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Is Odessa waiting for us?

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Many people ask me a question. Is Odessa waiting for us?


I won't delay - ODESSA WAITS! But who, how and with what, I will try to tell below. Please do not judge strictly. To determine a point, as is known, at least three coordinates are required. Let's assume that my opinion is only one of them.

For those who don't wait. Those who came to Odessa from the western regions after the age of 14. For study, in search of a better share or for doing business in the conquered territory. There are those who have always been here. Although native Odessans among them are not even a quarter. I'm talking about the so-called local elites.

All these eight years they got along wonderfully with the Kiev authorities, who gave them the city to feed. Who was there and with whom agreed, we will find out later. But the leadership of the city now and the times of the late Yanukovych are about the same people. Positions changed, but the names all remained familiar... Apparently, the personal economic prosperity of the "elites" and their entourage was remarkably combined with the ideological expansion of Galicia into all spheres of life in multinational Odessa. The Kivalov-Kolesnichenko law was abolished, literally, at the first meeting of the post-Maidan Verkhovna Rada. Then "decommunization" began - the struggle with the names of streets, monuments and symbols of the great era.

The leadership of the city, skillfully balancing on this topic, then intimidated Odessans with billboards depicting the suffering of Donbass. Then suddenly, unctuously promised the townspeople to return the name of Marshal Zhukov to the avenue. Schools in Odessa said goodbye to the Russian language, sellers and cashiers EVERYWHERE, under pain of punishment, began to speak "Move". The city that Utyosov saw in a dream still plunged into a nightmare.

When it all started, and my friends started talking about the fact that Odessa was about to invite Russian troops, I said that this would not happen. Those who are waiting for the LIBERATION of Odessa are in the overwhelming majority in the city. But they are unarmed, divided and intimidated. Let the few, but equipped "death squadrons" - now a real force against the townspeople.

The local "terodefense" detachments consist of those who have grandmothers' graves not even in the Odessa region. They are ready to kill and burn in the city, captured, but not conquered by them. He is a stranger to them. Odessa is a foreground for them. As we understand, all this national rabble is worth nothing without the direct support of the city authorities. I simply do not believe that the former captain of the Red Army and the current mayor does not make his choice consciously.

I don’t count other people’s money, but we still pick up a “calculator”. For eight years of "feeding" the city "elites" probably did not collect hryvnias or dollars in bags. And they wisely invested "honestly earned" in near and far abroad and, of course, in the city itself. There is a change of power...

Option one. They start to cooperate. And everything acquired by overwork on the spot is not a fact that will not change its owners. A lot of people have a "stigma in the cannon." And it is absolutely guaranteed that you can say goodbye to your good in Marseilles, Antalya and Haifa. Cooperation with Russia for them is not just sanctions and the arrest of a foreign mine, but also the IMPOSSIBILITY to travel to bright foreign distances. The question arises - do they need it?

The second option. Under which these people will cling to Odessa, which they have privatized, to the last inhabitant of Odessa. I am sure that when showing the right pictures before the liberation of Odessa, more blood and destruction during the operation, they were guaranteed compensation, and evacuation, and a barrel of jam with a box of cookies. Leave, slamming the door loudly - will be highly appreciated by the owners. Russia simply has nothing, for today, to offer these nice people who decide the fate of the city.

Now about the "DEMONSTRATION" of readiness. That's right, the word "demonstration" in capital letters. Barricades of sandbags in the most ridiculous, for defense, places in the city center. Trolleybuses serpentine past the "hedgehogs" along Rishelyevskaya. Proud of themselves teroborontsy and other varieties with a variety of weapons and equipment. All this looks like a decoration and is designed for domestic consumption. Support those who run tomorrow and intimidate those who wait. Odessa is a landmark imperial city, just like Sevastopol. While preserving all the national, cultural, linguistic diversity, the flag of a failed nationalist state should never be raised over our city again.

*the title of the article is the words from the song "Callsign Odessa" by I. Sivak
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  1. ALARI
    ALARI 21 March 2022 13: 44
    +6
    Why guess, we'll find out before the summer.
    1. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 21 March 2022 13: 51
      +21
      If you asked in 2014, you definitely waited, now the propaganda with the washing of consciousness for 8 years has done its job, you need to know the mentality of dill, they are corrupt and recognize strength, if we show the seriousness of intentions to obey and years later ..... they will sing Russian songs on the territory of Odessa federal district. Russia has come FOREVER, whoever does not understand this will understand.
      1. Carat
        Carat 21 March 2022 14: 28
        +3
        Quote: ancestors from the Don
        If you asked in 2014, you definitely waited, now the propaganda with the washing of consciousness for 8 years has done its job, you need to know the mentality of dill, they are corrupt and recognize strength if we show the seriousness of intentions to obey even years later ....


