The developer of the hypersonic Zircon announced a big step forward in creating an aviation version of the rocket

The Russian army can get into service not only the naval version of the Zircon hypersonic missile, but also aviation. This is reported by the Engineering NGO, which developed the rocket.

Hypersonic missile "Zircon", developed for the Naval fleet, can get an aviation version. As Anatoly Svintsov, deputy general director of NPO Mashinostroyenia, explained, the enterprise has a large reserve for the hypersonic Zircon for aviation. The thing is that the Zircon was originally developed for the fleet and for aviation at once, but the military asked to focus specifically on the marine version of the missile.

The developers have not yet named a date for the start of work on the Zircon aircraft, stating that the Russian Aerospace Forces already have one Kinzhal hypersonic missile.

According to the aviation version, we also have a big backlog. When the time comes, we will definitely continue this work, but for now the country already has a hypersonic aviation missile - this is the Dagger missile

- said Svintsov.

The hypersonic Zircon is currently completing tests and will soon begin to enter service with surface ships. In the special operation in Ukraine, "Zircons" were not used. But the Russian Aerospace Forces have already tried the Kinzhal complex, inflicting two blows on military facilities in Ukraine. On Saturday, "Dagger" destroyed a warehouse of missiles and air ammunition located near the village of Delyatyn in the Ivano-Frankivsk region, and on Sunday a blow was struck at the largest military base of fuel and lubricants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, located in the Nikolaev region.

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[Terenin]

but the military asked to focus specifically on the naval version of the missile.

Forgot What oceans does the USA border?

[NIKN]

I take an analogy
"Iskander" ground-based range 500 km Air-based ("Dagger") 2500 km
"Zircon" ground-based, range 500-800 km (prospect 1500 km) Airborne, apparently, it should be more than 3000. Pleases.

[storm]

"Zircon" ground-based range 500-800 km (prospect 1500 km)

Don't drop the link?

[NIKN]

http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-718.html

[Bad_gr]

Quote: NIKNN

"Iskander" ground-based range 500 km Air-based ("Dagger") 2500 km

In my opinion, if these data are true, then the Iskander and the Dagger can only have electronics in common with each other.
A range of 500 km is achievable with a rocket engine, and 2500 km is already the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbair-jet engines (if hyper, then definitely direct-flow).
Or they have a warhead (fuel) weight different at times.

[NIKN]

500 km is taking into account that from a speed of 0 it is necessary to move along a ballistic trajectory with an ascending (not small) section to a speed of something around 6M, due to the absence of such a section in the aeroballistic version, this energy contributes to an increase in range. I believe the engine mode has been adjusted accordingly.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: NIKNN

500 km is taking into account that from a speed of 0 it is necessary to move along a ballistic trajectory with an ascending (not small) section to a speed of something around 6M, due to the absence of such a section in the aeroballistic version, this energy contributes to an increase in range. I believe the engine mode has been adjusted accordingly.

TTX missiles Bramos (aka our "Yakhont") marine and aviation version:

Clipping from this table by range

http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-397.html

[NIKN]

And what does "Brahmos" have to do with it? this is practically our CR "Onyx" only with coarse characteristics. And it has never been related to ballistic missiles. We seem to be talking about the Iskander and its aeroballistic version "Dagger"

[Bad_gr]

Quote: NIKNN

We seem to be talking about the Iskander and its aeroballistic version "Dagger"

Variants of the same missile cannot have a 5-fold difference in range, depending on the launch site.

[NIKN]

You see, a cruise missile, when launched from a ship or a ground-based installation, uses a starting powder engine that only provides it with acceleration, and works for less than 5 seconds or so, then they are no different from air-based cruise missiles and with the same flight profile, the difference in range will not significant. The option of Kmnzhal and Iskander has slightly different dependencies, I even admit, and even reflected in the assumptions (I estimated on intuition, taking into account greater and longer air resistance at high speeds), that Zircon will gain somewhat less in range when airborne. But for zircon, all the data so far vary greatly in sources, and it is difficult to predict anything definite.
Here for zircon, but everything is at the testing stage, let's say the design development of options. http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-718.html

[Bad_gr]

Quote: NIKNN

The variant of Knzhal and Iskander has slightly different dependencies,

The light photo is the launch of the Iskander, the dark one is the launch of the Kinzhal from the MiG-31K (I rotated it 90° for ease of comparison).
Can you explain why the length of the torch of the "Dagger" engine, which does not seem to need much acceleration, since it was dispersed by the plane, is more consistent with the length of the torch of the Nudol anti-missile, whose acceleration acceleration goes beyond 200G? And how long will it last to work in this mode? enough for 2500 km or does the rocket fly this distance by inertia?

