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The head of Roscosmos: the ISS will fall apart before 2030 in the absence of huge investments

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The head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, commented on the possibility of further operation of the International Space Station in the current conditions. Recall that earlier agreements were reached between the ISS operators to extend the operation of the station.


During a meeting with LDPR deputies, the Director General of Roscosmos said that in the current situation, huge funds are needed to extend the operation of the station until 2030. Without this, the work cannot be effective. According to Dmitry Rogozin, by 2030 the ISS will “fall apart” without these investments.

At the same time, the head of the country's main space agency acknowledged the presence of a serious problem. It consists in the fact that Russia does not have its own orbital station. Recall that at one time the Mir orbital station was deorbited and flooded in the Pacific Ocean, which, according to its technical characteristics, remained operational.

According to Rogozin, if a Russian orbital station is deployed in outer space, its work will be much more active than that of the ISS.

So far, cooperation in space between Russia and the United States continues. However, the situation is developing in such a way that it can be interrupted at any moment. Accordingly, this may lead to the fact that the ISS will either cease to be operated, or its operation will be carried out by each of the countries participating in the project separately. In both cases, the ISS has no special prospects. And if tensions between the Russian Federation and the West continue to grow, then it will hardly be possible to talk about extending the operation of the International Space Station.
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  1. vervolk
    vervolk 10 March 2022 16: 27
    -9
    That's where the road is! we had our own station "Mir" if anyone remembers. Well, if then we were able to launch it and maintain it, then now we can even more so. And they themselves let them jump on the trampoline.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 10 March 2022 16: 34
      +36
      admitted that there was a serious problem. It consists in the fact that Russia does not have its own orbital station.
      With the money that was stolen during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, it was possible to launch more than one station.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 10 March 2022 16: 44
        +16
        and the death star
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 10 March 2022 16: 53
          +2
          Quote: Zaurbek
          and the death star

          There was already one such, it’s a pity they brought it out of orbit.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 10 March 2022 16: 53
            -1
            Yes .. in the Acceptance she was lit up for some reason ......
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 10 March 2022 17: 42
            +2
            I'm talking about "Salute" if that.
      2. slipped
        slipped 10 March 2022 20: 24
        +7
        Quote: NIKNN
        With the money that was stolen during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome


        The money was returned. At the Vostochny cosmodrome, preparations are underway for launching to the Moon in the summer and they are already raising the cable-refueling tower at the construction of the Amur universal launch complex:

    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 10 March 2022 16: 43
      +16
      Well, he was heard, and even understood. Do what he SPECIFICALLY offers? Where are the clearly formulated proposals, with the exact dates, amounts for execution, time of implementation?
      1. Machito
        Machito 10 March 2022 16: 48
        -11
        Quote: Thrifty
        Well, he was heard, and even understood. Do what he SPECIFICALLY offers? Where are the clearly formulated proposals, with the exact dates, amounts for execution, time of implementation?

        Rogozin proposes to build starships, like Efremov in the Andromeda Nebula.
        I propose to throw mattress covers from the ISS into outer space. laughing lol wassat good
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 10 March 2022 17: 15
          -5
          Quote: Bearded
          I propose to throw mattress covers from the ISS into outer space.

          Why strain, bend hatches, break pushing out? It's easier to let them go to work in outer space, but not let them go back - "Let him fly!"
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 10 March 2022 17: 37
            +1
            Quote: Starover_Z
            Why strain, bend hatches, break pushing out? It's easier to let them go to work in outer space, but not let them go back - "Let him fly!"

            Much easier and more humane to drill a hole in their segment.
            1. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 10 March 2022 18: 39
              0
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              Much easier and more humane to drill a hole in their segment.

              At the space station, technological cables and hoses pass through hatches, unlike submarines. So it will not be possible to seal a separate block on the move, alas.
              1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke 10 March 2022 23: 08
                +1
                Quote: Starover_Z
                At the space station, technological cables and hoses pass through hatches, unlike submarines. So it will not be possible to seal a separate block on the move, alas.

                "Openings" are airtight hatches.
                All cable connections go along their perimeter and through sealed connectors such as RMG and the like. hi
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                2. Starover_Z
                  Starover_Z 11 March 2022 01: 01
                  0
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  "Openings" are airtight hatches.
                  All cable connections go along their perimeter and through sealed connectors such as RMG and the like.

                  It looks like it is, but there is also this

                  [/ Quote]
                  It seems to be located in the Russian part of the ISS. I took the picture from
                  [quote] 360-degree virtual tour of the International Space Station. by Google Arts & Culture. From the article at
                  https://manulik.com/nauka-i-obrazovanie/google-sozdal-virtualnyj-tur-na-mks/ -
                  and it is interesting to walk around the ISS. good
            2. igorbrsv
              igorbrsv 10 March 2022 21: 34
              0
              . Much easier and more humane to drill a hole in their segment.

