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Mariupol, Volnovakha, Izyum, Chuguev, Kyiv (Fastov, Gogolev)

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Yuri Podolyaka
Today, the main battles took place on the front between Gulyai-Pole and Vuhledar, where Russian troops continued to advance in order to reach the flank and further to the rear of the Donetsk group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as in the Kyiv region, which the RF Armed Forces slowly but surely continued to encircle, both from the West and and from the east.
Well, also in the evening, the attempts of the Russian troops to put an end to the units of the 81st infantry brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which had settled in the southern regions of Izyum, resumed.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 12 March 2022 03: 14
    0
    Today I saw a real video from a drone of a Natsik ambush on our armored column ... there is something to discuss without emotions with savvy members of the forum. what
    Questions for reconnaissance and security organization.
    1. Third district
      Third district 12 March 2022 03: 24
      +1
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Today I saw a real video from a drone of a Natsik ambush on our armored column ..

      And whose drone was ours or Ukropov's and how it all ended.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 12 March 2022 03: 29
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        It's hard to tell whose drone... but the Faustnik's position was clearly visible... the video is cropped... the full battle is not visible... the initial phase of the battle is shown.
        1. Sanguinius
          Sanguinius 12 March 2022 04: 49
          +3
          I understand you are talking about this case?

          Damn, I converted the vidos to gifs, as a result, VO uploaded it to me in an image.
          1. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 54
            +1
            Yes, about this one and gas station
            1. Sanguinius
              Sanguinius 12 March 2022 04: 55
              +1
              Well, in short, I have three cropping videos from the cart, but even converting vidos to the desired format ... VO still does not skip, or it gives an error, or it uploads a gif like this, or a file that is too large, falls under the restriction
          2. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 08: 45
            +1
            There is a whole video on YouTube there is not a small column of war leaks milliteri blog there are several videos and then with tos 1
      2. Sanguinius
        Sanguinius 12 March 2022 04: 57
        +1
        Most likely, they shot it from an ordinary quadrocopter, judging by the video. Ours seemed to fight back, but our tank was still set on fire from NLAW, from about 40-50 meters away.
        They hit the tower, but the gunner and the commander managed to escape from the tower, and don’t know the fur of the waters.
        1. Alexander Galaktionov
          Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 05: 03
          +3
          It is a question that our military Ministry of Defense would at least buy quadrics, if there are not enough UAVs, I forgot these dgi 3 about them and the image is excellent and the range is about 12 km
          1. Sanguinius
            Sanguinius 12 March 2022 05: 12
            +4
            Yes, yes, I agree, at least there would be at least some situational awareness, one or two of these could be launched ahead of the column and assess the situation from a strafing flight. And then the ukrovs have an advantage precisely in this, not only are quadrics allowed, but also the locals like the info leak where ours are going.
            1. Alexander Galaktionov
              Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 05: 18
              +2
              Well, yes, they leaked in which direction they went, those are ahead of the ambush, especially since grenade launchers are being driven by planes without interruption. I forgot what speed he had conditionally, let it be 120 km per hour an hour there an hour back and 150 hours to patrol and there are at least two of them just 12 hours
        2. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 12 March 2022 05: 13
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          The width of the roadbed is 6 meters ... along the segments you can more accurately estimate ... about 30 meters somewhere.
          1. Sanguinius
            Sanguinius 12 March 2022 05: 16
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            Well, it’s not fundamentally important, the main thing is that it’s not too far ... all the same, the NLAW grenade is cocked from 20 meters)
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 12 March 2022 05: 23
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              I wonder if the faustnik was destroyed?
              There seems to be another position nearby ... either a submachine gunner or a machine gunner ... the tracks are visible.
              1. Sanguinius
                Sanguinius 12 March 2022 05: 26
                +1
                I can’t know, I hope so, there the tank then blew off to the side of the road somewhere, maybe they had several positions, but I didn’t notice that someone was firing at exactly the position from which they blew at the tank
              2. Sanguinius
                Sanguinius 12 March 2022 05: 30
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                In general, the nature of the launch is strange, to be honest ... if you have a video with the moment of the shot, then you will see how the shot from the grove itself is visible first, and then the launch of the rocket itself, as if a rocket was launched a little behind the tank on the very side of the road
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 12 March 2022 03: 32
      -6
      You saw today, and I have been watching this bloody circus for 2 weeks /// and /// I have been watching
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 12 March 2022 03: 41
        +4
        You saw today, and I have been watching this bloody circus for 2 weeks /// and /// I have been watching

        Well, share information ... within the limits of what is permitted, of course. hi
        And then, as always, you collect real information bit by bit ... information slag from both sides of a ton.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 12 March 2022 11: 29
          -2
          у
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Well, share information ... within the limits of what is permitted, of course.
