The head of Chechnya spoke about the operation to break through the encirclement, in which the Russian special forces unit ended up in Mariupol

The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, commented on certain difficulties that arose during the liberation of Mariupol from the armed national battalions.

According to Kadyrov, the situation was complicated by the fact that in Mariupol, a unit of Russian special forces found itself surrounded by encirclement in the quarters of the city. It was cut off by militants from the main forces carrying out a cleansing operation in this large city.

The head of Chechnya noted that the militants, who had encircled the Russian special forces, offered them to lay down weapon and surrender, however, as Ramzan Kadyrov writes, the special forces, being surrounded for several days, fought until the encirclement was broken.

The head of Chechnya said that the operation to release the special forces unit was carried out in direct coordination with Supreme Commander Vladimir Putin.

As a result of the breakthrough of the encirclement in the quarters of Mariupol, the nationalist units suffered serious losses and were forced to hastily retreat to positions in other quarters of this city.

Ramzan Kadyrov pointed out that the special forces soldiers who held out, being surrounded, were personally thanked by State Duma deputy from the Chechen Republic Adam Delimkhanov. He personally participated in the coordination of the actions of the assault units.

Kadyrov:

Each fighter will be presented with an award.

Recall that over the past day, about 320 civilians were evacuated from Mariupol to the Rostov region.

The entry of a Russian special forces unit into the ring in the urban areas of Mariupol indicates that the Ukrainian national formations continue to coordinate actions among themselves - there is communication and operational control of actions in the city. Accordingly, there are at least power points. Such points can be ordinary car batteries. In this case, it will be difficult to do without disrupting the system of operational communication between the militants of the national battalions.

Comments

[S_Baykala]

Immortal: The Russians don't give up!

[Aerodrome]

The head of Chechnya said that the operation to release the special forces unit was carried out in direct coordination with Supreme Commander Vladimir Putin.

Well, this is too much ... it gives off some kind of "loyalty". helped the penaz to break through - well done, why is it so "with the help of GDP .." did he coordinate from the "copter"?

[Charik]

how many ways to coordinate online in our age of technology, I would call one joking, but at the moment there is no time for fun

[mikh-korsakov]

Agree. When I read the article, the phrase "under wise guidance" was spinning in my head. Not what it is!

[Alexander Salenko]

I don’t know why they downvoted, but you understand, this is the east. We have the same Crimean Tatars, this is not good, not bad, but a given. With our mentality, it’s hard to accept this, but for them it’s normal.

[anclevalico]

Well, where without GDP? It wouldn't have been possible without him. Some kindergarten.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Aerodrome

with the help of GDP .. "did he coordinate from the" copter "?

What's there to be surprised? In what hypostases was he not? Was he in the role of a foreman-developer, when he looked after rogue builders on video? Was ! Did you divide the cement plant between the local lads? Delil! Did you regulate traffic on the Kuznetsk bridge for a traffic cop? Didn't regulate! Did not have time ! And so ... Why can’t he command the special forces now, according to the vidos? "Kings can do anything!...." (A. Pugacheva)

[28st region]

The last paragraph for those who have electronic warfare omnipotent

[NetKeys]

It's not good, somehow in a European way, daippatso to one word inside a completely different thought, and start spinning it like the main one. Wow, below what promotion began. People are very, very prone to sophism.

[man]

did he coordinate from the "copter"?
directed from mobile

[tank64rus]

He could only say one thing: "Russians do not abandon their own." It's like Stalin's one word, which could decide the fate of an entire military operation.

[January]

Ordinary oriental curtsies. "illumined by the radiance of the wisdom of the brightest ...."
Yesterday I watched Khodakovsky's interview about the Chechen "special forces". How they lined up in a column at the checkpoint and "all so beautiful" on tigers were about to enter the city. Barely answered. And how they rushed around the city on the Typhoon like in Moscow at weddings. Until they were caught somewhere and they had to arrange an urgent operation to rescue the "three hundred" from a broken KAMAZ .....
I'm what. Isn't that "special forces"?

[datur]

east is like that

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: S_Baykala

Immortal: The Russians don't give up!

That's for sure !!!! In the full commentary there is his words that among the Russian special forces soldiers who were surrounded, there were also CHECHEN fighters. The special forces were released and left the battle without loss.

[Giant thought]

The most important thing is that our fighters were helped to get out of the encirclement, this is primary. And who was driving in this situation, this is secondary. Another confirmation that ours do not abandon their own.

[fif21]

Quote: Thought Giant

The most important thing is that our fighters were helped to get out of the encirclement, this is primary

I would like to thank the Chechen brothers. Thank you, take care of yourself.

[Alex Justice]

But what about the millions of Russian prisoners in the last war?

[Or me]

The entry of a Russian special forces unit into the ring in the city blocks of Mariupol indicates that the Ukrainian national formations continue to coordinate actions among themselves

Offensive, especially in urban areas, is the most difficult type of warfare. Defense under the same conditions is much more profitable. I believe that the features of defense are understandable to many - both knowledge of the terrain (moves, exits), and many years of creating firing points, mining approaches and much more. And the fact that the special forces completed their tasks with honor cannot but rejoice!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Elijah

and much more.

Plus the "human shields" used by the Nazis

[Egoza]

Quote: Seryoga64

Plus the "human shields" used by the Nazis

Militants of the Azov National Battalion blew up a theater building in Mariupol they had mined, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
Previously, it was known from refugees who had escaped from Mariupol that the Nazis of the Azov Battalion could hold civilians hostage in the theater building, using the upper floors as firing points.

[Seryoga64]

On the next branch they write that Kyiv is mined with anti-personnel mines

[Alexander Salenko]

I can argue about the knowledge of the area. Here the fighters retreated, well, let's say, to Rubizhnoye, and before that they saw a bus station there, for example, and a couple of streets. In my region, I know several cities quite well, and that is because it is connected with work, it is necessary to navigate. And several cities are not from the word at all. Well, for example, Armyansk, the last time I walked along it was 27 years ago, and 8 years ago I was only at the bus station. Although this city can be surpassed, I cannot say that I know it. Dzhankoy, I was there, in fact, only at the railway station. The cities are not named by chance, there is the same steppe.
If we take such agglomerations as Kharkiv or Kyiv, I know the latter, by the way, but I know the center. What does Vuyka know about Kyiv? Will he distinguish Obolon from Troeschina or Nyvok?

[saigon]

Come on, everything is complicated in the building line, it may be easier to defend, but this is already a subjective perception.

[olhon]

It's good that everything ended well.

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

APU nevertheless also deserve respect. They stand strong. Unfortunately, there was no quick victory. But victory will still be ours.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Unfortunately, there was no quick victory. But victory will still be ours.

This is not a war where it was possible to skate to the kueva.
This is a special operation. Cities are being squeezed out, followed by destruction. And this takes time

[Eliminator]

+ “if it were necessary, everything would have already been ground into dust and rags” (c)

[Charik]

it seems like we are talking about the national battalions, and not about the military

[Livonetc]

Quote: Charik

it seems like we are talking about the national battalions, and not about the military

After 14 years, the most zealous Nazis were sent to military schools.
Then their career went like clockwork.
It was they who were put in the first place in command positions.
We see the consequences now.
For example, in most of the locations of the units, Nazi paraphernalia and literature are hung and decomposed.
At the moment, there is only one criterion for a Nazi on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR.
- Subject wielding a weapon, resisting legitimate demands for demilitarization.
Such a subject is a Nazi and must be neutralized.