        Unfortunately, propaganda for 30 years has washed the brains of all Ukrainians. Especially in the last 8 years. It will be necessary to re-educate everyone, and this will take at least a year.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 21 March 2022 14: 55
          +7
          Propaganda is propaganda, but here they have already sort of settled down, wiped themselves off, outlined some kind of prospect for themselves, some are good, some how it turned out. And now to face the choice of the next misunderstandings ... It’s like they’re not against a change of power, but no one knows the prospects, so I think that’s right, “I’m FOR” there are not very many now. In fact, yes, it will already be clearer there. Look in the same Mariupol, Volnovakha, etc. people still have not even outlived their fear, even though there is no place to live and it is not at all clear what. In one thing, I am sure that when planning this event, all this was taken into account and people will return to normal life and again people will have a perspective, without which it is generally difficult to live.
          1. Carat
            Carat 21 March 2022 15: 06
            -4
            Quote: NIKNN
            In one thing, I am sure that when planning this event, all this was taken into account and people will return to normal life and again people will have a perspective, without which it is generally difficult to live.


            I am sure of this too. Therefore, they do not equate cities with artillery to the ground.
          2. Yura
            Yura 21 March 2022 16: 56
            0
            Quote: NIKNN
            wiped themselves off, outlined some kind of perspective for themselves, some good, some how it turned out. And now to face the choice of the next misunderstandings ..
            And this is all against the background of the fact that the real economy in Ukraine practically did not develop, with the exception of crime, which was controlled by the nationalists, in almost all areas of activity.
            1. Civil
              Civil 21 March 2022 18: 46
              +11
              Judging by Mariupol, such articles are harmful. We must prepare for a multi-day assault, in full, without snot and lisping. Underestimating the enemy is like death.
        2. soul
          soul 21 March 2022 15: 16
          +15
          Quote: Carat
          It will be necessary to re-educate everyone and it will take at least a year

          At least a year? A whole generation, ≈ 20 years
          1. Carat
            Carat 21 March 2022 15: 20
            -3
            The population has turned from pro-Russian to anti-Russian even during Poroshenko's time. A year was enough for him, but will we need 20 years?
      2. Chervony Biker
        21 March 2022 16: 27
        +10
        now there is VERY lack of counter-propaganda on the "move". This is a huge omission. I can say that the fight now must be waged for those who doubt and those who have lost faith. "Dumb" is a clear minority.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 22 March 2022 06: 29
          +4
          Quote: Red Biker
          now there is VERY lacking, counter-propaganda on the "move"

          Those who do not understand the Russian language, or pretend that they do not understand, and even more defiantly declare that they do not want to understand, it is useless to promote. At least in Move, at least in English-German-French-Hebrew, and even in Esperanto. They need to open a corridor to Galicia, and those who did not use the corridor in time will only have to be disposed of. And all the other inhabitants of Odessa will perfectly understand Russian.
          Fortunately, unfortunately, but Russia cannot leave Odessa to Banderland, if only because otherwise it would not be possible to provide access to the PMR, where Russian-speaking people who do not want to become Romanians live, and the Russian military contingent, without which Transnistria would already be in full swing romanization.
    2. Machito
      Machito 21 March 2022 13: 56
      +2
      We'll find out in April.
    3. Cosm22
      Cosm22 21 March 2022 14: 29
      -3
      Quote: ALARI
      Why guess, we'll find out before the summer.

      That is, are we going to fight until the summer?
      Normalek.
      And until the summer of what year, you can specify?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 March 2022 14: 32
        +1
        Quote: Cosm22
        And until the summer of what year, you can specify?

        As Zhirik will wash his boots in the Indian Ocean, we will fight until then.
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 21 March 2022 16: 33
          +2
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: Cosm22
          And until the summer of what year, you can specify?

          As Zhirik will wash his boots in the Indian Ocean, we will fight until then.


