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Czech expert discusses how relations between Europe and Russia will develop after the special operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine

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The heads of some European states, for example. Germany and France, until recently, relatively good working relations have developed with Russian President Vladimir Putin. But after the start of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine, communication between them became somewhat strained.


This was noted by a political scientist from the Czech Republic, Professor Oskar Krejci, in an interview with the journalists of the Parlamentní listy newspaper.

The Czech political scientist discusses how relations between Europe and Russia will develop after the special operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine, which he considers not sudden, but planned in advance by Vladimir Putin. In Paris and Berlin, they understand that sooner or later it (the special operation) will end, and the result will be the way Moscow wants to see it. Therefore, Germany and France, being members of NATO and allies of the United States, although they make unfriendly decisions towards Russia, do not do it too hard. Unlike the leaders of the leading European states, not everyone in Europe understands that they will have to somehow get along with Russia, maintain ties with it even after the special operation. Therefore, the authorities of a number of European countries express themselves and act improvidently in relation to the Russian Federation.

Only some countries with minimal responsibility reacted one-sidedly and emotionally

- says Kreychi about them, without specifying who exactly they are talking about.

This week, arriving by train, several high-ranking politicians from Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia visited the Ukrainian capital. In Kyiv, they met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Prime Minister Denys Shmygal.
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  1. YOUR
    YOUR 19 March 2022 14: 50
    +1
    There are all videos on 5, especially from the first person of our helicopter pilot. But that's not why I posted the link. Pay attention to the last photo which patriots rushed to the Czech Republic
    https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/boj_rossijskogo_vertoleta_ka_52_v_gostomele_ot_pervogo_lica_muzhiki_ja_podbit_idu_na_vynuzhdennuju_2022/60-1-0-11647
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 19 March 2022 15: 07
      +19
      Czech Republic, what's the deal, what will happen AFTER?
      The Czech Republic is still BEFORE recognized as an unfriendly country.
      So nothing will change for her.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 19 March 2022 17: 33
        +4
        Czech expert discusses how relations between Europe and Russia will develop after the special operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine

        In a good way, they will not add up. Everything will remain the same, how bad it is now. There are certain prerequisites for this. Namely,

        Suffice it to recall the Siberian echelon of Kolchak with the gold reserves of the Republic of Ingushetia and the Czechoslovak Corps stolen from him and taken out through Japan during the civil war from Soviet Russia.
        Through Japan, the gold reserves of the Republic of Ingushetia ended up in Europe in the hands of Czech industrialists and, unlike the plight of other European countries after WWI, helped the Czechoslovak Republic significantly raise the country's economy and the well-being of its citizens. The shoe industry and military-industrial complex factories received special development in the Czech Republic at that time.

        In mid-March 1939, the Czechoslovak Republic ceased to exist, now it is divided into the Bohemian protectorate and Slovakia. Hitler gets the most famous factories, equipped for that time just perfectly. Among them are such as ChKD, "Zbroevka", "Skoda".
        The factories produce self-propelled guns, tanks, ammunition, artillery, vehicles, parts and necessary components for V-2 missiles.
        The Czech Republic became the weapons forge of the Third Reich.

        The work of Czech factories for weapons of the Wehrmacht was conducted without interruption until May 1945 and was stopped by the Czechs just 4 days before the official victory of the Soviet Union.

        TOTAL Czech nationalists, lobbyists and owners of Czech The military-industrial complex, as they profited from the war before, will continue to profit from military conflicts around the world, especially in conflicts with Russia! They do not need good neighborly relations with Russia at all!
        1. kytx
          kytx 21 March 2022 12: 45
          +1
          I generally read that the Czechs managed to ship the last echelon of weapons to Germany on March 15, 1945. request
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 19 March 2022 18: 37
        0
        Czech Republic, what's the deal, what will happen AFTER?

