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Syria is now cleans the scum of not only themselves but the whole world

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Syria is now cleans the scum of not only themselves but the whole world

Exclusive interview with Russian journalist, editor of Syrianews.ru

- Western media confidently assert that the fall of the current Syrian regime is inevitable. How do you think, how thorough is this forecast and is there any political force that is able to restore order in this situation?

- First of all, I would like to say (and this is my firm position) that there is no “regime” in Syria. There is a legitimate government, there is a legitimate President, to whom the people have placed their trust in 2000, and overwhelmingly confirmed their confidence in 2007 in the elections. If the 7-year presidency seems long to someone, I can say the following about this: in France, the president is elected the same way for the 7-year term, but no one says that there is a “regime” in France. If Bashar Assad is accused of being the son of President Hafez Assad, then you can look at the United States, where Bush and Bush were senior. But, again, no one calls the US government a regime.

But these countries and other states hostile to Syria, and the media controlled by them all the governments they dislike are called “regimes”, sometimes adding the adjective “dictatorial”. Such rhetoric is used solely to justify criminal actions against countries that they do not like. They say, “we are not attacking the country, we are overthrowing the bad regime” ... Fascism under the wrapper of “democracy” and “protecting the people from the regime” ... How many people die during these actions are “fighters against regimes” absolutely do not care - they carry their banner pseudo-democracy, stepping over millions of human bodies.

Regarding the extent to which the predictions about the overthrow of the legitimate government in Syria are solid - these custom predictions very much resemble Goebbels' propaganda that Moscow is about to fall. But Moscow did not fall. Damascus will not fall.

Only the legitimate authority of Syria, its army in alliance with the people, can bring order to this situation. This would have been done a long time ago if external forces — the pseudo-democracy of the West and the medieval monarchies of the Gulf — would not have done everything possible to incite conflict, if they had refused to support terrorism and stop supplying weapon and money to outright bandits. And if the other countries that turn a blind eye to what is happening, not realizing that they may be next, would not join the campaign of pressure on Syria, thereby helping to create a negative image of Syria. The West simply uses this silent majority, obediently voting at the General Assembly, to say: they say, here, Bashar Asad was completely isolated, opposed by more than 100 countries. And more than 10 countries came out against anti-Syrian resolutions, but among them were such powerful powers as the largest state in the world — Russia, and the most numerous in terms of population — China. But Western propaganda is based on the fact that many small countries vote for anti-Syrian resolutions, which do not realize that tomorrow they may become the next victim of a western predator.

- How likely is forceful intervention by the United States in the Syrian conflict and an attempt to forcibly overthrow the Bashar Assad regime (or will the United States maintain a distance and not take the risk)? In terms of accepting such an opportunity, what consequences will it bring to America itself?

- This probability, of course, is. On the one hand, the United States just ended the war in Libya, which went completely out of pattern, not according to their rules. They hoped that they would win very quickly, that the legitimate leader of Libya, Muammar Gaddafi, would get scared and leave, but everything turned out completely differently, he chose the way to fight to the end. The Libyan war dragged on for many months, the West spent much more money and weapons than planned. And this is despite the fact that the population of Libya is only 6 million, and the army was 20 thousand people.

Syria's army is an order of magnitude larger and stronger. In addition, Syria is well armed, Russia still managed to supply Damascus with a very good technique. Those in the West who are more sober understand that such a war will not be an easy walk, and they will have to pay a much higher price to capture Syria. Moreover, Bashar Assad, judging by his latest interviews and statements, chooses the same path as Gaddafi - victory or death.

On the other hand, the United States is never inclined to spare its enemies, and if this predator clings to someone with a bulldog grip, then it is impossible to open his teeth. The United States does not like to admit its defeat.

Now, thanks to the efforts of the United States and its allies, Bashar Assad has become a very large political figure, and, of course, the United States will try to do everything possible to remove a strong and authoritative leader. For this, the United States goes to any atrocities, sending its soldiers at risk - after all, it’s not those who sit across the ocean in the Oval Office who will have to take the risk.

Much also depends on the outcome of the US presidential election. If Romney wins, the likelihood of an invasion will increase significantly. If Obama remains, much will depend on the impact on him of the warrior Hillary Clinton. Perhaps Obama himself didn’t really want a war in Libya and is not eager to go to Syria. But there is too much pressure on him from his environment. Hillary Clinton, whose hubby barbarously dealt with our brotherly Yugoslavia, will not stop, for her this is personal, she will constantly raise and push the issue of war.

True, there is still a chance to avoid a NATO attack if the Syrian army succeeds in defeating the gangster underground in a short time. After all, if in the country, against the will of the United States, the militants will be defeated, then the United States will know that no one is waiting for them here with bread and salt, which means it is useless to climb.

Regarding what the consequences of aggression will bring America. It may be imperceptible to us, but with every war, even victorious, America loses a lot. All US military victories over the past two decades are Pyrrhic victories. After all, every time a huge amount of money and resources are spent on war. Of course, we can say that they will print more dollars, but this dollar soap bubble is inflated every time more and more, and each time the risk increases that it will burst once.

In addition, the USA with each new war, with each new atrocity and evil acts loses its image. More and more people in the world realize that the killing and bombardment of peaceful countries is not democracy, but a new fascism. If at first one can still hide behind the slogans of the “struggle for freedom”, then with each new war, with each new corpse, with each new bombardment, the myth of the “struggle for freedom” dispels more and more. For anyone trying to dominate the world, sooner or later the hour of defeat comes. And each new drop of blood is approaching the hour when the cup will be full. The United States, if they do not abandon militarism and plans for hegemony over the world, expects an end.

And perhaps it is Syria that will turn out to be the very country about which the “democratizers” will stumble, although it will have to pay a terrible price. She has already paid a lot, lost thousands of valiant defenders, has already suffered a lot of suffering. She deserved to win.

- How do you assess the position of Russia in this issue? Is it capable of making concessions by succumbing to the tricks of the West (for example, on the proposal of Hillary Clinton to create a demilitarized zone), despite the fact that she has already received very difficult experience in the situation with Libya?

- It seems to me that the Russia that supported the UN resolution on Libya and the Russia that is now blocking the anti-Syrian resolutions are two different Russia.

Outwardly, maybe this is not very noticeable, and too many people continue to repeat about the “tandem”. The truth is that the tandem is long gone, and he died at the very moment when the aggression against Libya was committed. This aggression revealed a colossal difference between Putin and Medvedev.

Medvedev supported the NATO aggression, despite the fact that the Foreign Ministry was strongly opposed. Lavrov even wanted to resign after that. Putin made several statements on Libya, and all of them were in defense of Libya and against the position of NATO. I am sure that it was after Medvedev gave Libya to be torn apart by predators, after Russia, for the first time in its life, supported the fascist massacre of an innocent country - the decline of Medvedev and the liberal elites associated with it began. It was after this that the rise of Putin and the relatively patriotic elites associated with him began.

As a result, these other people who are behind Putin and who are hostile to the liberal elites who are behind Medvedev - they already hold Syria, they veto and sometimes make very, very strong anti-Western statements.

However, it seems to me that the position of Russia could be even more decisive. The steps of Russia could be as follows. Take Syria to all international organizations where Russia “rules” the CSTO, BRICS, SCO. Put her newest weapons, including the C-400. Firmly state that an attack on Syria amounts to an attack on Russia. Send ships to the shores of Tartus, expand the base there, making it full-fledged and large, especially since the Syrian side is only for that. Maybe even send elite special forces to fight terrorists. Help in the protection of borders. To supply anti-terrorism equipment, to share our enormous experience in this field. Control their own media in which liberals are settled. After all, it is sometimes impossible to read what they carry about Syria, picking up any lies and giving out “loud”, “sensational” headlines, but not too giving way to the truth (although, of course, this is better than it was in times of aggression against Libya).

In the end, if Vladimir Putin would now make an official visit to Syria, this would raise the morale of the people, the army, and the leadership. They are waiting for him here as a dear guest.

But for the position that Russia has taken now, the Syrians are immensely grateful. With what enthusiasm the Syrian soldiers and officers meet people from Russia! I have repeatedly testified that the walls of houses in Damascus are covered with the words “Thank you to Russia”. Thanks also to China.

It is still difficult for me to say what Russia will do if the Western countries nevertheless decide to step over a double veto in the Security Council and start unlawful aggression, as it was in Yugoslavia. If Russia swallows it, it will be a shame. I still hope that I will not swallow, and then more decisive steps will follow.

But so far Russia has been supporting Syria at the diplomatic level, and for that, thank you so much. This position, it seems to me, can change only if Russia itself changes, if liberal elites triumph here and the “orange revolution” scenario is fulfilled, soft or hard - then, of course, there will not be the slightest chance that Russia's position will continue. But such a scenario, it seems to me, is not very likely.

- How, in your opinion, will the situation develop after the overthrow of Bashar Assad? Judging by the information disseminated through the media, there are already dozens of disastrous scenarios.

- I believe that if there is no open external aggression, the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad will not happen. On 97% sure of this. If external aggression occurs, it will not be the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad, but simply the destruction of the country that is leveled with the ground. The overthrow of Bashar al-Assad and the murder of the country are still different things.

However, I take one percent to the following options:

1. The West can go on tacit aggression under the guise of a "popular uprising" in Damascus. For example, dressing their own special forces in Arab clothes and taking Damascus according to the Tripoli variant, a coup under the guise of the “Arab spring”, carried out by high-class professionals, with the support of internal traitors. But it will be much more difficult to implement, since Damascus is larger both in territory and in population. There is no sea, on which you can deliver a naval landing. And, again, the Syrian army is stronger than the Libyan one. Such an attempt has every chance of failure.

How will the situation develop in this case? Most likely, according to the Libyan version. Alawites awaits genocide, Christians - exile or massacre too. Or they will find the strength to resist, and then there will be a real civil war, when not a single calm hearth remains.

2. I'm scared to write about this option, but the West may try to physically eliminate the President. The West has repeatedly eliminated unwanted state leaders.

As for Bashar Assad himself - there is such an aphorism that the people whose lives are most valuable, as a rule, do not value it enough. Prior to these events, Bashar Asad generally walked down the street without protection and could easily go into any store to buy groceries. On many shots and videos, you can see how he communicates with the people - any person approaches him. Even after the start of all events, the President could sit behind the wheel of a car and without any protection come to the rebellious Ham. In January of this year, almost immediately after one of the terrible terrorist attacks, the President came to the rally and spoke freely with the people. In March I drove to the barely cleaned Homs, where it was still very disturbing, and talked to the residents of the city without a bulletproof vest. And then again, without protection, he got behind the wheel and drove to the south of Syria. When I was lucky to get an appointment with him from the Russian delegation (it was last November), they didn’t search us, didn’t inspect the bags, or even led us through a metal detector.

The president, contrary to many rumors and misinformation, did not leave Damascus on the hardest days, when the coup was most likely - these were the days of the operation of the insurgents "Volcano in Damascus", which was an attempt to storm the capital, and the terrible terrorist attack, which, unfortunately, was a success enemies and claimed the lives of the defense minister and other leaders of Syria. The calculation of the enemies was just that the President was running, chaos would arise in the army ... But the new Minister of Defense was appointed on the same day, there was no panic. Perhaps it was in those days that the operation to destroy the President was being prepared, since there were too many conversations on this topic in the hostile media, which often did this: they reported an explosion or terrorist attack, and this act of terrorism did happen. But, fortunately, in the plans of the enemies of Syria, something broke, and the state survived.

But, of course, one cannot rule out such attempts in the future. I hope that the security service has taken appropriate security measures, and no one will allow the President to act heroically, because his life belongs not only to him, and too much depends on him.

But, of course, no one can predict the outcome of such special operations ... No one knows the perfidy of enemies and where the traitor will come from ... I don’t want to assume this, but in this case the power struggle between different clans can begin and the state can disintegrate.

3. The third option is if Russia stops supporting Bashar Assad even at the diplomatic level, and starts persuading him to leave, as was the case with Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic in October 2000 of the year, and with President of Adzharia Aslan Abashidze, as it was in the spring of 2003. Bashar Asad may not heed such hostile advice, but on the other hand, he is faced with the choice that either resignation or bombardment from the UN sanction and the loss of all allies - as a patriot, he can leave by sacrificing himself. Slobodan Milosevic. In this case, perhaps a milder version of care will occur, perhaps even without much blood, but it is unlikely that even a milder variant will benefit Syria. It will just be a creeping coup. And if the successor of Bashar Assad also turns out to be a firm and authoritative person, the United States will want to remove it already, and everything will start over.

But I think that this option is possible only if Russia changes its position for the worse. And this will happen only if the belolentochny are successful in Russia itself, which is unlikely.

- One of the likely scenarios for the development of events is the territorial division of Syria into three parts. Chagry Erkhan, director of the Center for Strategic Studies of European Nations, believes that the Baath regime, who is being removed from power, will try to create a new state based on its membership in the Latkhia-Tartus mazhab, which may entail deciding whether to destroy or assimilate the Sunni population. In addition, a similar course (the creation of a new state) can be taken by the Kurds. And here a difficult question arises, how to prevent the division of the country? Erhan believes that as soon as the government intervenes in the process, resorting to violent measures, this will lead to even more bloodshed. How likely, in your opinion, is this scenario?

- It seems to me that such a scenario is possible if events develop according to the Libyan scenario. In Latakia and Tartus, support for legitimate authority is currently the highest. If Damascus cannot be held, and it will be taken according to the Tripoli variant, while Bashar Assad will be able to escape, just as Gaddafi managed to get out alive from the burning Tripoli - then Latakia will become Syrian Sirt. And on the coast there could be such a fortress, such a bastion, where Bashar will retain power and influence, where the Alawites and Kurds will move, and if Russia helps this enclave and fails to crush it, then this little piece of land will be the last unconquered bastion of the East.

But the fact that there will be the destruction of the Sunni population is absolutely impossible. Alawites adhere to a soft, moderate Islam, they do not call for cutting Sunnis. Unlike the Sunnis, who succumbed to the propaganda of even more radical and cruel currents in Islam - the Wahhabis and the Salafis. In areas that are now captured by the rebels, it is very often possible to find inscriptions on the walls: “Alawites in the coffin, Christians in Beirut”.

Alawites never called on anyone to destroy on the basis of faith, it is contrary to their religion.

The Kurds can also take advantage of the situation and separate part of Syria in the northeast, near the city of Kamyshly. It is then that serious consequences await Turkey, which, while supporting the rebellion, does not calculate the consequences that are destructive for themselves.

