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Why the Russian army in Ukraine is not greeted with flowers

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The military special operation carried out by Russia on the territory of Ukraine presents many surprises, one of which is the fierce resistance of both the Ukrainian army and nationalist paramilitary formations, and the wary, and sometimes hostile attitude of the inhabitants of Ukraine towards Russian troops. The current situation is fundamentally different from the events of 2014, when the population, especially in the South-East, massively welcomed unity with Russia and sought to become under the Russian flag.


A natural question arises: what happened and why did the attitude of the Ukrainian population towards Russia change so dramatically? To answer this question, it is necessary to understand what the Ukrainian society is like, what kind of government manages it and in whose interests it works.

Formation of a Russophobic Ukrainian state


Within the framework of the current political system, the neo-Nazi "native" government, formed by the oligarchic clans and reformatted by the Americans in the interests of creating a Russophobic springboard for putting pressure on Russia, rules in Ukraine.
The Americans have achieved complete control over the country and, at their own discretion, in their own interests, establish "native" power there, legitimizing it through the so-called elections.

The modern Ukrainian government is largely represented by characters with inferiority complexes, vicious, despicable and partly insane, who do not understand what power is and “made their way” there in violation of all norms of the social hierarchy for personal gain. The basis for the formation of the ruling class was and is the most underdeveloped and notorious population of Galicia, leading its ancestry from Polish serfs and seeking to impose its miserable worldview with cave Russophobia on the entire population of Ukraine. Of course, there are decent people among them, but they do not determine the weather.

The authorities formed by the oligarchic clans and the Americans solved the problem of reformatting Ukrainian society into a reserve of Russophobia, fiercely hating everything Russian. Russophobic policy became the basis for the existence of the state.

The primitive idea of ​​the otherness of Ukrainians from the all-Russian cultural tree has been hammered into their heads for decades and constantly fueled by horse doses of injections of Russophobia, because without this it was impossible to avoid the natural attraction to each other of the two branches of one people, due to their common origin, history, culture and faith.

All this was formed with the help of massive and deceitful propaganda, which is based on repeatedly repeated lies, remembered by people when alternative information is blocked. It is impossible to find a positive opinion about Russia in the Ukrainian information space, where it is seen as an attempt to justify the enemy.

The political class was called upon to break the Russian legacy not only in government, but most importantly, in the public consciousness in order to tear the new generation away from the common historical past with Russia. The Americans set a goal to turn the page of the common history of Russia and Ukraine, finally break the deep Russian roots and implement the project of creating anti-Russia from Ukraine, for which invented myths and legends about the exclusivity of the “Ukrainian nation” were introduced into the mass consciousness, opposing Ukraine to the Russian state.

It should also not be forgotten that, in addition to the prevailing political, mental and spiritual contradictions, the relations between Galicia and the South-East were superimposed by the deepest civilizational and ethno-political rift, making it impossible to live together peacefully in a single state. The ruling class nevertheless adopted the civilizational preferences of Galicia and led the country to disaster.

The policy of brainwashing and brainwashing with hatred, inciting paranoia and pitting people against each other worked in ideal conditions of information terror, total censorship and control over the media, and gave its results. In many ways, over the past eight years, this problem has been solved, and the majority of the population has become simply a zombie. There was a dehumanization of the population of Ukraine and its transformation into a fierce beast that hates Russia and is ready to torment it.

Within the framework of the system, there could not be and are not independent and, all the more so, pro-Russian politicians; those who were too independent were squeezed out of politics or life. Naturally, there are no systemic political forces in the country capable of organizing the masses, stopping this madness and changing the vector of the country's development. Ukraine became an existential enemy of Russia, it was impossible to reformat it from within, a surgical operation from the outside was urgently required, as a result of which a Russian special operation followed.

The noble goals of the operation to close the anti-Russia project and liberate Ukraine from the neo-Nazi regime, for many objective and subjective reasons, were not communicated to the Ukrainian population. The operation that had begun in terms of its impact on the consciousness of the Ukrainian population increased the negative attitude towards Russia. This was due to the fact that on the eve of dill propaganda for a long time drove into everyone's heads the idea that Russia was preparing to attack Ukraine in order to eliminate its statehood and was gathering troops to its borders.

Military hysteria was intensified in the Ukrainian information space with the spread of videos with Russian echelons of military equipment being transferred to the western borders. On the eve of the introduction of Russian troops in Ukrainian society, an atmosphere of rejection of Russian troops as liberators had already been created. The society was psychologically prepared for the "invasion of the Russian aggressor" and considered the launched special operation from this point of view. With the growth of hostilities and the inevitable losses, this idea was strongly and purposefully imposed.

Considering that the special operation began without a clear reason under the slogan of protecting the Donbass, the Ukrainian side, in order to mobilize the population to repel the “aggressor”, played well and inflated the myth of the “Russian hordes” that treacherously invaded a defenseless country from all directions. Such an informational tactic justified itself, the media heavily advertised how the population throughout Ukraine was standing in lines, signing up for the defense, where they were immediately given weapon (the patriotic wave in some places really took place).

Inevitable costs of military operation


Any military operation inevitably leads to destruction, including destruction of civilian infrastructure and the death of civilians. No matter how the Russian army tried to avoid this, it did not work out, they had to respond to the provocations of the Ukronazis. Avoiding direct clashes with the Russian army, they began to create fortified areas in cities, placing military equipment in residential areas and hiding behind civilians as a shield, shelling Russian positions, provoking return fire.

Mutual exchanges of artillery and MLRS strikes led to the destruction and death of city residents, and the Ukronazis often deliberately fired on residential areas, blaming the Russian army for this. Such tactics were successfully used by dill propaganda to whip up Russophobic hysteria. A network of websites and Telegram channels was created in advance, distributing mostly false information about “Russian barbarians”, deliberately destroying civilians and not sparing even children. Social networks and official media were filled with video footage of burning houses and the bodies of the dead with obligatory comments about the “aggressiveness” of the Russian world, curses against the Russians and calls for revenge on the invaders.

A well-thought-out and organized propaganda campaign with strong support from the West lay on fertile ground, a completely dumbfounded, frightened and disoriented population, faced with a real war and death, consolidated in an effort to resist the "aggressor". Already the vast majority has a sharply negative view of Russia, considers it guilty of unleashing the conflict and is ready to resist, which the Ukrainian authorities skillfully use.

What kind of support for the Russian troops can we talk about if everything works to reject the Russian world and perceive it as an existential enemy. Every day, people face tragedy, they are under real shelling, causing the death of their loved ones, fires, destruction of houses and destruction of acquired property. Many suffer disasters and hardships, there are no food and medicines. For a simple layman, it doesn’t matter who shoots, while the entire information space keeps saying that these are the crimes of Russian aggressors, and they need to take revenge. There is no alternative information, and people believe the sophisticated lies imposed by dill propaganda.

In addition, the Russian information space is focused on the Russian audience, creating the image of the Ukrainian population as incapable of defending their rights and surrendering to the Ukronazi regime. There is no one to support the population, all political forces there are only Ukronazi and Russophobic in orientation. The so-called pro-Russian party of Medvedchuk OPPL is pure bluff, its leaders ensure only their own business interests, and in their mentality they are not at all supporters of Russian unity, but only champions of “integration into Europe” on any terms.

Hopes that Russian troops in Ukraine would be greeted as liberators were absolutely groundless, opinion polls in recent years clearly recorded the growing rejection of Russia, and with every day of the military conflict, the population, seeing the disasters that befell it, became more and more hardened. This is a natural process in any society, most of the inhabitants are far from high matters and big politics, they want to live in normal conditions and not live in poverty, and the war does not choose the right and the wrong, everyone suffers, while Russia was appointed the culprit.

The West achieved its goal, dragged two branches of the Russian people into a fratricidal conflict, educating and bringing the Russophobic elite to power in Ukraine ahead of time and laying in Ukrainian society poisonous vibes of hatred for everything Russian, as well as a readiness to fight and destroy their fellow tribesmen. Sobering up will not come soon and will be difficult.

The operation is progressing well, albeit with delays. It was not possible to quickly solve the problem of Ukraine, and it was hardly possible. After the military phase, a long process of denazification will follow, associated with bringing Ukrainian society to its senses and depriving it of illusions about the disinterested support of the West. We will have to return people to their historical roots, clearing the authorities of obvious apologists for Ukronazism and forming a new elite that defends Russian unity.
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  1. Carat
    Carat 22 March 2022 14: 16
    +19
    The basis for the formation of the ruling class was and is the most underdeveloped and notorious population of Galicia, leading its ancestry from Polish serfs and seeking to impose its miserable worldview with cave Russophobia on the entire population of Ukraine.


    Can't be more precise and specific.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 22 March 2022 14: 26
      +35
      All sane people in Russia did not expect a meeting of our troops with flowers in Ukraine, Bandera propaganda was too powerfully brainwashing them. Therefore, only the complete denazification of Ukraine will give a result only after a few years of anti-fascist propaganda.
      1. Carat
        Carat 22 March 2022 14: 30
        +40
        With flowers would be met in 2014.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 22 March 2022 14: 37
          +10
          would be greeted with flowers in 2014.
          This was said even by the most repulsed trolls from the censor.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 March 2022 15: 08
            +5
            Quote: Carat
            The basis for the formation of the ruling class was and is the most underdeveloped and notorious population of Galicia, leading its ancestry from Polish serfs and seeking to impose its miserable worldview with cave Russophobia on the entire population of Ukraine.

            Only 6-10% of the active paranoid-politically preoccupied population makes revolutions and coup d'état in the country! The rest of the population is only a subject for them to apply their efforts to achieve the specific goals of their coup.

            A pageThe desire for power is always motivated by the desire of people to organize, distribute and protect property themselves. in the country. Namely.

            Organize property means to determine what exactly of public property - material and spiritual goods - is or can be property, as such, in a given country and society in general.
            distribute property - to establish what exactly and to whom as property should belong in society and who should manage it.
            Guard property - to force everyone in society to comply with the established property and legal order.

            And this is done, of course, from the position of property and national interests of those 6-10% of the participants in the coup d'etat who are actively involved in this.
            Passive population does not understand this and, as a rule, massively turns into obedient hostages of small-town anarchist-adventurers armed to the teeth with a socially underdeveloped psyche.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 22 March 2022 17: 37
              +11
              Why the Russian army in Ukraine is not greeted with flowers

              I suppose that such a formulation of the question is now technically not entirely correct and politically pro-Western. Namely.