[NIKN]

The length of the torch can be explained by 2 reasons, and both are present. 1. That when starting from the ground and from an airplane, acceleration takes place at the initial stage. (Mig 31 starts at a number of M < even 2, and it is necessary to accelerate to more than, so the engines work in an accelerating version both here and there.
2. The length of the torch depends on the height, at a higher altitude the torch can be larger, and the difference in heights is significant When starting from the MiG-31, I think in the region of 15 km.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: NIKNN

2. The length of the torch depends on the height, at a higher altitude the torch can be larger, and the difference in heights is significant When starting from the MiG-31, I think in the region of 15 km.

Can you show a similar photo of a rocket launch (not a "Dagger") from an airplane and the same length of a torch from a rocket engine?
But "Nudol" takes off from the mine (a torch, a few, will be more powerful than that of the "Dagger")

[NIKN]

I can’t, I don’t have any desire to look for something for half the night, especially since you still need to know that it has the same engine with the same mode of operation. What for? In a rarefied atmosphere, the same engine with the same operating mode, the flame will be a priori longer.
PS: I already have time for bed and on this I will sum up. I did not claim that it was, but only assumed. I am not a rocket scientist and do not have any calculations and data in front of me, which means I cannot conduct scientific disputes. I told you everything that lies on the surface, and it seems to be obvious. I don't even know what else to add. Details such as the length of the torch even depend on the time of day when shooting and the angle in the sun.
Sincerely.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Bad_gr

But "Nudol" takes off from the mine (a torch, a few, will be more powerful than that of the "Dagger")

In general, the lightest rocket "Nudoli" (the general designation of the missile defense system of the MSK region) is 10 tons versus 4 for the Iskander, and in the photo there may be a 33-ton rocket, do you think the torch may be longer for a much heavier and but not less than a high-speed rocket?
Well, at a higher altitude, the torch is longer than near the ground.

[Bad_gr]

I probably didn't make my point clearly.
I wanted to say the length of the torch in relation to the length of the rocket body.
a large ratio implies high fuel consumption, high acceleration, but this comes at the expense of range. On long-range rockets, a large acceleration can only be short-term, in case you need to reach the launch speed of a ramjet engine.
Where am I mistaken?

[bk316]

Where am I mistaken?

Maybe everywhere, maybe nowhere.
Without knowing the design, it's pointless to argue.
You can, of course, solve the classic problem for applicants to the Physicotechnical Institute.
Given a rocket with a Tsiolkovsky engine
known mass starting angle max height and flight distance.
Determine what is the distance for the same rocket with initial speed V, height H and angle L.
Those who love Soviet education go ahead, the task is not easy, but a good student can do it.
The only trouble is that a lot of things are not taken into account in it and the answer may differ from reality several times.

HOWEVER, as far as I remember, if V and H are of the same order as Vmax and Hmax, then the flight distance is many times greater (and this is without taking into account the density of the atmosphere) in general, 2500 km is theoretically not such a fantastic value for a dagger.

[Oden280]

Brahmos is a heavily stripped-down version of Onyx in all respects. What range of any of our missiles can only be estimated on the fingers. No one can tell you the exact number.

[1Alexey]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: NIKNN

"Iskander" ground-based range 500 km Air-based ("Dagger") 2500 km

In my opinion, if these data are true, then the Iskander and the Dagger can only have electronics in common with each other.
A range of 500 km is achievable with a rocket engine, and 2500 km is already the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbair-jet engines (if hyper, then definitely direct-flow).
Or they have a warhead (fuel) weight different at times.

You just take into account that Iskander indicates the flight range of the missile itself, while the Dagger is not a missile, but an aviation missile system (a combination of an aircraft with a missile), therefore, its range also includes the flight range of the carrier aircraft, which can be and more with aerial refueling.

