Croatian press: The cause of the explosion in Zagreb could be the fall of a Ukrainian Air Force drone, control of which was previously lost

Information about a strange incident in the capital of Croatia is confirmed. The Ministry of the Interior of this Balkan republic says that an explosion was heard in the Jarun district of the city of Zagreb at night (after 11 pm local time the day before). Arriving at the scene, emergency services found a funnel with fragments of concrete structures (curbs).

Upon inspection of the scene, a parachute was allegedly found. It was sent for study to the laboratory of the Ministry of Defense of the country.

So far, there is no official information about whether we are talking about a parachute for landing people, about a parachute from an UAV, or is it a special parachute from the so-called descent munitions, including home-made ones.

The reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Croatia say that several cars were damaged on Jarunska Street. There are no victims or injured.

The local publication T6, which specializes mainly in military topics, reports that we are talking about an unmanned aerial vehicle. This is indicated by metal fragments found at the site of the explosion. The material says that the drone could enter the airspace of Croatia from the airspace of Ukraine. It is reported that the object ended up in Croatia, flying over Hungary. It should be noted that from the Transcarpathian region of Ukraine to the borders of Croatia is less than 500 km.

Croatian observer Peter Vojinovic writes that it could be a Tu-141 reconnaissance drone, which is operated by the Ukrainian Air Force. Earlier, as the author writes, there was information that Ukrainian operators were losing contact with one of their reconnaissance UAVs. At the same time, the author expresses bewilderment about how such an aircraft could easily fly hundreds of kilometers in the airspace of NATO countries.

Comments

[NIKN]

Earlier, as the author writes, there was information that Ukrainian operators were losing contact with one of their reconnaissance UAVs.

EW at work.

[Giant thought]

Serene Europe rapturously sleeps in a languid bliss far from the war, so the glorious NATO air defense slept through the uninvited guest.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thought Giant

Serene Europe rapturously sleeps in a languid bliss far from the war, so the glorious NATO air defense slept through the uninvited guest.

And "there" in addition to drones, they stuffed thousands of MANPADS and ATGMs. Wait in Europe for the return line, he will fly in and say "I'm a combo!" - didn't wait...

[Shurik70]

Quote: tihonmarine

And "there" in addition to drones, they stuffed thousands of MANPADS and ATGMs

In Russia, they remember very well how "skillfully" Ukrainians are able to aim anti-aircraft missiles.
In Moldova too.
But in Slovakia, Romania and Poland, they do not seem to realize this

[Vend]

Quote: Giant thought

Serene Europe rapturously sleeps in a languid bliss far from the war, so the glorious NATO air defense slept through the uninvited guest.

Soon so many weapons will be trampled into Europe that crime there will go off scale.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Wend

Soon so many weapons will be trampled into Europe that crime there will go off scale.

And how many will trample those who can and will use this weapon.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: NIKNN

EW at work.

In general, the Tu-141 was controlled by an autopilot according to the programmed program, although it is not known what the Ukrainians could modernize there. But most likely the electronic warfare is not in business here.

What is more remarkable is that the flight through one and a half NATO countries went unnoticed!

[NIKN]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

In general, the Tu-141 was controlled by an autopilot according to the program

Then who laid down the program to Croatia?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: NIKNN

Then who laid down the program to Croatia?

Lenin, of course, he planted everything, all sorts of bombs ...
Questions for you, colleague.

[NIKN]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Questions for you, colleague.

Well, yes. Just wondering. Just the issue of overcoming air defense on this device was given special attention, because he had to overcome air defense 2 times. In particular, plastics, etc., were used in large quantities. In the task, it was possible to set any flight profile, both at high and at low altitudes, and taking into account the speed in the region of 1000 and taking into account the air defense of the countries in which he visited, I do not see any particular difficulties. The issue of electronic warfare, which I put at the forefront, meant not only interception via a control channel or satellite positioning system, but also on the tasks of disabling the electronic systems of the device. Somewhere there was information about such an impact on equipment by electronic warfare units, including fuses for unguided weapons. For example, the EW Machine 1L262 "Mercury-BM"

[LAWNER]

I also saw such articles ... But they are all in the “Assumed” mode, obviously, most likely .. And all on different resources and different countries.

[NIKN]

EW 1L262 "Mercury-BM" has been in service for a long time, by today it is probably cooler, in terms of characteristics.

