Europe today is at war not with Russia, but with itself

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Yuri Podolyaka
Europe today is at war not with Russia, but with itself - and God save the EU if ... Russia comes to this war
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        1. -3
          March 12 2022
          Ok, wow. Zavi, but I will feed my family with gasoline? You have not seen our prices for food, well, wages. MB you know better from Israel.)
          1. +6
            March 12 2022
            Cat food has doubled in price.
            But my cats and I will get through this.
            But the people in the Donbass might not survive their genocide.
            So the troops had to be brought in.
            Well, sanctions - yes, to hell with them. The more action is being taken. An excess of grain is deliberately created. And other measures too. There will be no hunger.
            Chaos in the West will only be a plus for Russia.
        2. +9
          March 12 2022
          I read yesterday that gasoline has become cheaper in your country, but it is getting more expensive all over the world.

          And how are things in Israel with this ... how many shekels has everything risen in price?
          1. +4
            March 12 2022
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            I read yesterday that gasoline has become cheaper in your country, but it is getting more expensive all over the world.

            And how are things in Israel with this ... how many shekels has everything risen in price?

            More expensive. We don't live in a vacuum.
        3. 0
          March 12 2022
          It fell in price by a couple of kopecks, and it usually rises in price in rubles immediately)
        4. +3
          March 12 2022
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          I read yesterday that gasoline has fallen in price in your country, but it is becoming more expensive all over the world.

          In Tallinn, gasoline has risen in price to 2,05-2,10 euros, if in January it was 1,0-1,05 euros.
          1. 0
            March 12 2022
            Sorry for the offtopic, are you from Estonia? Is the base in Paldiski alive? Or given under Natu?
            1. +2
              March 12 2022
              Quote: Vinnibuh
              Sorry for the offtopic, are you from Estonia? Is the base in Paldiski alive? Or given under Natu?

              The base immediately after the collapse, by 1992 was liquidated, now there is a container terminal and bulk cargo. Was a couple of weeks ago with a friend who served there. Now it has become a bit like a city, otherwise after the departure of the troops it was like a homeless man. NATO in Tapa and Emari.
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          -3
          March 12 2022
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          gasoline has fallen in price

          At 0,0000000 .....% and then wholesale prices.
      2. -7
        March 12 2022
        Not only does it go off scale, but also at all levels they ban those who are "against" or "do not support" or truthfully and soberly assess what is happening and the consequences. It is simply impossible to watch official information, there is only about the suffering of the population of Ukraine, humanitarian corridors and how famously we will pay all in rubles and that the West will soon fall apart from its own sanctions. The most important tragedy is that all normal people see perfectly well that the situation is absolutely devoid of at least some adequate control on the part of our authorities and managers - everything did not go according to plan from the very beginning and decisions are made in a fire order, without preliminary study possible situations and methods for leveling the consequences. Everything is developing according to the worst scenario for us.
        1. +4
          March 12 2022
          What specific proposals? Bayonet to the ground and paws up?! If you still haven't got it, then the war against us began a long time ago, and not on February 24th. However, explaining elementary truths to you is stupid. You are not here for this, but for calls to surrender! What department of the CIA do you work for?
          1. +3
            March 12 2022
            Oh how! A little immediately something is wrong - we write it down as CIA agents))
            Then maybe you need to turn off your head and believe everything that is broadcast from the central channels?
            Specifically, the proposals: what *** more than half of our reserves have so far been invested in the economies of Europe and the USA? 450 billion dollars!! Yes, this money would now be poured into the economy - there would be no crisis at all! But no, our leadership at the Central Bank decided to make money quickly. Earned. According to your definitions, they also turn out to be CIA agents, but to remind you who appoints them all there, huh? Although no, it's sacred, you can not touch it.
            So go ahead - we will close our rolls even tighter and continue to continue to pay for the short-sighted, criminal policy of our bureaucrats.
            1. +3
              March 12 2022
              Why not? Biographies are not printed here, the level of education is not taken into account, diplomas are not required. And why should people believe it is not clear to whom, who is not essentially responsible for their words, and not trust officials who can be sued for lying? So everyone chooses his own source of information and draws his own conclusions. hi
              1. +1
                March 12 2022
                So I gave a concrete example of the failure of our officials, and you can find such in bulk. But instead of some kind of punishment, they will receive a maximum transfer to another bread position. And all these individuals to believe? Well, well, you already consider that you have lost leadership in space, only the lazy did not write about problems with education and health care. For example, I have already stopped going to compulsory medical insurance at all, you are unlikely to get qualified help here. But on TV we have popular reports that everything is super!
                If you choose such a source - I sympathize)
            2. -6
              March 12 2022
              Specifically, the proposals: what *** more than half of our reserves have so far been invested in the economies of Europe and the USA? 450 billion dollars!! Yes, this money would now be poured into the economy - there would be no crisis at all!