In addition, if the carrier aircraft is the MiG-31K, this is one range, and if the Tu-23M3M, then another.

[kytx]

It's okay. Well, his moment31 will not shoot at maximum speed and altitude. There is an optimal option. It is voiced, with distortions, of course. Who needs to know.

By the way, I personally do not believe that a dagger was used on the bunker. There, childbearing ammunition was used. I don't know which one :(

[1Alexey]

Quote: kytx

There is an optimal option. It is voiced, with distortions, of course. Who needs to know.

I mean that it is necessary to compare correctly.
It is incorrect to compare the range of a missile (Iskander) with the range of an aviation missile system (Dagger). Then, for a correct comparison, it is necessary to isolate the range of the missile included in it from the Dagger and compare it with the range of Iskander.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1Alexey

In addition, if the carrier aircraft is the MiG-31K, this is one range, and if the Tu-23M3M, then another.

If the range is indicated not of the missile, but of the complex (that is, the combat radius of the aircraft + the range of the missile), then everything is clear.

[Piramidon]

Quote: 1Alexey

therefore, its range also includes the flight range of the carrier aircraft

For the first time I hear that in the performance characteristics of a missile in terms of range, the flight range of an aircraft is included. With this approach, it is possible to agree that the range of free-falling "cast iron" will be several thousand km.

[avg avg]

Do not interfere with the hard work of the brains of armchair experts. It is interesting to find out how far they "experiment"! And you immediately with trump cards!

[Bad_gr]

Quote: avg avg

Do not interfere with the hard work of the brains of armchair experts. It is interesting to find out how far they "experiment"!

"The lower man soul, the higher nose up.
He reaches with his nose to where his soul has not matured." ©

[1Alexey]

Quote: Piramidon

For the first time I hear that in the performance characteristics of a missile in terms of range, the flight range of an aircraft is included.

In the performance characteristics of the rocket, the flight range of the aircraft is really not included, but the "Dagger" is not a rocket, but an aviation missile system! Therefore, when it comes to the range of the "Dagger", then we are talking about the range of the complex.

The missile, which is part of the Kinzhal complex, has its own name "9-S-7760".

The range of the "Dagger" depends on the carrier aircraft and, according to information from open sources, is:
with the aircraft carrier MiG-31K - 2000 km;
with the aircraft carrier Tu-22M3M - 3000 km.

[kytx]

I don’t get it, why did the Dagger suddenly become hypersonic?
The source code has 3.2M maximum speed.
Or are we all hyper now? :)

[NIKN]

Quote: kytx

The source code has 3.2M maximum speed.

What source?

[kytx]

This is so old Iskander.

[NIKN]

Combat characteristics. Circular error probable: 1 - 30 m (depending on the guidance system used). Launch weight of the rocket: 3 kg. Warhead weight: 800 kg. Length 480 m Diameter 7,2 mm. rocket speed after initial section of the trajectory: 2 100 m/s
that 7 560 km / h, otherwise in the 6M area and this is only in the initial section, then, apparently, the section passes to the descending part of the ballistic trajectory.

[kytx]

Of course I don't know anything. But 6M is a bit too much for Iskander IMHO. But he also has to maneuver. Such a rocket will have a completely different look.

A photo of the MO dagger was posted.

[NIKN]

Quote: kytx

Of course I don't know anything. But 6M is a bit too much for Iskander IMHO. But he also has to maneuver. Such a rocket will have a completely different look.

This is a fact.

[host]

Quote: Terenin

Forgot What oceans does the USA border?

Pacific, Atlantic, Arctic and recently discovered by Russian scientists Poseidon Ocean.

[Terenin]

Quote from host

Quote: Terenin

Forgot What oceans does the USA border?

Pacific, Atlantic, Arctic and recently discovered by Russian scientists Poseidon Ocean.

Such idiots got such good oceans.
One "dead sea" would be enough for them.

[host]

Quote: Terenin

One "dead sea" would be enough for them.

In the middle of the USA that's it

[storm]

In the crater of the exploding Yellowstone volcano, a "dead sea" with an area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXba third of the United States is formed ....

[host]

Agree a third so a third - we are not barbarians

[Egoza]

Quote: Terenin

Such idiots got such good oceans.
One "dead sea" would be enough for them.