        This is where you have to start. Looks like they are also thinking of snatching a piece.
        Some European countries may put forward territorial claims to Ukraine and call into question the sovereignty of the country. Czech professor Oskar Krejci spoke about this in an interview with Parliamentní listy....
    2. gansales
      gansales 19 March 2022 15: 14
      +19
      Czech expert discusses how relations between Europe and Russia will develop

      How ? Yes, just like that, as usual in our history ...

      What else is there to add to the words of our great Pushkin, and Dostoevsky also said a lot there .. Everything returns to its own circles and be afraid of Russian wrath Europe-opa
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        1. Kayala
          Kayala 19 March 2022 16: 20
          +25
          So go and beat yourself up, or better yet, kill yourself against the wall. We have seen such, ahedzhahnuty in a coffin in white slippers. I personally have nothing to be ashamed of, I was ashamed of Yeltsin's Russia and Gorbachev's USSR, but now I'm not ashamed for the first time in a long time!
          1. Living7111972
            Living7111972 19 March 2022 16: 30
            +21
            I have nothing to be ashamed of, my Russia stood to death in Tajikistan, did not leave the battles in the Caucasus, we were spat in the soul at home ...
            They will say you serve for money, but not so much money!
            I'm proud of the boys!!! Real...
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 19 March 2022 17: 06
              +10
              Quote: Helixtruck
              Being a patriot and a jingoistic patriot are different concepts. You need to have the courage to think. Contemporary of Pushkin, who believed in a brighter future

              Chaadaev. Captain of the Semyonovsky regiment.
              famous regiment. Famous for spoiling everyone. Participated in the murder of Pavel-1. He participated in the rebellion against Alexander-1 (by the way, it was Chaadaev who sent the rebellious regiment as an ambassador to the emperor, only Chaadaev "wanted to appear in all his attire" and dressed up for too long. While preening, the entire regiment was able to be detained and sent to the Peter and Paul Fortress, that's how he and escaped arrest. In the revolution of 1905 this regiment shot unarmed people. And after the revolution of 1917, the regiment declared itself an adherent of the Bolsheviks, but rather quickly betrayed and killed the communists who trusted him and went over to the side of the whites, where he ingloriously surrendered in 1920 (near Minetopol, by the way)

              Alexander-1 was a kind person. So Chaadaev was not sent to prison after all the officers. They were allowed to retire from the army, although without the traditional promotion in the rank of a retiree. Chaadaev wrote about this "I found it more amusing to neglect this mercy than to seek it. I was pleased to show disdain for people who neglect everyone ... It is even more pleasant for me in this case to see the anger of an arrogant fool" - this is how he thanked the one who left him free .

              And then he vilified his fatherland with mud. And he succeeded so much that he was simply declared crazy.

              Chaadaev is an excellent source of quotes for the "fifth column"
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 19 March 2022 17: 11
            -15
            You are not ashamed of it now - but tomorrow it will be for the standard of living in the country.
            1. surok1
              surok1 20 March 2022 19: 24
              +2
              Let's rephrase Churchill. Who for the sake of stew refuses glory, he will not receive either glory or stew.
            2. anykin
              anykin 20 March 2022 19: 36
              -1
              Neighborhood with an anti-Russian, Nazi state guaranteed prosperity?
        2. Clear
          Clear 19 March 2022 16: 37
          +12
          Quote: Helixtruck
          Being a patriot and a jingoistic patriot are different concepts. You need to have the courage to think. A contemporary of Pushkin who believed in a brighter future:
          [center] [img]

          Well, you discovered America.
          Nobody denies that Chaadaev was a person of Western orientation.
          His main requirement was, quote "compel Russia to switch to new ways..." .
          And, of course, the new ones are Western.
          I always tried to write only in French, because. knew him better than Russian.
          He, then, is today's Venediktov and the evil "K" ("Echo of Moscow").
          Only one expression of Chaadaev "Russians, this is a gap in the moral world order .." speaks volumes.
          His fellow tribesman, no less famous N. Yazykov, wrote then about the "fifth column" like Chaadaev:
          Oh you who want
          Transform, ruin us
          And provide Russia! Listen
          My simple-hearted exalted!
          You arrogant and daring people
          You reckless stronghold
          Teachings of the Bogomersky school,
          You are all not Russian, you are the people!