[Charik]

I understand that there are a lot of narkosh followers of the Nazis

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Charik

and there are a lot of narkosh followers of the fascists

Tellingly, from our office. reports, this division has practically disappeared, and now all units of the Reich's coming out are referred to as nationalist formations. Ghouls still jumped to total disposal, but, after all, someone had a chance ... Well, whoever did not hide is his problem.

[mva]

All national battalions have long been (about 8 years) part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[Andrey Kuligin]

whom do you respect in Mariupol? Nazis from Aidar or Azov? This is not the courage of the soldiers, this is the senseless delaying of the inevitable end by the last of the Bandera, hiding behind civilians ... There is no respect for them. there should be no mercy..

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Andrey Kuligin

whom do you respect in Mariupol?

But it is not said about the Nazis

APU nevertheless, they also deserve respect.

It is not the same

[Andrey Kuligin]

now it’s already the same thing, the national battalions are part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and all units are saturated with Bandera

[Seryoga64]

I haven't heard about it

[Metlik]

What is the same? Is a draftee after school and an inveterate Nazi one and the same thing? Are you preparing such denazification for us?

[sniperino]

Quote: Metlik

Is a draftee after school and an inveterate Nazi one and the same thing?

And I also thought before, until I was convinced that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were hiding behind the backs of the civilian population. The caller doesn't understand this? He understands perfectly. But why is he better than an inveterate Nazi?

[Metlik]

Quote: sniperino

The caller doesn't understand this? He understands perfectly. But why is he better than an inveterate Nazi?

There is a good Roman proverb - what can a soldier do when he receives an order? Not of their own free will, the rank and file join the army, not of their own free will they occupy those lines that they are ordered to occupy. Why is the company of hatred unleashed against the rank and file, and not those who give orders? Yes, because Putin is afraid that he will have to be responsible for the orders in the first place.

[sniperino]

Quote: Metlik

what can a soldier do when given an order?

Criminal order?

A person who has committed a deliberate crime in pursuance of a deliberately unlawful order or instruction is criminally liable on a common basis. Failure to comply with a deliberately unlawful order or instruction precludes criminal liability.

We have it. Did Putin order you to hide behind citizens?

[Metlik]

Soviet troops also defended cities, Stalingrad, for example, can you order the veterans of the Second World War to judge?

[sniperino]

Quote: Metlik

Soviet troops also defended the cities

Same, but not the same: Soviet troops did not kill residents trying to flee the city, evacuate, did not fire artillery from behind residential buildings with people and working hospitals, and did not blow them up to blame the Germans for this.

Quote: Metlik

maybe order the veterans of the Second World War to judge

I would have ordered that the Ukronazis be hanged publicly in their homeland, just like the Bandera people were hanged after the war.

[Metlik]

Quote: sniperino

Soviet troops did not kill residents trying to flee the city, evacuate, did not fire artillery from behind residential buildings with people and working hospitals, and did not blow them up to blame the Germans for this.

So far, this is just an accusation from your words. Where is the proof? If they are, why are they not shown on all channels 24/7?

And where did the refugees come from, if everything prevents them from leaving the cities? 10 million left for the west, apparently did not have time to shoot.

[Crete 25]

Do you believe it's not the same thing?

[Seryoga64]

Not anymore

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

I'm not talking about Mariupol and not about the national battalions, I'm talking about the Armed Forces of Ukraine in general! And you have to be a complete idiot not to understand this!
A quick victory about which the talk show hosts poured, alas, did not work out. The enemy, alas, puts up stubborn resistance. Of course, it will be suppressed over time, but the very fact that our side made a mistake with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Flooding]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

I'm not talking about Mariupol and not about the national battalions, I'm talking about the Armed Forces of Ukraine in general! And you have to be a complete idiot not to understand this!

you have to be a complete idiot to choose a place for a comment with a confession of respect for the Armed Forces of Ukraine under an article about the battles in Mariupol.
In which the Ukrainian Nazis dug in under cover of the civilian population.

And then to be surprised how stupid everyone around is and "you misunderstood me."

[Metlik]

Quote: Flood

choose a place for a comment with a recognition of respect for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

And where else to tell the truth about the fighting, if not at a military forum? Or do you want to turn a professional website into just another propaganda hype?

[Flooding]

Quote: Metlik

where else to tell the truth about the fighting, if not at a military forum?

the truth must be spoken everywhere
unfortunately not everywhere
and I'm not talking about Russia

and my comment was about the context in which words about respect for the Armed Forces of Ukraine were spoken

[Andrey Kuligin]

here, on the sly, they pour bile on our soldiers and the army and think that they are cunning and no one understands what their goal is ... The Russian army is honorably fulfilling its task, systematic combat work is underway aimed at the denazification of Ukraine, and at minimizing losses, including among the civilian population ... The issue could be resolved in a week by using the full range of available weapons ...

[Nafanya from the sofa]

Alas, the quick victory about which the talk show hosts were flooded did not work out

If ours had been used against the Natsiks of the ODAB, they would have won quickly. But it would be a Pyrrhic victory, because. there would be nothing left of the city. And so, "picking out" them "one by one" from light and small arms, risking their lives, our soldiers are trying to save the city and its inhabitants.

[Alexander Salenko]

Meaningful. Still to pull. This is criminal logic. Remember the famous movie about the Black Cat gang. They, the criminals, are aware that the khan is theirs, the tower, but to stretch out a couple of extra months, and they give up. And it is not clear how the front-line soldier who got in there did not postpone it.

[Murmur 55]

Aleksey Alexandrovich, the very ones who screwed up on rastrell are standing to the death of the stubborn, this is death anyway, but the other part of those who stand to death are afraid of the first, because in battle there is a chance to stay alive and the Nazis and the stubborn bang 100% and even and families can recoup.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Murmur 55

Alexey Alexandrovich, the very ones who heaped up on the rastrell are standing on the death of stoned

APU namely, he speaks about them, they did not rob anyone and did not kill civilians. They themselves hate the Nazis. About this article on VO was

[Murmur 55]

Seryoga 64, and according to the LDNR, only the Nazis finished off all 8? Didn't they finish off the personnel units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from artillery and mortars? And in Donetsk the other day, too, the Nazis and Ter. Baty Point-U let in?

[Seryoga64]

Yes, I'm WRONG

[Crete 25]

And they are all cooks, musicians and songwriters and thought that they were invited to a picnic to shoot at jars. In captivity, what you can’t weave so that they don’t beat hard, right?

[Seryoga64]

I already admitted I was wrong

[Alexander Salenko]

Who sent a point to Donetsk? I would issue an order in the image and likeness in honor of the death of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, not to take soldiers from this unit prisoner.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Valentina Salenko

I would issue an order in the image and likeness in honor of the death of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, not to take soldiers from this unit prisoner.

Yes, I'm WRONG

[Andrey VOV]

And in Donetsk, who hit the dot the day before yesterday? A regular military unit, namely the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who are they after that? You know, it smells like the SS robbed and killed during the war, and the Wehrmacht soldiers only fought with the army .. No, and again no

[Alexander Salenko]

On what families, what Nazis can recoup while sitting in the Mariupol cauldron? Let's pay tribute to the enemy, they themselves did not get their pants dirty and not under the threat of the Nazis. After all, their useless resistance is obvious, but they do not give up. And now there is a non-trivial task to make those who survive ours. It's very difficult, but possible.

[Disant]

Let's pay tribute to the enemy, they themselves did not get their pants dirty and not under the threat of the Nazis.

1. they got into the boiler. they can’t get out - it doesn’t matter if he is a Nazi or a simple soldier. that is, the color of the pants and their cleanliness are not important. you can't be bothered by them
2. there are locals in the houses. the whole city. in hostage. and the soldiers sit between them

[Piramidon]

Quote: Valentina Salenko

On what families, what Nazis can recoup while sitting in the Mariupol cauldron?