              First of all. What colors can we talk about now in general?
              There are no flowers in the fields yet, the fields are mined by the Armed Forces with unexploded shells. APU destroy social infrastructure. The population of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is driven into the basements of houses without water and food.
              Fights are going on and will continue to go on in the country - and the victory over the Nazis has not yet fully come. The emaciated survivors under the shelling are simply tearfully glad to be rescued.

              And secondly, the following must be taken into account.
              The Kiev authorities, especially since 2014, divide the entire population of Ukraine into "us" and "them". It was the Russians, against whom a real GENOCIDE was unfolded in Ukraine, that were referred and still are referred to as foreign authorities. Even Zelensky did not classify Russians as "indigenous" peoples of Ukraine!
              As a result, what to do with those who were against such a policy of Kyiv in Ukraine? And the majority of people took a conformist position - not to contradict the Bandera-Nazi authorities of Kyiv in Ukraine. This in their minds resulted in the fact that it is possible to kill Russians in the Donbass - they completely agreed with this. But when the fighting came to their territory, to their homes, then in terms of retribution for their aggression, they do not feel their guilt before the Russians in the Donbass! And they don't want to admit it.
              And when there is neither understanding of one's guilt, nor repentance for it, then what kind of welcoming flowers can we talk about?! Especially in this situational situation of an incomplete victory over the Nazis, when Bandero-punishers can still suddenly return!

              Since 2014, the Nazis have been actively brainwashing the population of Ukraine in a fascist way for 8 years! And someone now naively thinks that in 3 weeks the worldview can be immediately reflashed and reprofiled! It doesn't happen, but it's getting there.

              As for whether or not Ukrainians greet the Russian Armed Forces with flowers, then personally I don’t care about the word at all. Insofar as The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are compelled and quite rightly fulfill their military duty on the territory of Ukraine to protect the national security of their homeland - Russia. And this is their main task of the military operation on the territory of Ukraine.
              1. accordionist
                accordionist 24 March 2022 16: 45
                +3
                The reality is that even having occupied the city, we do not have power there. Because Bandera is still allowed to do whatever they want there. And any of the pro-Russian citizens for 8 years remembered what happens to those who support Russia. As an example, Odessa May 2 and Oles Buzina. It is necessary to create self-defense units from those who support Russia, to strengthen them with staunch guys from the Donbass. How to equip . Then there will be a loyal government on the ground. A rifle gives birth to power and nothing else. And all local pro-Bandera elements must be identified and arrested as soon as possible. There will be a lot. Some after sitting will come to their senses. the rest will have to be denazified. Identify all the organizers and accomplices and punish very severely for any actions against the authorities. Then people will stop being afraid. And they will begin to meet with flowers without fear that tomorrow they will kill you. And now everyone who is for Russia has either left Ukraine or is afraid because they know that around them there are a lot of their previously close acquaintances and friends who, due to the heat of hysteria and brainwashing, will simply kill them for any support of the Russian army.
              2. syndicalist
                syndicalist 26 March 2022 15: 10
                0
                A little wrong. The ethnic composition of both sides is almost identical. In many areas, practically only Russians are fighting on the Ukrainian side. Each belligerent side accuses the opposite of fascism, Nazism, genocide of the civilian population, and God knows what else. And each believes that the population of the opposite side is zombified by state propaganda.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 26 March 2022 15: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: syndicalist
                  The ethnic composition of both sides is almost identical. In many areas, practically only Russians are fighting on the Ukrainian side.

                  It is not the Russians who are fighting on the Ukrainian side, but the Russians - that is. people who have already abandoned their Russian nationality, national degenerates of the Russian people and ethnic traitors to the Russian people and Russian civilization, its history and culture.

                  Episode 72 meter Janissaries Farewell of the Slav
                  1. syndicalist
                    syndicalist 26 March 2022 17: 39
                    -1
                    What name would not be invented for these people, but there are no other Russians there today.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 26 March 2022 19: 15
                      0
                      Quote: syndicalist
                      What name would not be invented for these people, but there are no other Russians there today.
                      So much the worse for non-Russians! Nerus for their WAR CRIMES is not subject to pardon.
                      However, in Ukraine there are not only vyrusi, but also otrusi. Chop off in Ukraine much more than piss off. Namely.

                      REFERENCE
                      1. nerus - The totality of peoples, classes, social groups, as well as professional, confessional and other communities, seeking to subdue, suppress or even destroy the Russians as a people and Russia as an independent state.
                      The reasons for this desire can be different:
                      starting from quite rational, economic considerations (for example, the desire to "rob") and ending irrational absolutely unfounded, "animal" hatred for everything Russian.

                      2. blow out is a person of Russian origin who lost his Russian identity and joined the Nerus. Vyrus does not include people who were not carriers of Russian identity.

                      2. There is another term. fuck off - a person or people who have lost their Russian identity, nabout not joining, unlike Vyrus, to Nerus.

                      Historically, the word "vyrus" takes its derogatory origin from the great Poles from the time of the Polonization of the enslaved Russians on the territory of present-day Western Ukraine back in the days of the dominance of the Commonwealth and its advance to the east. Their task was to divide the Russians into "us" and "them", to destroy the Russian people in parts.
                      1. syndicalist
                        syndicalist 26 March 2022 19: 42
                        0
                        If in Ukraine we have only "nerus" and "vyrus", then which of them do we liberate?
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 26 March 2022 19: 58
                        +1
                        We liberate Russians in the DPR and LPR, as well as Otrus in Ukraine from GENOCIDE by Vyrus and the fascist non-Russians of Ukraine in the US PROXY war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine.

                        We are also carrying out the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine in order to protect the national security of Russia itself, as the victorious Red Army did in Germany in 1945.

                        Not everything is lost for the peoples of Ukraine in Ukraine in the future. Healthy forces will surely be reborn. I believe in it.

                        Flash mob at the railway station in Zaporozhye. Spring on Zarechnaya Street. 2016
                        83 participants and a chapel sang the iconic song for Zaporozhye from the legendary Soviet film of 1956 "Spring on Zarechnaya Street".
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 22 March 2022 14: 38
          +10
          Alas, was Russia ready for such large-scale sanctions in 2014 as it is now? As practice shows, there are many shortcomings even now, but many shortcomings have been eliminated during this time. I don’t know, on the one hand, as they say, strike while the iron is hot , on the other hand, a multiple BUT. The fifth column of officials at all levels has not yet been cleared, there remains dependence in a number of areas. I believe we will break through, there is no turning back, but it is time to act tougher and more decisively in domestic politics. More than the West has already condemned, everything they won’t judge anyway, here you can already put it on their opinion.
          1. Carat
            Carat 22 March 2022 14: 42
            -11
            Quote: VORON538
            .Was Russia ready for such large-scale sanctions in 2014 as it is now?


            So I think that in 2014 the Russian economy would have collapsed under the sanctions. And now she stepped back a little, but she stood on her feet.
            1. BIABIA
              BIABIA 22 March 2022 15: 32
              +4
              There would be no such carnage. The issue would be resolved quickly. The Westerners would not have had time to powder their brains with bombed-out schools / children. gardens. Vova drew conclusions from his indecision. Helped Lukashenka, then Kazakhstan.
              1. mikh-korsakov
                mikh-korsakov 22 March 2022 16: 18
                +7
                Ivan. I thought for a long time about the possibility of winning in 2014. It's not about indecision. If you remember, the Federation Council gave the GDP consent to the introduction of troops into Ukraine. BUT. The dependence on the West was then too great even in the simplest terms, the Russian map of the World was created after 2014. In terms of food, foreign products dominate in trade. The RF Armed Forces have not yet been fully equipped with weapons for modern non-contact warfare and have not gone through the Syrian school. You are right in the sense that the West was not then consolidated as it is now, but at the same time, even limited sanctions over Crimea and Boeing were sensitive. Now, I believe, the current events were forced, I am sure that our leadership was aware of the mood in Ukraine, and as for the sanctions consequences, the West painted them in detail almost daily. And yet Putin decided to take this step. Knowing him as a very cautious politician, I believe that this step was forcedly necessary, what exactly was the reason for the step in such a volume of the operation, I don’t know, but SHE was undoubtedly significant
                1. Elephant
                  Elephant 24 March 2022 13: 04
                  +3
                  Quote: mikh-korsakov
                  The RF Armed Forces have not yet been fully equipped with weapons for modern non-contact warfare

                  But Ukraine at that time was not equipped with NATO weapons, and was not trained by their instructors. It is significant that in 2014 in the Crimea, the Ukrainian military units and fleet simply capitulated
            2. Cosm22
              Cosm22 22 March 2022 16: 28
              +10
              Quote: Carat
              So I think that in 2014 the Russian economy would have collapsed under the sanctions. And now she stepped back a little, but she stood on her feet.

              Oh is it? Resist?
              What, is it already evening? Or does the West not have the next package of sanctions at hand?
              Not only is it not evening yet, but not even the end of the morning. And the main surprises are yet to come.
              As for the essence of the article, after the bombing and shelling of residential areas, it was naive to hope for flowers.
              So it seems to me alone that the most stupid tactic of the so-called liberation was chosen?
              Residents of the South-East of Ukraine have always treated Russia most warmly and tolerantly. What now? After the mass death of their relatives and friends?
              Now Russia has received in these regions only the hatred of local residents for it. And it's not for years. Not even for decades. This is already imprinted in the genetic memory.
              1. House 25 Sq. 380
                House 25 Sq. 380 24 March 2022 13: 00
                0
                "Ukrainian", green, red and white, the Red Army and the UPA, the NKVD and the fists enthusiastically cut each other on the territory of Ukraine for 30 years in a row ....
                And by the 70s, everyone got married among themselves and lived in peace ...
                No need to over-dramatize...
                If you look back at the history of the Russian people, internal conflicts are the norm, not the exception ....
                The ancestors of today's Russians with the ancestors of today's Belarusians were slaughtered for 400 years in a row ...
                Does it interfere with us somehow now at the household level?
        3. Machito
          Machito 22 March 2022 14: 42
          +3
          Quote: Carat
          With flowers would be met in 2014.

          Hardly. But at that time, everything would have been much simpler, because the Armed Forces of Ukraine were not yet elbow-deep in Russian blood.
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 22 March 2022 15: 36
            -4
            Quote: Bearded
            Quote: Carat
            With flowers would be met in 2014.

