Panzerfaust 3 grenade launchers for Ukraine. Help with limited capacity

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German soldier with RPG Panzerfaust 3. Photo by the German Ministry of Defense

In recent weeks, foreign countries have been massively transferring various infantry weapons to Ukraine, incl. various anti-tank systems. So, several countries at once shared their German-made Panzerfaust 3 anti-tank rocket launchers. It is assumed that such weapon will help the Ukrainian army fight the advancing enemy, but its real effectiveness may be in question.

foreign aid


In the last days of February, official Berlin expressed its readiness to help Ukraine with the supply of various weapons, incl. anti-tank weapons. It soon became known that Germany, among other things, would transfer to the Ukrainian army 1000 Panzerfaust 3 rocket-propelled grenade launchers. It was planned to take the weapons from the warehouses of its own army and transfer them in the coming days.



In addition, Germany allowed third countries to re-export their grenade launchers to Ukraine. Thus, the Netherlands expressed its readiness to share 50 grenade launchers and 400 rounds for them. Italy planned to allocate a certain number of Panzerfaust-3s.


Grenade launchers "Panzerfaust-3" with different shots. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

The first batches of German RPGs went to Ukraine in early March; deliveries continued in the following days. According to known data, weapons are delivered by air to Poland, and from there they are transported by road to Ukraine. What part of the grenade launchers managed to be transferred to the recipient is unknown. It is possible that their transportation has already been completed or is nearing completion.

The other day, reports appeared in the Ukrainian media about the transfer of the first Panzerfaust 3 grenade launchers to the army and territorial defense units. The process of developing new weapons has begun, and in the near future they can be used in battles. At the same time, the results of future combat use are still in question.

For the Bundeswehr and for export


In 1978, the Bundeswehr formed the terms of reference for a new RPG, designed to replace obsolete models. The following year, Dynamit-Nobel AG received an order to develop a full-fledged design and conduct tests. The new project received the working designation Panzerfaust 60/100, indicating the caliber of the barrel and head of the grenade.

Panzerfaust 3 grenade launchers for Ukraine. Help with limited capacity

Sighting system Dynarange. Photo by Dynamit-Nobel AG

Tests of the grenade launcher began in 1979-80, and the next few years were spent on fine-tuning it. Only in 1987, the new RPG was adopted under the name Panzerfaust 3 and went into small-scale production. Full-scale production began in 1990, both for the Bundeswehr and for other countries.

The first and main customer of "Panzerfaust-3" was the armed forces of Germany. In 1989, the first export contract was signed: Japan became the buyer. Two years later, a German-Swiss agreement on licensed production appeared. Later, Germany received new orders.

To date, the Panzerfaust 3 has entered service with a dozen countries, mostly European. Most of the customers received finished products, while Switzerland and South Korea acquired a license for their own production. Just the other day, another operator appeared in the person of Ukraine. Its army is being armed by removing RPGs from storage in three foreign countries.


German grenade launchers on exercises. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Germany

Technical features


Panzerfaust 3 is a rocket-propelled anti-tank grenade launcher for infantry weapons. It is intended to destroy various armored vehicles, incl. major tanks, structures, etc. The project used several curious technical solutions aimed at simplifying operation and obtaining high performance characteristics.

The architecture of "Panzerfaust-3" is not typical for RPGs. This grenade launcher in combat position consists of a transport-launch container with an over-caliber grenade, a fire control unit and a sight mounted on it. To perform a shot, the TPK is docked with the control unit and the sight. After firing, an empty disposable container is removed from the control unit and a new one is mounted.

Depending on the ammunition used, the RPG has a length of approx. 1200 mm. Weight in combat position - from 12,6 to 14,3 kg. The weapon can be carried and used by one fighter. Transportation by any transport also does not cause fundamental problems.

The control unit from the Panzerfaust 3 is a folding device with two handles and a shoulder rest. The shot is made using a simple trigger mechanism with a fuse. The control unit is compatible with all types of ammunition and scopes.


Grenade launcher in the army of the Netherlands. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

In the original configuration, Panzerfaust 3 is equipped with an optical sight. It has a small magnification and is equipped with a reticle with a rangefinder function. The calculation of corrections and guidance are carried out by the grenade launcher independently. For shooting at night, it was proposed to equip the sight with a night vision attachment. Under optimal conditions, a regular sight provides shooting at 300-400 m.