E no! The Dead Sea is healing. All they need is the Rotten Sea. But you can also spill them. I.V. Stalin.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote from host

Quote: Terenin

Forgot What oceans does the USA border?

Pacific, Atlantic, Arctic and recently discovered by Russian scientists Poseidon Ocean.

Have you thought about the Poseidon Ocean for a long time?

[host]

Quote: SKVichyakow

Have you thought about the Poseidon Ocean for a long time?

According to the timer 10 min. Something strained you Sergey? Actually, I read Shpakovsky's article on "armament"

[SKVichyakow]

I read Quiet Don, so what? Do you believe in fairy tales?

[host]

Quote: SKVichyakow

I read Quiet Don, so what? Do you believe in fairy tales?

I understand you, according to my comment above, I hope you do me, tomorrow at work, be more careful

[fiv]

But Ethiopian hydrologists claim that the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic are all parts of the Poseidon Ocean

[host]

Quote: fiv

But Ethiopian hydrologists claim that the Pacific, Atlantic and Arctic are all parts of the Poseidon Ocean

Here's the damn didn’t know about their discovery, it would be necessary to send a request to the Russian Academy of Sciences, I didn’t write to them for a long time, otherwise -

You study, you study, and then Bam and the second shift

[rocket757]

There, once, the strait was planned, the name of Comrade Stalin .... did not grow together.
Oh yes, we don’t forget about the island, there are all the most arrogant, bunched up.

[Brturin]

states ... the Germans were somehow worried
media group Funke, a representative of the German Ministry of Defense. "We are concerned about Russia's one-of-a-kind use of a hypersonic missile in the war against Ukraine" https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/14127449

[Napayz]

We are concerned about the one-of-a-kind application...

Worried about only being used ONE time or what? ))))

[sgrabik]

This is only once so far, if necessary, it can be applied ten or twenty times, until the entire military infrastructure of Ukraine, all its military facilities are completely destroyed.

[Alex777]

It seems to me that the launches of the Dagger in Ukraine, in addition to applied software
purposes, they also have a demonstration value. For the West. Necessary
to make them more worried and more thoughtful. It's time for them.

[bayard]

In principle, the use of all types of high-precision weapons in this conflict, except for applied weapons, is also of a demonstration nature. But in this case, it was necessary to break through several tens of meters of concrete and rock, and judging by the reports, the "Dagger" completely coped with this task.
But the article touches on a completely different topic - that the Moscow Region refused to modify the air-based Zircon. But this, among other things, is also unification, and as a result, a reduction in the cost of a unit of such ammunition in the future. Yes, and for suspension in the inner compartment of the bomber "Zircon" is more suitable. And you can launch it without "circus performances" at supersonic and an altitude of 17 km. , and from normal horizontal flight at subsonic speed. The promising PAK DA, and Tu-160M ​​\ M2, and Tu-22M3M, and even a special modification of the Su-57 and Su-34 could become the carrier of such GZUR. Our opponents have huge fleets, and we can only really fight against them with the forces of the revived MRA ... And we won't have a "Big Fleet" for a long time to come.
And today, when the tests of the ship version of the Zircon are being completed, it's time to deal with its aviation version. After all, such work had already been carried out before, and the first message about this missile was exactly like an air-based anti-ship missile - its weight and size model was taken out / tested on the Tu-22M3.
And if we had such a missile in service today, our tolerant partners would think much more strongly than about its ship version.
Can you imagine Tu-160M2 with 8 - 12 such missiles on board?
With a range of 1500 km. ?
But there are 22 of them and Tu-3M3M. pull easily.
And Su-34 one or two easily.

And for the "Dagger", so that for the declared range (2000 km) - only the MiG-31K, in climb up to 17 m and at a speed of 000 km / h.

With a special desire, even the Tu-95 could carry the Zircon. With such a range (1500 km.), Even the old "Bear" has a good chance of destroying the AUG and returning home whole.

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

But the article touches on a completely different topic - that the Ministry of Defense refused to modify the air-based Zircon.

They didn't refuse. Initially, both versions were developed.
And the Ministry of Defense asked the ship to do it first.

[riwas]

It seems to me that the launches of the Dagger in Ukraine, in addition to applied software
purposes, they also have a demonstration value.