[LAWNER]

Don’t be upset ... These are exactly the articles I read ... Similar to your comment ... - "and for a long time, today it IS POSSIBLY cooler," ... My path of conjecture, PRACTICE and analytics (in the mood) ... I love Read Analytics from Two Sides... I don't watch central channels in principle... except for Chinese...

[NIKN]

Indeed, I am philosophical about grief. Well, “Rtut-BM” has indeed been standing for a long time (relatively of course) and this is already the modernization of “Rtut-B”, another question is the possibilities of application, and specifically I am not aware of this situation. So, under these conditions, any ideas can only be speculation. So. opinion, or desire to see this or believe in another, is a personal matter for everyone.

[LAWNER]

Do you want a story from "It was or Not" ... When the USSR collapsed for the sake of the globalization project ... There was talk about the separation of the Kamchatka Territory and Sakhalin ... As it turned out, when creating such a state, with any form of government. It could dictate the conditions for everything Peace. The presence of air defense, tank formations, submarine and surface fleets. And most importantly, the presence of 1 unit of nuclear weapons per thousand people. The exchange would be as follows ... 1,5 million Kamchadals for 400 million Americans .. Therefore, I do not believe in "maybe most likely, and God forbid Experts

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: NIKNN

Quote: Vladimir_2U

In general, the Tu-141 was controlled by an autopilot according to the program

Then who laid down the program to Croatia?

Croatians. They kind of sent volunteers to Ukraine, who apparently decided to discreetly steal the UAV and park it near their house. It turned out noisy and interesting. (joke) In general, now there will be a lot of questions for NATO air defense, because the stray is not at all small

[NIKN]

Yes, the stray is not small, but it was specially created to get sick with air defense 2 times, back and forth. I wrote above. It's just that apparently their air defense remained in the same capabilities when this device was created, the update advertisement did not affect the air defense capabilities. And the joke about theft is gone.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

What is more remarkable is that the flight through one and a half NATO countries went unnoticed!

And it's almost junk that glows on radar like a Christmas tree. And what if we start to release something unobtrusive? Where will he cross the finish line?

[fa2998]

There would be a lot of debris from the Tu-141, which would definitely qualify. Yes, and Turkish UAVs would definitely have a lot of rubbish. I don’t like all versions. Let’s follow the situation.

[svp67]

Quote: NIKNN

EW at work.

Yes, I think, here is the time and the clubhand of those who used this "Swift". It’s still Soviet and designed to work in a nuclear war, so the electronic warfare for him is like an elephant’s pellet, but the “curvature” of those who entered the flight task in the wrong way or did the check before the flight incorrectly ... yes

[Bear]

Yesterday, Croatian Prime Minister A. Plenkovic called for all kinds of support for Ukraine's accession to the EU, but today he "changed his shoes" and said "you can't join the EU overnight." Probably due to the fact that Ukraine "launched" the Soviet TU-141 "Strizh" UAV in Zagreb, which "landed successfully" in the capital of Croatia, forming a decent funnel. Yes, Soviet military equipment has an excellent margin of safety.

[Alien From]

Ze green grass seems to be very fond of ....

[antivirus]

The United States is so persuaded to buy Europe by their patriots .. And for xxx billion, and for 10 years ahead, download them to the military-industrial complex

[APASUS]

UAV that exploded into atoms during the explosion? What nonsense. Even with an explosion, parts remain, and here the whole car turns out, which flew 500 km. The Croats are wise

[Vladimirets]

Yes, Soviet UAVs fly far. 100% West will start pulling up our participation. Until they figure out how.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

So the photo was already taken in the morning or afternoon, and the device crashed after 11 pm! During the night, lovers of souvenirs and non-ferrous metal seem to have stolen everything.

[GREG68]

UAV that exploded into atoms during the explosion? What nonsense. Even with an explosion, parts remain, and here the whole car turns out, which flew 500 km. The Croats are wise

I completely agree. Moreover, Strizh is not at all a small UAV, both in size and in weight. Something wise, really

[vadivm59]

here is what I think. this car has a weight of more than 5 tons and a length of more than 14 meters. A couple of broken curbs would not have done.

[Ru_Na]

Urgently! Published photo of the aircraft shortly before the fall!

[28st region]

The weight of this UAV is more than 5 tons. He would have shied away there and there was a huge pile of debris.