You write that "Erhan believes that as soon as the government intervenes in the process, resorting to violent measures, this will lead to even more bloodshed." On this occasion, I can say that the antiterrorist operations conducted by the government, on the contrary, prevent such a scenario. If someone contributes to the collapse of Syria and even more bloodshed, then this is by no means the government of Syria. These are the forces that sponsor the terrorists, help them - the most brutal gangsters - at the diplomatic level, use them as cheap cannon fodder and throw them at the recalcitrant country. The government, on the contrary, is struggling with this scum recruited from all over the world. There are the same bandits who once fought in Chechnya, in Kosovo, in Afghanistan, and in Libya. And who at any time can incite Moscow and St. Petersburg. But those gangsters who will find their end in Syria - they will not go to cut people in Russia. Syria is now cleans the scum, not only themselves, but the whole world. This country should not collapse, it should stand and win!
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  1. spender
    spender 27 September 2012 10: 44
    +24
    An interesting assessment, however it really is the way it really is hi Indeed, it is time for the Russian press to call the bandits rebels, however what I even sometimes called freaks in Chechnya ... Well, in reality, Russia needs to help Assad more actively, but under the conclusion of economic agreements
    1. Odessa
      Odessa 27 September 2012 10: 50
      +13
      spender,
      An interesting assessment, however it really is the way it really is

      You are right. Syria was that litmus test, that is, an indicator for all world politics. Only Russia behaved in relation to Syria good , and here the USA, and Turkey, and the same LAS, in relation to Syria negative When everything was quiet and calm in Syria, they made friendship, and as soon as the opposition boiled from outside with bandits of all stripes, they quickly reoriented, corrupt, these were Syria's allies (friends)
      1. ShturmKGB
        ShturmKGB 27 September 2012 11: 09
        +8
        A friend in need is a friend indeed!
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 27 September 2012 11: 46
        +4
        Quote: Odessa
        here such Syria had allies (friends)


        Same as Libya, one to one
        1. crazyrom
          crazyrom 27 September 2012 23: 11
          +1
          Fortunately, there is nothing new in the article - that is, everything seemed to be about the same! So Syria will stand, the girl writes everything correctly!
      3. gas
        gas 27 September 2012 14: 28
        0
        Let's see how it will lead with Iran!
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 27 September 2012 11: 16
      +16
      A group of Syrian rebels sided with the government

      A group of Syrian rebels decided to end the armed struggle against the regime of President Bashar al-Assad and return to the government army. According to Agence France-Presse, on Wednesday, September 26, the group’s commander, Captain Khaled Abdel Rahman al-Zamel, made a statement at the meeting of the opposition forces.

      According to him, the rebels intend to cooperate with the Ministry of National Reconciliation.

      As al-Zamel said, he and his associates believe that the problems facing Syria cannot be solved by military means by killing innocent people. "We are all Syrians, we reject a revolution that begins with the shedding of blood," the captain stressed, urging other rebels to also abandon the uprising.


      Full article here http://lenta.ru/news/2012/09/26/fighters/
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 27 September 2012 11: 46
        +5
        Quote: Sith Lord
        A group of Syrian rebels sided with the government


        That's the topic, thanks
      2. alexng
        alexng 27 September 2012 12: 46
        0
        The news is good, but how reliable it is. It’s the same as the tape. And any duck can be prepared there, baked for readability.
        There is still a link to this Old from independent sources or something official ..?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 27 September 2012 13: 48
          +1
          "As reported on Wednesday, September 26, Agence France-Presse" http://www.afp.com/
        2. gas
          gas 27 September 2012 14: 31
          +7
          Read on the official website of Syria sana.sy or Anna. Although, as in any warring country, their losses are reduced, and the losses of the enemy are exaggerated. But there will be more truth than in the American media.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 September 2012 11: 29
      +5
      Quote: spender
      Indeed, it is time for the Russian press to call the bandits rebels, however what I even sometimes called freaks in Chechnya ..

      If the Russian media begin to call terrorists rebels, then society will have questions, why we call partners those who support terrorists and even provide them with transshipment points. A play on words and all.
    4. starshina78
      starshina78 27 September 2012 12: 42
      +3
      it is high time to call the rebels bandits. only with further actions the top of our state, Russia, will not go. Putin and company are afraid. He is afraid that for too strong measures and rapprochement, the conclusion of new contracts and the supply of weapons, he could be punished by the United States and the European Union. The punishment will be the simplest - refusal from Russian gas and oil, a gradual reduction in supplies and switching to shale gas production, the development of alternative energy sources. And there is another important aspect - the money - that of the "Stabilization" "Welfare" funds are kept and work in the USA, and this is a great trump card for influencing the Russian Government.
      1. mongoose
        mongoose 27 September 2012 13: 07
        +1
        Yeah, scared, you see for a long time and unrequitedly in love with GDP?
        1. gas
          gas 27 September 2012 14: 39
          0
          Is this the whole answer? Reasonedly! I hope that in response to this message there will be something smarter than the minus one!
      2. donchepano
        donchepano 27 September 2012 21: 31
        +2
        And from what the hell is FUNDS MONEY I UNDERSTAND OUR RUSSIAN MONEY STORED AND WORK IN THE USA ?? WHAT ARE THE WEIGHT OF THESE FUNDS IN DOLLAR CALCULATION? WHAT IS THE PERCENT? WHEN HAVE THEY PUT THERE AND ABOUT WHOSE ORDER? WHO KNOWS PLEASE SHARE THE INFORMATION .. THE COUNTRY SHOULD KNOW HIS HEROES ..
      3. Nick
        Nick 27 September 2012 22: 51
        0
        Quote: starshina78
        The punishment will be the simplest - the rejection of Russian gas and oil, a gradual reduction in supplies and a switch to the production of shale gas, the development of alternative energy sources

        From such "punishment" Europe will become bad, and Ameram too. Energy prices will skyrocket. Russia is the largest player in the energy markets; it will not be possible to replace Russian supplies quickly, and this is a crisis.
        Therefore, Putin is still afraid of his Western colleagues.
    5. mongoose
      mongoose 27 September 2012 13: 06
      +4
      spender, and where in Russia have you seen the "Russian" press? she is rather Israeli laughing
    6. Isr
      Isr 27 September 2012 14: 46
      -16
      Quote: Natella Speranskaya
      I am scared to write about this option, but the West may try to physically eliminate the President. The West has repeatedly eliminated objectionable state leaders.

      Interestingly, Natella Speranskaya was scared to write when the USSR physically eliminated presidents and entire states. When the USSR liquidated the president in Afghanistan, she probably was not yet born, but when Russia recently attacked tiny Georgia, she probably saw all this, but was "afraid" to write?
      1. Isr
        Isr 27 September 2012 15: 02
        -12
        For the most part, the West does not give a damn what is happening in Syria, but who does not give a damn to the Arabs. It is they, the Sunnis, who want to restore order in the Sunni country and break the ridge of the Shiite axis of Tehran-Damascus-Hezbollah. By the way, after that Lebanon will breathe more freely, how many years they still suffer under Shiite oppression.
        The article is full of Russian fantasies about what is happening in Syria, does not meet the realities of life, is full of conspiracies and fraud. The usual compilation of Russian materials on this topic.
        1. Che
          Che 27 September 2012 16: 48
          +7
          Isr,
          But those bandits who find their end in Syria - they will not go to slaughter people in Russia. Syria is now cleansing of scum not only herself, but the whole world. This country should not fall apart, it must survive and win!

          Article +++ Good for everyone - the truth is slowly taking possession of the minds of people.
        2. Ratibor12
          Ratibor12 27 September 2012 20: 17
          +6
          Quote: Isr
          Lebanon will breathe more freely, how many years they still suffer under Shiite oppression.

          Let's better cheer for the Palestinians eh? How much they still suffer under the fascist yoke!

          Quote: Isr
          The article is full of Russian fantasies about what is happening in Syria, does not meet the realities of life, is full of conspiracies and fraud. The usual compilation of Russian materials on this topic.

          Is the whole Eretz packed with such expert prophets? Well, you gave the country coal! Nozdredamus you are our gutta-performer!
        3. Nick
          Nick 27 September 2012 23: 03
          +8
          Quote: Isr
          Russia recently attacked tiny Georgia,

          Well, this is a sign of insanity.
          You tell this version to Ossetians at a personal meeting ...
        4. smile
          smile 28 September 2012 03: 39
          +3
          Isr
          Ah, how easy it is to breathe in a free Arcanar .... here you are honestly bryakat me. which of Syria’s neighbors will easily take a sigh if it is furious, like Libya and scrutinizes gang areas ..... I don’t know what kind of fantasies you have ... but fantasies about set on fire Syria are clearly pathological ... especially since you live nearby ...
      2. Uncle
        Uncle 27 September 2012 15: 33
        +2
        Happy Yom Kippur to you and your Speranskaya.
        1. Isr
          Isr 27 September 2012 17: 02
          -6
          This holiday is not congratulated. But Speranskaya Yours, we don’t need this.
      3. Che
        Che 27 September 2012 16: 58
        +3
        Isr,
        Amer together with you destroy the unwanted around the world. Therefore, it is better to look at yourself. In a stranger’s eye you see a mote in your logs you don’t notice.
        1. Isr
          Isr 27 September 2012 17: 10
          -6
          Quote: Che
          Amer together with you destroy the unwanted around the world

          In your logs do not notice. You destroy. And we are peaceful people, we just fight for a peaceful sky above our earth.
          Until now, our sky has been defiled only for a moment by airplanes. So draw conclusions who are destroying people around the world. You begin to list, there will remain few unaffected countries - Afghanistan, Georgia, the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania, Japan, China, Iran, Angola, Vietnam, Cuba, Latin America, provoking and sponsoring wars in the Middle East, but you will not list everyone.
          1. Isr
            Isr 27 September 2012 17: 12
            -15
            Map of "friends" of Russia.
            1. Ratibor12
              Ratibor12 27 September 2012 22: 30
              +1
              Quote: Isr
              Map of "friends" of Russia.

              Come on! There is one territory (ersatz state), so there with friends completely seam!
            2. OSTAP BENDER
              OSTAP BENDER 28 September 2012 00: 18
              +6
              Why do the Jews (with the exception of Odessa) who sit on this site so hate everyone and everything, they all have their own opinion, which they think is right, what they think is the same right, because they live is right, what they do is right! Go to your Jewish sites and do the teaching there !!!!!!!! We will sort things out without you here, Zionists-fascists unfinished.
            3. smile
              smile 28 September 2012 04: 08
              +4
              Isr
              Ill, and where have you been taught this? By the way, there is really a rational grain in your blot - Great Great Russia .... and there are only Isra around .... well, this is how it turns out for you, because in fact around you are just neighbors. with whom we are friends, then we give on the neck ..... that's interesting why such a flag was fastened ... are you really trying to provoke anti-Jewish statements? ... oh well ... every nation has miscarriages like you ...., given the nationality of my beloved aunt Asya, Wasserman and Odessa, you are rubbish from which they will be more denied than you from Stalin ... thanks to which you live where you live ....
            4. Che
              Che 28 September 2012 08: 21
              +5
              Isr,
              Sewerage broke, I am not anti-Semite, do not excite this feeling in Rus. Russia at one time helped in the creation of your state, apparently a geopolitical mistake was made then.
            5. Director
              Director 28 September 2012 18: 10
              +2
              YOU DID YOURSELF DRAW THIS CARD. negative
              1. Isr
                Isr 28 September 2012 20: 24
                -2
                No, I downloaded it from a Russian site.
          2. Ratibor12
            Ratibor12 27 September 2012 20: 22
            +2
            Quote: Isr
            In your logs do not notice. You destroy. And we are peaceful people, we just fight for a peaceful sky above our earth.
            Until now, our sky has been defiled only for a moment by airplanes. So draw conclusions who are destroying people around the world. You begin to list, there will remain few unaffected countries - Afghanistan, Georgia, the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania, Japan, China, Iran, Angola, Vietnam, Cuba, Latin America, provoking and sponsoring wars in the Middle East, but you will not list everyone.


            Oh mom! And is that all of us ??? Right already takes pride! And can we still destroy and desecrate ah? Be sure to enter Israel! How did you forget to name this oasis of defilement?
          3. Nick
            Nick 27 September 2012 23: 14
            +2
            Quote: Isr
            You destroy. And we are peaceful people, we are simply fighting for a peaceful sky above our land. Until now, our sky has been defiled only for a moment by airplanes. So draw conclusions who are destroying people around the world. You’ll start to list, there will be few unaffected countries - Afghanistan, Georgia, the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania, Japan, China, Iran, Angola, Vietnam, Cuba, Latin America,

            Well, this is a diagnosis ...
            You would have also dragged Libya, Egypt, Syria and Tunisia into this list of "Russian victims" ... And about Japan, in general, scream ... You think that Russia, and not America, subjected the peaceful Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to barbaric atomic bombings.
            He always considered Jews stupid people, but it can be seen in the family not without a freak.
          4. smile
            smile 28 September 2012 03: 58
            +2
            Isr
            Gay ... in the sense of a loud shout, but you have not forgotten. what if it weren’t for us, you would not have been at all, nor in this territory specifically? .. I don’t need thanks, especially since each of us pursued our own goals ... but to compare us and the USA - 168 INTERVENTIONS over the 20th century, is somehow incorrect, especially since it’s not very clear - you for whom, for The United States, in which anti-Semitism is blooming? ... and in which the president calls for a return to the borders of 67 years? or for peace? :))) And about sponsoring wars near you and the coming to power of your ultraradical neighbors, I don’t tell you ... or do you like them very much? .... correctly, the Russians are to blame for everything .... well, the name they have such a guilty ...... I understand the pogroms of Russians, or ghettos, like the Palestinians create - little hands are short ... but you really want to, right? As you say, occupy your little hands with something that you can’t list .... You will be healthier ....... you are a geek of the Jewish people, to whom I normally belong ..... my condolences .....
          5. Che
            Che 28 September 2012 08: 20
            +3
            Isr,
            Sewerage broke, I am not anti-Semite, do not excite this feeling in Rus. Russia at one time helped in the creation of your state, apparently a geopolitical mistake was made then.

            Isr,
            Sewerage broke, I am not anti-Semite, do not excite this feeling in Rus. Russia at one time helped in the creation of your state, apparently a geopolitical mistake was made then.
      4. 53-Sciborskiy
        53-Sciborskiy 27 September 2012 18: 58
        +4
        Quote: Isr
        Interestingly, Natella Speranskaya was scared to write when the USSR physically eliminated presidents and entire states.
        The USSR has long been gone, there is the United States with its aggressive policies. For some reason, you are not outraged about this. Little Georgia was the first to attack tiny Ossetia at night when the city was asleep; little Georgia killed women, old people and children. All intelligent humanity understands who the aggressor is. PS If it were not for the USSR in 1945, there might not have been Jews.
      5. Ratibor12
        Ratibor12 27 September 2012 20: 10
        +7
        Quote: Isr
        when the USSR physically eliminated presidents and entire states. When the USSR liquidated the president in Afghanistan, she probably wasn’t born yet, but when Russia recently attacked tiny Georgia,


        Wow, what are you talking about, dear! Here you are a fun, however! Everyone knows that the USA attacked Afghanistan, and Georgia attacked the tiny South Ossetia. You are completely wild and stupid in your kibbutzim. Pacey matzoh slurping.
      6. Nick
        Nick 27 September 2012 22: 57
        +7
        Quote: Isr
        USSR eliminated president in Afghanistan

        If you mean Amin, then he was not the president! He was the killer of the President of Afghanistan, Taraki and his entire family, as well as the usurper of the presidential power in Afghanistan.
        Learn the story.
        1. Isr
          Isr 28 September 2012 20: 58
          -3
          Quote: Nick
          Learn the story

          "On April 27, 1978, a communist coup took place in Afghanistan, which Andropov's people had been preparing for several years. The democratic government of Mohamed Daoud was overthrown by one of the communist factions called the Democratic People's Party of Afghanistan, and Moscow's direct agent Taraki became president. Immediately followed by a massive economic and financial aid from the USSR Thousands of Soviet "advisers" poured into Afghanistan. The communist government of Taraki, acting according to the method of "the only correct teaching", immediately proceeded to shootings, demolition of mosques and mass expropriation. The answer was a popular uprising. Only an idiot could throw a similar challenge to a Muslim country. The uprising expanded, and the imminent fall of the communist regime became a foregone conclusion. Naturally, a squabble immediately began in the communist elite of Kabul. On September 14, 1979, the Prime Minister of the new regime, Amin, shot President Taraki and declared Sa my self. Taraki was killed as he was preparing to sign an appeal to the Soviet Union to send troops to pacify the rebellious people. "
          Igor Bunich. Party gold
          1. Isr
            Isr 28 September 2012 21: 56
            -2
            “While Amin was pondering the answer, the invasion began. It was clearly planned according to the Czechoslovak model. On December 24, units of the 50th Guards Airborne Division landed at the Bagram airfield 105 kilometers north of Kabul. At the same time, Soviet“ advisers ”neutralized the Afghan units, organizing a park stump in tank units, blocking communications and detaining all the top leadership of the Afghan army at a banquet. Military vehicles of the paratroopers rushed into Kabul on the move, taking control of the strategic points of the capital. A special KGB unit ("Delta") surrounded the Daruloman palace south of Kabul, where it was President Amin. While the "Delta" surrounded the presidential palace, General Paputin was still trying to persuade Amin to officially turn to the USSR for military assistance or to resign, giving up his post to Andropov's direct protege, Babrak Karmal, who was in Czechoslovakia ...
            The 357th and 66th motorized rifle divisions entered Afghanistan through Kushka and other border posts. They occupied the cities of Herat and Farah in the west of the country. At the same time, the 360th and 201st divisions, advancing on Termez, crossed the Amu Darya and captured the strategic Salang tunnel. For ten years the Soviet Union built a highway in Afghanistan, which was given the name "Friendship". Less than a month after the completion of the work, Soviet tanks had already appeared on the highway.
            1. Nick
              Nick 29 September 2012 13: 48
              0
              Quote: Isr
              Less than a month after the completion of work, Soviet tanks appeared on the highway.