          It won't wash...
      2. ALARI
        ALARI 21 March 2022 15: 56
        -1
        I hope the summer of 2022, but as for why it takes so long to fight, so two or more parties are involved and it is not known who will connect, and they are not going to give up, on the contrary, the bitterness is growing. You do not see?
        1. Chervony Biker
          21 March 2022 16: 32
          +7
          I SEE ... To fight for real, Russia has not yet begun. The outflow of refugees from the districts of hostilities works for the RF Armed Forces. Now the main thing is not to stand on ceremony with those who resist, to spare the civilian population and build up counter-propaganda on the Move.
          1. -Paul-
            -Paul- 21 March 2022 21: 04
            +1
            Why on the move? Everyone there knows Russian.
          2. -Paul-
            -Paul- 21 March 2022 21: 07
            +4
            Again, on what language?! In this modern, stuffed with polonism move or literary Ukrainian language?
            1. Chervony Biker
              21 March 2022 23: 45
              0
              on literary. And Russian, not everyone understands well. Although Ukrainian has also become much worse. The generation of debs has grown..
      3. Sadam
        Sadam 21 March 2022 16: 50
        +4
        I'm afraid it's for years. The military component will end somewhere with the still incomprehensible Reichstag. And the economic war of starvation and the reshaping of the world is for a long time. The feeling that someone's empire will cease to exist ...
  2. January
    January 21 March 2022 13: 50
    +40
    Wrong question. Odessa, as well as the whole of Ukraine, does not know what to expect. We don't seem to know ourselves. What will happen after "denazification and demilitarization"? New power? New country?
    GDP says "we are not going to change the government." What is not agreed? Disingenuous?
    And if the government remains the same, what awaits the people who now support Russia? What awaits the people who will now lower their weapons? The answer is obvious. Here they are all sitting...
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 21 March 2022 14: 01
      +10
      Quote: ian
      GDP says "we are not going to change the government." What is not agreed? Disingenuous?

      First of all, our government needs to decide what it really wants in the issue with Ukraine, I think they themselves do not know this. The authorities in Ukraine must definitely be changed, otherwise the same question will arise in a couple of years, and the people must be given confidence that the authorities. as usual, he won’t turn on the rear, although I sincerely don’t understand who to wag his ass in front of, maybe if they haven’t still been found on their money and property.
      1. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 21 March 2022 14: 16
        +8
        Quote: lis-ik
        The government in Ukraine definitely needs to be changed, otherwise the same question will arise in a couple of years.


        I wonder how realistic this is in the current situation, and with the zombie population. Well, let's say Zelensky leaves with the team by agreement, there will be elections ... and who will come? The Opposition Platform for Life does not have enough votes and authority to win the elections and install its president with the government, and in this situation the nationalists will win .... the same Poroshenko and the parties associated with him, so a vicious circle. And even if we somehow (temporarily push through) the HLE, then they will lose in the re-elections and everything will be repeated again.
    2. stariy
      stariy 21 March 2022 14: 08
      +8
      I accidentally burned Solzhenitsyn’s book in the oven, which is studied at school, I have a question after such books, will our children not need to be denacialized?
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 21 March 2022 14: 40
        +3
        Quote: stariy
        after such books, our children will not need to be denacialized?

        It is difficult to say something about books and denazification. And the Russian language will need to be taught ... yes
    3. Carat
      Carat 21 March 2022 14: 33
      -9
      Quote: ian
      GDP says "we are not going to change the government." What is not agreed? Disingenuous?


      Doesn't agree. Ukraine will remain if in the coming weeks it goes to fulfill all the conditions of the Russian Federation. But the fact is that Zelensky from across the ocean will not be allowed to make peace with Russia. So Ukraine will be part of the Russian Federation.
      1. January
        January 21 March 2022 14: 48
        +8
        Sorry, these are your thoughts. Based on them, the population of Ukraine will not spit on the oath and will not come out in support of the Russian Federation. But the words and deeds of the Russian authorities would strongly encourage people to do this.
        The government is silent. People are being killed.
        1. Carat
          Carat 21 March 2022 15: 02
          -7
          This is while people are being killed on the streets, the population is silent. And when will the military police take control of the cities? When they don’t kill for the pro-Russian slogan, then the opinion will change. Especially those with whom the Nazis are now hiding behind. Also, the slow advance of Russian troops has a strong effect, and fakes contribute to this.
          1. January
            January 21 March 2022 15: 09
            +17
            You are speaking in the future tense. "They will take it, they will" .... Sorry, while this is fantasy.
            In the meantime, "ensigns" are hanging in the towns located in the deep rear, the territorial defense is sitting, and the city administration begins the day with "glory to Ukraine."
            This is reality.
            1. Carat
              Carat 21 March 2022 15: 12
              -5
              Quote: ian
              You are speaking in the future tense. "They will take it, they will" .... Sorry, while this is fantasy.


