Coverage of Kharkov from the south - Battle for Chuguev

Yuri Podolyaka
This afternoon, a message came that Russian troops appeared in the Malaya Rogan region. And if they gain a foothold there, then Chuguev's fate will be sealed. And yet, it can become a prelude to the coverage of Kharkov from the south.

Comments

[Russian]

Issues from Yuri are getting shorter (they used to be 8-9 minutes each), there are fewer and fewer events to cover. The surprise has passed, now the confrontation has almost turned into a positional one.
Then someone shouted that it was necessary to take all of Ukraine)) The eastern part would be taken, they didn’t even land in Odessa. A good mine with a bad game. In the meantime, it's been 2 weeks since the operation began.

[Nycteaph]

The only question is why? I do not think that there is a shortage of personnel or armored vehicles.

[Russian]

I do not pretend to be authentic, but from the couch it looks like this:
- The operation had to be carried out suddenly, because not everyone was prepared
- We underestimated the enemy: we thought that they would meet almost with flowers, as a result, half of the residents are opposed to us, half are afraid to show that they sympathize with us
- Lack of personnel: that's why stories emerge with the involvement of conscripts. For such a large-scale operation, 200 thousand people is very little.
- We are trying to protect the population, it greatly slows down the progress

[Sarboz]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

- We are trying to protect the population, it greatly slows down the progress

Of all the things you've said, this is the only one that is true.

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

- Lack of personnel: that's why stories emerge with the involvement of conscripts.

These conscripts were "involved" not in the conduct of hostilities. We were preparing a delivery for shipment to Ukraine, there were not enough drivers. Put the one who was at hand. Hoped for Russian maybe. What is there, they will ride, throw off the load and immediately return. Nobody will notice.

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

For such a large-scale operation, 200 thousand people is very little.

And who evaluated it? 120 thousand for Afghanistan - how is it?

[the lord]

Can I ask a question that, under this video of Yuri on YouTube, was asked by one comrade, most likely a Ukrainian, how, like a week ago, they talked about the encirclement of Kharkov and leaving it far behind the front, and then again an attempt to cover it from the east? And when did the Russian troops manage to evaporate?
And 200 thousand) and earlier it was 150 thousand - this is really small, since in Afghanistan there are mountains and holding certain nodes, you can hold vast territories. And then there's the plain. Here, as for ours in 1941-1942, it was difficult to hold on, and for the Fritz it was extremely hard and they held on to the cities, and not to the territories in the end. And in the current situation, there is clearly not enough strength to take cities. And soon it will get warmer, the earth will dry up, brilliant green will appear and our heroes will be added with special nuts for peeling, spoiling their teeth.

[Sarboz]

Quote: znavel

can I ask a question that under this video of Yuri on YouTube was asked by one comrade, most likely a Ukrainian- How so, like a week ago they talked about the encirclement of Kharkov and leaving it far behind the front, and then again an attempt to cover it from the east? And when did the Russian troops manage to evaporate?

You can ask. But why? We don't have enough operational information. But this is how it should be during the operation. But the General Staff has exhaustive information. That's why he and the General Staff. The operation is going according to plan. If there is a backlog somewhere, they will introduce reserves. In this area, we have an undeniable advantage. Reasoning about the ongoing operation in terms of the Great Patriotic War is not entirely correct. The positional method of warfare is not globally applied, there is no continuous line of defense equipped in engineering terms, the resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is of a focal nature. The parties widely use the maneuver of forces and means. Therefore, after the capture of Kharkov, the front line went far to the south. In the rear, the Armed Forces of Ukraine regrouped and activated resistance. The grouping in Volnovakha was liquidated. It took several days. Kharkiv is much larger than Volnovakha, which is why they are in no hurry to clean it up. But his time will come.
And most importantly, the time will come when the Armed Forces of Ukraine will cease to exist as a regular force, the moment will come when Zelensky will have nothing to manage because of the cordon. Then such questions of "comrades from Ukraine" will disappear by themselves.