              Brilliantly performed operation. We can when we want.
      7. vikruss
        vikruss 27 September 2012 23: 53
        0
        On your stupid uneducated comments it's not even worth to answer.
        1. Director
          Director 28 September 2012 18: 08
          0
          who let the Amerrrhiykannz here, and even not speak Russian. Respected
          vikruss speak russian, especially since you know one hundred pounds well.
        2. 53-Sciborskiy
          53-Sciborskiy 28 September 2012 18: 45
          +1
          Quote: vikruss
          On your stupid uneducated comments it's not even worth to answer.
          Purely American arrogance, and confidence in their infallibility based on false media. hi
          1. smile
            smile 28 September 2012 21: 47
            0
            53-Sciborskiy
            Guys, take it easy - p_dos ran into Isra (see who the replica is addressed to) ... he is in agreement with us .... maybe he doesn't have a Russian clave .... and you have to tear him right away .... it's so bad, first you have to to understand. ;)))
      8. smile
        smile 28 September 2012 03: 32
        +4
        Isr
        Wah .... and the three hundred millionth US on Granada, or Panama attacked because of their tinyness, but microscopic? Have you forgotten that the Georgian army involved in a real fight (and not virtual, as in Panama, where everyone fled from an air strike) outnumbered ours? And about the fact that the number of governments overthrown by the United States does not fit into the figure 1, did you hesitate to say? I applaud your shyness ... bravo! .... not ashamed?
        1. Nick
          Nick 28 September 2012 17: 34
          +1
          Bravo Vladimir.
          1. smile
            smile 28 September 2012 21: 49
            0
            Nick
            Thank you, colleague.
    7. Director
      Director 27 September 2012 17: 59
      +9
      Today the main thing happened - that when something happened here in Chechnya, the Rebels began to switch to the side of the LEGAL government, which means that common sense will win, Syria will stand and live in happiness, in spite of the saber-toothed shit-moles angry
  2. Drappier
    Drappier 27 September 2012 10: 55
    +6
    Yes, Putin in Syria it was an ACCEPTANCE, his PR managers definitely need to take note of this, not cranes and amphorae.
    1. Retx
      Retx 27 September 2012 13: 22
      +7
      This would be not only an act, but also the cause of diarrhea in some politicians and heads of state laughing
      And rats and their guano clean
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 28 September 2012 18: 12
        +1
        Retx,
        That's where it was to live well before the war. Gardens, fruits. Why did the amers promote this crap with the revolution.
    2. gas
      gas 27 September 2012 14: 36
      +1
      The war is not over yet ... It's too early to talk about actions.
    3. baltika-18
      baltika-18 27 September 2012 19: 24
      -3
      Putin is in Syria. Why are you. He’s traveling around the country with such cover. Half of the army should be transported to Syria.
      1. Director
        Director 28 September 2012 18: 04
        0
        Actually, it is necessary for Him (Putin), he is the king of the Russian lands, and a huge SHARK bone in the throat of all the enemies of Russia.
  3. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 27 September 2012 11: 00
    +13
    But those bandits who find their end in Syria - they will not go to slaughter people in Russia. Syria is now cleansing of scum not only herself, but the whole world.

    Indeed, all the scum of the world has now crawled into Syria and, encouraged by the generous financial and informational inflows of the West, they are creating their outrage. And the more the Syrian army destroys them, the cleaner it will be in the world, because God forbid, if legitimate authority falls in Damascus, then all this rabble, hungry for blood and money, will go on. Good luck to Assad and his people in the fight against world imperial terrorism.
    1. Nick
      Nick 27 September 2012 23: 19
      +3
      We need to help the Syrians slam the mousetrap, toss up ammunition ...
  4. andrei332809
    andrei332809 27 September 2012 11: 03
    +8
    even if after Libya not everyone saw the grin of democracy, now there are almost no "blind" people left.
  5. Syrdon
    Syrdon 27 September 2012 11: 09
    +11
    With all my heart I wish Bashar to strangle all the geeks, and Russia to stand her ground to the end! And even more, create a full base in Tartus! Libya's shame should not be repeated!
    1. Isr
      Isr 27 September 2012 15: 04
      -13
      Quote: Syrdon
      With all my heart I wish Bashar to strangle all the geeks

      Geeks are Sunnis, most of the country.
      Quote: Syrdon
      create a full base in Tartus

      Give part of its territory to a foreign state. Is that how you treat them? Well, you give advice.
      1. Nick
        Nick 27 September 2012 23: 22
        +1
        Quote: Isr
        Give part of its territory to a foreign state

        In fact, the territory remains Syrian and is leased by Russia.
      2. Che
        Che 28 September 2012 08: 27
        +2
        Isr,
        Amer return Guantanamo Cuba. Suck the sire. The king is naked.
      3. OSTAP BENDER
        OSTAP BENDER 28 September 2012 14: 05
        +2
        Geeks are Zionists, most Jewish people, on this site!
  6. Moga
    Moga 27 September 2012 11: 19
    +5
    I think that everything will be fine!
  7. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 27 September 2012 11: 24
    +6
    Everything that is reflected by 90% corresponds to my views ... The article is correct. I evaluate it as + .....
  8. leon-iv
    leon-iv 27 September 2012 11: 45
    +6
    And I remember someone with foam at the mouth arguing that PMCs are not needed?
    And we must process Salafi biomass at our place in the Caucasus.
  9. anfreezer
    anfreezer 27 September 2012 11: 46
    +5
    As for the CSTO or the SCO, of course, it has gone too far (for now) .... And the point is not even that our Armed Forces still need more than one year to enter into local conflicts without looking, and in this case we will have to do it. At the moment, we are better able to cope with a global war, due to the imbalance in the state of strategic nuclear forces and general-purpose forces (God forbid, of course). This is not the Caucasus, and we are not doing so well with the mobility of troops ... This is not an exercise like "Vostok-2010", when the Armed Forces transferred several brigades from the west to the east of the country, a number of equipment ... (we will still scrap the escort ships) does not allow yet. The enemy will not fight us in the way that is convenient for us (namely, according to this scenario, the Vostok-2010 exercises took place). He will fight the way it suits him. So, darling, wait at least the Mistrals wink And as for the supply of weapons, the help of military advisers, support at the diplomatic level, so please always, as they say, take, use, help, than we can .... Well, what we are soul and heart together with the Syrian people is do not go to a fortuneteller!
  10. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 27 September 2012 11: 48
    +5
    It is time for Russia to end with defensive events, real things are needed that are adequate to the attacks of the enemies ... Not a single war was won by the defense.
  11. Apollo
    Apollo 27 September 2012 12: 03
    +8
    Here is another good imfa good

    Russia will not miss the UN Security Council resolution on Syria, providing for sanctions

    MOSCOW, 26 September. The new UN Security Council resolution on Syria is not currently a priority in the work to resolve the Syrian conflict. This was stated by Permanent Representative to the UN Vitaly Churkin.
    According to him, the resolution is "a priority for establishing the work of the UN Special Representative for Syria in Russia, for establishing a dialogue between the parties on the basis of the Geneva accords, which remains on the negotiating table in the form in which it was agreed on June 30."
    Churkin emphasized that Russia cannot miss the UN Security Council resolution on Syria under Chapter VII of the UN Charter, which provides for sanctions, the online media reports.
    As reported, the UN Security Council on Wednesday will host a meeting on "Peace and security in the Middle East." According to analysts, the main focus of this meeting will be on the Syrian problem, given the difficult situation that is now developing around Syria.
    According to experts, the meeting will not be easy due to sharp disagreements on the Syrian settlement between Russia and China, on the one hand, and the United States, Britain and France, on the other. Although some Russian diplomats hope they can reach a consensus, observers expect intense debate. The Syrian issue will also be seriously discussed at a meeting with UN / LAS Special Representative Lahdar Brahimi.
    Recall that on July 19, Russia and China blocked the adoption of a Western draft resolution on Syria in the UN Security Council with the threat of sanctions. In addition to two votes against, the draft resolution received 11 votes in favor, two participants abstained. In addition, the Russian Federation withdrew its draft resolution from the vote in the UN Security Council - with a proposal to extend the mandate of observers for three months in the hope of a political process.
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2012/09/26/1039166.html
    1. gas
      gas 27 September 2012 14: 38
      +4
      History has shown that the United States listens to the UN Security Council only when it needs to. And this is not a victory. But the S-300 divisions in Syria and Iran would be more effective than the resolutions.
    2. Isr
      Isr 27 September 2012 15: 12
      -7
      Emir of Qatar urged Arabs to "deal" with Syria, without waiting for UN action
      The Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, is convinced that the Arab countries must intervene and stop the civil war in Syria, since the Syrian crisis could not be solved through the UN Security Council.
      He made this statement in a speech at the 67th session of the UN General Assembly in New York. The emir’s speech in Arabic was translated by a translator.
      "The Security Council failed to work out an effective position," the emir said. "Based on this, I believe the Arab countries should intervene in the situation, following their national, humanitarian, political and military duty, and do everything necessary to stop the bloodshed in Syria." ...
      He recalled that there was already a similar precedent when Arab troops intervened in the civil war in Lebanon in the mid-seventies of the last century, and this step "was effective and useful." Sheikh Hamad also called on all countries to provide all kinds of support to the Syrian rebels.
      Representatives of the Western powers have made it clear that they are opposed to direct intervention in the Syrian crisis, and that the UN Security Council will not accept sanctions against the will of Russia and China.
      1. Che
        Che 28 September 2012 08: 28
        +3
        Isr,
        Your emir amerskoy rat count in one place does not hurt.
  12. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 27 September 2012 12: 28
    +3
    yes, I hope Syria will become a turning point, and the whole world will cease to endure the antics of the main feast rebels, whose names I do not want to write, did not deserve ... they used to think we were the axis of evil, now everything has changed completely ...
  13. bask
    bask 27 September 2012 12: 45
    +3
    All the measures listed in the article of Russia must be urgently taken. Syria will win Russia's authority in the world will increase dramatically. This is a panic fear of the United States. The question is why these measures are not taken? The answer in Russia is the strongest, oligarchic lobby, but why does the president listen to them ??? ? No answers yet.
  14. Beck
    Beck 27 September 2012 12: 53
    -11
    In my opinion, not everything is so adequate. Attacks cannot be avoided, but still.

    What are the free elections in Syria under the father and son Assad? It’s like free elections to the USSR general secretaries. 99% until death.

    Journalistic reception of insincere journalists - If the West nevertheless steps over the DOUBLE veto. In this case, there is no difference. One veto, double or ten. And one veto has the same power as a ten. This is for the uneducated reader.

    The journalist is scared to write about the possibility of the physical destruction of Assad. Well, this non-Russian uncle is closest to all her relatives. The destruction of thousands of people is not so scary. And the world community has an opportunity to stop all killings. But Assad himself has the easiest opportunity. Call and hold FREE elections. The flag will also win him. Do not win, let resign. He has unmeasured money. So no, because of the preservation of illegitimate power, he wants to shoot.

    It would be easy for Assad to cope with the rebels if the West did not bother him. In addition to moral support and financing by the Arab countries, the rebels have nothing. Assad has a state machine, army, police, and all institutions of power. And so that he can’t cope, as the journalist writes, with a handful of dissenters. He has been fighting against his own people for more than 1,5 years.

    The journalist and others like her do not look beyond their own nose. Syria is the last moment so that Russia can maintain at least some influence in the Arab world that it inherited from the USSR. More likely that Assad will fall. Yesterday, at a UN session, the representative of Qatar, seeing the helplessness of the Security Council, called for decisive action on the Syrian issue, the League of Arab Countries. LAS is legitimate in its own way. Neither the United States nor Russia are members of the Arab League. And the Arab League can decide on military intervention, somehow bypassing the UN (I don’t know for sure, therefore I’m not sure). But in any case, even if Assad falls, and goes to this without external interference, then what, to what INFLUENCE of Russia in the Arab world will come to an end. If Russia ceases to support Assad, then no influence will remain in the Arab world.
    1. Leisure
      Leisure 27 September 2012 13: 08
      +1
      Scared a hedgehog with a bare backside. We will be friends with Israel.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 27 September 2012 13: 26
        +1
        Quote: Lazer

        Scared a hedgehog with a bare backside. We will be friends with Israel.

        They are friends for a long time and successfully.
        1. Beck
          Beck 27 September 2012 13: 32
          +1
          The Baltic.

          Thanks for any support.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 27 September 2012 13: 53
            -1
            Quote: Beck


            Beck (1) Today, 13:32 pm ↑ new 0 
            The Baltic.

            Thanks for any support.

            Beck, I just really appreciate the situation without shouting cheers, I look at you too. The fate of Syria is largely resolved, the fall is a matter of time. But there is one moment how it falls, a lot depends on it too. There are already several options, I’ll briefly list them : intervention is if quickly, they get inside from inside, slower, but cheaper, a coup with the assassination of a leader and the like. What will not be left alone does not raise doubts for anyone, it takes too long there.
            1. Beck
              Beck 27 September 2012 14: 03
              +1
              The Baltic.

              The fact that we will have different views on different things is natural. For that and the site, for that and the debate. If everyone here were my views then what kind of boredom would be. Then I would immediately leave the site. Imagine all YES and without exciting breath.
          2. Beck
            Beck 27 September 2012 15: 12
            +1
            Minus this everyone’s business, this is sovereign right. Just explain.

            I told the man - Thank you. Minus for that, for the word, for the wrong way of saying thanks, for the epaulette, for the empty avatar?
    2. Rezun
      Rezun 27 September 2012 13: 38
      +7
      Assad has only one way to end the bloodshed - to clean out all this "guard" of terrorism in his country. Moreover, this is done on legal grounds.
      Imagine another result of this confrontation - where will al-Qaeda turn, strengthened, moreover, by the Syrian "oppositionists"?
      Now about the elections. Do you remember the "pregnant" boy on the "March of Millions"? That's it ... Now, before the end of the confrontation, any elections in Syria are a concession; because the anti-Syrian coalition is ready to applaud only those elections that will lead to the power of outright "thugs"!
      By and large, Assad was the first to start a difficult, dangerous, sometimes very unsightly "job" ...The stakes are very great, the life of the Syrians!
      1. Beck
        Beck 27 September 2012 13: 58
        -8
        Rezun or the White Sea Canal. They say the same thing.

