Military Review

The authorities of Ukraine removed the responsibility from citizens for the use of weapons during martial law

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An adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Anton Gerashchenko, who either left his post or returned again, published a note stating that Vladimir Zelensky had signed another law related to martial law in Ukraine.


The law, it turns out, allows Ukrainian citizens to apply weapon during martial law. The head of the Ukrainian state declares that this "will help the citizens of the country to participate in repulse, defense of the fatherland."

The document states that citizens of the country will not bear criminal responsibility for the use of weapons during the current martial law.

This law raises a number of questions. On its basis, it turns out that all those Ukrainians who were given weapons in the early days of the Russian special operation and who managed to use them were not released from criminal liability for such use. Also, the question is, to what level will crime increase in today's Ukraine, if the president releases citizens from any responsibility for the use of weapons by everyone indiscriminately?

Ultimately, these weapons, which the Kyiv regime allows for use, can be turned against itself. It will turn out to be a paradoxical situation, in which those who organize another coup in the country are de jure exempted from criminal liability, since virtually any activity can be summed up under “opposition to the aggressor and repulse” in today's Ukraine.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 10 March 2022 06: 25
    +33
    Zelensky is just a clinical Go-Ot ... turned the entire population of Ukraine into combatants am
    In accordance with this law, there are no more civilians there!
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 March 2022 06: 33
      +9
      Quote: Hunter 2
      In accordance with this law, there are no more civilians there!

      Here's what to do to our soldiers when stripping us. points and providing "corridors" to citizens?
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 10 March 2022 06: 39
        +7
        Quote: Clear

        Here's what to do to our soldiers when stripping us. points and providing "corridors" to citizens?

        I really hope that the Ukrainians themselves will hang this clown.
        Well, We - continue to show the rest of the world who we had to face in Ukraine ... the last instigator of "total war" ended very badly.
        1. RED_ICE
          RED_ICE 10 March 2022 08: 17
          +7
          The rest of the world doesn't care. They just need it.
        2. private person
          private person 11 March 2022 11: 59
          +1
          I really hope that the Ukrainians themselves will hang this clown.

          Hope in vain, it seems that somehow everything suits them, they sleep and see themselves in geyroppe and in nata. And then there is such a law as a gift, you can do anything and nothing will happen for it. Old Man Makhno did not even dream of such an anarchy.
      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 10 March 2022 06: 58
        +3
        Quote: Clear
        Here's what to do to our soldiers when stripping us. points and providing "corridors" to citizens?

        Well, the shooter in the hands is still quite distinguishable from a distance.
        1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 10 March 2022 06: 54
      +6
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Zelensky is just a clinical Go-Ot ... turned the entire population of Ukraine into combatants

      And I see that he, like a monkey, repeats the methods tested (EVER by SOMEONE). And you must remember them too (meaning the presence of weapons in certain groups of the population and the complete absence of it in others).
      We should be more concerned not with the quirks of Zelensky and Co., but with the methods and intensity of the implementation of DEMILITARIZATION and DENACYFATION. Procrastination is like death. In this particular case, the population should be aware that weapons are not a panacea for all ills.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 10 March 2022 09: 08
        +3
        No, the actions of the monkey, which pulls out the fuses from all the grenades in a row, should worry us. This law formally allows complete lawlessness in Ukraine. Now the monkey is subject to the speedy elimination, so as not to pull out something critical. This law demonstrates not so much Ze's inability to negotiate, but its complete inadequacy. And the elimination of the monkey will just speed up DE and DE. hi
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 10 March 2022 06: 58
      +3
      There, and without this "law" the law of the jungle has long been implemented - every man for himself. And, weapons as an argument with or without it.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 10 March 2022 08: 58
        +6
        And now it also turns out that any dolboyascher, having received a weapon, can do anything. To rob, kill, rape.. Because it is "according to the law", they used to have it like that, but at least only for scum from official terrorist structures. And now you can every bastard indiscriminately. Damn, it's cooler than "license to kill." There are weapons, do what you want. Ze simply does not deserve the right to life. He will be killed by someone who has received a handed out weapon and according to a law he himself has issued.
        This will be the natural result.
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 10 March 2022 07: 07
      +5
      Quote: Hunter 2
      In accordance with this law, there are no more civilians there!