[Zefr]

Of course, I am not a military man, but during WW2 the distance of fire was 5-10 km. Now there are 70 kilometers. The depth of aviation work was 200-300 kilometers. And now 500. There is nothing even to compare the bomb load. "Caliber" generally flies freely through the whole of Ukraine. The support nodes of the opponents are located literally in different cities from each other. And the Nazis don’t go out into the fields at all - the density of modern artillery fire will simply plow them into black soil. So they hide in the city.
As far as I understand, the main problem even for such a relatively small army is logistics. Moving too fast

[the lord]

And why all the time joyfully describe the rapid passage of our troops, bypassing the cities, as a solution to demilitarization and actively forget about the second task - denazification. And it cannot be solved without entering the cities and full-fledged occupation of the entire former Ukraine. Yes, and according to the map of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which I saw today at Onufrienko's. the Russian Federation still has borders with Nazi Ukraine in the Kharkov and Sumy regions! How is this possible in principle. After all, this is a threat to our civilians! We are waiting for the next Budenovsk with ukrobasaev? And then there are the Nazis actively mastering (although many say that they also initially studied these methods) guerrilla warfare. There is no need to go out into the fields. and a lot of damage can be done. Including in our territory. And the tenderness with which we treat them gives good chances where we need to dissolve, and where we need to appear.

[Santa Fe]

The only question is why? I do not think that there is a shortage of personnel or armored vehicles.

The operation plan assumed the Crimean scenario. Only in this form could the operation have political and military meaning.

Now, the aircraft - either move forward by inertia, where possible, continuing to fire shots in the direction of the enemy

Or plan B is hastily developed, in any case, in this form, victory becomes unnecessary. Continue to advance deeper through increasing resistance or control a country with 100% hostile population and ... it’s easier to freeze the situation in the form of a repetition of the “Strange War”, which is now observed

[Russian]

Everything, if we don’t write that everything is fine, they immediately throw minuses))
Show yourself, fighters of the invisible front And how the Nazis put minuses from around the corner ...

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Everything, if we don’t write that everything is fine, they immediately throw minuses))
Show yourself, fighters of the invisible front And how the Nazis put minuses from around the corner ...

And here, the comments that are positive for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are minus, and negative, depending on who runs in first.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Santa Fe

Now, the aircraft - either move forward by inertia, where possible, continuing to fire shots in the direction of the enemy

Boh level analytics!

Quote: Santa Fe

Keep advancing deeper through more and more resistance

Continue to advance, leaving unsuppressed large forces in the rear ... it's easier to shoot yourself.

[Santa Fe]

Continue to advance, leaving unsuppressed large forces in the rear ... it's easier to shoot yourself.

At first they didn't pay attention to it.

The operation was planned as a swift police raid, with the capture of the key centers of the country. offensive in divergent directions without strengthening communications and supply routes. Because the need for this could not arise, within the very concept of the rapid absorption of Ukraine with an indifferent and non-resisting population

Unlike the classic German blitzkrieg. Gerasimov's plan was not designed to maintain a high-intensity database, with all the ensuing consequences. Victory should have looked different. With flowers and polite people. Now only a military victory is possible, with the complete destruction of the country. At 100% hostility of the population in the occupied territory. Nobody needs this. Therefore, the operation is being turned into a kind of Strange War, it is more profitable for Russia at the moment

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Santa Fe

The operation was planned as a swift police raid, with the capture of the key centers of the country.

That's all, you can stop at this stupidity. It’s already a no brainer, but it’s not for you that an operation like “Hammer and Anvil” is being carried out. Only the scale is huge. And you analyzed the "rapid capture of key centers."

[Santa Fe]

a hammer and anvil operation

She wasn't meant to be.

With forces of 150-170 thousand people, an offensive was carried out along a front thousand kilometers wide.

This is not a blitzkrieg. The idea was based on the absence of noticeable resistance

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Santa Fe

She wasn't meant to be.

Have you looked at the map at all? Otherwise, the nonsense about "diverging directions" would not have been written. Well, the "plan" was reported to you directly from the General Staff, not otherwise.

Quote: Santa Fe

With forces of 150-170 thousand people, an offensive was carried out along a front thousand kilometers wide.

Many thousands? Or not very many? Or maybe all the same columns bypassing the nodes of resistance and covering the enemy groupings, shackled by the NM LDNR. It is precisely the NM LDNR that is advancing in the form that you attribute to the RF Armed Forces.

