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Roskosmos demanded that the space agencies of the ISS partner countries lift sanctions from the state corporation

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The head of the Roscosmos State Corporation Dmitry Rogozin demanded that the space agencies of the ISS partner countries lift sanctions from the state corporation. These requests were sent to NASA (USA), the Canadian Space Agency (CSA) and the European Space Agency (ESA).


This is stated in the message published by Rogozin in the Telegram channel.

The head of Roskosmos calls the sanctions imposed on the enterprises of the corporation illegal. In addition, their price is too high for everyone. It is not necessary to destroy the cooperation of states in the matter of the peaceful exploration of outer space.


Rogozin urged Western colleagues to think about the fate of the International Space Station weighing 500 tons, the fall of which on the earth's surface can lead to catastrophic consequences. At the same time, the probability of its “landing” on Russian territory is much lower than on the territories of countries that have announced the imposition of sanctions against Russia.

It is worth thinking about the price of international space cooperation maniacally destroyed by the West

- wrote Rogozin.

Sanctions against Russia were initiated on February 24 by US President Joe Biden. They provide for a ban on the supply of high-tech equipment to the Russian Federation, which negatively affected a number of sectors of the Russian economy, including the space industry.
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  1. nPuBaTuP
    nPuBaTuP 12 March 2022 15: 24
    +1
    As far as I know, the ISS does not fly over Russia at all ..... but over fsh just the same .....
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 12 March 2022 15: 29
      +17
      Do not destroy the cooperation of states in the matter peaceful development outer space
      We will temporarily have to forget about peaceful space, If our cats interfere with them, then what can we say about space, even more so about peace.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 13 March 2022 08: 29
        +2
        Here Rogozin annoys me.
        He gives out a bunch of promises, how someday he will do something later, and as the years pass, instead of deeds - new promises.
        Now, instead of a tough position - "we will leave the ISS completely if you continue to play with fire", he is humiliated by some kind of requests.
        Abomination.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 12 March 2022 15: 35
      +9
      The tougher we talk with the West, and they don’t understand otherwise, the more complaisant they will be in our dialogue.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 March 2022 15: 40
        +3
        Quote: Thought Giant
        The tougher we talk with the West, and they don’t understand otherwise, the more complaisant they will be in our dialogue.

        That's right, the West understands one thing when they hurt him - they beat him in the bared muzzle with a soldier's boot.
    3. Genry
      Genry 12 March 2022 17: 14
      -2
      Quote: nPuBaTuP
      As far as I know, the ISS does not fly over Russia at all ...

      Is there no space over Russia?
      1. slipped
        slipped 12 March 2022 17: 44
        +10
        So more precisely - where and how and over whom the station flies:



        Territories in Russia are shown in red.
  2. Ermak_Timofeich
    Ermak_Timofeich 12 March 2022 15: 28
    +5
    think about the fate of the International Space Station weighing 500 tons, the fall of which on the earth's surface can lead to catastrophic consequences.

    Is it possible to drop it on purpose?
    1. Jekakiller258
      Jekakiller258 12 March 2022 16: 09
      +3
      I took it right off my tongue.... laughing
    2. kirosi
      kirosi 12 March 2022 16: 27
      +1
      and where do you want to go?
      1. Ermak_Timofeich
        Ermak_Timofeich 12 March 2022 16: 30
        +5
        Doesn't matter, but on target.
      2. Mylenef
        Mylenef 12 March 2022 17: 00
        +13
        There is a certain pentahedron in America, in the center there is a gazebo, that would be there
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 12 March 2022 19: 13
          +7
          Quote: Mylenef
          There is a certain pentahedron in America, in the center there is a gazebo, that would be there


