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In Norway, confirmed the losses among the US military in the fall of the tiltrotor Osprey during the exercise

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Western countries decided to demonstrate military solidarity with Russia by organizing troop maneuvers near its border. The Cold Response 2022 exercises, which are held in Norway, act as factors “restraining Moscow”.


As the high command of the alliance believed, the deployment of troops near Russia would show the Kremlin the readiness of Western countries to organize a “friendly” rebuff to a possible attack on NATO countries. However, an increase in the combat readiness of forces carries the risk of an increase in the accident rate of equipment that serves the interests of "partners".

As stated in the message of the US Department of Defense, as part of the exercises conducted in Norway, the tiltrotor Osprey MV-22B disappeared from the radar of ground observation stations. It belonged to the US Marine Corps, the cause of the accident is being investigated, but it is already talking about technical malfunctions of the machine associated with "difficult weather conditions." At the same time, the stated combination of factors sounds strange: after all, what was the reason - weather conditions or a malfunction? ..

At the moment, the Norwegian authorities have confirmed the fact that the tiltrotor with the US Army personnel on board crashed. It is known that the losses of the American contingent of the Marine Corps participating in the maneuvers amounted to 4 servicemen.

In total, NATO intends to deploy 30 fighters in Scandinavia, showing, as explained in the General Staff, the possibility of delivering a strike in the north-western direction with conventional weapons. Although, given the practice of Washington to refuse any agreements that are inconvenient for it, “conventionality” gets a rather vague framework.
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  1. Poetry
    Poetry 19 March 2022 15: 53
    +21
    Minus four. Very good.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 19 March 2022 15: 56
      +13
      about technical malfunctions of the machine associated with "difficult weather conditions." At the same time, the stated combination of factors sounds strange: so after all, what was the reason - weather conditions or a malfunction?..
      Failure of navigation devices in the SMU (lack of navigation, the position of the aircraft in space), icing of the HPH tubes (air pressure receivers), followed by the failure of all aneroid-membrane devices (altitude, speed, etc.)
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 19 March 2022 17: 43
        +3
        Everyone lies with the weather, showed off. Visibility to the horizon. I won’t be surprised if passengers appear.
        1. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 19 March 2022 19: 54
          +3
          Quote: tralflot1832
          everything is lying, showing off

          What lies, you are right. But they lie about where they died. They hide the ends of participation in Ukraine! yes
      2. Astra55
        Astra55 19 March 2022 20: 38
        +10
        Why, the PVD is frozen, that means everything, kayuk ....
        What about radio altimeters, DISS, GPS, gyroscopes...?
        And so, he grunted, well, and the root crop with him, there’s nothing for us to threaten with a fist here.
    2. Clear
      Clear 19 March 2022 16: 00
      +20
      Western countries decided to demonstrate military solidarity with Russia by organizing troop maneuvers near its border.

      Sorry, Western countries, we still have no time to admire your, in fact, lousy and rotten pseudo-solidarity.
      Russia now, as at all times, is much busy with the treatment of patients.
      Repeat your circus somersaults later, we'll laugh.
      1. Giant thought
        Giant thought 19 March 2022 16: 25
        +3
        As they say, not all convertiplanes are useful. And some even kill. And in general, there is no need to intimidate Russia with your maneuvers, we have our mighty Northern Fleet for your northern maneuvers.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 19 March 2022 16: 29
        +4
        Quote: Clear
        Russia now, as at all times, is much busy with the treatment of patients

        Here it is ... Not up to your "imaginations" ... Just don't get under your feet. God forbid.
      3. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 19 March 2022 16: 49
        +7
        You can laugh, that's what I found on Pryntsu. This barge already drags two planes on itself.
        Plus, all the English destroyers are under repair. The Americans helped out and gave a destroyer to escort. I'll look for Lizka, where she is.
    3. militarist63
      militarist63 20 March 2022 23: 58
      0
      Minus four. Very good.