Quote: Santa Fe

This is not a blitzkrieg. The idea was based on the absence of noticeable resistance

And he was in your imagination.

[Santa Fe]

Many thousands?

Look at the map. Offensive from all directions - south, east, north, from the side of the border of Belarus ~ 3000 km

Or maybe all the same columns bypassing the nodes of resistance

There could be no knots of resistance in this regard.

We went directly to all objects of interest, the capital, Kharkiv, Chernobyl

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=47GUBdiHOUw

Before this, they fought so hard for Gostomel. According to the plan, this is Prague-68. Capturing the airport in the capital area in the first hours, where the Ilys land with a landing force - with the intention of Kyiv

What happened had nothing to do with the plan. There were "knots of resistance" at every step

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Santa Fe

look at the art. Offensive from all directions - south, east, north, from the side of the border of Belarus ~ 3000 km

Even if you imagine that the red curved line is a front line in the spirit of the First World War, which is not so, then its length is no more than 2 thousand, even taking into account at least 300 km of the LDNR front. But this line is not a front, no matter what you write there.

Quote: Santa Fe

There could be no knots of resistance in this regard.

Because they bypassed even large settlements. Personnel with our equipment in n / a appeared on the fifth or sixth day.

Quote: Santa Fe

We went directly to all objects of interest, the capital, Kharkiv, Chernobyl

Do you relate to reality at all? The Chernobyl nuclear power plant was on the very border, even in the early days they covered Kharkov, but did not enter, no one climbed into Kyiv and does not climb, the notorious Gostomel is 20 km from it.

Quote: Santa Fe

Before this, they fought so hard for Gostomel. According to the plan, this is Prague-68. Capturing the airport in the capital area in the first hours, where the Ilys land with a landing force - with the intention of Kyiv

Considering yourself smarter than others is normal, but considering the General Staff idiots is, you know, an indicator.
With an unsuppressed missile air defense of a hostile country, only idiots can drive heavy transport aircraft even to a perfectly serviceable airfield. Our General Staff is definitely not one of those, no matter what you imagine there. But the Ukrainians fell for this move, and as a result received tank coverage of Kyiv from the north-west on the second day of the operation.

Quote: Santa Fe

What happened had nothing to do with the plan.

The shortcomings that I see are an overestimation of the moods of the civilian population, which is not particularly significant, an underestimation of the moods of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they were fussing with the headquarters of the formations, but it was necessary to hit right away. And in terms of losses - the neglect of the protection of the rear in the first days of the operation.

[Santa Fe]

Even if you imagine that the red curved line

I will answer you like this. In Iraq, on a front a couple of hundred kilometers wide, the Americans operated in a group of 0,5 million soldiers

150-170 thousand from three directions, indicates that the plan was based on the absence of any resistance from the enemy. No knots of resistance, "hammers and anvils"

only idiots can drive heavy transport aircraft even to a perfectly serviceable airfield.

So it was in the Crimea
So it was in Prague in 68.
So it was in Afghanistan

Anywhere where no noticeable resistance was expected

This was how it should have been in Ukraine - this is indicated by an attempt to capture the Gostomel airfield, near the capital, in the first hours

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Santa Fe

So it was in the Crimea
So it was in Prague in 68.
So it was in Afghanistan

In which of these operations did air defense counteract? None.

Quote: Santa Fe

This was how it should have been in Ukraine - this is indicated by an attempt to capture the Gostomel airfield, near the capital, in the first hours

So after all, they captured and held Gostomel, what's the problem then?
So I write that the level of your analytics is Boh.

[the lord]

That is, initially it was not a blitzkrieg? Then I congratulate all of us - we easily plunge into the ass. How do you suppose that part of the operation, which is called denazification, will take place? Especially if you pluck the local sowing and lead them to starvation in the fall and winter? What will you feed them? Will you be able to feed such a crowd of mouths, and even convinced that you are the cause of all their misfortunes? Yes, and demilitarization is some kind of information disorder. The day before yesterday, it seems ours reported that 90 percent of military airfields have been destroyed. And what about the remaining 10? Are they under ours or are they still at the disposal of the Ukrainians? And most importantly, from the other side they are still sure that they are ruining us with their faces in the mud. Even we all are already fed up with the picture of the fronts at Podolyak. Well, cities like Nikolaev and Kharkov were strongly Russian cities, but still did not come under control. Although Podolyak and many agreed that Kharkov and Nikolaev are important logistics centers necessary for the Russian army and should be taken. And sho? (sorry for my little Russian)

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: znavel

That is, initially it was not a blitzkrieg?