          Early in the morning, at dawn, learn the songs of the Afghan war. Everything is there. And about the ribbons /// how not to protect them --- the most vulnerable part of the war /// the fucking communications that Ukrainian partisan detachments work on. It is centralized resistance. The Armed Forces of Ukraine currently have a very powerful amount of information /// Danke Shon, NATO ///.
          P.S. Lech, I have my boys there ... a lot. I will refrain from conveying sensations according to the Oath. It’s like THEY --- cold march under hot fire, then they chat, report about this and that. throw it out of myself .. So I will cock the shutter, click.
    3. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 00
      0
      What video is this? Where are the tanks with BMP 2 or even with TOS 1?
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 12 March 2022 04: 18
        +1
        Looks like a gas station nearby
        visible ... it's difficult to say for sure ... I won't lie. hi
        Tanks and BMP-2s are visible... but the actions of our fighters in response are very competent... they react quickly.
        Too bad there is no air cover.
        1. Alexander Galaktionov
          Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 24
          +3
          And yes, they correctly worked there, this is the question of where the UAVs and turntables for cover, not the call of both, because there are no analogues in the world, even elementary from the Afghan, there is no cover from the air or reconnaissance ahead from the UAV there is no additional protection
        2. Alexander Galaktionov
          Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 26
          +1
          It’s even interesting to look beyond Mariupol here everything will be visible and what kind of intelligence we have and air support and guided missiles
    4. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 10
      +3
      A question for intelligence, yes, even from a UAV, the group is not notified there is an eagle 30 new ones, there are also 16 e5g halls in Syria, as it seems, both of these UAVs with a normal kortinka plus a warm and backlight for the edge and red field, and guarding columns with fuel and lubricants and supplies, yes there are such there was an Afghan and other databases, one fig, as I noticed everything on the video ambush there was 1 lynx and a Kamaz, but even the Kamaz, although the cabin was pronated, didn’t break through there, only traces of bullets, this is the question that rear vehicles, at least some cabs have armor, these are those with an awning but with fuel and lubricants I didn’t see at all that they were armored and how much I watch the video sadness, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles without additional protection
    5. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 47
      +4
      Here, too, I read other forums like the military, and many write with intelligence, we don’t have super few UAVs, they talk about drums even in China or Iran, let’s buy
      1. Third district
        Third district 12 March 2022 06: 08
        0
        Find a video on the net - a lilac park in Nikolaev. We must show it to all Ukrainian volunteers. To not even think to twitch.
        1. Victor Chernenko
          Victor Chernenko 12 March 2022 06: 43
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          This is Kherson, Lilac Park, March 1. There were several such locations. The result is the same everywhere. Very hard video.
    6. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 12 March 2022 05: 46
      +5
      Typical ambush. Missed patrols and hit during the concentration. Someone is very good at managing them. Local raids were and will be. This can change little strategically. If you saw another video of the ambush, then there is a very competent work of the column. A blow to the side of the head without breaking through. The mechanic immediately takes the car away and the BMP immediately starts working with a cannon. Kaa and the rest of the cars in the convoy. What killed it was the suicide bombers who practically hit point-blank. There are 200 meters from the launch site. Leave alive without a chance. The crew of the tank, judging by the video, is intact. The remote sensing worked and the core clearly went to the side. A position in some kind of garbage heap. Very well covered. From the air you will find hell.
      1. Sanguinius
        Sanguinius 12 March 2022 06: 00
        +2
        Nobody argues with this that they worked competently in the convoy, BUT if there is a fact of such ambushes, then there were days earlier, which means there were losses, otherwise here we don’t throw it off, then everything is fake, only if it’s in ours sometimes useful, sometimes not fake.
        Some characters are sitting here with rose-colored glasses.
        They saw these vidos, the tank was hit and burned, the fur of the waters led the tank away from the column until the BC caught fire (I hope it survived).