            Hardly. But at that time, everything would have been much simpler, because the Armed Forces of Ukraine were not yet elbow-deep in Russian blood.
            Everything would not have been much easier, because even then the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not have a commander-in-chief who was ready to defend the interests of Ukraine, and not the United States, and then we did not have such resources to resist the United States and their satellites (+ ISIS, + they would have set fire to the Republic of Belarus, RK and Karabakh), as now. In 2014, things could have been much more difficult.
        4. Driller
          Driller 22 March 2022 19: 49
          +1
          would be greeted with flowers in 2014.
          --------
          Hello. Perhaps the Kazakh version was quite possible. Yanukovych should only be left in Donetsk, and not graze in Rostov ...
        5. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 24 March 2022 05: 42
          0
          Yes, it’s also unlikely there ... Judging by the number of Aries on the forums since 2014, there, too, not everyone would have met ...
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 22 March 2022 14: 46
        +54
        They do not meet for an obvious reason - the authorities of the Russian Federation do not at all demonstrate that they have come forever. There are some negotiations, nonsense about an independent Ukraine .. Natsiks are not shot, and they are not even caught, the symbols are not removed, even commandants are not appointed.

        Therefore, people are estimating - you will play enough and leave, and then we will have to live with banderlogs .. They will cut us if we just stick out. Do we need it?

        Excuse me - THIS is how they do not establish their power. If you want people to believe you, show your strength. Give the Nazis so that the guts under the ceiling. Otherwise, this whole type of special operation is just garbage. And nothing good will end.
        1. Alien From
          Alien From 22 March 2022 17: 05
          +10
          I agree with you a million percent!
        2. Anyuta Glorious
          Anyuta Glorious 22 March 2022 18: 36
          +12
          This is the most annoying thing. I don't understand what's next and how? What's the point of coming and then leaving? Let it be as it is? There will be another mode...
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 22 March 2022 21: 46
          -1
          If anything, in the liberated territories, the National Guard and OMON carry out sweeps 24 hours a day every day and are engaged in identifying everyone who helped the Nazis in attacks, but they are looking for caches of weapons and ammunition.
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 24 March 2022 01: 09
            0
            Reveal and what, to the wall or by stage? According to the laws of wartime, the enemy, with weapons in his hands, is guilty and the guilt of his evidence does not require. From that and in the name of what is happening, there is no name for war. If this is not a war, then the return of the rebellious territories. After all, no one canceled the results of the referendum on the preservation of the USSR, and education, on the outskirts of Russia, has no right to exist. But first, the usurpers allowed the country to be split in 91m, and then in the 14th, the wrestlers screwed up, recognizing the coup. Now we slurp everything with a full spoon. But since we started, it is necessary to bring it to the end. After all, it’s not only in the outskirts that the matter is. Globally, the world is being redistributed. I don't care how the zombies will treat us there. They themselves could not strangle the Nazi evil spirits, let them sit and shake further. For now, our guys are doing it for them.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 22 March 2022 15: 25
        +6
        Quote: Thought Giant
        All sane people in Russia did not expect a meeting of our troops with flowers in Ukraine, Bandera propaganda was too powerfully brainwashing them.

        As my father and his brothers said, when the fighting began outside the USSR, in Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia and other countries Russian soldiers were met with flowers everywhere, but in Germany our soldiers were not met with flowers anywhere.
      4. uwzek
        uwzek 23 March 2022 17: 37
        0
        Propaganda is carried out by the Nazisification of the population. Denazification is carried out through public executions, and not in a few years ...
    2. January
      January 22 March 2022 14: 30
      +50
      They only forgot to mention the unintelligible policy of Russia in the "special operation". "The special operation of the Russian Federation is not aimed at a change of power, at the division of Ukraine." How is it perceived by the population of Ukraine?
      All who now lay down their arms and remain in this country in the eyes of the remaining authorities will become deserters. Anyone who helps the Russian troops will become a traitor.
      Even if Russia announced the "cancellation" of Ukraine and the official occupation (which of course will never happen), the Russian Federation would have more allies in / on the square. Because people would understand what will happen next, some supported, some did not.
      In the meantime, Russia will not decide on the future status of this country, the population of this country will try to comply with its laws. Just to survive right now.
      1. 17085
        17085 22 March 2022 15: 28
        -27
        They only forgot to mention the unintelligible policy of Russia in the "special operation".

        It is perceived as the lowing of a cow in a meadow. As a native Russian speaker, I had to re-read it several times. Can you explain what it's about? What did you mean? What is unintelligible to you?
        "The special operation of the Russian Federation is not aimed at a change of power, at the division of Ukraine." How is it perceived by the population of Ukraine?

        I hear it for the first time. A lot of new things in one sentence. Who said that? Only with a link please. Preferably an official.
        In the meantime, Russia will not decide on the future status of this country, the population of this country will try to comply with its laws. Just to survive right now.

        You are definitely from the moon. Look for the link to the previous question, you will find the answer to this one. On account of criminal laws, tell the defendants at the Nuremberg trials.
        1. January
          January 22 March 2022 15: 38
          +15
          If it sounds like a lowing, tense up. Judging by the reviews, the vast majority of the text, unlike you, mastered it.
          An unintelligible position is the absence of a clear program. So clearer?
          “The tasks of the special operation do not include the occupation of the country, the destruction of its statehood and the overthrow of the current government. It is not directed against the civilian population,” Zakharova stressed during the briefing. I hope for you this is not an aunt from the bench?
          I hope a very clear answer to both questions at once. At the expense of criminal laws, tell this to any people living in the legal field of any acting state. If the proposal again seemed too complicated for you, my condolences.
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 22 March 2022 15: 52
            -24
            Quote: ian
            Judging by the reviews, the vast majority of the text, unlike you, mastered it.
            Are you talking about pluses? It only means that there are a lot of bots registered on the site.
            1. January
              January 22 March 2022 15: 54
              +12
              Well, your answer might say the same :)
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 22 March 2022 15: 58
                -17
                The special operation of the Russian Federation, indeed, is not aimed at a change of power and at the division of Ukraine; they are just the means necessary to denazify and guarantee our security.
                1. January
                  January 22 March 2022 15: 59
                  +6
                  Wonderful. Glad you agree.
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            2. January
              January 22 March 2022 15: 55
              -1
              What do the minuses mean? Real readers?
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 22 March 2022 16: 09
                -3
                Quote: ian
                What do the minuses mean?
                Against (dislike).
                1. January
                  January 22 March 2022 16: 12
                  +5
                  That is, the plus signs are a lot of bots, and the minus signs are real people who didn’t like it? Thanks. hi And people who agree and support do not come here?
                  1. sniperino
                    sniperino 22 March 2022 16: 42
                    -1
                    Quote: ian
                    That is, the plus signs are a lot of bots, and the minus signs are real personalities
                    It can only be about my perception of the ratings under a specific comment. Your sophistical generalizations do not work here.
                    1. January
                      January 22 March 2022 16: 47
                      +3
                      My apologies. I didn't realize you were reaching out to me to share your perception. And I didn't generalize. I asked clarifying questions hi
                      1. sniperino
                        sniperino 22 March 2022 16: 50
                        -4
                        Quote: ian
                        you contacted me to share your perception
                        Not at all. To contrast your perception with yours:
                        Quote: ian Today, 15:38
                        Judging by the reviews, the vast majority of the text, unlike you, mastered it.
                      2. January
                        January 22 March 2022 16: 53
                        +1
                        Thanks. Your feedback is very important to us.
                      3. sniperino
                        sniperino 22 March 2022 16: 54
                        -5
                        Quote: ian
                        Thanks. Your feedback is very important to us.
                        I noticed. Get in touch, just a little.
          2. Sadam
            Sadam 22 March 2022 16: 21
            +4
            Okay, I'm not clear to the fool ...
            But Solovyov Kedmi and the main propagandists are at a loss where the final Reichstag is ... And what are the steps after the war ...
            Let's try to outline something from Peskov voiced by Zakharova Likashenko ... Russian second language ... official ban on Azov ... Zelya in power ... annexation of the coast to the Crimea (or at least take Mariupol away) ... non-bloc ...
            ??
            Why don’t they form our goals point by point, until we reach the end, we won’t leave .. ???
            1. January
              January 22 March 2022 16: 25
              +4
              Unfortunately, this question is not for me. I am in the same ignorance. Address it to the government or commentators like 17085 (Dmitriy). At least the latter is sure that he knows the answer.
            2. Pertussis
              Pertussis April 9 2022 20: 29
              0
              Why don’t they form our goals point by point, we won’t leave until we fulfill it
              ................................................. ................................................. ................................................. ............................... If you are hinting at Afghanistan, then we definitely do not need this. Afghanistan is one of the reasons for the collapse of the CCCP
          3. 17085
            17085 22 March 2022 18: 35
            -8
            Is the presence of allied troops on the territory of the state an occupation? As a result, the destruction of statehood will not be required.
            What "policy" (literally in your text) do you expect from the special operation? As for me, first of all, to discourage the desire to ride tanks and pick up everything that shoots.
            At the expense of criminal laws, tell this to any people living in the legal field of any acting state. If the proposal again seemed too complicated for you, my condolences.

            Pure demagogy. What norms of the law authorized the destruction of people in concentration camps? Maybe there are countries in which people are allowed to be shot without trial or investigation? Tell us, under what law did Lyazhko grab people on the street and torture them, then post videos on the Internet? What legal field are you talking about?
            1. January
              January 22 March 2022 18: 50
              +4
              You have already said above that as a native speaker of Russian, it is difficult for you to understand what is written the first time. Therefore, the discussion will not be supported.
              Well, you titled the second part of your opus yourself - pure demagogy. I won't even add anything to this.
              Except that the person with the surname "Lyazhko" is unknown to me.
              All the best to you hi
              1. 17085
                17085 22 March 2022 18: 59
                -8
                There was no discussion as such. From your side, speech errors, trolling and demagogy.
                1. January
                  January 22 March 2022 19: 16
                  +6
                  Moreover, there is no point in continuing it. Pay attention to your own grammar and all the best again.
          4. Sadam
            Sadam 22 March 2022 21: 11
            +6
            I don’t understand what is happening either ... Lavrov Zakharova is voiced what Putin ordered ... But he is voicing the opposite to the citizens of the Russian Federation. As I understand it, we formulate the agenda and goals of this war in the course of advancing success or prolonging the war and external factors
            1. January
              January 22 March 2022 21: 16
              +7
              This is what is called "a vague political position."
        2. Vincent price
          Vincent price 22 March 2022 16: 37
          0
          This Putin has repeatedly said, do not be too lazy to use the search engine yourself
          1. Sadam
            Sadam 22 March 2022 17: 07
            +10
            Here it is the main problem ... He speaks in slogans that no one understands ... Demilitarization of denazification ... But it’s necessary like Minsk 2. Here is this and that, point by point, here is the sequence ... at least people would have a concrete idea both there and here ....
            carry flowers or a grenade launcher depends on the tasks of the liberators
    3. Nikolay1987
      Nikolay1987 22 March 2022 14: 32
      +6
      the human masses are ruled by the ruling classes who project their economic failures on an external threat (well, really, don't point the finger at yourself). The nationalists rallied around the face, in order to retain power by their masters, adopt a radical ideology - Nazism.
      Nothing new. All this has already happened.
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  2. 9PA
    9PA 22 March 2022 14: 19
    +12
    Everything is the same for the Russian Federation.
  3. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 22 March 2022 14: 20
    +6
    The further we go, the less and less we believe that we are capable of breaking the wave of Western propaganda, Russophobia and fakes.
    It was necessary from the very beginning to disable cell towers, communication and Internet systems throughout Ukraine.
    But we are polite and kind, and to this day we allow to influence the brainwashed brains of Russians under the false guise of Ukrainians.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 March 2022 15: 32
      -5
      Quote: mojohed2012
      But we are polite and kind, and to this day we allow to influence the brainwashed brains of Russians under the false guise of Ukrainians.

