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Pilots banned from scaring motorists

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Pilots banned from scaring motorists

Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force Viktor Bondarev forbade pilots to frighten people after a couple of videos appeared on the Internet with a Su-24 bomber and a Mi-8 helicopter flying at ultra-low altitude over highways. However, Bondarev does not intend to punish his subordinates for the recklessness.

"You know, as the commander in chief, having seen this on TV, I had to immediately sever everyone and everything, and restore justice," said the commander-in-chief at a press conference. Immediately after it became known about the incident, an inspection was carried out: it turned out that flights at ultra-low altitude were carried out according to the combat training plan and the pilots did not violate the charter, Bondarev said.

“There are exercises for both the crew of the Su-24 aircraft and the helicopter’s crew, who instruct them to work out piloting techniques at extremely low altitudes - up to 50 meters. On this basis, the crew trained and performed what was prescribed to it, ", - quotes General RIA"News".

At the same time, Bondarev assured that from now on Air Force pilots would not fly like that. "We, naturally, took measures to prevent further similar incidents. This is not to limit the piloting height, as we need pilots prepared for all combat conditions. We simply changed the piloting routes, piloting zones, the route crossing order, if it will fall in the way of the flight, "the commander-in-chief emphasized.

Two video recordings from car recorders showing low-flying Su-24 and Mi-8 appeared on the Internet in September. The first video posted a resident of Tomsk. In early August, a man traveled with his wife and two daughters to the Sea of ​​Azov. Near the farm Svetly Horn of the Volgograd region on the M21 highway over his car at an extremely low altitude flew a combat Su-24.

The second entry was made in the area of ​​the city of Kamensk-Uralsky. The video shows how a Mi-8 helicopter flies over the Yekaterinburg-Kurgan highway at ultra-low altitude.
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  1. spender
    spender 27 September 2012 11: 04
    +20
    I didn’t see anything much frightened there ... It's funny ... Before that, there was infa that a commotion in the West had arisen, like, look that the crazy Russians “heal”, but it’s hard to scare the Russians, they only get high wink
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 27 September 2012 11: 08
      +9
      Plus, somewhere near the video there is how we have Mi - 24 flew over the bridge, though a traffic jam was formed, everything was filmed on the video laughing And now it’s not at all surprising, especially when the cones arrive, they also land in the city (helicopters naturally)
      1. VAF
        VAF 27 September 2012 11: 22
        +3
        Quote: klimpopov
        how Mi - 24 flew over the bridge, though a traffic jam was formed,


        Klim, welcome! +! Well, traffic jams are not only formed during flights, but also during .... drives! wink
        Since military equipment is always good drinks

        1. lelikas
          lelikas 27 September 2012 11: 40
          +3
          now the traffic cops will fine the offenders and scrape off the numbers from the cars of the malicious offenders :)
          1. understudy
            understudy 27 September 2012 12: 49
            +1
            Quote: lelikas
            now traffic cops will fine offenders

            Yeah. And what will they call the air traffic cop? Mento winged garbage? laughing
            1. crazyrom
              crazyrom 27 September 2012 22: 45
              0
              I don’t know what they are scared there, if they flew over me, I would only wave my hand and pat. Some strange people. They arrange a personal parade of military equipment of their native country and they complain.
        2. klimpopov
          klimpopov 27 September 2012 11: 48
          +1
          Greetings! or so:

    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 September 2012 11: 11
      +8
      Quote: spender
      I didn’t observe a particular fright there

      People don’t have a fright, but the bosses really scared for their places hi
      1. spender
        spender 27 September 2012 11: 14
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        People don’t have a fright, but the bosses really scared for their places

        Sanya, but I liked the way the commander-in-chief covered his. Surely he "screwed up his tail", but clearly said everything according to plans, do not worry, there will be no more ... A real "dad" hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 September 2012 11: 47
          +8
          Quote: spender
          Surely "screwed up the tail"

          Maybe a tail, or maybe a bonus. There’s nothing to dismiss here, it's just that our zhurnalyugi from the fly of an elephant do, as usual, that's all.
          1. lewerlin53rus
            lewerlin53rus 27 September 2012 13: 13
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            our zhurnalyugi from an elephant fly make

            let them try, nothing will come of it, because from a fly an elephant can be made only in one case - when the "Fly" is a grenade launcher fellow
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 27 September 2012 12: 40
        0
        Sure? Anything can happen. Can you guarantee that civilians will not suffer when flying over the highway?

        I can recall a helicopter crash, for example, over the road.
        Or the number of falls of Su-24. And also we can recall the accidents that occur due to driver distraction.
        1. VAF
          VAF 27 September 2012 13: 45
          +3
          Quote: Pimply
          Can you guarantee that civilians will not suffer when flying over the highway?


          Eugene ..... do not start! stop

          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 September 2012 13: 58
            +2
            OK OK wink
          2. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2012 21: 07
            +2
            This is what I love and respect.
        2. orfo
          orfo 27 September 2012 13: 50
          +1
          billboards also do not really contribute to concentration, they don’t remove the current ...
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 September 2012 13: 58
            0
            Also evil, but quite expected. The plane above the track is too unexpected a factor.
    3. Odessa
      Odessa 27 September 2012 11: 14
      +5
      spender,
      I didn’t observe a particular fright there

      Yes, you yourself, the sea is knee-deep. laughing
      1. VAF
        VAF 27 September 2012 12: 10
        +5
        Quote: Odessa
        Yes, you yourself, the sea is knee-deep.


        Esther. Agree +! Especially when the sea is for him ... MINERAL lol

        1. Odessa
          Odessa 27 September 2012 12: 34
          +6
          VAF,
          I wish you a health! Only for Tranzhira, wade through a mead river, and mineral water just the next morning, or brine. drinks
          For the mood. laughing
          1. VAF
            VAF 27 September 2012 12: 41
            +5
            Quote: Odessa
            Only for Tranzhira ford through the mead river, and mineral water the next morning


            Same to you love ! Only I thought he would say yes no guys .. it's you
            you are mistaken ... I like at work .. was late or ......