You do not know the size of Ukraine? 1100 by 850 km approximately, with a march rate of 200 km / day, it takes 4 days to simply cross it, without maneuvering, along a straight, straight road like an arrow.
Blitzkrieg experts climbed out, at least they knew something from history, at least they knew how to count.

[the lord]

Oh, I really can't count? And you decided to act smart and only found fault with the first sentence? Yes, and about blitzkriegs, but why did we draw maps all the time, where we are already approaching the core of Ukraine. Right now I looked at the review of Onufrienko - this is a friend of Podolyak, and I see a map from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. And there the enemy's territory comes straight to the borders of the Kharkov and Sumy regions. Well, to hell with him with this blitzkrieg, but have something to say about the other 90 percent of my previous comment? Or are we still in jingoistic patriotism?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: znavel

Well, to hell with him with this blitzkrieg, but have something to say about the other 90 percent of my previous comment?

Yes, the same muddy thread as this comment.

[the lord]

Still consider my comment a muddy stream? What he was talking about came true. Ours are leaving ... whatever .... "According to plan." Do you think that someone from the General Staff will be beheaded for such "planning"?

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: znavel

Still consider my comment a muddy thread?

Of course, after all, I didn’t write anything about blitzkrieg, and I didn’t consider it a blitzkrieg, but it was you who considered it, albeit a failed BC. And I didn't think of it as ANYTHING.

[the lord]

Iya mentioned the current blitzkrieg at the beginning, and then expanded on the topic that we are being immersed in the ass - such and such a number and against the whole force and its allies. Those. if this is not all a failed attempt at blitzkrieg, then the General Staff found an unfinished Tukhachevite or bastard storytellers who outplayed quests. Of course, we can’t do anything about it ourselves, but maybe someone from counterintelligence will come here if they themselves still haven’t guessed. Someone gave our baaalshoy a disgrace. Look what they did to people in Bucha, but ours left.

[stels_07]

After Skobeeva and Kiselev enter the vastness of Ukraine, 100% can quickly change to the opposite

[Zefr]

With your comments, you only provoke the Nazis to continue resistance. What for? How long will they last without communications, weapons and reinforcements? Let them surrender better, maybe they won't hang

[qQQQ]

Quote: Nycteaph

The only question is why? I do not think that there is a shortage of personnel or armored vehicles.

In my opinion, it is possible that they took what they had time with the first swoop. As soon as they met resistance, they began to stupidly cut out equipment, primarily artillery and aviation, and drugs. Why now get involved in equivalent battles, when having an overwhelming advantage in artillery and complete air supremacy, you can achieve much greater success, though at the cost of time. The question immediately arises, for whom time matters more, for Russia or for the West with its energy crisis.

[Bad Pig (Ham)]

Yes, everything is simple here - they are trying to save the infrastructure and the population ... they will gouge on THAT side of the Dnieper - and here are their own people with whom to live tomorrow

[spectr]

From a formal point of view, everything is acceptable. We are crushing the power structures of the current government. The crisis provoked by the Americans caused a jump in prices, which was supposed to be reflected in the price of the supplied weapons. And there is still a ruined sowing ahead.

[Babay Atasovich]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

Then someone shouted that it was necessary to take all of Ukraine)) The eastern part would be taken, they didn’t even land in Odessa. A good mine with a bad game. In the meantime, it's been 2 weeks since the operation began.

Don’t worry too much - you can’t shatter in a couple of weeks what has been pumped up, trained, dug in for 8 years! Yes, with minimal loss of drugs and civilians. But headlong to rush to Lvov and leave cockroaches in the rear, well, I don’t know which sofa to fall from Have to be slow and tasteful! Then there will be "both pies and income"

[the lord]

But don’t worry too much - this is just a characteristic feature of those whom we are blizzarding right now. And what did she lead them to? As if we really had tremendous experience in such operations and all of them had a positive result, then yes, there would be no need to worry. But so far everything says that we are all inhabitants of Scythia. And here, without a real fight and blood, the rights to land are not accepted. Ours can successfully ram ukrov from the air as they please. but until our ground forces reduce them to dust, there will be no recognition of victory. Alas...

