Eastern Poland as a reserve of Ukrainian nationalism

Few know that the reserve of Ukrainian nationalism should be considered, along with Western Ukraine, and Eastern Poland. We are talking about Ukrainians living in the subcarpathian voivodeships of Poland, along the border with Ukraine. Most of them are militant preachers of Neo-Bandera ideology, descendants of the militants of the OUN-UPA ... In Przemysl there is a local branch of the Union of Ukrainians in Poland, which is supported by the Polish state. And here the fun begins ...

It would seem that Warsaw cannot have anything in common with the admirers of Bandera and Shukhevych. The regular killings of Polish government and military leaders (Bronislav Peratsky, Karol Sverchevsky, and others), the Volyn Massacre 1943 of the year, and many other events should not give rise to close cooperation between the Neo-Banderas and the Polish authorities. In fact, everything is more complicated.

The Union of Ukrainians in Poland receives annual assistance in the amount of 2 million zlotys from the Polish government. Another part of the finances comes from the Ukrainian diaspora of Canada and Lviv authorities. It should be noted that the Peremyshl branch of the Union of Ukrainians of Poland is connected with Lviv by warm friendly relations, and it makes sense to talk about the spread of Ukrainian national ideology outside Ukraine, to the eastern regions of Poland.

Subcarpathian Ukrainians compensate for their small number with radicalism. Receiving money from the Polish budget, they regularly hold ceremonial events at the graves of OUN-UPA militants and even arrange Neander’s marches through the streets of Przemysl accompanied by Polish police with flashing lights.

The Polish public is indignant, but the authorities are not paying attention to these indignations. They strive to strengthen the “buffer” between Poland and Russia, which they consider Ukraine to be in Warsaw. Money neobanderovtsam from the budget allocated and will be allocated. Moreover, the Union of Ukrainians in Poland is the guardianship of Yaroslav Kachinsky’s “Law and Justice” National Clerical Party, and the Civic Platform Party of Donald Tusk. Only the first do it openly and with loud anti-Russian aplomb, and the second - diplomatically and calmly.

Those Polish patriots who dared to criticize the Neanderís sabbath in Poland were immediately accused of Ukrainophobia. Having its own media without suffering from a lack of funds, the Union of Ukrainians in Poland promotes the idea of ​​turning Peremyshl into the center of Ukrainianness in Poland. Warsaw is still tolerant of such antics, keeping a balance between Polish state interests and the cultural-autonomist wishes of the Ukrainian nationalist public.

If economic ties with Brussels went to Poland in favor at the dawn of its accession to the EU, now Warsaw prefers not to join the euro zone, despite the prevalence of pro-Western views in the country. Too risky today in all things to go for Brussels.

At the same time, Poland is interesting to Europe to a certain extent. For example, Germany, a significant share in the economic prosperity of which is exported, considers Poland as a convenient market for its goods. A halt or a significant reduction in German exports will hit the German economy painfully. German capital is firmly established in Poland, is not going to leave. To provide a friendly information background for Berlin, major Polish newspapers were bought by German owners. So, in the hands of the Germans is “Rzeczpospolita” - one of the most famous daily newspapers in Poland with the circulation of 160 000 copies.

Not entirely correct, according to media reports, foreign banks behave in Poland (Austrian Raiffeisen, Italian UniCredito, etc.), pumping about $ 1 billion from Poland annually

The dissatisfaction of the Polish society with the actions of Brussels to limit the rights and opportunities of EU novices was expressed in the support provided by the Poles to the Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who steadfastly resists the dictates of European officials. In March, 2012 was among several tens of thousands of demonstrators who celebrated the next anniversary of the 1848 Revolution for independence on the streets of Budapest. There were several thousand Poles who came to express support for Victor Orban’s reforms. “Viva, Orban!”, “Lord, bless Hungary!” - Poles carried banners with such slogans in their hands. Needless to say, the visit of several thousand Poles to Budapest in order to express support for the premier of the neighboring state for its intransigence in the dialogue with the European Union did not receive proper coverage in the Polish media. This demarche of the Poles was presented as a trick of a small group of right-wing radicals, marginals, whose position does not reflect the views of Polish society as a whole. Not noticing the Neander radicals in the Subcarpathian region, Warsaw counts among the radicals Polish citizens who expressed support for Viktor Orban.