The coordinates of the bunker where Zelensky is hiding are known, since it is still Soviet-built. The dagger, thanks to its great penetrating ability, may well get it.

[ZEMCH]

About the Germans, fresh
JOKE:
Stirlitz went to Muller. Muller was in a gloomy mood...
- Mr. Gruppenführer, what happened? Are Russians already in the suburbs of Berlin?
- Stirlitz, throw your stupid jokes! I had a night mare! I dreamed of Germany 2022 of the year!
- And why is everything so bad?
— Wrong word, Stirlitz! Imagine, we have a chancellor in Germany - a woman,
defense minister, woman
the foreign minister is a pederast,
Turks work at Daimler-Benz factories, Germany pays the debts of Greeks and Spaniards. Instead of torchlight processions - gay parades!
We pay money to Jews and carry out commands from America - first a black man, and then a senile old fart! Fascists in Kyiv, not in the Reichstag! Ukraine is at war with Russia, and Germany!...imagine, Stirlitz - GERMANY! - persuades Russia not to fight!!!
- "Really, some kind of bullshit ..." - thought Stirlitz ...

[tralflot1832]

Maybe you meant puddles, the oceans ended with the advent of ICBMs.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

With the beginning of the Third World War, the life of mankind will end.

[maiman61]

If you repeat nonsense, then it does not become true. When the machine gun was invented, the "wise men" declared that there would be no more wars, it was so disastrous for the infantry! When the first cars drove, the "wise men" said that a car would never go faster than a horse!

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Hope to survive a nuclear war???

[maiman61]

I don't even doubt it! Mattress makers and gay Europeans want to live even more! For some reason they think that their asses are special and they have the right to live longer than others.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

The problem of the Western elite is the lack of competent, intelligent people and the presence of extremely reckless slow-witted people. I doubt anyone will survive a nuclear war.

[maiman61]

Law of life! The most stupid rascals love life the most. Americans with diarrhea fled Afghanistan when the Taliban issued an ultimatum to get their asses out of the country before this many hours, otherwise there would be a lot of extra holes in their asses. And why? But because their asses wanted to live!

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Their shame in Afghanistan will long be remembered. They are brave, courageous, fair heroes only in Hollywood fairy tales, but in reality they are ordinary cowards, rapists, robbers and murderers. The huge war machine of the Starstripes with allies lost to the poor peasants with shovels and choppers, and now they have already climbed on us. I even get scared if they feel that they are losing to us.

[Jamoro]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

Hope to survive a nuclear war???

Why not? The question is, of course, debatable. Compare the power of the explosion of the meteorite, which is believed to have destroyed the dinosaurs, with the power of all the nuclear weapons on earth. Perhaps this will give you optimism. The main thing at the moment of impact is away from large cities and in general objects that can be targets.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

10 Brutal Realities Of Life After The Nuclear Apocalypse

https://bdsmn.livejournal.com/797667.html

[Jamoro]

Some blogger wrote something in his livejournal with the note "Scientists conducted tests and calculations" and so what? If you want to communicate seriously - let's link to these scientists with their calculations.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Theoretical Options for Nuclear Winter