[sagitovich]

Just think, they are minus, there must be a quorum, everyone's opinion is worthy of consideration and discussion. Not everything goes smoothly. And another 2 and 5 weeks will pass, and we hope we will continue to beat Bandera. And in general, now for the rest of your life is enough.

[polpot]

Close in boilers and boil harder, the more we cook the better, they are not needed alive.

[Jonny_Su]

There are no boilers there yet. Except Mariupol. But this is clearly not what they were aiming for.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Let's repeat your words, but with the opposite mood.
"There is a cauldron in Mariupol. And this is just the beginning. There are quite a lot of cities near the cauldron in Ukraine - the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have enough resources to prevent them."
How can I explain to you ... too much depends on personal perception - do you believe in victory, do you want it?

[Jonny_Su]

Yes, this is an interesting situation when the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have enough resources to prevent them, and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to close them. What is the beginning of this situation - let's see. Recklessly believing in victory is stupidity; in Ukraine, tens of millions not so long ago recklessly believed in their own.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Recklessly believing - yes, stupidity. But to believe this is normal, otherwise why fight at all? Do you have doubts? Do you think that a 35 (40) millionth country can beat a 150 millionth? A small (relatively) but proud army can defeat a country that is much larger in population, and any potential? I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. I don’t even have doubts about victory, and this is not cheers for patriotism, but an objective view of the situation.

[Jonny_Su]

Restrictions are the main issue. Restrictions on Russia: the need to inflict a decisive defeat with conventional weapons in a short time without extensive mobilization and sign a peace treaty. Ukraine does not have any of these restrictions. On the contrary, it is beneficial for them to drag out the war while they drown us with sanctions. And this is a more balanced opinion about the campaign than a head-on comparison of potentials. Compare the potentials in the Vietnamese-Chinese war of the 1970s for example.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I haven't heard of any timing. Maybe you didn't look carefully? Maybe. Tell me - who from the Russian authorities defined any terms?
In any case, they will drown us with sanctions. Although ... as I said, it is worth tasting the American phallus and we will be forgiven - immediately and completely. But I'm somehow better under sanctions.
In Vietnamese-Chinese? And the fleet of the USSR to take into account?

[CTEPX]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

In Vietnamese-Chinese? And the fleet of the USSR to take into account?

It's not just the fleet. There, the consolidated army ended up on Chinese territory))

[Jonny_Su]

Nobody was told anything, but this does not mean that they were forbidden to think and collect information. You believe that there, behind the unfinished, is good, but it is not always. About the fact that "sanctions in any case" - this is of course not true, this is an infantile opinion. Compare the sanctions a month ago, two weeks ago, now and the trend.

[the lord]

"A small (relatively) but proud army can defeat a country that is much larger in terms of population, and any potential?" - yes, you blurted out, unfortunately, without thinking. Exactly such words heard by the Ukrainians can easily be perceived as a signal that we are low-minded and are rushing on the rampage like a fucking bear, which means we will lose. And the case with Vietnam and the USA indicated by your opponent is a classic. And it is precisely that so many who are overly confident in success is frightening. Since it was in this state that most of the invaders were. And yet we are the invaders. And I hope that they will remain and be successful. I do not believe in it (faith kills), but I hope for it.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

That was sarcasm. It was about the Vietnamese-Chinese war.

