The war in Ukraine - what is the fight for?

Yuri Podolyaka

Yesterday I was surprised to learn (before that there was not much time) that a huge amount of my old materials are now being replicated by a mass of channels and social networks. But often this is done in a truncated form, and important details are overlooked.

And therefore, today I am starting a new section, where I will post my old system materials, to which, in my opinion, it makes sense to return again.

Comments

[rocket757]

So what is so new that has happened that has not happened before and that has not been discussed before?
A military operation of this magnitude??? So this is a consequence of what happened a little earlier!
What new things have we learned? The fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine is defending itself and does not sit down to give up? The fact that part of the population is frantically opposed to the fact that our people have come to liberate them?
Everything was clear for a long time, only the degree of frantic and frostbitten and skakuasov and banderlogs has constantly increased !!! So this is not a surprise, everything went to that ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: rocket757

So this is not a surprise, it all went to that ...

Their 30-odd years led to this

[Himalayan]

The Brits have not yet answered for the Skripal cat

[Seryoga64]

And what about the shaves?

[rocket757]

The impudent themselves and their cousins ​​consider themselves to be among those who, like, are "arbiters of the destinies of the whole world" !!! stating so-so, for the completely crazy ... the world is ruled by money, very big money and no matter in whose hands it is, those guys know how to agree when exactly their well-being is threatened! here they are, once again.

[rocket757]

They were led, they were preparing others, and they constantly jump on us!
The big political game of big, rich uncles (clubs, lodges and everything else) ... i.e. nothing new, basically!
All the small ones are pawns, a clearing on which the big uncles arrange their bloody games!
So it was and so it will be for a long time.

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

So what's so new

a lot of new things happened and Yuri Podolyaka, well done, very quickly showed some of the important changes on the channel.
For example, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their special squads have clearly shown that they are ready to sacrifice Ukrainians even for their own petty goals - for example, shelling their own city for the sake of fake news that the Russian Federation did it or firing from a residential area, causing retaliatory and inevitable losses of the uninvolved. Cases have become more frequent and, in fact, have become massive cases when employees of the Armed Forces of Ukraine rob and crack down on civilians not far from their positions.
If earlier the Armed Forces of Ukraine positioned themselves as part of the people, now this is not the case. They turned into brutal mercenaries.
What else happened? APU has practically lost mobility

[rocket757]

Quote: yehat2

For example, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their special squads have clearly shown that they are ready to sacrifice Ukrainians even for their petty goals.

What, no one has done this before?
And what, it was not obvious that everything was going to this?
And what, it was not obvious that they ... or rather, they make invaders on the territory that was friendly to us, dear?
And what, it was not obvious who was in charge there and what should this lead to?
Lots of obvious things ... many, many people have talked about this. The author also did not stay away from this topic and he made the same conclusions.
Here's how to convey all this to those who jump to the tune of the "impudent piper", this is now the task of our leadership .... it will not be easy, but it is necessary to do it.

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

What, no one has done this before?

acted, but skillfully pretended that this was not the case.
now they work so clumsily that there is a mass of direct evidence

[rocket757]

The stakes have risen to impossible ... they also have no time to be silly.
Moreover, everything will be blamed on "the clown and all the rest, spiritualized", if they are really locked up, and they simply give up the rest, they have the opportunity to lie and hang noodles on all erect, uncovered ears around them.

[yehat2]

not on a clown - they will dump on the Russian Federation

[rocket757]

So it's all for us too!
You can’t blame a lot on the winner, he can in response, in the form of moralizing, charge very painfully.
In general, we, then, will not care for all their lamentations ... we will have our worries through the roof.

[yehat2]

another patriot

[rocket757]

The question is, what are you expecting?

[yehat2]

what began in Ukraine will not end soon - this is obvious
and no one knows how difficult and expensive it will be
That's why

Quote: rocket757

So it's all for us too!

speak inappropriately.
or did you decide to solve everything there alone and you know how, but we just don’t know?

[rocket757]

Long, difficult and expensive, the result is not yet obvious ... final and understandable to everyone.
What hasn't been mentioned yet??? from what he wrote about from the very beginning.
As for all the same ... in relation to all the fuss that they started over the hill, a significant part of our citizens treat it that way.
Complex geopolitical, economic, military aspects need to be considered separately and more carefully, the only way.

[yehat2]

I don’t care about foreign fuss either, but the fact that my salary fell by almost half in a week along with the ruble doesn’t care anymore.
Have you thought about how the social program will cost now? Under the old course, old people did not make ends meet - and now half hang themselves.
And how do you like Nabiullina's gift, a discount rate of 20+ percent?
Because of this, a whole list of industries has frozen in the country. Do you think it will affect your life?

[rocket757]

Quote: yehat2

I don’t care about foreign fuss either, but the fact that my salary fell by almost half in a week along with the ruble doesn’t care anymore.