          N. Yazykov
        3. Dima68
          Dima68 19 March 2022 19: 40
          +6
          Was Chaadaev a patriot? The usual liberal, only the 19th century.
          1. helixtruck
            helixtruck 19 March 2022 22: 18
            -7
            I have not learned to love my homeland with my eyes closed, my head bowed, my mouth shut. I find that a person can be useful to his country only if he understands it well; I think that the time of blind love has passed, that now we are primarily indebted to our homeland for the truth. I love my fatherland, as Peter the Great taught me to love it. I confess that this blissful patriotism, this patriotism of laziness, which manages to see everything in a rosy light and rushes about with its illusions, is alien to me, and which, unfortunately, many efficient minds suffer from now. - Pyotr Yakovlevich Chaadaev
            1. Kayala
              Kayala 20 March 2022 08: 34
              +6
              Put your chaadaev in a place where Makar did not drive calves, along with other "patriots" a la Makarevich, Akhedzhakov, Kasparov and other evil spirits. We do not understand the varieties of shit!
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              1. surok1
                surok1 20 March 2022 19: 28
                0
                Do not seek judgment in the west from strangers. Looking for justice there is very naive.
                1. Dima68
                  Dima68 20 March 2022 21: 59
                  0
                  What court? Chaadaev quarreled with Alexander-1 and simply fled from his homeland.
                  Where to live is a personal matter, but in this case there is no need to shout about your patriotism. An ordinary opportunist, like thousands of his kind. If not for Pushkin, who would now remember about Chaadaev.
    3. demo
      demo 19 March 2022 16: 19
      +2
      Yeah.
      Status clunkers.
      Fatty carp "leaked" to the Czech Republic.
      It's a pity!
  2. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 19 March 2022 14: 52
    +15
    In Paris and Berlin they understand

    Because they know how and where wars with Russia end.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 19 March 2022 14: 55
      +6
      Quote: 16112014nk
      Because they know how and where wars with Russia end.

      It’s not entirely obvious, they don’t understand that the states want to solve their American crisis at their expense (at the expense of Europe and not Russia, for us it’s clear as daylight now) by driving Europe into such a tail. Otherwise, America will not solve its crisis, you need to seriously sacrifice someone (Europe in this case), the states will drive them into such a tail that they never even dreamed of, and then they will still act as saviors (Marshall's second plan) Everyone will be the most I want until end of life amers pay tribute.
      1. just exp
        just exp 19 March 2022 15: 05
        +7
        so the elimination of the EU as an independent economic unit was the original plan of this story.
        and Russia is just an excuse, that's why we were slinged into this war. unlike 2014, they did everything for Russia to go to war.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 19 March 2022 15: 13
          +1
          Quote: just explo
          did everything to make Russia come to the war.

          Now she has. I'm sure if they don't have enough Ukraine, Poland will be next under the tank, and I think, apparently, right after the fall of Ukraine, Ukraine won't be enough for them. No. And NATO will not climb (or maybe it will climb with NATO forces in EUROPE, with the exception of the insolent people), the US itself will definitely only grind with its tongue.
          1. Ryaruav
            Ryaruav 19 March 2022 15: 19
            +3
            it is unlikely that Poland, rather the tribaltic, who is not sorry, but the Poles for them is his trump card for now it will be a pity to lose
            1. sagitovich
              sagitovich 19 March 2022 15: 48
              +4
              Let the Poles digest the Ukrainians. Become the same, so be it. They will get their p.
          2. just exp
            just exp 19 March 2022 15: 22
            +6
            they don’t need Poland anymore, only one thing was required from the ruins, to make Russia come to the war, and she came.
            all the work is done, nothing more is needed from them.
            Yes, they will mischief, psheks will run up (moderately), but obviously not to the scale of the war.
            but if you are talking about the fact that the states, even for the sake of Poland, will not lift a finger militarily, then I agree.
            mattresses protect themselves, and they need all sorts of blocks to send others to die instead of themselves.
            and if you have to die yourself for the sake of someone, then why do they need such a block?
            Pshekov, the history of 1939 and the "strange war" did not teach anything.
            1. volodimer
              volodimer 19 March 2022 17: 23
              +2
              Only some countries with minimal responsibility reacted one-sidedly and emotionally