            But he ... modestly decided ..... to keep silent wink

            Quote: Odessa
            For the mood


            Very very love love love
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 September 2012 13: 45
            +4
            Quote: Odessa
            Only for Tranzhira

            Esther, and this is for you. belay
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 September 2012 13: 52
              +2
              With a red star dearer))))))))))))))))))
              1. Odessa
                Odessa 27 September 2012 13: 57
                +3
                Yarbay,
                With a red star dearer))))))))))))))))))

                Here, for taste and color, there is a photo! fellow
                http://abunda.ru/102180-devushki-i-samolety-59-foto.html
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 September 2012 14: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Odessa
                  Here, for taste and color, there is a photo

                  looked !!))
                  Here, this one seems to have good eyes))) the rest are clearly fighters)))
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 27 September 2012 18: 12
                    +2
                    Alibek, and these? wink



                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 27 September 2012 18: 30
                      +2
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Alibek, and these?

                      I can say one thing, obviously not bitch)))))))))
                      smile kindly))
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 18: 55
                        +2
                        If I’m not mistaken, one is a navigator of fighters, another is a pilot of fighters, and the third is a pilot of transport aircraft. January 2011 year.
            2. Odessa
              Odessa 27 September 2012 13: 54
              +2
              Alexander Romanov,
              Esther, and this is for you.

              And why should I? The sun, I'm not interested in women, unlike you.
              1. spender
                spender 27 September 2012 13: 59
                +3
                Quote: Odessa
                And why should I? The sun, I'm not interested in women, unlike you.

                Here is what mu ... to put a minus here? wassat It’s not a military site anymore, but something for the Antipetians and LGBT (the memory abbreviation could be wrong)
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 27 September 2012 14: 02
                  +2
                  spender,
                  The military site is no longer becoming

                  Do not let the site turn into a brothel!
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 27 September 2012 14: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: spender
                  It’s not a military site anymore, but something for the Antipetians and LGBT

                  And so you can fight, especially since Obama allowed the minority to do this, well, to fight laughing
            3. wax
              wax 27 September 2012 14: 03
              0
              And in the eyes .... love.
        2. Alexei
          Alexei 27 September 2012 12: 57
          +2
          It is necessary to prohibit the presence of such ladies near roads! Because they (such ladies) can distract the driver and an accident (instincts) occurs. But you can get used to the flights of exterminators.
    4. VAF
      VAF 27 September 2012 11: 15
      +5
      Quote: spender
      I didn’t observe anything of a special fright ... Funny ...


      Lesha. Hello! Well, finally, the upper authorities defended the pilots, +!

      Well, the rest ..... wink
      1. spender
        spender 27 September 2012 11: 19
        +4
        Quote: vaf
        Well, finally, the upper authorities defended the pilots, +!

        Serge, it surprised me too ... Somehow it is not typical for EXTREME wink cases when the switchmen were indicatively "cut out", and then somehow so immediately convincingly and convincingly defended, however, the people were not particularly worried, on the contrary, pride in our aviation, which was always famous for its "Chkalovs" wink
        1. VAF
          VAF 27 September 2012 11: 46
          +2
          Quote: spender
          cases


          Lyosha. Yes, just with such "reforms" the pilots are already coming to the ... Red Book ... as ... "endangered species", +! crying lol wink

          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 17
            +1
            That's about this situation, our deputy politician said: cadets get drunk and sleep in tubes of LDPE good
          2. arkady149
            arkady149 27 September 2012 20: 03
            0
            What is this, a childbirth technician?
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 September 2012 11: 51
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        Well, finally, the upper authorities defended the pilots, +

        Sergey, and if you didn’t get up, what would happen on the Internet forums after a recent incident with pseudo-bribe and dismissal. And then there’s nothing to punish them for, let them fly and train.
        1. VAF
          VAF 27 September 2012 12: 07
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          let them fly and train.


          Sanya, I agree 100%, and the more. those are better !!! +! soldier

          And who does not like. then .....

          1. sergey32
            sergey32 27 September 2012 15: 41
            0
            VAF,
            And what would you do if you saw this in the rearview mirror?
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 27 September 2012 12: 42
        0
        The upper authorities defended themselves. For to admit the incorrectness of the situation is to admit that something is wrong with your department.
    5. Yarbay
      Yarbay 27 September 2012 11: 24
      +1
      Quote: spender
      Russians are hard to scare

      I agree)))))))
      But it seems to me from my own experience that if they want, they can be very frightening)) I remember at 92 ohm one plane circled Baku for about half an hour with a terrible sound!
      It seemed to be flying between the buildings !!
      Since I am an impressionable person, it seemed to me that I even saw the face of the pilot)))
      But fear has big eyes))))
      I remember earlier it was morning))) and people ran across the street like in a movie))
      1. VAF
        VAF 27 September 2012 12: 28
        +3
        Quote: Yarbay
        I remember in 92 ohm one plane circled around Baku for about half an hour with a terrible sound!


        Dear Alikbek, you simply didn’t pay attention before, and in fact, in the city limits there was an ARZ for repairing the Mig-25s! +! soldier



        Quote: Yarbay
        with a terrible sound!


        Yes, there is .... what .. "make some noise" !!! wink

        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 September 2012 13: 43
          0
          Hello dear Sergey !!
          Quote: vaf
          they simply didn’t pay attention before, and in fact, in the city limits there was an ARZ for repairing the Mig-25s!

          I did not know, are you talking about Pumping ??
          It just seemed to me there was another case))))
          Just did not advertise !!)))
          The fact is that several soldiers and officers of the Russian army were captured, the group was like saboteurs, like they tried to blow up a bridge in one of the districts, like the Armenians paid them, it doesn’t matter !!
          Despite numerous requests from Russia, the government of the Popular Front decided to hold a show trial and sentenced two to death if my memory serves me !!
          So the next day this plane appeared)) flew exclusively over government buildings and in the city center))))))
          A day later, the prisoners were released))))
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 20
            +2
            Hello Alibek, I heard about this incident, ours were just at the ARP at that moment. Besides the MiG-25, the guys also spoke and cut the SU-25 circles.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 September 2012 18: 28
              +2
              Quote: Alex 241
              Hello Alibek, I heard about this incident, ours were just at the ARP at that moment. Besides the MiG-25, the guys also spoke and cut the SU-25 circles.

