51
                    Quote: SSI
                    Well, they are like flies on a certain product ... and curl.

                    Sergey, they just confuse flies with bees laughing
              2. +5
                27 September 2012 22: 03
                [quote = Oleg0705] bully laughing
              3. VAF
                VAF
                +2
                27 September 2012 22: 10
                Quote: Oleg0705
                Well, all n .... c kitten


                And you are right there, the main thing is to have time to SLIM ... then what isn’t ... flying away? tongue

                In a couple of "fighting" .... SOSUN and LIZUN wassat wassat

                Just for the site of the Military Review bully crying am
                1. spender
                  +4
                  27 September 2012 22: 11
                  Quote: vaf
                  In a couple of "combat" .... SOSUN and LIZUN Just for the site Military Review

                  Then the Unrivaled Sosun and Hard to reach Lizun ... Everything is like in Amer comics wink
            2. VAF
              VAF
              +7
              27 September 2012 22: 07
              Quote: spender
              ADMINISTS, THIS COCK IS NOT BEING BASED WITH ONE ANYONE, REASONED ANOTHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


              Lesha, you are mistaken .. THIRD !!!! And from all ... it works!

              Like the Su-25 SM, I'm sorry to compare a good plane with THIS !!!!

              Just Su-25SM, SM1, SM2, SM3 and so on are not modifications, but order numbers according to the number of upgraded ones (this is for those who are not in the know)!
              1. spender
                +5
                27 September 2012 22: 09
                Quote: vaf
                Lesha, you are mistaken .. THIRD !!!! And from all ... it works!

                That's what I watch minus showered wassat Conveyor at work wink Well, yes we do not complain, we punish ourselves !!! am
                1. VAF
                  VAF
                  0
                  27 September 2012 22: 25
                  Quote: spender
                  Well, yes we do not complain, we punish ourselves !!!


                  What remains to be done? It is clear that business is business and the more traffic the more ... pleasure. but should there be at least some kind of barrier everywhere?

                  And then one who .. "Rot" has three nicknames. the second one, who "Pop" the same three and .. all rolls with a bang ??? bully
        2. FID
          +5
          27 September 2012 21: 10
          Serge! Do not boil. You are a man - it sounds!
          1. +6
            27 September 2012 21: 57
            Quote: SSI
            Serge! Do not boil. You are a man - it sounds!


            I would write like this HUMAN and emphasize !!! good
        3. Alex 241
          +5
          27 September 2012 21: 11
          Serega less gas ...
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +2
            27 September 2012 21: 58
            Quote: Alex 241
            Serega less gas ...


            Sanya, where does the .. turnover? We got these ..... well, there’s no strength anymore !!!

            Correctly M. Zadornov says about such ....... "Well, damn it ... STUPID" !!!! +! wassat
            1. spender
              +3
              27 September 2012 21: 59
              Quote: vaf
              and where .. turns? We got these ..... well, there’s no strength anymore !!!

              Serge !!! Hush! Everything is under control, they are taking you out now, do not be fooled by provocations wink
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                28 September 2012 08: 13
                Quote: spender
                Serge !!! Hush! Everything is under control, they are taking you out now, do not be fooled by provocations

                Lech are you right every day trying to provoke someone !!
                type specifically for (wafa) or (spenders), (appolon)!
                I saw only once the reasoned position, and then on the part of the urzul in the dispute on these issues!
            2. Alex 241
              +3
              27 September 2012 22: 02
              As one movie hero said: Patience is my friend, and the stubble turn into gold drinks
              1. +5
                27 September 2012 22: 20
                Quote: Alex 241
                As one movie hero said: Patience is my friend, and the stubble turn into gold


                and shutter speed + hi
                1. Alex 241
                  +3
                  27 September 2012 22: 26
                  I admit sometimes a problem with this laughing
      2. +11
        27 September 2012 22: 17
        Quote: Antipetyan 1
        There is information about the creation of a new aerobatic team on brand new aircraft!



        Are you talking about this plane ??? this one of them! laughing
      3. VAF
        VAF
        +3
        28 September 2012 00: 58
        Quote: Antipetyan 1
        Especially for vaf I’ll say: not everything is bad.


        Well, yes ... I also forgot the phrase ..... life was a success! fool

      4. +2
        28 September 2012 03: 40
        Quote: Antipetyan 1
        not everything is bad. There is information about the creation of a new aerobatic team on brand new aircraft

        Yak 130 is better than PrFi for a moment 29, everything is not so bad, but why don’t you say that everything is good? What other illusions, one after another, are falling apart and everything is not so bad, and what is not bad, surely not all officers have been dismissed.
    2. VAF
      VAF
      +5
      27 September 2012 21: 09
      Quote: Melchakov
      Serdyukov will start drinking valerian.


      He would start drinking Valerian if everything remained the same and the Cuban would still be the Center!

      And so ... already almost .. collective farm-interteyment!

      Uryapatrioty ----- URAYAYAYA Taburetkinu !!!! wassat
      1. Antipetian 1
        -12
        27 September 2012 21: 16
        That is, that in Korenovsk and Buddenovsk, not to mention Torzhok, the new Ka-52 and Mi-28N helicopters are the basis of the aircraft fleet, this is not the merit of "Stool"? You hate him so much, point-blank not wanting to see updates and something good in the "reforms": TZ Volvo, Lynx, Armata, Ka-52, Su-35, Yak-130, T-50 (?) And other magnificent samples technology that actually goes into service.
        1. MI-AS-72
          +19
          27 September 2012 21: 24
          "Not the merit of the stool", that's for sure, it is mainly the merit of the past called the USSR.
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +1
            27 September 2012 22: 11
            Quote: MI-AS-72
            it is a merit mainly of the past under the name of the USSR.


            Zhen, hello, +! Yes, he read such a word as the USSR only in the internet for the first time! lol
        2. OSTAP BENDER
          +8
          27 September 2012 21: 42
          Antipetyan! Here, this is the merit of the Stool, that all the new weapons on the fingers can be counted. Yes, they completely forgot about the English beds for the Navy - this is also a miracle samples for the "new castrated army", and you Antipetyan, you thought it was reformed !!!!!
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +3
            27 September 2012 22: 13
            Quote: OSTAP BENDER
            and you Antipetian, thought reformed !!!!!