              They are already running to us in a "push", but this is generally "registered"
              1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke 10 March 2022 23: 21
                0
                Quote: igorbrsv
                They are already running to us in a "push", but this is generally "registered"

                Here it is not. They will be "registered" in diapers sticking out in spacesuits in their hermetically cut-off sector. They can make a horror movie. good
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 10 March 2022 16: 53
        +11
        Quote: Thrifty
        Well, he was heard, and even understood. Do what he SPECIFICALLY offers? Where are the clearly formulated proposals, with the exact dates, amounts for execution, time of implementation?

        He can not. He was not authorized. Just troll like a journalist easily.
        1. Alemax
          Alemax 10 March 2022 18: 43
          0
          Well, why can't it? VanWeb was removed from the table.
      3. Alien From
        Alien From 10 March 2022 18: 14
        +2
        This one (cattail) offers a trampoline. What else is he unable to do?
      4. Charik
        Charik 10 March 2022 18: 18
        0
        everything is in verse
      5. Alf
        Alf 10 March 2022 20: 29
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        Where are the clearly formulated proposals, with the exact dates, amounts for execution, time of implementation?

        And, most importantly, RESPONSIBLE?
    3. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 10 March 2022 16: 47
      +13
      Quote: vervolk
      we had our own station "Mir" if anyone remembers.

      You apparently forgot that the Mir station was created by the USSR, and not the Russian Federation, he treated his space program incomparably more seriously than the Russian Federation and invested money there by orders of magnitude more than the Russian Federation.
      Quote: vervolk
      And they themselves let them jump on the trampoline.

      Isn't it funny yourself? Today they overtook us in space, it's stupid not to notice it.
      1. Babay Atasovich
        Babay Atasovich 10 March 2022 18: 00
        -2
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Today they overtook us in space, it's stupid not to notice it.

        laughing They can’t put their super aircraft carrier into operation in any way, they are already repairing parts from a decommissioned one. But THEY are the leaders in aircraft carrier building! ..... although .. They pissed off not only the technology of flying to the moon, but they did not save the devices themselves in museums. laughing yes
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 10 March 2022 18: 07
          -4
          Quote: Babay Atasovich
          They pissed off not only the technology of flying to the moon, but they didn’t save the devices themselves in museums

          However, all this did not prevent them from becoming world leaders in the space industry, and the Chinese came in second place. And the Russian Federation mediocrely squanders the Soviet backlog.
          1. Alien From
            Alien From 10 March 2022 18: 18
            0
            On DR Gagarin, (yesterday) in the city of the same name there was only an overlap of the central square for an hour ...... then we think for ourselves ((
            1. Qas
              Qas 12 March 2022 15: 51
              -1
              Well, what should we come up with ourselves? The whole area was blocked, and what????
          2. Charik
            Charik 10 March 2022 18: 20
            -3
            oh well, now we will cooperate with Zimbabwe and that’s it, Venus is ours
          3. Babay Atasovich
            Babay Atasovich 10 March 2022 19: 51
            +3
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            However, all this did not prevent them from becoming world leaders in the space industry.

            We'll see in a couple of years. on their flights laughing They also rubbed half a century ago about the GIANT step of the USA into space !!! They have already installed Super York along the way on Mars yes
          4. Siberian54
            Siberian54 12 March 2022 09: 23
            +1
            There is such a fashionable word "sanctions", and so most of the US bans on spacecraft launches have been preserved since the times of the USSR, and these restrictions are pushing our commercial space to the sidelines. And once again, "mask-lovers" -We have land-based spaceports and to return the "reusable stage" we will need much more fuel than theirs boarding sea barges , the offshore platform is much cheaper to distill to the landing point than to make a horizontal stage maneuver to enter a permanent landing site.
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 12 March 2022 09: 51
              -1
              [quote = Siberian54] There is such a fashionable word "sanctions", and so most of the US bans on spacecraft launches from the time of the USSR have been preserved and these restrictions are pushing our commercial space to the sidelines. [/ quote]
              Do you know the saying about what hinders a bad dancer? No sanctions prevented the USSR from launching the first satellite, the first man into space, etc. And today, ..... I believe that soon even the most drummed jingoistic patriot will find out the true price of our "import-substituting" economy, will feel and feel this "import substitution" and "getting up off his knees" in his own skin.
              [quote = Siberian54] And once again "mask-lovers" ...... / quote]
              This is generally a reproach of "masco-love" to the wrong address.)))))
      2. Hagen
        Hagen 11 March 2022 06: 42
        0
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        You apparently forgot that the Mir station was created by the USSR, and not the Russian Federation, he treated his space program incomparably more seriously than the Russian Federation and invested money there by orders of magnitude more than the Russian Federation.