      It won't be enough!!!...
  2. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 19 March 2022 15: 53
    +5
    A very complex machine ... after all, our design bureau did not "chase" this miracle "helicopter"
    1. Grits
      Grits 20 March 2022 03: 41
      +1
      Quote: Vladislav_2
      A very complex machine ... after all, our design bureau did not "chase" this miracle "helicopter"

      We simply have nowhere to base them. There are no UDC and light aircraft carriers. And the Mi-8 is still coping with the same task. As Gostomel showed, everything works out well without convertiplanes.
      1. ProkletyiPirat
        ProkletyiPirat 20 March 2022 22: 39
        0
        Quote: Gritsa
        We just have nowhere to base them

        And what? on the other hand, we have a huge scale of the country with a low population density and huge problems in terms of using the area from a military-geographical point of view. That's just for the latter, we would be very useful "BTA tiltrotor under LBBT" for a quick response to various problems in remote regions of the Russian Federation and neighboring countries.
  3. host
    host 19 March 2022 15: 54
    +9
    Minus one more iron for 120 lyams, prepare a “cold answer”: well, well.
  4. fiv
    fiv 19 March 2022 15: 57
    +6
    Probably, real estate in Tromsø is slowly getting cheaper. In connection with the successful launches of the Daggers. Although there are more goals for the older brothers of the Dagger.
    1. Retvizan1974
      Retvizan1974 19 March 2022 16: 16
      +1
      Rather, in connection with the unsuccessful launches of the Osprey MV-22B.! laughing This non-helicopter can also fall on the city ...
  5. Carat
    Carat 19 March 2022 16: 00
    +6
    Western countries have decided show solidarity in front of Russia, organizing troop maneuvers near its border.


    tiltrotor with those on board crashed by US Army personnel


    They demonstrated with a bang.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 19 March 2022 16: 09
      +1
      Quote: Carat

      They demonstrated with a bang.

      Let them continue to train. The main thing is that they "accidentally" do not fly to us. And there - let them fly ... for now
      1. Carat
        Carat 19 March 2022 16: 11
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        The main thing is that they "accidentally" do not fly to us.


        And if our air defenses fly in to us, they will train on real targets.
  6. Amper
    Amper 19 March 2022 16: 00
    +2
    God marks the assault ...
  7. Evil 55
    Evil 55 19 March 2022 16: 05
    +15
    One tiltrotor for the price of 4 Il-76 ... They know how to cut pins..doses babosy ..
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 19 March 2022 17: 37
      +1
      Yes, you are a poet, comrade. good good laughing
  8. YOUR
    YOUR 19 March 2022 16: 05
    +3
    In the United States, soon there will be no military personnel left. Everyone will be abroad.
  9. prior
    prior 19 March 2022 16: 06
    +6
    Osprey tiltrotor crash during exercise

    It is a pity.
    Very sorry.
    Too bad only one fell.
    I would have stood at an air base in America - I would have been intact.
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 March 2022 16: 10
    +3
    We must constantly monitor these exercises. How many more wonderful discoveries are waiting for us. So far I can’t find confirmation that an air wing has arrived at Prynets. Yesterday it was still in the “barge” mode.
  11. sen
    sen 19 March 2022 16: 13
    +3
    What are the teachings? Cold Response was announced with two aircraft carriers. The American carrier group will be led by the aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman. This aircraft carrier, after a long break after the end of the Cold War, was already coming to northern waters to participate in the Trident Juncture - 2018 exercises. The then exit of the American aircraft carrier to the Barents Sea ended in failure. The icing of the decks deprived the ship of combat capability.
    https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2022/01/21/ucheniya-nato-cold-response-2022-celi-i-opaseniya-norvegii
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 19 March 2022 16: 41
      +2
      Truman is in the Middle-earth with de Gaulle. In the north, the British are puffed up. The prince is exactly there, Lizka disappeared somewhere. We must look.
  12. Musker
    Musker 19 March 2022 16: 58
    +5
    Let them fall more often, my mood improves immediately.
    1. Grits
      Grits 20 March 2022 03: 45
      0
      Quote: Masker
      Let them fall more often, my mood improves immediately.