            Bender, dear. He thinks of a different place .... well. which ...... sucked!

            And in general, they are with Vinya a couple .. one through his mouth, and the second through F ... and not one of them reaches!
            1. OSTAP BENDER
              +4
              27 September 2012 22: 20
              vaf! Here I read the news. "Serdyukov has strengthened his position near the PU, despite the failure in reforming the army, and frequent emergency situations." Well bl ... there are simply no words !!!!
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +4
                27 September 2012 22: 30
                Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                "Serdyukov strengthened his position near the PU, despite the failure in reforming the army, and frequent emergencies." Well bl ... there are simply no words !!!!


                I read it at lunch, so I went into the garden, took the chainsaw and started to roll nuts ... counted for three hours. so did that. that actually normal people in a month .. do it! ++ !! drinks

                And then he returned and ... on Mi-2 ... offended and insulted - .. damn .. stop them from rejoicing. here ... again a couple ...... unconventional ....

                Therefore, those words that you say. that is to say the least ... very !!!

                If you are bad, they say so. which is bad, but they start to do at least something, but we have ... an eternal holiday of life ... everything is fucking open, nothing is alive, they don't know where to cut it off, so that at least something can be created out of the MiG-31 -x. but ... "we are going the right way!"
              2. Yarbay
                +1
                28 September 2012 08: 16
                Quote: OSTAP BENDER
                Serdyukov strengthened his position near the PU, despite the failure in reforming the army, and frequent emergencies "

                Correction is needed)))))
                THANKS to failure))))))
            2. ytqnhfk
              -2
              28 September 2012 00: 25
              Shouted? all the smart ones have spoken? Well, fine article minus a complete mess !!!!! I'll wait when unnamed sources stink of their refutations - how many times has it happened! "
        3. VAF
          VAF
          +5
          27 September 2012 22: 04
          Quote: Antipetyan 1
          not to mention Torzhok new helicopters Ka-52 and Mi-28N


          Who are you going to .. "fight" in a transport helicopter, clown ???

          Take the Syrian report for the last month and read it, maybe so .. it will!

          Quote: Antipetyan 1
          which actually enter service.


          What did you get from this list, the clown, except for the Ka-52. with old weapons ????


          Quote: Antipetyan 1
          You hate him so much, not wanting to see updates and something good in "reforms"


          I see the disaster Ka-52-Torzhok, the disaster Mi-35M-the crew from Torzhok ... continue to continue or so .. are you?

          Quote: Antipetyan 1
          other magnificent examples of equipment that really come into service.


          Soon 10 years will pass, as the Su-35 is trying to adopt everything, but here's something still everything in the GLICE !!!! And then also to Lipetsk, so for a year or two!

          So where do they go ????
          1. +6
            27 September 2012 22: 14
            Seryozha, you know what interests me, is it possible to somehow influence so that these Chmyras are removed from their posts, and before that they would be muddied by a check and that everything would be open to the people, and let the swine report for the work done!
            1. Alex 241
              +2
              27 September 2012 22: 17
              What would the "Paradise Company" surrender their own? I doubt it ...
              1. +3
                27 September 2012 22: 19
                I don’t give a damn, let the inspection be conducted openly and provide all the information to the people, so that we know where the money is spent.
                1. VAF
                  VAF
                  +5
                  27 September 2012 22: 37
                  Quote: Joker
                  let the audit be conducted openly and provide all the information to the people, so that we know where the money is spent by these tricks.


                  Oleg, my friend, +! I'm begging you ... what money ???? Who will let go there ???

                  Who is the best financier in the world? Correctly. so what to talk about?

                  One creation of the funded part of the pension is such a scam .. that Ostap Bender probably wiped his teeth with envy ... come up with, and you say ?! recourse
              2. VAF
                VAF
                +3
                27 September 2012 22: 34
                Quote: Alex 241
                What would the "Paradise Company" surrender their own? I doubt it ...


                +! bully
            2. VAF
              VAF
              +4
              27 September 2012 22: 34
              Quote: Joker
              is it possible to somehow act to remove these chmyrams from their posts


              Oleg, no! This is the SYSTEM and it began with the Humpbacked, when he began to "kill" all the FRONTOVIK MARSHALS, well, and these .. picked up and continue!

              They have everything under control and our indignation and indignation .. this is a post-factum, unfortunately!
              Personally, I (my opinion) ... I do not see ANY prospects in this regard!

              It will only get worse !!! soldier
              1. +3
                28 September 2012 08: 58
                It is not sad, but it is a fact. I do not see the prospect of a political course change in a legal way.
          2. Alex 241
            +3
            27 September 2012 22: 22
            Earrings such a feeling the alien writes some sort ..............
            1. VAF
              VAF
              +7
              28 September 2012 00: 01
              Quote: Alex 241
              Earrings such a feeling the alien writes some sort.


              Yeah ... with Plyuka! +! drinks ... do you remember the quote from the movie? .... "and where is the government looking ... and the government lives on another planet .... dear!" wassat lol

              1. Alex 241
                +2
                28 September 2012 00: 07
                Uncle, this is not vodka, this is vinegar ................. Chatlanin is one gravitsap for half a cc ............ wassat

                The most interesting thing, Seryozha, you don’t recognize the headdress? When it dawned on me, I laughed to hiccups. This is a codpiece from VKK wassat
                1. VAF
                  VAF
                  +5
                  28 September 2012 00: 41
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  You don’t recognize a hat?