About 200 civilians remain in Mariupol. Here are some.

[Mikhalych 70]

Did not take it. I wanted to put my "five cents" in. Comrades, I want to raise the issue of Natsik families. Don't they know what father-brother-son does? Or only know about the activities of a relative on the news? And is he such a hero? Or, after all, dad-... sends heroic pictures against the backdrop of burned-out houses-schools-techniques, with a proud postscript, look what a dad is... a hero! And the whole village is touched by the stories of how "they gave away separators and wool", how they tormented the Buryat divers. Everyone knows everything. But. relate to folder-... activities, as to earnings. Nothing personal. Somewhere they are at war with abstract "separas", and somewhere they are kneading concrete and picking apples. Business.
I'm what. Shamil was captured, and in Kaluga and Kyiv (!!!) he lived with all his wives. Not a little sad. Koneno, Iosif Vissarionovich himself declared that the son is not responsible for the father, "but ... Isn't it worth taking a closer look at the members of the Natsik families? Moreover, Mr. Kadyrov claims that "They know all the addresses." If you remove the Bandera relatives from their homes and take, say, BAM to lay the second branch, mb, the Nazis will become more accommodating?

[private person]

Don't they know what father-brother-son does? Or only know about the activities of a relative on the news? And is he such a hero?

Yeah, and we send them humanitarian aid.

[Crete 25]

Frost on the skin from confessions of respect for the Nazis

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Can you read? I said about respect for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not for the Nazis! Are you saying that there is no one in the Armed Forces of Ukraine except Natsiks? There are the same normal people like you or me, but with different brains.
Even the soldiers of the Red Army drew a certain line between parts of the Wehrmacht and parts of the SS!

[Crete 25]

That is exactly what I want to say. In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, almost everyone is completely Nazis, and those who are not Nazis cannot but act on their orders, because they are afraid of the Nazis. Then stockholm syndrome, brainwashing and all that. So respect your Nazis further, no one has canceled freedom of speech, but you shouldn’t lie to yourself.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Can you read? I said about respect for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not for the Nazis! Are you saying that there is no one in the Armed Forces of Ukraine except Natsiks? There are the same normal people like you or me, but with different brains.
Even the soldiers of the Red Army drew a certain line between parts of the Wehrmacht and parts of the SS!

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

Even the soldiers of the Red Army drew a certain line between parts of the Wehrmacht and parts of the SS!

Some were not taken prisoner, while others were taken. That's the whole narrow line. So from here. You still praise Zelenukha, his courage and firmness. At the end of hostilities, military prosecutors will figure out who is a war criminal and who is a stupid fellow traveler of these Nazis.

[sniperino]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

I said about respect for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not for the Nazis!

If a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine holds your mother instead of a parapet and fires at you, will you be interested in his political views?

[Alexander Salenko]

I warned on various forums that Kharkov was not a Russian city in terms of population, there was an underestimation. It’s clear to me that the boys from the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not to blame for being born in Ukraine and they don’t know another Motherland, but they had to beat the barracks on the first day.

[Third district]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

APU nevertheless also deserve respect. They stand strong.

What respect and for what? For hiding behind the backs of women, children and the elderly. Marauders, rapists and murderers.

[sailor roman]

"Respect"? For what, for the murder of civilians, for children, who are covered as shields, executions and torture without trial or investigation? Are you completely headless or headless?

[isv000]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

APU nevertheless also deserve respect. They stand strong. Unfortunately, there was no quick victory. But victory will still be ours.

And what do you want - there are also Russian soldiers ...

[Andy_nsk]

It’s good that it ends well, but the situation in which a unit of the RF Armed Forces (the nationality of the fighters is not important) is surrounded is alarming, it seems to me that this indicates insufficiently good coordination of the actions of units and subunits. Minus command. I heard that the Chechens are forced to fight without fire support from artillery, tanks and aircraft, they do not have drones even for reconnaissance, not to mention the strike ones. All parts have trouble with drums. This means that during the sweep they will have to bear heavy losses. Why does this go unnoticed by commanders with big stars?

[Blade3]

,, Everyone fancies himself a strategist seeing the battle from the side,, (C)

[Seryoga64]

Quote from Andy_nsk

is surrounded,

This is a war and the environment of a small group does not say anything

[Seryoga64]

Quote from Andy_nsk

I heard that the Chechens are forced to fight without fire support from artillery, tanks and aircraft, they do not have drones even for reconnaissance, not to mention the strike ones.

Where are they brainwashed?

The head of Chechnya said that the operation to release the special forces unit was carried out in direct coordination with Supreme Commander Vladimir Putin.

[Andy_nsk]

where they brainwashed

I can tell you the same!

[Seryoga64]

Quote from Andy_nsk

I can tell you the same!

But I don’t like such propagandist Bandera nonsense

I heard that the Chechens are forced to fight without fire support from artillery, tanks and aircraft, they do not have drones even for reconnaissance, not to mention the strike ones.

[Andy_nsk]

But I don’t like such propagandist Bandera nonsense

And here the Bandera people, this is from the words of Khodakovsky, a direct participant in the events, as far as I understand, he is on our side.
I look here full of masters to throw hats on the enemy .. well, well, good luck to you in this hopeless business!

[aglet]

"The head of Chechnya said that the operation to release the special forces unit was carried out in direct coordination with Supreme Commander Vladimir Putin"
It turns out that long beards, purchased maroon berets, and yells - ahmad strength, do not help at all to fight against a real enemy. Chechens believed that the war is just a hooligan, as with the Russians. it didn’t work out, they sat down surrounded, and waited until Vanya released them. here, many believed that when the Chechens were taken to Ukraine, now it will be easier for ours, but it didn’t work out, now they’ll fight with Ukraine and save the Chechen "special forces". without them, for sure, it would be easier, and fewer medals would have to be stamped

[mikh-korsakov]

In fact, the truth is concrete. Judging by the fragmentary data. It was the support from the ships that allowed the Chechens to penetrate the territory of the Azovstal plant. Whether they are there now I do not know. In general, information support from our side looks unconvincing. Instead of qualified (I emphasize this word, not reports from the ground, but an analysis of events) information from the battlefield, there are endless stories about humanitarian convoys, as if we invaded Ukraine in order to feed the population with stew and get sanctions for it.

[Murmur 55]

Andy nsk, heard from whom??? Look how the Chechens are equipped in their ranks, I haven’t seen boys for 20 years and you think that they were sent without copters and other modern stray, oh well. The city is good for defense because it’s convenient to make ambushes and the Nazis will fight to the last, they won’t be taken prisoner, so you shouldn’t count on an easy walk.

[smart fellow]

I heard that the Chechens are forced to fight without fire support from artillery, tanks and aircraft, they do not have drones even for reconnaissance, not to mention the strike ones.

I heard that there are 2,5 thousand Chechen National Guards there, and everything that you have listed is not allowed for the National Guard and they are not trained in this. The National Guard of liberals has not yet dispersed tanks and bombed from aircraft and attack drones.

[Andy_nsk]

Murmur 55:

Andy nsk, heard from whom??? Look how the Chechens are equipped in their ranks, I haven’t seen boys for 20 years and you think that they were sent without copters and other modern stray, oh well

I watched an interview with Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion. He believes that the arrived Chechens are absolutely unprepared for the operation in Mariupol.

[smart fellow]

The question was asked to you by Murmur 55 (ALEXANDER).