What is your starting point? The price of a hamburger in a geyropa, or what?
For the majority, this is not relevant ... domestic prices will swing up, inflation will be higher than planned, BUT, you show, find a country in the dollar-euro zone where everything is good and blissful ??? And this is just the beginning...
Of course, for our citizens it doesn’t matter how they live over the hill, the main criterion is their refrigerator ... well, do you think we are waiting in line for ... hedgehogs?
At the expense of the economic bloc in the government ... I have no words, only expressions.
BUT, according to the aspect that someone began to lack borrowed funds, everything is very difficult and it is worth listening to the opinion of experts.

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

inflation will be higher than planned

fabulously said. Name at least one year where real inflation did not exceed the plan.
As for the current inflation, it exceeded the plan already at the end of January. And since the beginning of the operation on January 1, the ruble has already fallen by more than 40% and continues to fall.
40 percent is not just a little over. It's simple . I need to raise the requirements for the contract right now by 60 thousand in order to somehow compensate for the loss of the ruble's solvency. And I suspect that this is not the final bottom - it will be even worse.
And it's not about foreign hamburgers. We do not have the USSR and it will not be possible to encapsulate our prices - it will turn out like in Venezuela. The official prices are one, and everyone lives on the other.

[rocket757]

We are talking and arguing about the same thing, only we do not agree on the scale.
Anyway, the direction is one way.
Here, by the way, is an interesting question ... we have a lot more dissatisfied with the activities of the government than satisfied ones ... so why don't we have such a large unification of all those dissatisfied into one single force, party, movement .... yes, at least an elective.
If you look, count those who are members of some kind of party, so an insignificant part of the population turns out ... where are the rest of them ???
Amazing
I can’t understand anything anymore, when it’s bad, when there is discontent, the very logic of events pushes everyone to unite into one group, which can influence the processes taking place in the country.
For example, what do the election indicators prove??? Only one thing, we still have not learned the lessons of history and are poking back and forth without meaning, not one step closer to at least some specific goal ...
Okay, something got me in the wrong place .... I learned something about negotiations in addition to another, something that makes me angry .....
There is a risk that they will again be excommunicated from the discussion, as before. Nizya I am falling out of the right agenda!

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

so why don't we have such a large association of all the dissatisfied in one single force, party, movement .... yes, at least an elective.

this is the main work of dividing the moods of the population.
any non-systemic person or group that crystallizes people around itself immediately starts spreading rot - look what happens to Navalny, Platoshkin and a number of others
plus they constantly bribe people within the movements to split up and fight each other or pretend that they act in the interests of the people. The most obvious example is the New People Party, which immediately became a branch of the United Russia, or the treacherous tricks of Maxim Shevchenko. In general, this is not accidental - this is a systematic work of the special services.

[rocket757]

Quote: yehat2

next to others

Let's analyze those that are not even close and of course others. Because the options listed earlier, although different, are losing by definition. You can't bet on nothing, you can't just go back to the past....

[yehat2]

I stand on the left positions, closest to the late Stalinist interpretation of Marxism and proceed from the premise that if we unite, then only around the left, because I see all other alternatives as completely losing for the country and citizens.
Return to the past? And which one exactly?
Personally, I absolutely do not want to restore the USSR of the 70-80s model.
Not because I was bad there, on the contrary! But because the state and society have already been struck from the inside by a bunch of internal diseases.
Most of all I like the state organization of the USSR of the 52-53s model - in my opinion, this was the most perfect design of the USSR in its entire history, but there were problems there too - the war mowed down a critically many competent personnel of 38-40s who understood what they were building and where go. And it was this factor that, unfortunately, allowed Khrushchev and other "comrades" to essentially carry out a counter-revolution
Therefore, personally, I want the restoration of the synthesis of the societies of the USSR 38-40 and 52-53. First of all, the economic and state system, based on the Stalinist understanding of where to row. Explore what it is at your leisure. And Platoshkin, unfortunately, goes not there, but at least in a close direction. And having strengthened that society, it will already be possible to talk about real socialism and its improvement.

[rocket757]

Our socialist past can be divided into stages, it is true.
Each stage has its own advantages and disadvantages ... this is generally natural and inherent in any economic, political formation.
In our case, everything depends on the first person and his environment!!! But this is not safe, because the formed, administrative-political leader ... let's say, the SYSTEM OF POWER / MANAGEMENT, was often defective and did not seek to be corrected in any way.
Those. one can argue endlessly about the role of the individual in the history of the country, and the role of a one-party system that nominates leaders to all important government positions and so on and so forth.
And the truth again remains somewhere around the corner.
Now, it is difficult to build a new system, such that people would support it.
To build on the criticism of the current government, without an understandable, positive development program ... no, no, people are not ready to change the awl for soap.
Promise that it will be like then, under socialism ... no, no, this is not real, many will not believe, or they will resist with all their might.
Build on the principle of a mobilization economy, everything for the "front", everything for victory !!! I can't imagine how people who live now can be captivated by this ...
In general, it turns out that we want all the best, but we don’t understand how to achieve this, moreover, without bothering too much and without big losses of at least those benefits that we have !!!
In general, this is already an academic question for a whole group of scientists, philosophers, theorists .... we need a whole theory, a program that the masses can understand and accept.