                  Well .. it would be stupid! wink

                  And the film is a MASTERPIECE ... everything about that ... as we have now ... EVERYTHING !!!! good +! crying
                  1. Alex 241
                    +3
                    28 September 2012 00: 45
                    Seryozha still has prophets ........... drinks
              2. Lapaev mihail
                +1
                28 September 2012 02: 10
                +++++++++++++++++++++++++ cooler it was impossible to say super !!!
          3. Fox
            +1
            28 September 2012 07: 59
            WAF, don’t swear, he just wrote all the words he heard ... the meaning of these words is not important for him!
          4. 0
            28 September 2012 16: 29
            I'm sorry, maybe I'm lost somewhere, but:

            Quote: vaf
            Who are you going to .. "fight" in a transport helicopter, clown ???


            Since when did the Ka-52 and Mi-28N become airborne transport?
        4. +4
          27 September 2012 22: 36
          Quote: Antipetyan 1
          and other magnificent examples of equipment that really come into service.

          You still forgot about the new form in which soldiers grief grab.
        5. AIvanA
          +3
          28 September 2012 07: 12
          Dear, and how many of the newest machines were received, and how many were withdrawn from the Air Force this year alone, the result is not in favor of Stouretkin, and the money for at least the past two years for defense has been mastered, and the defense order has been disrupted in full, so it is only in two years. And the officer corps, in spite of the high salaries, having collected a minimum, how many people are dismissed, and what are the enrollments in recent years in military universities? In general, everywhere you look, there is collapse, albeit in a beautiful package and with the slogan "Long live Russia", to be honest it is high time to judge him for such a democratic leadership of the Armed Forces. And if we add to this the deputy's statement that Russia needs an army that we can maintain, then the Armed Forces will most likely be very modern and well-armed in the size of the Garden Ring.
      2. +9
        27 September 2012 21: 24
        Quote: vaf
        He would start drinking Valerian if everything remained the same and the Cuban would still be the Center!

        Seryoga, hello! Yes, the laurels of "Swifts" do not give rest to some people, they are very professional flying, so that representatives of NATO countries nervously smoke on the sidelines. That's where the legs grow from, so you yourself understand whose ears are peeping out behind all this bedlam.
        1. REPA1963
          -3
          27 September 2012 21: 29
          When you sometimes have diarrhea, do you always blame your neighbor for this ?????
          1. +7
            27 September 2012 21: 33
            Quote: REPA1963
            When you sometimes have diarrhea, do you always blame your neighbor for this ?????

            You have it clearly verbal ....
            1. spender
              +8
              27 September 2012 21: 35
              Quote: Tersky
              You have it clearly verbal ....

              Hello, hello! Here the antipetians are much worse ... Pimmer and Omar are already disowning his services ... wassat
              1. +3
                27 September 2012 21: 41
                Quote: spender
                Pupyrchaty and Omar are already disowning his services

                Hi Alex, a smoking room! It's been a long time on the site, there are so many new (old) personalities, they will have to turn to their guys for advice drinks
                1. spender
                  +5
                  27 September 2012 21: 46
                  Quote: Tersky
                  It's been a long time on the site, there are so many new (old) personalities, they will have to turn to their guys for advice

                  No problem! Good people forever hello and respect drinks
                  1. +4
                    27 September 2012 22: 20
                    Quote: spender
                    No problem!

                    Welcome, while I read the comments, if I catch up in a personal unsubscribe YesIn the meantime, I see that someone is specifically minus, and selectively for large stars laughing
                    1. spender
                      +6
                      27 September 2012 22: 25
                      Quote: Tersky
                      Welcome, while I read the comments, if I catch up in a personal unsubscribe

                      With pleasure, I will answer !!! The first marshal was, like in a toy store, everything is open (with rare exceptions: the gang of "dozing", Smirnov was not visible), and now the "serpentarium of like-minded people and Smirnov is" settling "and changing the Rules recourse What will happen next? It looks like you need to go into "contemplators", but the character is not the same angry
                      1. Alex 241
                        +2
                        27 September 2012 22: 30
                        Aleksey is the same everywhere, before there was POPULAR MECHANICS on the site, everything was like a carbon copy.
                      2. spender
                        +4
                        27 September 2012 22: 37
                        Quote: Alex 241
                        everything is the same everywhere, used to be on the site POPULAR MECHANICS, everything is like a carbon copy.

                        I did not sit on the PM website, but I watched what was happening on this, before a person who dared to doubt the words of Pu, DAM and the EDR line would be driven into the skull right now, now we have changed the situation ... Everyone can express their opinion without looking back at the stars and old-timers, but it’s obvious to someone that this is not to the court ... laughing
        2. VAF
          VAF
          +10
          27 September 2012 22: 18
          Quote: Tersky
          That's where the legs grow, so you yourself understand whose ears behind all this bedlam look out.


          Victor, hi. In the early spring, I posted comments (almost an article) to whom. when and how much ..... and for what.

          This "baida" with the purchase of Kubinka by Karimov began when Igor was still alive ........ crying Eternal to him ..memory soldier

          1. Alex 241
            +4
            27 September 2012 22: 20
            soldier REST IN PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!
          2. +7
            27 September 2012 22: 34
            Quote: vaf
            This "baida" with the purchase of Kubinka by Karimov began when Igor was still alive ..

            When already get drunk, damn it .... request
            1. Alex 241
              +3
              27 September 2012 22: 36
              Never ............. VIP AVIATERMINAL is steeper than an oil well.
            2. 0
              27 September 2012 22: 44
              Tersky,
              Quote: vaf
              This "baida" with the purchase of Kubinka by Karimov began when Igor was still alive ..

              When they get drunk, damn it

              A little bit wrong. Karimov wanted a small plot in Kubinka, but Taburetkin said: I’ll give half to another. He wanted to snatch more, and some say - a reformer ... Reforms are carried out on the money that can not be whistled.
              Another example of cutting money, here on the website - http://topwar.ru/19356-na-balanse-minoborony-ostanetsya-300-gorodkov.html
        3. +1
          27 September 2012 23: 20
          Quote: Tersky
          Yes, the laurels of "Swifts" do not give rest to some people, they really fly professionally, so that representatives of NATO countries nervously smoke on the sidelines

          Maybe laurels do not give anyone peace, but the reason in my opinion lies elsewhere.
          In 2009, some media reported on the possible transfer of the airfield to a private investor to create a business aviation airport on its basis, but subsequent developments have refuted this point of view. [4]

          In April 2010, two-thirds of the airfield territory was sold at an auction to the company ZAO Airport Kubinka, owned by the businessman's Nafta-Moscow holding Suleiman Kerimov

          Moreover, an airfield five kilometers from the capital.
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +1
            28 September 2012 00: 46
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Moreover, an airfield five kilometers from the capital.