        Well, yes. The USSR invested so well in space that it undermined the economy and eventually collapsed from the fact that no one was able to present a really effective program for balancing it. I would not oppose the USSR against the Russian Federation at all, because one entity grew out of the other. Perhaps the USSR financed space on a priority basis, but it launched the industrial potential of group B, agriculture became discouraged and the country stumbled on them .... And the eternal opposition to the united West does not pass without a trace. It is foolish to deny its inhibitory effect on our movement through life. Politics is the art of the possible. Circumstances change, opportunities change. Today it is possible only like this, unfortunately or fortunately, it is difficult to say. One thing is clear, in all industries you can try to lead only with a population of around 500 million people. A more or less tolerable autarchy requires at least 300 million (with the current method of production). So the backlog in some areas is inevitable. Trying to pull in all directions will lead to total failure.
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 11 March 2022 13: 31
          -1
          Quote: Hagen
          Well, yes. The USSR invested so well in space that it undermined the economy ........

          Yeah, yeah, I’ve been hearing all this liberal vomit since the 90s from all sorts of Chubais-Gaidars, I really hope that soon all these liberals will get their heads torn off.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 11 March 2022 14: 10
            -1
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            I have been hearing all this liberal vomit since the 90s from all sorts of Chubais-Gaidars

            This is the difference. You only hear, but I lived in those days, and even at a conscious age. And I fully felt what it was like to queue for meat on coupons and how long one had to stand in line to buy some kind of refrigerator or cupboard (1979-81). I fully understood why dad and mom, who are raising three children, cannot go on vacation to Sochi with the whole family, and the summer recovery of children, at best, took place in a village in the black earth zone of Russia. Grandfather, a collective farmer, said that they sowed 9 centners of wheat per hectare, and harvested 13-14 from it, rarely 17 ... I would have noticed that the neighbors also have all the "vomit", which does not coincide with their idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXblife . Do you take an example from them? wassat
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            I really hope that soon all these liberals will have their heads torn off.

            If everyone like me rips off the "heads", who will you stay with? The question, of course, is rhetorical. It is unlikely that you are capable of something radical, although manners are akin to "Azov".
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 11 March 2022 14: 33
              0
              Quote: Hagen
              This is the difference. You only hear, but I lived in those days, and even at a conscious age

              Did you carefully read what you quoted? I came from the army in 1990 and I remember very well how we were paid with mixers at the plant, and then they stopped altogether.
              Quote: Hagen
              Grandfather, a collective farmer, said that they sowed 9 centners per hectare, and collected 13-14 from it ...

              But I know something else. Read, this is my wife's grandfather https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kravchenko_Semyon_Evdokimovich and I know well how they lived on his collective farm.
              Quote: Hagen
              I fully understood why dad and mom, who are raising three children, cannot go on vacation to Sochi with the whole family, and the children's summer recovery took place in a village in the black earth zone of Russia.

              My family, with two children, every year flew on vacation from Navoi to Armavir, through Moscow, from Armavir every year I went to a pioneer camp in Anapa. And with children's camps, there were certainly no problems anywhere.

              Quote: Hagen
              And I fully felt what it was like to queue for meat on coupons and how long one had to stand in line to buy some kind of refrigerator or cupboard (1979-81).

              Yes, it was foolish to deny it. But the USSR died not because of economic problems, but because of the betrayal of the party nomenklatura.
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 11 March 2022 14: 45
                0
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                But the USSR died not because of economic problems, but because of the betrayal of the party nomenklatura.

                Everything starts with the economy and ends with it... Read Marx. Deeper than him, no one painted the theory of changing the REF.
                1. alekseykabanets
                  alekseykabanets 11 March 2022 14: 54
                  -1
                  Quote: Hagen
                  Everything starts with the economy and ends with it... Read Marx. Deeper than him, no one painted the theory of changing the REF.

                  Nobody is arguing here. It's just that even under Brezhnev they began to grow guild workers. and later plundered public property into their own pockets. A truly Socialist economy was only under Stalin, you can read the tax code of 1936.
                  Quote: Hagen
                  If everyone like me, tear off the "heads", with whom will you stay?

                  Are you responsible for the collapse of the USSR? How much public property have you stuffed into your pockets?
      3. Disant
        Disant 11 March 2022 10: 01
        -2
        Today they overtook us in space, it's stupid not to notice it.

        of course overtaken:
        the Artemis program - the other day they posted a new price tag for themselves - 4 billion dollars one launch out of dozens planned in the program (instead of one billion).
        spooled already in Artemis, more than a dozen billion. In short, they don’t fly anywhere for the lunar land along the way. and money spent.
        What do we do? catching up?
    4. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 10 March 2022 16: 49
      +15
      Maybe I'm stupid, but who's to say what the new station will give us, besides image and authority? Wouldn't it be better to increase the orbital constellation of satellites with this money and start developing new directions in space? IMHO, at these stations everything that needs to be explored has already been explored and again build another garage in orbit .... request
      1. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 10 March 2022 19: 13
        +11
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Maybe I'm stupid, but who's to say what the new station will give us, besides image and authority?


