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“The special operation continues”: New data from the Ministry of Defense on the morning of March 12

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The Russian armed forces continue to conduct a special operation to demilitarize and denazify the territory of Ukraine, striking with high-precision weapons on the military infrastructure of the country. The use of fighter and army aviation. This was told by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense Igor Konashenkov.


Over the past day, the Russian Armed Forces launched several strikes with long-range precision weapons, systematically destroying military facilities of the Ukrainian army. This time, during the strikes, the military airfield of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Vasilkov and the main center of radio and electronic intelligence of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Brovary were disabled. The strikes were delivered on Saturday, March 12, in the morning, this was already reported by "Military Review" in one of its news materials.

The air is dominated by Russian aviation, the sorties of fighter and attack aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have hardly been recorded in recent days, but the use of drones still takes place. Over the past day, Russian fighters and air defense shot down five UAVs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including two attack Bayraktar TB2. In addition, one Tochka-U tactical missile was intercepted and destroyed.

Army and operational-tactical aviation is actively working, striking at military facilities and accumulations of enemy military equipment. Yesterday and Saturday night, 145 targets were hit, including three Buk M-1 anti-aircraft missile systems, eight command and control centers and communication centers, five ammunition depots and fuel and lubricants, and 78 military equipment accumulation areas.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, the Russian armed forces have put out of action 3491 objects of the military infrastructure of Ukraine. According to Konashenkov, during this time 123 drones, 1127 armored vehicles were destroyed, including Tanks, 115 MLRS of all types, 423 field artillery pieces and mortars, as well as 934 vehicles.

Meanwhile, the US Department of Defense has counted the number of launches of cruise and ballistic missiles of all types by the Russian side during the special operation in Ukraine, from February 24 to March 11. According to their calculations, the Russian Armed Forces carried out 810 launches in total.
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  1. riwas
    riwas 12 March 2022 11: 06
    +4
    The Ministry of Defense provided data on the conduct of a special operation in Ukraine on the morning of March 12

    I understand - a human shield, civilians, but still it is possible to use Pinocchio and Solntsepek, but nothing is heard about their use.
    1. The black
      The black 12 March 2022 11: 17
      +35
      In the morning, on one of the telegram channels there was infa that a hotel was covered, in which foreign mercenaries who had arrived to help the ukrovermacht were located ... the safari ended for them before they could begin ...
      1. Sibguest
        Sibguest 12 March 2022 12: 43
        +4
        Did they (the mercenaries) manage to at least bathe and put on fresh underwear? However, it doesn't matter.
      2. isv000
        isv000 13 March 2022 14: 43
        0
        Quote: Black
        In the morning, on one of the telegram channels, there was infa that a hotel was covered, in which foreign mercenaries who had arrived to help the ukrovermacht ... the safari ended before it could begin ..

        There is good news in the morning! And all because Western "fighters" are not used to hardships and hardships, they try to stay in comfort. And they would sit in the trenches to the dugouts - you look who would have survived ...
    2. NIKN
      NIKN 12 March 2022 11: 22
      +17
      Quote: riwas
      but still it is possible to use Pinocchio and Solntsepek, but nothing is heard about their use.

      You know, I looked carefully at the map of the Donetsk region, there are settlements in the form of villages like a fool's shag, from each other from a kilometer to 2-3 and they are all strongholds of defense, there is no defense in open areas. For what purposes do you intend to use these funds. Not even with the whole cassette, but with a couple of shells from them, the village will be wiped off the face of the earth along with the inhabitants. I repeat in the field to organize a strong point, with all their desire they will not be able to get there, the tank will not pass, as they say, only by helicopter you can fly, so that there is not and I think we will not have targets for this weapon there.
      PS: this is exactly the density of small n.p. does not allow the forces of the L\DPR to move quickly. It seems that the number of released people is huge and there is no progress, after looking at the map I understood the reason.
      1. Cat Alexandrovich
        Cat Alexandrovich 12 March 2022 11: 42
        +9
        You are correct, yes. But I really want to see "Pinocchio" there in action! M.b. gather captured Nazis somewhere in an open field and, for propaganda purposes, once shy away from the son of the pope, Carlo ...
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 12 March 2022 11: 44
          +3
          Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
          But I really want to see "Pinocchio" there in action! M.b. gather captured Nazis somewhere in an open field and, for propaganda purposes, once shy away from the son of the pope, Carlo ...
          wink smile hi
        2. Metlik
          Metlik 12 March 2022 11: 46
          -13
          Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
          But I really want to see "Pinocchio" there in action!

          And you offer to experience it for yourself. You will be given the best seats.
        3. VSO-396
          VSO-396 13 March 2022 06: 48
          +3
          Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
          You are correct, yes. But I really want to see "Pinocchio" there in action! M.b. gather captured Nazis somewhere in an open field and, for propaganda purposes, once shy away from the son of the pope, Carlo ...