      It's just that Russia needs to do what it started, and bring it to the intended end, without lisping and looking to the west. Planned - and go ahead. ".... we have no other way, we have a rifle in our hands."
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      1. January
        January 22 March 2022 16: 20
        +5
        Such as you.
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          1. January
            January 22 March 2022 16: 52
            +1
            As you can see. In Mariupol, people like you are already coming to an end.
        2. Carat
          Carat 22 March 2022 16: 50
          0
          People like him should be sent to the forced restoration of bridges blown up by the Nazis.
      2. Junanhai
        Junanhai 22 March 2022 17: 31
        0
        You have lied and lie about the aims of the war, you have lied and lie about nuclear weapons in Ukraine, you have lied and lie about biological laboratories in Ukraine, you are destroying cities - by the way, with a predominantly Russian-speaking population.

        And they bashfully call the war a "military operation"! The truth is not on their side, they will not be able to defeat you! So don't be ashamed, everyone who is not in Zelevizor understands what is happening! Yes, and many who are inside began to think, the article hints at that.
        What were you going to "break"?!

        I want to express my admiration for the resilience of your people! You surprised the whole world by bravely resisting one of the strongest armies! Even if they take more territories, they won't be able to hold for long. Each loss strengthens your determination to fight, and they are exactly the opposite! The world will be more powerful to help you, and the sanctions will be tightened more and more. Your people have clearly proved that they deserve to live freely! Such people are invincible!
        1. Evgen Medenko
          Evgen Medenko 22 March 2022 18: 36
          +3
          Thank you!
    3. House 25 Sq. 380
      House 25 Sq. 380 24 March 2022 13: 05
      0
      Why ruin cell towers when there is a starlink?
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 22 March 2022 14: 20
    -14
    Until we add the last Nazi nits, there can be no talk of any conversations with the locals. Khikhel homemaidanilis!
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 22 March 2022 14: 20
    +3
    Why the Russian army in Ukraine is not greeted with flowers
    . The information war was not in our favor, for objective and subjective reasons.
    For this, it will be very hard to pay for all of us, without much separation, now!
    The winners, at this stage, are only the enemies of the Russian world!
    It is worth recognizing this, recognizing it and acting much smarter, more persistently and more concretely than it was done before.
    Good luck and peace to all of us!
    1. Luenkov
      Luenkov 22 March 2022 14: 33
      +5
      Are we late everywhere by chance?; Question? Chubai is still running...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 March 2022 14: 40
        +10
        So I would like to remind you about Zurabov, about MANY others !!!
        There were a lot of mistakes, to put it mildly ... in my opinion, it was incompetence at the level of betrayal !!!
        As it started with the labeled one, it started like that .... although, it started earlier, if you start to understand everything more carefully.
        One thing must not be forgotten, we ourselves are to blame for everything ...
        This is also an assessment, both objective and subjective ... let everyone think for himself and decide whether it is worth blaming all the blame on one "red devil" or a whole "damn landing" was sent to us from the underworld and messed up ???
      2. tank64rus
        tank64rus 22 March 2022 16: 53
        -1
        Venediktov this year ..... they say they have already found a position in government agencies. Hence our troubles. It is high time to wet the 5th column in co ... ah. Otherwise, we are the Khan.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 March 2022 23: 00
          +2
          I don’t know about dandelion’s grandfather, but the fifth column ... everything is very relative!
          In each case, you need to understand!
          Without criticism, internal stimuli, power and dinner have a habit of stopping listening to anyone but themselves loved ones! Therefore, there must be a pike in the pond, otherwise crucian carp will degenerate!!! no, no, such a prospect is no better .... there is a similar sad experience!
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 22 March 2022 19: 16
      +9
      Quote: rocket757
      The winners, at this stage, are only the enemies of the Russian world!

      Remind you which article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is called "Russian"? It may be worth it to first decide what the very Russian world is, then make it united, and not, as it is now, one thing for export, and you, dear scattered people, eat something completely different, and only then deal with the export of this very Russian world. Otherwise...
      Quote: rocket757
      The information war was not in our favor

      Otherwise, this phrase will not become a variable, but a constant.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 March 2022 20: 05
        -9
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        It may be worth it to start to decide what the very Russian world is, then make it one,

        Why reinvent the wheel ... Russian is not a line in the passport, but a state of mind!
        As in 1941, all together, the entire Russian world, all the children of one great homeland of the USSR, repulsed the enemy!!! This is the Russian world, but I don’t see it otherwise.
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 22 March 2022 21: 54
          +5
          Quote: rocket757
          Like in 1941

          That is unlikely. Polish tanks are not rushing towards Smolensk. And to repulse the enemy, who did not plan to attack you, is anything, but not the 41st.
          Quote: rocket757
          all together, by the whole Russian world, all the children of one great motherland of the USSR

          You don't have to lump everything together. Motherland and state are different concepts. And the Russian Federation is far from the USSR. Reasons and reasons for unity diligently does not give.
          Quote: rocket757
          This is the Russian world, but I don’t see it otherwise

          I can understand everything. You have your own views on the world, I have mine, but ... What does the word Russian have to do with it? Why not elven, or is there all nature amateur? How can the word Russian fit into your thoughts?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 March 2022 22: 11
            -1
            If you are a mechanic / metalworker, you can fit something to something ...
            Everything converges with me just like that, but in a different way ... everyone can have their own, special.
            The time is such that it is not necessary to live according to directives from above.
            1. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 22 March 2022 22: 23
              +6
              Quote: rocket757
              That's how it all works out for me, but...

              And you try differently. Call your world not Russian, but what it really is. The world loyal to the authorities is all-forgiving, then maybe you will understand why the information wars are lost, stably, and it’s not very easy to drive into the “Russian” world even with tanks.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 March 2022 22: 54
                -5
                Such karma ... to engage in verbiage for someone, to free someone, and then let go!
                Let's set it free, and then we'll see how all the verbiage will rush from there, faster than their screech ... not the first, and not the last time, but unfortunately.
                1. Lannan Shi
                  Lannan Shi 22 March 2022 23: 17
                  +6
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Here, let's free

                  They don't want to be released. We could release at 14. Now, alas, we can only capture.
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Karma is such ... someone to engage in verbiage

                  So maybe we won't do it? That's real. 3/4 countries of the world treat us negatively, 1/4 are neutral. And only 5 countries out of 180 .... And this is the result and the result of 20 years of our verbiage. Yes Yes. Understand. The whole Earth has gone crazy, only one normal - me. That's just with this approach to business, dying is comfortable. But life is not very good.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 23 March 2022 07: 30
                    -2
                    Quote: Lannan Shi
                    And only 5 countries out of 180....

                    It is better to have a couple of three respectable friends than those whose price is a nickel for a bunch.
                    Quote: Lannan Shi
                    That's just with this approach to business, dying is comfortable. But life is not very good.

                    Have you tried?
                    You need to live with dignity, what happened later ... everything that is necessary and will be.
                  2. Aleksandr21
                    Aleksandr21 23 March 2022 09: 45
                    +1
                    Quote: Lannan Shi
                    They don't want to be released. We could release at 14. Now, alas, we can only capture.


                    It all depends on the point of view and the correct presentation of information .... in 2010-2012 in the Donbass, too, the majority considered themselves Ukrainians, and after the well-known events of 2014, the pro-Ukrainian part of society left for other regions, and already in 2022, almost everyone who lives in the DPR and LPR consider themselves Russians and are part of our society (in linguistic / cultural / political / economic terms, etc.).

                    The same (if desired) can be done in other regions of the South-East of Ukraine, Kherson region, Zaporozhye, Kharkov, Odessa, etc. - control of the territory - the outflow of the pro-Ukrainian population to the Western regions of the country - and with those who remain, you need to work correctly, and in 10-15 years you will not find differences from the DPR and LPR in all areas.

                    3/4 of the countries of the world treat us negatively


                    As far as I know, most of the world's population lives in China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan and other Asian countries. You can also remember about South America, Africa, the Middle East .... who are neutral towards us or tacitly support us. Therefore, you should not be guided by the figures at the UN, where the United States gathers a coalition of countries and speaks for the whole world...