        Preservation of manned cosmonautics in Russia, i.e. if our astronauts have nowhere to fly, then it will be possible to put an end to the PC and the entire industry as a whole .... and to revive it in a new way, it will cost a lot of money, not to mention time, and here we can not even talk about years, and about decades, given our realities ..... regarding research, there is still a lot to explore, for example: hydroponics, research in the field of radiation protection (if the station is higher than the current orbit of the ISS), there may be artificial gravity, etc. .d. there can be many topics and directions, and all this will come in handy ... if we plan to build manned stations on the Moon and Mars in the future, the main thing is that there is funding and interest from the state in this topic.
      2. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 10 March 2022 21: 40
        0
        Space programs cannot be reduced, then we will bite our elbows. Before, no one needed ice either, but now there it is. And we invested in icebreakers and did not lose
    5. lisiy prapor
      lisiy prapor 10 March 2022 17: 05
      +5
      Quote: vervolk
      we had our own station "Mir" if anyone remembers. Well, if then we were able to launch it and maintain it, then now we can even more so.

      Not "we" but the USSR, all that "we" can do is Clipper and Federation. The political system is like this - grab it while it grabs it.
      1. Disant
        Disant 11 March 2022 10: 41
        -1
        Not "we" but the USSR, all that "we" can do is "Clipper" and "Federation"

        new digital Unions-progresses on a single-turn scheme with control docking in orbit from earth
        Angara with new productions
        a new spaceport with a city and living people
        money allocated for the remaining 4 years in advance, just take it and do it
        also in the military commissar Sarmat, Vanguard, Yars
        new constellations of satellites
        nuclear tug on the way - the topic is moving
        you slept for 30 years or what?
        .
        Why do you need a federation? Unions are doing great.
        1. lisiy prapor
          lisiy prapor 11 March 2022 10: 55
          0
          Quote: Disant
          new digital Soyuz-progresses on a single-turn scheme with control of docking in orbit from the Earth
          Angara with new productions
          a new spaceport with a city and living people
          money allocated for the remaining 4 years in advance, just take it and do it
          also in the military commissar Sarmat, Vanguard, Yars
          new constellations of satellites
          nuclear tug on the way - the topic is moving
          you slept for 30 years or what?

          Everything that you have listed so colorfully and emotionally, by and large, are only plans. And it seems to me (forgive me, I have been living in "Russia free from communists" for quite a long time) that these plans are aimed exclusively at "development of the budget"
          1. Disant
            Disant 11 March 2022 12: 55
            0
            Everything that you have listed so colorfully and emotionally, by and large, are only plans.

            no emotions and plans - everything is in iron.
            The cosmodrome has been built and will grow with new sites on schedule, there are no shifts, launches are on schedule.
            The tug is being actively developed, design work and work "in hardware" are going on in parallel - performance characteristics are constantly growing, there are no insurmountable difficulties that forced the Americans to close their program 20 years ago
            money - in stock, allocated, you can feel with your eyes on the accounts.
            space constellations are in the air and will grow according to the FKP schedule.
            precise dockings with control from the ground are being carried out.
            Unions - they bake one after another, above in the comments slipped reported to you the current situation directly from the assembly shop and attached a photo
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 10 March 2022 16: 31
    +10
    We must finally understand any cooperation with the Anglo-Saxons is politicized and is a risky act ... due to possible sanctions for any reason ... you cannot have serious business with the Americans ... there is always a risk of being deceived by them.
    Our gold and foreign exchange reserves invested in the United States are frozen and there is a risk that these crooks will appropriate them, as was done with Venezuela and Afghanistan.
    The same is happening with the ISS, the Americans will pull all the leading technologies out of us and kick us out the door.
    It is necessary to develop in the space industry on our own ... you can even attract the Chinese ... but by no means the United States.
    1. prior
      prior 10 March 2022 16: 42
      -7
      The best thing to do with the ISS is to dump it in the United States before we are kicked out of this project, like everyone else.
      1. akulych
        akulych 10 March 2022 16: 55
        +5
        It will be difficult to do this, given that, according to the "Memorandum of Understanding", the main control center for the ISS is located at the Lyndon Johnson Space Center in Texas.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 10 March 2022 17: 24
          -4
          Yes, and the United States has hundreds of anti-space missiles. They will evacuate their astronauts on the Dragon and launch a couple. The ISS is a big target, it will be difficult to miss. But the attempted orbital bombing of the United States will clearly provoke a military response.
          1. Alemax
            Alemax 10 March 2022 18: 45
            +2
            And you don't have to do anything. Just dump along with the orbit correction thrusters. Then there are their problems.
        2. Maikcg
          Maikcg 10 March 2022 18: 05
          +2
          Orbit correction is carried out by Unions and Progresses. Can be done by hand.
          1. shahor
            shahor 10 March 2022 19: 21
            -2
            Quote: MaikCG
            Orbit correction is carried out by Unions and Progresses.