[Vladimir 290]

Well, about "absolutely unprepared" you exaggerated somewhat. But in general, he said that the Chechens do not have the necessary weapons and means to work in the "first line", since they are the National Guard and, let's say, "combined arms combat", are simply not intended. They were preparing for other tasks. And the level of training and experience of the fighters is different.

[aglet]

"since they are the National Guard and for, let's say," combined arms combat ", they are simply not intended. They were preparing for other tasks"
that's it, it was precisely for the cleansing of the populace that they were preparing. but they didn’t prepare well, they grew beards, but somehow they don’t fight, it doesn’t work out

[vs45]

I also watched this interview, he clearly and competently put everything on the shelves .... in general, he always spoke reasonably about the war and hostilities, I remember his interview back in 2014 ..... that's probably why the guy did not achieve watered heights in the DPR .. ..but the commander is certainly competent !!! And the info support from the Ministry of Defense is simply Disgusting .... one thing is already ... that we don’t know exactly what happened at the airfield in the Kherson region and to whom it now belongs ..... and the local Ukrainians in Nikolaev write saying with joy that they delivered a successful blow to the Russian Armed Forces in this area and almost 30 !!! Helicopters were captured in full combat readiness....?!?!? If there are defeats .... shortcomings, then you need to talk and explain about them ...... And judging by the silence, they definitely have a lot .... to our great regret !!!

[aglet]

"I heard that there are 2,5 Chechen National Guards there, and everything that you have listed is not allowed for the National Guard"
that is, they fight on their own, at their own expense, and support
from the federals "support for artillery, tanks and aviation"
they can't ask?

[Alexander Salenko]

Here, even for intelligence, you can immediately see what kind of strategist you are. The key to a UAV is the eyes. The rest later. As for the environment, well, read Manstein and Guderian. The latter is not a memoir, but a pre-war book "Attention - tanks!"

[Andy_nsk]

Here, even for intelligence, you can immediately see what kind of strategist you are. The key to a UAV is the eyes. The rest later.

I'm not a strategist from the word "absolutely". As for drones, an attack drone can also conduct reconnaissance + the ability to immediately strike.

[Alexander Salenko]

Only it is bigger and more expensive.

[Andy_nsk]

I can speak quite professionally on the topic "bigger and more expensive", since I have 40 years of engineering experience, of which the last 20 years - as the head of a design bureau. The main cost is made by electronics and optics, and the better it is (and therefore more expensive), the better the picture (which is important for intelligence), the glider itself and the engine are not so expensive.

[Alexander Salenko]

And the engine, dare I ask? Well, an impact UAV should carry at least a hundred kilograms of load, and this is an automatic tank and a bunch of everything, so although I am a humanitarian, I also understand something.

[Andy_nsk]

Engines, both gasoline and electric, have long been mastered in mass production, have quite a lifting price even for amateur modellers. TRD and TVD are more expensive, of course, but the cost of "eyes" and "brains" is higher.
And I don't need to talk about the humanities. In the 19th century humanitarians knew at least 4 languages, wrote poetry, played the piano, etc. Now those who could not master the school mathematics course call themselves humanists.

[Alexander Salenko]

What are you? When we entered the Mathematical Faculty, we had less than one person per place, and at my History Faculty there were almost 4 per place - is there a difference? My daughter likes math, but I always liked military history, and do you know how annoying those who are not a historian who get into history? It's better to be a macaque tail than to study mathematics, our student banter.
Apparently, you studied Herons, but I said that a duar UAV needs mass, because it carries a combat load. Why do I, a humanist, explain such simple things to a techie? A reconnaissance UAV is, roughly speaking, a quadcopter from Aliexpress, well, a little more impressive. No need to be dumb!!!

[Andy_nsk]

I am also trying to explain to you that mass is not the main indicator for UAVs .. and I'm already tired of talking to you.
And the fact that we do not appreciate engineers now - I know this very well ... That's why the whole country is in opera!

[Alexander Salenko]

His mass is not the main thing, and goof. Yes, engineers like you are probably not appreciated, but I am much more embarrassed that there are no young welders, milling cutters, and locksmiths.
You said so about the humanities, and now I will go through the engineers. and not to hell if you divorced at the time? What kind of machine are you able to work with? Okay, just hands. I worked as a worker, I know how to manage a cutter, and with a plan of 120 units, I once issued 280 when I had an emergency. milled polycarbonate with a manual cutter. The hand almost fell off. Our modest production, which was and continues to be run by my childhood friend, was developed by a simple working guy, then he was 33 years old, a long history. Now my friend has 70 people under his management, but 10 of us worked, and in his poverty he is a major producer, yes, a psychologist by training. And when he hired an engineer, he caught him playing tanks and fired him for hell.
So Alaverdi.

[Andy_nsk]

His mass is not the main thing, and goof.

You will be even more freaked out if you find out that the Orlan UAV was developed in 2015 as a reconnaissance one, and only in 2018 it was redesigned to use aerial bombs. At the same time, its mass-dimensional parameters did not undergo significant changes.

[Andy_nsk]

It was sealed up, not "Orlan", of course, but "Orion" or "Pacer".

[aglet]

"You yourself, what kind of machine are you able to work with?"
but for an engineer this is not at all the main thing, his business is to organize production correctly

[Andy_nsk]

I considered it pointless to answer "humanities" to remarks on the principle of "a stupid person himself", but I will answer you, just to whitewash the engineers a little. Not for myself, it's a shame for the profession. He graduated from the Electrotechnical Institute in 1981 with a red diploma, was assigned to the Institute of Aviation, married, entered graduate school, by the age of 30 he became a leading engineer and prepared a dissertation ... In the dashing 90s they stopped paying salaries, they had to feed two children, pushed around , then found a small company that develops geophysical equipment for the oil industry. I still work there, the enterprise has grown to a staff of 300 people, I am developing complex equipment, and I head a department.
From knowledge and skills: I know perfectly circuitry, programming (primarily writing and debugging programs for microcontrollers starting from MK51), mastered a bunch of CADs (programs for development, modeling, 3D design, documentation, calculations, etc. ), since I have to work with iron, I understand metal science and materials science at an expert level, I professionally know a number of sections of mathematics and physics, electrochemistry, I freely read technical texts in English - this is not a complete list. He defended his dissertation, candidate of technical sciences. From practical skills: I used to solder very well, including microcircuits and CHIP components (look into your phone to understand how much jewelry work it is), now it’s not anymore: the eyes are no longer the same, and there is no need for this, and practice in not in recent years: they will not understand if the head of the design bureau does the work of an installer. I can sharpen parts on a universal lathe, but for the same reason no one will let me go to the machine, turners work according to design drawings. If I urgently need some details, I can make a sketch on a computer or a pencil and put it into production, I have good business relations with the heads of mechanical and electronic production, we work in the same team - otherwise we won’t survive in the current conditions!
Recently, my main activity has been to choose the directions for the development of our equipment and the choice of technical solutions, planning, distribution and coordination of work. A lot of methodical work, preparation of technical and operational documentation (ESKD, of course, I know from my student years, I remember some GOSTs almost verbatim). And I can work with my hands in the country: I do carpentry and locksmith work there.
Personally, I don’t have any financial problems now, suffice it to say that over the past twenty years I have bought three apartments in Novosibirsk (for myself and children), but young people avoid technical universities, which is understandable: a sales manager receives a salary of three times more than a young engineer with disparate professional requirements.

[Alexander Salenko]

Behind the milling

[aglet]

"milled polycarbonate with a manual cutter"
is a hand grinder a grinder?