        In strategic terms, this can also play a role, just like that, a couple of support columns will be ambushed, several fuel trucks or other special vehicles will be burned, and as a result, combat vehicles on the front end will lose ammunition, fuel, and maintenance. They are thrown, respectively, the units stop or their advance slows down. So these ambushes also play a role in the war.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 12 March 2022 06: 11
          +3
          Who says there are no losses? There is a strategic issue. It is performed. How will these attacks change the fact that the same Kyiv is getting more and more surrounded? No. We must not forget the fact that we are on the offensive. So we feel, scout and sometimes make mistakes. A pair of fuel columns cannot play lost roles by definition. Locally it can affect, strategically not. Zhd under control, air too. You can use various supply options even for advanced units.
          1. Sanguinius
            Sanguinius 12 March 2022 06: 27
            +3
            You know, you may understand this, there are no complaints against you, but most of them are heroes and only, everything happens with one left, easily and simply ... there are no losses, everything is cool, wonderful, so they don’t understand this.
            And the discussions in the comments, that’s what they are for, to share their opinions, otherwise they start a little something right away, but you’re dill, but you’re such a cut, without even considering the point of view and without thinking with your head.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 12 March 2022 06: 42
              +4
              It worries me a little. We have only one problem. And the point here is not at all in ambushes or local losses. Attempts to save the civilian population are used against ours. 90% of losses are due to this. This is very annoying. Where you can just demolish to hell, we all storm. Where you can just burn everything, we clean it.
              1. Sanguinius
                Sanguinius 12 March 2022 06: 44
                +1
                And I agree with you on this too!
              2. Living7111972
                Living7111972 13 March 2022 00: 19
                0
                Yes sir! All the same, we will restore, so at least we will put smaller boys!
      2. maksbazhin
        maksbazhin 12 March 2022 07: 44
        +2
        The ambush is typical, but from the point of view of tactics: why were the columns hit on the head? shoot in the trail until they figure out where the fire is from while it unfolds so many things you can do belay
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 12 March 2022 08: 19
          +1
          Yes, there was a suicide bomber. From such a distance, hope to survive ... In my opinion, the Terbatovites were put to the slaughter. They will also quickly find out in shiinu and transfer the fire. They will beat in the direction of determining the approximate points possible. There are no mushrooms
          1. maksbazhin
            maksbazhin 12 March 2022 08: 38
            +1
            Well, that means thanks for, unfortunately, another, fortunately "not expensive" lesson, then they will be more collected, more attentive, and therefore more whole.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 12 March 2022 08: 45
              0
              Unfortunately, this will still happen. The key here is reaction time. Consistency of actions. I read this great. The reaction is just instant. And to calculate the suicide bomber ... I'm afraid few people expected this. And the fact that he was left there to die is a fact.
              1. Alexander Galaktionov
                Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 08: 56
                +1
                It is necessary to minimize and carry out reconnaissance from UAVs or if there are few of them even from copters
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 12 March 2022 08: 59
                  +1
                  That is how it is produced. I repeat they were right next to the road. Dozens of meters. This is complete insanity, but apparently this must now be reckoned with. That they send people to commit suicide. Well, or pure terbatovtsy without any knowledge.
                  https://t.me/PodolyakaYurij/346?single
                2. maksbazhin
                  maksbazhin 12 March 2022 09: 03
                  +1
                  They will not help in such cases, in a forest plantation they will disguise themselves for once, and in a couple of weeks everything will start to turn green ...
                  1. Alexander Galaktionov
                    Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 09: 07
                    +1
                    I watched Strelkov, he wisely speaks to the green light, it is necessary to clean up as much as possible, otherwise it will be very very difficult later
    7. sibsolo
      sibsolo 12 March 2022 20: 24
      -1
      I do not like such hidden attempts to criticize the actions of our military in Ukraine. And there are many such users. Putting on the mask of "guardians of Russia" they gradually cause reputational damage to our troops. Simple doubt, numerous questions, and even bewilderment.
  2. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 13
    +4
    Here they talk about shock UAVs like Orion and kamikaze drones from the Hall, but you look and even reconnaissance mats are not enough about shock units in general
    1. Sanguinius
      Sanguinius 12 March 2022 04: 53
      0
      I saw a video where the Ukrainians boasted of our Eleron-3 captured UAV
      1. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 56
        0
        Yes, he even saw in a special case
      2. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 05: 00
        +1
        I saw the requested Typhoon K, the typhoon is ordinary and medical, this is a question about fuel and lubricants what because they have good armor, one thing confuses me in two is that there is no Crossbow and loopholes, this is an ambush and how to shoot back?