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

In our case, everything depends on the first person and his environment!!! But this is not safe, because the formed, administrative-political leader ... let's say, the SYSTEM OF POWER / MANAGEMENT, was often defective and did not seek to be corrected in any way.
Those. about the role of the individual in the history of the country, and the role of the one-party system

The USSR did not always have a one-party system.
Take the 30s for example. Formally, there was 1 party and 1 Central Committee of the party, but in this Central Committee there were several groups that had completely different opinions. The same Molotov, Kamenev and Stalin - 3 different positions.
The fact of the matter is that the one-party system according to the tracing paper of the 80s is not a property of all periods. Khrushchev began to get rid of the existence of councils and competition of different opinions, and at all levels of government.
So you, formally recognizing, continue to consider the USSR the same throughout history. Get rid of stamps!

[rocket757]

They made me laugh ... I don’t want to teach you, it’s not interesting, but if we talk about anything, it’s about how the 1936 USSR constitution changed the very system of government of the country ... compare with the 1924 constitution and the earlier constitution of the RSFSR 1918.
The stages of the "long road", as from democracy, the power of the soviets, have reached the control system of the party bureaucratic elite !!! which ceased to be controlled by anyone but itself.
In general, evolution with a minus sign.

[yehat2]

you keep posting myths.
There are natural changes, and there are under the pressure of circumstances.
to begin with, for yourself, separate the cutlets from the flies.
there was no straight path, there were several segments
some kind of speech about the path can only be started under Brezhnev, but this is essentially its completion.

[rocket757]

What do you think, is it a long way, is it a flat, flat road? You sho, spent your whole life in the office and did not leave the outskirts?
So I’ll tell you a secret, the long way DOES NOT HAPPEN, it’s if you leave the office and go, go ...

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

Now, it is difficult to build a new system, such that people would support it.

building any system is difficult
but it's easy to build taking into account the elementary requirements of society!
who is stopping you from lowering VAT, making a normal tax system in which not everything goes to MSCs? Who prevents not to reduce spending on social programs? What's stopping you from making small business easier?
YES, who's stopping you from simply uniting the numbers of TIN, pension, passport and other documents under a single identifier?
Who is preventing the return of normal quality control of products and other goods? And a loan without interest on the first home?
There are thousands of simple things that will make life easier.
They just do not.
All this is possible even in the current system - it is enough to turn the outbuilding at the top.

[rocket757]

The current system, the power of the rich. The system serves interEsy only the rich and their servants.
For everyone else, only to the extent that it would not overheat the cauldron of contradictions between those who are the productive forces and those who live at the expense of them.
And then, from the greed and greed of the ruling elite, everything is kept on the verge, crossing which a social explosion can occur ... even in our society, our people, which are distinguished by great patience.

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

And then, from the greed and greed of the ruling elite, everything is kept on the verge

feudalism behaved this way for a very long time and held on because people could not imagine other relations, but as significant capital and capitalism appeared, feudalism was completely supplanted in just a century and a half in Europe - first by monarchies, and then by capitalism proper.
My point is that now we have a very large social pressure and there is no explosion because the necessary accompanying conditions for it are constantly being destroyed.

[rocket757]

For a long time nothing happens, at one click, if there is no appropriate preparation, there are no suitable conditions, and so on and so forth.
We have no prerequisites that it could explode ... because the Western special services, various offices, work so hard on our youth ... the most active, crazy mass.
If our authorities miss this moment, anything can happen, not good.
Only parents CANNOT resist this!!! This is a task for everyone, without exception.

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

because the western

No, they do it locally.
at a specific municipal level, our very specific brothers are removing unnecessary candidates. I especially liked the accusations a week before the elections that the collected signatures were forged.

[rocket757]

Political struggle, has never been easy, honest ....
There are various time-tested methods.
We must learn and fight, there is no other way.

[yehat2]

Quote: rocket757

For a long time nothing happens, at one click, if there is no appropriate preparation, there are no suitable conditions, etc.

is happening, but nothing good is an example of the riots after the Navalnov extras or the riots in Alma-Ata or the riots in Paris

Quote: rocket757

because Western special services, different offices

basically these are our brothers - no foreigners.

Quote: rocket757

Only parents resist this

parents should not resist, but teach their children. Let the children themselves resist - they don't need nannies.
But the main thing is that our authorities, systematically removing the ideological active leaders of the opposition, create the protest as disgusting as possible, because it begins to be led by outcasts and any such protest will inevitably end only with a big swearing.
Therefore, instead of protecting children, it is better to fight so that adequate leaders and bearers of ideas are not spread rot, so that children follow them. Take the same Navalny. Well, not everything in his movement was bad, there were sincere people and good undertakings. But they were all essentially repressed, banned any activity.
And if, along with Navalny, there were 5-7 more movements with healthy ideas, people would follow them and would not be engaged in nonsense, but the authorities are destroying them. Engines of positive constructive ideas for society. There remain populists, chameleons and outright scumbags.

[rocket757]

Quote: yehat2

going on but no good

missed... nothing SIGNIFICANT happens.