              And you wanted chtol denazification one day passed? February 24th?
              No, this is not a matter of one month.
              1. January
                January 21 March 2022 16: 21
                +6
                I'm talking about facts and realities. And you challenge them with plans for the future.
      2. Adrey
        Adrey 21 March 2022 15: 15
        +5
        Quote: Carat
        Ukraine will remain if in the coming weeks it goes to fulfill all the conditions of the Russian Federation.

        In the coming days, the spring thaw will come. In the coming weeks, the flood of rivers. There, every stream will have to be crossed by an adult.
      3. Sergei Fonov
        Sergei Fonov 25 March 2022 18: 48
        +1
        There can be no denazification without changing the structure of the current government.
    4. Chervony Biker
      21 March 2022 16: 35
      +4
      In vain you are so ... In particular, the expectations will certainly differ. But the main thing is what the MOST wants. This is a peaceful and well-fed life. Or not? National Roguli, could not give my fellow countrymen, not the first nor the second.
      1. January
        January 21 March 2022 16: 50
        +9
        Most of our fellow countrymen lost this "peaceful well-fed life" 3 weeks ago. Perhaps they didn’t consider her like that then, but now they have something to compare with. Moreover, Russia brought the war, but for the sake of which it still has not explained .....
        And the fact that most of the light bulb "who is the king" is understandable.
  3. Valter1364
    Valter1364 21 March 2022 13: 52
    +4
    I heard a long time ago that Odessa was never Soviet, let alone Ukrainian. Several decades have passed since then. It is necessary to take Odessa, there are no options here! So let's see what they will meet us there.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 21 March 2022 14: 14
      +5
      Quote: Valter1364
      So let's see what they will meet us there.

      It is better not to look, but to know ... recourse
    2. Chervony Biker
      21 March 2022 16: 42
      +11
      Ukrainian, Odessa was to the same extent as Russian, Moldavian, Jewish, Greek, Serbian and even German. The whole South of the Empire was like that. And so, the Galician-rogulye (please do not confuse with many of the most beautiful people living in western Ukraine), not understanding anything in state building, decided to black out with their flawed ideology the territories that they only saw on maps. Well, you can see for yourself what we have from this. By the way, ROGUL, this is a synonym for our Odessa Redneck.
  4. igorra
    igorra 21 March 2022 14: 05
    +2
    Russian cities must be returned home.
  5. kind
    kind 21 March 2022 14: 11
    +9
    The real Odessa is the people who were burned in the house of trade unions. Let's see if there are still real Odessans left.
  6. Cowbra
    Cowbra 21 March 2022 14: 13
    +6
    He is a stranger to them. Odessa is a foreground for them.

    Fuck here to think. It is Mariupol No. 2, no questions asked. This is what the city is preparing for. The Nazibats already there twice gathered people like for evacuation - and undermined - who are they to them? Citizens of Ukraine? Their whole Ukraine is limited to a village in the Carpathians, if not a garden of cherry huts.
    1. January
      January 21 March 2022 14: 42
      +9
      Quote: Cowbra
      He is a stranger to them. Odessa is a foreground for them.

      Fuck here to think. It is Mariupol No. 2, no questions asked. This is what the city is preparing for. The Nazibats already there twice gathered people like for evacuation - and undermined - who are they to them? Citizens of Ukraine? Their whole Ukraine is limited to a village in the Carpathians, if not a garden of cherry huts.