        1. Sanguinius
          Sanguinius 12 March 2022 05: 03
          +3
          Yes, in principle, it doesn’t matter whether there is a Crossbow or not ... they’ve already appropriated the Tiger with the same Crossbow, they ride it to the fullest, only apparently the crew prudently screwed Kord before leaving the car.

          Or here is our T-80BVM captured by the Ukrainians with a BC, and they are already riding it with might and main
          1. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 05: 08
            +2
            Damn, at least they would set fire to or destroy our Oh, these famous canopies that fall off, at least they would fasten dz 4s24 like on the sides. Did they have bk and fuels and lubricants too? Or have the Ukrainians flooded?
            1. Sanguinius
              Sanguinius 12 March 2022 05: 14
              +2
              Everything was there, he was whole, there was a vidos how they defiantly darted somewhere from the same place, turned around and left on it.
              I also support ... at least they disabled the equipment or something.
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 12 March 2022 05: 47
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            So what? Trophies have been and always will be.
            1. Sanguinius
              Sanguinius 12 March 2022 05: 50
              +1
              There is nothing, everything is just fine.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 12 March 2022 05: 52
                +2
                Not the epithet. It's just not surprising. Cars are abandoned for a variety of reasons. Saving crews, which is much more important.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 12 March 2022 05: 50
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          When advancing the columns, in case of any breakdowns or malfunctions, the cars will be abandoned. There is little surprise in this.
          1. Sanguinius
            Sanguinius 12 March 2022 05: 52
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            The car is whole and working, there are no breakdowns, it was just abandoned.
            You need to try to make fewer gifts to the enemy and try to destroy equipment.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 12 March 2022 05: 56
              +1
              Who told you this? Have you personally been there?) Breakdowns come in various forms. Many can be eliminated on the spot by the crew, but there is no time for this. Nevmerliki came, corrected and drove off. Everything. In global terms, this will not help them much. It's just one piece of equipment.
              1. Sanguinius
                Sanguinius 12 March 2022 06: 04
                +2
                I agree, the breakdown could not be so serious, or maybe the fuel and lubricants simply ran out, BUT then you just need to destroy it, or at least try.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 12 March 2022 06: 15
                  -1
                  What for? Let's say 10 cars for various purposes got into such a situation. Rears will come, rebates will fix everything. 9 out of 10. But if you undermine them, then destroy these nine with your own hands?)
                  1. Sanguinius
                    Sanguinius 12 March 2022 06: 42
                    +2
                    I understand you perfectly)
                    But you see what the problem is, you also make assumptions, like me)
                    And if, let's say, the rem bat only managed to repair 1 out of 10, and the rest went to the enemy ... what's next?)
                    I don’t know, for example, it’s possible, for example, to cut some wiring nodes, cut something in the engine or tear it off for every fireman, so that the Ukrainians in the field would not have the opportunity to repair everything, and then, as the situation improves, the rem bat will be able to come up and fix it normally and back in service.
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 12 March 2022 06: 46
                      -3
                      Losses are already inherent in any military action. It's tough, but that's how it should be. They are different. Losing 10 percent is just a statistic. What is good. That's how everything is arranged. Of course. But apparently there is no order for this, so they don’t destroy it.
  3. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 12 March 2022 04: 20
    +6
    And where is Nona SVK based on armored personnel carriers? recourse so the column goes to transfer the coordinates and cover the ambush there and the controlled line can be used Algeria bought our 10 infantry fighting vehicles, like everything plus an infantry fighting vehicle 3 with additional protection, Iraq didn’t need to buy its supposedly, only everything from exhibitions and its own will do, I don’t see sights from our military , not everyone has protection suits for tanks and armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, night vision and teplyakov too, for that the generals don’t care and ours have such flights
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 12 March 2022 22: 33
      +2
      The first elite units that entered Ukraine were well equipped.
      In a modern way.
      And then ... When the motorized rifle divisions went.
      Helmets and pouches of the standards of the 60s of the last century.
      No body armor. And on the BMP-1.
      And, judging by the video excerpts, individual training
      close to zero.