        When there were bloody clashes in Libya, less bloody in Tunisia, Egypt, here on the site there were also many shouts about al-Qaeda. So what? Where is Kaeda in these countries? There is none. Liberals won the free elections in Libya, moderate Islamists in Tunisia and Egypt.

        Well, let them live as they choose, who now intervenes. Islamic extremists attacked the Egyptian border post. The Mursi government arrested the attackers and sentenced 17 to death. Paramilitary extremists in Libya killed the American ambassador. The Libyan government has disarmed and liquidated the entire organization. During the siege of the American embassy in Egypt, some Orthodox tore the Bible. Themis of Egypt brought an extremist to criminal liability for insulting Christianity.

        Assad has no legal grounds. Power was inherited by his father, dictator Hafez Assad.

        Why did the people of Russia oppose the dictatorial power of the communists? Because the Russians are tired of the 70-year-old dictatorship. The Syrians also do not want a continuation of the 40 year dictatorship.
        1. Che
          Che 28 September 2012 09: 03
          +2
          Beck,
          The people of Russia did not speak out against the communists. Everything was organized by amers for the destruction of the USSR. EBN is undoubtedly a dictator on the bayonets of amers came to power.
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 September 2012 09: 12
            -3
            Quote: Che
            The people of Russia did not speak out against the communists


            Well, what nonsense. Thousands of demonstrations across the country against the bored and rotten regime of the Communists. And if the people did not speak out against the communists, then why didn’t they defend the communist system?
    3. 1tankist
      1tankist 27 September 2012 13: 55
      +5
      Quote: Beck
      It would be easy for Assad to cope with the rebels if the West did not bother him. In addition to moral support and financing by the Arab countries, the rebels have nothing.


      Beck, you are wrong. The bandits have everything: support, and money, and heavy weapons, and hospitals in Turkey, and advisers to the United States and NATO, and camps where you can learn mine explosives or upgrade your skills.
      Regarding the influence of Russia, it is only thanks to him that Syria is still holding on. If pressure on Syria begins to increase, then perhaps support from Russia will be not only diplomatic, but also military. So those who want to warm their hands on someone else’s grief should take care of their backside.
      1. Beck
        Beck 27 September 2012 14: 11
        -9
        To the tankman. I don’t know for sure. Either mech.vodu, or gunner, or commander. I myself am a tank commander.

        When they started there was nothing. Assad had everything and he could not cope, this is the argument that there are not a bunch of terrorists, but the people. Then of course they helped. Russia also helped South Ossetia.

        About the influence. Silently Russia supported both Gaddafi and Mubarak where now the influence of Russia on these countries, and in the whole Arab region. Now, if Russia now refuses to support not Syria, but Assad, then what kind of influence Russia will have in the Arab world.
        1. 1tankist
          1tankist 27 September 2012 14: 40
          +11
          Quote: Beck
          Now, if Russia now refuses to support not Syria, but Assad, then what kind of influence Russia will have in the Arab world.


          Beck, you are wrong again. When it all began, there was no war either. The 5th column, with the support of the United States, was unable to carry out a color revolution in Syria, following the example of other countries. Now the United States has switched to plan "B", bandit formations and terrorist acts. Everything is the same as in other countries.
          Gaddafi surrendered, this is a fact, I consider it a shame. So, in order not to commit a shameful act again, we must support Syria. Syria will stand, let us stop the bloody tread of "democracy".
          But I understand that talking with you on this topic is useless, since you have chosen the side of "Big Brother", which is famous for its bloodthirstiness, adherence to freedom to unleash conflicts around the world, as well as "democratic" bombing. Of course, this is all for the good of ordinary citizens, but they do not understand the unreasonable, perish and hate their "saviors"
          Beck, I chose the other side. I chose the side of the Syrian people and their legally elected government, the side of the gangs and its sponsors is an enemy for me.
          1. Beck
            Beck 27 September 2012 14: 57
            -8
            To the tankman.

            What a 5 column. Half a year in Syria there were peaceful demonstrations with the main demand for free elections. Why would Assad not conduct them. No, he began to shoot people. The Syrians are tired of dying without a response.

            Gaddafi ... Why did you cling to him. He is that kind, old grandfather. At one time he made a military coup seized power. Established a personal dictatorship, destroyed those who disagree with him. By these criteria, Stalin is also a good, old grandfather and why is he being defamed for killing millions. To have pity on him and return him to the mausoleum.

            You would talk to me if you knew that I personally ordered the destruction of a civilian plane in which three hundred innocent human souls died. You would talk to me if I called for the destruction of the white race.

            Choose either side the right of everyone. But you yourself will see if Assad’s regime falls, that the Syrian people will live just like the Tunisian, Egyptian, Libyan peoples live now.
            1. 1tankist
              1tankist 27 September 2012 15: 10
              +9
              Beck, the argument is useless. We both understand that everyone will defend their point of view. I’ll say that it’s a lie to attack. If I recall the reforms that Assad began to carry out, then you will also say that this is a lie on my part. We are not children, and we understand all this very well.

              I personally wish the Syrian people the fate of the Syrian people, and not the fate of the peoples of the accomplished revolutions. The Syrian people, not the gangs, should decide which way to go on. And if the USA and NATO countries start aggression against the Syrian people, then I am for military assistance to the Syrian people from Russia, China, Iran and other countries friendly to the Syrian people.
              1. Beck
                Beck 27 September 2012 15: 17
                +1
                To the tankman.

                I feel that way too. Thanks for the discussion, for the conversation.

                Although thanks are not so simple. Look at the top. I said thanks to one person. They put a minus for this. Their affair is, but ridiculous.
        2. Che
          Che 28 September 2012 09: 08
          +2
          b] Beck,
          To preserve its reputation, Russia must provide Syria with massive assistance in the fight against Nata and their rats. No other is given. Otherwise in the back seat.
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 September 2012 09: 32
            -3
            Quote: Che
            To preserve its reputation, Russia must provide Syria with massive assistance in the fight against Nata and their rats. No other is given. Otherwise in the back seat.


            What is the reputation? What without Assad the reputation of Russia will fall below the plinth?

            As far as we know, not a single NATO soldier is in Syria. Syrian rebels are fighting there.

            According to your logic, Russia has been to the "back seat" several times. The ambassador of Tunisia, after Libya, after Egypt. And now there again. ABSURD you assert.

            If personally. You, what would be very bad if a non-Russian uncle in a non-Russian country is deprived of the throne? What is your health shaken?

            If not in person. Russia will lose the remnants of its influence in the Arab world if it fully supports the regime in Syria. She lost most of her influence when she silently supported the Rechimas in Libya and Egypt. Now Libyans and Egyptians will not invite Russian firms to any economic projects.
            1. Che
              Che 28 September 2012 10: 06
              +2
              Beck,
              They hadn’t invited much before. We decided to bend to the west - the result is a complete collapse of the state and the death of the people.
              1. Beck
                Beck 28 September 2012 10: 25
                -1
                Quote: Che
                They hadn’t invited much before. We decided to bend to the west - the result is a complete collapse of the state and the death of the people.



                Yes, some supplies of weapons were worth it. Now the Arab world will not buy Russian weapons. They will buy western if they buy expensive in China.

                It is impossible to count how many billions are now and how many billions are in the future.

                Where do you see the collapse of the state in Tunisia, in Libya, in Egypt. And Syria will not fall apart.
            2. Sandov
              Sandov 28 September 2012 18: 19
              0
              Beck,
              You are wrong - the special forces of Naglobrites and Gali roosters are already there. Yes, and the Turks are active.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 28 September 2012 18: 22
                +2
                Quote: Sandov
                You are wrong - the special forces of Naglobrites and Gali roosters are already there. Yes, and the Turks are active.

                as far as I know there special forces only from the Arab countries !!
                Anglobrites are unlikely to take a chance there now !!
                What for??
                At the last stage, it can also connect !!
              2. Beck
                Beck 29 September 2012 08: 58
                -1
                Sadov.

                Explain, please. What do you care about non-Russian uncle Assad? What is he to you godfather, matchmaker, brother? He is a civilized, popularly elected president. He received power from his father, who also took power by a coup. All the elections held by Assad are elections like the USSR 99% for the Communists.

                He is that legitimate president as Öland, as the civilian presidents of developed countries. He shoots at his people. The gangs of marauders, 1,5 ex-imperialists cannot fight and suffer thousands of losses. These gangs would end long ago. This people acts and the world community helps him with money and weapons. The same Makar can now whitewash Hitler, Pinochet, Mussolini.

                Then the USSR did not have to send military equipment to Spain to fight against Franco. It was not necessary to create inter-brigades to fight against the Spanish fshists. By supporting Assad, Russia is losing its last influence in the Arab world.

                Well, what are you up to the non-Russian uncle who shoots his people.
                1. Sandov
                  Sandov 1 October 2012 20: 41
                  0
                  Beck,
                  Then the USSR did not have to send military equipment to Spain to fight against Franco. It was not necessary to create inter-brigades to fight against the Spanish fshists. By supporting Assad, Russia is losing its last influence in the Arab world.

                  Yes, there are absolutely different things, you can’t even compare. Well, what Assad dictator? What protects the independence of the country is wonderful and worthy of a man. Mercenaries from all over the Middle East are shooting there more. Yes, and Nata noticed. Well, radicalism does not need ordinary people. Amers certainly benefit from chaos.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 1 October 2012 21: 07
                    0
                    It’s ridiculous. The usual such a Middle Eastern dictator. With prisons, shootings of demonstrations and so on. Opponents are better? Unlikely. But don’t make a good fluffy bear out of Assad - he’s not like that
    4. Isr
      Isr 27 September 2012 15: 18
      -13
      What are the free elections in Syria under the father and son Assad?
      100% right. All these articles and discussions are as if from a parallel world. This is because the Russians are fed with distorted information such Natella Speransky.
      1. Beck
        Beck 27 September 2012 15: 25
        -6
        Isra.

        I agree. And some part accepts such information without its own analysis of the history of the issue and the processes taking place today.
        1. Rezun
          Rezun 27 September 2012 15: 52
          +5
          BEKU
          My personal opinion is that Syria is needed as a bridgehead for an attack on Iran.
          Gaddafi was removed to deprive the anti-American forces of financial support. Egypt was "deployed" to secure the rear.
          By the way, the question is, what does Assad rest on? Support for Russia and China is fine; but people should shoot from automatic weapons, there should also be people behind the arms of aircraft, aircraft, people are also disassembling the ruins and treating the wounded ...
          A country split is scary!
          1. Beck
            Beck 27 September 2012 16: 26
            -8
            Quote: Rezun
            My personal opinion is that Syria is needed as a bridgehead for an attack on Iran.


            The West has no such task. Tasks to prevent Iran from nuclear weapons. Syria is not needed for this. The bridgehead is aircraft carriers and aircraft. Bombed Iran’s nuclear infrastructure and all. And no one is going to send troops into Iran. And for aircraft carriers, the land rear is not needed.
            1. Rezun
              Rezun 27 September 2012 17: 22
              +1
              Beck
              I’m not minus you, it’s interesting and instructive with you.
              But - "they" will not give up the mopping-up. Will they bomb it? It is problematic that Iran has been preparing for this option since the times of Iraq.
              Earlier, the Americans developed a strategy of economic war, but homo sapiens learns on the move, they had to return to the old methods. It was the Americans who created the current situation - after all, they are not outraged by the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel? The punishment of the Americans is that having chosen the direction, they throw everything there forces and resources. That is why there is "confusion and vacillation" in their policies.
              In exact accordance with your ideas, the United States and the West had the opportunity to act through the UN, IAEA, etc. But no - it was necessary to put Iran on its "knees", and Iran did not get up ... Personally, this situation reminded me of the USSR at the end 20s.
              The United States cannot understand that the era of a unipolar world has flickered and gone.
              1. Beck
                Beck 27 September 2012 17: 44
                -5
                Reason.

                Well, in general, something with which I disagree can be minus only internally justified. I said "thank you" to the man at the top, nothing else - minus, here there is no justification.

                Respected. The story of Israel is ancient. At the time of its formation in 1948, there were about 2 million Jews in Israel. And the first began the 40 million surrounding Arabs. They wanted to push the Jews into the sea. Israel somehow fought back. And in 1973, when Israel was attacked from two sides by the armies of Egypt and Syria, Israel was on the verge of its existence. But fought back. Jews forced Suez and their tanks entered the highway leading to Cairo. And other Israeli tanks stopped 34 km from Damascus. Israel stopped offensive action at the request of the UN.

                So Israel created the atomic bomb, although there is no official data on this, but most likely the Jews have it.

                Now compare. Not a single Israeli prime minister has ever said that it is necessary to destroy, wipe Egypt or Syria, Jordan or Lebanon off the face of the earth. Not a single Jewish prime minister said that the Arab people should be destroyed. In Israel itself there is a sufficient layer of Arab citizens. All the leaders of orthodox and extremists only speak of the destruction of the state of Israel from the face of the earth and the physical extermination of Jews. Ahmadi Nejad has repeatedly stated this. And the statements of officials are official. It's not - Vanka blurted out drunk.

                That is why the world community does not want Iran to have nuclear weapons. Sent by the IAEA. Iran has shown something. Now the commission does not let go.

                Comparison Muslim Pakistan also has nuclear weapons. And no one blathers, everyone is silent. Because the leadership of Pakistan has never stated that it will destroy a state or destroy any people. Or establish a NEW ISLAMIC ORDER in the world, as stated by the Ayatollahs. Among other things, it is, after all, that the whole world must be cut off.
                1. Rezun
                  Rezun 27 September 2012 18: 20
                  +2
                  Beck
                  The IAEA commissions bent in all directions - and they themselves disavowed their status. And the beginning was laid by Israel’s fear of losing its advantage in nuclear weapons.
                  The process of confrontation - and a successful confrontation (this is in relation to Iran) - gives rise to self-confidence, which is tested and leveled out through ideological, economic "skirmishes" and direct armed conflicts.
                  As an illustration, I can recommend Venezuela.
                  No matter how hackneyed it may be, there is a stronger one for the "strong".
                  Returning to the beginning of our controversy, I also want to note that the imposed changes in the life of the country (you mentioned the USSR) should be supported all society. In 91, the GKChP was absolutely legitimate for me. And, glory to this GKChP, that he did not give the order ... Otherwise, we would have "Syria." And, by the way, remember who supported the GKChP?
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 27 September 2012 18: 35
                    0
                    Reason.

                    Israel does not need any advantage. He would not have been touched, and he would not have lifted himself. Nuclear weapons of Israel as a guarantee of non-aggression on it. Nuclear weapons of Iran is a club where the ayatollahs want to gouge the entire Middle East. This is not only Israel. This is the vast majority of Arabs as Sunnis. Iranians are Shiites. And the massacre between the Sunnis and Shiites has been going on since the 8th century, when they killed the righteous caliph Ali, whom the Shiites revered.

                    In Iraq, bombings with massive casualties all the time. So the vast majority of these explosions is a confrontation between Sunnis and Shiites. It’s just that the 21st century replaced knives with explosives in their hands. And now, what to give them nuclear weapons.
                    1. Rezun
                      Rezun 27 September 2012 18: 52
                      +1
                      Becku The fact of the matter is that ten years ago EVERYTHING could be kept under control, but not now. Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria - ALL the rules have been violated 100500 times! Moreover, violated by the same side! A LOT of precedents has been built - if you can’t, but really want to, then you can!
                  2. Karish
                    Karish 27 September 2012 18: 36
                    -5
                    Quote: Rezun
                    As an illustration, I can recommend Venezuela.