              Hi Alex!!
              Maybe, but honestly, I was driving at that moment in a taxi and it was a sensation that this plane ran into me))))
              and most importantly, like a carousel, he came back and came back)))))))
              well that was earlier morning !!
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 37
                +2
                Yes, I imagine. The sensations are still. How I got into a stone crusher.
      2. Odessa
        Odessa 27 September 2012 12: 36
        +3
        Yarbay,
        Since I am an impressionable person, it seemed to me that I even saw the face of the pilot)))

        I usually open an umbrella in such cases. laughing just kidding!
        1. VAF
          VAF 27 September 2012 12: 59
          +3
          Quote: Odessa
          I usually open an umbrella in such cases


          The joke is accepted, +! fellow

          In as a presentation .. live photo ... from personal! wink

    6. Baron Wrangell
      Baron Wrangell 27 September 2012 15: 12
      0
      so in 2000, I drove past Engels, so there were little birds flying over here! Well, the truth is not along the road! side by side, but I can imagine how I would lead if on a shaver yes along the road!
  2. Antipetian 2
    Antipetian 2 27 September 2012 11: 05
    -4
    Because of such nonsense, an accident could have happened and the pants would have to be changed
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 27 September 2012 11: 12
      +3
      Well, if you are so shy, then it’s possible laughing
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 September 2012 13: 29
        -1
        With all the stupidity of his previous statements - in this he is right.
    2. Andy
      Andy 27 September 2012 11: 13
      +6
      / looking at your avatar / well, where did the pants come from? an accident can occur out of the blue, everything depends on the carrier. the same airports near the highway and low-flying (take off / landing) planes, no one is afraid of it?. and the pilots need to BE ABLE TO FLY. and to do this, train.
    3. spender
      spender 27 September 2012 13: 12
      +4
      Quote: Antipetyan 2
      Because of such nonsense, an accident could have happened and the pants would have to be changed

      Sometimes because of nonsense (the table was refuted) and much more significant events in life happen ... wassat
      And then you already need to change the floor wink
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 September 2012 13: 37
        +1
        Quote: spender
        Sometimes because of nonsense (the table was refuted) and much more significant events in life happen.

        That's for sure)))))))))))))))
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 27 September 2012 13: 52
          +2
          Yarbay,
          That's for sure)))))))))))))))

          Here are some comments you should not pay attention to.
          1. Manager
            Manager 27 September 2012 13: 54
            +1
            Odessa
            What movie is this clipping from?
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 27 September 2012 13: 59
              0
              Manager,
              What movie is this clipping from?

              I don’t know. Today, instead of Matt, in gifs I don’t indicate what and where. laughing
            2. Evgen2509
              Evgen2509 27 September 2012 14: 20
              +1
              This is a new spider man.
      2. Odessa
        Odessa 27 September 2012 13: 50
        +2
        spender,
        And then you already need to change the floor

        I also think to change the floor. Or lay a new tile, or coraline? fellow
        1. spender
          spender 27 September 2012 14: 01
          +1
          Quote: Odessa
          I also think to change the floor. Or lay a new tile, or coraline?

          Embrasure on the gun (automatic, machine gun, gun wink ) change and you will be happy wassat
          1. Odessa
            Odessa 27 September 2012 14: 05
            +1
            spender,
            Change the embrasure on the gun (automatic, machine gun, gun) and you will be happy

            You keep your gun securely in cabaret, otherwise paper from alliance will come from Norway wassat
            1. spender
              spender 27 September 2012 14: 20
              +1
              Quote: Odessa
              You keep your gun securely in cabaret, otherwise paper from alliance will come from Norway

              When I use it with strangers, I always put on a silencer, and standard targets all go with body armor laughing
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 September 2012 13: 48
      +3
      Quote: Antipetyan 2
       -3 
      Because of such nonsense, an accident could have happened and the pants would have to be changed

      Yes, not only pants, although you do not get used to wink
  3. klimpopov
    klimpopov 27 September 2012 11: 05
    +6
    The Air Force is the Air Force, well done commander-in-chief, you can see a normal man! He will not give his own people, he does not follow the lead of "public opinion". Although I still did not understand why the noise was raised, they fly here and on extra small ones, especially helicopters, but people are happy to shoot the video and there is nothing shocking about it.
    1. Andy
      Andy 27 September 2012 11: 20
      +1
      it is worse when they go to please the pluro-de (pb) mo-orangeists, who make a statement like "an army for aggression", as it was in the 90s. It's time to send these pacifists. by the way, in estonia nato aviation will learn to fly at low altitudes, and none of the europeaces cares about it, but you see, you see, you got scared.
  4. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 27 September 2012 11: 09
    +9
    Nonsense. Personally, I would be proud at such a meeting for our pilots who fly and conduct combat training. It would be better to get drunk daredevils tamed, from which the danger comes the most real, unlike planes and helicopters
  5. afire
    afire 27 September 2012 11: 19
    +3
    I, too, after reading foreign reviews for this video, was at a loss.
    Why foreigners are afraid of this. After all, when such a colossus flies overhead - there is no limit to Enthusiasm and Amazement! This is a look-PLANE!
    uaaaauuuuuu klaaaaasssss ... fffffffiiiiiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
    flew by, the public eyes with watermelon from the awesomeness of what happened))
    and they are afraid ..... and even call names
    1. Andy
      Andy 27 September 2012 11: 27
      0
      everything is as old as the world. do you really not see the template - "why do you need an army? no nada ... and then suddenly shoot, hurt your finger"? all Russian for inosra.ntsev is a threat: aviation, atom, army, etc. But the Fukushima radiation is very useful - from it the shrimps are muzzle ... fellow
    2. Drappier
      Drappier 27 September 2012 11: 32
      +2
      I agree, a person at such a moment experiences jitters, a surge of adrenaline and delight, well, not like not fear wassat
    3. 1976AG
      1976AG 27 September 2012 20: 20
      0
      Because they are afraid that foreigners. And our plane! Instinct, you know ...
  6. baltika-18
    baltika-18 27 September 2012 11: 22
    +2
    Nothing to say. Let them fly. Better so than not at all.
  7. Alexei
    Alexei 27 September 2012 11: 30
    +3
    When I first heard this news, I was immediately delighted. After all, if such cases occur, it means that there are many flights. And there is nothing to listen to "abroad", they would have applauded standing if all the pilots were dismissed, and planes were cut for scrap and they were handed over for a cheap price.
  8. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 27 September 2012 11: 59
    +2
    klimpopov Today, 11:48 ↑ ↓ new 0
    Greetings! or so:


    Yeah, scoundrel at the parking lot :-))
  9. Larus
    Larus 27 September 2012 12: 00
    +3
    Well, someone was frightened somewhere, someone said something to some and restricted the pilots in flights, which only prevented the liberals. I won’t be surprised if it later becomes clear that the regiment commander got a cap on this, but they told us that everything was done like that. We must deal with such a thing, because they cannot be done in a couple of months, as it was during the Second World War.
  10. sorrento
    sorrento 27 September 2012 12: 07
    0
    [media = http: //youtu.be/u12Jzd7rXqc]
  11. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 27 September 2012 12: 27
    0
    in fact, such pirouettes are dangerous ... of course, on the other hand, these videos show the professionalism of our pilots)))
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 September 2012 13: 30
      -1
      Professionalism is not flying over the road with motorists
      1. v53993
        v53993 27 September 2012 14: 06
        -1
        Professionalism is the ability to fly anywhere and anytime.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 September 2012 18: 17
          +1
          No, flying anywhere and anytime is a rage. Professionalism - knowing how to do it all, do not expose potential danger to strangers
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 28
            +2
            Zhen is a normal situation. A pilot must fly on everything that flies, and with some effort on the fact that he cannot fly wink
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 September 2012 18: 34
              +2
              Correctly. My claim is that the pilot, if possible, should not take the road as a guideline in the training situation, let alone fly over it so low.

              This is a plague. Wires, some other garbage. Pregnant woman in a car or an old man driving. Yes, the driver was simply distracted by a situation non-standard for the road. And that’s all. The corpses. And given the fact that the Su-24 is one of the most frequently crashed aircraft, it’s better to train them further away from civilians.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 38
                0
                Ginseng roads and other large structures are just the most common reference point for topographic location.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 September 2012 18: 56
                  0
                  I know. The problem is that people drive along the road. This means that you must take either another reference point, or conduct a maneuver at a higher altitude, or the flight zone should not include residential areas.
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 00
                    0
                    Eugene has a combat training plan, there is an exercise flying around the terrain, and if you fly along the profile, take off and climb, then these pilots only carry sour milk.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 11
                      0
                      Sasha, I completely agree. Training should be varied. But not at the expense of the potential risk of people not involved in it.

                      In the UK, flights at low altitudes are traditionally considered as one of the priority areas in the training of military aviation crews. For this, the territory of the United Kingdom is divided into 18 of the so-called “Low Flying Area” (LFA), numbered from 1 to 19 (LFA-15 does not exist, or exists, but does not hide over the UK and therefore hides). Due to the fact that the flight of a massive supersonic fool over the head of an average British brings moral suffering to the latter, the Ministry of Defense of this country openly publishes a map of all LFAs, a schedule of all upcoming exercises related to flights at low altitudes, as well as information about who and where to complain in connection with these flights.

                      This is used by spotters - photographers taking off planes. Well, the pilots do not yawn either.




                      On, a good report on the topic, with photos. I think you will check it out

                      http://4044415.livejournal.com/74648.html
                      1. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 14
                        0
                        Zhen, I just don’t understand that such hype has risen, this span is the exception rather than the rule ...
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 17
                        0
                        Because it flew low, because it was over the road with people, because DVRs appeared and such situations began to be removed - you see, almost immediately another video appeared, with a helicopter. And a bunch of pilots, that here, that at the air forums recalls - yes, they did and are doing it. Therefore. And most importantly - they see nothing wrong with that.
                      3. FID
                        FID 27 September 2012 19: 32
                        +3
                        I will try to object a little. England - it will fit into the Lipetsk and Voronezh regions. So she was scribbled. We have more open spaces and never thought (about anything). And Alexander is right to fly to MV and SMV - this is an element of training.
                      4. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 38
                        +3
                        Moreover, it would have been nice to fly in afterburners, the atom simply blurted out quietly.
                      5. 1976AG
                        1976AG 27 September 2012 20: 26
                        0
                        And they were indignant because he did not lighthouse whether there was an ambush over the hill or not.
                      6. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 41
                        +1
                        My question is - they are somehow preparing without scamming motorists, right? Despite the fact that they have much less space. Israel is also preparing, with an even greater shortage of space - and also somehow found a way not to fly 20 meters above the road when cars go there. At the same time, there seems to be no particular questions about the level of either Israeli or British pilots. Question: why in Russia, in the absence of a shortage of space, is such a situation considered normal?
                      7. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 46
                        +1
                        Zhen, listen to one more tale: Berlin airport takes two German and Russian flights, the first German takes off, but for some reason the Russian takes off. The dispatcher is asked: why did the first take off Russian, the answer from the Russian side is in pure German: because we won the war.
                      8. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 53
                        +1
                        Original story, Sash 8)

                        “We are the third at the preliminary in Frankfurt, ahead of us are the British, and in front of them the backlashes on the B747 are already requested to start ... in their native language. That is, in English, plz. The backlashes are outraged, they say, in their own country, they say and so, but why actually ... HSE hesitated with an answer for a moment, a second pause, silence on the air ... and then ... baritone in perfect English insinuatingly gives the tower a short hint - "... because you lost the war!" Before takeoff, we did not hear a single word on the air in the language of the great Goethe and Schiller ... "2009
                      9. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 55
                        0
                        Well, it can be so, but I like the first option more soldier
                      10. Odessa
                        Odessa 27 September 2012 19: 58
                        +3
                        An old joke.
                        Putin and Lukashenko are flying in an airplane. Lukashenko asks Putin:
                        - And if we get into a plane crash and die - where more will cry
                        - in Russia or in Belarus?
                        - I think in Ukraine ...
                        - Why? !!
                        - Because Kuchma is not with us.
                      11. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 06
                        +2
                        The Americans praise their Phantom, our one listened and said: we are flying like this and here I have a light bulb. The leakage has come on, I tell my 38th pilot to figure it out, he gets on the motorcycle and reports in half an hour, we got lost in the Phantom in 185 compartment.
                      12. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 13
                        0
                        8)))) Fly, guys, to the East, to bomb the Soviet town. But this city is not simple, it is called Moscow.
                        Fuck you, dear chef, we were 8, now 6
                      13. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 19
                        +2
                        Our pilot was shot down over the territory of Vietnam and captured by the Americans, After a month he returns, dirty, tattered, and to the question, what’s there? Tell me? He says: guys, learn the materiel, they beat it brutally.
                      14. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 25
                        +2
                        In the "sedimentation tank" on 8 thousands of dozens of sides spin for a long time in anticipation of landing permission. One of the lanes in the port is blocked by an accident. The Bonanza pilot, with a noticeable annoyance in his voice, asks for an estimated duration of the delay.
                        The dispatcher immediately counters.
                        D: Bonanza 123, do you have any complaints?
                        The pilot begins to say something into the microphone, he is interrupted by a distinctive children's voice with the eternal "dad, I want to write."
                        D: Bonanza 123, your situation is crystal clear to me, start the decline immediately, go out of turn ...
                      15. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 00
                        +4
                        Nothing, I’ve got a couple more options for you here 8)

                        May 9, flight on the highway, everyone congratulates each other. Here Lufthansa goes on the air, after a while the voice on the air: "LUFTHANZA Happy Holidays."