[aglet]

"-1"
"Valentina Salenko", thank you for the cons. there are no arguments, so at least I will win with minuses. don't get excited, I don't like your cons, that any other is purple. just a clear sign - there is nothing more to say, and there are no arguments, so at least I’ll pile up under the door

[aglet]

"We had less than one person per place at the Math Faculty, and almost 4 per place at my History Faculty - is there a difference?"
there is, of course, it is much easier to study, and the diploma is the same

[aglet]

"Apparently, you studied the Herons, but I said that a duar UAV needs mass"
you can immediately see the historian, but, my feeling, you did not finish your degree. how less own weight of the UAV, the more he can take any weapons with him, everything is very simple, even a historian could figure out

[aglet]

"a duar UAV needs mass"
that is, you think that "duary"
Does the UAV strike with its mass?

[Andy_nsk]

For strike UAVs, special guided munitions with a small mass are being developed, we already have a 50 kg bomb, but it is possible to make guided munitions much smaller. During the Battle of Kursk, millions of cumulative bombs weighing only 2 kg were used for IL-2, they bombarded enemy columns. You can make a bomb of about this mass, but controlled, for example, by a laser (remote control is much more complicated and expensive), you can also make a low-power high-explosive charge - the very thing for use in the city, you can destroy armored vehicles, firing points in the city right in the yards, in houses but the glass will fly out.

[sniperino]

Quote from Andy_nsk

In the 19th century humanitarians knew at least 4 languages, wrote poetry, played the piano, etc. Now those who could not master the school mathematics course call themselves humanists.

I don’t argue about now, but in the 19th century. the two basic humanities disciplines were mathematics and linguistics. And playing "pianos" is more about today.

[hagen]

Quote from Andy_nsk

but the situation in which the unit of the RF Armed Forces (the national affiliation of the fighters is not important) is surrounded is alarming

Special forces are not infantry. SNs usually fight in enemy territory, and the environment for them is part of their specific job. Despite the fact that the headquarters, organizing the operation for the SN, always prepare the means of support and evacuation. In urban conditions, in the presence of tasks to preserve the lives of the civilian population, it is possible to clean the city from bandits only with such "surgical" tools as SN. Each operation, carried out in extremely difficult conditions, is an additional plus in the treasury of combat experience for both field units and the headquarters organizing their work.

[Andy_nsk]

As far as I understood from the words of Khodakovsky, Chechnya sent not special forces, but nat. guards and police, fighting in the environment is definitely not their forte.

[hagen]

Quote from Andy_nsk

As far as I understood from the words of Khodakovsky, Chechnya sent not special forces, but nat. guards and police

Each power structure has units designed for special tasks of increased complexity and responsibility, involving increased physical and moral and psychological qualities of employees. The media is talking about the special forces of the Russian Guard from the Chechen Republic. I see no reason not to believe it. Moreover, Kadyrov himself was eager to carry out complex tasks in Ukraine. Accordingly, the contingent of the Chechen National Guard in Ukraine will be carefully selected. Even in a simple MSP, it is possible to collect BTG with enhanced qualities. I see no reason to distrust the Chechens from the sent group. No one prepares units for operations precisely in the environment. But a well-coordinated unit of specialists in identifying and destroying bandits in an environment teeming with a mass of interference in the form of civilians with dubious (previously unknown) intentions, I think, will show high spirit and professionalism in the environment. It's just that by profession they often had to work in high-risk conditions before, and stress does not "break" their heads.

[Andy_nsk]

Thanks for the clarification "jacket"

[aglet]

"No one prepares units for operations precisely in the environment"
special forces always work surrounded, their work is behind enemy lines

[hagen]

Quote: aglet

special forces always work surrounded, their work is behind enemy lines

If we strive for accuracy, then the conversation in the media was about the "special forces of the Russian Guard from the Chechen Republic."
The Russian Guard (former VV) tasks are somewhat different than the "rear of the enemy." For them, work against organized criminal groups is more specific, incl. "guerrilla type". But in any case, they gather there people who are strong in body, spirit and mind, capable of working in extreme conditions, even if they are not specific in terms of preliminary training. Yes, and the "rear of the enemy" is not quite the "environment".

[aglet]

"It is possible only with such "surgical" instruments as CH"
It's another matter when this "spetsnaz" sits surrounded and waits for Kadyrov to come to save him. Chechen special forces - it is so small, but very expensive, today there are five, but also small

[avg avg]

This is cho! Recently Manka Bond told me from the first floor that the Chechens were not even given cartridges! Just like that, with some table knives, they threw them at Mariupol! They didn't even give me a fork!

[Ka-52]

I watched an interview with Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion. You can treat him differently, but what he said about the arrived Chechen fighters once again confirms that now the Chechens are just a beautiful picture. No more. Yes, they are dressed and equipped. But they don’t know how to fight from the word at all. The difference between the Chechens of 20 years ago and the current parquet Chechens is simply huge. And it makes no sense to throw them into battle, their area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbresponsibility is police operations. Otherwise, with their stupid death, they only pour water on the mill of dill propaganda, which happily replicates it on the Internet.

[Blade3]

Who are we here to judge people on the battlefield? Yes, these people did not find themselves in that inferno of the Chechen war. But they came to help us. And letting these snot and criticism in this difficult period is the very last thing

[Ka-52]

you would wipe your snot. I am writing here to sober-minded people. Hooray-patriotism from the couch to express this is of course good and bold. But the methods of 1941 are a thing of the past. Even in 1995 Throwing PPS nicknames or OMON officers into battle for an assault unprepared and without heavy weapons against a trained and motivated enemy is now the height of stupidity. They will simply lie down and not complete the task, no matter how heroic their death would be. The claim is primarily not to the fighters themselves, but to their command. Which cut them tasks, not even understanding whether they are feasible for this unit

[Crimean partisan 1974]

against a trained and motivated opponent now is the height of stupidity.

..... it is in this story that everything is contradictory .... namely, as they said, there are no losses ... and this raises doubts about the environment and hot skirmishes ... my personal opinion on this matter .... to the local people and to whom, without hitting the junta authorities, they threw out a bunch of rifled firearms ... in Mariupol, life is eating at zero, therefore acts of looting are a general phenomenon ... so the chens stumbled upon groups of armed marauders whose numbers were large ... therefore there are no losses

[hagen]

Quote: Ka-52

The claim is primarily not to the fighters themselves, but to their command.

And you, excuse me, on what fronts and what did you command? I may not think very soberly, but in order to criticize those who do the work, you must do the same yourself so that the mosquito does not undermine your nose.

[Ka-52]

did you read my comment diagonally? Or do you have a principle like this: "whatever the opponent writes, I will consider that he is wrong"?
Khodakovsky, the commander of the Vostok battalion, who has been fighting in the Donbas since 2014, expressed an opinion about the combat abilities of the Chechens. Is 8 years normal for your personal aptitude scale? If not, please provide your criteria. For example, the obligatory presence of education in the form of the Academy of the General Staff or the experience of commanding the defense of the Mannerheim Line ....
except for Khodakovsky, I have an opinion in personal communication with the militias from the Donbass. According to the latest events.

[hagen]

Quote: Ka-52

an opinion on the combat abilities of the Chechens was expressed by Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok battalion

Khodakovsky (who himself began to deal with the liberation of occupied territories in urban areas three weeks ago), according to media reports, only made critical remarks about the tactics used by the Chechens in the first battles for Mariupol. It doesn't say anything about ability. The fact of the presence or absence of flexibility in the tactics used will tell about abilities. And besides, this personal opinion is one of .... And it is not entirely clear what this opinion is inspired by. And only ... You directly declare the manifestation of "the height of stupidity" on the part of the command. And broadcast as your personal assessment without reference to anyone else. Therefore, I had a completely understandable question - who are you and what competencies do you have in order to give your assessment of the leadership of the operation as "the height of stupidity." Logically, you should be at least "the height of wit." But is it? Or do you have a principle like this - "they sang something to me there", which means I have the right to give out a biting, insulting opinion without delving into the details." In my opinion, it is not very correct.... I think one should be more careful in expressing emotionality in assessments. Yet people do a great job, and voluntarily, with a high degree of risk, unlike you and me.