              Because it was the bait that the Zionists successfully swallowed. And it was aimed at undermining the dollar, as the basis of the financial calculations of the world.
              In general, you personally remind me of those people who fought in a fit in 1812 (everything was gone) when Kutuzov surrendered Moscow.
              1. +2
                March 12 2022
                Ahh, so this is from the category of those famous multi-moves? Just tell you what percentage of GDP we occupy in the world? This 450 billion for the West is simply nothing. How are you going to undermine the dollar with them?) Probably soon we should expect that the United States will collapse and there will be a new wonderful world. Let me just remind you that the collapse of the United States has been predicted for more than a dozen years. Here you need to think about your country, we are much closer to default than they are)
                1. -7
                  March 12 2022
                  Ahh, so this is from the category of those famous multi-moves?

                  Are you from the category of those people who live in someone else's mind - that is, they don’t have their own opinion, but they listen to all sorts of manipulators? )))
                  Scroll through the world press, 7 years ago, and read about the entry of our troops into Syria, and how all analysts predicted a failure for us there and dire consequences for Russia.
                  But apparently you will not do this, because judging by your statements, you are just a foreign agent on a salary.
                  1. 0
                    March 12 2022
                    Just judging by your statements - you believe in a world government and a conspiracy) What a word, Zionists. And who do you count among them? I'm probably in your opinion and a Zionist, and a CIA agent rolled into one.
                    I just turn my head on, and I see that my income since 2013 has barely kept pace with inflation and rising prices, that is, there is almost no qualitative increase. And I see that a lot of promises given by our civil servants are not being fulfilled.
                    But why argue with you, you have your own "truth". In the USSR, I agree that many people had such an approach, but now it’s far from the USSR: there is no ideology, decisions are often made to enrich one’s wallet.
                    Remain further in your vacuum
          2. nnm
            +13
            March 12 2022
            Excuse me, but can I clarify - at least one son of State Duma deputies, members of the government, governors, oligarchs, etc. takes part in this undoubtedly necessary military operation?
            Otherwise, I read the main news on all the news feeds - Peskov’s wife and children were banned from entering the United States ... what a horror, how can they live now ?!
            1. +2
              March 12 2022
              Quote: nnm
              Excuse me, but can I clarify - at least one son of State Duma deputies, members of the government, governors, oligarchs, etc. takes part in this undoubtedly necessary military operation?
              Otherwise, I read the main news on all the news feeds - Peskov’s wife and children were banned from entering the United States ... what a horror, how can they live now ?!

              And why are these "craftsmen" with their hands sharpened under a cue? None of them served in the army, and those institutions that they graduated from teach another ... stop
              But you shouldn't reject 100% logic:
              Quote: Emergency
              Biographies are not published here. level of education is not taken into account, diplomas are not required. And why should people don't know who to believewho is not essentially responsible for his words, and not to believe officials who can be charged with lying? So everyone chooses his own source of information and draws his own conclusions.