[rocket757]

So, clarification...why try to convince a person with a stable opinion of their own...usually a waste of time.
We need to navigate the new generation, teach them, prepare them, they are our future!
It is not for nothing that Tiktoker bloggers were gathered in the stripes and aimed at a specific task, to stir up our youth, set them against our state, or rather against the authorities.
To all appearances, it is much easier to drive bad ideas into the brains of young people, or rather, it is generally possible than for most adult, independent citizens of the country.
It is necessary to teach how to build the future of those who will survive before the start of construction, at least.

[kytx]

Wow! Brought to the handle.

Lord forgive them for they don't know what they're doing.
(C) Scripture

But according to the scripture, no way. call

[bober1982]

The struggle is not between Ukrainians and Russians, but between Satan and God.
The Russian army is now saving the world from the total kingdom of demons.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bober1982

The Russian army is now saving the world from the total kingdom of demons.

It is obvious. Thanks.

[bober1982]

Quote: tihonmarine

It is obvious

As one Orthodox priest said ........ only thanks to Russian weapons, our planet will not turn into one big foul.

[Ros 56]

That's right, you are absolutely right, whoever does not understand this is just a fool.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: bober1982

kingdoms of demons.

"Shaitans"! - Ramzan Kadyrov...

[gridasov]

Humanity from its ignorance again slides into the past. No one needs help or rescue - this is a cover for the inability to solve problems at their level. Sooner or later, Ukraine itself would have found its place in the community of strong states. And since everyone sees what path she is on, it is not difficult to predict the result. War is not the best way to solve problems. Russia, as well as any country, needs to develop scientific and technical potential and this is the key to success and development. We have become less educated and do not see that the common enemy, so to speak, is the lack of efficient energy production technologies. The lack of optimized methods of working with information that would not create a degradation of people's minds, but would allow them to live harmoniously and develop in positive directions. And of course now we live every day from scratch because someone imagined himself responsible for the development of mankind as a whole. And of course this applies to all parties to conflicts. It is a pity, of course, to see how everyone attacked Russia, not remembering how many years its leaders said that an unstable stone would fall and there would be noise and din. Therefore, there is no way back and the Victory will be won by the one who understands what it is and what should be done after that to keep it.

[Lech from Android.]

In the West, the gloss of civilization has fallen off and the mug of cave Russophobia has peeped out in all its glory.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The veneer of civilization has fallen off in the West

Of civilization, the West has only a suit from Armani! And the cave cannibal essence has not gone away!

[gridasov]

By the way, this has been seen for a long time in the inability or methods of not effectively solving many issues. All this has led to the current situation. Although they will now fill their countries with additional labor force. And I think it was pre-planned. Women and children have always been the best trophy of war.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: gridasov

No one needs help or rescue - this is a cover for the inability to solve problems at their level.

Rescue of the drowning, the work of the drowning themselves. There are two ways out, one is to drown, the other is to survive. Who does not want to live must die.

[gridasov]

This is what I always say, that the aspect of viability or natural selection always hangs over our existence and the choice of paths and decisions that we choose.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: gridasov

This is what I always say that the aspect of viability or natural selection always hangs over our existence and the choice of paths and decisions that we choose.

In general, I realized that they do not have the instinct of self-preservation, or there are a lot of drugs.

[LAWNER]

There is a war of Russian and European Ideas going on ... And who wins is clear from the performances in the observer countries ...
And the principle - "do not eat, so I will bite" the losers will not help.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: LAWNER

There is a war of Russian and European Ideas going on.

Is it difficult to explain the difference between them?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Is it difficult to explain the difference between them?

What is the idea, there are no ideas. Some are trying to conquer the world, while others are on the defensive.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: tihonmarine

Some are trying to conquer the world, while others are on the defensive.

And who exactly captures and who defends depends solely on which side of the barricades the commentator is on.

[LAWNER]

I agree .. With a little clarification .. 75 years ago, some attacked, others defended themselves. Some, in accordance with their ideology, evacuated people and enterprises. Others blocked cities in the hope of starving to death. A few years later, the conditions changed. The defenders became attackers. And what did the defenders do to protect their idiology? give to the peoples.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And who exactly captures and who defends depends solely on which side of the barricades the commentator is on.

The answer is incorrect. Only the Anglo-Saxons capture, and the rest defend. Let once again everyone on the site will see, starting from 1901:

1901 - the introduction of troops in Colombia.
1902 - the invasion of Panama.
1903 - the entry of troops into Honduras, the Dominican Republic, Syria.
1904 - the entry of troops into Korea, Morocco.
1904-1905 - intervention in the Russo-Japanese War.
1905 - Intervention in the Revolution in Honduras.
1905 - the deployment of troops to Mexico.
1905 - the introduction of troops in Korea.
1906 - the invasion of the Philippines.
1906-1909 - the invasion of Cuba.
1907 - operations in Nicaragua.
1907 - Intervention in the Revolution in the Dominican Republic.
1907 - participation in the war of Honduras with Nicaragua.
1908 - the invasion of Panama.
1910 - the invasion of the Bluefields and Corinto (Nicaragua).
1911 - Intervention in Honduras.
1911 - Genocide in the Philippines.
1911 - the introduction of troops in China.
1912 - capture of Havana (Cuba).
1912 - Intervention in Panama during the election.
1912 - the invasion of Honduras.
1912-1933 - the occupation of Nicaragua.
1914 - intervention in the Dominican Republic.
1914-1918 is a series of invasions of Mexico.
1914-1934 - the occupation of Haiti.
1916-1924 - the occupation of the Dominican Republic.
1917-1933 - the occupation of Cuba.
1918-1922 - the occupation of the Russian Far East.
1918-1920 - the entry of troops into Panama.
1919 - landing of troops in Costa Rica.
1919 - war against the Serbs in Dolmatia on the side of Italy.
1919 - Intervention in Honduras during the election.
1920 - intervention in Guatemala.
1922 - intervention in Turkey.
1922-1927 - intervention in China.
1924-1925 - the invasion of Honduras.
1925 - military action in Panama.
1926 - the invasion of Nicaragua.
1927-1934 - the occupation of China.
1932 - the invasion of El Salvador.
1936 - intervention in Spain.
1937 - war with Japan.
1937 - intervention in Nicaragua, coup d'etat.
1939 - the introduction of troops in China.
1941-1945 - genocide of the civilian population of Germany (Dresden, Hamburg).
1945 - a nuclear attack on Japan.
1945-1991 - sabotage activity against the USSR. (The invasion of air possession - more than 5000, parachute landing - more than 140, direct sabotage. The total budget - 13 trillions of dollars).
1946 - punitive operations in Yugoslavia.
1946-1949 - the bombing of China.
1947-1948 - recolonization of Vietnam, genocide.
1947-1949 - military operations in Greece.
1948-1953 - military operations in the Philippines.
1948 - military coup in Peru.
1948 - military coup in Nicaragua.
1948 - A military coup in Costa Rica.
1949-1953 - attempts to overthrow the government in Albania.
1950 - Punitive Operations in Puerto Rico.
1950-1953 - intervention in Korea.
1951 - military assistance to Chinese rebels.
1953-1964 - power special operations in British Guyana.
1953 - the overthrow of Mossadyk, who received in the referendum 99.9% of the vote.
1953 - Forced Deportation of Inuit (Greenland).
1954 - Overthrow of the government in Guatemala: Invasion codenamed Operation PBSUCCESS and coup d'état by CIA mercenaries against President Jacobo Árbenz, who was about to carry out a deep land reform and nationalize the lands of the United Fruit Company. After the overthrow of Arbenz, four decades of military terror and civil war begin, in which about 140 thousand people die. A truce in the civil war is signed only in 1996
1954 - Iran: The CIA and British intelligence in the course of Operation Ajax organize the overthrow of Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh. Subsequently, Iran during the reign of Mohammed Reza Pahlavi becomes the most important ally of the United States in the Middle East.
1956 - the beginning of military assistance to Tibetan rebels in the fight against China.
1957-1958 is an attempt to overthrow the government in Indonesia.
1958 - Occupation of Lebanon: US intervenes in the Lebanon Crisis
1958 - The bombing of Indonesia.
1958 - China: In the confrontation between the PRC and Taiwan over the islands of Kinmen and Matsu, the United States sends warships and marines to support Taiwan
1959 - the introduction of troops in Laos.
1959 - punitive operations in Haiti.
1960 - military operations in Ecuador.
1960 - invasion of Guatemala.
1960 - Support for a military coup in El Salvador.
1960-1965 - interference in the internal affairs of the Congo. Mobutu support.
1961-1964 - a military coup in Brazil.
1961 - terrorist war against Cuba with the use of bacteriological weapons. A group of US-backed Cuban militants conduct an unsuccessful operation in the Bay of Pigs.
1962 - Cuba: During the Caribbean Crisis, the island is subject to a total blockade.
1962 - punitive operations in Guatemala.
1963-1966 - coup d'état and punitive operations in the Dominican Republic.
1964 is a punitive operation in Panama.
1964 - support for the coup in Brazil.
1964-1974 - interference in the internal affairs of Greece.
1964 - Laos: American aircraft and ground troops conduct a military operation in northeastern Laos. After many years of fighting, the military solution is recognized as futile and the American intervention troops leave the country in 1973.
1964-1975 Aggression against Vietnam: US massively intervenes in the Vietnam War. During the hostilities in the country are up to 550 thousand US soldiers. The withdrawal of troops is carried out only in 1975.
1965 - coup in Indonesia, genocide.
1965 - Kazhbodzha: The United States bombards the border areas along the Vietnamese border. Thus, Cambodia was drawn into the Vietnam War.
1966 - intervention in Guatemala.
1967 - support for the coup and the subsequent fascist regime in Greece.
1968 - the hunt for Che Guevara in Bolivia.
1971-1973 - the bombing of Laos.
1971 - American military assistance during the coup in Bolivia.
1972 - the introduction of troops in Nicaragua.
1973 - the coup in Chile.
1973 - Terror in Uruguay.
1974 - support for Mobotu mode in Zaire.
1974 - preparation of aggression in Portugal.
1974 is an attempted coup in Cyprus.
1975 - the occupation of Western Sahara, the introduction of troops in Morocco.
1975 - Intervention in Australia's internal affairs.
1975 - attack on Cambodia.
1975-1989 - support for the genocide in East Timor.
1978 - military assistance to the dictator, financing of the genocide.
1979 - support for the cannibal Bokasa.
1979 - military assistance to the rebels of Yemen.
1980-1992 - military presence in El Salvador, special operations, genocide.
1980-1990 - military assistance to Iraq. A million dead in ten years.
1980 - support and financing of the Khmer Rouge.
1980 - Operation Gladio in Italy, 86 victims.
1980 is a punitive operation in South Korea.
1980 - Iran: Operation Eagle Claw to free American hostages at the American embassy in Tehran fails
1981 is an attempted coup in Zambia.
1981 - military pressure on Libya, two Libyan aircraft shot down.
1981-1990 - support for contra, terrorism, genocide.
1982 - interference in the internal affairs of Suriname.
1982-1983 - attack on Lebanon.
1982 - Genocide Support in Guatemala.
1983 - Iran/Iraq: The United States provides military support to Iran in the Iran-Iraq war in exchange for the release of American hostages in Tehran. At the same time, the United States is also supplying the Iraqi side with weapons.
1983 - Lebanon: As part of their international coalition, the United States intervenes in the Lebanese Civil War. As a result of a series of terrorist attacks, the international coalition leaves Lebanon.
1983 - intervention in Grenada: As a result of a coup d'état, a new government comes to power, focusing on the Soviet Union. This leads to the US invasion of Grenada
1983 - Interventions in the internal affairs of Angola.
1984 - Two Iranian aircraft shot down.
1984 - mining of the bays of Nicaragua.
1985 - financing of the genocide in Chad.
1986 - attack on Libya.
1986-1987 - attack on an Iranian ship in international waters, the destruction of the Iranian oil platform.
1986 - funding and military support for social terror, the seizure of natural resources.
1986 - Libya: As an act of retaliation for Libyan terrorist acts, the United States bombs targets in Tripoli and Benghazi (Operation El Dorado Canyon)
1987-1988 - participation in the Iraq war against Iran, the use of chemical weapons.
1988 - financing of terror and genocide in Turkey.
1988 - the invasion of Honduras.
1988 - Destruction of an Iranian passenger plane.
1989 - intervention in Panama.
1989 - Two Libyan aircraft shot down.
1989 - bombing in the Philippines.
1989 is a punitive operation in the Virgin Islands.
1990 - Genocide in Guatemala.
1990 - the naval blockade of Iraq.
1990 - financing of the Bulgarian opposition ($ 1,5 million)
1991 - aggression against Iraq.
1991 - Kuwait bombing.
1992-1994 - the occupation of Somalia.
1992 - genocide and terror in the seizure of the natural wealth of Angola (650.000 people destroyed).
1993-1995 - the bombing of Bosnia.
1994-1996 - terror against Iraq.
1994 is the genocide in Rwanda (about 800 000 people).
1995 - bombing of Croatia.
1998 - destruction by a missile strike of a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan.
1998 - bombing of Iraq.
1999 - aggression against Yugoslavia.
2001 - the invasion of Afghanistan.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: tihonmarine