          How old are you, Kotyara? In the computer shooters shy away. But no, go ahead, to the draft board!
    3. Troll
      Troll 12 March 2022 11: 31
      +12
      I understand - a human shield, civilians, but still it is possible to use Pinocchio and Solntsepek, but nothing is heard about their use.


      You just want fire and smoke. You want pictures. But the range of weapons of destruction is much wider than the systems you indicated, and officers on the ground, and not on sofas, decide what and where to use. Trust them.
      Near Kiev, judging by the video, the amount of use of Krasnopolye has sharply increased, which is safer for the population sitting in the basements.
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      2. Elena Akinfieva
        Elena Akinfieva 12 March 2022 12: 59
        +1
        That's for sure, they take out armored vehicles well
    4. Third district
      Third district 12 March 2022 12: 29
      +2
      Quote: riwas
      but still it is possible to use Pinocchio and Solntsepek, but nothing is heard about their use.

      Most likely they don’t use it. As we can see from the reports, the Ukrainian army and national battalions are huddled in cities and towns. Or even hiding in a residential area. There are no big fights in the "fields".
      1. VSO-396
        VSO-396 13 March 2022 06: 51
        0
        Quote: Third District
        Quote: riwas
        but still it is possible to use Pinocchio and Solntsepek, but nothing is heard about their use.

        Most likely they don’t use it. As we can see from the reports, the Ukrainian army and national battalions are huddled in cities and towns. Or even hiding in a residential area. There are no big fights in the "fields".

        In the fields, now, there is almost impenetrable black soil. So everything is tied to the roads and, therefore, to us. points.
    5. private person
      private person 12 March 2022 15: 02
      +1
      "Pinocchio" and "Solntsepek", but nothing is heard about their use.

      The movement of these vehicles across the territory of the country is fraught with the fall of these vehicles into the hands of the enemy. Yes, there is no clear front line.
    6. Maz
      Maz 12 March 2022 18: 49
      +1
      It's hard for our boys. Mom in the Dnieper calls says minus twelve at night, windy. Day to minus seven. To zero. March is colder than ever, the sun is melting.
    7. Maz
      Maz 13 March 2022 01: 39
      0
      The Ukrainian crisis is a convenient excuse for Russophobia, says writer Paolo Coelho.

      "I've been to Lvov, Kyiv, Odessa, Yalta and Chernobyl. Traveled 10 kilometers by train from Moscow to Vladivostok. Yes, this is a war. But don't blame ordinary people," Coelho tweeted.
      1. VSO-396
        VSO-396 13 March 2022 06: 55
        +1
        Quote: Maz
        The Ukrainian crisis is a convenient excuse for Russophobia, says writer Paolo Coelho.

        "I've been to Lvov, Kyiv, Odessa, Yalta and Chernobyl. Traveled 10 kilometers by train from Moscow to Vladivostok. Yes, this is a war. But don't blame ordinary people," Coelho tweeted.

        What are you up to? I had to get acquainted closely with such a bohemian. One word - crazy, to put it simply.
  2. svoit
    svoit 12 March 2022 11: 07
    +1
    Over the past day, the Russian Armed Forces delivered several strikes with long-range precision weapons

    I can not vouch for reliability
    A number of American sources published official data from the US Department of Defense on the number of launches by the Russian side of cruise and ballistic missiles of all types and types of deployment during a special military operation in Ukraine from February 24 to March 11, 2022. According to these data, by the end of March 11, about 810 launches had been made.

    American data on the number of launches by day looks like this:

    February 24 ~160
    February 25 ~40
    February 26 ~50
    February 27 ~70
    February 28 ~60
    March 1 ~20
    March 2 ~50
    March 3 ~30
    March 4 ~20
    March 7 (and apparently also March 5 and 6, for which there are no separate data) ~125
    March 8 ~45
    March 9 ~40
    March 10 ~65
    March 11 ~35

    https://newsby.info/conflicts/hronologiya-sobytij-voennoj-operaczii-v-donbasse-den-semnadczatyj/
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 12 March 2022 12: 42
      +3
      And yet, there is still a lot of work to be done.
      MOSCOW, March 12 - RIA Novosti. The armed forces of the Russian Federation, as part of a military special operation, destroyed almost 3500 military installations of Ukraine, said the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov.
      "In total, 3491 military infrastructure facilities of Ukraine were disabled during the operation. Destroyed: 123 unmanned aerial vehicles, 1127 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 115 multiple launch rocket systems, 423 field artillery guns and mortars, 934 units of special military vehicles," - said the general.

      https://ria.ru/20220312/obekty-1777800773.html

      State of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for 2022

      What is the army of Ukraine in 2021? According to the Global Firepower rating, at the beginning of 2021, the armed forces of Ukraine occupy the 25th place in the world, located between Thailand and Vietnam. The budget of the armed forces has been increasing annually since the beginning of the conflict in the east of the country. In 2017 it was $2,7 billion, in 2019 it was $5,2 billion, and for 2021 it was approved at $9.5 billion. However, by the standards of most developed European countries, this budget is still quite small.
      Number. At the beginning of 2021, there were 260 thousand people in the Ukrainian Armed Forces: 140 thousand conscripts and 120 thousand contract soldiers. At the same time, another 900 are in reserve, of which 500 have ATO experience.