              One fellow... fellow student... fellow... fellow student... fellow worker collaborator "Ikark" did not say - there are many of them who want to make claims to those in power, according to thaws from under the snow in spring ... laughing apartments under house arrest, and in cells in different regions, the skill of sewing slippers hones ... Yes
              You should not have erased ... Although ... stop That's right, Liza Peskova is not Liza Chaikina ...
        2. -2
          March 12 2022
          Correctly noted, I’m here in the next branch, for daring to doubt that we will defeat Ukraine in one day, and NATO and the USA have already been called a Khokhlotroll, and Taraska and many others, it’s funny of course, but what is called, shows the average temperature by hospital)
          1. +9
            March 12 2022
            Of course, I am categorically against propagandism, we will stand, not in the first, but the fact that many aspects of our life will change, and on the economic and military fronts we have a lot of damn hard work, I think you should understand
            1. nnm
              +6
              March 12 2022
              For some reason, I remembered the quote of a great man - "there is no time for buildup!" And Nabiulina, who "fell in love" with $300 billion of our reserves, which are blocked abroad and which we will never see.
              1. +4
                March 12 2022
                It looks like 412 billion. By the way, where is the parliamentary investigation on this topic? Where at least some measures taken in order to return? it is at such moments that you understand that the government still needs to change from time to time and be responsible to its voters.
                1. nnm
                  +2
                  March 12 2022
                  "Friends - everything, enemies - the law!"
        3. +3
          March 12 2022
          Quote: Kuzya the Cat
          at all levels, those who are "against" or "do not support" or who truthfully and soberly assess what is happening and the consequences are banned

          Quote: Kuzya the Cat
          all normal people see perfectly well that the situation is absolutely devoid of at least some adequate control on the part of our government

          your value judgments are devoid of any objectivity

          you, of your own free will, divided people into normal, truthful on the one hand (apparently, including yourself in them) and abnormal, untruthful - on the other hand.

          those who criticize, write about failures and miscalculations - those truth-seekers and well done

          the rest are urapatriots, all in a crowd

          you argue that the events taking place are deprived of the control of the leadership on what basis?

          if this is objectivity, then it is not worth a damn
      3. -4
        March 12 2022
        ,,
        I understand everything, but urapatriotism is already off scale

        Well, you have to... woke up.
        They remembered about cheers for patriotism ... but what cheers are the patriots to blame for the fact that prices are rising?
        Maybe call Biden all the same and ask him to lift the sanctions on our oil industry.
        1. 0
          March 12 2022
          Have you seen a lot from the "oil and gas" industry? I just took molasses from each iron. And ks, it was necessary not to pull all the steamships, but at least do something with presumptuous hamsters. Shame, nails and needles are Chinese.
          1. +1
            March 12 2022
            Quote: Vinnibuh
            Have you seen a lot from the "oil and gas" industry?

            When your child goes to school on the asphalt past the clinic - it goes to oil and gas money for oil and gas money for oil and gas money ...
            64% of the RF budget is provided by export duties on energy resources.
            And "I pay taxes!" - only 18%

            And when Calibers fly, this is also oil and gas loot ....
        2. +2
          March 12 2022
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Maybe call Biden all the same and ask him to lift the sanctions on our oil industry.

          Well, yesterday they showed how from the USA Putin was presented with claims for gas, as one hysterical Yankee yelled - "Putin, look at 7,55 per gallon of gas, I'll send you a bill !!!"
          He is not blaming Biden, blinkered, but Putin. It means the inhabitants are baked. And so Everywhere and in the USA and in Europe, which, like a girl from a railway station, builds a virgin from herself.
      4. +19
        March 12 2022
        Campaign before you, like many "Russians" has not yet realized that we are still at war ?! Not in the movies, not at dances, not on the couch in front of TV, namely at WAR! And whining about the rise in price of everything and everything is certainly easier than just turning on the brain and starting to do something.
        It's like cursing Stalin and the Soviet government for the fact that in besieged Leningrad there was an acute shortage of everything, but primarily bread.

        WAKE UP already and say THANK YOU that the war is still going on for you in stores, and not on the streets of our cities !!!
        1. +6
          March 12 2022
          Quote: Kayala
          Campaign before you, like many "Russians" still have not realized that we are still at war?

          good
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          -6
          March 12 2022
          Quote: Kayala
          namely, WAR!