      There are women, children and old people left who will not use weapons by 90%. But, on the other hand, those who will resist marauders or help the Russian army will also not be brought under any responsibility
    5. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 10 March 2022 07: 09
      +9
      turned the entire population of Ukraine into combatants
      Combatants, all the same, are representatives of the Armed Forces with the necessary attributes and not just with weapons. It's just that armed people are nothing more than bandits and terrorists. You can't mess with them. And with this law, the Zelepuka simply took the entire population of the country out of the legal field, writing everyone en masse into bandits, and the whole country into a terrorist territory where even the elementary norms of international law do not apply. But all sorts of PACE and OSCE will not notice this once again. Although for the adoption of such laws it is necessary to deprive the territory of the status of a country and introduce a complete blockade of everything and everything.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 10 March 2022 07: 49
        -3
        Tell me, but the inhabitants of Texas, armed - who are they, also bandits and terrorists? Any law or loud phrase can be twisted in different directions.. Let's assume a sad variant. - in our country, rampant crime and a mess "a la the 90s" .. will you personally refuse military weapons (to protect your loved ones, so to speak), which they will give you for free? Do not refuse - then you are also a terrorist and a criminal?
        1. maximaniak
          maximaniak 10 March 2022 08: 06
          +17
          This is not about the presence / absence of weapons, but about the absence of criminal liability for their use. This is no longer the 90s, this is a post-apocalyptic stalker, whatever you want to call it. Texans are going to jail for murder
        2. volodimer
          volodimer 10 March 2022 09: 12
          +6
          Maxim correctly pointed out that the point is not that citizens have weapons in their hands, but that this law removes any responsibility from citizens for their use.
        3. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 10 March 2022 09: 51
          +3
          You do not find what, to have legally, and to apply uncontrollably. These are still completely different things. If a Texan, even legally armed, decides that he can shoot anyone he wants. He is usually shot like a rabid dog, without any sentimentality.
    6. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 10 March 2022 08: 58
      +6
      Combatants are only those who are dressed in a uniform that allows you to establish belonging to the security forces.
      All the rest are armed bandits, with whom the conversation should be short. No longer than automatic burst.
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 10 March 2022 09: 06
        +1
        Combatant (Combatant - fighting) - a person who takes a direct part in hostilities as part of the armed forces of one of the parties to an international armed conflict and has a special legal status as such.

        Quote: Metallurg_2
        Combatants are only those who are in uniform,
        All the rest are armed bandits, with whom the conversation should be short.

        There is not a word about the form! For everything else - I totally agree!
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 10 March 2022 10: 13
          +1
          Rule 106 of the Study on Customary International Humanitarian Law cites the generally accepted view of the international community on this matter: “Combatants have an obligation to distinguish themselves from the civilian population while they are engaged in an attack or in a military operation in preparation for an attack. If they do not comply with this requirement, they are not eligible for POW status."
          Ie insignia be required. They do not have to be a predetermined form. That is, the same letters Z and V essentially make their carriers combatants with all the ensuing consequences. And just a man with a gun is still a civilian who is a bandit, terrorist or mercenary. The trick of this Zelepuki decree is that it is not clearly spelled out where he wrote down the entire population of Ukraine. Or they are combatants, in which case all the rules of warfare, including carpet bombing, apply to them. Or he wrote everyone down as bandits and terrorists, the destruction of which does not entail any special consequences. In general, with this decree, he only confirms what everyone has long known. The puppet Ukrainian junta is going to wage war to the last Ukrainian.
    7. Maz
      Maz 10 March 2022 09: 06
      +1
      That is, legally we can carry out carpet bombing. Zelya deprived the entire population of Ukraine of the status of civilians. Well, viper
    8. Alt 22
      Alt 22 10 March 2022 10: 13
      0
      Do you consider unarmed men, children, women, old people combatants?
      Or is it still armed people, no matter if they are in uniform or not?
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 10 March 2022 06: 27
    +8
    for the use of weapons during the current martial law, citizens of the country will not bear.