                        Interflag flies (80 years), report in Russian:
                        -I pass Vitebsk 9600.
                        ATC: - Destination?
                        EKIP: -On Moscow!
                        Voice on air: -Bomb or what?
                        EKIP: -Niht! Niht! Pivot board, pivot board !!!
                      16. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 01
                        +1
                        five points laughing
                      17. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 10
                        +2
                        I at one time dug up a lot of tales

                        Moscow, Tushino, 1987, summer, day, PMP, flights of a helicopter squad (Mi-2). Two options for flying in a circle: the first - almost around the airfield, i.e. in a small circle, the second - flew around Strogino, i.e. in a big circle. Naturally, everyone liked to fly in a big circle. Near UPC, all those who are not currently involved, the speakers regularly provide information about the situation in the air:
                        Pilot: 498, take-off in a circle.
                        RP: 498, I allow for a little, 200.
                        Pilot: Allow me to go big?
                        RP: No, go small.
                        Pilot: I already walked in small, can now in large?
                        RP: 498 !!!!!!! Only for a little !!!!! I forbid for the most part !! Repeat as understood !!!!
                        Pilot: 498 understood, once again for a little ...
                        The people at the start sobbed ....

                        I’ll throw you one in English:
                        The German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are renowned as a short-tempered lot. They not only expect one to know one's gate parking location, but how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was with some amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following exchange between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call sign Speedbird 206.
                        Speedbird 206: "Frankfurt, Speedbird 206! Clear of active runway."
                        Ground: "Speedbird 206. Taxi to gate Alpha One-Seven." The BA 747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a stop.
                        Ground: "Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?"
                        Speedbird 206: "Stand by, Ground, I'm looking up our gate location now."
                        Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): "Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?"
                        Speedbird 206 (coolly): "Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark, - And I didn't land."

                        Well, and one, having no relation to aviation, is attributed to a comrade from OSNAZ:

                        -I was in Germany. We were traveling by bus through a small town, and the gidsha said: "Pay attention to this inconspicuous building. You probably don't guess, but during the Cold War, the headquarters of NATO troops was located there." Yeah, I think so. We don’t guess. I still remember - the security room on the right, there are two grenades. The stairs are at the end of the corridor to the right. There are two flights to the second floor. Safe with documents - in the third office, there are usually two people sitting there, one grenade should be enough ...
                      18. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 16
                        +2
                        A Russian paratrooper in France at the Invalides House examines Napoleon’s tomb and asks the guide: who is buried here? The guide is one of the greatest warriors in human history! Paratrooper: yes !! ??? And where was he thrown out?
                      19. Odessa
                        Odessa 27 September 2012 20: 17
                        +2
                        The crew commander (pilots) wakes up, looks at the ceiling. And he was all ragged, the beds around the breeches, the blankets full of holes, some men.
                        - navigator;
                        - I, Comrade Major;
                        - Navigator, where are we?
                        - in the detoxifier;
                        - Well, forging me such accuracy, tell me the city!
                      20. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 23
                        0
                        What airport is this? Festival8.
                      21. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 28
                        +1
                        Shops: food and alcohol "The Seventh Continent on Festivalnaya" (Festivalnaya, 8, bldg. 1, metro Rechnoy Vokzal) wink
                      22. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 18
                        +1
                        In the midst of the Iraq war, the pilot of the four-seater Musketeer tediously begs the Center's dispatcher to give a through corridor through the training zone of Edwards Air Base. The dispatcher shows courtesy in working with the client.
                        D: The R2125 zone is currently closed, but especially for you I’ll try to bargain with them ...
                        D: (joyfully, a minute later) 123 musketeer, you are welcome to enter the zone. They have just run out of low-flying targets.
                      23. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 25
                        0
                        Navigator device? Navigator-200. What two hundred? And what device?
                      24. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 31
                        +1
                        No, well, it’s absolutely dupe 8))

                        In the Moscow zone
                        Disp: "85 ... Buzharovo-Karmanovo occupy 4200"
                        The board HERE reports: "I took 4200, 85 .."
                        Disp., A little surprised "Borrow 6000, 85 ..."
                        HERE LITERALLY, in 2-3 seconds the report: "Moscow 85 ..- took 6000"
                        Disp. (Quietly ooh ... wailing, with surprise in his voice): "Borrow 7800,85 ..."
                        And HERE there is a report: "85 ..., HOSE 7800!"
                        Disp-r is shocked: "85..YOUR TYPE AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING ?!"
                        Board: "MIG-29, WE ARE GOING TO THE EXHIBITION IN LA BOURGE!"
                        Disp: "WHO GAVE YOU THIS CALLER ?!
                        Board: "Well, you know better"

                        Two sides on intersecting. UTair and AFL-Nord.
                        Dispute UTairu: save 2100, cross the Tu134 with a train from right to left. Watching the board on the right under 60 12km?
                        YT: I don’t watch. And ... where do you say the board ..? What is the distance ....?
                        AFL-NORD: DO NOT UTair SS, WE SEE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      25. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 36
                        0
                        Real rzhaka wassat
                      26. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 41
                        +1
                        He sobbed when he first read it.

                        Bort: "If you don't mind, I'll stand behind the" little Tupolev "?
                        Disp: "Provided that your left console will not interfere with the movement of motor vehicles. Otherwise I won't go home ..."
                        Bort: "Well, it won't!"
                        Disp: "I believe in you!"

                        *****
                        The Taxiing channel at One BTA Aerodrome rarely works. The dispatchers on the first channel, after allowing the start of the engines, are already accustomed to saying: "Work from the start." "After starting from the start".
                        Today it turned out like this: "Work with felting".