      Ground troops
      The ground forces of Ukraine number 170 thousand + strength: air. landing., landing. assault, airmobile, marines and special forces. operations. They have 2567 tanks at their disposal. But only 870 vehicles are combat-ready. These are T-64 tanks and some T-72s.
      1300 infantry fighting vehicles. Among them are 890 BMP-2s and about 200 BMP-1s. About 1000 armored personnel carriers and BRDM: BTR-60, BTR-70, BTR-80 and 400 BRDM-2. 300 MLRS - "Grad", "Smerch" and "Hurricane". About 600 self-propelled guns: mainly "Carnations" and "Acacias". About 1000 units of towed artillery, which is represented by Soviet models.

      http://worldcrisis.ru/crisis/4018063

      In total, at the beginning of the conflict, the Armed Forces of Ukraine had 3170 tanks and other armored combat vehicles (at the moment, 1127 tanks and other armored combat vehicles have been destroyed), 300 MLRS - Grad, Smerch, and Uragan (at the moment, 115 multiple launch rocket systems have been destroyed fire), about 600 self-propelled guns: mainly "Carnations" and "Acacia" and about 1000 units of towed artillery, which in total gives 1600 field artillery guns and mortars (423 field artillery guns and mortars have been destroyed at the moment).
    2. Stepan S
      Stepan S 12 March 2022 13: 18
      -2
      Something such a number of launches is not confirmed either from our or from the Ukrainian side. And they moan at every launch. Missiles do not fly in an open field.
      1. bayard
        bayard 12 March 2022 15: 37
        -2
        Quote: Stepan S
        Something such a number of launches is not confirmed either from our or from the Ukrainian side

        And if you think about it?
        The American report indicates the TOTAL number of all types of missiles used.
        Do you understand?
        All types of ballistic and cruise missiles.
        And they kept their statistics mainly in the locational way by AWACS aircraft, as well as with the help of satellites. And the list is presented without missile types.
        And now we are looking at HOW MUCH we have destroyed radars, command posts, air defense systems ... for now, only this.
        After all, they did not work on them with free-falling bombs. And they used ROCKETS "air = surface". Such as X-31, X59, maybe even X-35 (at least they were definitely used in Syria). Multiply the number of radars and air defense systems by 1,5 - 2 (after all, more often for fidelity on priority targets they work out with two missiles) and see how much we got. After that, we estimate from memory the number of strikes on headquarters, airfields, warehouses, oil depots ...
        Everything seems to fit.
        And yet - those CDs that we saw on YouTube, filmed by local residents, are not always "Caliber". Most often, these are the CR of the Iskander-M complexes - the same as the Caliber, only its radius is smaller. But a radius of 500 km. it’s enough with your head if you let them in from the border from in / on deep into the territory.
        And X-101 missiles were also noticed ... well, this is already to gain experience in practical launches by Long-Range Aviation.

        Free-falling bombs would have been an order of magnitude cheaper, but air defense was not suppressed in the early days. Yes, and it could not be suppressed, because the Military Air Defense systems did not illuminate themselves in the early days, and even later they preferred to act from ambushes, receiving target designation from American AWACS aircraft, and turning on only to capture the target and launch. And never (!) from standby.
        And the object air defense systems were all identified and not destroyed. The same S-300s curtailed the blood of our aviation for a long time.

        The war by the Americans on the territory of the former Ukraine is being conducted very competently, with very good external support. With coverage of the entire air situation and its transfer to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, attempts to bomb with conventional bombs led to unjustified losses of our aviation and combat pilots. The factor of external illumination of the situation and target designation for Ukrainian air defense was underestimated.
        But having received aviation losses (and this can be seen from the statistics), the number of CR and BR used was increased.

        And of course the desire to protect the civilian population. Even with limited aviation activity (and it is quite active), it was possible to level fortified areas / cities with artillery and MLRS into rubble with target designation from UAVs. And losses would be minimal.
        But this is OUR LAND.
        And these are our people ... no matter how their brains are crippled ...
        And American instructors generally do not care about the population. The higher the losses, the more interesting ...
        After all, their dream came true and the Russians are killing Russians.

        But in Europe and Western Ukraine, the RF Armed Forces will no longer be so cautious and selective.
        Everything will be according to the laws of war.

        And in general, it would be nice to retaliate for the death of Russian people in Ukraine, asymmetrically hit the United States in another part of the world. Though in the same Syria. Having mixed with sand and clay their bases and personnel.
        They HAVE TO RESPOND for the arranged Sabbath in / in Ukraine, which is already more than 8 years old, and which is now ending in SUCH a bloody mess.
        And they DEFINITELY respond.
        1. VSO-396
          VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 01
          0
          Thank you, Bayard, objectively, although in the end, of course, fantasy.
          1. bayard
            bayard 13 March 2022 10: 20
            0
            Quote: VSO-396
            objectively, although in the end, of course, fantasy.