                    Yes, and many Western countries (second / third grade) have to go in the wake of American politics, do you think many people like the worsening living conditions at home? high inflation, rising prices for all goods + disruption of supply chains / business, etc ..... I think not. But it is not customary to talk about this in Europe. sovereignty was given to supranational structures and the population has to endure. (I remembered: "I like it, I don't like it - be patient, my beauty" (c)).
  6. Woodman
    Woodman 22 March 2022 14: 20
    +20
    Hopes that Russian troops in Ukraine would be greeted as liberators were absolutely groundless,
    Everything is easier. Several vague goals are announced to the public. The population does not understand what will happen after the end of the special operation. People are afraid that the Russian troops will come and go, the Nazis will return in one form or another, and all those who met the Russian army "with flowers" will have a bad time. Very bad.
    opinion polls of recent years have clearly recorded the growing rejection of Russia
    With opinion polls, the same trouble - today he spoke well of Russia in words, and tomorrow he was already arrested or simply disappeared.
    Therefore, it is necessary, albeit unofficially, but massively and plausibly to disseminate information that Ukraine will be annexed to Russia, that the Russians have come forever. I admit that in the conditions of confrontation with the collective West, the time for such official statements has not yet come.
    And if we just install a government loyal to Russia in Ukraine and leave, nothing good will come of it. The West does not recognize the new government. Will announce a blockade like the Russian one. And that means changing your lifestyle. And at first, not for the better. And from all the cracks it will pour propaganda into the ears that all their troubles are from the Russians. And as a result, in a few years we will get, at best, the same alignment that was before the 14th year. At worst, what we are fighting now will return.
    To avoid this, after restoring order and denazification, it will be necessary to hold a referendum and accept Ukraine as part of Russia. All. But by separate regions / republics. And then it's up to the economy and ... the right propaganda. A few years will be enough for the bulk of the population to become loyal. Just as gradually, under the influence of propaganda, the same population became loyal to the Nazis
    1. Luenkov
      Luenkov 22 March 2022 14: 27
      -9
      Only as part of Russia could the people be saved ... Now, after years of development and FEEDING of the Natsiks, is this not clear?
      1. Ol willy
        Ol willy 22 March 2022 16: 18
        +12
        And who will save the Russian people in Russia itself?
    2. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 22 March 2022 14: 39
      +4
      Will announce a blockade like the Russian one.
      Then all the disloyal will be thrown into the EU as refugees.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 22 March 2022 14: 47
        +3
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        all disloyal will be dumped in the EU

        In the EU, from Ukraine, even now they are trying to dump everyone who has even the slightest opportunity. But if you mean the moment "AFTER" the announcement of the blockade, then most likely the EU will simply not accept anyone.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 22 March 2022 15: 07
          +2
          won't accept anyone.
          They will announce their suffering in occupied Ukraine and break. According to the convention, they will have to be accepted. Although they are already trying to brush them aside - in Latvia, for example, comments under the news about their arrival are blocked - only unctuous articles are published how poor Olena and her daughter Tetyana arrived, found a job, thank Latvia and dream of returning back after the victory over Russia and going to rest in Crimea yes Uncleaned comments paint a different picture - Latvians (namely, Latvians - they won’t teach you to speak Latvian so well in courses) are very unwilling to see them.
          The Germans, on the other hand, remember the same sweet stories in the newspapers about industrious and grateful Negro-Arabs. laughing and they know well how it ended for Germany.
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 22 March 2022 15: 13
            +1
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Although now they are trying to brush aside

            I hinted at this. We also received information that the Baltic states are no longer able to receive them, that Germany is already asking not to let refugees pass in its direction. And not so long ago, the EU tried to decide how to distribute the Arab refugees by country.
            So it won't take long. And the EU does not care about conventions. All treaties and conventions are respected exactly as long as their observance is beneficial or at least not burdensome.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 22 March 2022 15: 16
              +2
              So it won't take long.
              Those who have already arrived will drag their own into the diaspora. They (by the way, like the notorious Negro-Arabs) feel their strength in numbers.
              1. Woodman
                Woodman 22 March 2022 15: 19
                0
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Those who have already arrived will drag their own into the diaspora.

                In any case, these will be EU problems. At the first stage, the departure of the disloyal part of the population from the newly annexed territories will only benefit Russia. Less unrest, less sabotage, safer for the loyal part of the population.
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 22 March 2022 15: 22
                  +1
                  In any case, these will be EU problems.
                  From such a large flock, they will be able to create a government in exile (with a vote and everything).
                  Although the EU will not survive a long confrontation, the European layman simply does not want to pay for some kind of hypothetical freedom of Ukraine and for social raguli on their streets.
                  1. Woodman
                    Woodman 22 March 2022 15: 31
                    -2
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    they will be able to create a government in exile (with a vote and everything)

                    In any case (I do not consider the option that the Russian special operation will not achieve its stated goal because of its fantastic nature), such a government will be created.
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    the EU will not survive a long confrontation

                    And the government in exile will last exactly until this moment. But no matter how long this economic war lasts, the world will never be the same again.
    3. fiv
      fiv 22 March 2022 14: 44
      -1
      I completely agree with the respected Lesovik! What I would like to add is that we need to spread our propaganda more widely (our own radio, television, press, Internet) with the restriction of nationalist (anti-Russian), create a wide labor market (?), Create real prosperity in one or several places as an example (restore the Donbass, let and with Chinese, Indian, Turkish help), to create a numerous and effective NKVD. And with his help thin out the ranks of the Nazis and helluva lot of sympathizers.
      1. Evgen Medenko
        Evgen Medenko 22 March 2022 16: 19
        -5
        Exactly! How to make everyone happy? Send all the dissatisfied to the NKVD!
      2. Ol willy
        Ol willy 22 March 2022 16: 20
        +1
        Quote: fiv
        to create a numerous and effective NKVD. And with his help thin out the ranks of the Nazis and helluva lot of sympathizers.

        Immortal "The beating will continue until morale improves"
        1. fiv
          fiv 22 March 2022 17: 35
          -3
          It's the beatings. And especially stubborn Nazis against the wall. The NKVD doesn't like it. Is Sboo better? Do you like Sbu?
          1. Ol willy
            Ol willy 22 March 2022 19: 02
            +1
            He had nothing to do with the SBU, he had never been to Ukraine. But my ancestors were well acquainted with the NKVD. Grandmother called this organization "four terrible letters"
          2. accordionist
            accordionist 24 March 2022 17: 03
            +2
            Ask people from the Donbass what to do with the Nazis and especially sympathizers. What they did with the Russians in the Donbass. An eye for an eye and no snot otherwise they can not be defeated. A new Kravchuk will grow up, betraying his country, and everything will go to waste.
    4. ammunition
      ammunition 22 March 2022 14: 47
      +2
      Quote: Lesovik
      People are afraid that the Russian troops will come and go, the Nazis will return

      Exactly !!! It was already .. Kharkov, many had to flee .. some were killed.
      1. Sadam
        Sadam 22 March 2022 18: 53
        +4
        What kind of flowers are here?
        10 million today left their homes .4 million left the country ... this is hatred for centuries
        1. Sergei Fonov
          Sergei Fonov 22 March 2022 20: 45
          -2
          I admit that someone will first hate Russia, and after a short time 95% will hate Bandera. Don't believe? Read history.
    5. qQQQ
      qQQQ 22 March 2022 15: 00
      -7
      Quote: Lesovik
      To avoid this, after restoring order and denazification, it will be necessary to hold a referendum and accept Ukraine as part of Russia.

      This cannot be avoided in any scenario. A painfully tempting idea is being pushed by the West, we have nothing special to offer. Based on this, my opinion is that it is necessary to completely cut out the industry, technical universities and drag the teaching staff of these universities to us. In general, to make a great agrarian power. And it doesn't matter who is in power.
    6. Evgen Medenko
      Evgen Medenko 22 March 2022 16: 29
      0
      Lord, why did you decide that we are eager to live here without fail in Russia? From Apukhtin's publications? What can the "Russian world" offer in diamonds? "And then it's up to the economy" - which economy? Under mad sanctions?
      1. Carat
        Carat 22 March 2022 16: 55
        -1
        Quote: Evgen Medenko
        What can the "Russian world" offer in diamonds?


        And where did you get the idea that someone is obliged to offer you something at all? If you are a Natsik, then Russia has something to offer, but it doesn’t.
        1. -Paul-
          -Paul- 22 March 2022 18: 07
          0
          Out of habit, they always owe everything.
        2. Sadam
          Sadam 22 March 2022 21: 21
          +2
          In Kharkov, the Russian city, 600 multi-storey buildings are in ruins. An apartment of a hundred thousand greenery ... he hunchbacked all his life ... And now you get flowers for this ... You are campaigning for war with you and demand
          1. Carat
            Carat 22 March 2022 21: 24
            +1
            Quote: Sadam
            600 multi-storey buildings in ruins


            Personally went considered or suggested who?
            1. Sadam
              Sadam 22 March 2022 21: 26
              +1
              If I take a minute and give a link will you apologize?
              1. Carat
                Carat 22 March 2022 21: 27
                -7
                A link to another fake dill propaganda? No, thanks.
                1. Sadam
                  Sadam 22 March 2022 21: 30
                  +1
                  If it's not a secret where you follow the war from. ? What are media TV carts?
                  1. Carat
                    Carat 22 March 2022 21: 33
                    -12
                    Secret. Top secret stuff.
      2. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 23 March 2022 02: 14
        -2
        Quote: Evgen Medenko
        What can the "Russian world" offer in diamonds? "

        Life...just life
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      4. accordionist
        accordionist 24 March 2022 17: 05
        0
        nobody offers you to live
    7. sniperino
      sniperino 22 March 2022 17: 19
      -3
      Quote: Lesovik
      hold a referendum and accept Ukraine as part of Russia. All. But by separate regions / republics.
      Let not all, but the regions that did not wish to join should form a non-bloc demilitarized state (or states). No gifts to Poland and Romania.
      1. Carat
        Carat 22 March 2022 18: 36
        -6
        Each region is a separate independent republic, like the LNR and the DNR. And then Russia has to look at which ones to attach to the Russian Federation, and which ones to leave as a buffer between the Russian Federation and NATO.
  7. anthonindex
    anthonindex 22 March 2022 14: 24
    -10
    For some reason, the liberated do not seek to be freed from the Bandera regime. But there is so much free space beyond the Arctic Circle
  8. Luenkov
    Luenkov 22 March 2022 14: 24
    -10
    How is this a special operation "for no apparent reason"? Who will greet with flowers if the Nazi yellow / blue flag is flown? The author from the school bench?
    1. Carat
      Carat 22 March 2022 14: 27
      -4
      The Nazis have a red and black flag. And the yellow-blue is for the Downs.
      1. Luenkov
        Luenkov 23 March 2022 10: 58
        +1
        The Nazis are distinguished by their hatred of other peoples and languages. For example, in Kazakhstan, those who do not like the Russian language, the language with the alphabet of which Kazakhstan began, are raising their heads.
      2. Pertussis
        Pertussis April 9 2022 20: 17
        -1
        Ikea also has a yellow-blue logo, but you never know who. The colors are very common. Why drag a goat to a button accordion
  9. Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 22 March 2022 14: 26
    +4
    Within the framework of the current political system, the neo-Nazi "native" government, formed by the oligarchic clans and reformatted by the Americans in the interests of creating a Russophobic springboard for putting pressure on Russia, rules in Ukraine.

    And before that, they loved us so much, they loved us so much .... (sarcasm)
  10. Cowbra
    Cowbra 22 March 2022 14: 31
    +8
    I don't get it, what's so weird? WHY is the operation performed at all? Goal number 1 - denazification. If there had not been Nazism, which manifests itself, among other things, there would have been no operation.
    Well, factor 2 - guys, what will happen next? Will they give the current owner the soup - and leave? They will crawl out in a week - and they will go to shoot those who ran with the tricolor. Any normal resident of Ukraine thinks so. They have already learned how to survive, the most active and not understanding - they just shot there a long time ago
    1. Carat
      Carat 22 March 2022 18: 47
      -3
      Quote: Cowbra
      Any normal resident of Ukraine thinks so.