          Isn't it a special operation?
          1. 0
            March 12 2022
            Let the politicians sort out the terminology, but our business is a soldier's. They provided international assistance, and the battalion commander set the task like this, "go to the war, to prepare for a day. "Or the boys in the smoking room, languishing in the heat, having a leisurely conversation, counted who how many times was on the war. Such is philology and geopolitics, their mother for braids!
        3. +6
          March 12 2022
          It just dawned on me that there was a war going on, and it even dawned on me that suddenly people appeared on the VO, to put it mildly, from nowhere ... they suddenly began to actively drown against the war and talk, to put it mildly, veiled in support of the Ukrainian Natsiks ... smile
          They were silent for 8 years, and then they drew on you ... do not fool people.
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            -4
            March 12 2022
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            suddenly began to actively drown against the war

            The Russians were fined for discrediting the actions of Russian troops

            It is noted that the court registered the case of an administrative offense under part 1 of article 20.3.3 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation. In particular, in a large crowd of people, a Russian held a placard "No to war" and shouted a similar slogan. As noted in the press service, thus, the citizen “expressed his opinion and formed the opinion of others about the participation of the Armed Forces (AF) of Russia in the war, and not in a special operation».
          2. +1
            March 12 2022
            You understand, a sober view of life and urapatriotism are two different things. Ks, I fully support the operation in Ukraine, the abscess must be cut.
        4. +2
          March 12 2022
          You wake up, The war has been going on in my streets for a long time. You did not see? There are a lot of migrants, and they feel at home here, and they are trying to introduce their own rules. ks, used to be a cynologist, traveled half of the former Union, seen enough.
          1. 0
            March 12 2022
            I work with migrants and regularly encounter them on the street... the problem is only with those migrants who do not honor our laws and customs... such migrants should be imprisoned mercilessly or sent back to the villages.
            1. -1
              March 12 2022
              Yeah, but who's going to do it?
              1. -5
                March 12 2022
                The one who is on duty is obliged to do this.
            2. -2
              March 12 2022
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              such people should be imprisoned mercilessly or sent back to the villages.

              Quote: Vinnibuh
              Yeah, but who's going to do it?

              Quote: Lech from Android.
              The one who is on duty is obliged to do this.

              =====
              Is that what they need? There is no need to discount internal problems, but one should not whine about the fact that all these sanctions have become unbearable either. For a change and comparison, look at how the civilians of the LDNR lived in recent years ...
          2. 0
            March 12 2022
            Why? Dogs all over the Union fled?
      5. -2
        March 12 2022
        There would be a provocation from Ukraine, and all the same sanctions would be imposed on Russia as they are now. Russia would fit in with the LDNR, but in order to solve the problem with Ukraine, it would have to be disarmed. (exactly what is happening)
        That is, sanctions would still be inevitable. We didn't really start it.
    2. +9
      March 12 2022
      sometimes I watch Deutsche Welle and Euronews... it strikes me with undisguised hatred of Russia. The same fear of war and dissatisfaction with high prices is used to nurture Hatred. The information is presented one-sidedly, forming the image of wild Russians... Sober voices are almost inaudible.
      1. -5
        March 12 2022
        They say that we are to blame for everything, but we have that they are to blame for everything. In the same way, everything is one-sided, and the truth is somewhere in the middle.
        1. +2
          March 12 2022
          There is no truth at all))
          A certain eccentric is still fighting for Truth
          True, in the speeches of his truth on a broken penny
          "Pure Truth will triumph in time
          If he does the same as an outright lie!"
          (C)
        2. +3
          March 12 2022
          So NATO is not in the middle, but already at our borders.
          The truth is that they do not want to listen to us and take into account our concerns because of this.
          1. +3
            March 12 2022
            I'm talking about the fact that no one will admit their mistakes, this is happening both with us and with them.
            So why don't they want to listen, say? Because we still have a mess in our country. They would have built a strong independent state - all this Georgia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia - they themselves would have begun to reach out to us. But plus, of course, work with local elites, to prevent anti-Russian forces from coming to power. But we missed all these opportunities, and now we are paying with the blood of ordinary guys.
            The fact that the enemy is at the gate is a fact
      2. 0
        March 12 2022
        It's nasty that there are those who, urging not to believe our RUSSIAN media, do not blather against these mouthpieces of "democracy". On the contrary, they try in every possible way to unobtrusively suggest that they are the very thing, the “most honest”.
    3. -2
      March 12 2022
      We noticed that all the reviews - how bad it is in Europe, how bad it is in Omerik (it will be), how bad it is in Ukraine, ... Podolya is everywhere ...