            These are wishes and recommendations.
            And it is also highly desirable to bring the strength of the Ground Forces to acceptable to acceptable values, sufficient to ensure the security of such a vast state. 280 people for the SV, this is just a misunderstanding, and the current "special operation" in the former Ukraine shows this very clearly.
        2. T.A.V.
          T.A.V. 13 March 2022 11: 39
          0
          The war by the Americans on the territory of the former Ukraine is being conducted very competently, with very good external support. With coverage of the entire air situation and its transfer to the Armed Forces *

          I have a question, enlighten me as much as possible: do the RAY systems jam AWACS or not? After all, apparently, intelligence is transmitted from them, and then from the satellite.
          1. bayard
            bayard 13 March 2022 12: 37
            +1
            Quote: T.A.V.
            : do EW systems jam AWACS or not?

            Of course, electronic warfare can jam the frequency channels of US AWACS systems, but I don’t know whether these means are used against US reconnaissance aircraft, until recently, apparently not, they were not used.
            But the suppression of air defense systems of the former Ukraine is systematic and assertive, active air defense systems are knocked out, identifying them as decoys by imitators and then hit by Kh-31 anti-radar missiles. Gradually, the capabilities of the enemy's active air defense systems are falling, and MANPADS are effective only against low-altitude targets - helicopters, attack aircraft.
            The suppression of the radio frequency channels of the US aviation can provoke a conflict with the US Armed Forces, which they are trying to avoid so far.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 March 2022 11: 14
    +14
    In a word, the army is working and working successfully.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 12 March 2022 11: 26
      -1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In a word, the army is working and working successfully.

      Yes. An interesting experience to explore.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 12 March 2022 11: 28
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In a word, the army is working and working successfully.

      God bless her success.
  4. XNUMX%
    XNUMX% 12 March 2022 11: 16
    +3
    It goes well laughing
  5. Borislav
    Borislav 12 March 2022 11: 36
    -27
    How many military facilities do these Ukrainians have, didn't they destroy them in 15 days?
    When will this senseless war end?
    1. Scientist_
      Scientist_ 12 March 2022 11: 46
      +6
      Eight years ago, the population had to be taken under protection. Then they would easily give up. And now they are smeared with blood from head to toe, they don’t see the point in giving up, that’s why they resist so stubbornly. This war is for a long time.
      1. VSO-396
        VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 07
        0
        What kind of blood? A maximum of 500 have been in the ATO, which is 2-3% of the total population. It’s just that for 8 years there was a TV set, and there were Skabeevs and Solovyovs. In the Russian Federation, 60% support, and in Ukraine no less.
      2. isv000
        isv000 13 March 2022 15: 03
        0
        Quote from Scientist
        Eight years ago, the population had to be taken under protection. Then they would easily give up. And now they are smeared with blood from head to toe, they don’t see the point in giving up, that’s why they resist so stubbornly. This war is for a long time.

        Eight years ago, we were not ready, neither in training, nor in supplies, nor in weapons. The decisive phase of this war must be completed before the appearance of greenery, otherwise then these "forest brothers" can be fished out before winter. And the remaining nuclear power plants must be taken, and the laboratories in Khorkovo, Kukuev, etc. And the peaceful people must be saved ... All these are puzzles that the General Staff is trying to put together, but something is not going as fast as we would like, there is no support from the population, except for the LDNR, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not surrender, the Nazis are generally like cornered rats - in an attempt to fall into the ground, dissolve in the air, destroy everything around, surrounded by civilians ... The worst thing that we did not take into account, it seems to me, is that we will be resist Russian soldiers, gods of war with inverted brains, who also have colossal support with all the resources from the West ...
    2. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 12 March 2022 12: 02
      +10
      What does senseless mean?
      It was meaningless from 2014 to February 2022, but this is a question for Ukrainians
    3. Crete 25
      Crete 25 12 March 2022 12: 15
      +6
      Look at the area. The country is large and densely populated. The troops were regularly stuffed with all sorts of different weapons for almost 10 years. We all want to have a bdysch at once - and we all woke up in the morning, and the special operation was over. But then there will be such sacrifices that cannot be allowed.
      1. isv000
        isv000 13 March 2022 15: 13
        0
        Quote from Kreta25
        We all want to have a bdysch at once - and we all woke up in the morning, and the special operation was over. But then there will be such sacrifices that cannot be allowed.