[28st region]

Its maximum range is 1000 km.
And shied away. It didn’t necessarily explode, with such weight and speed I dug a hole deeper and parts like the engine tumbled along the way. There are trees and poles here. He fell vertically and went to the depth.

[prior]

And besides the parachute, what, is there the wreckage of the "Swift", what is everyone so unequivocally stating?
I see the funnel, the wreckage - not at all.

There should be a lot of rubble left from this crap.

[Rage66]

Quote: APASUS

UAV that exploded into atoms during the explosion? What nonsense. Even with an explosion, parts remain, and here the whole car turns out, which flew 500 km. The Croats are wise

One wing survived almost completely ... It was determined from it

[rocket757]

Versions will develop without stopping ... until the official authorities figure out what it was?

[Brturin]

so the continuation has already gone - a source in law enforcement agencies. "Today there were two cases of use by Ukraine of a Soviet-designed Tu-141 Strizh unmanned aerial vehicle," he said. "The first of them fell near the city of Krasnoperekopsk (Republic of Crimea), the second - in Zagreb (Croatia), flying more than 700 km," the source said. https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/14043721

[rocket757]

We used them as targets ... sort of. But there are few of them left, if at all.

[Sailor]

Perhaps it will help the Euroelites understand how dangerous country 404 is and how "reliable" their air defense and their allies are.

[svd-xnumx]

Well, no one became indignant when they shot down the Romanian MIG-21, the "roof" in the person of the impudent Saxons gave the right to carry out any abominations.

[ODERVIT]

Blessed. It's only the beginning.

[Evil 55]

They will assemble the elements, make up fragments, determine ... if they want, of course .. Well, not "Caliber", definitely, which means there is nothing to accuse the Russian Federation of ... Although, I confess, NATO air defense reconnaissance in combat was carried out successfully.

[-Paul-]

But Russia will still be to blame. They have it so accepted in the West - Russia is to blame for everything.

[LAWNER]

We collected, made up fragments .. definitely BUK, definitely the country of Russia .. I'm talking about Malaysians ...

[sen]

At the same time, the author expresses bewilderment about how such an aircraft could easily fly hundreds of kilometers in the airspace of NATO countries.

Flying low. He flew, so our cruise missiles will fly if necessary.

[VSZMK]

Flying low. To the rain

[Vladimir61]

The collective insanity continues!

[Piramidon]

It is reported that the object ended up in Croatia, flying over Hungary.

And what, there is no air defense in NATO?

[dzvero]

An interesting question, especially in light of the fact that American intelligence officers are "hanging" in the sky 24/7. Plus ground-based radars. "Swift" is never inconspicuous. Here they either overslept, or deliberately did not shoot down, so that later they could blame the Russian Federation.

[vladcub]

It is on vacation in full force.

[Bayun]

There is an opinion that there will be more and more of this in Europe. Something from somewhere will begin to fly in and fall here and there. The fun of the hooligans will be to shoot from the "Stinger" at a civilian aircraft, for the sake of "see what will happen", as an option - with the "Javellin" on the truck, where the racket "fun" flies.

[Cotton Colorado]

Quote: Bayun

There is an opinion that there will be more and more of this in Europe. Something from somewhere will begin to fly in and fall here and there. The fun of the hooligans will be to shoot from the "Stinger" at a civilian aircraft, for the sake of "see what will happen", as an option - with the "Javellin" on the truck, where the racket "fun" flies.

And how many likes can you collect!

[iouris]

What an extraordinary event, completely unrelated to the two hundred Croat volunteers ("wild geese")! And also the Romanian "Lyatak" and "Guintowing".

[tralmaster]

Well, why don’t they ask a question, but what about their mercenaries in the Donbass. Hitler kaput!

[rotmistr60]

The cause of the explosion in Zagreb could be the fall of the drone of the Ukrainian Air Force

Probably, these are Croatian mercenaries fighting in Ukraine against the Donbass (there were 200 units) and decided to send a parcel with trophies, but something went wrong.

how such an aircraft could easily fly hundreds of kilometers in the airspace of NATO countries.

Probably waving the Ukrainian flag. But seriously, something is wrong with NATO with air defense on the Eastern flank. How they will reflect "aggression" is not clear.

[Fitter65]

Well, that's the normal approach. Croats to Bandera 200 mercenaries, Bandera to them a drone ...

[Bykov.]

Something small hole from the Tu-141.