              Putin had a slightly different term: "with reduced social responsibility" ..
              So we saw these "professional networks" countries. NATO will not fight for Poland or Tribaltia. you and Andrei Borisovich, perhaps right, a comedy will be played. They will be handed over to us, in the hope that Russia, which, out of habit, will restore everything itself, will overstrain. You can knock on the ears (demilitarize), and then leave it like that, let them sort it out themselves.
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        2. Fat
          Fat 19 March 2022 15: 38
          -3
          hi Agree. I won't be surprised if the "secret protocol" of the agreement between the US and Russia regarding the European Union really "emerges".
          I will not go into the wonders of the "world conspiracy", but conspiracy theories are just around the corner. wassat
      2. surok1
        surok1 20 March 2022 19: 34
        +1
        And lgbt +++ with multiculturalism in the same topic. Ehrenburg has a novel "Trust DE" that's all about it.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 19 March 2022 15: 04
      +8
      All this operation is natural. Everything is better than what was in the Ukrainian SSR - collapsed, plundered and destroyed. Factories, fleet, Russian language. Dead to zigging in the streets, inciting ethnic hatred and the destruction of civilians in Donbass. A state that has pursued such a policy for 30 years has no right to exist. The fate of the people of this state no longer matters. For all this happened with the tacit consent and support of this, the Ukrainian people.
    3. gansales
      gansales 19 March 2022 15: 17
      +3
      Quote: 16112014nk
      In Paris and Berlin they understand

      Because they know how and where wars with Russia end.

      Not yet in Washington and London, although they have been running up stealthily for a long time .. their work is ALL world wars, etc.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 19 March 2022 17: 29
        +1
        Paris and Berlin are now in a quiet a.kue, from understanding how Washington and London framed them. All their direct fire sanctions flew at them, but from impudence, almost like water off a duck's back. Oil has not been calculated. Oh, we haven’t said anything about uranium yet... But in general, it turns out that the EU has set itself up, and these ones, because of the puddle, have not yet suffered serious losses.
      2. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 19 March 2022 18: 17
        +1
        Quote from gansales
        Not in Washington and London yet

        Yes, in Washington and London, Russia has not yet ended the war. But there are no guarantees that it will not end like in Paris and Berlin. If they run into, then in the end they always run into. Russia needs to change its line of behavior a little - live with wolves, but not howl, but keep your gun at the ready. What Russia is now showing.
        1. gansales
          gansales 20 March 2022 09: 25
          +1
          Quote: 16112014nk
          Russia needs to change its line of behavior a little - to live with wolves, but not to howl, but to keep the gun at the ready. What Russia is now showing.

          I really hope so too! Wow what a squeal worth ..))))
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 19 March 2022 14: 52
    +5
    The current politicians in Europe are not like the post-war ones, who knew not from pictures what war is, and experienced its effect on their own skin. And that it’s not worth fighting with Russia (then the USSR), it will come out more expensive for yourself.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 19 March 2022 14: 53
    +5
    The Czech may be right in his reasoning, but his words are only a personal opinion. His homeland is diligently climbing without soap in order to curry favor with the Yankees!
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  6. evgen1221
    evgen1221 19 March 2022 15: 00
    +3
    The fact of the matter is that all politicians today do not care about the interests of the population, there are income graphs and bills, that's all. And what will happen next, but don’t care, I’m not here, let others figure it out, corporations didn’t pay me for this.
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 March 2022 15: 03
    0
    I, as an "expert" in VO, I can say for sure. Tomorrow will not be the same as yesterday. Do not read experts before dinner, from the word at all. You only need to read those who are in power.
  8. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 19 March 2022 15: 04
    +4
    The authorities of a number of European countries express themselves and act improvidently in relation to the Russian Federation.