                    It is not clear what exactly you meant. Expand the answer for Venezuela.
                    Quote: Rezun
                    imposed changes in the life of the country (you mentioned the USSR) should be supported

                    in this case, what do you think? The October Revolution was good or not. And how much was supported by the whole society?
                    I could also mention the monetary reforms of 1947, 1961.
                    Quote: Rezun
                    In the 91st, for me, the GKChP was absolutely legitimate

                    GKChP could not be legitimate a priori. if only because in the USSR, though inflated, there was an elective system.
                    Quote: Rezun
                    And the beginning was laid by Israel’s fear of losing its advantage in nuclear weapons.

                    Answer a simple question, to you, as a citizen of Russia, with which country with nuclear weapons it is safer to live. With Israel or Iran.
                    1. Rezun
                      Rezun 27 September 2012 19: 23
                      +3
                      Karish
                      1. Venezuela
                      Chavez re-equips the Armed Forces, develops bilateral relations with Russia, China; pursues an anti-American policy;
                      2. The Great October Socialist Revolution-abstain (born much later)
                      Monetary reforms - fathers-mothers, grandfathers-grandmothers - did not experience tragedies (according to them). Yes, and I was not hurt, they were dressed-shod, fed.
                      3.GKChP-argue can endlessly--State of emergency
                      4. I would have been much more comfortable living as a citizen of the USSR; I would not have been worried about my great-grandchildren.
                      1. Karish
                        Karish 27 September 2012 19: 42
                        -5
                        Quote: Rezun
                        Venezuela
                        Chavez re-equips the Armed Forces, develops bilateral relations with Russia, China; pursues an anti-American policy;

                        So what ? I didn’t understand the answer. Venezuela successfully confronts America. Look at inflation and crime rates in this country - the data is open.
                        Your comment sounded
                        Quote: Rezun
                        Returning to the beginning of our controversy, I also want to note that the imposed changes in the life of the country (you mentioned the USSR) should be supported by the whole society

                        My question
                        Quote: Rezun
                        in this case, what do you think? The October Revolution was good or not. And how much was supported by the whole society?
                        I could also mention the monetary reforms of 1947, 1961.

                        Your answer - I don’t know, I didn’t live at the time, as it didn’t roll. I think at least you heard about the civil war. And you never answered whether the October Revolution (according to your opinion) was for the good or the detriment of Russia
                        Quote: Rezun
                        GKChP-argue can endlessly - Extraordinary
                        position

                        There is nothing to argue, an attempted coup with the overthrow of the country's legitimate leader.
                        The question - the overthrow of Salvador Allende - is a coup or the same state of emergency. Or the seizure of power by Assad (father), Nasser, Saddam, Colonels in Greece, the Franco, Pinochet, Peron regime - continue or stop?
                        Quote: Rezun
                        I would have been much more comfortable living as a citizen of the USSR; I would not have been worried about my great-grandchildren.

                        There is no such country, Many components of this state hate each other with fierce hatred, therefore it will not be anymore.
                      2. Rezun
                        Rezun 27 September 2012 20: 36
                        +2
                        Karish
                        1. In my opinion, in Venezuela there is no one hundred percent support for the Chavez course. The anti-American orientation of Chavez’s policy narrows the field of maneuver and puts this very policy at great risk. Since you mentioned Chile, this is exactly what I fear. But, I am sincerely on the side of Chavez.
                        2. The October Revolution led to the Civil War - This is not a blessing. Monetary reform is an objective given.
                        3.GKChP.
                        The head of the country withdrew from the performance of his duties!
                        A massive economic sabotage was carried out against the USSR! It was State of emergency.
                        From the list you quoted, the USSR directly participated only in Spain. In all these events, their qualifications are a matter of ideology. And as for the State Emergency Committee, I expressed my point of view and I don’t impose it on you, and I don’t accept yours.
                        4. Well, what about the hatred? You are in a hurry; now I don’t hate you.
                        And about Iran, Israel ... Wallpaper each other, one uncle scares, the other doomsday.

                        I read your answer about localization, what can I say? Plus, sir ...
                      3. smile
                        smile 28 September 2012 04: 24
                        +1
                        Rezun

                        Forgive me, but the legal power was overthrown in February 17th, by July 17 in Russia more than three thousand riots ... with blood ... is this not a civil war .... The Bolsheviks took power like a drunken woman lying under a fence, as a colleague said under the nickname Winter .... and then they declared war, a little later .... but not them! ..... be correct, huh?
                      4. Rezun
                        Rezun 28 September 2012 06: 08
                        +1
                        Good day, smile
                        They asked me about my personal attitude to the Great October Socialist Revolution, and I expressed it. What happened was what society and the country led to, and this event determined our future history. until the last kept in the Crimea.
                        We will not change anything, it WAS. And I do not know how to "dance on coffins" - but you and I must draw conclusions, take into account the consequences. The development of society must be evolutionary.
                      5. Karish
                        Karish 28 September 2012 10: 57
                        0
                        Quote: Rezun
                        What happened is what society and the country have led-and

                        Rezun, please finish the sentence, who brought? Your understanding of the term * Revolutionary situation *
                        Quote: Rezun
                        We're not changing anything anymore - IT WAS

                        Why, we can draw at least conclusions from this

                        Quote: Rezun
                        You must draw conclusions, consider the consequences

                        This is what I do, unlike you. The recognition of errors that happen is one of the positive processes for drawing conclusions.

                        Quote: Rezun
                        . The development of society must be evolutionary.

                        It is obliged to be it (if you correctly understand the meaning of the word - evolution)
                        because if society does not evolve, it degrades
                        Best regards hi
                      6. Rezun
                        Rezun 28 September 2012 19: 06
                        +1
                        All the best, Karish

                        1. In this case, power is a monarchy! Unfortunately, this happens. "Nature is resting ..." etc.
                        2. And what did I talk about above?
                        3. Our conclusions differ "a little" due to differences in the field of ideology. You may or may not respect me, but your mom and dad laid in you their vision of the world, which they inherited from their parents. Why should I question the ideals of my parents and my ancestors?
                        4. I agree. I risk causing your displeasure, but Brezhnev was the real "evolutionary". Until now, he has not been truly appreciated.
                      7. Karish
                        Karish 29 September 2012 10: 24
                        0
                        Quote: Rezun
                        In this case, power is a monarchy! Unfortunately, this happens. "Nature is resting ..." etc.

                        Definition of a revolutionary situation
                        The lower classes do not want to live in the old way; the upper classes cannot rule in the new.
                        Quote: Rezun
                        but your dad-mom laid in you his vision of the world, which they inherited from their parents

                        If everything was so simple. we would still dig the earth with a digging stick and live at the level of primitive man, progress and development are very slightly related to the vision of the world inherited from our parents.
                        Quote: Rezun
                        Why should I question the ideals of my parents and my ancestors?

                        You may or may not - this is your own business. Me yes. Because the right to make a mistake is with everyone, and with grandfathers and with parents, we have the same thing.
                        Quote: Rezun
                        I agree. I risk causing your displeasure, but Brezhnev was the real "evolutionary". Until now, he has not been truly appreciated.

                        Haha, did you live in his time? The only thing that had evolved from him in the country was hooked on an oil needle.
                      8. Rezun
                        Rezun 29 September 2012 16: 59
                        0
                        the tops cannot rule in a new way.

                        Actually, the simultaneous presence of these factors is necessary, isn't it? The "top" always has an advantage somehow: the administrative system.
                        progress and development are very slightly related to the vision of the world

                        Strange, I thought that dad and mom taught me to love my homeland, my family
                        everyone has the right to make a mistake

                        I do not encroach on your rights, but tricky questions such as: and how to determine whether there was a mistake?
                        You lived in his time

                        And he lived, and studied, and worked, and served, and built a family, and raised children, you see how much he managed.
                      9. Sandov
                        Sandov 1 October 2012 20: 48
                        0
                        Rezun,
                        In almost everything you are right. Gorbachev did not behave well then. Well, let a bad person sit in London.
                      10. elenagromova
                        elenagromova 28 September 2012 02: 39
                        +4
                        Just do not compare Pinochet and Assad. Allende and Assad are much closer to each other ideologically, as well as the desire to make their people good.
                      11. Che
                        Che 28 September 2012 08: 41
                        +2
                        elenagromova,
                        I agree with you completely. Only fate I wish him another. Only victory over criminals.
                      12. Karish
                        Karish 28 September 2012 11: 05
                        -1
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        Allende and Assad are much closer to each other ideologically, as well as the desire to do good to their people.

                        Elena, I get the impression that either the articles are not yours, or someone writes comments for you. in articles there is a common axis and some (even if yours, but evidence base), judging by the children's answer about Assad and Allende, let me ask how they are ideologically close
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        as well as the desire to do good to his people.

                        All leaders and leaders beat their heels in the chest and convince themselves that they are striving to do good for their people, starting from Putin, Obama, Assad and ending with Hitler and the Leaders of Tutsi (Rwanda) who have chopped down a million Hutus in a month.
                        What kind of kindergarten answers do you have Elena, where is the elementary argumentation?
                        Sincerely, Alexander . Israel hi
                      13. elenagromova
                        elenagromova 28 September 2012 14: 55
                        0
                        Allende Head Socialist party of chile.
                        Assad - Party Arabic Socialist Renaissance.
                        That same idea, so hated by the States
                      14. Karish
                        Karish 28 September 2012 15: 36
                        0
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        Allende is the leader of the Socialist Party of Chile.
                        Assad - Party of the Arab Socialist Renaissance.


                        Here I am about the same. Who writes articles or comments for you. ? The parallel between the two parties, only by name. Respect, for such an opus. Hitler had the same party called the National Socialist and, now. This puts her on a par with which party? National Christian or Social Democratic.?
                        Elena, well, first class, by golly.
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        That same idea, so hated by the States

                        I'm not talking about the Arab regimes, but the main enemy of Syria in Europe is France, which party is in power? Socialist. Two to you, Elena. Learn mate part laughing
                      15. elenagromova
                        elenagromova 28 September 2012 16: 22
                        0
                        Many of the socialists and communists of Europe completely changed the idea and went under American imperialism. This has happened since the Cold War. By the way, I mentioned this in a neighboring article that it’s a shame when one socialist calls for the bombing of another.
                      16. Karish
                        Karish 29 September 2012 10: 40
                        -1
                        [quote = elenagromova] Many socialists and communists in Europe completely betrayed the idea and fell under American imperialism [/ quote]
                        Elena, sometimes it's better to chew than talk. Ha. crying
                        [quote = elenagromova] This, by the way, I mentioned in a neighboring article that it is a shame when one socialist calls for the bombing of another. [/ quote]
                        [Quote]Syrian Communist Party
                        In 1986, disputes in party leadership between Youssef Faisal and Khaled Baghdash regarding the party’s attitude towards perestroika in the USSR led to a split in the party. Each of the factions for a long time acted under the name "Communist Party of Syria", later the historical name was left to the Bakdash party, and the Faisal party became known as the Syrian Communist Party (united [/ quote
                        ] - Headquarters in Beirut, tell me why not in Syria?
                        [Quote]Iraqi Communist Party
                        The Ba'ath Party government that came to power in July 1968 with an updated leadership freed the Communists from prison, and cooperation was established between the IKP and Ba'ath on the establishment of the Progressive National Patriotic Front of Iraq. In May 1972, 2 representatives of the IKP were formally included in the government, although the Communist Party was still in an informal position. However, the collaboration was short-lived: after the resumption of repression in 1977-1978 against the communists in April 1979, the communist ministers left the government, the Communist Party ceased its participation in the National Front. In May 1979, the leadership of the IKP decided to withdraw from the PNPF and move to an illegal position. Using the demand of the Communists to lift the state of emergency in the country and hold elections for the National Assembly, the Council of the Revolutionary Command of Iraq banned the activities of the IKP in mass organizations. In the same month, more than 30 Communists and their supporters were accused by S. Hussein of betraying the Iraqi revolution and creating their own cells in the army and were executed. The leaders of the Communist Party left the country. With the defeat of the IKP in Iraq, a one-party system is established with the monopoly of the Ba'athist party [/ Quote]
                        Note Elena, the same Ba'athist Party of Communists spread rot (to remind again which party in Syria, is it not Ba'ath by chance?)

                        [Quote]Iranian People's Party
                        (NPI; Hezbe Tudeye Iran, Tude)
                        established in October 1941. Is the successor and continuer of the Iranian Communist Party [/ quote]

                        Well, there’s not a damn thing left from her
                        Why are they so with Elena's friends, they received money from the CPSU, and the Communist brothers in their country were spread rot? And you say socialists, do not go in cycles in the name. laughing Learn and improve. Do you want to prepare you a list of literature for basic knowledge? . Respectfully and always happy to help Alexander hi
                      17. Beck
                        Beck 28 September 2012 16: 23
                        -1
                        Yes. Rashlessly Gromova went to the site. Of course, a stormy URA and a loud YES she received. But it turned out to be helpless in a serious dispute, in the absence of strong arguments, inability to compare facts, to compare historical moments. And in some cases, consciously or not, to retouch obvious circumstances.

                        Purely Komsomol-executive mentality. The party said it was necessary. Komsomol replied - there is.
                      18. elenagromova
                        elenagromova 28 September 2012 16: 28
                        0
                        And yet, it’s not for nothing that many in Latin America support Syria and its leadership. Especially Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia.
                      19. Beck
                        Beck 28 September 2012 16: 39
                        +1
                        In all these countries, the situation is turbulent and the leadership of these countries needs a precedent for its possible adoption at home.
                      20. Beck
                        Beck 28 September 2012 15: 53
                        -1
                        Allende was chosen in free and fair elections.

                        Assad inherited power from his father.

                        And any tyrant can imagine himself and God Almighty.
                      21. elenagromova
                        elenagromova 28 September 2012 16: 23
                        +1
                        A hundred times spoken and negotiated. In Syria, there is no mechanism for transferring power from father to son. There were elections. And twice. And twice the people came to the polls and put their trust in Bashar Assad.
                        In addition, there are absolutely no tyrannical qualities in it. Even the enemies say that he is an unusually pleasant person.
                      22. Beck
                        Beck 28 September 2012 16: 35
                        -1
                        What fair choices are under the dictator.
                        I repeat that I wrote below.

                        When the people rise, the dictator has three options.

                        1. Hold fair elections, and if you're lucky, then stay in power.

                        2. Independently resign. So did Mubarak. His hand did not rise to shoot at his people.

                        3. Order to shoot at your people. Gaddafi, but that didn't help him.

                        Assad is bombing his people. But it’s nothing. And so he is absolutely without tyrannical qualities. Little white, fluffy. Even the mothers of the murdered 30 thousand sons note which Assad is an EXTRAORDINATELY nice person.
                      23. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 28 September 2012 16: 40
                        +4
                        Quote: Beck
                        Assad is bombing his people. But it’s nothing. And so he is absolutely without tyrannical qualities. Little white, fluffy. Even the mothers of the murdered 30 thousand sons celebrate which Assad is an EXTRAORDINARY pleasant person

                        Oh Beck, it turns out that there are no mercenaries and no armed thugs in Syria who blow up everything that moves and there are no terrorists in Syria with the help of amers money, all this Assad does he terran, so you think. I did not expect you to take the side of Hilory Clinton, but it happens. Well, all right, your position is clear.
                      24. Beck
                        Beck 28 September 2012 16: 54
                        -2
                        Romanov.

                        I'm on my side. I have nothing to do with Hilary Clinton.

                        All kinds of gangs, gangs, extremists always appear with such performances. It's like pickpockets and window robbers appearing during demonstrations.

                        The first half year of the demonstration was peaceful. Demand is free, fair elections. Assad ordered to shoot. They shot half a year. The people took up the weapons they found. Then naturally the help went, mostly from the Arab countries. Just like the USSR and just people of the entire progressive world, they helped the Republicans of Spain. Combat equipment, the formation of inter-brigades.

                        Later, extremists and easy-money adventurers joined the popular movement. If there were elections, those who joined would not be.