          I understood correctly? winked

  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 12 March 2022 15: 29
    +9
    And that they rushed to shoot sanctions in a race? On a mobile camera .... But they said a long time ago that we need to build our own station ... Now, just return our crew, unhook our spaceships from the station, remotely disconnect our modules from a single station life support systems. Perhaps the blocking or dismantling of some critical equipment in our modules. But, there will be no sense in Rogozin's screaming and crying, some immediate measures are needed to protect our interests on the ISS.
    1. Raven 95
      Raven 95 12 March 2022 16: 16
      +5
      And then you can adjust the orbit.
      Down and down....
    2. kirosi
      kirosi 12 March 2022 16: 29
      -3
      this is from the category "to spite the mother-in-law to freeze her ears so that her son-in-law was without ears"
  4. XNUMX%
    XNUMX% 12 March 2022 15: 36
    +2
    Here is another correct step. Let them think now what will happen if the sanctions are not lifted. If they have enough brains, they will be removed, if not, they will suffer.
  5. Yura
    Yura 12 March 2022 15: 41
    +1
    Rogozin urged Western colleagues to think about the fate of the International Space Station weighing 500 tons, the fall of which on the earth's surface can lead to catastrophic consequences. At the same time, the probability of its “landing” on Russian territory is much lower than on the territories of countries that have announced the imposition of sanctions against Russia.
    Rogozin something this time is softer than ever, no trampolines, panicles, he warned them, and then they say, as you know. And after all, the rogue knows that the sanctions will not be lifted, gives them the opportunity to roll back? It's unlikely to happen, he understands that, so what is he warning them about? Have we started something?
  6. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 12 March 2022 15: 47
    +5
    Well, since Rogozin himself demanded the lifting of sanctions, then they will cancel it.
  7. sen
    sen 12 March 2022 15: 50
    -1
    The head of the Roscosmos State Corporation Dmitry Rogozin demanded that the space agencies of the ISS partner countries lift sanctions from the state corporation.

    He is in his repertoire. The United States has gone for broke and only tough retaliatory sanctions and successes in the special operation in Ukraine can affect them.
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 March 2022 15: 50
    +4
    So undock our segments and let them fly. Well, no, so no, why stand on ceremony with them.
    1. fa2998
      fa2998 12 March 2022 16: 04
      +3
      Well otstykut, and then what? Our launch vehicles are full of sanctioned parts and equipment on Earth. And the ISS is operated from the USA.
      Rogozin is more worried about his position. If the sanctions are not lifted, he can be reduced, he will have to work as a songwriter. crying hi
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 12 March 2022 16: 06
        -6
        They will not be able to fly without our presence, this piece of iron will collapse and we saw them in the coffin along with their sanctions.
        1. fa2998
          fa2998 12 March 2022 16: 13
          +4
          Don't you feel sorry for your money? Only recently they "brought" their new modules. wassat wassat
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 12 March 2022 16: 24
            +1
            Well, I’m ready to bend down for some money, but we’ll survive somehow, especially since problems appear on the ISS almost every six months.
          2. poquello
            poquello 12 March 2022 16: 28
            -1
            Quote: fa2998
            Don't you feel sorry for your money? Only recently they "brought" their new modules. wassat wassat

            modules will be unhooked, they will begin to assemble a new one, their own
            1. fa2998
              fa2998 12 March 2022 16: 50
              +5
              Quote: poquello
              modules will be unhooked, they will begin to assemble a new one, their own

              The last module, in my opinion, was assembled for 20-25 years. Too lazy to google. hi
              1. poquello
                poquello 12 March 2022 16: 53
                0
                Quote: fa2998
                Quote: poquello
                modules will be unhooked, they will begin to assemble a new one, their own

                The last module, in my opinion, was assembled for 20-25 years. Too lazy to google. hi

                violet, modular is planned, if you want to attach it, you want to unhook it
              2. Hariton laptev
                Hariton laptev 12 March 2022 20: 20
                +1
                It is clear that the branches are slightly different, but .. Until 2014, in the Republic of Adygea, gardens, if any, still remained from the time of the king of peas and private traders climbed on them. And now, in less than 8 years, huge gardens, vineyards, greenhouses, processing. It is clear that where are the gardens and where is space, but as long as they bring us from behind a hillock, there will be no damn thing of our own. China, together with assembly lines, demanded a full cycle for itself, both bodies and engines, and we were only happy with a screwdriver assembly. As a result, KAMAZ switched to assembling models of the 80s. The question is whether such bulk imports are needed? Maybe it's time to do it? Gritting your teeth, straining, making a mistake, or again the States in the ass .. we will kiss.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 12 March 2022 21: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Hariton Laptev
                  It is clear that where are the gardens and where is space, but as long as they bring us from behind a hillock, there will be no damn thing of our own. China, together with assembly lines, demanded a full cycle for itself, both bodies and engines, and we were only happy with a screwdriver assembly. As a result, KAMAZ switched to assembling models of the 80s. The question is whether such bulk imports are needed?