            However, it will not be enough ...... +!
            If from the checkpoint to the ring, then exactly 59km!
            Well, if from the KTA to the Center, then 68 km! soldier
            1. Alex 241
              +3
              28 September 2012 00: 50
              I blurted out something here that I apologize 100. Guilty.
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +4
                28 September 2012 01: 05
                Quote: Alex 241
                I blurted out something here that I apologize 100. Guilty.


                So the last time in the Saxaphone zone when. ". Pedal something"? +! drinks

                1. Alex 241
                  +2
                  28 September 2012 01: 17
                  Seryozha and I do not remember already ...........

                  Thank you so much for the photo. Saved. Previously, we had this strictly, the hundredth order soldier

                  Although in June I was a little pampered on the AW-119, but it's a turntable.
      3. +4
        27 September 2012 22: 00
        Quote: vaf
        He would start drinking Valerian if everything remained the same and the Cuban would still be the Center!

        And so ... already almost .. collective farm-interteyment!

        Uryapatrioty ----- URAYAYAYA Taburetkinu !!!!


        in the police, the camera is called a monkey; her to the swing laughing
      4. +6
        28 September 2012 03: 46
        Quote: vaf
        Serdyukov will start drinking valerian

        Serdyukov sips brandy and spits on the ceiling, "reform" is in full swing. Soon Russia will have nothing left of its friends (army, aviation and navy). You need to hang these animals and that's it !!!
    3. sazhka0
      -1
      28 September 2012 07: 25
      Already begun .. You moose ..
      1. +4
        28 September 2012 07: 44
        Quote: sazhka0
        Already begun .. You moose ..

        If this is for me, then you are a goblin yourself hi
  3. +10
    27 September 2012 20: 27
    Such a fate has long befell all the armed forces ... and many officers cannot tolerate the pidic ... situation in the country! Poor Motherland ...
  4. Nevsky
    +2
    27 September 2012 20: 30
    The mind cannot understand Russia ... And this is on the eve of the new 1939 !?
    1. moron
      -1
      27 September 2012 20: 43
      are you sure?
    2. 0
      27 September 2012 21: 44
      How can one understand Ukraine?
  5. bask
    +2
    27 September 2012 20: 33
    They will build new airdromes, airplanes. And who will fly on them, one fly to St. Petersburg. Specialists will leave who will transfer the experience of the remaining few youth? We poor.!
  6. FID
    +16
    27 September 2012 20: 34
    The airfield in Kubinka has long been sold. Serdyukov had just become minister, when he immediately sold the airfield. There will be a business airport. And he will destroy aviation - the academy of Zhukovsky and Gagarin - where are they?
    1. Alex 241
      +2
      27 September 2012 20: 54
      Yes, Serezha has been rumored for a long time, the guys from Kubinka have been pushed. A gas terminal has been operating in Astafyevo for a long time.
      1. FID
        +5
        27 September 2012 21: 06
        One Chkalovskoye will remain, but there is the generals, they will not be touched. Personal general airfield!
        1. Alex 241
          +3
          27 September 2012 21: 13
          Yes, and go there for a long time, however, as well as to get to Kubinka, the travel time will be equal to the flight time, if not more ... Does it make sense to fence a garden?
      2. Yarbay
        +5
        28 September 2012 08: 32
        Quote: Alex 241

        Yes, Serezha has been rumored for a long time, the guys from Kubinka have been pushed. A gas terminal has been operating in Astafyevo for a long time.

        I don’t understand one thing, well, there is so much dough, well, let them build on some sort of wasteland, but no, they should spoil it !!
        1. FID
          +4
          28 September 2012 08: 55
          Dear Alibek! Moreover, I want to say that it would be cheaper to build a new one! Below (yesterday) I already wrote that it is necessary to redo the strip, redo landing systems and drives and much more. But, probably, there is chic in this, pick up from the country and make it yours! So love capitalism after that!
          1. Yarbay
            +5
            28 September 2012 09: 09
            Quote: SSI
            Below (yesterday) I already wrote that it is necessary to redo the strip, redo landing systems and drives and much more. But, probably, there is chic in this, pick up from the country and make it yours! So love capitalism after that!

            Dear Sergey!
            This is not capitalism, this is self-interest!
            I read an article about Telman Ismayilov today!
            He left the waiter 10 thousand bucks a tip and from them there was a fight between the waiters!
            http://vesti.az/news/131178/
            And who was he before ?? in 80 years ??
            It can be seen that something is happening to people at the chemical level!
            1. FID
              +2
              28 September 2012 09: 29
              And how do their kids behave !? They correctly said - they are not born scoundrels - they become!
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                28 September 2012 09: 38
                Quote: SSI
                And how do their kids behave !?

                Ponte, Ponte !!!!
                fathers example!
        2. +2
          28 September 2012 09: 18
          Greetings! inserting his five cents, could not pass by.
          Their task is to make a mess, the rest is secondary. Kubinka is that? That's right, the cradle of domestic aviation and not only, therefore it must be erased, like the memory of domestic aviation, they are traitors, and the noose is crying over them, the feeling that they also specifically expose it to the public, and the people "hawala". ..
          I apologize for the emotions ...
          1. Yarbay
            +3
            28 September 2012 09: 26
            Quote: klimpopov
            , and the people "hawala".

            No, I don’t think so!
            It's just that people are thinking of feeding themselves!
            1. +3
              28 September 2012 09: 32
              Greetings! Havala also and how! Look at the site! What does such two murderous news have for such a short period of time ... Re-equipment ... Nu-nu ...
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                28 September 2012 09: 57
                Quote: klimpopov
                Greetings! Havala also and how! Look at the site! What does such two murderous news have for such a short period of time ... Re-equipment ... Nu-nu ..