Even today, the patriotic Polish intelligentsia is thinking about what the claims put forward by the Ukrainian nationalists in Poland towards the Polish state can evolve. For example, the Peremyshl branch of the Union of Ukrainians in Poland claims to be part of Catholic churches with the aim of converting them into Greek Catholic (Uniate). Przemysl had already seen the capture of the Catholic churches by the Uniates, followed by a long Uniate-Catholic confrontation, encompassing a significant mass of the population. The Poles tried to oust the Uniates, the Uniates did not allow the Poles. As a result, part of the temples remained for the Catholics, and some - for the Uniates. The uniates who did not succeed in capturing Catholic churches still continue to consider their own.

The indulgence of the pro-fascist organizations operating in both Ukraine and Poland will not bring them any good. This is understood by many in Poland and in Ukraine. Perhaps the need for a constructive Polish-Ukrainian-Russian dialogue has ripened, where by "Ukrainian" one should understand not the Ukrainianship of the West-Ukrainian way of striking, but healthy patriotic forces refusing to put up with the banderization of their own country?

Famous Russian geopolitics I.I. Dusinsky in his work "The main issues of Russian foreign policy in connection with the program of our naval policy" (Odessa, 1910) noted that "Ukrainians, as long as they want to remain so and reject their identity with the Russian people, are for the latter, in fact , much more sworn and dangerous enemies than the Poles (highlighted by me - VG). From this it is clear that we must come to an agreement with the Poles regarding the Ukrainians. By virtue of this agreement, we can provide the Poles with respect to the Ukrainians the utmost freedom of action, we can completely give them to be eaten by the Poles, without being outraged at all if the latter begin to oppress them, and not at all upset by the Polish successes in this national struggle ... Instead, the Austrian Poles should national rights of the old Russian party Galich and stop the fight against its representatives .... “the Ukrainian nation” fabricated by special order promises, if it stands, to bring no less harm to the Poles themselves than even to us, and can be of great benefit only to the Germans, who openly support Mazepians with subsidies from Berlin (allocated by me. - V.G.) ” .

At the time of I.Dusinsky, “Ukrainian” meant not so much national as political affiliation. Something akin to a profession demanded by employers from Vienna and Berlin. There is no longer Austria-Hungary and no Austrian Poles, but there is Ukrainians, which are still contained in foreign subsidies.

Is not Poland better, indeed, to recall the Old Russian stories Subcarpathians, and Peresmysl in particular? After all, once Peremyshl was the center of not Ukrainian, but Carpatho-Russian culture. Like today's Ukrainians, the Carpathorossians also constituted a minority in the province, but a very active minority, it was the western bastion of the Russian world. Roman Mirovich, Claudia Aleksevich, Iosif Levitsky, Iosif Lozinsky, Kirill Cherlyunchakevich, Nikolai Antonevich - these and many other Galician Russophiles lived and worked in Peremyshl. K. Cherlyunchakevich and N. Antonevich were also buried there. Many of them went through torture and bullying in the Austrian torture chambers. A native of those lands and the most famous Soviet Galician Russophile - Ukrainian writer Yaroslav Galan, who died at the hands of Bandera in 1949 year.

Unfortunately, the memory of them is erased not without the efforts of organizations such as the Union of Ukrainians in Poland, who brazenly appropriated the history of Peremyshl, a city that was once the capital of Chervonnaya Rus. Being the conductor of the most radical version of Ukrainians, the Union of Ukrainians in Poland is intolerant of everything that questions the legitimacy of its claims to the history of Subcarpathia.

Comments

[Sasha 19871987]

this is not a reserve, but a nursery of cods, forgive me moderators ... good morning to everyone and a good day, for Friday, the weekend is ahead))

[gregor6549]

I would not rush about klikuhi like "reserve", "hotbed", etc. Western Ukraine and Ukraine, the rest are two big differences. It would be useful for those who juggle words to visit, say, the central regions of Ukraine and then ride through the western including in Lviv, Ivano Frankovsk, go to their local history museums and Catholic churches, talk with old people and try to understand why the "Bandera" movement in Western Ukraine was the same as it was with all its cruelty and great blood and began to decline only at the beginning 50s and only after the announcement of the amnesty. Prior to that, no punitive operations of the NKVD troops could bring this movement to its knees. Those. not everything is so simple with these hotbeds, and there and in Western Belarus, where the Catholic faith is very strong to this day. As Zhvanetsky says, "you need to be more careful, guys." These and similar problems should be tried to be solved by therapeutic methods, not surgical ones ... from the air.