                  IMHO, such moments should be paralleled, but why did they take about China and KAMAZ, maybe they meant about KAMAZ in China?
                  1. Hariton laptev
                    Hariton laptev 12 March 2022 23: 04
                    0
                    Yesterday it was infa that the States stopped the supply of engines for KamAZ. And from Europe there are no supplies of stamping for welding cabins. As a result, KAMAZ decided to switch us to a complete set of v engines, Soviet-designed gearboxes, and cabs of the 80s, the production of which the plant can switch to.
                    And about China, one of the secrets of the Chinese miracle was the requirement of the Chinese government to corporations wishing to open assembly lines for their cars. The requirement was banal to open a full cycle from stamping bodies to the production of engines. As a result, China received a technology base and, as a result, independence.
                    1. poquello
                      poquello 13 March 2022 00: 04
                      0
                      Quote: Hariton Laptev
                      As a result, KAMAZ decided to switch us to a complete set of v engines, Soviet-designed gearboxes, and cabs of the 80s, the production of which the plant can switch to.

                      uh, ett the Germans broke off the latest models with their cabins, and the cabins of the 80s ett are the traditional Soviet design of the Bashkir

                      Quote: Hariton Laptev
                      The requirement was banal to open a full cycle from stamping bodies to the production of engines.

                      what about KAMAZ?
                      1. Hariton laptev
                        Hariton laptev 13 March 2022 07: 32
                        +1
                        KAMAZ has nothing to do with it, it was said in a different context
            2. Hariton laptev
              Hariton laptev 12 March 2022 20: 11
              +1
              Offered downvoted.
              1. poquello
                poquello 12 March 2022 20: 52
                +1
                Quote: Hariton Laptev
                Offered downvoted.

                you probably fell under the raid of Elon Musk's Witness sect, it happens
        2. Infinity
          Infinity 12 March 2022 16: 20
          +3
          Quote: Ros 56
          They will not be able to fly without our presence.

          Yes, and ours is not particularly able to. Therefore, ROSS will be built from scratch.
          What can I say if the same "Zvezda" is already breathing heavily, it has been leaking air due to cracks in the intermediate chamber since 2019. "Dawn" is not so problematic (cracks were also found in it, but not through), but no less old. That's why they don't want to undock. The Nauka module, after repair and replacement of tanks, as I know, lost the ability to undock after integration into the ISS and maneuver. In general, it's a pity for the module, it only worked for six months. As well as "Pier".
        3. kirosi
          kirosi 12 March 2022 16: 31
          +4
          why would she fall? Or are you not aware of the recent story with the docking of our Science module, when the station was almost ruined? And who stabilized it then, you know? So they can be looking for a calmer place, without circus clowns like Rogozin.
      2. slipped
        slipped 12 March 2022 17: 01
        -6
        Quote: fa2998
        Our launch vehicles are full of sanctioned parts.


        There are no sanctions details in our launch vehicles. At all.
      3. HUNTERDON
        HUNTERDON 12 March 2022 17: 29
        +5
        I cannot fully agree with you. The control of the ISS in terms of finding and correcting the orbit is controlled by the Russian side, since only our "Progress" is the control side of the ISS. Americans don't have that option.
  9. Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 12 March 2022 16: 00
    +3
    Hand face....
  10. Maks1995
    Maks1995 12 March 2022 16: 05
    -2
    They wrote that 60% of the station belongs to amers.
    (They may drop .... on Russia) (((

    So the question is unlikely to have been thought through.
    Although the arguments are reasonable, after the demarche of Roskosmos with OneWeb, they are unlikely to go much to meet.
    Minimum only if