                Hi Klim!
                I think I’m already used to such news !!
    2. VAF
      VAF
      +8
      27 September 2012 21: 12
      Quote: SSI
      And he will destroy aviation - the academy of Zhukovsky and Gagarin - where are they?


      UAAC NP ZhuGarin Academy! And Major General Kharchevsky was appointed to command. +! request

      Like this ... apparently the Lipetsk guys are too good ... they began to learn to fly and others ... we should have wings ... to cut bully
      1. FID
        +3
        27 September 2012 21: 19
        Something I do not know Kharchevsky. Where is he from?
        1. Alex 241
          +6
          27 September 2012 21: 22
          From Lipetsk, the head of the TsBPLS VVS.Putin on the plane "rolled"
          1. FID
            +4
            27 September 2012 21: 24
            Is it on Sukhoi, or what? Someone else drove on a swan.
            1. Alex 241
              +2
              27 September 2012 21: 27
              Yes Seryozha to Chechnya ...
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +4
                27 September 2012 23: 09
                Quote: Alex 241
                Yes Seryozha to Chechnya ...


                "Presidential" Su-27UB..board number 17+! soldier



                1. Alex 241
                  +4
                  27 September 2012 23: 13
                  Oh, I could only manage to! Yes, she would have opened her whole mouth (quote from the cartoon Vovka in the far-away kingdom) We have a meeting here to exchange wisdom. What? WISDOM ,,,,
            2. VAF
              VAF
              +4
              27 September 2012 23: 35
              Quote: SSI
              Someone else drove on a swan.




              Seryoga, well, I have to find out from the pictures, though the Vovka of the Adams is standing behind him, but what about Zhikharev and Baranov? Although Baranov from ..... "new" +! soldier

              1. Alex 241
                +3
                27 September 2012 23: 59
                Guys, where is the button here? (For the first photo) And how did I fit here only ?????????? (for the second)
              2. FID
                +2
                28 September 2012 07: 35
                I know Zhikharev, that's for sure, but I didn’t meet Baranov.
              3. FID
                +2
                28 September 2012 07: 54
                In vain he was put in the left chair (he almost wrote in the "cup", then changed his mind. Recently I wanted to scold one that they say "a cup" can be called by those who poured a basin into it). The priority is always with the left, could accidentally and ...
                1. Yarbay
                  +3
                  28 September 2012 08: 37
                  Quote: SSI
                  The priority is always in the left, could by chance and

                  Putin is a risky man, apparently he insisted !!
              4. Yarbay
                +1
                28 September 2012 08: 35
                Quote: vaf
                Well, from the pictures I must find out

                A good pilot would have come out of it!
                Oh, I didn’t go there!
              5. +2
                28 September 2012 10: 10
                Is Putin already a first-class pilot? smartly he however ...
                1. FID
                  +2
                  28 September 2012 10: 31
                  Quote: kotdavin4i
                  Is Putin already a first-class pilot? smartly he however ...

                  In the next flight we’ll already see the letter M, I think so!
          2. VAF
            VAF
            +7
            27 September 2012 22: 53
            Quote: Alex 241
            Putin on the plane "rolled"


            +! soldier

            1. Alex 241
              +3
              27 September 2012 22: 57
              And his eyes are like a man's slaughter, this is not a committee ... this is aviation son, he should be happy laughing
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +3
                28 September 2012 00: 07
                Quote: Alex 241
                And the eyes of a man to kill


                I will not post a photo where he is from a stepladder from the cockpit .... it is clear that it is not usual. but his Kharchevsky ... "tenderly. a pancake with a roll of 10-15g ... like a lyalu"! Or like an expensive Chinese vase ... in short ... very carefully! wink
                1. Alex 241
                  +1
                  28 September 2012 00: 09
                  In our everyday life there was another expression: Like a vat with GO.NOM.
                2. Yarbay
                  +3
                  28 September 2012 08: 39
                  Quote: vaf
                  but his Kharchevsky ... "tenderly. a pancake with a roll of 10-15 grams ... like a lyalu"! Or like an expensive Chinese vase ... in short ... very carefully

                  PILOTS))))))))))))))))))))))))))
              2. Yarbay
                +1
                28 September 2012 08: 38
                Quote: Alex 241
                And his eyes are like a man's slaughter, this is not a committee ... this is aviation son, he should be happy

                Killed))))))))))))))))))))
        2. sahha
          +1
          27 September 2012 21: 30
          Here he is, Major General Kharchevsky.
        3. VAF
          VAF
          +5
          27 September 2012 22: 46
          Quote: SSI
          Something I do not know Kharchevsky. Where is he from?


          Former chief of 4 pulp and paper industry and PLC IA and FBA in Lipetsk.

          Honored Pilot of the Russian Federation, pilot sniper. The only one. Who has in his account 56 sorties for training fights with amers and their brothers. flying on all types of fighters. armed with NATO countries!

          All .. a non-negotiable victory !!!! + soldier



          1. Alex 241
            +10
            27 September 2012 23: 00
            Okay Vova, you'll be a pilot laughing

            And it does not hurt? No Little Johnny does not hurt ....
            1. sahha
              +1
              27 September 2012 23: 52
              Quote: Alex 241
              Okay Vova, you'll be a laughing pilot

              And it does not hurt? No Little Johnny does not hurt ....


              Smiled, smiled strongly good
          2. Yarbay
            +3
            28 September 2012 08: 40
            Quote: vaf
            Honored Pilot of the Russian Federation, pilot sniper. The only one. Who has in his account 56 sorties for training fights with amers and their brothers. flying on all types of fighters. armed with NATO countries!

            All .. a non-negotiable victory !!!