      That's precisely why Russia can no longer leave. Otherwise, the Americans will help arrange a genocide there, which the world has not yet seen.
    2. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 23 March 2022 02: 26
      0
      Quote: Cowbra
      and what will happen next? Will they give the current owner the cabbage soup - and leave? They will crawl out in a week - and they will go to shoot those who ran with the tricolor

      Islamic republic allied with Russia And within what boundaries will this be the subject of bargaining with the West
  11. sen
    sen 22 March 2022 14: 35
    -4
    Why the Russian army in Ukraine is not greeted with flowers

    So many years brainwashed and intimidated. Western Ukraine sought to enslave the eastern one.
  12. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 22 March 2022 14: 37
    +4
    Why the Russian army in Ukraine is not greeted with flowers

    They are afraid of premature manifestations so as not to end up in Nazi dungeons or in a cemetery ...
  13. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 March 2022 14: 40
    0
    "We wanted the best, but it turned out, as always" (c) Chernomyrdin recourse
  14. Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 22 March 2022 14: 40
    0
    I just don’t understand, but who will rule the country when everyone is killed and bombed? What are your plans for the future?
    1. anthonindex
      anthonindex 22 March 2022 15: 07
      -4
      Quote: Pilat2009
      I just don’t understand, but who will rule the country when everyone is killed and bombed? What are your plans for the future?

      Chinese will be brought from the JAO under the guise of Jews
  15. mag nit
    mag nit 22 March 2022 14: 41
    -3
    What do you want? Europe, damn...
  16. engineer74
    engineer74 22 March 2022 14: 42
    +3
    I did not understand something at all what the author wanted to say? NWO was not originally a "war of liberation", the main task is to protect the LDNR and prevent the reduction of flight time to unacceptable values.
    And the fact that the brothers became non-brothers is something we can’t fix, especially with tanks and Caliber.
    IMHO hi
    1. Sadam
      Sadam 22 March 2022 16: 43
      +4
      Well, if we take flight time as a criterion, then we will have to reset the Baltic states there is a 100 km difference. Finland, which is on its way to the 40 km block to St. Petersburg .. Poland ... And when will hypersound be installed in 10 years, will it be released to Lisbon?
      1. ada
        ada 22 March 2022 22: 40
        -3
        Tribalts without the Ukrainian bridgehead - only a timely swim across the Baltic can help, but it is quite cold. To the Poles and Finns - another "military-technical" answer.
    2. ada
      ada 22 March 2022 22: 30
      -1
      Quote: engineer74
      I did not understand something at all what the author wanted to say? NWO was not originally a "war of liberation", the main task is to protect the LDNR and prevent the reduction of flight time to unacceptable values.
      And the fact that the brothers became non-brothers is something we can’t fix, especially with tanks and Caliber.
      IMHO hi


      I will support you in some way. After reading almost the entire thread, I can say - you are the closest to understanding the situation, but I propose some incomplete adjustments, sorry for persistence.
      Swap the tasks you indicated in places, on top of these tasks, set the achievement of conditions for returning to a dialogue with the United States on the previously identified requirements (taking into account the flight time of our systems already, say, from the borders along the Dnieper and even closer to the Western border of Ukraine with Poland and Moldova - Romania) . Of course, it’s good to be able to perform all tasks at the same time, but first you need to get the probability of simply saving a future life for a certain part of the population of Ukraine, as well as for the population of the LDNR, the Republic of Belarus and our fellow citizens. And there is no time.
      For the citizens of Ukraine, I can say that at this point in time they are simply unspeakably lucky that we managed to cut off the time for the West to fully prepare the LK and what they have to experience now cannot be compared with the horrors of war with the planned development of the conflict . It was then that many of the living could really envy the dead. Perhaps later, many will come to realize what they managed to avoid and at whose expense. If they stay alive, which is not a fact.
  17. maxim1987
    maxim1987 22 March 2022 14: 44
    +2
    because our president again does not bear, nor calves. Residents of Little Russia and New Russia need to be given a CLEAR message that these territories will become regions of Russia and the Nazis will NEVER RETURN, and not amorphous "denazification", etc.
  18. ammunition
    ammunition 22 March 2022 14: 45
    +1
    If it were not for the "negotiations" .. If it were firmly said - "the Nazi and puppet power in Ukraine will be demolished." If it were firmly said - Russia will not leave and will not leave as in the 14th year .. Then the Armed Forces of Ukraine would surrender en masse. And now there is no choice left for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    -----------
    Negotiations with Zelensky .. Statements that Russia is not going to change the regime in Ukraine give fierce resistance from the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. so they at least die with weapons in their hands. Negotiations give strength to the Nazi commissars. Negotiations force the population .. to be silent. ..because it has already been ..Russia will leave..and the population will get even worse.
    ---------
    Why negotiations? In order to please the so-called "civilized countries"? that is, America.
    Why negotiate .. after all, these negotiations cost us rivers of blood .. and destruction.
  19. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 22 March 2022 14: 48
    +4
    Which flowers? Putin is not Stalin. Sign a peace treaty. Russian soldiers will leave, but the Nazis will remain. I have already said that the negotiations will demoralize our supporters on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR.
  20. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 22 March 2022 14: 51
    -8
    Since we started a special operation, we need to go to the end, despite the fact that we are met with flowers or weapons.
    Take Ukraine completely and establish its own administration. Everything for the security of Russia.
    Next in line is the Baltics, then the demilitarization of Eastern Europe. We must remember that they are not relatives, not brothers, and not even friends. We will survive and do what we need.
    Let the traitors flee abroad, it's better than they quietly put sticks in the wheels and threw stones into the mowing.
    Bismarck also seemed to say that when you took something from Russia and think that you won, then she would come and take her own. soldier
  21. MalexSYS
    MalexSYS 22 March 2022 14: 52
    +5
    The author wrote a lot of words, but in reality everything is much simpler. I have heard many times from ordinary Ukrainians that they are very happy with ours. BUT. The Russians will come and go, but we have to live with these Nazis. They will come at night to the one who welcomed and burn the hut. Therefore, until we show them that we will stay and put things in order, no one will show much joy and cooperation. There is still a lot of work after SVO ...
    1. Pertussis
      Pertussis April 9 2022 20: 41
      0
      There is still a lot of work after SVO
      ................................................. ................................................. ................................................. ................................................. ................................................. ....
      All this is useless. There the USSR and the USA tried to restore order in Afghanistan, but to no avail. If the population does not support, then at least die. Yes, and the sanctions are not weak, but this is a war on two fronts
  22. Egoza
    Egoza 22 March 2022 14: 52
    +6
    The Ukrainian regime is carrying out terror against Russian citizens. In Kyiv and other cities, dozens of dissident citizens were detained, killed or thrown into the dungeons, whose entire “guilt” is that they did not change their beliefs, that they were and remained supporters of Russian-Ukrainian unity.
    Among them is Leonid Maslov, an elder of the Faithful Cossacks, a native of Kiev. On March 12, SBU militants broke into his apartment, raked out family savings and gold, in front of his relatives planted two pistols on Maslov and took him to prison.
    Maslov was arrested as part of the same wave of terror against the Russians as Yan Taxiur, Alexander Karevin, Dmitry Dzhangirov and many others. An hour before his arrest, Leonid Maslov had time to write down an appeal to the citizens of Ukraine.
    March 12, 2022, the city of Kyiv. I am from Kiev. I'm the one from Kiev who didn't come from anywhere. I am the one from Kiev whose ancestors have been buried at the Baikove cemetery since the XNUMXth century. I am the one from Kiev who sees, hears and thinks. I am the resident of Kiev who appeals to all those girls and boys, men and women who today, having taken up arms, think that they are defending the Motherland, defending Ukraine.
    Brothers, sisters, you have been deceived! .

    Here also try to "twitch". Uncertainty just breeds caution. "Who knows how it will be" So they meet without flowers.

    Read his letter in full Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1647413826

    I think that this letter should be printed and distributed as a leaflet. Probably, it would help people understand and not meet the Russian army with hostility.
  23. Wanderer_GO
    Wanderer_GO 22 March 2022 14: 53
    -1
    Let him wake up, independent agrarian country.
  24. tatra
    tatra 22 March 2022 14: 55
    +4
    The enemies of the communists, who seized the RSFSR, did NOTHING useful for Russia and the Russian people for 30 years, and proved that they did not want to, and a priori are not capable, but for some reason they believe that the Ukrainian people are not happy with them, just because they zombified by the enemies of the communists who seized the Ukrainian SSR.
  25. Vadmir
    Vadmir 22 March 2022 14: 55
    +11
    The current situation is fundamentally different from the events of 2014, when the population, especially in the South-East, massively welcomed unity with Russia and sought to become under the Russian flag.
    Russia in 2014 threw everyone who bet on Russia. There was such a thing as the Russian spring. At that time, many thought that the Crimea was only the beginning, people rebelled in Kharkov, Odessa, and Zaporozhye. And Russia abandoned these people, who were then transferred to the SBU.
    As a citizen of Russia, I understand everything, then the army was not yet ready, the economy would have collapsed due to a disconnection from SWIFT. But people in Ukraine took Russia's self-elimination as a betrayal.
    What now? With Donbass, everything is clear, the population there is happy to meet. And in the rest of Ukraine?
    Do we, here in Russia, know what our leadership will do after the war? Either they will leave Zelensky, or they will establish a new government, or they will save Ukraine, or they will divide it into several States. There is a war, but negotiations are underway.
    Well, some citizens will believe in a brighter future, but Russia will leave and these same citizens, at best, are jailed for flowers and bread and salt.
    Until there is a clear and precise position of the Kremlin on the future of Ukraine, there will be no flowers, but there will be therodefense and shots in the back.
    1. House 25 Sq. 380
      House 25 Sq. 380 24 March 2022 13: 12
      0
      Are you implying that 1,5 million Kharkovites betrayed themselves?
  26. monah
    monah 22 March 2022 14: 56
    -1
    Quote: Carat
    The Nazis have a red and black flag. And the yellow-blue is for the Downs.

    Downs do not have a flag, but a ribbon!
  27. Detnix
    Detnix 22 March 2022 14: 57
    +11
    Hopes that Russian troops in Ukraine would be greeted as liberators were absolutely groundless, opinion polls in recent years clearly recorded the growing rejection of Russia, and with every day of the military conflict, the population, seeing the disasters that befell it, became more and more hardened. This is a natural process in any society, most of the inhabitants are far from high matters and big politics, they want to live in normal conditions and not live in poverty, and the war does not choose the right and the wrong, everyone suffers, while Russia was appointed the culprit.