    Arriving by train this week, the Ukrainian capital was visited by several high-ranking politicians from Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia.

    ***
    "... According to my inner conviction, the most complete and irresistible - Russia will not have, and never has had, such haters, envious people, slanderers and even obvious enemies as all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them as liberated!
    ---
    After liberation, they will begin their new life, I repeat, precisely by asking for themselves from Europe, England and Germany, for example, a guarantee and protection of their freedom, and even though Russia will be included in the concert of the European powers, but they are in protection from Russia and will do it ... "
    ---
    F.M. Dostoevsky
    ***
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 March 2022 15: 10
    +4
    One thing is clear, those relations will no longer exist, and even more so with the Czechs. They showed themselves to be excellent lackeys of the striped ones.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 19 March 2022 15: 16
    +3
    Czech expert discusses how relations between Europe and Russia will develop after the special operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine
    . Such gay European politicians now ... think about later, they will later!
    Strange as it is, but no longer surprising. Such are they politicians, brought up by impudent and other "teachers".
  11. Mitia68
    Mitia68 19 March 2022 15: 33
    +2
    ... the authorities of a number of European countries express themselves and act improvidently in relation to the Russian Federation.


    Is he apparently referring to his Czech president Milos Zeman?
    After all, it was Zeman who said this:

    The madman must be isolated and protected from him not with words, but with concrete actions ... We must act as courageous people who do not allow themselves to enjoy aggression
  12. Sergey Zhikharev
    Sergey Zhikharev 19 March 2022 15: 42
    +4
    Will improve.
    For, to worsen the situation further, this is already a war.
    Sanctions are hurting the Europeans.
    Awareness that Russia can act decisively and tough.
    Therefore, after the end of the operation, you can see that the Nazis were in Ukraine, and admit that Russia was right
    1. 1Alexey
      1Alexey 19 March 2022 20: 43
      0
      Quote: Sergey Zhikharev
      Therefore, after the end of the operation, you can see that the Nazis were in Ukraine, and admit that Russia was right

      Yes, they do know that. In the United States, for example, Congress has officially recognized Azov as a "disgusting Nazi formation."
      Here is the link: https://www.vesti.ru/article/1745815

      But they (the West) aim is to harm Russia. For this, the West has been preparing Ukraine for years (as a springboard against Russia).
      1. Sergey Zhikharev
        Sergey Zhikharev 20 March 2022 07: 18
        0
        So they will make surprised eyes "and how did we not notice this before" (atrocities or congressional recognition)?
  13. Emergency
    Emergency 19 March 2022 15: 46
    +2
    The Czech Republic, Poland, Bulgaria and Slovakia will have a hard time. what And the Baltic pugs are already in the back ... this square.
  14. poquello
    poquello 19 March 2022 15: 49
    +1
    "This week, arriving by train, several high-ranking politicians from Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia visited the Ukrainian capital. In Kyiv, they met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal."
    we were driving in a sealed carriage, and for some reason we didn’t meet Nicknames, who are the only ones who get into the frames with dynamic views of Kyiv, well, this rumor is evil, maybe it really is, the Moon is so mysterious)
  15. lomograph
    lomograph 19 March 2022 15: 57
    +4
    Ah, ah, a political scientist from the Czech Republic says that Putin had a plan... Like an old man, but he is talking nonsense.
    Putin did not have a plan, but PLANS.
    And now there are plans.
    A plan in case Poland intervenes, a plan if Germany intervenes together with Poland, a plan if the Czech Republic intervenes with Poland minus Germany, a plan if (suddenly) minus Germany and all its satellites plus their overlords ... The General Staff writes plans for all occasions.
    By the way, the General Staff also has plans for Prague and its environs, if anything.
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  17. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 19 March 2022 16: 00
    0
    I think there will be a "separation" of new arrivals (if the niche is not occupied) .... but in THIS WORLD money decides EVERYTHING! I don’t know what the government should do .... but you can just send individual ones !!! and replace
  18. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 19 March 2022 16: 03
    0
    And what did he say? What is the point of the article?
  19. demo
    demo 19 March 2022 16: 17
    0
    This week, arriving by train, several high-ranking politicians from Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia visited the Ukrainian capital. In Kyiv, they met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Prime Minister Denys Shmygal.
    So Kyiv seems to be practically surrounded. Or I'm wrong?
    And the trains go back and forth. Some personalities can come and go.
    What kind of operation is this, if such events occur?
    Well, nothing is clear!
  20. sen
    sen 19 March 2022 16: 23
    +1
    Czech expert discusses how relations between Europe and Russia will develop after the special operation of the Russian Federation in Ukraine