    Here scumbags Tornados roam... no restrictions on murders... a neighbor will point to a neighbor's nationality, they will shoot the poor fellow... I don't envy Ukraine... a massacre like Volyn is brewing.
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 March 2022 06: 35
      +5
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      for the use of weapons during the current martial law, citizens of the country will not bear.

      Here scumbags Tornados roam... no restrictions on murders... a neighbor will point to a neighbor's nationality, they will shoot the poor fellow... I don't envy Ukraine... a massacre like Volyn is brewing.

      This suggests that Zelensky and his entourage are not in Ukraine.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 10 March 2022 06: 57
        +5
        Quote: Clear
        This suggests that Zelensky and his entourage are not in Ukraine.

        Still ... Who in their right mind would test explosive devices in their own kitchen?
        1. -Paul-
          -Paul- 10 March 2022 10: 11
          +4
          Well, that's how it was lol How many former ATO officers tried to dismantle the VU in the kitchen.
  3. svp67
    svp67 10 March 2022 06: 33
    +14
    They decided to really fight for the interests of America to the last Ukrainian ... Do they understand that now it is no longer possible to talk about civilians?
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 March 2022 06: 36
      +6
      Quote: svp67
      They decided to really fight for the interests of America to the last Ukrainian ... Do they understand that now it is no longer possible to talk about civilians?

      It is from this that we must proceed in order to prevent the death of our guys. If perishing under wartime law, then we "wash our hands."
    2. lucul
      lucul 10 March 2022 07: 50
      +3
      They decided to really fight for the interests of America to the last Ukrainian ... Do they understand that now it is no longer possible to talk about civilians?

      So who was sorry when the goyim?
      This is about the death of the chosen Nemtsovs, Magnitskys, Politkovskys, the universal howl rises, even for one person, and who will count those Russians, even if they die in tens of thousands, they don’t care about that.
  4. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 10 March 2022 06: 35
    +10
    It is a pity that Zelya will leave the cordon at the last moment. He must be judged. But this trash will definitely not wait for an arrest.
    1. nerd.su
      nerd.su 10 March 2022 07: 01
      +4
      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      It is a pity that Zelya will leave the cordon at the last moment. He must be judged.

      The production of ice axes still exists...?
      1. Murmur 55
        Murmur 55 10 March 2022 07: 19
        +1
        Yes, we still make ice axes, but there may be problems with ICE CRUSHERS! wink
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 10 March 2022 07: 21
          +4
          Quote: Murmur 55
          Yes, we still make ice axes, but there may be problems with ICE CRUSHERS!

          ice pickers... as butchers sounds, it's kind of rude. But we have no problems with climbers.
      2. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
        Aleksey Aleksandrovich 10 March 2022 08: 14
        +4
        The production of ice axes still exists...?


        An ice ax is not that .... It is a court that is needed. Public, open, with testimonies of witnesses, documents, etc.
        And with an ice ax on the crown of the head and .... the victim of bloody Russia is ready. And instead of condemning this freak, monuments will be erected.
        No, an ice ax is not an option. He must be taken alive and judged. How are you going to get him, bastard?
        1. Valery Vp
          Valery Vp 10 March 2022 08: 30
          0
          choito you do not believe in our special services. If there is a desire, they will get it even in Antarctica, and drag it where it needs to be. Yes, but there will be no such desire. As usual, they will express concern and live out their days, having stolen greens in Miami, warming their belly.
          1. volodimer
            volodimer 10 March 2022 09: 20
            +2
            Well, one of the shaitans, I remember they got it in Qatar ... Not us, of course winked but we were accused.
        2. nerd.su
          nerd.su 10 March 2022 14: 14
          +1
          Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
          An ice ax is not that .... It is a court that is needed. Public, open, with testimonies of witnesses, documents, etc.