    Or did he take the responsibility? If something happened - he kind of warned - they would transfer the "effective manager" with an increase
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 12 March 2022 16: 09
    0
    Roskosmos demanded that the space agencies of the ISS partner countries lift sanctions from the state corporation
    .
    It is worth thinking about the price of international space cooperation maniacally destroyed by the West
    . But it's time to decide ... are they maniacs or "partners" ???
  12. fa2998
    fa2998 12 March 2022 16: 15
    +1
    Quote: Max1995
    If something happened - he kind of warned - they would transfer the "effective manager" with an increase

    I think the rank of Deputy Prime Minister. No less! laughing laughing
  13. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 12 March 2022 16: 18
    +2
    This is all a talking shop - he demanded, declared ... Concrete actions are needed.
  14. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 12 March 2022 16: 23
    +4
    Quote: Ermak_Timofeich
    think about the fate of the International Space Station weighing 500 tons, the fall of which on the earth's surface can lead to catastrophic consequences.

    Is it possible to drop it on purpose?

    They do it with high certainty. They are thrown into a certain square of the Pacific Ocean, where ships rarely go, there are no permanent shipping routes. Deserted place, away from the islands. If they dump there many different stations that have worked out many times, large satellites, then God himself ordered that the 440-ton station be dumped there. True, it is divided into elements, spreading apart what can reach the Earth. Lungs burn out before reaching.
  15. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 12 March 2022 16: 27
    0
    Quote: Max1995
    They wrote that 60% of the station belongs to amers.
    (They may drop .... on Russia) (((

    So the question is unlikely to have been thought through.
    Although the arguments are reasonable, after the demarche of Roskosmos with OneWeb, they are unlikely to go much to meet.
    Minimum only if

    Or did he take the responsibility? If something happened - he kind of warned - they would transfer the "effective manager" with an increase


    They can not. WE CAN, of course, to the USA. They do not have ships capable of docking with OUR components, we can block this matter. The fact is that our unit is located in the BASE, in the center of mass of the station. And only from this point you can raise or lower the station. This cannot be done from any other points, the station will inevitably spin. It's like a rocker. Can only be lifted in the middle. You can't lift everything over the edge.
  16. ximkim
    ximkim 12 March 2022 16: 34
    0
    In my opinion, Rogozin is worried about the countries that have imposed sanctions against Russia.
    Well, well .. The path of the party is known, so let there be consequences ..
  17. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 12 March 2022 16: 57
    -2
    Adjust the progress to unhook the Russian segments and transfer to another orbit. And let the partners return as they wish.
  18. Bradley
    Bradley 12 March 2022 17: 42
    +3
    The head of the Roscosmos State Corporation Dmitry Rogozin demanded that the space agencies of the ISS partner countries lift sanctions from the state corporation. These requests were sent to NASA (USA), the Canadian Space Agency (CSA) and the European Space Agency (ESA).

    After OneWeb got knocked over? As a matter of principle, sanctions will not be lifted after this.
    And again, who will meet what is required?
    1. slipped
      slipped 12 March 2022 17: 49
      -4
      Quote: Bradley
      After OneWeb got knocked over? As a matter of principle, sanctions will not be lifted after this.


      Do you think we have nothing to answer their principles? laughing Wrong.
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 12 March 2022 17: 54
        +1
        Do you think we have nothing to answer their principles? laughing You are wrong.

        Whatever we answer, they can adapt. And much faster and more efficiently than we do.
        Economy, industry, technology.

        There is, of course, hope that people in Europe and the United States will get up from the prices and go to rallies. Where people's opinions matter.
        Wait and see. I hope that the people will force their countries to lift some of the sanctions.
        1. slipped
          slipped 12 March 2022 18: 37
          -1
          Quote: Bradley
          Whatever we answer, they can adapt. And much faster and more efficiently than we do.


          This is a waste of money, time and opportunities for them. I highly doubt the effectiveness. About speed too. Remind me how many years they were not able to deliver their astronauts into space? Or about the continuing shoals of Cru Dragon in every flight? Or about the cost of launching one SLS?