      But not a single material, but how good it is here in Russia (except for the military part), Prices there, the crown, education, economics, medicine, housing and communal services ...

      VO website, but still ...
      1. -4
        March 12 2022
        Pointed to the point.
      2. -5
        March 12 2022
        Read the financial review, political review, military review, foreign media, criminal reports from various independent sources ... and you will be happy. smile
        1. +1
          March 12 2022
          from various independent sources

          It's funny ... especially about independent sources.
          Sources that do not depend on private capital do not have complete information. just pay for information is not what.
          and those sources, which are informative, perform the task set by the customer. They will say to bring down Russia, they will bring down Russia.
          1. -1
            March 12 2022
            And that criminal reports suddenly became dependent on someone?
            The level of crime and detection of crimes says a lot in a particular region ... in addition, different sources mean a different level of filtering information ...
            There are some nuances of information analysis here ... read for educational program guidelines and documents on collecting and analyzing various information. smile
            I won't tell you the sources ... if you have a head on your shoulders, you will find it yourself.
      3. -1
        March 12 2022
        Quote: Max1995
        We noticed that all the reviews - how bad it is in Europe, how bad it is in Omerik (it will be), how bad it is in Ukraine, ... Podolya is everywhere ...

        But not a single material, but how good it is here in Russia (except for the military part), Prices there, the crown, education, economics, medicine, housing and communal services ...

        A sense of perspective makes a person happy .... Europeans are unfortunate people who have the prospect of becoming poorer, which is why they go berserk
        1. +1
          March 12 2022
          To the point.
          The prospect of becoming poorer now for many ....
    4. 0
      March 12 2022
      as they say, do not dig another hole
    5. 0
      March 12 2022
      Is there Podolyak on rutube? YouTube, then a terrorist platform and open it, is to support the enemy.
      Yes, and it’s not good for authors to insert videos from YouTube.
    6. +3
      March 12 2022
      War is war, and a trumpet is a trumpet.
      1. +1
        March 12 2022
        That's for sure ... up there they decide who will inflict how many losses on a competitor.
    7. +1
      March 12 2022
      Brothers, as long as there is such a pursuit on earth as America, no one will have a quiet life.
      1. 0
        March 12 2022
        From time immemorial they have spoiled us ... it is time to spoil us in their garden.
      2. +1
        March 12 2022
        What about America? America is a territory inhabited by people who have been turned into livestock for a whole century. Only it seems that the owners of the barnyard went crazy on the basis of swimming in brain fat. Learned to think.
    8. -7
      March 12 2022
      [quote] [quote] But not a single material, but how good it is here in Russia (except for the aircraft part), Prices there, crown, education, economics, medicine, housing and communal services ... [/ quote]