Later, the Dynarange electronic complex was developed based on the Simrad IS2000 "computer" sight. Such a sight is equipped with a laser rangefinder and computing facilities. He must calculate the ballistics of the shot and determine the lead point. Due to electronics, the firing range has been increased to 600 m.

Used ammunition


A shot for a grenade launcher is a container-barrel with a grenade, equipped at the factory. The barrel is made in the form of a light tube with a smooth bore of 60 mm caliber. Inside it is placed a grenade shank with a jet engine, a propellant charge and an anti-mass ejected through the rear cut. As a counterweight, plastic granules of the desired mass are used.


Shot moment. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Germany

Grenades of all types have over-caliber warheads of various shapes. Some are equipped with a retractable or telescopic rod for a leading charge. The caliber shank of the grenade contains a reactive charge. The initial velocity of grenades of all types is 165 m/s. A unified jet engine accelerates them in flight up to 250 m/s.

There are several types of grenades. The main one is the DM12 with a HEAT warhead penetrating up to 700 mm of homogeneous armor. The more advanced DM21 grenade is equipped with a tandem warhead. Its leading charge is carried forward on a telescopic base. Penetration increased to 800 mm behind ERA.

Bunkerfaust 3 ammunition is designed to fight buildings or fortifications. This is a high-explosive grenade with a detonation delay. It is capable of punching a hole in concrete up to 300 mm thick or in a soil barrier 1-1,3 m thick. There is also an inert practical grenade.

Opportunities and Potential


The Panzerfaust 3 product as a whole can be considered a typical modern anti-tank rocket launcher. This weapon is simple in design, not too complicated in terms of operation and capable of showing fairly high performance characteristics. However, it has both advantages and disadvantages.


Shot from a different angle. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Germany

The advantages of "Panzerfaust-3" include small dimensions and weight, as well as a certain ease of handling. Important advantages are given by the chosen scheme with disposable barrels-containers and the presence of several shots for different purposes. This simplifies transportation and preparation for the shot, as well as the possibility of hitting various targets.

In terms of its combat qualities, the German RPG is generally similar to other modern models, although it is inferior to some. So, effective shooting with a standard sight is possible only at 300-400 m, while for the older RPG-7 this parameter reaches 500 m. At the same time, the limited range is compensated by high penetration - the Panzerfaust 3 is ahead of other samples in this parameter.

However, the implementation of the entire technical potential of the grenade launcher is associated with well-known difficulties. Thus, firing at tanks from distances of less than 300 m poses a danger to the grenade launcher. Penetration up to 800 mm behind the DZ does not guarantee the defeat of a modern MBT in the frontal projection, and shooting at other areas of the reservation is not always possible and / or safe.


Grenade launcher after firing. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Germany

In addition, there is another factor characteristic of the modern Ukrainian army. For the correct and effective use of the Panzerfaust-3, the grenade launcher must complete a full training course with a theoretical and practical part. It is unlikely that Ukraine will be able to organize the normal training of personnel.

Untapped Benefits


Despite its considerable age, the Panzerfaust 3 anti-tank rocket launcher is still one of the best examples of its class. It shows good performance and is operated by many countries. With it, their armies get the necessary anti-tank capabilities.