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gregor6549
So no one calls for surgery, especially missile and bomb. The author just says that the disease must be treated.
And speaking of radical nationalist organizations of a pro-fascist nature, what terms do you propose to use - the focus of a distinctive culture? It’s somehow difficult to talk about this, using non-medical terms that characterize infectious diseases ... and if you remember how much effort the Austro-Hungarian General Staff put in the emergence of this disease, and then the Nazi secret services ......

[andrei332809]

everything is correct, only the perpetrators must be sought in England. they always encouraged nationalism on the outskirts of Russia, although at the same moment the Irish themselves were gondolas. all the roots of evil must be sought from the paddles and the Britons. and yesterday, the substitute for Stroskan (I don’t know exactly how to spell correctly, let there be lagard) said that Russia was behaving incorrectly, accumulating denyuzhku. and so, they say, have accumulated a lot, that's enough for you.

[volcano]

Well, again, the question of western Ukraine ......
Dear Colleagues .... it is necessary to clearly understand that for many centuries western Ukraine had close relations with Poland, and not with Russia, which affected the interpenetration of both culture and religious component, as well as political views .... This is where it comes from dislike and hatred of Russia, because it’s the position of Poland itself .... the west feels itself Poland ... well, or let's just say .. Commonwealth ...
In the east of Ukraine, which, in principle, was not torn from Russia and ties with each other are strong, everything is not so ...
One should be surprised that the memory of Russia treats this way exactly as much as one can be surprised (or not) with the Russians in Poland.

[Nick]

Quote: volkan

western Ukraine for many centuries had close relations with Poland, and not with Russia,

And this did not prevent the same Western Ukrainian Bandera, etc., from organizing mass killings of Poles and conducting ethnic cleansing on the territory of the memory, against the Polish population.

[Cashpoint]

“From this it is clear that we must come to an agreement with the Poles regarding the Ukrainians. By virtue of this agreement, we can give the Poles complete freedom of action with respect to the Ukrainians, we can completely give them up to be devoured by the Poles, not in the least indignant if the latter begin to oppress them, and not at all not distressed by the Polish successes in this national struggle ... "

This "well-known" geopolitician did not consider that the Poles and the Ukrainians could come to such an agreement. Poles have always despised Russians, Ukrainians, after such articles, begin to despise more and more, and not only in the West and the CENTER (they do not like Russians very much there either), but more and more in the East, when they see how the Russians still cannot add up their price ... As for the activities of Ukrainians in the East of Poland, it is no different from the activities of Russians in Crimea ...

[sas]

Oh damn, I can't, "Carpathian-Russian culture"! The author himself understood what he wrote ?! Not tired of feeding on such insanities?

[biglow]

sas,
the word Rusyns is saying something. Raw-Russian historical name

[dark_65]

Imagine a large house inhabited by many people, and now there is one neighbor, unlike the others, who categorically does not fit into the standards of the housing committee, and he is large himself, and is too simple in communication, and seems to make money, and his life sometimes beats, but does not look like "hamsters", from neighboring apartments. They treat him with apprehension, with distrust, though they will always drop in for a drink, a snack, but they will spit in the back if they turn up ...
That such a neighbor is Russia, both for the West and for the East.
We are incomprehensible to them, but everything incomprehensible scares ..

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dark_65
Tell me, it’s they who, out of fear, used to go on excursions to come to us ... united in a crowd .... with a frequency of 1-2 times per century? Al from unbearable humanism?

[DeamonFIre]

A few people will say something different for deny of foreign intelligence services ... but do not equate everyone under the minority.

[Prosto vovochka]

As they say in the south of Russia - in Odessa: - "The West and the East of Ukraine are two big differences."