            Rogozin also thought so ... After that, without noise and dust, the American truck moved the station, removing all Olegovich's fears. They can even without us ... move.
            1. Maikcg
              Maikcg 11 March 2022 23: 00
              0
              If you peer into a piece of fat for a long time, then the fat will flow out of you. (c) Nietzsche
    2. akulych
      akulych 10 March 2022 16: 56
      +19
      Do the Chinese need to be "attracted"? Today they have a complete set of their own - carriers for various tasks, manned and cargo ships, their own manned station. What is Russia to them?
    3. Ros 56
      Ros 56 10 March 2022 17: 53
      0
      Today I listened to the conclusions about the results of our cooperation with the West, apparently ours have come to their senses, enlightenment in the brains is coming. Applies to all areas of activity.
    4. Charik
      Charik 10 March 2022 18: 29
      -1
      with Venezuela and Afghanistan, and also with Libya-Syria-Iraq-Iran, and now we have been squashed, I would like to see if the Americans can throw China out of mayhem.
  3. Maks1995
    Maks1995 10 March 2022 16: 31
    +1
    "According to Rogozin, if a Russian orbital station is deployed in outer space, its work will be much more active than that of the ISS."
    Why did it happen??? Lying?
    The Americans paid part of the ISS, that is, we did not have to spend money on the maintenance of the part.

    It will take a lot of resources and money to launch a completely new station, due to which it will “come out more actively” if a lot of money is spent on the launch ???
    1. akulych
      akulych 10 March 2022 16: 52
      +15
      Yes, there is not a part, there is the lion's share. Annual expenses for the ISS by participants:
      United States - $4 billion
      EU - about $1 billion
      Russia - 0,6 billion dollars.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 10 March 2022 16: 56
        0
        There you can count in different ways ...... our spending in "wooden" .... is no longer $ 0,6 billion, but 0,3 billion has become. And yes, it's better together. Only the Russian Federation carries Americans outside of politics ..... and the Americans, just a little, immediately put on STOP.
        1. akulych
          akulych 10 March 2022 16: 58
          +5
          Yes, in fact, and does not carry. After Crew Dragon, the Yankees completely turned up their noses.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 10 March 2022 16: 59
            0
            I gave you for comparison ...... about "outside politics" and scientific friendship.
            1. akulych
              akulych 10 March 2022 17: 00
              0
              and, in this sense, yes, I agree.
        2. akulych
          akulych 10 March 2022 17: 02
          +2
          And I'm sorry, but IMHO you think wrong. It is not Russia's dollar spending that has decreased, it is the ruble that has increased.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 10 March 2022 17: 03
            +2
            Well, the cost of a rocket, a cosmodrome, a launch ..... in rubles? She has changed?
            1. akulych
              akulych 10 March 2022 17: 04
              +3
              Yes, you're right, I sporol garbage, sorry.
            2. Maikcg
              Maikcg 12 March 2022 01: 44
              0
              Actually, it has changed. Anyway. Here, against the background of the current environmental situation, even the price of milk from a neighboring village has grown, and what can I say about space, along the chain from the very bottom to the very top of high-tech. wink
  4. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 10 March 2022 16: 33
    +3
    Well, he described the situation. What does it offer?
    1. Adrey
      Adrey 10 March 2022 16: 38
      +3
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      Well, he described the situation. What does it offer?

      Good afternoon. In the light of recent events, he does the right thing by not offering anything. So far, apart from military space, we will have nothing. God forbid - "bye".
    2. Bradley
      Bradley 10 March 2022 16: 42
      +6
      Well, he described the situation. What does it offer?

      Oh, what did he just not promise / offer. Isaac Asimov smokes on the sidelines. laughing
    3. Charik
      Charik 10 March 2022 18: 33
      +1
      Saw Shura Saw
    4. slipped
      slipped 10 March 2022 19: 58
      +4
      Well, what does he suggest - for now we are flying to the ISS until 2024. The astronauts are preparing for launch in full in a week, the ship has already docked with the transfer compartment:



      And after 2024, we will start withdrawing ROSS. It has been written about here many times. The first station module in production.
  5. sen
    sen 10 March 2022 16: 34
    +1
    According to Rogozin, if a Russian orbital station is deployed in outer space, its work will be much more active than that of the ISS.

    Judging by the reports, it will be more high-altitude, away from space debris, and most of the time it will work autonomously.
    1. lisiy prapor
      lisiy prapor 10 March 2022 17: 14
      +1
      Quote: sen
      Judging by the reports, it will be more high-altitude, away from space debris, and most of the time it will work autonomously.

      Yeah, and to any point in the galaxy, fit - in 5 seconds. But you need a gravipapa. To report that to the master.
      1. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 10 March 2022 18: 00
        +1
        A gravitap without CC is like an internal combustion engine without pistons.
    2. slipped
      slipped 10 March 2022 20: 00
      +3
      Quote: sen
      Judging by the messages, it will be more high-rise,


      The new station will be high-latitude, polar.
  6. evgen1221
    evgen1221 10 March 2022 16: 39
    -1
    After completing the programs, carefully lower it to the United States, and say that it was she who fired on herself and left orbit.
    1. Retvizan1974
      Retvizan1974 10 March 2022 16: 45
      0
      Absolutely correct decision! (And doable, and no one will dig in - they still have Russia to blame all around! ...)
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 March 2022 17: 05
      -2
      Quote: evgen1221
      After completing the programs, carefully lower it to the United States, and say that it was she who fired on herself and left orbit.