Ukraine recently added to the list of operators of such weapons. In the shortest possible time, more than a thousand grenade launchers and a significant number of barrel containers were handed over to her. However, it will not be possible to realize the potential of this weapon. They will not be able to fully master it and will not have time, and in addition, a considerable part of the grenade launchers will be destroyed along with the warehouses or abandoned during the retreat.
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  1. +11
    10 March 2022 16: 01
    And at the same time, German Foreign Minister Annalena Berbock said: "If Germany stops receiving Russian oil, then our transport will stop."
    1. +14
      10 March 2022 16: 14
      Now the minusers will attack, but I will assume that some will share my statement if our authorities warned all Western well-wishers if they continue to supply weapons, mercenaries, ammunition to Ukraine. then saying the heroine from the Diamond Hand - Then we turn off the gas. And along with this, the oil pipeline, we will stop supplying metals, grain and a lot of things that the West lacks so much. But this is unlikely to happen.
      1. +16
        10 March 2022 16: 22
        This is of course all true. But they, in turn, will also stop supplying us with a lot of things in general from what else they supply. For example, consumables for medical equipment, the high-tech part of which is almost completely imported (I just work in this area, so I know and write about it). What will happen after 100% restrictions on each other (us and the West) is not easy to imagine, but the fact that everything will be even worse than now is a fact. The only question is who will last longer (well, or just live).
        1. +2
          10 March 2022 18: 10
          we are more patient than they are, the west will howl earlier, and the main thing is not the first time I am writing, turn off the supply of Neon, they already have a lack of chips, but here there will be a complete fifth point.
          they will have such losses that even gas and oil will not cause so much damage
          1. -1
            10 March 2022 22: 00
            Here's how in DMB, "bang, Be sure to bang, and more than once, the whole world is in dust ..." Now they are laying out their "trump cards". And we will wait, and then we will put our trump cards on top ... or "ours" .. "Petrovsky Plant". After that they won't be able to move.
      2. 0
        10 March 2022 16: 23
        The account is gone. 2 for; 2 vs.
    2. +5
      10 March 2022 18: 21
      If German public transport stops, then you can push it - the citizens of Ukraine. Cheap and practical. Barge Haulers on the Volga)
      1. +4
        10 March 2022 18: 33
        Why insult Mother Volga so much, why don’t we get barge haulers-skakuas ...
    3. +1
      10 March 2022 18: 54
      It would be nice to re-import grenade launchers, stingers and others like them back to Germany, Sweden, Italy, Poland, etc. captured in trophies. as a gift to the bearded boys who are so loved there. I am sure that these bearded kids will be very happy with new toys, otherwise some people in Geyrop began to forget what it is - a war in your house.
    4. +1
      11 March 2022 12: 15
      So they don't send anything. They do it through third parties.
  2. sen
    +11
    10 March 2022 16: 10
    Inside it is placed a grenade shank with a jet engine, a propellant charge and an anti-mass ejected through the rear cut.

    You can shoot from enclosed spaces in the city, the RPG-7 does not have such an opportunity.
    1. 0
      10 March 2022 16: 30
      Quote: sen
      Inside it are placed a grenade shank with

      You can shoot from enclosed spaces in the city, the RPG-7 does not have such an opportunity.

      Restricted from closed space. Anti-mass is not a panacea - exhaust is still up to 8 meters, the Bundestag has better models - PZF-3t (tandem, armor penetration for speakers 800mm.) PZF-3 dunkerfaust (for a bunker) and for guerrilla warfare in urban conditions PZF RGW (models from 60 -90mm) but they themselves need it.
      1. 0
        10 March 2022 16: 41
        Can you please tell me how much time is needed to prepare a chika grenade launcher?
        1. 0
          10 March 2022 17: 04
          Up to three months of intensive training for the PZF-3 (+ modifications), for the PZF lanze 44-2A1 less time - the previous PZF model (easier in the aiming block - magnification, range, exhaust up to 15 meters.) hi
          1. +1
            10 March 2022 17: 09
            Thank you for the answer, I was thinking for the simplicity of my soul for three days!
          2. +2
            10 March 2022 17: 38
            Where did the information about three months of intensive training come from?
            1. 0
              10 March 2022 18: 12
              Quote from Kir Shadrin
              Where did the information about three months of intensive training come from?