          Well, I gave an ice ax as an example of the inevitability of punishment, and not a specific method. Although, as a last resort...
          A public trial can be held without Zelensky if there are enough documents and witnesses.
          Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
          How are you going to get him, bastard?

          If he runs away abroad, then on the wanted list. Even if he hides in the states, what a thread the sultry Ramona Mercader can invite him to ride on a yacht, for example. And it would be nice to get out of the territorial waters, it would be good for 50 kilometers. And then, quite by chance, our submarine emerges, accidentally discovers the wanted person and safely sails away with the prisoner to their native shores. If the yacht is a figurant, it is also not a sin to arrest it.
          Something like this...
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 10 March 2022 07: 03
      +3
      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      But this trash will definitely not wait for an arrest.

      In the light of Bastrykin’s latest statements about the location of three dozen biological laboratories on the territory of Ukraine and Nuland’s crumpled statement about the inadmissibility of materials and research from these institutions falling into the hands of the Russian authorities, Zelensky’s position and knowledge can play a cruel joke and cause his sudden death ... from " heart attack or cancer, for example.
  5. Dikson
    Dikson 10 March 2022 06: 35
    +4
    You can engage in casuistry as much as you like .. But in essence, the move is immoral, but strategically correct - practically declaring "a people's liberation war from the invading invaders." In the wake of the frantic hatred for Russia nurtured over the years, this is a very effective strategy for a long "guerrilla" sabotage war .. It is clear that the weapon chat will be hidden in basements and hiding places, some will be resold (including to Russia .. - and who from gangsters will refuse the barrel for free ?!) But a certain percentage of the population, picking up this machine gun, will shoot from the attic or from the doorway at our people .. and during the day they will even say hello and smile, and at night they will take revenge .. Passed already that's all .. Zelensky -? Maybe. But let's imagine hypothetically - some "Japanese" are seizing our Kuriles and the Far East .. Do you think it makes sense to distribute weapons to our population? Not?
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 10 March 2022 06: 43
      +6
      a certain percentage of the population, picking up this machine gun, will shoot from the attic or from the gateway at our people ..

      The NKVD must be set in motion ... all the stubborn people must be warned ... they will find a weapon in a house or a cache, they will be held accountable according to the laws of war.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 10 March 2022 06: 47
        +8
        Do not.
        Donetsk miners will follow them.
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 10 March 2022 19: 33
        0
        Quote: Lech from Android.

        The NKVD must be set in motion ... all the stubborn people must be warned ... they will find a weapon in a house or a cache, they will be held accountable according to the laws of war.
        Hands in gunpowder - shoot ...
        Paris 1871
        Painting by V. Vereshchagin 1895
        hi
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 10 March 2022 07: 17
      +3
      Quote: Dikson
      But in essence, the move is immoral, but strategically correct - practically declaring "a people's liberation war from the invading invaders."

      This action has a weak side. After the signing of the agreement (actual surrender), the possession and use of weapons by any citizen can be subject to a death sentence without trial or investigation (if it goes far) ... yes
      Quote: Dikson
      But let's imagine hypothetically - some "Japanese" are seizing our Kuriles and the Far East .. Do you think it makes sense to distribute weapons to our population? Not?

      Let's imagine that the Japanese army simply does not have time to land on the Kuriles. Let's compare the population density in the Far East and in the cities (villages) of Ukraine. Let's finally note the ethnic differences between the Japanese and the Slavs.
      Partisanism was appropriate and effective in the wars of the past. Today, it will not bring the desired result, unless 100% of the population hates the “adversary”.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 10 March 2022 07: 56
        +2
        I partially agree with you .. but I immediately wrote - "immoral" .. About partisanism - you can remember Afghanistan, and other Somalia .. as a result - "partisanism" does not bring victory, but brings chaos and terror to the population, victims and sabotage in rear .. 100% of the Afghans were not dushmans, but how much blood of our boys was shed on the roads and passes of Afghanistan?
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 10 March 2022 09: 53
          +1
          Quote: Dikson
          100% of the Afghans were not dushmans, but how much blood of our boys was shed on the roads and passes of Afghanistan?