      And what, Aydar consists of Westerners?
      Please tell me at least one national battalion created and formed west of Dnepropetrovsk. Or do you have a wedge converged in western Ukraine?
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 21 March 2022 15: 10
        +1
        And they base on the Ragulskaya gvara. Attacks, yes, everyone was formed in Dnepropetrovsk - who formed it? Whose money? Dali Raguli or Kolomoisky and Firtash? That's just ragul from the fact that he was hired in Dnepropetrovsk - has not ceased to be clinical "what are we for?" Galya from Leningradka - is she like a Muscovite now too?
        1. January
          January 21 March 2022 16: 16
          +10
          On the "Rahulskaya Gvara" (although there is no such thing. If it's about "Lvivskaya Gvara" - then this is Polish jargon of the early 20th century, inquire.) Now all of Ukraine is "buzzing", it is fashionable and has been implanted for many years. 90% of Kyiv spoke Russian 20 years ago. Now 10% of strength. The rest is a fierce surzhik and, as you put it, "gvara". Where did these people go? Did you fly into space? They were "Ukrainized". And Galya from Leningrad, according to your logic, is just a Muscovite. Once I learned the "maskovsky" accent. Aidar, Dnieper, Donetsk, Azov were formed on the basis of terbats at the place of residence. And the backbone of them was, and to a greater extent now they are all the same people, they have not gone away. Or did they then "realize" and quit and hired stupid Lviv residents in their place? Agree, sounds crazy...
          And your "zapadentsy are to blame for everything," sorry, shifting responsibility. "These are not ours, these are theirs. They are enemies and non-humans, and we are Russian people here and we can’t do such a thing ...... Something like this ....
    2. Chervony Biker
      21 March 2022 16: 45
      +5
      With my mind, of course, I understand that you may turn out to be very right ... But I can’t accept this with my soul.
      1. Asad
        Asad 22 March 2022 19: 17
        +1
        Spare the civilian population, and do not stand on ceremony with the militants! How do you imagine when some keep others in the same building?
        1. Chervony Biker
          22 March 2022 22: 31
          0
          It's probably hard to comment now. But the bitterness of the war will untie the hands of both sides. If the militant hides behind someone's mother or children. It can be assumed that this rascal also has relatives. .. Or do you think that this is WRONG?
  7. tatra
    tatra 21 March 2022 14: 15
    -9
    And the enemies of the communists, even the history of their country does not teach anything. That's what the Red Army and the Chekists were strong for, but even for 10 years after the Great Patriotic War they could not destroy the Bandera offspring that killed Soviet citizens.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 21 March 2022 14: 44
      +6
      Quote: tatra
      but even for 10 years after the Great Patriotic War they could not

      Here you need to answer the question of how these Bandera people could survive and survive ... Surely, with the help of these enemies of the communists with party cards of members of the CPSU in their pockets ...
    2. Chervony Biker
      21 March 2022 16: 48
      +6
      I don’t understand at all why you were given minuses. In general, you wrote correctly. But the problem was not that they "couldn't". First, a methodology was chosen. Once picked up, the process went very cheerfully. And then, just under Khrushchev, they didn’t let them finish it off.
  8. Andrey563S
    Andrey563S 21 March 2022 14: 27
    +3
    In 2014 I had to take...
    Now a generation of young banderlogs has grown up with whom it will not be easy.
    Zombification of the population and the destruction of indigenous Odessans over the past 8 years will complicate the operation to release.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 21 March 2022 14: 57
      +3
      generation of young banderlogs
      Sees himself living in England and Germany.
    2. Chervony Biker
      21 March 2022 16: 52
      +5
      Don't exaggerate the colors. The contingent that you wrote about is being reforged in a week with the help of two "morgensterns", one "jijo" and five "danmilohins" who will broadcast, squeal and sing the NECESSARY words. I hope the allegory is clear?
      1. frog
        frog 21 March 2022 22: 12
        +1
        It remains to find them. For 20 years, there has not yet been found ....
        1. Chervony Biker
          23 March 2022 17: 38
          0
          no one was found to find them. .. But now there are no options. Games and persuasion are over. After the Victory on the battlefields. It is necessary to win both in the "refrigerator" and in the "TV"
  9. archiroll
    archiroll 21 March 2022 14: 29
    -2
    Pay in rubles at the Argo restaurant...
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 21 March 2022 14: 29
    +1
    As the main part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is defeated, the mood will change.
    It is clear that there will be no untouched parts of the former Kukuevskaya ...
  11. Andrey563S
    Andrey563S 21 March 2022 14: 32
    -2
    I think the special operation will last more than one year.
    Very big tasks and territory for work.
    1. January
      January 21 March 2022 14: 55
      +1
      Strongly unlikely. Now the line of defense, which was under construction for 8 years, is breaking down and personnel units and equipment are being destroyed. After squeezing the enemy into the bare steppe and the arrival of "mobilized" civilians to the war, the picture will quickly change. The main problem is cities.
      1. Asad
        Asad 22 March 2022 19: 20
        0
        This is the only problem. Well, the greenery will bloom, they have nothing to catch in the fields.
  12. gorenina91
    gorenina91 21 March 2022 14: 52
    -4
    Is Odessa waiting for us?

    - Yes, no one expected this from Odessa !!! - Damn - their Banderaites burned dozens of people alive - and they are ready to defend these Banderaites !!!
    - Well, okay ! - This Odessa still has a choice!
    - Personally, I feel very sorry for "Pushkin's Odessa" !!!
    - And "Bandera Odessa" - it's not a pity at all !!!
    1. Chervony Biker
      21 March 2022 16: 55
      +3
      How do you define "ready"? And even more so, how did you determine that "Odessians are ready"? In the sense of protecting Bandera.
      1. gorenina91
        gorenina91 21 March 2022 17: 14
        -3
        How do you define "ready"? And even more so, how did you determine that "Odessians are ready"? In the sense of protecting Bandera.