Only the Anglo-Saxons capture, and the rest defend.

Yes Yes. I know. Defending itself from the impudent Saxons, the Principality of Moscow, located inside the current Moscow Ring Road, defended itself to the Pacific Ocean, the Bug and the Caucasus.
Em. And do not enlighten me, how we crushed the attacks of the impudent Saxons in the boxer uprising, the Finnish war, well, let there be a king.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

inside the current Moscow Ring Road, it was defended to the Pacific Ocean, the Bug and the Caucasus.
Em. And do not enlighten me, how we crushed the attacks of the impudent Saxons in the boxer uprising, the Finnish war, well, let there be a king.

This was done by my great-grandfather and his brothers at the Chinese Eastern Railway, and although I was 15 years old, I still remember what he told. And my father went through the whole Finnish. They defended the borders of the Motherland everywhere, but did not wage wars of conquest. You do not understand this, the West is closer to you. But that's whoever likes it, "whom the priest, and who the priest."

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: tihonmarine

This was done by my great-grandfather and his brothers at the Chinese Eastern Railway, and although I was 15 years old, I still remember what he told.

And what exactly? That the evil Chinese rebels marched on Moscow on foot?

Quote: tihonmarine

And my father went through the whole Finnish. They defended the borders of the Motherland everywhere, but did not wage wars of conquest.

Ahhh .... That is, it was Finland that attacked us .... What can I say, a fresh look at events, extraordinary.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And what exactly? That the evil Chinese rebels marched on Moscow on foot?