A drop in temperature of one degree in one year that does not significantly affect the human population.
Nuclear autumn - a decrease in temperature by 2-4 ° C for several years; there are crop failures, hurricanes.
A year without summer - intense but relatively short cold during the year, the death of a significant part of the crop, famine and epidemics in the next winter, a historical example is the next, 1816, after the eruption of the volcano Tambora[26].
A ten-year nuclear winter is a drop in temperature on the entire Earth by about 10-15 ° C over 20 years. This scenario is implicit in many nuclear winter models. Snowfall over most of the Earth, with the exception of some equatorial coastal areas. Mass deaths of people from hunger, cold, and also from the fact that snow will accumulate and form many meters thick, destroying buildings and blocking roads. Most of the world's population is likely to die, but 10-50% (according to various estimates) of people will survive and retain most of the technology. On average, such a scenario will throw back civilization in development by about 20, maximum 50 years. Risks: continuation of the war for warm places, unsuccessful attempts to warm the Earth with the help of new nuclear explosions and artificial volcanic eruptions, transition to uncontrolled heating of the nuclear summer. However, even if this scenario is allowed, it will turn out that the world's stock of cattle alone (which will freeze on their farms and be stored in such natural "refrigerators") will be enough to feed all the surviving humanity all the time, and Finland and Norway, for example, have strategic stocks of grain for the rapid recovery of agriculture.
New Ice Age. It is an extremely unlikely scenario for the continuation of the previous one, in a situation where the reflectivity of the Earth increases due to snow, and new ice caps begin to grow from the poles and down to the equator. However, part of the land near the equator remains suitable for life and agriculture. As a result, civilization will have to change radically. It is difficult to imagine huge migrations of peoples without wars. Many species of living beings will die out, but most of the diversity of the biosphere will survive. People have already experienced several ice ages, which could start quite abruptly as a result of supervolcano eruptions and asteroid impacts (the Toba eruption). With such a development of events, a return to the original state may take about a hundred years.
Irreversible global cooling. It could be the next phase of the Ice Age, in a worst-case but almost improbable scenario. On the whole Earth, for a geologically long time, a temperature regime will be established, as in Antarctica, the oceans will freeze, the land will be covered with a thick layer of ice. Life can only survive in the oceans.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ядерная_зима#Теоретические_варианты_ядерной_зимы

[Jamoro]

I have read all of this, thank you. I suggest you go straight to the question below.

[Jamoro]

Let's do it differently.
Chikshuluub crater (according to Wikipedia)
It is assumed that the crater was formed about 66,5 million years ago at the end of the Cretaceous period as a result of an asteroid impact with a diameter of about 10 km. The impact energy is estimated at 5⋅1023 joules or 100 teraton in TNT equivalent (for comparison, the largest thermonuclear device had a yield of about 0,00005 teraton, which is 2 million times less).
As a result, the effect of a sharp cooling (about 28 degrees) appeared.
Why do you think that the same effect should appear from several thousand nuclear explosions, the total power of which is thousands (or even tens of thousands) less?

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

https://youtu.be/JyECrGp-Sw8

[Jamoro]

What did you mean by giving a link to this cartoon?

[kytx]

And when intercontinental nuclear missiles were invented, big wars ended abruptly.
Strange isn't it? :)

[sgrabik]

We are almost on the way to the new Sarmat ICBM, in terms of efficiency it will be several times cooler than Satan, more than 18000 km range, up to 12 tons of payload, up to 16 warheads and the latest means of overcoming anti-missile defense, let mattresses seriously think about whether threaten us?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: sgrabik

We are almost on the way to the new Sarmat ICBM, in terms of efficiency it will be several times cooler than Satan, more than 18000 km range, up to 12 tons of payload, up to 16 warheads and the latest means of overcoming anti-missile defense, let mattresses seriously think about whether threaten us?

there is nothing on the way.
Import substitution failed.
A couple of months there was infa about another postponement for an indefinite period even of testing the components of the control system due to the lack of REI of the required characteristics.

So for a couple of test missiles, REI can and will be able to recruit by the bottom of the barrel, but for mass production according to the required performance characteristics - no longer.
And if it continues like this, then it will turn out not Sarmat, but something outdated.
No better than those Soviet missiles.

[Maz]

God forbid, the Schaub is bigger and better, so that the gast boys and girls do not climb on the machine guns of the ukroreich

[XNUMX%]

Tochnik It seems to me that we will still force them to learn geography.

[kytx]

This rocket is not to make straits. but in order to bring down the scows.
Patriot you are our sparkling.
Two identical comments in different threads.
Either stupid or on the payroll.
In any case, people like you litter the forum.
And ruin our mood.

[andrewkor]

This is for you at the State Department, there are specialists in geography!

[Thrifty]

So it's great! And the range of the missile will be much higher in the air version, and the ability to work on any objects without going into the detection zone by air defense systems of a potential enemy! In addition, a lot of hypersonic missiles will never be superfluous! And, the versatility of such weapons, if necessary, the ability to change the priority of the target being delivered - instead of a weapons depot, a large warship, say, a helicopter carrier, at least!

[svp67]

The Zircon hypersonic missile, developed for the Navy, may receive an aviation version.