        - The question is addressed to me, or what? - I always quote from the text of that comment - to which I post my answer.
        - As for the inhabitants of Odessa, it's hard to believe that they could be so intimidated that they almost voluntarily went to prepare the city for "defense" - for the defense that should protect and defend the fascist regime! - Anti-tank hedgehogs, sandbags - these bags are stuffed by the so-called "civilians" - who voluntarily come and participate in all this!
        - I wonder what they will say then - how to make excuses - what to invent ??? - As usual - they will babble - that, they say - they were forced !!!
        - But Odessa should return to Russia !!! Otherwise, why release her?
        - Damn - how then will you have to "cleanse and launder" Odessa - from all this dirty state !!!
        1. Chervony Biker
          21 March 2022 17: 26
          +6
          I understand that you do not delve into the subtleties. But Ganul and Sternenko with Co. As if not Odessa at all. A picture of mass character will be easily created for you by crowds of students from western Ukraine who flooded city universities after 14 years. I have a neighbor in the yard in Odessa, who came from the Khmelnitsky region a dozen years ago, invites me, Odessa, to "blame Russia." But the funny thing is that my Ukrainian is an order of magnitude better than his surzhik. fool
  13. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 21 March 2022 15: 33
    +1
    These are all emotions .. waiting .. They will come, they will leave .. they will clean up the odious ones, Odessa is part of Ukraine .. Next?
  14. tank64rus
    tank64rus 21 March 2022 15: 36
    +1
    If people believe that there will be no return, and finally Mishka-Odessa returned to his native city forever, and he will definitely come and drop a rose on Deribasovskaya. Then Odessa will begin to return to life.
  15. Chervony Biker
    21 March 2022 17: 44
    +1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PJS7f0-Vmc&list=RD2PJS7f0-Vmc&start_radio=1
    Perhaps in Russia "YouTube" will not open ... But I recommend finding and listening to "CALL SIGN ODESSA" by I. Sivak and gr. "St. John's wort"
  16. maxim1987
    maxim1987 21 March 2022 18: 15
    0
    Quote: Valter1364
    I heard a long time ago that Odessa was never Soviet, let alone Ukrainian. Several decades have passed since then. It is necessary to take Odessa, there are no options here! So let's see what they will meet us there.

    so let it be IMPERIAL!!!!
  17. comradChe
    comradChe 21 March 2022 18: 17
    +5
    Calm estuaries, green chestnuts
    They will still hear the rustle of the unfurled banners,
    When it comes back gait minted
    In the beautiful Odessa tired battalion.
  18. k174oun7
    k174oun7 21 March 2022 18: 20
    +11
    Before a Russian soldier enters Odessa, there, as well as the rest of Ukraine (as well as the entire Russian Federation), intelligible words of our top military-political leadership about what Ukraine will become after that should come in. Verbosity with historical references will not help. The declared demilitarization and denazification mean nothing to the layman. It must be clearly stated that the Russian Empire and its allies - the army and navy come and stay forever, or for a very long time. All Nazis will be purged from all governments, up to the foreman of the janitors, and those who have particularly distinguished themselves will be in the appropriate places. The army will not be called the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. The monetary unit is the ruble and only. And then educational work following the example of Shurik from the movie "Operation Y" and other events. The most interesting thing is what kind of economy the Russian bourgeois state can offer to the Ukrainian former Nazi sub-state under the most severe sanctions. This information for reflection is interesting here and there.
    1. Mitia68
      Mitia68 23 March 2022 14: 13
      -1
      > The Russian Empire and its allies - the army and navy come and stay forever