                        You correctly said that my position is clear to you. Your position is clear to me too. We can’t push each other’s friend, don’t pull it off. Thank you for talking.
                      25. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 28 September 2012 17: 10
                        +4
                        Quote: Beck

                        All kinds of gangs, gangs, extremists always appear with such performances.

                        And who is the sponsor of the gangs and I’ll remind you that during peaceful demonstrations more than a hundred policemen were killed, they were simply shot, but you prefer not to pay attention to such facts
                        Quote: Beck
                        Demand is free, fair elections.

                        Please name the demonstrators.
                        Quote: Beck
                        They shot half a year.

                        Can you confirm not with the words of Clinton and her wards?
                        Quote: Beck
                        The people took up the weapons they found

                        And where did he find weapons on the street or help naiti
                        Quote: Beck
                        it’s just that people from all over the progressive world helped the Republicans of Spain. Combat equipment, the formation of inter-brigades.

                        Then they fought against fascism, and now you are scumbags who cut the throat of three-month-old children you call an opposition. Yes, let me be killed, but for nothing I will not raise a hand on the child. Who are you comparing with Spain
                        Quote: Beck
                        Already later to the popular movement

                        Who organized the popular movement and for whose money?
                        Quote: Beck
                        later extremists and easy-money adventurers joined the popular movement.

                        You are not embarrassed by Washington’s statements about sending to Turkey, where they are training militants of the CIA, what choice of people you are talking about, how much you need to be naive, so as not to notice obvious facts
                      26. Beck
                        Beck 28 September 2012 17: 27
                        -2
                        Romanov.

                        I thought we ended up discussing the topic my ardent opponent. This is not to anything, but just to praise.

                        1. Peaceful demonstrations. Sent victims from both sides. Here it was also necessary to call elections.

                        2. This question is inappropriate. How can I know the inhabitants of Homs. I don’t know the names of those first people who went to the first demonstrations in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya.

                        3. Well, the Middle East has always had enough weapons. The same Lebanon. There, if the weapon is raked, it’s probably enough for two divisions.

                        4. Then they fought against fascism. Now against authoritarianism and dictatorship. Statements such as slaughtering three-month-old children without clear evidence. Then such a region. Maybe cut from both sides.

                        5. In its beginning, it arose spontaneously, as a protest. Then they began to burn. It’s just that watching the army shoot its own people.

                        6. Our advisers, during the USSR, were also in many places of the globe.

                        Last thing. The easiest way to stop the bloodshed. This is to organize Assad honest, free elections. Assad will win them, let them rule. No, let the one whom the people choose rule. Well, that Assad put his ambitions above shed blood.

                        So the loser of the election, Sarkozy could bring tanks into the street. But he did not want bloodshed and left.
                      27. elenagromova
                        elenagromova 28 September 2012 16: 41
                        +2
                        The only thing left for "fighters against tyranny" is to repeat the same thing, like a parrot.
                        Remember what the "democrats" did to Mubarak, regardless of age or health? And this is your whole vile and dirty "democracy". unable to forgive her enemies. Democracy does not know how to spare. Democracy can only plant, judge, hang, torture, kill and bomb!
                        There are no 30 thousands, there are far fewer victims - 17 thousands, and they died at the hands of terrorists - both soldiers and civilians.
                      28. Beck
                        Beck 28 September 2012 17: 09
                        -3
                        It's time to finish. You started to get nervous and excited, and this will not lead to a normal end to the dispute. Finally.

                        Mubarak was prosecuted not by the Democrats, but by moderate Islamists. And who should ask forgiveness from anyone?

                        Wrong. Not 30 thousand, but only 17 thousand, we divide in half 8,5 thousand. Yes, a little. With such victims, you won’t shut the throat of the people. It would be better to shut up for another 40 years.

                        Last .. Democracy is nothing. Answer yourself, or something. What socio-political formation do you live in ?. It is clear that not under feudalism, slavery, monarchy, socialism, communism. And probably not under capitalism there is a lot of democracy. So how at what?

                        Bye. Thanks for the discussion.
                      29. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 28 September 2012 17: 13
                        +3
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        Democracy does not know how to spare. Democracy can only plant, judge, hang, torture, kill and bomb!

                        Elena, unfortunately, not everyone understands, all the charms of democracy, but we also have believers in democracy on the swamp, and Chirikova even collects money via the Internet to help the "opposition" of Syria, alas hi
                      30. Karish
                        Karish 29 September 2012 11: 24
                        -1
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        Remember what the "democrats" did to Mubarak, regardless of age or health? And this is your whole vile and dirty "democracy".

                        Like Elena.
                        Remember what the demonstrators did to Ceausescu, did you want this? Mubarak (according to my distinguished politician in Egypt) is in prison and is awaiting trial, for the order to shoot at the demonstrators and corruption (have I made a mistake?)
                        Do you want to remind you who went to prison after the uprisings? Honecker, Jaruzelsky and many other former leaders of the socialist camp countries. Yes, I forgot, but how about Rutskoi and Khazbulatov? Do these names tell you something?

                        Quote: elenagromova
                        And this is your whole vile and dirty "democracy". unable to forgive her enemies

                        How did Assad dad come to power? What happened to Salah Jadid? After all, he was overthrown by Hafez
                        Continue the info about the coups made by your beloved - Nasser, Saddam, etc. Or will you find it yourself?

                        Quote: elenagromova
                        There are no 30 thousands, there are far fewer victims - 17 thousands, and they died at the hands of terrorists - both soldiers and civilians.

                        17 thousand, not enough?
                        For all the years of the intifada (from 1987 to 2012, 25 years), including 3 major military operations, 2356 Palestinians died. (Including suicide bombers.) I don’t give how many Israelis died at their hands (now it's not about that)
                        At the same time, we are a bloody regime, and you have 17 thousand in a year, you are soft and fluffy laughing
                      31. Karish
                        Karish 29 September 2012 10: 59
                        -1
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        A hundred times spoken and negotiated. In Syria there is no mechanism for the transfer of power from father to son

                        But who is Bashar to Pope Assad? And who was the heir to him?
                        Did you hear that name Basel? He was the main heir to the place of the pope, but died in a car accident (you never heard about it) But what is the name of the BaselAsad airport in Damascus, why. An even simpler question is: Why was a poor ophthalmologist pulled out of London (who had no military experience and looked like an ordinary nerd), and not promoted Maher Assad, a brilliant officer? That's because Maher is 2 years younger than Bashar and it’s not supposed that the younger would be ahead of the older
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        There were elections.

                        Hafez al-Assad died on June 10, 2000 from heart failure. On the the next day after the death of the Syrian leader, the acting president of Syria, First Vice President Haddam appropriated Bashar al-Assad was promoted to lieutenant general and appointed him supreme commander of the army. The Syrian parliament changed the constitution, reducing the minimum age of a presidential candidate from 40 to 34 years specifically for the election of Bashar al-Assad.
                        On June 20, at the congress of the ruling Ba'ath Party, Bashar al-Assad was elected Secretary General and nominated as the only candidate for president, and a week later his candidacy was approved by parliament [3]. On July 10, a referendum was held in the country on the election of the head of state, as a result of which Bashar Assad was elected president of Syria, gaining 97,29% of the vote [6]. On May 27, 2007, another referendum was held in Syria on the re-election of Assad as head of state. Only one question was included in the ballot: “Do you trust the government of Bashar al-Assad until 2014?"[7]. According to the results of the referendum, Bashar Assad was re-elected for a second term, gaining 97,62% of the vote [8] ..

                        Well Elena, well Elena. I just admire you. There are places where you can cheat, distort facts, round corners. But so shamelessly lying, and even when the infa is just on the surface?
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        In addition, it absolutely does not have any tyrannical qualities. Even enemies note that he is an unusually pleasant person.

                        In this I agree with you. Unfortunate fate. The eldest died, and Maher younger. At the wrong time and in the wrong place he was born. Now I would treat Abramovich’s eyes with Berezovsky in London., But the laws of succession (I apologize for the honest Syrian elections) threw the unfortunate eye socket under the tanks crying I really sincerely feel sorry for him. Sincerely, Elena, so what about the list of literature? Help? Regards hi
                      32. elenagromova
                        elenagromova 30 September 2012 01: 34
                        -1
                        If the people spoke against Bashar (well, or against Basel, if he was alive), no efforts of Hafez would have helped.
                        And the people voted for Bashar in blood. People cut fingers and voted with their blood for the new young Leader.
                        Envy!
            2. Che
              Che 28 September 2012 08: 34
              +2
              Beck,
              Do not be as naive as a child. Do not believe the words coming from the mouth of the killers. One must be wiser.
              1. Beck
                Beck 28 September 2012 09: 15
                -2
                Che.

                Explain. What words and what killers?

                In the mess of the arrangement of comments, the meaning of your message is not clear.
          2. Karish
            Karish 27 September 2012 18: 02
            0
            Quote: Rezun
            My personal opinion is that Syria is needed as a bridgehead for an attack on Iran
            In fact, they do not have a common border laughing
            But Iraq has it, and who is sitting in Iraq?
            1. Rezun
              Rezun 27 September 2012 18: 39
              +1
              Karish And what about the localization of the armed conflict? And God forbid, Israel or Turkey will be hurt?
              1. Karish
                Karish 27 September 2012 20: 13
                +4
                Quote: Rezun
                KARISH What about the localization of the armed conflict? And God forbid, Israel or Turkey will be hurt?

                And I always said, Assad (from the point of view of Israel) is the best that is in Syria. I wish him many years and success in the work he has begun; let him quench as many freaks of all stripes as possible;
                In general, I wish that Assad would come out of this mess as the only one alive (of course with family members, his wife is very pretty good )
      2. Beck
        Beck 27 September 2012 17: 14
        -1
        Isra.

        They got along with the minuses. But these are trifles. Anyway, at least one, but think about it.
        1. smile
          smile 28 September 2012 04: 28
          +3
          Beck
          You are quite sane and interesting in communication .... is it really because of the unfortunate disadvantages that you are ready to communicate with this Nazi ... oh, Russophobe? After all, what he says is pure Nazism ...... would be shy ... being a Jew .... but no - a tomato! (as in a famous joke)
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 September 2012 09: 18
            -1
            Quote: smile
            . Really because of the unfortunate minuses you are ready to talk with this Nazi ... oh, Russophobe? After all, what he says is pure Nazism ...... would be shy ... being a Jew .... but no


            Here, I also do not understand the meaning.

            Which Nazi or Russophobe am I willing to communicate with for the sake of cons?

            Please explain specifically and I will specifically answer you.
            1. smile
              smile 28 September 2012 12: 11
              +1
              Beck
              I had in mind Mr. Isra ... his undisguised Russophobia. manifested by him in almost every commentary, does not allow him to be called in any other way ...
      3. Uncle
        Uncle 27 September 2012 23: 46
        -1
        Quote: Isr
        This is because the Russians are fed with distorted information such Natella Speransky.

        This is not information, this is a dog barking, the wind is wearing. Babskiy chatter.
      4. Che
        Che 28 September 2012 08: 30
        +2
        Isr,
        Your media and feed. And you have the whole world in a prism turned upside down.
    5. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 27 September 2012 15: 19
      +8
      What you say can be said about any president in power. They all cling to their chair and increase their tenure and re-election, so what? Now to overthrow and shoot everyone? I like Assad - he is a real man and a hero !!! And the country should develop evolutionarily, itself, even if it is a state of cannibals, without external pressure. I think so
      1. Beck
        Beck 27 September 2012 15: 40
        -7
        Victor.

        Hello fellow countryman. What did the KGB figure out? Now you are not an American spy with an American flag in your hands? I see proved his. The flag was returned to you.

        Seriously. Of course, all presidents somehow want to stay in power. But in civilized countries, they listen to the voice of the people. The people said in the elections - we don’t want you and the president is leaving.

        In France, the people said in the election, Sarkozy - go away, we want Holland and Sarkozy gone. But he could take tanks to the streets (powers are immediately transferred), raise planes into the sky, order them to shoot at those who did not vote for him.

        And Assad could have done so from the very beginning of the peaceful demonstrations. Hold the election. If people are in favor, stay in power. If not, then resign, like Sarkozy.
        1. d.gksueyjd
          d.gksueyjd 27 September 2012 20: 00
          +5
          In your opinion, when the meeting at the "swamp" VVP was going to announce re-elections, in that case why in "democratic" America, when strikes and demonstrations began, they were democratically dispersed with water cannons, and not announced the elections. AGAIN WESTERN DOUBLE STANDARDS!
          1. Beck
            Beck 27 September 2012 23: 22
            -5
            Hksuidu.

            Putin does not need to announce re-election. And Assad had to call for FREE elections. As under the father of dictator Hafez, so under the Son Bashar al-Assad there were no free elections in Syria for 40 years.
        2. smile
          smile 28 September 2012 04: 34
          +3
          Beck
          Excuse me ... what’s your president’s name there? .... oh, I forgot, and how much is he in power? ... yeah, if you are against, say so, let’s burn Kazakhstan in the crucible of the civil war, kill a quarter of the population, but all the survivors of the fire victims will be free .... sapsem! .... you can still invoke foreign bayonets ... they promote democracy in the first place .... in your case, they are closer - the Chinese .... sorry for the scumbag, but force .......
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 September 2012 08: 46
            -3
            We talked about Syria. But, if so, I'll tell you. Our president is also authoritarian; we do not have truly free elections, like you. And if we ourselves agree to live under such a regime, then neither the world community nor the United States will lift a finger to change our system themselves .. Now, if the people themselves rise to defend their rights with numerous, massive demonstrations, and the authorities will use force, repression, then The West will have its say. And the West will not create an artificial protest situation. This is not his method. It is only jingoistic patriots who see the "malicious" encroachments of the West under every bush and every breeze.
            1. Che
              Che 28 September 2012 10: 18
              +3
              Quote: Beck
              And the West will not create an artificially protest atmosphere. This is not his method.

              They will be and how they will be, by the way, and in Kazakhstan this can be done like in Kyrgyzstan.
              1. Beck
                Beck 28 September 2012 10: 33
                -5
                Che.

                The West did not crank up anything in Kyrgyzstan. The people of Kyrgyzstan themselves dared the stealing president. It was then the authoritarian regimes of the CIS countries, fearing for their posts, invented and disseminated through the media a version about the subversive activities of the West. To cheer-up with pariotism to protect itself from a possible collapse.
                1. Sandov
                  Sandov 1 October 2012 20: 53
                  0
                  Beck,
                  I envy it, it’s good to live in ignorance however, but Che is right.
            2. smile
              smile 28 September 2012 12: 17
              +3
              Beck
              Yeah, so you think that the honest West interferes in the politics of other states only if the people decide to exterminate your state? ... N ... yeah ... tell me, how does the honest West calculate the number of votes of the people? By the way, I do not consider Russia a state with "non-free" elections ... an artificial protest environment can be created everywhere .... there are always dissatisfied people ... here we have them - they are trying to organize ... the main thing is the appropriate organization and support. I'm sure you know about this ... just for some reason don't say ... :)))
              1. Beck
                Beck 28 September 2012 13: 16
                -4
                Smile.

                The people never spread rot their own state, they displace dictators.

                West does not calculate. He, like the entire world community, sees the scale of Assad’s war against his people. What is there to calculate?

                If all the people live well, no gingerbread or whip can drive them into the opposition. Well, someone will, so it happens in everything. If the state of the economy worsens, more and more political freedoms are violated. There will be more and more protests. When it comes to a certain trait, the masses take to the streets demanding change .. The dictators have three options.