                        *****
                        The helicopter requested permission to go through the aerodrome zone. Disp asked him again:
                        "xxxx, where are you flying from? Type of aircraft? Accessory? And why do I need you at my point?"
                      27. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 48
                        0
                        Zhen I wrote there below, read.
                      28. Alexei
                        Alexei 27 September 2012 20: 17
                        +1
                        Passenger liner flight. Pilots forgot to turn off the speakerphone and passengers hear their whole conversation:
                        "Hey, partner, I would now fuck someone and drink some coffee."
                        The stewardess rushed to tell them to turn off the speakerphone, and the passengers shouted after her: "I forgot my coffee!"
                      29. Odessa
                        Odessa 27 September 2012 20: 21
                        +5
                        They announced boarding the plane. A man with a goat rises along the ladder.
                        “Why are you dragging a goat on the plane?” - the stewardess asks.
                        - This is not a goat, but a dog.
                        “What kind of dog is it if it has horns ?!”
                        - And I do not interfere in the intimate life of my dog!
                      30. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 33
                        +1
                        An uninhabited island and a robinson pops up an American submarine captain appears. Sir how to sail to the Falklands? Southwest course Sir. Pops up the English boat: Sir how to sail to the Falklands? South west sir. Float ours: Hey, where are you Falklands? South west course. don’t shut me, show me your hand.
                      31. 1976AG
                        1976AG 27 September 2012 20: 32
                        +2
                        There, the tower transmits to ours: you, probably, the first time we don’t know the orders? And ours answers: I was with you, but in the 45th on a fighter.
                      32. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 34
                        +1
                        A little higher brought the original story in English
                      33. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 45
                        +3
                        A group lesson on IA tactics, the topic of a flight with a way out of attack. The route Sukhinichi Lgov, through Berezna, the cadet answers, leading with a pencil on the map, in short a dreary and long people quietly snoozing with the teacher, he mumbles the landmark Tikhaya River, the pencil lead breaks, the cadet involuntarily BL, D.B.the teacher began to shake: Where is the QUIET BL.D? The audience shuddered with laughter.
                      34. Alexei
                        Alexei 27 September 2012 19: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Question: why in Russia, in the absence of a shortage of space, is such a situation considered normal?

                        Or maybe this is a PR move aimed at tickling the nerves of Western "friends".
                      35. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 00
                        +1
                        Yeah. But more like nonsense
                      36. Alexei
                        Alexei 27 September 2012 20: 02
                        0
                        Did this event upset you?
                      37. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 03
                        0
                        I already expressed my opinion on it, I think you can read
                      38. Alexei
                        Alexei 27 September 2012 20: 22
                        0
                        Well, they would push the thought further. Punish?
                      39. Pimply
                        Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 27
                        +1
                        The branch was previously discussed. Yes, I think - to punish. Because flying well is one thing, and potentially threatening the lives of others is another. Remember a little such story with an air show in Lviv? But there are many such stories.
      2. Uncle
        Uncle 27 September 2012 15: 10
        +3
        Remember the flight of Chkalov under the bridge? Alertness and cunning? Yes, but what an example of courage!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 September 2012 18: 15
          +1
          Chkalov got into accidents several times, once went to prison for his behavior. By the time of his fame, such tricks had long ceased.
        2. Alex 241
          Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 34
          0
          I don’t know whether it is a bike or not, but during the USSR, a pair on the MiG-23 went to the Industrial bridge in Novosibirsk, the leader flew by, and the follower got scared and turned away. Well, what I saw with my own eyes: 849iap pilot Colonel Kirilenko span under power lines. The first flight was normal, the second was hooked by the right console to the bushes. Result: the pilot died, the plane crashed. The widow and two children were left without a father.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 03
            +1
            In June 1965, a pilot from the Privalov air defense regiment in Novosibirsk flew to the MiG-17 under a bridge over the Ob. He did not suffer punishment, although he was arrested, and Malinovsky personally decided his fate. He resigned as a citizen in 1977.
      3. Alex 241
        Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 22
        +2
        Zhen over the Kiev highway, too, often passengers fly by, approaching Vnukovo, it does not bother anyone.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 September 2012 18: 37
          +1
          Sasha. There are situations when there is no alternative. The planes go along the given corridor, and it’s normal. Much depends on whether a plane flies in parallel or perpendicular, at what height, whether the driver expects him to appear in principle.

          Finding an airport in a city is always a problem. Remember the same Irkutsk
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 40
            +1
            Zhen in such cases set a low-flying airplane sign.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 03
              +1
              CORRECTLY. That's right. Which dramatically reduces the likelihood of a potential accident.
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 September 2012 18: 44
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Finding an airport in a city is always a problem

            But you must admit that almost every big city has it !!
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 46
              +2
              And sometimes not one, especially if a powerful air hub.
          3. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 49
            0
            The problem is that you don’t have to drive airport routes forever in traffic jams, which Leningradka alone is worth.
            1. FID
              FID 27 September 2012 19: 22
              +2
              Welcome all! Alexander, don’t remember Leningradka, well, her (I live in Northern Tushino, on Planernaya), and in Vnukovo, when they land on the 01th lane, the end of the lane is 100-150 meters from Kievsky. The plane is 20-30 meters from the ground.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 25
                +1
                Hi Seryozha. Landing in Vnukovo is a song, especially on Friday evening, when Kievka is standing tight.
                1. FID
                  FID 27 September 2012 19: 34
                  +1
                  About that and speech. And heavy cars go, heavier than twenty-four.
  12. HUMANOID
    HUMANOID 27 September 2012 12: 46
    +1
    Foreigners are so shy. They are especially afraid when our pilots fly along their borders.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 September 2012 12: 49
      0
      Yeah ... suddenly we sneeze in their direction ... smile
  13. Leisure
    Leisure 27 September 2012 12: 55
    +1
    Such a flyby about flights, it feels like planes fly over us every day and more than once.
    Who was the last airplane flying over?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 September 2012 13: 02
      0
      Above me ... a couple of months ago, in Novosibirsk, Il-76 was landing, but what?
    2. Valera Putilov
      Valera Putilov 27 September 2012 13: 06
      0
      Yesterday in Chelyabinsk, TU-134 flew over me then AN-12.
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 27 September 2012 14: 30
        0
        And the other day, a helicopter landed on my neighbor’s garden (Robinson-44). A peter businessman came to the aunt’s funeral, and no one was scared.
  14. Odessa
    Odessa 27 September 2012 13: 35
    +8
    ************************************************** ******************************
    *************
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 27 September 2012 13: 38
      +1
      only do not show it to foreigners ... they will believe ...
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 44
      0
      Good thing the cows don't fly good
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 05
        +1


        Yes, and then you walk yourself down the street - and then on top of you ....
        1. Odessa
          Odessa 27 September 2012 19: 30
          +1
          Pimply,
          Yes, and then you walk yourself down the street - and then on top of you ....