          Yes, in general, it doesn't matter. Here you only need to know one simple thing - our segment of the ISS RS for the first time, after an emergency undocking, for example, will be able to do without the American segment, there are no ISS ASs, it will immediately begin to fall. The Americans know this and therefore, in the near future, they will again try to conduct an experiment on the docked Cygnus to raise the orbit. The last one ended badly. But Antares will not fly anymore.
          1. Kir shadrin
            Kir shadrin 14 March 2022 12: 34
            0
            Quote: Bradley
            Or about the continuing shoals of Cru Dragon in every flight?

            Are you talking about the toilet? That's already fixed. I don't remember more bugs.

            Quote: Bradley
            Or about the cost of launching one SLS

            And how much does it cost to launch a similar launch vehicle in the Russian Federation? Ah, the Russian Federation has no analogues? And there are none in the world? Well then, first make them, and then we will compare.
            1. slipped
              slipped 14 March 2022 23: 10
              0
              Quote from Kir Shadrin
              Are you talking about the toilet? That's already fixed. I don't remember more bugs.


              No, I'm talking about the release of amyl vapor in the first flight and the failure of one of the parachutes to open on two occasions during landing.

              Quote: Bradley
              And how much does it cost to launch a similar launch vehicle in the Russian Federation?


              But Russia does not need a "similar" one. Why are we so dear? We use simpler and more reliable missiles. Let me remind you that on the usual "analogue" Proton-K we launched the LK-1 spacecraft into orbit around the Moon. Some people forget about it for some reason.



              1. Kir shadrin
                Kir shadrin 15 March 2022 10: 19
                0
                Quote: slipped

                No, I'm talking about the release of amyl vapor in the first flight

                This is a fake from Russian experts.

                Quote: slipped

                not opening one of the parachutes in two cases during landing.

                The descent of the ship proceeded normally. However, four minutes before splashdown, when four main parachutes were released, one of them did not open.
                For a while, the capsule descended on three parachutes. Only after about 30 seconds the fourth parachute opened and the ship successfully landed on the sea.

                Quote: slipped

                We use simpler and more reliable rockets.

                Perhaps that is why for the failed lunar program of the USSR, multi-launch schemes for the Proton were fenced. And now similar ones are being fenced for the Angara. https://newcomerstudio.livejournal.com/14551.html
                And how much did the development and launch of Energia cost, do you remember?
                1. slipped
                  slipped 16 March 2022 11: 31
                  0
                  Quote from Kir Shadrin
                  This is a fake from Russian experts.


                  Fake? lol well, I do not. This was also confirmed by non-Russian experts.

                  Quote from Kir Shadrin
                  However, four minutes before splashdown, when four main parachutes were released, one of them did not open.


                  In two cases? Oh well. Moreover, the last case was hidden behind the on-duty phrase about the "anomaly", but the photo surfaced on the network. Here it is:



                  Quote from Kir Shadrin
                  This is probably why, for the failed lunar program of the USSR, multi-launch schemes for the Proton were fenced.


                  There were no "multi-launch schemes for the Proton" there. LK called "Zond" flew several times and was launched with a single launch. Further, they planned to use the H-1, and it was its launches that were problematic. And the Lunar program of the USSR was successfully carried out with the help of automatic stations of the Luna series. And for some reason you also forget it. More than 100 square kilometers of the lunar surface were examined, moreover, with physical measurements, and samples of regolith were delivered to Earth, including from a depth of 160 cm.

                  Quote from Kir Shadrin
                  And how much did the development and launch of Energia cost, do you remember?


                  Of course, I remember - about 14 billion Soviet rubles, and the launch of a rocket - about 210 million, i.e. half a billion modern dollars. Well, why the hell is a goat such a button accordion today? laughing

                  Why are there people on the Moon today, when today it is possible to transfer 98% of the work on the Moon to automatic mobile (including anthropomorphic) remote-controlled systems with artificial intelligence that do not need complex life support systems and the same Angara-A5V alone is enough to launch?

                  Or do you welcome the launch of blue and black ones for flagships, as the Americans want to do for the sake of PR on the super-expensive SLS? lol Well, well.