        If at first there was a "bdysch" around where it moves, the Syrian Raqqa would seem like a children's sandbox. You can also launch the Caucasian Guards, regular units and "patriots" from the reserve, from all cities and towns of Russia, on the cities. The bear woke up - let the wolves roam. And the order is not to take prisoners. In this scenario, February 23 would smoothly slide into March 8, with a banquet in the Carpathian region, with a beautiful view from the commander’s tent on the ruins of Lviv ...
    4. Konnick
      Konnick 12 March 2022 12: 21
      +7
      When will this senseless war end?

      When the Ukrainians themselves restore the monuments to Nikolai Kuznetsov in Lvov and Rivne, and also return his name to the streets. This is the meaning of this, in your words "senseless" war. This is a war with Ukrainian Nazism, which already in 1992 destroyed the monuments to N.I. Kuznetsov, the most outstanding fighter against fascism, according to Frederic Joliot Curie.
      1. Amper
        Amper 12 March 2022 13: 36
        +1
        F. Dzerzhinsky needs to erect a monument in every city of dill, and at the bottom there is a p / box with the inscription "Write, who does not write is a fascist!"
        1. VSO-396
          VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 09
          0
          Quote: Amper
          F. Dzerzhinsky needs to erect a monument in every city of dill, and at the bottom there is a p / box with the inscription "Write, who does not write is a fascist!"

          Then the monuments to L.P. Beria are already better!
          1. Amper
            Amper 13 March 2022 22: 35
            -1
            Beria has a negative attitude. I respect F. Dzerzhinsky.
      2. syndicalist
        syndicalist 13 March 2022 14: 45
        -2
        Destroy the entire population to restore the monument?
        1. Amper
          Amper 13 March 2022 22: 38
          0
          Fascists! Think what you offer, banderlog!
      3. isv000
        isv000 13 March 2022 15: 17
        +1
        Quote: Konnick
        When the Ukrainians themselves restore the monuments to Nikolai Kuznetsov in Lvov and Rivne, and also return his name to the streets. This is the meaning of this, in your words "senseless" war. This is a war with Ukrainian Nazism, which already in 1992 destroyed the monuments to N.I. Kuznetsov, the most outstanding fighter against fascism, according to Frederic Joliot Curie.

        For Krakow alone, logs should lick the memory of Kuznetsov. And to their serfs, when trying to scold such a bream, to weigh it down, so that it would be scary by the neck, but ... Logs - in line !!!
    5. private person
      private person 12 March 2022 15: 07
      0
      How many military facilities do these Ukrainians have, didn't they destroy them in 15 days?
      When will this senseless war end?

      Since the time of the Union, most of the equipment and weapons have remained on the territory of the Krajina. Yes, and not yet a war (there was no announcement), but a special operation you catch the difference.
  6. certero
    certero 12 March 2022 11: 51
    -5
    Ministry of Defense can look at the wreckage of at least one downed bayraktar? Should there be means of video recording of hit targets? At the same time, maybe not let them take off at all and spread their bases?
    I just remember well how they talked about the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict and the use of bayraktar in the light of possible military operations against Russia of these drones. And as everyone said, it doesn’t matter, we will immediately smash the calibers of the bases of these bayraktars with calibers.
    Practice shows that Russia greatly underestimates enemy drones. To be honest, it becomes scary what will happen if there is a Western enemy or Turkey on the other side
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 12 March 2022 12: 10
      0
      Quote: certero
      To be honest, it becomes scary what will happen if there is a Western enemy or Turkey on the other side

      this enemy would not be allowed to seize Ukrainian territory and hide behind its population
      and strikes with high-precision weapons would be delivered, respectively, on enemy territory
      which the local population would not like very much
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 12 March 2022 12: 17
      +9
      Quote: certero
      it becomes scary what will happen if there is a Western enemy or Turkey on the other side

      It's right that you get scared. Because with "not ours" (not Ukrainians), we will not stand on ceremony and almond-mongering, but we will stun with all the available means of destruction, including the use of the Son of the Pope Carlo, and thermobaric beaters, and Tosochka will let you, ghouls, tumble on short...
      We will do everything according to Suvorov's "Science of Victory" - don't worry!
      1. isv000
        isv000 13 March 2022 15: 26
        +1
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        Because we will not stand on ceremony with "not ours" (not Ukrainians),

        These Western "partners" do not understand that they will be beaten hard, taking out on them all the restraint accumulated when working with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. What does the Supreme Commander himself say - these can be soaked in the toilet!
    3. Third district
      Third district 12 March 2022 12: 55
      +2
      Quote: certero
      And as everyone said, it doesn’t matter, we will immediately smash the calibers of the bases of these bayraktars with calibers.