                1. Call free elections and hope for a favorable election result.

                2. Voluntarily resign, leaving the people themselves to decide their fate.

                3. Apply force. Start dispersing demonstrations, shoot at protesters. And finally bomb your people. Trying to maintain his power.

                examples:

                Gaddafi shot at his nvarod, it did not help.

                Mubarak was humane. His hand did not rise to kill his own people, and he himself left the government.

                Assad is bombing his people and destroying the cities of his country.
                1. smile
                  smile 28 September 2012 14: 37
                  +3
                  Beck
                  Tell me. if I plant you bedbugs, train them, organize them, give them money and weapons ... and then you start to beat them. Who will you be angry with more - at bedbugs or at me sucking .. such a thing? :)))
                  If I turn your eyes towards Libya, whose population had social guarantees that they now don’t even dream about, can you stop talking about the fact that the civil war and intervention there came from a difficult life?
                  Calling elections at a time when there is a war unleashed from outside and barely covert intervention (I hope it’s not a secret for you that foreign troops participate in hostilities in Syria) is the height of idiocy. Same. that we should call the elections in November 41 years.
                  To resign is, firstly, an exotic way of suicide, and secondly, an instant burst of bloody bacchanalia on a monstrous scale, compared with the current one - blue flowers, and the inevitable invasion of foreign interventionists.

                  As I understand it. that it was the Libyan people dropping bombs from NATO aircraft onto their heads? ... Well, you really .... there’s a limit to everything. It’s even inconvenient for you to explain the obvious things. You are not a stupid person - you yourself see everything ....
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 28 September 2012 15: 45
                    -4
                    Smile.

                    In defending your position, you come up with all new statements that do not agree with anything.

                    1. In addition to the stomach, a person has a soul - self-awareness .. And this soul requires justice, honesty, openness. If a dictator has been in power for 40 years, self-awareness requires change.

                    2. About what I have already said. Until the people rise, no one will come to fight for it. There’s Kim Ying Sera. The people do not speak like that to anyone and do not care about them.

                    3. Mubarak is gone. The sky did not fall on Egypt.

                    4. The more the dictator persists, the more the trash adjoins the masses of the people who have their own interests. But which in number constitute a negligible minority. During any public events there are pickpockets and robbers of shop windows.

                    5. In Tunisia, Libya, Egypt at the moment there is no vakhnakalya.

                    6. What are NATO aircraft. Assad is now bombing his people with Russian-made planes.

                    7. If you bring weapons to Norway or Finland, there will be no blood. People will surrender their weapons. Because they know that in the next election they will choose the model of life they want.

                    All events in the Arab world show that with the departure of dictators, nothing has changed for the worse.

                    Everything ends with you discussion. Protect all dictators. According to your method, you can justify Hitler. And you are the second as an argument to put words - you are not a stupid person, you are an intelligent person. If you initially think that the oaaonent is stupid, then why should gardens be fenced
                    1. smile
                      smile 28 September 2012 19: 16
                      +2
                      Beck
                      Well, positions exist to protect them. :))))
                      1. I recall that you yourself mentioned bad living. So I answered you.
                      Here you tell me. But what is a change of self-awareness - a mandatory process like molting? And what is it, is due precisely to that. that someone has long been in power? Indeed, this follows from your argument. Then tell me - in what year? :))))
                      2. For some reason, the people are rising up where the special services of unfriendly states are actively working, where they are intensively taming, arming and organizing, and also, for some reason, at the same time, the people are being diluted diligently with foreign radicals and mercenaries ... why would it, and?
                      3. Mubarak has left (he is now in a sanatorium, right?), The economy of Egypt has been peddling. Islamists came to power, people are furious, blood is pouring on Tahrir Square ... so far not so much ... do you like it?
                      4. In Libya, which has actually ceased to be a single state, it is divided into specific principalities, gangster territories a complete mess. And including blood. The country has foreign interventionists.
                      5. Assad destroys mercenaries, bandits, monsters and local radicals who slaughter Libyans families. This is his direct duty as head of state.
                      6. Do not confuse the mentality of Norwegians and Arabs. The standard of living is still different And if the whole of Europe and the United States for half a century, having limited resources, will form and nurture terrorists in all neighboring countries, as well as massively send mercenaries there in return for those destroyed and planted, then be sure - firstly, it will undermine the economy , and secondly. there will be a permanent sluggish war ....
                      Frankly, there is no desire to argue with you either - I'm tired .... don't be offended ...
                      1. Beck
                        Beck 29 September 2012 09: 29
                        -1
                        Smile.

                        1. Self-awareness changes, replenishes constantly as information becomes available. Not long in power. And ILLEGAL.

                        2. First the people rise. And then help comes to him. In the special services? Tell me the attributes of special units, western services (part numbers, their names, quantity) confirmed by reliable sources.

                        3. Mubarak brought to justice. People go to Tahrir Square to protest against this or that, this is guaranteed by freedom of assembly. Blood does not pour. There are injured by throwing stones. Musri fight extremists. Recently, a court in Egypt sentenced 17 extremists to death. Egyptian investigative authorities instituted criminal proceedings against an Islamic fanatic who ripped openly the Bible.

                        4. See the news. Libyan authorities disarm and liquidate the armed groups remaining after the victory of the uprising.

                        5. The mentality. If such a dictator as Assad appeared in Norway, the Norwegians would also take up arms.
                      2. Sandov
                        Sandov 1 October 2012 20: 57
                        0
                        Quote: Beck
                        2. First the people rise. And then help comes to him. In the special services? Tell me the attributes of special units, western services (part numbers, their names, quantity) confirmed by reliable sources.

                        Well, do not tell. There are also special services in Kazakhstan. If you have friends, talk to them. Open your eyes to a lot. Dozens of institutes and NGOs work in this field.
                    2. elenagromova
                      elenagromova 29 September 2012 02: 43
                      +1
                      Hahaha. "A dictator has been in power for 40 years." One more time hahaha. If this is about Bashar, then he recently turned 47 years old. Does your reply mean that he became President at the age of 7? Third time hahaha.
                      1. tekinoral
                        tekinoral 29 September 2012 03: 30
                        -3
                        Havez Assad was not a dictator?
                      2. Beck
                        Beck 29 September 2012 11: 02
                        -2
                        Quote: tekinoral
                        Havez Assad was not a dictator?


                        Hafez al-Assad. In 1955 he graduated from the Syrian Military College of the Air Force. After that he underwent an internship in the USSR. in the city of Kant of the Kyrgyz SSR.

                        Maybe, but maybe not. During the internship, the KGB or GRU could be recruited.

                        Since 1966 he was the Minister of Defense of Syria. November 16, 1970 made a military coup, overthrowing the former ruler Salah Jadid .. In 1982, on his orders, he was bombed by Mr. Hama, where the uprising rose, then the city was stormed. According to various estimates, from 17 to 40 thousand Syrians died.

                        After the death of Hafez al-Assad in 2000, power was transferred to his son Bashar al-Assad.

                        Parallels beg. with Akhmat and Ramadan Kadyrov. If so, then the Kremlin’s intercession for Bashar is understandable. It’s like raising Ramadan in Chechnya.
                      3. Beck
                        Beck 29 September 2012 09: 38
                        -3
                        Tell XAXA again.

                        For 40 years or so, Assad was meant, not Assad. The unforgettable Hafez al-Assad at the time of the coup took power and transferred it to his son. It runs on both of them.
                      4. Karish
                        Karish 29 September 2012 11: 31
                        -1
                        Quote: elenagromova
                        Hahaha. "A dictator has been in power for 40 years." One more time hahaha. If this is about Bashar, then he recently turned 47 years old. Does your reply mean that he became President at the age of 7? Third time hahaha.

                        And another 8 times ha ha ha on your babble Elena. The term of the dynasties is determined from the first member of the dynasty ascended the throne to the last. The Asad Dynasty rules over 40 years. The Kim Dynasty in Korea is 65 years old. Or will you argue that there were the same elections? laughing
        3. elenagromova
          elenagromova 28 September 2012 15: 00
          0
          Before this, Sarkozy served his seven-year term, and no demonstrations forced him to call early elections.
          And how many demonstrations he managed to brutally disperse! Even the one where retirees were against raising the retirement age.
          In Syria, elections will be held in 2014. After they were in 2007. By the way, Syria inherited the 7-year term from France.
          Bashar Asad says the same thing. Do not choose me people in the legitimate elections - leave.
          And just like that, especially on demand from the outside, the president should not leave.
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 September 2012 15: 58
            -1
            In France, as now in Spain, Portugal, and Greece, we are not speaking out against presidents, but for certain economic programs. And Sarkozy was chosen in a fair election. Assad received power from his father and all his choices are continuous falsification. As in the USSR 99%.
          2. Karish
            Karish 29 September 2012 11: 38
            0
            Quote: elenagromova
            Before this, Sarkozy served his seven-year term, and no demonstrations forced him to call early elections.

            Are you okay? Do you compare the demonstrations in France and what started in Syria?
            Quote: elenagromova
            And how many demonstrations he managed to brutally disperse!

            How brutal is it? The number of dead and wounded? Old in the studio. If in France - brutally, then in Syria how?
            Quote: elenagromova
            In Syria, elections will be held in 2014. After they were in 2007. By the way, Syria inherited the 7-year term from France.

            Do not understand about the seven-year term? So what ?
            And all jurisprudence came to us from Roman law, and the first alphabet was invented by the Jews, and all the rest (European 0 alphabets are derived from it, and glass was started to be cooked (industrially) in Murano? And? And?) (God forbid, you will inherit from Mom and Dad, and how you manage it is up to you. Here is an analogy interesting between 0 years in France and Syria
            Quote: elenagromova
            Bashar Asad says the same thing. Do not choose me people in the legitimate elections - leave.

            In this he is not original. laughing
            Quote: elenagromova
            And just like that, especially at the request of the outside, the president should not leave

            Just like that, definitely not.
    6. Tixi
      Tixi 27 September 2012 19: 31
      +4
      Dear, you are very mistaken! I sincerely pity you ...
    7. Arkan
      Arkan 27 September 2012 21: 40
      0
      Quote: Beck
      ... And so that he can’t cope, as the journalist writes, with a handful of dissenters. More than 1,5 years fighting against his own people ...

      wassat
  15. bubla5
    bubla5 27 September 2012 12: 57
    +3
    It’s said a lot about Medvedev, he passed
  16. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 27 September 2012 13: 30
    +6
    Really!
    Russia has long had to abandon the laudatory psalms of self-praise!
    It's time to actually show your Velichi!
    Then there will be no one to convince, to conduct lengthy explanatory negotiations! The world itself will reach Russia! And they will sing Russian praises!
    And Syria today, the need is not military support, but ideological!
    Because not one regime can not resist the aggressor without the support of the people. A Norod must believe!
    1. 1tankist
      1tankist 27 September 2012 14: 52
      +1
      Ruswolf,
      Well said + 100500 good
    2. Karish
      Karish 27 September 2012 18: 06
      +1
      Quote: Ruswolf
      Because not one regime can not resist the aggressor without the support of the people.

      100% correct.
  17. tambu
    tambu 27 September 2012 15: 01
    +5
    In general, the main thing for Russia is not to surrender its own as it was with the Serbs ... but Putin, thank God, is not Yeltsin, and there is hope then ...
  18. Ussuriets
    Ussuriets 27 September 2012 15: 01
    +1
    Eh !!! I DO NOT LIKE ALL THIS .... THE QUESTION ON THE ACTIONS OF RUSSIA IN THE CASE OF AGGRESSION AGAINST SYRIA ... AND WHILE, A PASSIVE AND HESITATIVE EXTERNAL POLICY OPERATION ARE OPERATED. Although we live we will see.
  19. Tsar Ivan the First
    Tsar Ivan the First 27 September 2012 15: 16
    +3
    Russia needs to be stronger in Syria angry we will have the time to send specialists, weapons and help "Get Democracy" through the fight for Syria. Explain to Westerners fool here your end will be, if not stop
  20. vvvvv
    vvvvv 27 September 2012 17: 10
    +3
    I put a "+" on the article without reading it - just for the title !!!
    I myself thought about this more than once.
  21. Vodrak
    Vodrak 27 September 2012 17: 29
    +4
    we need to help Syria, we - Central Asia - are the next, this is clear to the hedgehog.
    and indeed it’s time to accept Syria in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, maybe then the arrogance of the Americans will decrease
    1. Beck
      Beck 27 September 2012 18: 00
      -6
      Watermark.

      May they not go to Central Asia. What are they supposed to do here? Here, not a single ruler massively shoots his people. Not a single ruler says he will establish a new world order. Not a single ruler reaches for nuclear weapons. What would the United States not only encounter with Central Asia, but also with Russia. The Chinese for fun, or what.?
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 28 September 2012 18: 33
        0
        Beck,
        Who owns Asia owns the world. Amer will come if that.
        1. Beck
          Beck 29 September 2012 09: 14
          -3
          Quote: Sandov
          Who owns Asia owns the world. Amer will come if that.


          For me this is a wrong postulate. In modernity, in order to own the world, one must take possession of either the USA. or China, or Russia, or Europe.

          Amer come? Where will they come? Well, they don’t need to go there? Base? So everything is visible from space. Troop deployment? Against who? Expensive. For a military presence above the head, AUG is enough.

          Exactly the same suffering cries were when the peoples of Tunisia, Libya, Egypt overthrew their dictators. And where are the Americans now ?. Where are their bases, troops in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt? In Libya, liberals beat the election, moderate Egyptians in Egypt and Tunisia. And high these peoples live as they chose in free elections. Musri fight Islamic extremism. Libyans disarm these same extremists. Where in these countries there is an Islamic mess and a religious massacre that scared patrons of the site visitors. WHERE?

          But Russia, with its support of dictators, has lost its influence in these countries. Now these countries will not buy Russian weapons, the main type of export to these countries from Russia. How much is this money? AND? BILLIONS of dollars. In Syria, with support from Syria, and the bloody Assad, Russia is losing the last shred of its influence in the Arab world left to it from the USSR.
          1. Sandov
            Sandov 1 October 2012 21: 04
            0
            Beck,
            Oil workers have been there for a long time - work is in full swing. The profits are flowing.
  22. Allegedly
    Allegedly 27 September 2012 17: 35
    +1
    And it helps, we just don’t know everything, maybe even after 100 years they won’t remove the bar * top secret *.
  23. Oleg the Great
    Oleg the Great 27 September 2012 18: 00
    +4
    Quote: Isr
    Interestingly, Natella Speranskaya was scared to write when the USSR physically eliminated presidents and entire states. When the USSR liquidated the president in Afghanistan, she probably was not yet born, but when Russia recently attacked tiny Georgia, she probably saw all this, but was "afraid" to write?