              Try to apply it like this: you have two training shots, the distance to the target is 250-400 meters. , score, excellent, - hit the target with two shots. score, good, the target was hit by the first grenade - the second into milk. ,,satisfactory,, - the first in milk - the second in the goal. Something like this hi
              1. 0
                11 March 2022 12: 15
                Of course, nothing will work from scratch, but you can explain the basic principles and conduct test firing in a few days, the edge in a week
                1. -1
                  11 March 2022 12: 48
                  [quote = Kir Shadrin] Of course, nothing will work from scratch, but you can explain the basic principles and conduct test firing in a few days, an edge in a week [/ quote] hi
                  Of course you can Yes the only question is where to conduct ([quote = Kir Shadrin] explain the basic principles and conduct test firing [/ quote] (Zap.Ukraine option) where the troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stand still without going to break through the boilers, question # 2 were PZF delivered with complexes for training shooting or you offer them to dispose of ammunition at the range
                  in a few days, the edge in a week [/ quote]
          3. +3
            11 March 2022 11: 44
            And if before that a training course was learned for another grenade launcher? The same RPG-7? Three months is probably enough to hammer in the head once and for all the requirements for the handling of weapons and operation, and bring to an intuitive process of aiming. Kmb then we don’t have 1 day, although you can explain how to use it in a couple of hours.
            1. -1
              11 March 2022 11: 52
              Quote: English Tarantas
              And if before that a training course was learned for another grenade launcher? The same RPG-7?
              hi
              You are right, a trained fighter will retrain much faster. Let's leave the effectiveness of the fighter "from the plow" behind the brackets. I wonder who downvoted you.
  3. +11
    10 March 2022 16: 11
    In the last paragraph, Ryabov repeats...
    I think a grenade launcher who has mastered RPG 7 will deal with this.
    There is a photo on the Internet where these "Panzerfausts" are in the hands of the Teroboronists.
    1. +1
      10 March 2022 16: 51
      There is a photo on the Internet where these "Panzerfausts" are in the hands of the Teroboronists.


      Isn't that the case?



      These guys also ran around with "Faustpatrons" - it didn't help.

      1. -1
        10 March 2022 18: 24
        price "did not help" what?
        And most importantly, with whom to butt? the same Slavs.
        you need to brainwash, cut down the broadcasting of channels 404 and all other related actions.
        although I understand why ours do not go to the assault.
        they are waiting for the locals to get tired of being covered by them and realize that the militants are not fucking defenders.
        1. 0
          10 March 2022 21: 08
          And most importantly, with whom to butt? the same Slavs.

          Absolutely agree. I meant only the Nazis, both of them.
    2. +2
      10 March 2022 17: 33
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      There is a photo on the Internet where these "Panzerfausts" are in the hands of the Teroboronists.

      On YouTube flashed on the video "Azov" with R-3 in Mariupol ...
  4. +1
    10 March 2022 16: 19
    The advantages of "Panzerfaust-3" include small dimensions and weight,

    12-14 kg, I would not say that this is a small mass against the background of the RPG-7.
    1. +1
      10 March 2022 17: 29
      Quote: Ua3qhp
      12-14 kg, I would not say that this is a small mass against the background of the RPG-7.

      The "Panzerfaust-3" caliber, if my memory serves me, is 60 mm versus 40 mm for the RPG-7, plus "anti-mass" ... however, the launch "tube" of the "Faust" is disposable ... can be made from lightweight materials ! Grenades for the P-3 are mainly 90 mm and 110 mm, although there was a report of a 125 mm grenade developed ...
  5. -4
    10 March 2022 16: 21
    And why not then, when these panzerfausts turn out to be trophies, not to shoot from them at the pipe through which we pump gas through Ukraine to Germany. And when the ears of ordinary burghers get cold, and the industry slowly starts to get up, then offer them to quickly certify SP2 and repair the Ukrainian pipe at their own expense.
    1. 0
      10 March 2022 18: 25
      here the sad thing is that this is what the states are trying to achieve (((
      1. 0
        10 March 2022 19: 59
        Judging by the fact that even the most frostbitten Nazis do not raise their hand to the pipeline, Ukraine needs it first of all. SP 2 will completely replace it. The condition of the Ukrainian section of the gas pipeline is such that it can stand up by itself.
  6. +7
    10 March 2022 16: 28
    According to known data, weapons are delivered by air to Poland, and from there they are transported by road to Ukraine.

    The Americans in our place would have long ago smashed to smithereens these roads on the border, along with the convoy that transports weapons.
    1. -2
      10 March 2022 16: 36
      Americans ..... would have smashed these roads to the borders long ago

      We will also respond to Germany's "humanitarian" aid - we will continue pumping gas to the maximum.
      Such is our government's retaliatory sanctions.
      1. +1
        10 March 2022 17: 52
        Quote: prior
        We will also respond to Germany's "humanitarian" aid - we will continue pumping gas to the maximum.