          Here we had a fundamental difference in mentality (despite the attempt to send those who had undergone retraining to the war). Some Afghans still have not squandered their good attitude towards the Shuravi...
          =====
          A huge amount of work must be done in Ukraine in order to restore true (not vile) brotherhood.
          1. Dikson
            Dikson 10 March 2022 11: 11
            +2
            "you won't be forced to be nice" ..- people here too often forget folk wisdom .. In Afghanistan, they did so much good - education, medicine, roads and factories .. and as a result - drugs remained and ruins .. "hard to be a god ".. There is no ideology. - there is no unification .. the only thing that somehow still unites Ukraine and Russia is the Great Patriotic War .. but this connection was also heavily discredited and distorted ..
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 March 2022 07: 02
    +2
    An attempt to wrap complete lawlessness in a beautiful wrapper of the law? It was possible not to adopt this law, because. uncontrollably distributing military weapons to the population automatically removed all responsibility from this population and pushed them to complete lawlessness on the streets of cities. What we are seeing today.
  7. Egoza
    Egoza 10 March 2022 07: 23
    +2
    At the same time, on March 4, the following law was signed and approved
    President Volodymyr Zelensky has signed a law toughening penalties for high treason and looting. This follows from the status of the document on the website of the Verkhovna Rada.
    Now, for treason or sabotage in wartime, threatens from 15 years in prison or life imprisonment with confiscation of property.
    For looting threatens a term of five to ten years.

    With which foot he got up, with that foot he writes laws!
  8. syndicalist
    syndicalist 10 March 2022 07: 24
    0
    . Ultimately, these weapons, which the Kyiv regime allows for use, can be turned against itself.

    And this is the main advantage of the general arming of the population in any country. In this case, the usurpation of power by an individual ruler who has gone crazy, or by a group, becomes impossible. Only an armed people can be a real source of power.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 10 March 2022 10: 09
      -2
      Quote: syndicalist
      Only an armed people can be a real source of power.

      He slept so cheaply ... And all from self-conceit, - he pushed, tried to give out something thoughtful, but in the end he sat down in a fetid puddle. yes laughing
  9. Roust
    Roust 10 March 2022 07: 36
    +3
    Idiocy. This is a sentence for the civilian population. This clown - the joker - IT. There are no words. What kind of mother gave birth?
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 10 March 2022 08: 31
      0
      Do you think this is his decision? I doubt it, however, as in that movie.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 10 March 2022 07: 45
    +4
    The authorities of Ukraine removed the responsibility from citizens for the use of weapons during martial law
    . What's this??? Walk flaw, do sho hosh and you will get nothing for it!!!
    Nda s s s, now the shooting will go without restrictions!
    Now such a simple question, to ours ... is it possible to say about such people that this government does not need to be changed ??? They are not normal!
  11. Amateur
    Amateur 10 March 2022 08: 07
    +4
    The law, it turns out, allows Ukrainian citizens to use weapons during martial law. The head of the Ukrainian state declares that this "will help the citizens of the country to participate in repulse, defense of the fatherland."