[v53993]

"-" The West and the East of Ukraine are two big differences "- one in w ... e, the other in ze ... tse. But in fact, the West of Ukraine needs the West of Europe as the Baltic under Gorbachev. But those days have passed and the Baltic has already no one needs it, if only as a springboard.Western Ukraine is also used in a one-time manner.
It will be good to the rulers. But Ukrainians will be sad as the Baltic states today.
I won’t be surprised if a new (regular) B. Khmelnitsky of the 21st century appears in the near future.

[gregor6549]

In all such and very delicate matters, the least of all is to ask the question "who is to blame?", And more concerned with the question "what to do?", And to do so that the question of who is to blame does not arise again and again.

[v53993]

I agree with you. But when there are inextricable ties between nations, it is stupid and dangerous to be guided by the incomprehension of our leaders among themselves. Our world is our strength and the foundation of the future world of our children.
These are puppeteers who live for money, and we need to build a world for our children.

[Stasi.]

The Poles in their Russophobic passions obviously played up, warmed Bandera’s infirmities, executioners of both ordinary Ukrainians and Poles. And they begin to make complaints: at first the temples are taken from the Catholics, and there you look - and Przemysl will be demanded as part of Ukraine. But the Poles don’t give a damn about all this, because all these people are not Bandera, but national heroes who fought the Bolsheviks and now resist Moscow’s imperial ambitions.

[v53993]

Started for health, and finished for ...

[REPA1963]

And the names of the Russophiles are all such Russian, Levitsky, Lozinsky, Antonevich, etc.

[v53993]

Everything is correct. But can you talk about all sorts of rubbish on Friday night?

[Nick]

Quote: REPA1963

And the names of the Russophiles are all such Russian, Levitsky, Lozinsky, Antonevich, etc.

The Russians were the Raevsky, the Engelhard, the Lermontov, the Dali, the Belinshausen, the Bering, the Kolchak, the Yudenich, the Yusupov identity, and not just the Petrov, Ivanov, and Sidorov. The concept of Russian World is much broader than the concept of Rusak. So, your hints are not hints ....

[Hedgehog]

The games of nationalism are back in topic. Oh well.
Let's play it out!
One day, all these extremists and tolerasts (nothing more than the apparent struggle of opposites) will achieve their goal, and we will be happy to start gnawing each other's throats: some under national slogans, others under cosmopolitan ones! And all this will happen only to the delight of those who will run into this again! And all this will certainly happen, unless we have stepped on the throat without the measure of the hatched husk that we are so eager to pit us together and put in place an elementary order, for a start, in our own heads, and as an inevitable consequence - in our own country!
It’s time to ...

[gregor6549]

Dear Hedgehog,
These games did not begin with "tolerasts" and "demokrushniki", but began long before them, when the countries of Europe were cut and reshaped up and down. As for modern cutting and sewing exercises, Stalin and his followers in the field of national politics made a significant contribution to this cutting. For example, Stalin gave Abkhazia to Georgia and created problems for both of them for many years. The same applies to Western Ukrainians, Western Belarus, the Baltic States, Finland, Bessarabia, etc. Of course, all these "voluntary" accessions can be justified by high goals and the vital necessity for the USSR to do just that, and not otherwise in those days. But at the same time, it must be understood that not all affiliated ones will love the joiners and their descendants as a brother. So it turns out that in many cases, instead of good or, at worst, just tolerant neighbors, both intolerant and bad are obtained. And only the neighbors would be fine. And then after all, and internal cancerous tumors, which cannot be excised or cured. Therefore, the only way out is to take care of sick "organisms" to give painkillers from time to time, but in no way try to treat them with home-grown and hasty recipes. It only causes relapses of the disease. sometimes fatal to both doctors and patients. Remember how they treated Chechnya / They killed a lot of Russians (and who lived there, and who were sent to "treat"), and as a result, Chechnya is ruled by a former bandit and a thief who continues to plunder Russia and how any thief should (at least) sit in prison, as Captain Zheglov correctly noted. but as a maximum to rot in the "brilliant green" At least some benefit would be ... "brilliant green". T. Yanukovych also seems to belong to this class of thieves, And also, instead of being in prison, he rules Ukraine. Examples can be continued indefinitely, but the conclusion is one. While bandits and thieves are in power, the policy of this country, including national policy, cannot be otherwise than thieves 'and bandits' by definition