      Tear off the fifth point from the sofa. Go out into the street, talk to the people Not on the forum, here all the fighters are similar, but with real people. Call friends or relatives in other cities. Make up your mind and keep it to yourself. It is only of interest to those who use other Internet products only against you. But don't ask stupid questions.
    9. +4
      March 12 2022
      In Estonia, they disappeared from the shelves - in general, all cereals (if there is something, the prices are 3-4 times higher), salt, soda, matches, interruptions with flour. Prices are going up on everything. But this is not a problem compared to the "refugees" who arrived yesterday at 12 and are expected to reach 000, and this is in a city with half a million people. But this is not the biggest problem, the biggest problem is that these are not the refugees who flee from Africa and the Arab countries, most of them come here from the frostbitten and Nazi part of Ukrainian society. Cars with Ukrainian flags appeared, in stores they often yell, “why they speak Russian, why are Muscovites here,” they behave impudently, which we don’t see from refugees from the African continent, they know their place, and Ukrainians believe that everyone owes them everything. Even now, I began to respect Arab and Negro refugees, they do not become impudent and everyone works, and they do not neglect any even dirty work. I can’t say everything, because if I write truthfully, they will accuse me of inciting hatred.
      Estonia got what she wanted, or rather not the people, but the prostate government.
      "There will still be Toli, oh, yoy, oh !!!"
      1. -2
        March 13 2022
        Just like that, all the cereals and other things took and disappeared? Do you understand that we live in the age of the Internet? It is enough to go to youtube and watch online videos that citizens shoot in stores to see what is on the shelves there. This is the first - the second there are online shopping sites, you can go there and see what goods you can order there. Something like this. It is possible, and even necessary, to replicate propaganda, but one must always be prepared for the fact that one can get into a puddle with this.
        1. 0
          March 13 2022
          Quote: Kuzya the Cat
          Just like that, all the cereals and other things took and disappeared? Do you understand that we live in the age of the Internet?

          So come in and see, but I live and it makes no sense for me to lie, when yesterday I took 8 kg of pasta, which cost 0,73 cents, and I already took last night for 1,39 euros. There is Polish buckwheat at 3,50 euros per kg. Not even "kerza", "shrapnel".
          Now I’m going on a hike with vegetable oil, maybe I’ll get another 10 liters.
          1. -2
            March 13 2022
            You wrote here that "everything disappeared"? They wrote about a rise in price by 3-4 times. And now write that the price has risen only 2 times (and if you believe it, there is no rise in price on the Lidl and Maxima website, on the contrary, there are sales). Yes, go for oil - suddenly there is not enough. laughing hi
            1. 0
              March 13 2022
              Quote: Kuzya the Cat
              there is no price increase on the Lidl and Maxima website, on the contrary, there are sales). Yes, go for oil - suddenly there is not enough.

              A beautiful word is also written on the fence, but in fact there is a hole from a knot, so do not flatter yourself. (Lidl only works for a week, he is trying to get out in the competition, and Maxim is right next to my work, there, just like in Rimi, there are no cereals at all, salt and soda even more so). Right now I’m going to Lidl, where at the opening I took sunflower seeds for 1,50 euros. Perhaps and "God will send a piece of cheese to the crow."
    10. +2
      March 12 2022
      Europe today is at war not with Russia, but with itself - and God save the EU if ... Russia comes to this war

      Europe is not at war with itself, but continues to poke around in its phobias, fears and resentments, remembering when Russia last came to conquer this land.
      Russia has not yet taken any real retaliatory steps, although in response to the destruction of our economy, it was necessary to limit (IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FROZEN OF THE STATE REFERENCES AND FUNDS) all trade relations and contracts... By the way, I do not see a quick exit from the organizations that forced our country to spend money on who knows what.
      The only explanation for everything is Putin's unwillingness to make the EU weaker and more vulnerable, which will ultimately strengthen the US ... But it will have to be done.
      There are proposals from China to replace European "partners" with their own. And this (after careful preparation and discussion) is a very real alternative. Until everything illegally blocked returns to Russia, to continue investing in the EU is idiocy.
    11. +1
      March 12 2022
      This is not true. Europe and other capitalists are directly at war with Russia. And Russia is fighting for its interests ...
    12. +2
      March 12 2022
      Of course, the sanctions had just begun to take effect, and Europe's eyes popped out of the effort.
      It is also necessary to use the reserve Russian channel, since YouTube has already closed the Russian channels and can get to Yury Podolyak.
    13. +2
      March 12 2022
      Who benefits from all this? European sanctions against Russia? Here is one beneficiary .. USA .. It’s not China that will come to the European market, but the USA .. It already happened .. after WWI, WWII ... Europeans, they don’t shoot themselves in the foot, in the head ...
    14. 0
      March 12 2022
      Maybe the Baltic States will want denationalization.

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