    Unfortunately, the beginning of this operation, and the already emerging information on how the tasks were first assigned to the troops, suggests that this has become news for the military-political. For today, the operation has stopped, the progress is microscopic and not a single strategic goal - the liberation of the republics, the encirclement of the Donetsk-Luhansk group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, etc. has not been achieved. Added to this is the vagueness of the wording of the goals of the operation, as well as the unwillingness to give weapons in the occupied territories and create units from the pro-Russian asset.
  28. Astra55
    Astra55 22 March 2022 15: 10
    +5
    It seems that no one will now say out loud what will happen to Ukraine. Whether the situation is changing step by step, and from this we are dancing, which is unlikely. Whether the goal is such that it’s impossible to voice it now, namely the entry of ALL Ukraine into the Russian Federation.
    By the way, if Ukraine is in the United RF, then where is Belarus? Here the Old Man fidgets, and this cannot be allowed at the moment.
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 22 March 2022 15: 21
      +3
      Whether the situation is changing step by step, and from this we are dancing, which is unlikely.
      And I get the feeling that this is exactly how everything is happening and what the territory now called Ukraine will become, no one knows. This will be the result of successes at the front and negotiations, and not only with the Kiev authorities.
      However, this uncertainty, in itself, prolongs the war and increases both the losses of our army and the suffering of the people.
  29. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 March 2022 15: 14
    -1
    Within the framework of the current political system, the neo-Nazi "native" government, formed by the oligarchic clans and reformatted by the Americans in the interests of creating a Russophobic springboard for putting pressure on Russia, rules in Ukraine.

    The oligarchic clans were formed by the USA and the West, not just Firtish, Kolomoisky, Akhmetov and the same Gunpowder. It was they who were calculated and received all the preferences from the US and the West. This is what formed the basis of the "Ukraine project" (not German, but US). Then, relying on these "pillars" of adherents of the West, a "native administration" of high-ranking officials is created, which selects its own kind from the lower environment. At the same time, the main emphasis is placed by the West and the United States on the ideology of Ukrainian nationalism of the 40s of the 20th century, relying on the UNA-UNSO created by them under the leadership of Yuriy Shukhevych. But the entire ideological and educational machine and the media, created by the West, is under the control of the special services of Western countries. Methodological guidelines for all spheres of life, as political, economic, financial, and public life, were painted back in the 80s (and not only for Ukraine). And then the grains of slander and propaganda fall on fertile soil, and sprout like bamboo with incredible speed.
  30. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 March 2022 15: 17
    +5
    I'll add my 5 kopecks ... In Russia, work with our population (and education can be added here) is, to put it mildly, not up to par.
  31. bober1982
    bober1982 22 March 2022 15: 20
    -2
    Because there are many traitors in Ukraine.
    From a letter to his wife from the front (June 1942) by General S.S. Biryuzov, the future illustrious Marshal of the USSR: ............ and how many bastards, how many spies were formed from Soviet youth, from tractor drivers, collective farmers and workers . You wonder and you don’t understand ......
    If Sergei Semenovich was surprised, then in the case of ukrobanderlogs, there is nothing to be surprised at.
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 22 March 2022 15: 41
      +6
      Because there are many traitors in Ukraine.
      And who did they betray? Let me remind you that since 1991 Ukraine has been an independent State. By the way, Russia was the first to adopt a declaration of independence. Some of those who were born under independent Ukraine are already over 30 years old. They are the ones who are fighting now. They protect their homeland. Yes, their ideals are false, but they are not to blame. For 30 years people in Ukraine have been brainwashed.
      Yes, there are Russians there and they can be blamed to some extent for fighting their brothers, but they are also sure that it is Russia that is wrong in this war.
      It will take decades to put these people's brains in their place.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 22 March 2022 17: 26
        -6
        Quote: Vadmir
        Let me remind you that since 1991 Ukraine has been an independent State

        Quasi-state.
        1. Vadmir
          Vadmir 22 March 2022 18: 04
          +7
          Quasi-state.
          We, in Russia, think so. Ukrainians think otherwise.
  32. DenVB
    DenVB 22 March 2022 15: 23
    +11
    Why not meet with flowers? In 2014, in Kharkov and Mariupol, they were ready to meet with flowers. Thousands of demonstrations with Russian flags went around Kharkov. The city could be taken away, like Crimea, without noise and dust. Our Supreme Archangel betrayed all these people, handing them over to Bandera and the SBU for reprisal. All for the sake of friendship with Western partners. And now we wonder why no one comes out with flowers. And we have been fighting for Kharkov for a month already, and the results are not visible yet.
  33. Ermak_Timofeich
    Ermak_Timofeich 22 March 2022 15: 41
    -8
    hostile attitude of the inhabitants of Ukraine to the Russian troops.

    So it matured for at least 8 years. Based on the Soviet experience, as long as a Ukrainian (the moderator, based on no one knows why, perhaps tolerance, changes to a Ukrainian) doesn’t get screwed up, he is a “Svidomy”. The outlook has changed dramatically since then.
  34. Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 22 March 2022 15: 42
    +12
    The author did not mention the main thing ... yes, brainwashing took place ... but the soil for washing them was very fertile ... through the fault of the leadership of the Russian Federation ... namely, this constant decline in the standard of living of the population ... well, why should they be friends with a problematic neighbor?) who cannot provide a decent life for his people?) bonds and kinship alone are not enough ... that's why they looked to the west, where the life of ordinary people is qualitatively better ... therefore, there could not be any flowers. ..2014, by the way, was much more successful in this regard ... and in order for us to take, say, the right-bank part, the west was ready ... and sanctions would be no more than for Crimea ...
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      1. kuztoday
        kuztoday 22 March 2022 19: 21
        -4
        Say this to those 160 ukrov who visit the "occupier" for work a year. I wonder where they find it? After all, everything is ruined, alcoholism is everywhere)))
        1. Ol willy
          Ol willy 22 March 2022 19: 32
          +3
          I myself worked for a long time with visiting Ukrainians... It is easier to get into Russia than to the EU and easier to settle down, besides, there is no such difference of cultures/language barrier.

          But the figure of 160k a year is ridiculous, the women come almost a million a year
          1. kuztoday
            kuztoday 22 March 2022 23: 15
            -1
            It's complete nonsense. The FSB border service has begun publishing an estimate of the number of foreigners arriving in Russia for work. More than 900 thousand migrants came from Uzbekistan, about 165 thousand from Ukraine.

            Read more at RBC:
            https://www.rbc.ru/newspape
        2. Yaroslavl
          Yaroslavl 23 March 2022 08: 38
          +3
          160 thousand, out of 40 million, this is extremely small this time ... and secondly, I have not seen such people in my province ... so they go to Moscow and St. Petersburg ... and this is not quite Russia) and around these cities and more a few really all collapsed, and solid alcoholism)
          1. House 25 Sq. 380
            House 25 Sq. 380 24 March 2022 13: 09
            -1
            Are you an alcoholic?
            1. Yaroslavl
              Yaroslavl 25 March 2022 08: 51
              0
              What's the matter?
              1. House 25 Sq. 380
                House 25 Sq. 380 25 March 2022 10: 15
                0
                I'm not judging: not at all...
                1. Yaroslavl
                  Yaroslavl 28 March 2022 08: 53
                  0
                  That's right, who are you to judge?
                  1. House 25 Sq. 380
                    House 25 Sq. 380 28 March 2022 11: 43
                    -1
                    I'm not judging - you're right...
                    1. Yaroslavl
                      Yaroslavl 28 March 2022 15: 14
                      0
                      well, that is, to quietly tease your creed, right?) I personally didn’t write to you first ... and even more so I wasn’t rude ... so don’t make yourself such a saint
                      1. House 25 Sq. 380
                        House 25 Sq. 380 28 March 2022 15: 24
                        -1
                        I'm not being rude to you: alcoholism is a personal matter for everyone ....
                      2. Yaroslavl
                        Yaroslavl 29 March 2022 08: 42
                        0
                        If it's personal, why are you asking questions?
                      3. House 25 Sq. 380
                        House 25 Sq. 380 30 March 2022 00: 18
                        -1
                        No restrictions...
                      4. Yaroslavl
                        Yaroslavl 30 March 2022 08: 48
                        0
                        Does that mean you can't control yourself?
                      5. House 25 Sq. 380
                        House 25 Sq. 380 April 1 2022 10: 14
                        0
                        It's how you want...
                      6. Yaroslavl
                        Yaroslavl April 5 2022 08: 51
                        0
                        everything is just fine with me ... I don’t rush at people like you
    2. Asad
      Asad 22 March 2022 16: 31
      +11
      I will support your comment, why do most comments bypass the economic issue? Ukrainians work both in Russia and in the West and see perfectly well where it is better and more satisfying. On what shisha will we mount the same Mariupol? Even if we leave half under our protectorate?
      1. Yaroslavl
        Yaroslavl 23 March 2022 08: 41
        +4
        They bypass, I think in our age of consumption, the main issue, the main reason for the rejection of the Russian world .... and this is a one-sided assessment ... flawed ... and it is not clear why the majority of commentators do not notice it ... propaganda is doing its job
      2. House 25 Sq. 380
        House 25 Sq. 380 24 March 2022 13: 09
        -2
        Ukrainians in Ukraine do NOT work on principle??
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          1. House 25 Sq. 380
            House 25 Sq. 380 24 March 2022 13: 18
            -2
            Is my question somehow difficult to formulate?
        2. Yaroslavl
          Yaroslavl 28 March 2022 09: 19
          0
          Are you for the Ukrainians to me?) Listen to the miracle, are you a loser?)
          1. House 25 Sq. 380
            House 25 Sq. 380 28 March 2022 11: 42
            -1
            We are not familiar with you for such informal communication ... And your comments disappear ....
  35. alystan
    alystan 22 March 2022 15: 47
    -3
    For a laugh: "Winter, all the florists" went to the base "(simply shat off for the cordon) for the goods."

    But seriously, a complete information blockade and brainwashing with dill from all irons had their effect - the people there for the most part think the same way, as the Voice of Kiev Propaganda says about it. Yes, and people still live in fear at gunpoint of Nazis and Terrbatovites.