        Yes, some nonsense is going on. Also, the former German Chancellor Schroeder came to Putin to discuss the situation in Ukraine. They themselves supply weapons and talk about peace.
        1. 0
          13 May 2022 12: 55
          The Germans may be talking about peace, but American bases and airfields have not disappeared from Germany))
  7. +4
    10 March 2022 17: 04
    https://topwar.ru/33941-panzerfaust-3-bespokoynoe-semeystvo.html Вот нормальная статья с сайта TopWar от 30 сентября 2013. А не нынешняя агитка с пожелтевшего сайта((((
    1. -1
      10 March 2022 17: 19
      And not the current propaganda from a yellowed site (((([/ quote] In fact, the article is not about the characteristics of the PZF, but about their use in Ukraine - yesterday, today, tomorrow. negative
      1. +1
        10 March 2022 18: 02
        In fact, the article is not about the characteristics of the PZF, but about their application in Ukraine - yesterday, today, tomorrow
        True, there is not a word about the application in the article, therefore the usual agitation.
  8. 0
    10 March 2022 17: 40
    The Netherlands expressed its readiness to share 50 grenade launchers and 400 rounds for them.
    Here's how they do it? If my memory serves me, the R-3's launcher "tube" is disposable ... how will 400 grenades be divided into 50 "disposable launchers"? request
    1. +2
      10 March 2022 18: 43
      The control unit from the Panzerfaust 3 is reusable. Only the barrel-container with the projectile changes.
      1. 0
        10 March 2022 21: 53
        Quote: Constanty
        The control unit from the Panzerfaust 3 is reusable

        That's it! Control unit ... "sighting" device! In our country, a reusable launcher is called a grenade launcher ....
        1. +1
          11 March 2022 11: 47
          50 equipped TPK with a scope, the remaining 400 without a scope. Is it clear?
          1. 0
            11 March 2022 16: 05
            This has been clear to me for a long time ... but I added a little sarcasm to my comment ... and it turned out to be incomprehensible to you! wink By the way, earlier I expressed the following opinion: "In our country, a reusable launcher is called a grenade launcher ...."
            1. +1
              12 March 2022 05: 11
              but added a bit of sarcasm to my comment

              I didn’t notice.
              In our country, a grenade launcher is called a reusable launcher

              What's next? Does it amuse you? Personally, I do not see a hint of humor here. Well, different terminology, and? They have a machine-pistol and an assault-rifle, and we have a machine gun, that's a joke.
  9. 0
    10 March 2022 18: 02
    I always thought that the most advanced RPG in the west was Carl Gustav.
    1. +2
      10 March 2022 18: 40
      "Karl Gustav" is a rifled recoilless gun of 84 mm caliber.

      Another thing is that Gustav's deliveries to Ukraine also come from Canada, Sweden, Finland and Norway.

      They cannot defeat a tank from the front, but they are deadly in tank hunting. Just like the PzF-3
  10. 0
    11 March 2022 11: 18
    Quote: Constanty
    They can't beat a tank from the front.

    And who in their right mind attacks a tank in a frontal projection?
  11. +1
    11 March 2022 11: 39
    The architecture of "Panzerfaust-3" is not typical for RPGs