      If ours leave from there, the Yankees themselves will disable it. Holes will be drilled, latrines will be closed, "Progress" will no longer correct the orbit ...
    3. akulych
      akulych 10 March 2022 17: 06
      +3
      It remains to take control of the ISS, and now it is at the Lyndon Johnson Space Center in Texas.
  7. Nexcom
    Nexcom 10 March 2022 16: 48
    +12
    Meanwhile, all the "stars" dumped from Russia on the sly: Pugacheva, Leontiev, Sobchak, Zemfira, Khamatova, .....

    "Homeland is where the ass is warm .." (c) Taxi driver from the movie Brother 2.

    That's the whole price of their "patriotism". Low social people, fuck them...
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 17: 16
      +12
      all the "stars" dumped from Russia
      These are stars with the letter "P" laughing
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 10 March 2022 17: 19
        +7
        It was disgusting to read about it - especially when I remember how they moaned about their experiences for Russia, for the people ... Sufferers. Especially Sobchak.

        Let them roll. You correctly described them.

        PS Sorry for the offtopic - I could not stand it ....
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 17: 20
          +6
          Immigrant weddings will be held in taverns of Brighton Beach yes In the best case, they can launch a tomato there for "plywood" wassat .
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 10 March 2022 17: 30
          +10
          Yes, and X with them. I keep remembering Hvorostovsky, the Kingdom of Heaven for the peasant. Although he lived in Switzerland, he did not pour dirt on his homeland, he helped, he was proud. By the way, Pugacheva's husband (or son?) Maksyusha Galkin - and after all, his dad was a colonel general, head of the main armored department. And he raised such a "son".
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 10 March 2022 17: 46
            +9
            Quote: Okolotochny
            I remember Hvorostovsky

            Alex, hi Tellingly, now many are checked for "lice" (although it is possible without quotes). yes Netrebko and Gergiev had the opportunity to score and stay over the hill, calmly fulfilling contracts. But when they were approached with an ultimatum, demanding to publicly dissociate themselves from the policy of the Russian Federation, both sent Euro-ghouls and, breaking the contracts, returned home to St. Petersburg. They had a contract with the Munich Opera (Gergiev is the chief conductor), and Netrebko also had a contract with La Scala - on the side, they didn’t sell out. good
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 10 March 2022 17: 53
              +8
              Sash, there is a lot of pressure on Ovechkin now, the family has been terrorized. He's holding on for now. Although, what does he have to say that he is "with Ukraine" and that's it, he is in kings. No, he bends his line, but carefully, but he does not renounce his homeland. By the way, Ilya Kovalchuk started selling American real estate, he also does not want to play jackals in a pack.
              Gergiev will not be forgiven for anyone - he has family ties with South Ossetia. If he says something, then his relatives will not forgive him, and he is not like that either.
              Our netrebko!!! Kuban!!!
    2. Crete 25
      Crete 25 10 March 2022 17: 28
      0
      And Khamatova???
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 10 March 2022 17: 31
        +2
        Khamatova dumped in the Baltic States, she has real estate there. Litvinova, Dzhigan - too.

        The actress, who opposed the special operation, moved to permanent residence in Latvia. A few years ago, Khamatova bought a property 100 kilometers from Riga and, according to local laws, received a residence permit.

        Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/27374/4556378/
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 10 March 2022 17: 47
      +9
      Quote: Nexcom
      Meanwhile, all the "stars" dumped from Russia on the sly: Pugacheva, Leontiev, Sobchak, Zemfira, Khamatova, ....

      eh, it would be nice to deprive the bastards who had shrunk of Russian citizenship ...
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 10 March 2022 17: 50
        +3
        A very sound idea! Keep plus.

        Only they will not deprive them ... They will sit there and again appear "to sing with their mouths" and "to take care of Russia and the people."
        Well, or not to sing, but tryndet about how to behave correctly in Russia so that the West "accepts" us.

        From the unforgettable - about them.