      The simplest question is - will there be voting in this territory or not?
      If only because if you carry out accession on the model of Crimea, you first need to hold a referendum there.
      Do we have confidence that the local population will vote in such a referendum for reunification with Russia?
      Or will the reunification take place without any regard for the opinion of the local population?
      1. bratchanin3
        bratchanin3 27 March 2022 15: 07
        0
        And the local population is a gray mass with the mentality "my hut is on the edge." This is not Crimea!
        1. Mitia68
          Mitia68 28 March 2022 00: 47
          -1
          And what, on this basis, we will not ask their opinion?
          Shall we join simply by the decision of the State Duma at the "numerous requests of the workers"?
    2. Chervony Biker
      23 March 2022 17: 43
      0
      I completely agree with you. But... The situation is changing and heating up almost every day. Promising something today. We risk a long explanation and justification tomorrow. Pay attention. Given the development of events, about federalization, it is already possible not to mention. And that's where they started.
  19. Vlad69
    Vlad69 22 March 2022 10: 03
    +6
    Are they waiting for us? Here is an example from my family. My relatives are from the Odessa region (the border with the PMR, 60 km from Odessa). In varying degrees of zazombirovannost. And the cousin with her husband and children, well, "natural Bandera" if I may say so. The "process" was going on before my eyes. They sincerely hate Russia, although the Russians themselves do not deny this with regret. My sister's husband is already in the defense (he is 52 years old). They are not fools, they have a secondary technical education, it is difficult to call them Selyuks, although they live in the village. I haven't talked to them for a long time, which is for the best. To be honest, I'm not related to them for a long time. But for me it's not a tragedy. The abyss is too big, the bridge cannot be restored. About Kiev relatives, I think, it’s not worth talking about. "They are stealing the fatherland" already from the Czech Republic, it seems. I definitely don’t have relatives waiting for me there, but I was born there. I won't speak for everyone.
  20. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 22 March 2022 21: 31
    +3
    Quote: Ancestors from the Don
    Russia has come FOREVER

    If Russia has come forever - why the hell is she, Russia, conducting these shameful negotiations with the Zelensky gang? This drug addict who said today that Russian troops are robbing, raping and kidnapping children?
    And what should the inhabitants of Odessa and several tens of millions of other people who are waiting for us think, looking at all this? And how can they meet us, if it is not clear how long we will stay, and whether we will leave in a month, having signed some kind of "Minsk-3" with a drug addict and a war criminal? ............
  21. Watchdog
    Watchdog 23 March 2022 08: 56
    +1
    Nothing, we'll come soon, and it turns out that in Odessa there is a strong work of the pro-Russian underground. And not just Nazis. This is for anyone. Odessa is a hero city. In Kyiv, they have not understood yet - there is no more Ukraine. They just turn their soldiers into cannon fodder, trying to work out Grandpa Joe's order and get themselves a shelter with security in Europe. But sooner or later, two modest Russian guys will come to every shelter, two friends who love historical sights. And as today shows - there is not even a rescue in the bunker. So both in the toilet and in the toilet... Odessa is a great city. And he remembers everything. And the house of trade unions will not forget. And he won't forgive. So let them run before it's too late. Odessans are kind and cheerful people, but they do not know mercy for the enemy.
    1. Chervony Biker
      23 March 2022 17: 53
      0
      Nazis are not stupid either. A couple of weeks ago, in the south of the Odessa region, three hundred men came to sign up for "ter.oborona". Led by a local deputy, I note. Weapon means to get. And they are the local "Bandera Fuhrer" from the ATO officers. Put on taxiing by this noble process - twisted the fig. One for all. They mean, according to him, they are not patriotic enough. And some are even quite the opposite. Those. after release, the process should be mirrored and unavoidable. And this is not a settling of accounts, but JUSTICE. For example, in the city of Razdelnaya, not so long ago, the dearest people, the deputies, took care of the red star on the coat of arms of the town. And everyone voted FOR it to be removed. Except for one abstention. Little things, it would seem. But do you think these things can be forgiven?
      1. Watchdog
        Watchdog 26 March 2022 11: 31
        0
        As they like to say there - "lustration" ... Total. Did not pass - to Siberia. We need to raise factories. As the supreme leader said, there will be no occupation. Right. They do not occupy their territory.
  22. Mitia68
    Mitia68 23 March 2022 14: 08
    -2
    Fresh Odessa anecdote:

    - Fira, I don't speak Russian now!
    Why, Senya?
    - I'm afraid they will come to release ...
    1. bratchanin3
      bratchanin3 27 March 2022 15: 01
      0
      We will come, we will definitely come, and not because the Jews speak Russian, but because the Russians founded and built this city, because they were clearing the Nazis from the Patriotic War even now, because the Jews did not resist the Nazis in 2014.
      1. Mitia68
        Mitia68 28 March 2022 01: 13
        -1
        This is good.
  23. Zmeevik
    Zmeevik 24 March 2022 14: 30
    0
    The city is a pity, I was born and raised there. Well, these bastards, before they run away, they will try to spoil as much as possible
  24. Shefango
    Shefango 24 March 2022 17: 00
    +1
    Yura Podolyaka touches me. His summaries are something. I analyzed all his videos, where is the map of the front. And so: it practically does not change. There is a slow bloody displacement, there is a loss of time, and a meager pace of the offensive, which allows the West and the Ukrainian junta to maneuver militarily and politically. More and more reeks of a clash with NATO to some extent. And here the prospects become the most gloomy. Under his next bravura report dated 24.03.2022/20/XNUMX, I left a post in which, as a former military man who served for more than XNUMX years in far from rear units, I described my vision of the situation. Starting with the fact that if the media began to talk about mass heroism, this is an ass. This has been known since WWII. Heroism is the correction of the mistakes of command, its underestimation of the enemy and his potential. All these shows on TV, where well-fed uncles and aunts passionately discuss what to do with Ukraine after the victory - they don’t know anything about its price, and to me personally - they are disgusting. No matter how brainwashed a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is, he is a Slav. He is genetically Russian and will fight to the end. Yours or your opponent's. And not to understand and not to take this into account is simply criminal. And apparently this was not taken into account. Judging by our reports, all ukrov aviation has been destroyed, but our pvoshniks courageously repulse their raids. According to reports, more tanks have already been destroyed than before the start of the NWO. But here their mech groups ride and counterattack. Ammunition is about to run out - and our BDK in Berdyansk is sinking to the bottom. And for Podlyaka - "a couple more days - and that's it ...", "the front essentially fell down (and more than once) ..." from issue to issue, "the accumulation of the forces of the Russian Federation is underway, and in the coming days the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine collapse..." Can someone from the country's leadership really assess the situation? Tell people what to expect? Knowing the truth, even the saddest one, you can endure any difficulties and hardships. And here? We seem to have won (in the Ukrainian manner), but in the "Crossroads" just now the pensioners staged a fight for salt and sugar. In people, just cognitive dissonance comes with all the consequences. Personally, I begin to form the conviction that by the summer - NOTHING will be decided at such a pace, and there is sorely not enough time to achieve the goals of the NWO. He is no more. Time trouble, in the language of chess players.
    1. Sergei Fonov
      Sergei Fonov 25 March 2022 19: 04
      0
      There is an operation with a limited military contingent, if you get into urban battles, then you need more people, and most importantly, there will be big losses, we are fighting with technical means of defeating l / composition, and I agree that the terms are increasing somewhere, but as for me, it’s better a month later but with less loss.
    2. Chervony Biker
      26 March 2022 13: 54
      0
      Totally agree with you. Yuri Podolyaka, of course, is still far from the bottom of the propaganda coming out. But he is sure to go there. I call my friends all over Ukraine and get information. Time still works not for Ukraine, but for Russia. The help of the West does not even close to compensate for the necessary exertion of forces. But on the other hand, the decision to increase it can be made instantly. And one more thing... There is actually no mobilization in Ukraine. Of my acquaintances and acquaintances of acquaintances in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, no one was taken anywhere at all this month. This has both positive and negative sides. It is clear that from the "trench at the computer" it is difficult to see the whole picture. . .
  25. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 26 March 2022 08: 54
    0
    I think that Odessans are not the kind of people who, in their mass, can be intimidated or deceived, and the rest of the riffraff will either fade away or disappear at the barricades and caches, this has happened more than once. It’s a pity that the unique Odessa architecture may perish, and the remake will no longer be the same Odessa. But I really hope that hereditary Odessa citizens will keep their unique city!
    1. Chervony Biker
      26 March 2022 14: 01
      +1
      Hello. I hasten to disappoint you. "Remake" Odessa has already been mutilated. And it is the owners of these "remakes" who will cling to the city to the last. "Shushara", which has been abundant in Odessa for the last 8 years, will surely fade and perish. But he will try to fight away from his villages and towns. Is there an underground in Odessa, and will it show itself? I really hope.
  26. Chervony Biker
    26 March 2022 14: 10
    0
    A decision, perhaps not a humane one, but a creative one, must be made.
    As you know, among those who want to drown Odessa in blood and leave no stone unturned, there are negligibly few Odessans by birth. Therefore ... It would be nice to bring all these "Varangians" caught or bagged in Odessa streets in advance. What exactly to their "small homelands" will apply the "least favored nation" regime. It smacks of course not of the 21st century, but of the times of Bogdan Zinovy. But otherwise they may not understand.
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 26 March 2022 19: 00
      0
      HM. It would be interesting to look at at least one inhabitant of Odessa - stinging to drown in blood ... No, you can call that abomination Odessans, taxiing on May 2 ... And even Carlson, who rode in the trunk of a Cop's car, well, Misha the foundling. Just like me - a ballerina