            And just a major general ?????????? and not young like !!
            1. FID
              +4
              28 September 2012 09: 48
              So soon will be the Chief Marshal!
            2. +1
              28 September 2012 13: 43
              62 years old !!! Well done!!!
  7. +2
    27 September 2012 20: 35
    The situation in Kubinka, which threatens with serious problems for both the Strizhs and their colleagues on the Su-27, the Russian Knights, was previously reported by officers who served at the airport. According to them, half of the base has already been sold to "merchants", and the military may soon be completely driven out of the facility.
    Voooot! From it ... There are extreme, there are.
    1. +4
      27 September 2012 20: 46
      That's how everyone has problems. Only the Minister of Defense has everything in the ointment. And there is no wear and tear to him like an oak stool.
  8. +5
    27 September 2012 20: 43
    It's time to reintroduce the status of "enemy of the people", with appropriate measures. And start with the top generals led by the defense ministers.
  9. escobar
    +7
    27 September 2012 20: 43
    Here and NATO is not needed, "their" same army, its pride and prestige are ruining!
    1. Antipetian 1
      +2
      27 September 2012 20: 45
      Pride and prestige of the army ruined Grachev-Ivanov for a long time
      1. +1
        27 September 2012 21: 02
        I do not agree. Then Serdyukov would not be needed.
        1. Antipetian 1
          -4
          27 September 2012 21: 06
          Do you really think that Swifts and Knights will be thrown out in the cold? You are joking? Do you really think that our pride will simply be driven away without giving anything in return?
          1. Brother Sarych
            +1
            27 September 2012 21: 38
            Damn, I pressed the wrong button ...
            Yes, that’s exactly what we think they’ll just disperse, and nothing in return ...
          2. +1
            28 September 2012 09: 22
            And I think that EVERYTHING will simply be kicked out ... Who are the Knights / Swifts? Pilots, aerobatics? Nude ...
  10. Captain Vrungel
    +7
    27 September 2012 20: 45
    In France, Italy, Canada, the USA aerobatic teams are the country's pride. This is not support, but the direct destruction of Russia's pride. Citizen Taburetkin can only destroy everything that he did not create and trade (his main profession). It's a shame for Russia that those who should cherish and cherish unique groups destroy them. Do not find companies in the MO for guard duty, so send from the headquarters of the MO. and put cabinet loafers on the gate so that they don’t forget the army reality (how many junior officers are there who are not only a platoon, you can’t trust the squad. They are trained to serve, to serve, but not to serve.
  11. zamanyha
    +1
    27 September 2012 20: 48
    or they’re bred us ... or is it another duck of a scribble .... or do they really reveal the strength of Love for the country ?! But imagine if they will fly to business and one of the pilots will say: -it went all on ... .-I’m leaving?! It’s turning around and ..home?! - it’s not known where?! I don’t understand the words, I’m leaving! saw the whole mess and was amazed !?
    1. FID
      +5
      27 September 2012 20: 57
      They don’t bred, they asked flyers last year in Lipetsk, but they celebrated something or the elections were left in Kubinka. But, apparently, Khan Kubinka and the Aviation Technology Display Center.
  12. +1
    27 September 2012 20: 49
    And what is the percentage on the website of current officers or who quit this year? ... it is very interesting to know these statistics ...
  13. +4
    27 September 2012 20: 52
    Hmmm .... this is all very bad ..... how could it be ...... in such situations, I can’t understand Putin ..... here I would react to him and if ... to give out right and left...
    I read it straight and how did you .. and ate it .... you need to rinse your mouth, so that the carrion smack is washed off ....
    Shame on it ....
    1. Brother Sarych
      +1
      27 September 2012 21: 40
      Yes, it’s time to understand Putin already ...
      1. +1
        27 September 2012 22: 01
        Quote: volkan
        ..that in such situations I can’t understand Putin ...

        Quote: Brother Sarich

        Yes, it’s time to understand Putin already ...

        Good evening. Please explain to me why smart, educated people at the word Putin immediately lose all their intelligence?
        When it comes to the opposition, everything is wonderful, everyone understands everything. Emotions and eloquence over the edge. And as for the GDP, complete bewilderment and slurred muttering.
        1. FID
          +2
          28 September 2012 09: 01
          You see, things and words diverge. Hence the bewilderment. He says that it is necessary to restore the aviation industry and signs a contract for the purchase of airbuses. And so on ... I just gave an example that is closer to me. Others will say something else, I think.
  14. +5
    27 September 2012 20: 55
    Commander-in-chief for .... yu! We will probably have a hang gliding aerobatic team. together with cranes "barrels" will be written out. We started with the pilots, and then ... The runway on Kubinka is still listed in joint use (!). Businessmen are still afraid to use Kubinka, because they are not satisfied with the military landing system. When all the landing equipment is replaced, then problems will begin. If you want to use - pay, no - goodbye. After this, obviously, the second part of the airfield will also be sold - two bears in one den will not get along. We destroy what we were respected for request
    1. FID
      +2
      27 September 2012 21: 02
      In addition to ILS, it is also necessary to change the lane, businesses on concrete slabs do not sit well, immediately racks shake.
      1. Alex 241
        +2
        27 September 2012 21: 15
        Seryozha pull up the entire infrastructure. Angars, terminals and other chiaroscuro.
      2. 0
        27 September 2012 23: 31
        Quote: SSI
        In addition to ILS, it is also necessary to change the lane, businesses on concrete slabs do not sit well, immediately racks shake.

        I think that talking about a civilian airfield is temporary until it settles with aerobatic teams, and then this area is likely to be built up.
        1. FID
          +2
          28 September 2012 07: 38
          You should not think so. This is a very cash VIP airport! No wonder the center for displaying flying equipment is being disbanded (already practically!). Aerobatic teams are the pride of the country!
  15. +6
    27 September 2012 20: 57
    I want to know to whom the best pilots of the country interfere with life?
    Surnames in the studio !!!
    The people should know by name traitors and pests.
    Pilots are the elite of the sun, and the aces are doubly ...
    1. +3
      27 September 2012 21: 16
      Why in the studio? Better immediately to the wall. And so painfully familiar faces.
    2. Brother Sarych
      +2
      27 September 2012 21: 41
      Is it really so hard to guess who's getting in the way? And you don’t know their faces?
  16. +2
    27 September 2012 21: 09
    I read and it already becomes wild. To destroy the Swifts is nonsense. In general, it does not fit in my head
  17. +1
    27 September 2012 21: 09
    One hand creates new equipment and supplies it to the army, the other sells property to merchants. But where is the head looking?
    1. Alex 241
      +3
      27 September 2012 21: 16
      Head eat. Sad humor.
      1. VAF
        VAF
        +4
        28 September 2012 00: 15
        Quote: Alex 241
        Head eat. Sad humor.