        "In the morning I smear a sandwich -
        Immediately thought: What about the people?
        And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
        And the compote does not pour into the mouth ... "(c)

        then forgot
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 10 March 2022 22: 54
          0
          Quote: Nexcom
          They will sit there and again appear "to sing with their mouths" and "to take care of Russia and the people"

    4. Charik
      Charik 10 March 2022 18: 41
      +3
      The question is, how?
  8. akulych
    akulych 10 March 2022 16: 49
    +5
    Uh-huh, that is, this is how they begin to gently prepare citizens for the termination of the manned program. They say the ISS is falling apart, for the sake of the safety of the crews, we will ... We will build our own ... Maybe ... Someday ... Ok.
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 10 March 2022 16: 55
      -8
      this is how they begin to gently prepare citizens for the termination of the manned program

      small clarification - US and EU citizens
      1. akulych
        akulych 10 March 2022 16: 59
        +10
        A little clarification - EU and US citizens will fly the Crew Dragon on LOP-G. And Dmitry Olegovich will write downhole notes on Twitter. Oh hell, you can't because Twitter has been blocked... :)))))))
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 10 March 2022 17: 11
          -5
          Quote: akulych
          A little clarification - EU and US citizens will fly the Crew Dragon on LOP-G

          Who will be responsible for the repair and maintenance? Ours will not be, and these citizens' hands are growing from the wrong place, and in our technology they have not dug an ear. They couldn't even repair their latrine without our help. They can only drill holes. And the further you go, the more effort it will take. The equipment is getting old.
          1. akulych
            akulych 10 March 2022 17: 12
            +5
            Uuuuu, how neglected everything is, if, of course, it is serious, and not just a troll. laughing
          2. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 10 March 2022 17: 26
            +4
            They did not repair the latrine themselves, because our cosmonauts are required by contract to do this. Plumbers are paid.
            According to RBC, the Russian Space Corporation (RKK) Energia has received new orders from the American space agency NASA as part of a contract for the maintenance and repair of the toilet on the American segment of the ISS, according to the annual report of the corporation.

            And the astronauts could continue to do science in their science modules while the Russians clean the toilets, but the science module in Russia was finally brought only at the very end of the ISS, but not yet put into operation.
            1. slipped
              slipped 10 March 2022 20: 09
              +4
              Quote: BlackMokona
              The work of plumbers


              Lying is bad. Their new American latrine at the station, which breaks again, they clean themselves.

              Quote: BlackMokona
              And the astronauts could continue to do science in their science modules


              Science on the ISS does not depend on the number of scientific modules, of which, by the way, there are three on the ISS RS - Poisk, Rassvet and Nauka. It depends on the number of experiments carried out in orbit. Our astronauts have quite a lot of them. And in a week the number of our cosmonauts will increase to three.

          3. shahor
            shahor 10 March 2022 19: 38
            0
            Quote: Piramidon
            and in our technology they didn’t dig an ear. They couldn't even repair their latrine without our help.

            Here is the solution for you! They will pay, and we will reprofil the training center into a training center for space plumbers. Let's sign a contract with the German Grohe-and-replacement of space faucets and toilet bowls! According to your specification! Toilet bowls are not yet under sanctions? Or already...
        2. JonnyT
          JonnyT 11 March 2022 11: 16
          0
          EU and US citizens will fly Crew Dragon on LOP-G


          Where to fly then? To a station that doesn't exist in reality?
          Yes, and the ship has not yet been brought to mind, I'm not talking about life support systems and spacesuits.

          Are you ready to fly in such a situation? Or are you already flying on the couch on the Internet not only to the moon, but also to Mars (what if you landed in the sun)
  9. S. Viktorovich
    S. Viktorovich 10 March 2022 16: 52
    +3
    Russia does not have a station, but its own thoughts and programs. Rogozin and other Chubais are budget eaters with no obvious meaning.
    1. slipped
      slipped 10 March 2022 20: 11
      +2
      Quote: S. Viktorovich
      Russia does not have a station, but its own thoughts and programs.


      Wrong. Russia now has stations and a federal space program.
  10. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 10 March 2022 16: 52
    -1
    Two of our modules were docked to the current-current ISS ....
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 March 2022 17: 12
      0
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Two of our modules were docked to the current-current ISS ....

      What's stopping you from undocking?
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 10 March 2022 17: 27
        -1
        What to them without the rest of the station cover and fast.
    2. Elephant
      Elephant 10 March 2022 17: 43
      -2
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Two of our modules were docked to the current-current ISS ....

      Unfortunately, we have such a strategy in everything, we don’t see beyond our nose, we can’t calculate in advance
    3. slipped
      slipped 10 March 2022 20: 14
      +2
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Two of our modules were docked to the current-current ISS ....


      Six of our modules, which are part of the ISS RS, are docked to the ISS: Zarya, Zvezda, Rassvet, Poisk, Nauka, Prichal. Two-thirds of the internal storage volumes of the Zarya module belong to the Americans, the rest of the internal volume is ours.
  11. A_Mazkov
    A_Mazkov 10 March 2022 16: 58
    0
    And we dream not roar of the spaceport
    There is a prophetic essence in the grass near the house...
  12. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 10 March 2022 17: 08
    +1
    Science is a useful thing. The war is on. Let's deal with earthly matters for now.
  13. saygon66
    saygon66 10 March 2022 17: 15
    +3
    Well, give money to Rogozin! laughing
  14. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 10 March 2022 17: 20
    +3
    We shouldn't be worried about what's going on with the ISS! We should be concerned about the Russian segment, what are the prospects for our own station, what are the developments and production and technical capabilities.
  15. GREG68
    GREG68 10 March 2022 17: 20
    +3
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    Two of our modules were docked to the current-current ISS ....