      Yes, there are a lot of hat throwers on the site.
      Quote: certero
      To be honest, it becomes scary what will happen if there is a Western enemy or Turkey on the other side

      And don't be afraid. And they would also get in the face. Or do you think that the Ukrainian army is weak. Actually, in terms of numbers and for some types of weapons, it was the second army in Europe. With aviation, of course, they are cooperative. But the air defense is pretty strong, the S-300 complexes are no joke. The weapon is very serious, knocking down everything that flies.
      1. Stepan S
        Stepan S 12 March 2022 13: 21
        -2
        S-300 complexes are no joke. The weapon is very serious, shoots down everything that flies

        Looking at the rather high efficiency and stability of such an even rather outdated and weak air defense system, one wonders how it will fly over a country with a modern air defense system? Staff members will think a hundred times before flying to us.
        1. isv000
          isv000 13 March 2022 15: 31
          0
          Quote: Stepan S
          Looking at the rather high efficiency and stability of such an even rather outdated and weak air defense system,

          This is where you saw the effectiveness of the yellow-Blakit air defense?
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 13 March 2022 15: 02
        +1
        What does it mean to shoot down everything that flies. Any air defense system shoots down everything that flies. But that doesn't mean he's invulnerable.
        1. Third district
          Third district 13 March 2022 15: 56
          0
          Quote: YOUR
          Any air defense system shoots down everything that flies. H

          Any, but not really. In 1999, before starting the bombing of Yugoslavia, the United States made sure that there were no S-300 systems on the territory. Many military experts then said that if Russia had delivered these complexes to Yugoslavia, NATO, led by the United States, would not have dared to send their aircraft there. There might not have been a war. However, it was not necessary to expect anything else, from Yeltsin and the "family".
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 13 March 2022 16: 22
            +1
            This is of course very informative, but what did you mean when you wrote that it shoots down everything that flies?
      3. isv000
        isv000 13 March 2022 15: 29
        +2
        Quote: Third District
        Or do you think that the Ukrainian army is weak. Actually, in terms of numbers and for some types of weapons, it was the second army in Europe.

        The terrible thing here is that two Russian soldiers came together in battle, and each has his own truth: one is against Nazism and the other has sawdust washed in his head ...
    4. Stepan S
      Stepan S 12 March 2022 13: 24
      +1
      And as everyone said, it doesn’t matter, we will immediately smash the calibers of the bases of these bayraktars with calibers.

      They will also take off from civilian airfields. And the runway is not as long as for an airplane.
      1. VSO-396
        VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 12
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        Yes, Bayraktars can also fly from a piece of a straight highway.
    5. isv000
      isv000 13 March 2022 15: 22
      -1
      Quote: certero
      Ministry of Defense can look at the wreckage of at least one downed bayraktar? Should there be means of video recording of hit targets? At the same time, maybe not let them take off at all and spread their bases?

      283000, DPR, Donetsk, Republican military enlistment office, recruitment window for volunteers. They will prompt the direction of the search and even equip them.
  7. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 12 March 2022 11: 59
    +6
    Quote: certero
    I just remember well how they talked about the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict and the use of bayraktar here

    Then you must remember that the Azerbaijanis flooded the Internet with videos from those same bayraktars with successful use. Now there are no videos with successful application.
    1. VSO-396
      VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 14
      +1
      The Ukrainian media is full of videos.
  8. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 12 March 2022 12: 07
    +6
    A little offtopic, sorry wassat Gasoline in the UK has risen by ANOTHER 10 pence per day, and now a liter is 1.79 of ours (forecast is for 2l / liter). The newspaper expresses indignation (clumsy translation from memory) that "after our sanctions, which broke the Russian economy, its president (they don’t say by name, but they give out several bad, almost abusive adjectives) DARE to introduce counter-sanctions that will hit the pockets of ordinary British. - what did they expect? The Russian Federation is not Kiribati, which can be poisoned by sanctions. They relish sanctions against the oligarchs. They do not understand that after their repeated attempts to become "their own" - investments in the economy, charity - to show them a place in the "cock's corner" means to give them to understand that their home and their money is Russia. And now the money will remain in Russia. The British have finished with the withdrawal of Russian capital to Britain. It seems to be successful.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 March 2022 12: 19
    +5
    on the morning of March 12, we reached new frontiers
    And it pleases. Meanwhile, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Reznikov with pathos declares
    Ukraine will accept the capitulation of Russia with understanding. We keep the system
    That's just some kind of strange system - boilers, focal defense from behind the backs of the civilian population, ambushes of the DRG. Communication with the troops has been lost, they cannot provide assistance to the encircled, the logistics are disrupted, they suffer losses in manpower and equipment, and at the same time they are waiting for the surrender of Russia. Complete insanity.
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    2. Third district
      Third district 12 March 2022 13: 05
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Minister of Defense of Ukraine Reznikov declares with pathos
      Ukraine will accept the capitulation of Russia with understanding. We keep the system
      That's just some kind of strange system - boilers, focal defense from behind the backs of the civilian population,

      So in 1945, German propagandists also said that a little more and they would win. yes
      1. VSO-396
        VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 17
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        What have I not heard of this (Reznikova). Can you link?
      2. isv000
        isv000 13 March 2022 15: 34
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        Quote: Third District
        So in 1945, German propagandists also said that a little more and they would win.