        Her .. humor is just the topic ... and ..... on the topic +! what

        1. Alex 241
          +2
          28 September 2012 00: 19
          What is a horizon? This is a line that you can never reach ....................
          1. MI-AS-72
            +1
            28 September 2012 06: 14
            The horizon is the line along which you maintain in space (called life) the parameters of what you have in mind and are trying to reach the future.
    2. +1
      27 September 2012 21: 24
      erased
      My head puzzles, as if I were fulfilling election promises ...
      Not all, of course, but at least a little.
      So, the head of their worries is enough.
    3. Brother Sarych
      +2
      27 September 2012 21: 43
      And the head controls sales, because the supply of new equipment exists more in the media ...
  18. btsypulin
    +1
    27 September 2012 21: 19
    He served in Kubinka in 91-92, it is regrettable to read such news, but our "head" does not know anything! How much of this heresy has already been read on this and other sites - it's just awful!
    1. +2
      27 September 2012 21: 21
      No, he knows, of course. bad another - allows this to be.
  19. +3
    27 September 2012 21: 25
    If everything written in the article is true, the sad news ...

    PS there are simply no words.
    1. FID
      +9
      27 September 2012 21: 30
      I assure you, they don’t lie! Everything is just like that!
      1. Alex 241
        +1
        27 September 2012 21: 34
        Seryozha accidentally did not the former son-in-law of Pugacheva aim?
        1. FID
          +3
          27 September 2012 21: 41
          Yes, everything can be, he doesn’t peck at the money.
          1. Alex 241
            +5
            27 September 2012 21: 43
            KABYROV'S AIRBIZNESTERMINAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. +1
    27 September 2012 21: 29
    erased "But where is the head looking?" And you look at the emblem of the country .. Well it is, black and sad humor sad
  21. Brother Sarych
    +1
    27 September 2012 21: 34
    Well, the goal has almost been achieved - just a little more and it will be in the hat! Nobody in businessmen will be confused with their stupid flights ...
  22. bask
    +1
    27 September 2012 22: 09
    When amers roll us into the ground Then we will probably understand that without aviation. Kirdyk. And who did this ,, will bask in the Canaries for a long time, and not on the bunks
    1. +4
      28 September 2012 04: 07
      Quote: bask
       0 
      When they roll us into the land on amers, then we’ll probably understand that without aviation.

      The problem is that they will drive us in, who already understand everything, and those who break up the aircraft will sit in bunkers and will not even know that many have already been rolled into the ground. And even if it comes to them, hell is what you’ll do.
  23. +1
    27 September 2012 22: 18
    oh and idiots in the ministry are sitting ...
  24. algae
    +2
    27 September 2012 23: 01
    Or maybe the reason for the closure of the Cuban in another. Look at the map - protected Rublev lands. And these on the afterburner do not allow calmly to sprinkle the beds on the estates. Barin came to rest, and these flights. Not order, you know.
    1. Alex 241
      +1
      27 September 2012 23: 04
      Cuban in Mink, more than 100km from Moscow.
      1. 0
        30 September 2012 23: 31
        Quote: Alex 241

        Cuban in Mink, more than 100km from Moscow.

        In the village of Kubinka between the Mozhayskoye and the Minsk highway 500 meters. The airfield is from the side of Mozhaika and the railway of the Belarusian direction. From Moscow no more than 52 km. (from MKAD)
        Ruble has nothing to do with it. Cuban don't fly over her
  25. sxn278619
    -3
    27 September 2012 23: 17
    Why are these groups needed at all? Everyman entertain. It is necessary that the pilots in the combat units could fly, otherwise they are given boxes to do once a week. The entire blogger discusses whether he took it or not. Of course I took it, this is not a drug package toss. Why did I take another question - the era of capitalism, officers are thinking about earning for their families.
    1. spender
      +8
      27 September 2012 23: 21
      Quote: sxn278619
      Why are these groups needed at all? Everyman entertain.

      But nothing that the best are gathered there and they work out aerobatics and learn new ones that will possibly save someone’s life? fool
    2. Alex 241
      +4
      27 September 2012 23: 26
      To demonstrate the flag of your country! And the achievements of domestic technology, and that we have pilots who will sell the plane to the eye of a needle.
    3. VAF
      VAF
      +2
      28 September 2012 00: 18
      Quote: sxn278619
      Why are these groups needed at all? Everyman entertain.


      MINUS! negative

      1. Alex 241
        +4
        28 September 2012 00: 22
        As my commander said: No honor, no Homeland, no Flag ..............
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +5
          28 September 2012 00: 52
          Quote: Alex 241
          As my commander said: No honor, no Homeland, no Flag ..............


          Sanya, they now have different ... criteria ....

          1. Alex 241
            +5
            28 September 2012 00: 55
            Damn Seryozha, this is all to reel on the tracks ...... And pour napalm ................
            1. Yarbay
              +3
              28 September 2012 08: 44
              Quote: Alex 241

              Damn Seryozha, this is all to wrap the truck ...... And pour napalm .......