[iouris]

Yes, not impressive. And nothing else will arrive?

[Bykov.]

Quote: iouris

Yes, not impressive. And nothing else will arrive?

You should not exclude. This is not the last one. Yes, and subsequent launches will be carried out, the same people that threw this UAV to the Croats.

[Two]

He just fell, there was no carp ...

[Bykov.]

Quote: Dos

He just fell, there was no carp ...

So without fuel, just from one mass of this UAV, there should have been more destruction. There's almost a whole plane there.

[Bradley]

Well, or someone wants it to look like it's a Ukrainian UAV.

[lomograph]

It is symbolic.
In Landon and Warsaw, everyone tensed up: what else to expect from Banderostan?

[Reserve buildbat]

They write on mail.ru that there were two parachutes, it is not clear what fell, but shortly before that, something fell in the Kursk region in Russia.
There is an elder in the garden, and in Kyiv there is an uncle, in short. The impression is that they use very heavy drugs there.

[vladcub]

"they use very heavy drugs" a real fact: in the 70s, the radar operator smoked "weed" and mistook the geese for the Air Force of the Soviet Union. This was in our then media

[Third district]

Peter Vojinovich writes that it could be a Tu-141 reconnaissance drone, which is operated by the Ukrainian Air Force.

Soviet-made drone, they didn’t say before that they were preserved in the Ukrainian army. I wonder if our troops have them or is it some kind of fake.

[Two]

Half of Zagreb was pissed off there, and the other half was gone! How! Russia attacked...

[Fedor M]

that it could be a Tu-141 reconnaissance drone ... I am tormented by vague doubts It has a length of 15 m, such a piece of aluminum was not seen by the radar stations of Croatia and Hungary ?!

[AshPoseidon]

It is strange that one or more countries flew through and no one noticed. And in Romania, NATO missile defense systems also turned out to be unnoticed.

[evgen1221]

If that 141, then the flight program could not have been changed since Soviet times, so it flew as the Soviet Union said.

[vladcub]

Or are NATO air defenses complete gouges or a "neighborly" drone? The latter is more likely.
If we recall the recent history of the Balkans, I would not exclude "neighbors". Not necessarily a deliberate terrorist attack, but a hand-backed operator of the local Air Force.
Our old people once said: "there is only a rumor about a wolf, but a horse and hares will eat" when they want to say that everything is possible

[Fisherman]

NATO air defense, as everyone understands - FUFLO!

[Charik]

provocation 100%

[KADINIK]

This is called "Ukraine was accepted into the EU." True, the landing was hard, and so it can be considered successful.

[Servisinzhener]

The UAV was not decommunized before launch, so it flew to where it was designed to fly.
But seriously. That is most likely an incorrectly entered flight task. Confuse west with east. And this means that there are no competent specialists left.

[faterdom]

So, they piled on the Romanians, now here's a treat for the Croats ...
Well, I want to join NATO, but they don’t take it.
So at least this way you can get into NATO!

[Nadrub]

Cool device Tu-141, it is probably still on the lamps ... with a warm tube sound :)))) vintage!

[Radical]

Quote: Orso

Yesterday, Croatian Prime Minister A. Plenkovic called for all kinds of support for Ukraine's accession to the EU, but today he "changed his shoes" and said "you can't join the EU overnight." Probably due to the fact that Ukraine "launched" the Soviet TU-141 "Strizh" UAV in Zagreb, which "landed successfully" in the capital of Croatia, forming a decent funnel. Yes, Soviet military equipment has an excellent margin of safety.

What are you speaking about? The USSR only produced galoshes ....

[Nikolay Sayenko]

what MILITARY cartoons Nata draws .... feast for the eyes!

[Div Divich]

Refugees from Ukraine have now fled all over Europe, and in Ukraine they were handing out weapons and ammunition to everyone, so it is likely that Ukrainian weapons and ammunition will soon surface in European countries if Europeans do not search refugees when crossing the border.

[alex967]

They write another roofing felts fell, roofing felts were shot down in the Crimea.

https://vz.ru/news/2022/3/11/1148166.html

[boomerang.]

So Reznikov recently promised a surprise, probably this is a surprise.
https://vz.ru/news/2022/3/11/1148166.html в Крыму тоже сбили.

[ada]

Taking into account the second, launched towards the Crimea - a provocation.

[Commodore Arctic]

yes yes Tu-144