          The flying cow is called Skliz, Gromozeka. wassat
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 35
            +1
            Where's the talker bird? bully
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 37
            +1
            - This is a skliss. He's nobody.
            - Dad, let's take a skliss - I'll fly on it to school!
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 27 September 2012 19: 40
              +1
              Nahal, I’m selling it. Do you want me to hit it, and it turns purple into a speck. laughing
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 41
                0
                Well, what is bad with us?
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 27 September 2012 19: 52
                  +1
                  alex 241,
                  Where is it written about?
  15. phantom359
    phantom359 27 September 2012 13: 38
    +1
    Well, okay. Do not punish, but to encourage this is necessary. The initiative is punishable - an anachronism, which it is high time to get rid of. This proverb was invented by limited warriors who are shaking for their seats and asses. not combat training.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 September 2012 14: 00
      0
      Encourage flying over a track with traffic? Tell me more?
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 24
        +1
        Yes, Zhenya, in Soviet times, the routes were built taking into account their use as a runway during the war, not all of course, but many, on the second tube, dial the pilots have fun, there the French fly, you will be jealous.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 September 2012 18: 48
          +1
          South Africa has seen. In Israel, roads can also be used as GDP, and training is held regularly. But without drivers on the track.
          Sasha, I’m only for training. Including for training over the highway. But such training should be done so that the situation when the plane spreads across the highway of an innocent civilian, or causes an emergency, is minimized. Remind you how many Su-24 lately dropped?

          Feedback from the air forum
          logins:

          For hooligan flights at low altitude, there are special Course exercises and special zones such as stripes. And if there is no admission and conditions, this is already the road to Lviv. You better put out a movie from there, on which you can see how after ace Toponar people are cut by metal ((
          All in their youth were reckless, but then it is worthwhile to understand what is possible and what is not. And in any case, no matter how blasphemous, it is better to kill yourself than to frighten a child with your valor.
          Our aerobatic teams went out to their howl to start work on the part of the spectators on extremely small ones with shooting PPI. Effectively and roar. The people were scared. It’s good that the senior comrades corrected, and they showed iron wads from PPIs. Mastery can be shown to yourself in the aerobatics zone. And if there are no spectators at all, then on Sundays in the GDO to the theater club.

          22 July 1989 year near Vladivostok there was a plane crash of a helicopter Ka-27PS aircraft of the Pacific Fleet.

          The crew under the command of senior lieutenant S. Shevchenko carried out the distillation of the helicopter in the daytime on the route Sukhaya Rechka - Novonezhino. After 12 minutes of flight, the crew arbitrarily changed the route, dropping above the highway to an unsafe height (23 meters).

          As a result of a dangerous maneuver, a helicopter at a speed of 220 kilometers per hour collided with a tree, chopping off its top with a rotor. Continuing the flight along the road and chopping off the tops of trees on the right side of it, the crew tried to take the helicopter to the left. During the maneuver, the Ka-27 sank and hit the oncoming bus with the left keel puck. The car deviated to the right from the impact and collided with a metal truss 6 meters high. Having lost control, the helicopter fell on a passenger car going in the same direction and exploded. The car and the helicopter burned out. In this case, all four Ka-27 crew members and four car passengers (a family with two children) were killed.

          Another point, from the air forum:
          "Recently I was traveling in a car as a passenger. A little behind, about 50-70 meters away, such a drying took place in a bend crossing the road. Of course, I have delight and a hurricane of memories. But the driver did not share my enthusiasm. He was really scared."
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 27 September 2012 18: 54
            +1
            Zhenya, I'm sorry, but I’ll say straightforwardly and it can be rude: born to crawl, get off the runway! Here people are preparing for the WAR. And while there is aviation, the planes will fall and fly over the roads, they will order them to fly in the window.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 15
              0
              Sasha, I’m not against flying over the roads, I’m for training, I understand that pilots need to train. But, Sash, not at the expense of other people. Israel is a nightmarely small country. To fly her plane from end to end - just spit. Nevertheless, Israeli pilots have raided for 300 hours, they constantly make colleagues from NATO (and not only them, based on the results of the wars), but damn, why haven’t I encountered such a case like in Russia there? And then two for a short time.
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 16
                +1
                Well, I persuaded, we will not fly over roads, and impressionable ladies. wink
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 18
                  +2
                  laughing Crawled away to laugh under the table 8)
                  1. Alex 241
                    Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 33
                    +1
                    Another bike, Mi-8, Transbaikalia, the crew is exhausted from the heat, fly through a forest lake, decided to swim. It is said, done, decreased, hacked an outboard traction machine, and overboard. We just did not take into account that the helicopter became lighter, and as a result rose ....
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 27 September 2012 19: 45
                      +1
                      One glance at those sitting on the plane is enough to accurately classify them.
                      The first group - these are fastened with straps from the very beginning, take out a newspaper and read calmly in flight, with emergency messages they continue to browse the press with a bored look - these are experienced passengers with a long history of flying.
                      The second group - these are very curious, consider everything with great interest, try to touch everything, but can’t deal with seat belts, emergency messages are listened very carefully, but with an embarrassed expression on their faces - these are newcomers who fly for the first time.
                      The third group - these are fastened very tightly, several times check the strength of the belts, close their eyes from the first minutes of the flight, and when emergency messages start to tremble finely and finely - these are pilots!
                      1. Odessa
                        Odessa 27 September 2012 19: 49
                        +3
                        Pimply,
                        Such as Romney, who suggested making portholes open — a rare nonsense! wassat
                      2. Alex 241
                        Alex 241 27 September 2012 19: 49
                        +1
                        And now with all this bullshit we’ll try to take off laughing
          2. Uncle
            Uncle 27 September 2012 21: 43
            0
            And remember, in some country, a member of NATO, Italy, it seems, the plane cut off the cable of the cable car with its tail and the cabin collapsed into the abyss? The plane was not injured, it sat down normally, the pilot was tried, the bar tried well, but once someone stabbed a lawyer. How the case ended - I don’t know, maybe someone knows the continuation of the story?
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 27 September 2012 21: 51
              0
              The American pilots of the EV-6A aircraft argued that they would fly to the SVM, as a result of which the cable car cable was cut off by the tail. 20 were killed, the pilots were hastily transferred from the base in Avian (ITALY). The Americans refused to disclose the contents of the black boxes. The most interesting thing was that they were arguing over a beer ., here is the price of human life.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 28 September 2012 08: 07
                +1
                Quote: Alex 241
                The American pilots of the EV-6A aircraft argued that they would fly to the SVM, as a result of which the cable car cable was cut off by the tail. 20 were killed, the pilots were hastily transferred from the base in Avian (ITALY). The Americans refused to disclose the contents of the black boxes. The most interesting thing was that they were arguing over a beer ., here is the price of human life.