              Cruel !!!))) but fair !!!!!!!!!!!!
  26. iulai
    +2
    27 September 2012 23: 45
    but we don’t need pilots; he throws stools of any enemy into stools!
    1. Alex 241
      +3
      27 September 2012 23: 47
      As an option, fly on stools ...
  27. sxn278619
    -1
    28 September 2012 01: 10
    Who needs aerobatics?
    Air-to-air missiles have a range of 100 km
    Who will make these figures and why?
    Airborne pilots?
    Who will train them?
    Swifts and other flight show professionals.
    I am sure that in a training battle they will lose to good combat pilots.
  28. -8
    28 September 2012 01: 11
    And why are these "Swifts" so "legendary"? The fact that at all sorts of ostentatious parties, their planes regularly fall?
    1. +9
      28 September 2012 01: 38
      when you read comments such as you always remember Vishnevsky’s loneliness: no, in a nutshell you won’t be sent!
    2. +1
      28 September 2012 01: 53
      Quote: I think so
      And why are these "Swifts" so "legendary"? The fact that at all sorts of ostentatious parties, their planes regularly fall?


      No, not that. They are already famous for the fact that when they are mentioned, various gentlemen boil a substance in their veins, which, according to a well-known saying, does not sink in water.
    3. MI-AS-72
      +1
      28 September 2012 06: 18
      What you wrote is not calibrated, with your motto "I think so"
  29. +1
    28 September 2012 01: 35
    when you read comments such as YOU Vishnevsky’s line is always recalled: no, in a nutshell you won’t be sent!
  30. plump
    +2
    28 September 2012 02: 14
    Somehow I came across an imported air show: karoch, flyers on old screw on checkpoints figachat over the channel. Class! But for some reason, it did not occur to me to evaluate their capabilities in modern training combat. This show. And what a! And we, too, need to have such groups with their VP figures and with other gadgets. Let there be more Swifts, Korshuns, Hawks, Golden Eagles, and who else? I don’t know their combat significance, but for the boys it’s just that! And if the kid gets into aviation, then there will be new Nesterovs and Chkalovs. Not all of them flutter in the GTA in Las Venturas. :) Yes, look at how the sound of a military fighter affects them!
    1. MI-AS-72
      +1
      28 September 2012 06: 22
      Gentlemen, the one who owns la heavier than air is masterful, and such pilots in air groups always have an advantage over a pilot who is less prepared, all other things being equal.
  31. +3
    28 September 2012 06: 21
    Yes, after reading the article and the comments to it, I realized that Friday began with a shitty morning, ... the astronauts are leaving Rosssskosmos, they are spread rot by the most highly qualified pilots and the same oil picture is leaving ... BUT THE FISHED BROTHERS HAVE BEEN FURNISHED FOR EVERYTHING AGAIN CHOCOLATE.
  32. +1
    28 September 2012 06: 45
    I would like to summarize the discussion - one of those present can reasonably say without emotion: how many aerobatic teams should be in our stunted Air Force and on what types of machines?
    1. FID
      +1
      28 September 2012 07: 46
      There were three decent, Most likely, the efforts of fans to lick, three will be, but no offense to the pilots of these aerobatic teams, the level will not be the same. The best in their class of cars flew in Swifts and Knights! Plus a long flight, plus an understanding of each other, but you can continue for a long time. Aerobatic teams take a long time to prepare, but they represent the COUNTRY.
  33. +2
    28 September 2012 07: 32
    commercialization of the army is in full swing. who told me that the stool is not to blame for anything?
    1. +4
      28 September 2012 07: 48
      Quote: andrei332809

      commercialization of the army is in full swing. who told me that the stool is not to blame for anything?

      This is for Yesaul and the admirers of URA ideas hi
      1. +1
        28 September 2012 07: 53
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is for Yesaul and the admirers of URA ideas

        good morning. But something was gone for a long time. Or did the news go out of color?
  34. sazhka0
    +1
    28 September 2012 07: 37
    Two people drag on a site. (or three) Sorry Spender ..
  35. Novosibirsky
    +7
    28 September 2012 08: 26
    Somehow, everything is stupid on our collective farm ... There is nothing more to say.

    Although perhaps something is ...
    VVP trolls us, not otherwise. "Fuck away" "Swifts", and at the same time teach the Yamal Siberian Cranes to fly .., this is .., calling things by their proper names - high treason.

    “Once again, I remember Agnia Barto's poem“ Portrait of Volodya. ”The famous poetess could not even imagine that her nursery rhyme would come true.

    Magazine photography -
    A detachment sits by the fire.
    You did not recognize Volodya?
    He sat in the front row.

    Runners are on the photo.
    With numbers on the chest.
    Ahead of someone you know -
    This is Vova ahead.

    Volodya was shot on weeding,
    And on holiday, on the tree,
    And on a boat by the river
    And at the chessboard.

    He was shot with a hero pilot!
    We will open another magazine
    He stands among the swimmers.
    Who is he in the end?
    What does he do?
    The fact that he is removed! "(C)
    1. Oleg0705
      -3
      28 September 2012 18: 22
      Quote: NovoSibirets
      Magazine photo


      And whose would you like to see there?
      And if you can explain to me how in the comments above "everything is bad, everything is lost, there is nothing to defend with." If this is true, then why hasn't Russia been occupied, conquered, enslaved and destroyed? NSW does not count, many have it.
      The question is not only for you.
      my -
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        28 September 2012 20: 54
        Quote: Oleg0705
        The question is not only for you.

        Good evening Oleg.
        The answer is on my profile on August 31 at 22:34, discussion of the article "Is Putin Following Milosevic's Path", the penultimate paragraph, the rest is the rationale.
  36. +1
    28 September 2012 09: 16
    the pilots themselves began to go on guard and perform other functions that previously performed ordinary
    __________________________________________
    Common situation. Only here, with the advent of the Emergency Committee in the management of the 8th Guards. OA chief of staff and first deputy commander of the former commanders of "tamanka" and "cantemirovka", senior officers were "armed" with brooms.

    Quote: andrei332809
    something they have not been for a long time.

    In continuing education courses, after which, with all their principles, they will begin to reveal certain shortcomings ... lol
  37. +2
    28 September 2012 10: 22
    I think that, in the understanding of Taburetkin and K, it’s precisely something similar that is the ideal aerobatic team .. But what, the airfield is not needed, everything is quiet and calm .. It would have been all fun if it hadn’t been so sad ..

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