      It is a pity that not on the deck of an aircraft carrier
  13. Nikolay Sayenko
    Nikolay Sayenko 19 March 2022 17: 03
    +5
    that's how many exercises they have to conduct so that all the envelopes break (+4 Americans)?
  14. lomograph
    lomograph 19 March 2022 17: 15
    +7
    Well, a couple more such exercises, and the "partners" will defeat themselves.
    Let's!
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 March 2022 17: 33
    +1
    Well, it happens. and to be honest, we are not up to them.
  16. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 March 2022 18: 03
    +3
    already talking about the technical malfunctions of the machine associated with "difficult weather conditions." At the same time, the stated combination of factors sounds strange: after all, what was the reason - weather conditions or a malfunction? ..
    recourse What is not clear? It's hot outside (-4), they turned on the conder, short circuit, the fuses melted, the batteries ran out, the tiltrotor too, but like a hatchet. Is it possible to have Norwegian herring on board? "And then in the newspapers they write dully about it ..." (Balzaminov's marriage)
  17. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 19 March 2022 18: 23
    -3
    https://www.forsvaret.no/en/exercises-and-operations/exercises/cr22[b][/b]Here is a link for people who are interested in NATO military activity on our borders. Clean \information. crap /// in the past, a very good MILITARY site /// each article on VO is accompanied by a pack of brainless soba k. They start their barking rag about politics or, in a nationalist frenzy, yelp about the superiority of one community over another. But how cheerful, easy and articles about pure militarism are excellent here. Without any bot mraota, purely calibers, performance characteristics, etc. .
  18. AML
    AML 19 March 2022 18: 23
    +6
    Just like with Ukraine. The Russians have not yet arrived, but they have already begun to lose. (I'm talking about 14 years old)
  19. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 19 March 2022 18: 27
    +1
    Due to difficult weather conditions, a technical malfunction arose. I wonder if they create military equipment, which, in theory, should operate in combat conditions for ideal flying weather? The wind has risen - the weather is not flying? Did it rain, or, God forbid, snow, and - that's it, the tank cannot be operated? If so, then I don't envy them. wassat
  20. kirosi
    kirosi 19 March 2022 18: 57
    0
    the stated combination of factors sounds strange:
    what's strange? any equipment has operating permits in certain conditions: max / min temperature, etc. It seems that such equipment, as in this case, has serious limitations in terms of wind conditions.
    1. Errr
      Errr 19 March 2022 22: 20
      +2
      It has long been known that the Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey handles poorly in strong tailwinds. Therefore, in this case, it could well have been just a sharp gust of tailwind.

      On April 11, 2012, MV-22B Marines took part in an exercise in Morocco. Turning slowly to avoid flying over some of the tents, the crew of one encountered a confluence of hazardous conditions unknown to Osprey designers at the time. A strong tailwind lowered the tiltrotor's nose and shifted its center of gravity. The tiltrotor went out of control and crashed into the ground, injuring the flight crew of two and killing two crew leaders who were in the cargo hold.
      In August of that year, the Marines announced the results of the Air Crash Investigation Board. Investigators concluded that "a series of inaccurate decisions and actions in the cockpit" led to the crash. But they advised the Corps not to take any administrative or disciplinary action against the pilots. Instead, the command recommended that the Marines update the Osprey flight manual to eliminate the danger of turning at low speed and with a tailwind.
      https://www.wired.com/2012/10/air-force-silenced-general/

      By the way, a similar tailwind problem was also found in the smaller Bell/Agusta BA609 tiltrotor.
      They are very unreliable birds. Their huge propellers in level flight become their own curse.
  21. Normann
    Normann 19 March 2022 20: 00
    +1
    If we were at home, we would be alive and well.
  22. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 19 March 2022 21: 11
    +1
    "the losses of the American contingent of the Marine Corps participating in the maneuvers amounted to 4 troops." Beat your own so that strangers are afraid laughing
  23. parathyron
    parathyron 19 March 2022 22: 55
    +1
    He flip-flopped ... It happens ...