[Russian]

Interesting approach! It's like a glass: half empty or half full.
According to the facts: the advance has slowed down, only Kherson has been taken from large cities, the rest are either bypassed, or we have been clearing it for days. At this rate, we will denazify the eastern part for more than one month)
There is no systematic approach: why is there still a pro-Ukrainian governor in Kherson? Where is the propaganda of the local population? Or do we think that they themselves denafitsirueyutsya? There is a lot of work to be done, but it has not even begun and even the blueprints are not visible yet.
And the more we delay, the closer the default gets to us, in this state our economy will not last more than a couple of months

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Exactly the same as with a glass. Promotion slowed down? Personally, I did not notice high speeds of progress at all, but be it your way, it slowed down. Will it affect the final result? In general, I would like the war to end by dinner on February 24, but my Wishlist and reality are different things.
Do you know how a systematic approach is solved during a war? Don't like the governor? The governor disappeared - probably ran away ... Denazification? They also fled. And I guarantee you the absolute loyalty of the local population and governors. What do you want from the military? Their job is to kill and win - give it time, people will come and work.
As for the default... I'm still waiting for people in Russia to start shouting that life loses its meaning without chewing gum and lace panties, that without our native west we are nobody and there is no way to call us. Well... it looks like the time has come.

[the lord]

And you do not treat our population so well. The time will come and they will start shouting that they want lace panties. Once they shouted and screamed like that, until now there are a lot of Krasnovites in power, robbing us like suckers. But what kind of missing governor are you writing about here and what kind of Natsiks who fled from denazification? In Kiev, they say that locals are massively entering manure. Although earlier it was full of those who were afraid of them and were ready to fight against them peacefully (the same Shariyevites) And now Shariy broadcasts the performances of the Nikolaev Korean Kim on his channel.
And our main complaint is not with what we started, but with what forces and methods. As Putin once said, we have not lost a single battle in Afghanistan. And it is true. There, ours clashed with the spirits, each time the spirits lost. However, they knocked us out of the country with other methods of counteraction, as well as with interesting trends in our society and among our people. And how could they, bearded barmaley?

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I saw this in Afghanistan - they took me to the alley and there is no spirit (of the governor) ... Do you think the people ran into the alley to resent? No, the people ran, but from the alley. It is not necessary to hang on the army the replacement of governors, the re-education of the population ... the army has other tasks and methods. Do you call Gorbachev a bearded barmaley?

[the lord]

The people may not have run to the lane to be indignant, but at night they came out with weapons to take revenge. So it’s naivete to rejoice in such a victory in advance. By such an action, having convinced the farmer to go to dushmany, so-so success. And Gorbachev is not a bearded barmaley, but a weapon of bearded barmaley. They pulled him over to them, and he did his best for their sake. Is not it?

[Dkuznecov]

I do not want to cast a shadow on the wattle fence,
but, according to my feelings, we are on the verge of some kind of grandiose nix.
And this whole hat was not played by us, but for us.
How I would like to be wrong.
Some strange "what_can't_say_what"...
Operation with elements of round dances, briefings and negotiations.
Some arguments on the go, a whole set:
"they wanted to hit the DPR with the LPR, but we were ahead, in"
further "they wanted to join NATO, but we are on guard",
then "they sculpted the nuclear bonbu on the sly, and how we will hit"
followed by "all sorts of viruses were grown, and we clapped - and captured the laboratories."
What's next?

[Victorio]

Quote: DKuznecov

а we clap and took over the labs.

===
laboratories? from the list of laboratories, one was in Kherson, the rest are out of reach for now

[Dkuznecov]

I realized that they (laboratories) are not visible, but they are.
Darkness them.
With a brood of infected migratory birds,
heard from the box.
Apparently the Siberian Cranes reported to the Supreme
this scheme has already been worked out.

[Victorio]

Quote: DKuznecov

I realized that they (laboratories) are not visible, but they are.
Darkness them.
With a brood of infected migratory birds,
heard from the box.

===
? you wrote: they seized the laboratories. now you write that they are not. completely confused

[Dkuznecov]

Yes, like this.

Exactly thirty.

[Victorio]

https://news24ua.com/spisok-biologicheskih-laboratoriy-ssha-v-ukraine-0

[Dkuznecov]

Yes, and God is with them.
I suggest waiting for the banquet to end.
There is no point in drawing any conclusions now.
No shopping, no sales, no weddings, no divorces.
We are waiting for the end of turbulence.

[avg avg]

And that everyone captured or only found?

[AIK05]

Don't rush things guys, we all want a little bloodshed, that's right, but in order to eradicate this fascist scum that will spoil our blood, it takes time, it's a pity for the young guys because of these trash, but there is no other way, if not now, then it will be too late.