    Where people go out, more often in small settlements, people cry, rejoice and thank for the liberation from the murderous power. And where, I repeat, will people get flowers in winter?
    1. Asad
      Asad 22 March 2022 16: 34
      +4
      What blockade? Our TV channels were great, and no one forbade the Internet.
      1. Driller
        Driller 22 March 2022 20: 20
        0
        The Internet has not been banned.
        -------
        ... and read on VO how the Kremlin is watered here ... in the sense before the war.
  36. AIK05
    AIK05 22 March 2022 16: 08
    -1
    You can understand the inhabitants of the liberated territories until there is certainty, they will not show their loyalty to Russia, all the ardent Nazis and their mouthpieces have long been known, so you need to "work" with them, or rather, reset them to zero or put them in jail for a very long time, and then ordinary people will understand everything themselves and they will be grateful to us to get rid of this evil spirits, normal people, and this is probably the clear majority, cannot like what these non-humans have been up to over the past 8 years.
    1. Evgen Medenko
      Evgen Medenko 22 March 2022 16: 34
      -5
      Right. And whoever doesn’t understand, you need to “work” with it, or rather reset it to zero or put it in jail for a very long time ...
  37. Slon_on
    Slon_on 22 March 2022 16: 13
    -2
    You need to understand that the anti-Russian information dome was built on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR for more than 30 years. After 2014, some Russian supporters were killed, some were imprisoned, others were forced to leave. The rest were intimidated.
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  39. igorra
    igorra 22 March 2022 16: 19
    -3
    It will grind, there will be flour. If only the Bandera nits were completely cleaned out.
  40. Vladimir Petroff
    Vladimir Petroff 22 March 2022 16: 20
    -2
    And after all this, we are called to consider these people still like fraternal people? Why, saving our, if not outright enemies, then enemies, risk their lives and our soldiers die? Anyway, for the vast majority of the inhabitants of Ukraine, we have long been enemies.
  41. aslanxnumx
    aslanxnumx 22 March 2022 16: 25
    +1
    The local propagandists have worked their salaries well. Ours can only earn loot.
    If 75 percent of the State Duma and 100 percent of the government is the fifth column, what could you count on
  42. tank64rus
    tank64rus 22 March 2022 16: 47
    +2
    After the transfer of 90% of Ukrainian servicemen in Crimea to the Russian Army, appropriate measures were taken to clean up the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Appointment of people from national formations to command posts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Further expansion of the number of national battalions and their transformation into brigades. Rotation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine through the war in the Donbass. Appointment to leadership positions of people from the western regions of Ukraine. And of course the frantic propaganda led by the United States since childhood. And this is all over the heads for eight whole years. This was led by people who knew their business and it was every day, week, month, year. No money was spared, both for armaments and for propaganda. But in the end it turned out that we had formed, re-equipped, and ideologically inspired an entire NATO army, the second after the Turkish one in Europe.
  43. Griffith
    Griffith 22 March 2022 17: 00
    +2
    Why is everyone fixated on 2014? But in general, the operation to separate Ukraine from the Russians began with the collapse of the Russian Empire. That is, this process is already more than 100 years old. And if someone thinks that this will be decided in a couple of weeks or months, he is greatly mistaken. I can only guess why grandfather Lenin gave Ukraine the southeast, but the fact is that the Ukrainization of Russians was actively carried out under Soviet rule. After the Second World War, this was actively connected in the West. Suffice it to recall the Gladio secret service. Also an interesting fact about the embedding of Bandera's shortcomings in the Soviet government in Ukraine under Khrushchev. It was not for nothing that Kravchuk ran ahead of everyone to Belovezhskaya for the collapse of the USSR. And the most ardent nationalists after the collapse of the USSR did not come from scratch. These were former communists and Komsomol members, and not in the last roles in power in the USSR.
    1. Griffith
      Griffith 22 March 2022 17: 18
      -1
      I also want to add my purely subjective opinion. Russia has been at war with the Anglo-Saxons since the 17th century. In history during this time, it was so that Russia, represented by the Russian Empire, dominated this war. But at the moment we see that all over the world there are about 500-400 million people who know Russian and under 2 billion people who speak or know English. So draw your own conclusion. And if Putin does not bring the operation to an end, then naturally all over the world they can put a final cross on the Russians. Including today's allies. And not because they have something against the Russians, but in order to simply cover their rear. And other neutral-minded people will also not refuse to participate in the division of 1/7 of the land. After all, a nation needs land, water, food, and shelter to survive. And all sorts of Google, Facebook, Instagram, etc. etc. it's not even secondary.
      1. Evgen Medenko
        Evgen Medenko 22 March 2022 18: 51
        +4
        If it's not a secret, when did Russia dominate the "Anglo-Saxons"?
        And how will bringing the operation to the end change the ratio of those who know Russian and those who know English?
        And where does Russia's allies come from?
  44. Pavel57
    Pavel57 22 March 2022 17: 00
    -5
    In 2014, Russia was weaker in many key areas:
    1. The army did not get the experience and weapons that it has now.
    2. The financial system most likely collapsed in 2014.
    3. Experience gained in dealing with sanctions, although even now they are extremely painful, they are no longer fatal.
    4. A partnership (allied) system with key countries - China, Belarus, India, etc. was not built.
    5. The elite was not ready to aggravate relations with the West.
    6. Manifestation of a real threat of turning Ukraine into a NATO foothold. (June 22 in the new edition was a reality).
    7. The crisis in the West has not yet reached such an acute phase, behind which is the collapse of the economy (in Europe this will happen soon, then the States).


    Yes, the next couple of years will be difficult for us, but then we will breathe a sigh of relief.
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 23 March 2022 07: 22
      0
      The army did not get the experience and the weapons that it has now.

      What weapons have been received over the past 8 years

      Combat experience - you probably meant counterguerrilla operations in Syria. As history shows, the experience of such wars is useless when meeting with the enemy's regular army.
  45. monah
    monah 22 March 2022 17: 51
    +4
    Quote: monah
    Quote: Carat
    The Nazis have a red and black flag. And the yellow-blue is for the Downs.

    Downs do not have a flag, but a ribbon!

    I can't figure out why I got downvoted? I just wanted to clarify to the person that
    The hallmark of downs is a blue and yellow ribbon, not a flag! If you don't like this ribbon, don't wear it!
  46. Poru4ik
    Poru4ik 22 March 2022 17: 52
    +9
    Over the past 20 years, the authorities "impudently, cynically, in a particularly perverted form" have lied to us literally in everything. Why did you all suddenly believe today that these same persons began to speak "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth"?
    1. Evgen Medenko
      Evgen Medenko 22 March 2022 19: 14
      +6
      Why only today?
      After all, they believed that if they did not fight in Syria, then ISIS would invade the Caucasus and Turkmenistan in a week!
      That in the same Syria they finally defeated all the enemies. Four times!
      They believed that raising the retirement age is good!
      That the Great Zeroing is, in fact, liberation from external dependence!
      Why not now believe that war is a special operation?
      1. Poru4ik
        Poru4ik 22 March 2022 22: 25
        +4
        Syria, it's somewhere far away, over the horizon. Retirement is also for many a distant, some kind of "abstract" concept. The majority of the constitution is generally violet, but what is happening now most of all resembles an attraction to collective responsibility. "Friends and partners" very carefully remind about this. Repent, repent and repent again, they say. And here is a great suggestion for you. Who will believe Russia now that it was not she who shot down the Boeing, that it was not her fault for all the problems of the world, that it was not she who killed Kennedy in the end. After all the loud statements that these are planned maneuvers, that there are no conscripts, etc., etc. But this is not surprising, it is surprising that just yesterday 90% of the regulars of the resource shouted "crucify him, crucify him", and today everyone has merged into loyal ecstasy. The reasons for the special operation are not very convincing. Genocide and bullying of civilians! Yes, 15 thousand victims in 8 years are terrifying. And how many Russians died during the same time - from unemployment, drug addiction, lack of medicine, from counterfeit products and medicines, and simply from hopelessness. Public abuse? So, first of all, it would be necessary to look for targets much closer than in Ukraine. Maybe all the same, it would be necessary first of all to take care of the population, which he undertook to protect, swearing on a nullified constitution. Ukraine is not negotiable! Fear God, who negotiates with extras of the second plan? Negotiate with the owner of the theater, in extreme cases with the director. But here, probably, the instinct of self-preservation worked, they didn’t flood the “dagger” of the city on the hill, with the Nazis and drug addicts entrenched in it, that no one would object to it. Indirect confirmation - the appointment of a banker awarded with a congressional medal. In fact, there are so many questions that you can write an entire article, but there are no answers. And so, if you don’t ask questions, then yes, a small victorious war will write off all the “exploits of the talented and energetic” But it seems that something went wrong!
  47. Altmann
    Altmann 22 March 2022 18: 07
    +2
    You must improve propaganda. There are also figures like 15000 fallen soldiers, no one even refused. The Ukrainians hate you, we need to speed up the campaign. The Americans have their own war, don't let these kams win. am
    1. agond
      agond 22 March 2022 19: 54
      +2
      Why are they not greeted with flowers? it’s just that people don’t like to change their minds, let alone admit mistakes,
  48. acetophenone
    acetophenone 22 March 2022 19: 58
    +3
    We need to decide whose tasks our troops in Ukraine are solving:
    If the tasks and problems of Ukraine, then we can hope for flowers. But also act accordingly.
    And if the tasks and problems of Russia, then the flowers will have to be bought by ourselves.
    And if both at the same time and for the same money, then this is an attempt to sit on two chairs at once. One of which is from bayonets.
  49. Sergei Fonov
    Sergei Fonov 22 March 2022 20: 01
    0
    Why not meet with flowers? I have a question, why, if one of the goals of "denazification of Ukraine" is missing a description of what is meant by this? In my opinion, the greetings that the national battalions began to use, unauthorized gatherings under nationalist slogans, all this should be severely suppressed, then people will believe. If a crowd has gathered on the square and shouts to the armed soldiers get out, and they look and are silent, then everyone understands that these are not defenders. Even if the local "patriots" do not yet have weapons in their hands, everyone knows perfectly well that they are armed, it's just that the weapons are hidden for now, until the evening. There must be order in the liberated territory and the military-civilian administration is obliged to restore it, anarchy is the path to robberies, murders and looting.
  50. Serg serg
    Serg serg 22 March 2022 22: 45
    +1
    My school teacher in Russian language and literature often said this phrase: "If a person says "pig" every day, he will eventually grunt. "
    1. kuztoday
      kuztoday 22 March 2022 23: 19
      -2
      A catchphrase, nothing more. One came up with and all repeat as the ultimate truth.
      1. Skobaristan
        Skobaristan 22 March 2022 23: 35
        +1
        No. It accurately reflects psychology. Few people can resist repeated more than once or twice. I personally, for 8 years, have observed changes in the opinion of a person from Marik. And there is an opposite example. A man from Lugansk, but ended up in Kharkov after 14 years. And it didn't affect him. Critical thinking does work.
      2. Serg serg
        Serg serg 22 March 2022 23: 53
        +1
        Justified by history and practice! Dot.