The aviation version is very necessary, a special one that could be used with the Su-34 or with the Tu-22M3 for now, not to mention the Tu-95, Tu-160 and PAK DA

[Flooding]

Su-30SM2 strike aircraft of the Navy
him and carry anti-ship missiles
unless, of course, the Zircon rocket is liftable for him

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: svp67

The aviation version is very necessary, a special one that could be used with the Su-34 or with the Tu-22M3 for now, not to mention the Tu-95, Tu-160 and PAK DA

Better than the MiG-31, having accelerated, it can give a greater initial speed to the rocket during separation. In addition, if you also attach a solid fuel accelerator, the speed will be huge.

[Flooding]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Better than the MiG-31, having accelerated, it can give a greater initial rocket speed during separation

how relevant is this for a hypersonic missile?

By the way, in the summer they wrote about a new promising aviation anti-ship missile. So we will soon learn about another replenishment of the nomenclature.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Flood

how relevant is this for a hypersonic missile?

To increase range. The amount of fuel in a hypersonic missile is limited and consumed very quickly. Any additional impulse will have a positive effect on speed and range.

[Ryaruav]

the backfire also accelerates well and allows you to strike with such weapons from airfields in the deep rear due to a significantly greater range than the Mig-31 (we hope there will be 41 more)

[1Alexey]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

Quote: svp67

The aviation version is very necessary, a special one that could be used with the Su-34 or with the Tu-22M3 for now, not to mention the Tu-95, Tu-160 and PAK DA

Better than the MiG-31, having accelerated, it can give a greater initial speed to the rocket during separation. In addition, if you also attach a solid fuel accelerator, the speed will be huge.

But the MiG-31 has two significant limitations:
firstly, it is very limited in range (combat radius with full armament and fuel is only 750 km) compared to the Tu-23M3M;
secondly, it carries only one hypersonic missile, while the Tu-23M3M will carry 4 such missiles.

[Nikolaevich I]

Well, I don’t know how in terms of fuel and lubricants ... but in terms of the warehouse of missiles, the use of the "Dagger" was arch-practical! The information was that an underground storage facility was built back in the USSR to store nuclear "munitions" and protect them from a NATO nuclear strike ... you can imagine how many meters of concrete and earth there were! It is not easy to take such heavily protected "shelters" and concrete-piercing "lorries"! And "Dagger" it turned out to be according to "abilities"! Tremendous speed...hence tremendous kinetic energy...result: impressive penetration through concrete!

[Altmann]

Friends, gradually, first for Kyiv, and then we will throw ourselves into the USA!

[Incvizitor]

They write about interceptions of negotiations on the topic of losses of mercenaries at that base near Lviv and there far beyond 200 corpses and 400+ 300x, and many heavy ones are still being dug up in heaps ...

They would stick a couple more missiles there so that those who dig out more minus.

[Aviator_]

Could Zircon also be tested in combat conditions, maybe soon? And the Dagger took out a BP warehouse at a depth of several tens of meters in rocky soil (a former warehouse of Soviet nuclear weapons) - that means a Dagger with a penetrating warhead. Respect!

[storm]

The hypersonic Zircon is currently completing tests and will soon begin to enter service with surface ships.

It is equally important to include ZIRCON in the arsenal of Bastion coastal missile systems, which will significantly increase their combat potential.

[Ros 56]

The striped ones will be sad, because their scows are rummaging all over the ocean, because they can run into.

[Laksamana besar]

The phrase "According to the aviation version ..." was pulled out of today's issue of the Military Acceptance: Hypersound. Zircon. Part 2.
If you haven't watched it, you can watch it on the channel's website:
https://tvzvezda.ru/schedule/programs/201412231323-1cpc.htm/2022320914-OEFFh.html

[Fisherman]

Apparently they have ALREADY done and are testing it in the Ruin ... ours love to keep secrets with deadlines.

[Blade3]

Oh, the good old days - you sit arguing with the Russophobes on duty who assure that the latest Russian hypersonic missiles are “cartoons”, and they don’t have target designation systems ... and now some of them are no longer alive when this missile went right in the ass. ..

[riwas]

The developer of the hypersonic Zircon announced a big step forward in creating an aviation version of the rocket

A coastal anti-ship version is probably also being developed.

[Andrew ))))))]

but it was possible to try out at least one ,, tserkon, to look around Lviv to see how they would run there, or to blow up some kind of base with mercenaries.