[svoit]

And yet, Chuguev is not such a navel of the earth, so as not to take it right away, most likely there are still not enough forces and means for this. It is not clear how one can manage to allow the entry of APU equipment into cities with almost complete air supremacy? After all, it should be destroyed right on the territory of the military unit, at the latest when their park leaves

[vs45]

Most likely, there are not enough funds for complete air control, perhaps airfields for aviation, although we are talking about a region practically in the underbelly of Russia?! I heard the opinion that aviation mainly works at night ....

[Dilettante grandfather]

The field airfield is deployed within a day or two. Our aviation was mainly created taking into account the ability to work even from unpaved strips. Your conclusions are highly controversial.

[vs45]

A huge problem was revealed in the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine bring equipment into residential areas, the same Azov people put ATGMs right on the roofs of residential buildings and at the same time they remain Heroes of the Nation saving Ukraine and all of Europe from the Russian plague .... and we, Russians, conquerors and destroyers children and women of poor Ukrainian!!! A huge shortage of unmanned vehicles capable of working on single targets in jewelry in tight settings ..... the operation revealed many flaws in the development of the army and weapons ..... plus the stupid idea to climb Kyiv from the first days, which fettered large army forces on this direction instead of throwing them on the complete isolation of Nikolaev and access to Odessa and cutting it off from the mainland !!! Voices in Ukraine are already saying that there are those in the ranks of the Russian army who sympathize with Ukraine and therefore do not tighten the fuses in rockets so that they do not explode ..... there is already a photo from the same Nikolaev with unexploded rockets ..... Listen to the speech of the Governor of the Nikolaev region ..... people are full of pride in their Armed Forces of Ukraine and call on Russian soldiers to surrender ..... these are such sad things ...

[Lech from Android.]

I listened and that ... it is clear that you are from the same camp ... of course you have gloomy affairs ... give up.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Listening to the voices of an enemy who goes to any lengths to delay his defeat is ridiculous. Listening to the European media, point-blank not noticing the obvious, is stupid.

[the lord]

This is not funny, because this is what fuels the desire to resist in the locals. And the fact that this Kim still has the opportunity to broadcast, especially since he still does not spit blood to the garbage he was taken to finish, that's bad

[riwas]

No wonder Zelensky demanded to close the sky. Having an advantage in aviation, Russia could choose to destroy the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions, but the tactics of using a "human shield", primarily in populated areas, and partially insufficient reconnaissance of ambushes, allows them to still hold on. However, step by step, the Ukrainian defense is losing ground.

[Sibguest]

Hello everyone and everyone: a lot of assumptions. I propose to wait: the development of events and information from our (for the slow-witted - Russian) General Staff.
My opinion is (I ask you not to send me comments - I do not intend to discuss): everything was thought out and everything was prepared. But the actions of the Nazi government 404 to use civilians as a shield and distribute small arms to EVERYONE were not foreseen, no PEOPLE in our General Staff expected such cynicism.

[chelowick]

Attention question!!! What difference does it make to me from whose bullet I die ??? And I have two disabled people in the front door.

[monah]

Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й

I do not pretend to be authentic, but from the couch it looks like this:
- The operation had to be carried out suddenly, because not everyone was prepared
- We underestimated the enemy: we thought that they would meet almost with flowers, as a result, half of the residents are opposed to us, half are afraid to show that they sympathize with us
- Lack of personnel: that's why stories emerge with the involvement of conscripts. For such a large-scale operation, 200 thousand people is very little.
- We are trying to protect the population, it greatly slows down the progress

They dragged the cat by the tail for too long, recognized and tried to negotiate with Poroshenko, Zelensky. In the year 14, immediately after the Maidan and the annexation of Crimea, they would really have been greeted with flowers, at least in the southeast. And now it’s too late and strikes on residential areas are not very inspiring to greet with flowers! That's what happened
"They underestimated the enemy: they thought that they would meet almost with flowers, as a result, half of the residents are opposed to us, half are afraid to show that they sympathize with us"

[gsev]

Quote: Sarboz

And who evaluated it? 120 thousand for Afghanistan - how is it?

To control the borders of Afghanistan, at least another 120 were needed.