    Goebbels: “I release you from the chimera called “conscience”, and on behalf of the Fuhrer I order you to be ruthless towards people of inferior races!”;

    Almost one to one.
    Wangyu that the arrest, Zelensky and other bastards like Goebbels and the demon-possessed Fuhrer will end.
    1. Emergency
      Emergency 10 March 2022 08: 35
      0
      Given that they behave in the same way as the Nazi pack in the spring of 1945, then for sure.
  12. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 10 March 2022 08: 09
    0
    Did the authorities take responsibility for the death of civilians using weapons against the RF Armed Forces?
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 March 2022 08: 20
    +1
    Cut off Novorossia and Little Russia with a serious border with serious security systems and let them arrange another "wild west" there, at least until the end of the century. Let's see what the Poles and Magyars say to these scatterbrained.
  14. Emergency
    Emergency 10 March 2022 08: 34
    +2
    Anarchy is the mother of order?! Isn't he afraid that he will be the first to be put on the fly?
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 10 March 2022 08: 34
    +3
    Suicide is not prohibited
  16. woffka
    woffka 10 March 2022 09: 13
    +1
    Zelensky needs to be treated. He will also be banged from this weapon
  17. Bare
    Bare 10 March 2022 09: 32
    +1
    Now it will look something like this
  18. hector
    hector 10 March 2022 10: 31
    0
    The document states that citizens of the country will not bear criminal responsibility for the use of weapons during the current martial law.

    Now everything - "walk the flaw!"
  19. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 10 March 2022 10: 42
    0
    Distributed 300 thousand trunks. There are already civilian casualties. And from Zelensky, water is like water off a duck's back. He rules the country in a cocaine fog ...
  20. Kerensky
    Kerensky 10 March 2022 11: 07
    0
    Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko, who then left his post, then returned again, posted a note saying on the signing by Vladimir Zelensky of another law related to the operation of martial law in Ukraine.

    And where is the law itself, which we strongly condemn? Or are we hotly discussing the post of Gerashchenko, who is sometimes an adviser?
  21. January
    January 10 March 2022 12: 02
    +2
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Quote: Clear
    Here's what to do to our soldiers when stripping us. points and providing "corridors" to citizens?

    Well, the shooter in the hands is still quite distinguishable from a distance.

    Are you waiting for attacking chains from the population? They won't.
    They will shoot at night and in the back. Those who came during the day for humanitarian ink.
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 March 2022 12: 22
      +2
      Quote: ian
      They will shoot at night and in the back. Those who came during the day for humanitarian ink.

      They will go to any lengths.
      1. agond
        agond 10 March 2022 12: 35
        +1
        The population of Ukraine, as elsewhere, is heterogeneous, the assessment of what is happening can be divided into opposing opinions, and everyone who wants has a weapon, it’s not far from the civil war.
        1. Clear
          Clear 11 March 2022 09: 04
          +1
          Quote: agond
          The population of Ukraine, as elsewhere, is heterogeneous, the assessment of what is happening can be divided into opposing opinions, and everyone who wants has a weapon, it’s not far from the civil war.

          We are talking about this. yes
  22. XNUMX%
    XNUMX% 10 March 2022 12: 49
    -1
    How many people will now die ... just like that, because Zelensky allowed it. It will be necessary to take it out into the street when the shit bander is disposed of, then take it and take it out. I wonder how quickly it will turn into a screeching piece of rotten meat after that.
  23. riwas
    riwas 10 March 2022 13: 19
    +1
    The authorities of Ukraine removed the responsibility from citizens for the use of weapons during martial law

    So our prosecutor's office has already brought it to the authorities of Ukraine for sure, so the responsibility will come. And anyone who is seen with a weapon will be shot and the rights of prisoners of war do not apply to them.
  24. Paul Neumann
    Paul Neumann 10 March 2022 15: 11
    -1
    not understood...
    1) during martial law, control over small arms is only strengthened. at least it has been so in all conflicts so far.
    2) armed civilians are not considered combatants and they are not subject to the Hague-Geneva Conventions, neither regarding prisoners of war, nor regarding the civilian population.
  25. Vitaliy.
    Vitaliy. 10 March 2022 16: 42
    0
    Neighbor, do you remember you borrowed 100 hryvnia from me before payday? Yes? And you promised to pay me back? But he didn't give up! So you also moved the fence 0.5 mm in my direction? Receive and subscribe.