    If memory serves, one. Science, it's called. And they began to assemble it only in 1995, they planned to launch it into orbit in 2007. Well, they were a little delayed, launched in 2021, just a little bit)) At this rate, we will build the station for 100 years !!!
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 10 March 2022 17: 28
      +1
      Withdrawn but not yet included in the work, they planned to do this for more than six months. But then the actors and stuff came in, and the case was postponed.
      1. slipped
        slipped 10 March 2022 20: 20
        0
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Withdrawn but not yet included in the work, they planned to do this for more than six months. But then the actors and stuff came in, and the case was postponed.


        It's been up and running for a long time. In early January, a local network was installed there. With the next truck, an industrial 3-D printer will be delivered there to print materials in microgravity.
    2. slipped
      slipped 10 March 2022 20: 17
      +2
      Quote: GREG68
      If memory serves, one.


      Changes. Three scientific modules in the ISS RS - MIM-1, MIM-2, Nauka.
  16. Dikson
    Dikson 10 March 2022 18: 00
    +2
    And why didn’t he promise anything about the flight to the moon? What was it?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 10 March 2022 20: 05
      +1
      Quote: Dikson
      What was it?

      He wants dollars.
    2. slipped
      slipped 10 March 2022 20: 20
      +2
      Quote: Dikson
      And why didn’t he promise anything about the flight to the moon? What was it?


      Luna-25 flies to the Moon in the summer.
  17. fa2998
    fa2998 10 March 2022 18: 02
    +1
    Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
    Well, he described the situation. What does it offer?

    Well, give the orphan 2-3 trillion for consolation. We will steal them away, and we will tell you fairy tales! lol
  18. Charik
    Charik 10 March 2022 18: 12
    0
    Interestingly, until 2030, another head of RosCosmos will be appointed?
  19. Charik
    Charik 10 March 2022 18: 15
    +1
    huge funds are needed - Without this, the work cannot be effective - the ISS will “fall apart” without these investments, everything is clear with Rogozin, the West blocked the money.
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 10 March 2022 18: 16
    0
    The head of Roscosmos: the ISS will fall apart before 2030 in the absence of huge investments
    We must do our own, if necessary.
    1. LAWNER
      LAWNER 10 March 2022 19: 06
      0
      It seems like an agreement on the joint use of the ISS until 2024. We have 5 segments there. They will be the basis for the Russian station. Delivery of another 4 ex is planned. And without investments, here I agree with Ragozin, this is for the Kirdyk project. for its assembly and maintenance reached $ 160 billion ... Such an amount can be pulled without damage to the economy, only by the whole world. Although we'll see what happens in two years.
      Even the costs of a large hadron calider are incomparably lower .. And there all countries participated.
  21. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 10 March 2022 18: 51
    0
    Is Rogozin generally in his place?
  22. Pavel57
    Pavel57 10 March 2022 19: 10
    -1
    Undock your segment, then all by yourself.
  23. Rostislav
    Rostislav 10 March 2022 19: 33
    +3
    Do what he SPECIFICALLY suggests?
    To rivet slogans and chatter with one's tongue .. He does not know how to do anything else.
  24. DienBienPhu
    DienBienPhu 10 March 2022 20: 11
    0
    Space cooperation with China
  25. evgen1221
    evgen1221 10 March 2022 20: 23
    +1
    Rogozin turns out to be the highest paid songwriter and storyteller, since he knocks out such money for his projects))).
  26. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 10 March 2022 21: 38
    0
    Well, if memory serves, then Russian modules can exist separately. They can accept progress and change orbits. Only Russian modules have descent vehicles. Dock the fucking amers and let them fly forever. And build our station in orbit.
  27. GREG68
    GREG68 10 March 2022 21: 50
    0
    Quote: slipped
    Quote: GREG68
    If memory serves, one.


    Changes. Three scientific modules in the ISS RS - MIM-1, MIM-2, Nauka.

    It meant how many modules were docked recently. Recently, one Science module was docked.
  28. Mini Mokik
    Mini Mokik 11 March 2022 00: 40
    0
    Quote: NIKNN
    admitted that there was a serious problem. It consists in the fact that Russia does not have its own orbital station.
    With the money that was stolen during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, it was possible to launch more than one station.


    The only good news is that those who robbed Russian projects are now shaking for their hard-earned money in Western accounts.
  29. 28st region
    28st region 11 March 2022 12: 40
    +1
    Knows what he's talking about. He ruined Roskosmos with billions of investments.
  30. amr
    amr 11 March 2022 13: 15
    -1
    Why, when Rogozin says something, do I always feel Spanish shame?
  31. Kir shadrin
    Kir shadrin 11 March 2022 13: 18
    0
    orbital station "Mir", which, according to its technical characteristics, remained operational

    At the time of the flood, the World was operational purely conditionally