[Ka-52]

You directly declare the manifestation of "the height of stupidity" on the part of the command.

let's give an example if you, after a dozen comments on the topic, still do not understand the essence. In 1995, the General Staff of the OGFV decided to conduct a counter-terrorist operation in Chechnya. The forces of the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Navy (marines) were sent there. But on a veil that they represented from themselves. Parts of the MO were formed according to peacetime states. And taking into account the past reduction in the company-level unit, there were only two officers, an ensign and a platoon of soldiers. Everything. We began to reduce the parts into a combined hodgepodge. In fact, it turned out that at the time of entry, officers of the same company level did not even have a payroll of subordinate fighters. The commander did not know the faces of his officers. The last autumn draft fired all the old-timers, most of these consolidated battalions were recruits who did not know which side to shoot from a machine gun. And this semolina, slightly diluted with equipment from storage, was thrown into battle. I won’t even write about the actions of the riot police. Everyone knows what happened. This is the "top of the stupidity of command."
In the case of the Chechens, it is not so scary, but he repeats the same thing. They gathered the PPS officers, dressed them in a beautiful body kit, shot beautiful videos, put them on tigers, and gave them the task of taking two Mariupol quarters by storm. No heavy equipment, no intelligence, no understanding of the situation - nothing. If they had not been slowed down by the DPR militia, then all their tigers and Kamaz trucks would have been burned in the suburbs. And they are useless corpses are unlikely to have helped the offensive.
Your patriotism is certainly commendable. But the enemy cannot be defeated by shouting "Hurrah". Especially professional, like the Azov people in Mariupol. In general, I hope that after the end of the operation, the generals and analysts who made a bet on the operation according to the "Crimean scenario" will be kicked into retirement. Least

[hagen]

Quote: Ka-52

let's give an example if you, after a dozen comments on the topic, still do not understand the essence.

You misunderstand that it is not possible for you to evaluate the work of commanders and their units in a specific military operation. And here I see a typical example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. And especially when referring to "dozens of comments". There may be more comments, but this does not mean that they are close to an objective understanding of the situation. The vast majority of them are written by people who are not involved in the events, and many do not represent what they are trying to talk about. You can keep your opinion. I have no authority to teach you anything. I just expressed my disagreement with your opinion. Base - personal participation in some events of the combat history of the SA.

[Ka-52]

stop raving and engage in verbiage. Your base with "events from military history" also needs to be checked, because I saw how a "replenishment" arrived under the leadership of another Moscow pretentious hat, having entered into a confrontation with the enemy, received losses, and the hat ran to headquarters and sat there until it was sent to the mainland. And then such a hat wrote memoirs about how she fought valiantly and won
If a subunit tries to march into a populated area occupied by the enemy, without reconnaissance, without coordinating with cover (artillery), without contact and exchange of procedures with units operating on the flanks, without identifying enemy firing points, then the commander of this subunit is a fool carrying their fighters to suicide. And his command is scoundrels, who sent a fool to his death for the sake of their general ambitions. Your stupidity cost too much in Afghanistan and Chechnya. I think the fight needs to end. Your level of reasoning is understandable.

[hagen]

Quote: Ka-52

Your database with "events from combat history" also needs to be checked

I thought that you already understood that I have no need to continue further discussion of the topic with an ambitious dropout. See yourself in a Napoleon hat? For God's sake... Your problems don't interest me...

[Ka-52]

with the last comment in the style of the offended, you only completely discredited yourself, comrade participant in some secret events. It can be seen that you are an expert on how to defeat the enemy in the city without getting off the couch

[Alexander Salenko]

To help?! The Mongols, for example, could come to help. These are the same servicemen as Vasya and Petya.

[aglet]

"But they came to help us"
they came to help us. where did they come from? judging by the beards, and Allahakbaram from Saudi Arabia? or are they still military personnel of the Russian Federation, and are subordinate to the General Staff of the Russian Federation? if they are from the armed forces of the Russian Federation, then their level of training is below the baseboard, which is not surprising, they have there to be in the law, the main thing is to grow a beard, that's what they think

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Ka-52

But they don’t know how to fight from the word at all.

Lack of experience is bad, but combined with a lack of preparation, it's a failure. But I don’t think that the Chechens lack training!

[Ka-52]

preparation preparation strife. And we are not talking about all the units from Chechnya. There is a trained Chechen special forces, which is probably no worse than our army special forces. But even special forces have their own tasks. And if you take the Russian Guards, pack their beautiful combat equipment, give them machine guns with body kits and say "storm this Ukrainian region", then maybe they will solve the problem, then at the cost of such losses that all this will turn out to be a Pyrrhic victory.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Ka-52

There is a trained Chechen special forces, which is probably no worse than our army special forces.

The article is about the Russian special forces. Neither I nor you know more. But regardless of subordination: whether to the Russian Guard, the Army, or even Kadyrov personally, their shooting training and actions in building must be at their best.

[Ka-52]

let's be critical of the word "special forces". His journalists are pushing everywhere. In Mariupol, the Donetsk militia is mainly fighting. It is their fighters who perform the main cleaning tasks. And the word "special forces" applies to them very conditionally. Who exactly was sitting in the 9-story buildings, the surroundings of which are written, we do not know.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Ka-52

let's be critical of the word "special forces". His journalists are pushing everywhere.

Uh, well, not a dozen times in a short article!

[Sanguinius]

I thought I was the only one who thought so.)
I fully support you!
In my opinion, they were brought in just for PR, well, to keep important road junctions, organizing roadblocks, sitting in the rear (there is only one confirmation of this ... they have time to shoot all sorts of pretentious videos) there can be no talk of storming cities, these are the Russian Guards, only from Chechnya. And the fact that the national battalions are afraid of them and run away from them is just a myth.
And they are fighting (really fighting) all the same ... our guys!

[S_Baykala]

Imagine, as nonsense, an interview of 42-43 years old, taken from the commander of an SS battalion, about the actions of, say, the Cossacks (I respect the Germans as opponents (the SS is an exception)). The amount of misinformation and slop would probably go off scale. Russia is a multinational country. There is no division of warring fighters: now we are all Russians. Chechens, Tatars, Tungus, Dagestanis, Buryats, etc. (there is not enough space to list them all) are now making a common contribution to our victory.

[Ka-52]

Imagine, as nonsense, an interview of 42-43 years old, taken from the commander of an SS battalion, about the actions of, say, the Cossacks (I respect the Germans as opponents (the SS is an exception)).

Have you drunk counterfeit alcohol or what? How did you manage to compare and put on a par with the commander of the Vostok battalion of the DPR army with the commander of the SS battalion ????
In addition, I will explain once again: there is no division by nationality in the ranks of the Russian army. But Kadyrov's fighters are constantly shown to us as a kind of picture. Many believe that this picture is true. Not really. People who are actually fighting in the Donbass now are frankly talking about the stupidity of the promoted Chechen fighters in a beautiful body kit. I personally heard this from the militias more than once. In reality, the Russian army and the militia of Donbass are fighting there

[Andrey VOV]

There are now different divisions of Chechens. There are really on the same level with the special forces, there are those related to the Russian Guard and its security units, there are just policemen. A variety of collectors and just fighters and specialists entered Mariupol

[Vladimir 290]

the comparison, of course, is absolutely wrong and not permissible, but I think that Alexander did not mean this. He simply said that "Russia is a multinational country. There is no separation of the warring fighters: now we are all Russians. Chechens, Tatars, Tungus, Dagestanis, Buryats, etc. (there is not enough space to list everyone) are now making a common contribution to our victory ."