    Over time, everything will settle down. Russia is too big and rich in resources to be ignored.
  21. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 19 March 2022 16: 42
    +1
    After the carrot (Ukraine) is eaten, there will be no reason to hate (for the sake of the overseas godfather). For the time being, for the time being, of course. Until a new command is received. And all the mutts will wag their tails, apologize and beg for gas, fertilizer, energy, and other things that they will starve for by then.
    1. surok1
      surok1 20 March 2022 19: 43
      0
      Here the former GDR was rotten and the Serbs. Let the gifts be put there.
  22. Elephant
    Elephant 19 March 2022 17: 52
    +1
    Europe is an unreliable partner! Integration into the world economy turns us into an object of capitalist exploitation. We must go our own way, build an industrial economy in the country!
  23. infantrefir
    infantrefir 19 March 2022 17: 59
    0
    "Great European Country" Czech Republic. US colony, puffs out his cheeks importantly. What they say is what you will do, what is Germany, what is France, what is the rest of the trifle .....
  24. Amper
    Amper 19 March 2022 18: 29
    0
    Slivovitz they have - der .. mo! Slivovitz was changed for vodka - without looking! Beer from the main breweries-class! We and Zhigulevskoe, however, did not go badly under vodka. In the days of the USSR, there were normal people (I warmly remember a meeting in an agricultural cooperative ... we drank them to joint songs - Katyusha, etc., There were glorious times) Let them mate with Caucasians for the freedom of Europe. Shit..no time now! Happiness that he lived in the USSR is the main thing, as he stole it. I can even write almost without mistakes! Go Russia! As you can, good luck guys, in kind!
    We don't drink Czech anymore!!!!! So guys!? Who drinks is the enemy of our soldiers and Russia! Czech beer in the trash, in front of their embassy! Go Russia!
  25. Jekakiller258
    Jekakiller258 19 March 2022 22: 35
    0
    All unworthy Europe with its sodomites and Judas will have to crawl on their knees to Russia with a plea to resume dialogue.
  26. Essex62
    Essex62 20 March 2022 10: 31
    0
    The inevitable collapse of the European Reich, in the wake of the boom in the most developed countries of the geyropa, may well change the alignment. When a house is on fire, they extinguish it, and do not listen to someone else's uncle.
  27. antikilller55
    antikilller55 20 March 2022 18: 40
    0
    I hope we will no longer get into these all sorts of passes, advice from Europe and other things that we absolutely do not need, even if they themselves call. It's time to become self-sufficient to the maximum extent possible, and we don't really need this Europe.
  28. surok1
    surok1 20 March 2022 19: 16
    0
    These heads met with equals. And this is about the Czech Republic as well.
  29. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 20 March 2022 20: 26
    0
    "This week, arriving by train, several high-ranking politicians from Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia visited the Ukrainian capital. In Kyiv, they met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal."

    how did they get to Kyiv, what else are they working on? yet another fake!!!
  30. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 20 March 2022 20: 29
    0
    Quote: demo
    This week, arriving by train, several high-ranking politicians from Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia visited the Ukrainian capital. In Kyiv, they met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Prime Minister Denys Shmygal.
    So Kyiv seems to be practically surrounded. Or I'm wrong?
    And the trains go back and forth. Some personalities can come and go.
    What kind of operation is this, if such events occur?
    Well, nothing is clear!

    that's all fake, they climbed to the negotiations through Poland, and then the diplomats in Kyiv - I don’t believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!