                I didn’t understand the meaning of landing here ??
                forced ??
                http://video.day.az/view=3tjjfgbu
                1. Alex 241
                  Alex 241 28 September 2012 18: 32
                  +1
                  I meant flying at a very low altitude.
  16. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 27 September 2012 13: 52
    0
    It’s unfortunate that only in our army, instead of being rewarded for an excellent job as an ace pilot, you can be torn to shreds on the orders of the commander in chief .... It’s a pity ....
  17. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 27 September 2012 14: 10
    +1
    to comment spender,
    in our city, like on a city day, 2 MIGs or 2 SUSHKS I don’t remember (there was still a small one) arrived, such things were done over extremely low altitudes over the lake, there was no limit to national delight .... I have never had so many people on the embankment I haven’t seen it in my life ...
  18. d.gksueyjd
    d.gksueyjd 27 September 2012 20: 15
    0
    So for information, airplanes land at an altitude of 40m. Most airports are close to the residential area. I’m not talking about military AER; they are practically all in the area of ​​settlements. When taking off and landing, they cross the highway, fly over residential buildings, etc. Can it forbid flights and let everyone use trains?
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 September 2012 20: 19
      0
      Maybe prohibit. Irkutsk remember?
  19. Bort radist
    Bort radist 27 September 2012 20: 52
    +1
    In Lithuania, they flew at very small 100m on the AN-12. There it is not possible to go over a settlement, it is not Siberia, the mother with her scope. Complaints from civilians rained every year after such flights. Cows give less milk, etc. .. Exercises on extra small ones were introduced after the Czechoslovak events, and not because there was nowhere to put kerosene. In general, sheep were the most frightened of cattle, cows came in second place, and people often just waved their hands in delight.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 27 September 2012 20: 56
      0
      In Latvia, similarly, in LOTSIK guys often went to the SMV.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 27 September 2012 21: 03
        +1
        Sasha, I understand the need for such training. The question is that in most cases there is one or another possibility of an alternative, warning, etc. As an example - the same British.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 27 September 2012 21: 05
          +1
          Each country has its own realities.
          1. Bort radist
            Bort radist 27 September 2012 21: 13
            +1
            Quote: Alex 241
            Each country has its own realities.

            This is exactly today's photo from our Novokuznetsk. The sky was cloudless and without airplane. A girl in a foreign car left the gas station and decided that the gentleman on nine should let her through. Thank God everyone is alive.
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 27 September 2012 21: 22
            +1
            Sash, the reality is that in Russia BEFORE the FIG. And that in much smaller countries find ways to DO NOT JOG people
    2. MI-AS-72
      MI-AS-72 27 September 2012 22: 07
      0
      Something low, according to the KBP VTA, at one time the AN-12 pilots in Afghanistan complained about it, less than 400 meters on the PMV you can't fly in as a "pedestrian" on earth. PMV came to aviation with the introduction of troops into the DRA, and then the basis of the method for ensuring safety for this exercise was a flight on PMA away from the settlements of railways and highways. Highways were just excluded if possible hooliganism. How long ago it was, the impression was that everything was forgotten, and everything was beautifully painted on the schemes for performing a flight task measuring 1 m80 cm by 2 m.20 and was approved by all chiefs and. it was scheduled, everything is detailed practically by second, the altitude, speed, course, etc.
  20. Alex 241
    Alex 241 27 September 2012 21: 18
    0
    Boris, a few days ago, a drunken freak killed 7 people. They die on the roads like in a war. And not from low-flying planes!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 September 2012 21: 20
      0
      Sasha, do you want to add one more factor to drunken freaks? wink
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 27 September 2012 21: 25
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        God forbid Zhen.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 27 September 2012 21: 29
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          Here I am about the same. I believe that, as a rule, security measures are written in blood. Too often I saw what happened when TB was ignored in seemingly small things.
  21. Alex 241
    Alex 241 27 September 2012 21: 33
    +1
    Zhen you need to try the sky yourself, although once fly.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 27 September 2012 22: 17
      +1
      At the helm of something? Yes, I would love to. And then - only 8 darted here and there by helicopters)
  22. Bort radist
    Bort radist 27 September 2012 21: 48
    +1
    Quote: Alex 241
    Zhen you need to try the sky yourself, although once fly.

    I support Alexander! And it is imperative in the cockpit, with headphones, that both the radio exchange and the cockpit "bazaar" are heard. So addictive !!!
    True, we just did not throw out the landing party (OKDO) due to gusts of wind on the ground. One asked to see the landing from the cab. Ptom asked this every time. I say aha. He is better if I jumped with gusts up to 15 meters.
  23. Alex 241
    Alex 241 27 September 2012 21: 53
    +1
    Boris, you are absolutely right, the best incentive to life.
  24. Bort radist
    Bort radist 27 September 2012 21: 57
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    Quote: Alex 241
    You are absolutely right, the best incentive to life.

    good All we have is 01:00 local, I'm going to land (to sleep) SK (end of communication)
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 27 September 2012 21: 59
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      YOU realized communication end, happy flight soldier
  25. PN
    PN 27 September 2012 22: 01
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    And here I am all the second half of the summer and the beginning of autumn I watch how we fly over the city of Tu-95. Of course, it is much higher than in the video, but you can more or less consider it. The speed is not great, this gives the impression that he is not flying, but floating in the sky. He does two circles. Impressive car!
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 27 September 2012 22: 03
      +2
      One word is RUSSIAN BEAR,