        I wouldn’t want to offend anyone, but if the Germans had time with the atom and with flying saucer wunderwaffles, the war could have dragged on for another year ...
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  11. Leonidych
    Leonidych 12 March 2022 12: 48
    +4
    And why do the Americans consider our fired missiles? What do they think that when we run out of them they will have the opportunity to attack us!? Naive!
    1. Daverk
      Daverk 12 March 2022 14: 12
      +1
      they always count. and count. down to the smallest detail, they have it well established.
    2. isv000
      isv000 13 March 2022 15: 35
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      Quote: leonidych
      And why do the Americans consider our fired missiles? What do they think that when we run out of them they will have the opportunity to attack us!? Naive!

      Evaluation of the stock of a simultaneous salvo ...
  12. Daverk
    Daverk 12 March 2022 14: 08
    +1
    my personal opinion is that such peaceful tactics will not lead to anything good. the company, excuse me, the special operation will drag on. how long will it take to drive the armed forces, national battalions, mercenaries into large populations. points? in which they burrow forever. and the residents, who do you think will be blamed for this, huh? I see that it can take the whole of March and April.
    if so, then in the most favorable scenario, by May we will have a situation: the eastern part is under our control. Kyiv is a besieged fortress. (Dnepr, Nikolaev, Odessa, Kharkov are ours, this is the most favorable option), and the west, in which there will be no military infrastructure, but in which there will be 50-100 thousand troops armed to the teeth and entrenched to the utmost.
    All this I mean that I still have to level something large and populated with the ground.
    1. VSO-396
      VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 20
      0
      If only, 50-100 thousand. After mobilization, there may be a million. And a deaf positional war.
  13. The Tambov wolf is not a comrade for everyone.
    0
    A little more guys in Donetsk will figure it out, and they will say for Odessa.
    1. VSO-396
      VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 21
      +1
      So far, Donetsk continues to be shelled
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 13 March 2022 14: 50
      -1
      Quote: The Tambov wolf is not a comrade for everyone.
      A little more guys in Donetsk will figure it out, and they will say for Odessa.

      In the sense that they will equalize Odessa to zero?
    3. isv000
      isv000 13 March 2022 15: 45
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      Quote: The Tambov wolf is not a comrade for everyone.
      A little more guys in Donetsk will figure it out, and they will say for Odessa.

      There is no need to speak for Odessa - it's time for her to learn to stand up for herself. It will be too fat if again our guys lie down in their land, and they fervently congratulate us on their release. Pass according to the established scheme - the city into the ring and forward, to Pridnestrovie - there is someone to help there. And dear Odessans may well assemble a militia, to the rescue of which the Russian army will certainly come at the first nix. No - no, there’s no talk, you need to eat with a full spoon - the anniversary of the House of Trade Unions is coming soon ... I think if they got up then, they could crush the Nazis, blaze the province, and there, you see, help from the Crimea would arrive in time ...
  14. O. Bender
    O. Bender 12 March 2022 14: 25
    +1
    810 launches. Few, we need more good and different ones. Especially Pacers, lancets right in the head of every Nazi. Good luck to our surgeons.
  15. certero
    certero 12 March 2022 16: 36
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    Quote from Scientist
    Quote: certero
    I just remember well how they talked about the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict and the use of bayraktar here

    Then you must remember that the Azerbaijanis flooded the Internet with videos from those same bayraktars with successful use. Now there are no videos with successful application.

    Unfortunately, videos keep popping up. But fortunately, there were not so many of them like that among the Azerbaijanis.
  16. certero
    certero 12 March 2022 16: 44
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    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: certero
    it becomes scary what will happen if there is a Western enemy or Turkey on the other side

    It's right that you get scared. Because with "not ours" (not Ukrainians), we will not stand on ceremony and almond-mongering, but we will stun with all the available means of destruction, including the use of the Son of the Pope Carlo, and thermobaric beaters, and Tosochka will let you, ghouls, tumble on short...
    We will do everything according to Suvorov's "Science of Victory" - don't worry!

    You know what, I'm a normal patriot of my country. But as a patriot, I see serious shortcomings that cannot be hushed up. Let me remind you once again how we have a discussion here about these bayraktars and they said that our electronic warfare system will not even let them take off, that our caliber missiles will cover their bases and that this is generally garbage against our army.
    It turned out what happened. The Ministry of Defense constantly reports on downed bayraktars, but they all do not end and do not end. And they continue to bombard our troops.
    Now, arguments have come into play that we, because of peacefulness, cannot destroy drones.
    Gentlemen, comrades, and in general, no one should fly over the territory of Ukraine on the 15th day of the military operation. In addition to the Russian VKS. No one should move on the roads, except for the Russian armed forces.
    At least that's how everyone present here, well, at least most of them, talked about a hypothetical conflict with Ukraine.
    Therefore, let's just conclude that drones are a serious threat that should not be underestimated.
    And secondly, the Ukrainian armed forces do not have loitering ammunition. Which is very pleasing because I don’t understand how ours would fight with them.
    I fully admit that we have very incomplete information with you.
    1. VSO-396
      VSO-396 13 March 2022 07: 25
      0
      certero, respect! And loitering ammunition, I'm afraid, will appear soon. As well as massing the air defense system.
  17. certero
    certero 13 March 2022 07: 36
    -1
    Quote: VSO-396
    certero, respect! And loitering ammunition, I'm afraid, will appear soon. As well as massing the air defense system.