[Ka-52]

There is no division of warring fighters: now we are all Russians. Chechens, Tatars, Tungus, Dagestanis, Buryats, etc. (there is not enough space to list them all) are now making a common contribution to our victory."

eat. You don't have to pretend you don't see it. All reports, even the official media, even war correspondents, even just the militaristic resources of the participants in the operation, are divided into 3 parts: the Russian army, the militia of the DPR and LPR, and the Chechens. About the latest pictures: here they are praying, here they are discussing something, here they give obeisances to Kadyrov, here Kadyrov gives them an order, here they are driving, here they are proudly walking around some (it is not clear who liberated) village, here they again turn to Kadyrov. I do not see a national subdivision of Tatars, Mordovians, Buryats or Shors. I do not see any reference to this division of the heads of Tatarstan or Buryatia. I don’t see any exaggeration of the topic of the national composition of units anywhere, except for the Chechens. This is pure PR. Yes, God bless him with PR, that's not the point. I was clapping my hands myself, if all this were true. But in reality this is not the case.

[Vladimir 290]

PR agrees, especially the mentality. During the "restoration of constitutional order" I had to talk with the military commissar (ours) of one of the regions of the Chechen Republic. so he told me that he was constantly offered money to take his son to military service. Then they were not taken to serve, as now I don’t know. And with the Kadyrovites, they then moved to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it came to conflicts, even to shooting. But at the same time, they acted competently at home, for the most part they were normally prepared. Although the battalions (Yamadayevs) of the special forces of the Armed Forces, I think they were much better

[Ka-52]

of course, the "Vostok" was assembled from shelled and experienced ones. This is the elite. And already "Akhmat" and "Akhmat-Grozny" and others like them are already far from them.

[Vladimir 290]

Then in 2008, when the East was operating in Georgia, in the photo and video I saw all the same old equipment and some familiar faces

[Oblomoffff]

YOU are confusing the "Vostok" battalions from Chechnya and the "Vostok" of Donbass, the East from Chechnya is generally disbanded

[Ka-52]

You are in the phrase "East" was assembled from shelled and experienced "was the word not noticed? It was about the East from Chechnya. This is the past tense.

[aglet]

"But at the same time, they acted competently at home,"
against the same gangsters that they are

[Vladimir 290]

There were also Arabs and other evil spirits. And the Yamadayevites were for ours from the very beginning.

[aglet]

"There were Arabs and other evil spirits"
compared to chichas they were pennies

[aglet]

"And the Yamadayevites were for ours from the very beginning."
it was written on them that they are for ours? or they fought along with our soldiers and cops? columns led? or just received money, and sometimes sat still?

[Vladimir 290]

During a business trip for half a year in 2004, 8 people died from the East in Nozhai-Yurtovsky district. (these are the only ones I know about), 4 of them were shot by the Arabs

[aglet]

"4 of them were shot by the Arabs"
this is what I'm talking about

[Vladimir 290]

In that situation, the Arabs could have shot ours with the same success - at the entrance to the store, it didn’t matter to them. And then the Yamadayevites destroyed these mercenaries within a few days.

[aglet]

"And these mercenaries were then destroyed by the Yamadayevs within a few days"
did they destroy the Khattab too?

[aglet]

"Chechens, Tatars, Tungus, Dagestanis, Buryats, etc. (there is not enough space to list all) are now making a common contribution to our victory."
then they will claim our victory! and Russia, in general, is a multinational country-

, some Chukchi 16 thousand

[S_Baykala]

I confess, the stereotype worked .. I apologize about the commander of the Vostok battalion, I didn’t enter the topic. I misunderstood your words, lately all these "Azovs", "Aidars" and so on have been heard. Once again, I apologize to the forum users.

[Ka-52]

nothing happens

[Alexander Salenko]

By the way, I agree. Yes, Khodakovsky got into trouble then, but I watch the streams, there were a lot of questions about the Chechens, it seems that only they know how to fight. Good PR, excellent work, but, while still a citizen of Ukraine, I looked at their chronicles at the forbidden Caucasus Center in Russia and was not impressed. But recently there was a program about the cleansing of Samashki, so there these soldiers were hiding behind civilians, just like the Nazis are now in Mariupol.

[Andrey VOV]

There are many questions for Khodakovsky, one of them is about May 14 at the Donetsk airport, so they still haven’t given an assessment, and whoever could give it, alas, they won’t be able to do it

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Special forces well done of course !!!
But, as it turned out, the Nazis were also taught to fight.
Victory will be ours!

[Blade3]

The problem is that these fascists are also Russians. Not realizing their identity, but nevertheless, the firmware of the DNA of a Russian person does its job

[Asad]

The puppeteers of the West set off the civil slaughter, 30 years, step by step, slowly achieve their goal. Gorbachev, burn in hell!

[Crete 25]

They are not Russian. They are beasts and non-humans. And the point is not in DNA firmware, but in the fact that they have nothing to lose and nothing and no one is sorry. Maybe, of course, you personally feel your identity with them, but it's not about DNA.

[Egoza]

Quote from Kreta25

They are not Russian. They are beasts and non-humans. And the point is not in DNA firmware, but in the fact that they have nothing to lose and nothing and no one is sorry.

That's it. They are the same as that journalist from the Ukraine 24 channel, who openly called for the destruction of "mos ... nude, not sparing women and children. Aksenov answered him well, so he immediately asked for an apology !!! Apologized, you see!

The head of Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, said that an apology would not save Ukrainian journalist Fakhrudin Sharafmal from responsibility, who quoted the Nazi criminal Adolf Eichmann and promised to kill Russian children.
Earlier, Aksyonov said that Russian servicemen or residents of Ukraine who detain or capture Sharafmal will receive 10 million rubles from a special fund.
After that, the journalist tried to apologize.
“That's good, but we'll still find you. You will have to apologize at another stage,” Aksyonov said on the air of the Crimea 24 TV channel.
The head of Crimea stressed that he would make every effort and find options to make the follower of the Nazi criminals answer for his words.

[Crete 25]

All his addresses and place of work were posted on Rusvesna, so let's see who wants 10 million)

[Egoza]

Quote from Kreta25

All his addresses and place of work were posted on Rusvesna, so let's see who wants 10 million)

Yes, here, and without money, you need to nail it on the spot, if you meet.

[Vladimir 290]

Well, this follower of Adolfs is clearly not Russian, even genetically, and not Ukrainian either.

[Egoza]

Quote: Vladimir 290

Well, this follower of Adolfs is clearly not Russian, even genetically, and not Ukrainian either.

Yes Yes! Only now children from kindergarten are hammered in: "You live in Ukraine, so you are Ukrainian" despite their nationality. And this type definitely has Ukrainian citizenship. In spirit, he is definitely a Western Ukrainian

[Alexander Salenko]

You can’t even imagine what kind of firmware is there, it’s some kind of tryndets. Maidan of the brain. Not many people I know from that side.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

But, as it turned out, the Nazis were also taught to fight.

..... yeah ... the most important thing is lossless battles on both sides

[aglet]

"Spetsnaz well done of course !!!"
sat on the priest evenly, waiting for their Russian Vanya to free them. and have waited

[Evil 55]

A heavy, extended city with multi-storey buildings and the presence of a large number of civilians is a difficult task for the units that free it from Nazi filth .. Eternal memory to the fallen and praise to the heroism of the winners.