To know this, it was necessary to have such great-grandfathers who were born in the 19th century, study in a normal Soviet school, learn history not according to the school curriculum, but higher, and be a Soviet person. Then you can understand the history of those times, and what we have now.
And you won’t learn with comments, and it’s too late to teach, you are already an adult girl.
As Professor Sechenov said - "Girls learn mathematics until the age of 13, and then they no longer need it"

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: tihonmarine

To know that

And you without evasions. Clear and direct. Yes, they say, the Ihetuani attacked the Ross Empire, Finland attacked the USSR, and the rebels of the Tsar attacked the Russian Federation. Well, bolder, bolder.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And you without evasions. Clear and direct. Yes, they say, the Ihetuani attacked the Ross Empire, Finland attacked the USSR,

Well, without evasions, I wrote the words of Professor Sechenov about mathematics and about history. History is taught from childhood, and it cannot be characterized by the words "so they say and so ...". This is how they teach now only in Ukraine, where history fits into one page of a student's notebook.
And even if I write something to you, you will not read it or hear it. You only have your opinion. So if you please, dear lady, bow to you.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well I have no evasions

I started to be hypocritical. Etol I'm translating from yours into simple Russian. That's all. For tired of your lies. When, instead of recognizing that we multiplied the boxers by zero because they dared to affect the interests of our millionaires, the Finns because we needed the land, and the king’s blacks, because one interesting person was impatient to delve into the Negro natural resources, you start to crucify about the complexity history and the inability to assess whether the Negroes threatened the tsar with Russian aggression.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

I started to be hypocritical. E

I told you I don't want to get into a useless scribble with a lady from the Square.

[LAWNER]

In order not to explain for a long time, read Solovyov V.S .. His vision of the Russian Idea. Just read in the Great Soviet Encyclopedia. and not on Wikipedia.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: LAWNER

read Solovyov V.S. His vision of the Russian Idea

Laponka. In order to implement Solovyov's idea .... We first need to hang Gundyaev. With all his code. Then clean up the ROC LLC, and methods softer than Stalin's are unlikely to help. For the Augean stables. And only then say that we have an idea. And then with such personalities, Solovyov's idea ... Hmm.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Laponka. In order to implement Solovyov's idea .... We first need to hang Gundyaev. With all his code. Then clean up the ROC LLC, and methods softer than Stalin's are unlikely to help. For the Augean stables.

According to your comment, I understand that you are an adherent of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church - Ecclesia Graeco-Catholica Ucrainae. Let's leave religion alone. "Who believes in Mohammed, who - in Allah, who - in Jesus, who does not believe in anything - even in hell to spite everyone..."

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: tihonmarine

From your comment, I understand

You, as usual, sat in a puddle I am an atheist. Simply... Among all the confessions of the world, the Russian Orthodox Church is among the most greedy, and in fact the most distant, from what they proclaim faith in.
In fact, of the major ifs, only the Vatican can compete with the Russian Orthodox Church in terms of duplicity

[LAWNER]

Well, you went too far about greed. The old woman sitting on the English throne does not consider it shameful to be photographed near the piano stolen from Iraq .. Saved from the government palace of Saddam Hussein. So she seems to be the head of the Anglican Church
So many comedies have been filmed about American churches and currents. They even have a phrase - God !!!! save America. Their appeal to God is often heard in porn films. Sometimes when speaking in the Senate.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: LAWNER

Well, you went too far about greed. The old woman sitting on the English throne does not consider it shameful to be photographed near the piano stolen from Iraq ..

Take a look at Gundyaev’s photo, gifts from the Jews receiving. It will pass for an illustration of one of the deadly sins.

Quote: LAWNER

About American churches

Protestants. They preach that wealth is evidence of God's blessing. But to proclaim modesty and humility, simultaneously creating a branch of the Hermitage at home .... This is the whole Russian Orthodox Church.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: LAWNER

In Russia, even a village church looks better than a collective farm estate. And let's not even talk about the Cathedrals.

Eeeeeee? I understand you haven't read the bible. This is generally a sin for the true children of the Russian Orthodox Church, knowledge of the essence of Christianity is not for the Orthodox, let atheists study all kinds of bibles there. But have you ever seen her?
It just feels like a Papuan is telling me. About what a cool idol he was talking about, how many bananas and chickens he donated, and how everything will be with him now.
Here you believe in someone who preached modesty, abstinence, humility, renunciation of vanity, despised wealth and the rich. And at the same time, are you bragging about what a hefty prayer house you’ve built, and how many precious metals your shepherds carry around? Are you sure that this is Christianity and not Satanism? At least you mock the precepts of Jesus notably.

[LAWNER]

It is enough to understand the meaning of your pseudonym to stop arguing on this topic. Goodbye.

[Lannan Shi]

Yes Yes. Understand. I want ugly. Correspondence of behavior to the contents of the book, which is, as it were, the basis of your teaching. I spit in my soul. All sorts of nonsense is written there, but what do you now? To refuse the hyped brand of Christianity, or from cute habits that do not correspond to Christianity. Yeah. That's the kind of bastard I am.

[LAWNER]

I am a Muslim... And believe me, if our paths ever cross. Then I will show Celtic and Scandinavian mythology by personal example.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

You, as usual, sat in a puddle. I'm an atheist.

Well, I wrote to you "Leave Religion Alone" If you don't believe me, then don't insult, or maybe you forgot "I'm Charlie!".

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, I wrote to you "Leave religion alone"

And I don't touch fanatics. Until they begin to lament that they are not allowed to build another temple, or they do not try to sell Gundyaev's anti-Christianity as a national idea.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lannan Shi

And I don't touch fanatics.