    Now, even if they appear, they will not make the weather. That's another matter why they don't have us? why is non-self-propelled cannon artillery still able to fire at Donetsk? We all remember pictures from Azerbaijan of the Armenian conflict when even single guns were hit by barrage of ammunition.
  18. Div Divich
    Div Divich 13 March 2022 07: 38
    0
    Unfortunately, things are heading towards a third world war.

    The longer the special operation goes on, the more likely it is that foreign countries will take part in the war.

    Western countries see that the advance on Kyiv is slow, they perceive this as a weakness of the RF Armed Forces, so they decide on new sanctions, the supply of weapons, and plans to send foreign troops.

    The opinion of Europeans slipped on the Internet that they would not mind if Russia seized Kyiv in a couple of days and changed the government, and the Europeans do not agree to a long war - they will fight it with all their might.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 13 March 2022 07: 42
      0
      From March 13, flights of leasing Boeing and Airbus aircraft from Russia will be banned... international flights will be impossible.
      Here is the downside of using foreign airliners.
      The collapse of the domestic aircraft industry came back in this way.
      I would put those responsible for this against the wall.
      1. Div Divich
        Div Divich 13 March 2022 07: 54
        +2
        They are making an iron curtain, and there is already a cold war with the United States. So sanctions for 20 years.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 13 March 2022 08: 12
          0
          Well, hardly for 20 years ... there are too many vulnerable points in the West ... if you put pressure on them, this time can be reduced.
          The third world war is already in full swing ... the participation of PMCs, volunteers and mercenaries from both sides on the battlefields is in full swing.
          1. Div Divich
            Div Divich 13 March 2022 08: 41
            +1
            The main vulnerable point of the West is Iran. Also, Putin can sell technologies for the production of intercontinental missiles to several countries, and then the balance of power in the world will change in five years. We need to talk tougher with NATO.
          2. Div Divich
            Div Divich 13 March 2022 10: 16
            +1
            Another vulnerable point of the West is the dollar as a world currency. If you agree with several countries on the transition to the yuan, the dollar will depreciate a lot. There are enough countries with which the United States fought, and it is necessary to negotiate with them.
  19. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 13 March 2022 11: 46
    -1
    Quote: VSO-396
    What kind of blood? A maximum of 500 have been in the ATO, which is 2-3% of the total population. It’s just that for 8 years there was a TV set, and there were Skabeevs and Solovyovs.

    500 thousand is not enough for you? There are now fewer of our troops involved. They have had their own TV for more than 30 years, not 8. It was only in 2014 in Crimea that all their military men, including the Lviv airmobile brigade, surrendered to ours without a single shot, and they were ideologically inflated. They just knew then that nothing would happen to them and they would simply be released. And now there is nothing to lose.
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 13 March 2022 14: 58
      +2
      Where does this figure of 500 come from? Did a rough estimate. There, all the Armed Forces are 000. Of which mechanized, tank, artillery, missile troops will amount to no more than 250. The Armed Forces will be able to completely upgrade with a large interference in 000 or even 150 years, and I’m not sure about that. The service life is 000 months, in some troops for 2 months.
      I am writing all this to the fact that it was really mostly Nazi volunteers who fought near the Donbass, and there simply cannot be any 500 000 with combat experience
  20. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 13 March 2022 15: 08
    -1
    Quote: YOUR

    I am writing all this to the fact that it was really mostly Nazi volunteers who fought near the Donbass, and there simply cannot be any 500 000 with combat experience

    Maybe or not doesn't really matter. The main thing is that there are tens or even hundreds of thousands who have nothing to lose and who are ready to resist to the end. And since they settled in settlements, they must be destroyed at retail, and not wholesale. It's long.
  21. Scientist_
    Scientist_ 13 March 2022 15: 29
    -1
    Quote: isv000

    Eight years ago, we were not ready, neither in training, nor in supplies, nor in weapons.

    The worst thing that we did not take into account, it seems to me, is that we will be confronted by Russian soldiers, the gods of war with inverted brains, who also have colossal support from all the resources from the West ...

    And what do you think they spent these 8 years on? In order to bind with blood as many of their supporters as possible. Then it was possible to occupy the entire South-East without a fight. Now the Nazis must be destroyed throughout the former Ukrainian SSR.
    What did we spend 8 years on? In order to squeeze more money from society (increasing VAT, raising the retirement age, contributions to "overhaul", etc.) and send them to the West. Get lost strategy.