[Graz]

It is not very clear which side Kadyrov is here, were the Chechens pulled out of the encirclement, or did they help to break through the ring?

[mitroha]

Quote: Graz

Chechens were pulled out of the encirclement

I understand that yes

[rocket757]

The head of Chechnya spoke about the operation to break through the encirclement, in which the Russian special forces unit ended up in Mariupol

Difficult situation ... serious guys are fighting there, from all sides.

[cniza]

We still don’t know much, God help our soldiers ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

We still don’t know much, God help our soldiers ...

You can listen to Sladkov .. he himself already felt there that it was difficult, hot ....

[EvilLion]

In urban combat, in principle, it’s not figs to get into such a thing. Perhaps the commandos stupidly got lost in an unknown city. The Germans had their last major success already in May of the 45th, when they managed to force serious parts of the Polish army to retreat.

[Oblomoffff]

Quote: Oblomoffff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqJVmVq033o&t=15s

interview with the commander of the battalion "Vostok" Alexander Khodakovsky

[Sanguinius]

Everything on the case, really the most objective info that could be learned, not taken away, not added. These people need to cover the situation in Ukraine, during the operation, and not this Konashenkov.

[cniza]

In this case, it will be difficult to do without disrupting the system of operational communication between the militants of the national battalions.

Experts, tell me, why can't you silence the connection?

[aglet]

"Experts, tell me, why can't you silence the connection?"
you can, of course, but local residents can feel the inconvenience, and this is nizya

[Andrey VOV]

Quote from Andy_nsk

But I don’t like such propagandist Bandera nonsense

And here the Bandera people, this is from the words of Khodakovsky, a direct participant in the events, as far as I understand, he is on our side.
I look here full of masters to throw hats on the enemy .. well, well, good luck to you in this hopeless business!

Dear, did you take part in real hostilities?

[kill the fascist]

Sad as it may be to realize, but the arrogant Saxons have achieved their goal - the Russians are at war with the Russians. Banderlog got what they wanted. Although they wanted something else, but such is the fate of the sucker - he exists to feed "not a sucker." There is no good way out of this situation. Either bad, or very bad, or unacceptably bad output. In my opinion, it is necessary to choose just a bad way out - to use all the available power to clean up the ruins of the east from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions. Dispose of all who do not lay down their arms. Clear everything up to the Kyiv-Odessa line. After that, it is possible to conduct negotiations, which are to be conducted as the winning side.

[Evgen Medenko]

the operation to release the special forces unit was carried out in direct coordination with the supreme commander

State Duma deputy from the Chechen Republic Adam Delimkhanov. He personally participated in the coordination of the actions of the assault units.

- I'm embarrassed to ask - what did the direct commanders do? Or is it like with a Lenin log - two hundred figures "coordinated"?

[monah]

Quote: anclevalico

Well, where without GDP? It wouldn't have been possible without him. Some kindergarten.

Not everything is so straightforward. There were few cases when ours fell into the ring, and gentlemen commanders were afraid to take responsibility for themselves, they were waiting for a command from above.

[Clear]

Quote: monah

Quote: anclevalico

Well, where without GDP? It wouldn't have been possible without him. Some kindergarten.

Not everything is so straightforward. There were few cases when ours fell into the ring, and gentlemen commanders were afraid to take responsibility for themselves, they were waiting for a command from above.

I think so. The situation is extraordinary, and Putin is still the Supreme Commander.

[aglet]

"Oh, I think so. The situation is extraordinary"
ringing a couple of thousand soldiers is an extraordinary situation that requires the intervention of the VGK? don't you find it funny, lady? when the landing near Kiev was pressed, Putin intervened, or maybe the commanders were found without him?

[vladcub]

"we were afraid to take responsibility" alas, there are such cases in history: "the sea and the ocean"

[vladcub]

"there is communication and control" the meaning of communication in war is more than important. Back in WWI there was a soldier's song
No connection anywhere
And at the front doubly

[Yuri Vishnevetsky-Koribut]

The "encirclement" was a trap for the fascist bastards, they pulled over significant forces of the Nazis, and then they were nailed down like cockroaches. The risk was great. Special forces are real heroes and deserve awards.

[riwas]

The entry of a Russian special forces unit into the ring in the urban areas of Mariupol indicates that the Ukrainian national formations continue to coordinate actions among themselves - there is communication and operational control of actions in the city.

The enemy cannot be underestimated, he can still snap back.

[AB]

The head of Chechnya said that the operation to release the special forces unit was carried out in direct coordination with Supreme Commander Vladimir Putin.

And what excited the people, the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, is betrayed in word and deed. Here, as Comrade Sukhov said: The East is a delicate matter.

[aglet]

"And why did the people get excited, the head of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov is betrayed in word and deed"
personally to citizen Putin

[vs45]

In general, even during the Second World War, especially when the Red Army began to liberate the major cities of Europe, methods were developed for cleaning and fighting in these very cities .... They formed assault groups, which included specialists from different branches of the military .... with the support of artillery, clear coordination and other things .... I watch a lot of video materials about the fighters of the DPR detachments, the guys know exactly what they are doing .... they have at hand an RPG and a machine gun, a machine gun, and a sniper, and even anti-tank rifles, and they conduct reconnaissance from drones all the time!!! People have been fighting in the Donbass since 2014 and they know the smell of gunpowder firsthand... Many of their fighters would be the elite of the army in the Russian Armed Forces, for all 8 years they have been trained to fight precisely in a limited area of ​​​​area, city, region ..... Unfortunately, there is no such experience in the regular troops of the Russian Armed Forces, except, perhaps, Special units, such as Division K, but even then they are sharpened for tasks in mountainous areas ... The same paratroopers are not troops for the person of cities, their task - this is a quick breakthrough, capture / hold .... and now they are howling near Kiev as regular infantry units .... despite the fact that their armored vehicles are weak, But, they are contract soldiers !!! In general, in my opinion, this operation showed a complete shortage of Special Units specifically for fighting in a limited area of ​​\u22b\uXNUMXbthe terrain .... in villages ... cities .... The formation of Assault units in the Russian Army began quite recently, but one video or I have not seen or read a comment about their actions in these XNUMX days ....

[Normann]

Where is RBU? Where is the air support?

[Leonid Dymov]

The special operation in Ukraine is Putin's Finest Hour, as Peter I had Poltava. For the Chechens, this is also the Star Hour, as well as for the fighters of the Ingush, Dagestanis, etc. This is the Finest Hour for the only allies of the Russian Federation - the army and navy.

[aglet]

"as well as for the fighters of the Ingush, Dagestanis, etc."
and many of these etc. in sun rf?

[Oblomoffff]

Quote: Ka-52

of course, the "Vostok" was assembled from shelled and experienced ones. This is the elite. And already "Akhmat" and "Akhmat-Grozny" and others like them are already far from them.

YOU are confusing the "Vostok" battalions from Chechnya and the "Vostok" of Donbass, the East from Chechnya is generally disbanded

[codexgigas]

My friends don’t know how they fight there, but on the videos they upload they don’t even show signs of dust))) Everything is hung like Christmas trees, some grandmothers are constantly fed, I looked at the men from the LDNR, they are all dirty, there are wounded, it’s clear that cut, and then only show off some. I don’t know, maybe I don’t understand or don’t know, but it seems to me that they are following the Russian special forces and landing forces, then such Ramzan Akhmatovich comes in, we’ve taken this, the village. Allah Akbar, Akhmat strength.

[sasha.28blaga]

Well done Chechens! Over the past many years, shoulder to shoulder, against a common enemy... Russia has rallied.