    Why is the USSR blamed for Amin? Do not forget that he came to power by killing the former leader. But the Yankees overthrew and killed .....
    1. Common sense
      Common sense 28 September 2012 00: 58
      -5
      Well, Gaddafi and Assad came to power in a coup.
      Why do you have a different attitude to the invasion of Afghanistan than to Libya and Syria
  24. silver_roman
    silver_roman 27 September 2012 18: 00
    0
    Strong article. Damn, after reading, and especially in words: "The walls of houses in Damascus are covered with the inscriptions" Thank you Russia. "- the herd is so insulting and pitiful. Once again I am convinced that these ovsky creatures and their patrons, the Jews and Anglo-Saxons, will never stop until they drive the world into the very ass. until the whole world understands this, we will purposefully move in geometrical progress towards our own destruction. It seems to me that the world is already at its limit: "peace" is as sober-minded mankind and relatively independent of this damned ideology, and "peace" is as a state of equilibrium and a synonym for war and chaos!
  25. elenagromova
    elenagromova 27 September 2012 20: 06
    +7
    Hello, friends, this is my interview, otherwise some have decided to scold Natella Speranskaya, - she took this interview from me.
    And someone, I suspect, of the local Zionists with the German flag (aypishnik from Germany) wrote to me in LJ anonymously utter disgusting. There are suspicions about who could have done this, for his style here is similar to some of the local commentators who stand up for Israel, even in its wrongdoings. Only here he is careful to write such and use obscene language.
    Thank you for your support, but for detractors: Why do you blame Natella? She asked questions.
    Although I am sure that her position coincides with mine.
    1. smile
      smile 28 September 2012 04: 45
      +2
      elenagromova
      Hello! And this is not only a greeting - a wish! ... You there, of course, know better, but a thought creeps in. that normal Jews are unlikely to find it very useful to accumulate uncontrollable radicals armed to the teeth under their nose .... by the way, it would be interesting if you published some of the unpleasant messages in your LiveJournal .... only, preferably, not those where alone curses, and those where there is a bit of argumentation ... it would be interesting .... here is such a request, a wish ... take care of yourself there ......
    2. Karish
      Karish 29 September 2012 13: 20
      0
      Quote: elenagromova
      Hello, friends, this is my interview, otherwise some have decided to scold Natella Speranskaya, - she took this interview from me.

      Dialogue between Fox and Sharapov: “Speransky, Speransky, didn’t hear something like this, from modern ones, or what?” “Lev Alexandrovich, a wonderful writer. Far more modern. He writes beautiful novels. ”

      Is she the daughter of that Speransky? Talents are passed on or on the children of geniuses .....?
  26. elenagromova
    elenagromova 27 September 2012 20: 23
    +2
    And thanks to the one who posted it here.
  27. Karish
    Karish 27 September 2012 20: 30
    +3
    Quote: elenagromova
    Hello friends, this is my interview,

    Yes, in general, few doubted this.

    Quote: elenagromova
    And someone, I suspect, from the local Zionists with the German flag (IP from Germany)

    No, this site administration replaces the Israeli flags. I can tell you if you hover over a flag. find out where. Nobody here hides behind German flags
    Quote: elenagromova
    standing up for Israel even in its wrong actions.

    Elena, well, again, you are talking about Israel. Leave your tales, Assad is needed by Israel, because in its place will come a much greater evil (Dr. Evil - inspired by something) Of the two evils, one must choose the lesser. For many years, Assad and his family.
    What are the specific customers of Assad - Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, Turkey, the UAE - or is it embarrassing to admit that they fell on their own?
    Quote: elenagromova
    Although I am sure that her position coincides with mine.

    Well, the cuckoo praises the cock. for praising the cuckoo. Although to be honest, a very interesting article. Today there are 300 killed in Syria (not something that I would really worry), at first there were more than 30 thousand and 700 thousand refugees in the conflict (this is generally not bad, let the spiders fight in the bank, we’ll be calmer ..
    It's just that there are so many devotees, the borders in Syria are completely transparent, or something. You understand that if 30.t. killed. at least 120 tons of wounded and 300.000 participants in the conflict (simple proportions of hostilities - true if civilians are not extinguished). Where so much? All over the hill.
    And again I wish Assad success in his difficult task.
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 27 September 2012 21: 55
      -2
      Quote: Karish
      Yes, in general, few doubted this.

      That's for sure. In general, there are sensible publications on the topic of Syria, or read emotional reports of Gromova and Speranskaya? Already asked Gromov not to draw conclusions for us, give the facts, and we will draw conclusions ourselves. And with the second homeland - just ridiculous !!!
      1. elenagromova
        elenagromova 27 September 2012 22: 01
        +3
        I'll figure out what to write to me. If you need the bare facts, no one bothers to get them. I consider myself entitled to have a civil position and write articles, and not just news, write with the blood of my heart, and not just knock on the clave. And if they ask me, they ask me questions, then, probably, they want from me not bare facts, but assessments. Or am I already in my own interview I have no right to declare my position, especially since they ask me about it?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 27 September 2012 23: 15
          +1
          In no case. You cannot imagine Lenochka (sorry for the familiarity) how much pleasure your articles give to the Zionist Aaron Zaavi. And in general, give Mr. Assad greetings from the majority of Israelis. We buried in 2001-2004, dozens and sometimes up to hundreds of old people, women and children per month killed in buses, shops and simply on the street by the Islamo-Nazis whose headquarters were in Damascus, today we cannot but say: "What sow, reap. " angry
          And so we are an unforgettable people and even made it clear to Mr. Assad that we are not going to touch him, which he took advantage of removing almost100% of the troops from the Israeli border, but somehow he uses them stupidly. request
          1. smile
            smile 28 September 2012 04: 55
            +2
            Aaron Zawi
            Aron, I'm sorry for the familiarity, and what, do you think those are bandits. that they are eager for power in Syria and have already seized power in Libya will be better for you? .... Question - by what? If you say so. because because. that all the neighbors around are mired in anarchy, weakened and cease to pose an organized threat to you, then I understand .... but I don’t agree - it's a matter of time. What's next? That is why I believe that your special services are trying to saddle the tide, but not create it, they created it against their will .... and you yourself know that they’ll get the hell out! ....
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 28 September 2012 08: 04
              +1
              smileabsolutely nothing will be better. For as religious fanatics, and only such can win in Syria, they can be better than Israel. But with all this Assad, to put it mildly, is also not an option. For us, this is a battle between two spiders in a jar. But we certainly will not meddle in their disassembly.
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 27 September 2012 23: 36
          -3
          Quote: elenagromova
          write with the blood of the heart, and not just beat the clave

          Your empty rhetoric in the spirit of the Komsomol members of the Brezhnev era is just a simple knock on the clave, as you have expressed yourself. This is not blood, this is water. And if I’m planning to get facts, then certainly not from your articles, they simply aren’t there, only your emotions.
          1. Beck
            Beck 28 September 2012 00: 05
            -4
            Uncle.

            Uncle - "Your empty rhetoric in the spirit of the Komsomol of the Brezhnev era,"

            Exactly. Komsomolsk report. By order of the city committee "Nashi" and in line with the general line of the party.

            "Shame on the imperialists!" "Hands off the dictator" "Long live friend and ally Bashar al-Assad!" "Freedom for Assad in the means of fighting the hirelings of Zionism!" "Bashar al-Assad is a glorious successor to the cause of the great Hafez al-Assad"

            HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!!
            1. elenagromova
              elenagromova 28 September 2012 00: 16
              +6
              Komsomol reporting is one of the best compliments I can make.
              I admire members of the Komsomol and would like to at least be in something like them.
              1. Uncle
                Uncle 28 September 2012 00: 20
                -5
                Quote: elenagromova
                I admire members of the Komsomol and would like to at least be in something like them.
                This is because romantic winds are walking in your young little head.
                1. Che
                  Che 28 September 2012 10: 23
                  +3
                  Uncle,
                  Romance is great, mountains can be curtailed and corridors destroyed.
              2. Beck
                Beck 28 September 2012 00: 24
                -2
                Quote: elenagromova
                I admire members of the Komsomol and would like to at least be in something like them.


                You do not have to be alike. You are the essence of the Komsomol worker. Well, there’s a lively monument to a mossy stereotype thrown by civilization into the dustbin of history.

                I give you the pioneer salute.

                HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!!
                1. smile
                  smile 28 September 2012 05: 13
                  +3
                  Beck
                  You know, basically young workers who are not affected by upbringing are thrown into the landfill ... (for various reasons, even you know they will not beat you with this) .... it's ridiculous. when the representatives of civilization who are throwing someone out somewhere are those who have nothing behind their souls. except for a few simple myths ... recently invented ..... worse when blood spills as a result of their appearance ....... maybe Elena Gromova simplifies her articles and puts a lot of emotions into them, but she is a woman and writes articles, not intelligence reports .... is something unclear to you?
                  Beck, you and your cheers - neither in .... nor in the red army ... ... it has not yet reached you. that the destruction of the gradual system of education of youth. backed up by the appropriate base badly affected the results? And there is nothing to reproach. it’s time to suffer .... for a long time ..... so. That you really Elena Thundering weigh out compliments .....
                  1. Beck
                    Beck 28 September 2012 09: 00
                    -2
                    Quote: smile
                    So. That you really Elena Thundering weigh out compliments .....


                    Well, let Gromova go to the barricades.

                    Hurray!
              3. Karish
                Karish 29 September 2012 13: 09
                0
                Quote: elenagromova
                I admire members of the Komsomol and would like to at least be in something like them.

                My friend Volodka SAvchenko (Komsomol member) and at the same time a dvoechnik and aklash (at the age of 17) would love this wassat
            2. Uncle
              Uncle 28 September 2012 00: 24
              -4
              Quote: Beck
              HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!! HOORAY!!!
              She would be on an armored car.
              1. smile
                smile 28 September 2012 05: 17
                +3
                Uncle
                Would you like it in the trash .... And nevertheless, it’s quite fair ...... the girl really has the gift - to make incendiary speeches ...... and you have to criticize .... I congratulate you! :))))))
                1. Uncle
                  Uncle 28 September 2012 10: 39
                  -1
                  How did she fascinate you? That praises Assad? Or just follow the principle: Why does a cuckoo praise a rooster? For praising the cuckoo.
                  1. smile
                    smile 28 September 2012 12: 26
                    +2
                    Uncle
                    Dear ... cuckoo, Elena Gromova and I have never talked ... don’t wishful thinking ... for a quote from a fable - I praise .... but perhaps it’s worth looking for comparisons so that they are not false .. ..and here you are .. dear .buckoo, really, like two cocks in every way swelled up :))) .... I'm sorry that without fables - but true.
            3. smile
              smile 28 September 2012 05: 00
              +3
              Beck
              I think - the alternative is the death of Assad, let's kill everyone we see and from this we will all become democrats, beat the slaves, save Ithaca ...? I don’t know the antagonistic cry of our (and yours) Hurray ..... probably, democracy is done silently .... into knives ...... do you like it? :)))))
    2. elenagromova
      elenagromova 27 September 2012 22: 37
      +5
      Karish, I didn’t accuse you of writing LJ to me, I don’t think you will say so. Of course, you can wish all of us who live in Syria, death, well, or 90% of us, but you do it politely, you will not hurt us))))
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 28 September 2012 02: 14
        +1
        Neither Karish nor I will touch you living in Syria. Do we need it? Alawites against Sunnis, Kurds against Arabs, secular against Islamists. But we didn’t have enough of your vinaigrette for complete happiness. You yourself somehow cut yourself without us.
      2. Karish
        Karish 28 September 2012 07: 54
        0
        Quote: elenagromova
        Karish, I just didn’t accuse you of writing bad things to me in LJ

        Elena, God forbid, these are not my methods. At least in something you are right.
        Quote: elenagromova
        Of course, you can wish all of us living in Syria death, well, or 90% of us,

        Well, we have it at least mutually
        Quote: elenagromova
        but you will do it politely, you will not hurt us painfully)))

        Believe me, I don’t need it, you are like that yourself, each other. You don't need help laughing
      3. Uncle
        Uncle 28 September 2012 11: 13
        -3
        Who are you, Elena Gromova? Or how are you there? Sent Cossack, a man with a double bottom? There was a time, you zealously defended Gaddafi, now he is gone. Is Assad next? By the way, did you convince him to shave his mustache? That's right, but he was quite like Hitler.
  28. aleks3897
    aleks3897 27 September 2012 20: 53
    +6
    THE MAIN BADDER IN THE WORLD IS AMERICA! IT WOULD NOT BE AMERICA, WAST NOT BE WAR! The USA IS A PARASIS, A BLOODHOUSE AND A Nasty State FROM WHICH IN THE WORLD ONE TROUBLE!
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 September 2012 23: 19
      +1
      A nightmare, how did people slaughter each other before the United States? request A riddle, you understand. what
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 27 September 2012 23: 41
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        A nightmare, how did people slaughter each other before the United States?

        Before the emergence of the United States was Israel. Not today's, but the biblical one. The poor Israelites now got from the Felistim, then from the Egyptians, you know. And you yourself know why. Apparently, for the same and today tests are sent to your people.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 27 September 2012 23: 49
          +1
          Uncle
          Everything was beaten and we were beaten. The usual banal story of a small nation.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 28 September 2012 00: 22
            +1
            When you forgot God, they beat you, when you remembered him, you beat any enemy. And then you were merciful, allowed to crucify the best of you, I think God has turned away from you for a long time. I do not want to offend you. We ourselves are.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 28 September 2012 00: 55
              +1
              Oh, how you twisted. I am a secular person and I know for sure that Gd is on the side of the "big battalions".
              1. Lech e-mine
                Lech e-mine 28 September 2012 03: 04
                +3
                I am not a secular person and I also know for sure that God is on the side of JUSTICE
                and the presence of a large colt is not yet an indicator of the truth of his faith.
                1. Karish
                  Karish 28 September 2012 07: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Leha e-mine
                  not yet an indicator of the truth of his faith.

                  And faith is not right or wrong. Faith - she is faith. (if we are talking about religion, and not about any cults)
        2. Che
          Che 28 September 2012 11: 07
          +1
          Uncle,
          Your bloody and evil god destroyed all the Jews, only the Levites remained, who crumble the Arabs, of course with the wrong hands. Although the Arabs are very close to you - the Hamito-Semitic tribes however.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 28 September 2012 11: 10
            -1
            Quote: Che
            God destroyed all the Jews
            Not everyone, see how many there are on the site.
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 28 September 2012 20: 40
            +1
            What? stop How is it destroyed? And who am I? request
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 1 October 2012 21: 09
              0
              Aron Zaavi,
              Read the history of Jewry, an amusing little thing. A small tribe of Levites all Jewish tribes slaughtered. Where by cunning, where by brute force. Before Christianity yet.
              1. Allegedly
                Allegedly 1 October 2012 21: 20
                0
                If before Christianity it was, then God was angry, they built idols, worshiped them and violated all conceivable and unthinkable religious prohibitions. Therefore, he punished you, and if so, then rightly so. Before Christianity, you had all the cards in your hands, but how could everything have turned out differently? They would be a royal priesthood, and the whole world would serve you, and with pleasure. But everything turned out differently, because "History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood" ...
      2. d.gksueyjd
        d.gksueyjd 28 September 2012 10: 55
        +1
        The United States has not always been what it has become over the past 100 years! The slave-owning system left its imprint on the consciousness of Americans, this became especially noticeable after the "appointment" of American presidents from the southern states.
  29. Uncle
    Uncle 28 September 2012 10: 30
    -2
    I understand the indignation of the Israeli side by the reports of Gromova and Speranskaya, they betray their own people, they do not like traitors anywhere.
    1. elenagromova
      elenagromova 28 September 2012 15: 09
      +3
      whom did I betray?
      you are betraying the interests of your own country. After all, our country supports Syria.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 28 September 2012 20: 55
        +2
        elenagromova
        And rightly so. Today I understand what kind of gift Israel gives the Russian Federation without letting the Sunnis rely on the financial support of Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Russia is certainly not easy. In Qatar and Arabia, 1.5 trillion. $ Accounts. Double respect for such a step.
        1. Karish
          Karish 29 September 2012 11: 47
          0
          In general, the situation in Syria is a kind of lightning rod for many countries, including Israel. If you take the number of Islamist scumbags for some constant. That they do not bring anything from killing from one country to another, except for murders and a mess, and where and why doesn’t play any role for them at all. Now they have rushed to Syria (after Bosnia, Afghanistan, Libya, Chechnya) and for more than a year now they have been shedding their blood and thank God they are dying. So let it go on as long as possible. Forces of Assad, because they’ll sob up there, will take over the others drinks .
  30. Su24
    Su24 3 October 2012 13: 53
    -1
    So this is Natella Speranskaya! I did not expect to read her interview here.