Believe me, whether they are fanatics or simple believers, but I do not advise you to get into religion, especially when you do not know it. I have worked in Muslim countries a lot, and I know firsthand that it is "to climb into religion." For many, this ended not only in deprivation of health, but also in deprivation of the stomach. And I'm not speaking from the words of the media, but what I myself saw with my own eyes.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: tihonmarine

but I do not advise climbing into religion

I don't get into religion until religion gets into me. So it comes?

Quote: tihonmarine

For many, this ended not only in deprivation of health, but also in deprivation of the stomach.

Do not worry. That way, 95 percent of religiously preoccupied people are absolutely harmless to me. Send to a meeting with their spirits, I can and empty paws.

[LAWNER]

US???? Darling ... Why did you decide that we have something in common? Equaling yourself and Stalin is like asking Putin for a personal meeting with Zelensky. Stalin crushed them all ... And at the end of the war, he also unclenched the vise.

[gridasov]

Russia should launch a mechanism not of confrontation in the information space, but launch a propaganda campaign, which, in cooperation with it, opens up new opportunities. Everyone who survives and the living should think that next year will be even more difficult, and for Europe it is unimaginably more difficult. After all, few people at the philistine level pay attention to the fact that only Russia has energy resources, and this is the basis of life and the future. And Russia itself is even more engaged in the search and creation of carbon-free energy production technologies and the fundamental aspects of energy production.

[sen]

And what other channels will Yury Podolyaka be on? It looks like ours will close YouTube.

[Knell wardenheart]

Podolyaka, in my opinion, greatly distorts the retrospective, based on some kind of erroneous perception or from his own commercial interests. His current analytics is going well, regarding the general current geopolitical construction, I also generally agree with him, but when he starts broadcasting that in 2007 the Munich speech was a nightmare for the United States or that we have been almost from those times prepared for what is happening now - these are already fairy tales. Let me remind you that from 2007 to 2012, Serdyukov A.E. was in our Ministry of Defense, this person is very unsuitable for some kind of serious attitude and some kind of foreign policy claims. In 2007-2010, the West did not care much about our small games and our rhetoric, it was for this reason that a conditionally pro-Russian figure (Yanukovych) was allowed to come to power in Ukraine. We poured plenty into this comrade, we covered him (since the time of the confrontation with Yushchenko) as a pro-Russian candidate - however, Mr. Yanukovych himself, with all this, turned out to be a rather weak character, trying to maneuver beyond his abilities. We had time (4 years) to catch it - but we also didn't care too much about it, preferring to focus our attention and activity as before on gas and boblish.
As in fact and in general in most of the politics of those years - and this was the time of cheese-kefir-shelf-gas wars. With Ukraine, with the Blr., with the Baltic states. At that time, we were not interested in any stable constructions (considering what degrees of freedom Yanuka had, considering how calmly we looked at NATO activity in Georgia before 2008, considering how purely formally "integration with the union state" took place, and others), At that time, we were not very worried about the qualitative strengthening of the Armed Forces (the revelry of "Serdyukovshchina", a rather controversial readiness for the events of 2008). Apparently, we were only worried about bablishko and some ostentatious vassalage, I remember very well how the holidays of May 9 were covered in those years - on which too much attention was paid to the arrival of us "from all over the world" and especially from the post.- owls. states. Outside this, there was no real construction or accumulation of funds (despite the fact that oil was much more expensive than it is now) - the stabilization fund, formally formed in 2004, was mostly reorganized until 2010 and the opportunities for accumulating funds were used to an insignificant extent from the potential of those fat years. On the other hand, the capitals of the super-rich people grew very dynamically, as did the withdrawal of these funds abroad, their investment in project management, various Mutnyatsky "youth organizations", and window dressing.

So here I cannot agree with Comrade Podolyaka. He sees in those times some kind of roots of some kind of preparation for something, I see only resting on the laurels of "fat years". This is already a year after 2012-2013, we started to somehow swarm, judging by the permutations. It is hardly necessary to say that in 2014 we had a plan (with the exception of the Crimean operation), having a legitimate president in our hands, a solid part of the pro-Russians. support, starting civil. the conflict and rampant Bandera and banditry in the neighboring country - we practically did not use all this in any way, hoping to the last for some kind of appeasement and a deal with the West. And until 2016, we "kept" this line.
Comrade Podolyak finds some kind of golden peas in this stream of reflection and builds out of them a kind of logical chain leading to multi-way profit, and this persistent creation is very different against the background of his own style of presenting information and analytics, one gets the feeling that these are his personal fantasies. or some kind of profitable order.
Here he is engaged in reviving the golem by stuffing pieces of paper with magical symbols into his mouth.

[gridasov]

Yuri Podolyaka presents information that is indicated by his individual abilities for analysis. Of course, not everything should be believed, but he himself says that this is modeling and forecasting situations based, again, on subjective assessments of information sources. But it is worth paying tribute that there are many inputs for individual analysis and conclusions by admirers of his information channels. And for this we thank him very much.

[Baikal57]

For two days, Duda has been talking on the phone to everyone about NATO peacekeepers in Ukraine. We sniffed with Zelya to divide Ukraine as soon as Orban also says "Yes!" immediately possible and the New Order of Europe. Such Yalta-2 in the same palace of Stalin.