    Ryabov as always. I myself am not exactly an expert, but how can such pearls be given out?
    And what is the design for the RPG is typical? The first German boutspatrons had just such a design, disposable and over-caliber. What is a typical design? Over-caliber or caliber, disposable or reusable?
    And why would Ukrainians suddenly have problems using it? How different is it from Mukha or RPG-7?
    On what basis are these conclusions drawn? To mark the future as the "correct" author?
    How are the performance characteristics of panzerfaust-3 and analogues compared here? Of the data from the manuals are given on how far you can hit a particular target, is there data from the experience of use, indicating how much soldiers can actually shoot from grenade launchers, where are the data on the characteristics of various ammunition, from the same RPG -7 quite a wide range and all shells fly differently and have different armor penetration? And of course, the conclusion that it is very problematic to shoot at a tank not "in the face" is interesting (they say the Ukrainians will not be able to). But is the penetration of the RPG-7 armor-piercing projectile itself enough to hit modern tanks in the frontal projection?
    Well krch, it is not clear what this article is. The heading "weapons" involves articles of technical content. Against the backdrop of well-known events, it would really be interesting to tell people what kind of weapons this is mentioned in the news. But the author, as always, copied something somewhere. The content of the article is short: grenade launchers were sent to Ukraine, there is such a grenade launcher. Is this an article for the weapons section, or an article for the news section?
    1. 0
      12 March 2022 12: 19
      correct observation,
      moreover, the author does not consider that not only tanks, but also supply trucks or other less protected vehicles are the target.
  12. 0
    11 March 2022 14: 40
    I don’t understand our leaders in the government - if all the jackals of Europe are openly supplying lethal weapons to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, then why in response to this we do not stop supplying them with oil, gas, etc. It comes to them when we answer, and we have another stagnation in the brain-type, it can still get better !!! According to Western experts, we were confiscated, frozen, etc. a trillion dollars, and we not only did not reveal how this could happen and who allowed it, we are treating Mumu again and ...... we are not looking for and we are not nationalizing their wealth and assets in our country .. !!!
    We have traitor liberals sitting in power and in every possible way oppose our desire for the sovereignty of our state, the desire to get away from dependence at our expense to live well in Europe and a number of countries for which we are definitely a gas station and nothing more. We were declared a full-scale war in all directions, it seems that some of them still haven’t got it ..... somehow alarming ...!!!???
  13. -2
    11 March 2022 15: 04
    Ukraine received more than 15,000 anti tank weapons from NATO countries. Why don't the Russian Army use small EMP warheads in areas of Ukrainian defensive lines? The Iskander M is capable of firing EMP, and the electromagnetic pulse would fry the electronic inside the anti tank weapons rendering them useless. Without doing that the UA is capable of inflicting serious damage to armored vehicles.
  14. -1
    12 March 2022 12: 20
    Insieme ai panzerfaust ho iniziato anche a vedere anche degli Instalaza C90 spagnoli.
  15. IVZ
    0
    April 4 2022 21: 52
    [quote] [In terms of its combat qualities, the German RPG is generally similar to other modern models, although it is inferior to some. So, effective shooting with a standard sight is possible only at 300-400 m, while for the older RPG-7 this parameter reaches 500 m. / Quote]
    The effective firing range of the RPG-7 grenade PG-7VR (armor penetration 600mm behind the DZ) -200m. Sighting 200-550 meters. Weight - overall characteristics of a charged "faust" are the worst in the class, especially shots. - 11kg, against 4,5kg PG-7VR. It is easy to handle, no more complicated than RPG-7. The ability to work from the premises of a limited volume is the most valuable quality for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the current situation. Unfortunately.
  16. +1
    31 May 2022 06: 36
    I recommend AFFTARU to test the "inefficiency" of Panzerfaust 3 by sitting in a tank, infantry fighting vehicle, armored personnel carrier, truck, bunker or bunker when the gift of panzerfaust arrives there.
    If all the help is so "outdated and ineffective", who shoots down Russian planes, turntables and knocks out the armored vehicles of the Russian Army? Wy? Koschei the Deathless?
    the author has never, NEVER been under fire from anything more serious than a rowan-charged hawk. This is clear from each of his "Obsolete and ineffective" epic. Otherwise, he would have known that even the weapons of the Great Patriotic War are very deadly. Don't believe? And what will the same Zis-2 do with ANY infantry fighting vehicle or armored personnel carrier? A bullet from the old maxim will kill no worse than a bullet from the new PKM. The cartridge is the same.

    I am NOT saying that Panzerfaust 3 is a child prodigy. But in terms of power, it surpasses the latest modifications of the RPG-7 grenades. By the way, there are the latest modifications of the Panzerfaust in the troops and mass production, but what about the latest modifications of grenades on the RPG-7? By the way, the latest modifications of grenades for the RPG-7 also do not differ in a special firing range, since the warhead has increased, but the engine is the same old one, the pipe caliber cannot be changed. By the way, there will be more pipe caliber on Panzerfaust3. Moreover, unlike the RPG-7, the Panzerfaust 3 can be used from enclosed spaces. For example, from the basement of some kind of hut when some kind of equipment passes by.

    the author understands and retells the performance characteristics of the Panzerfaust, which look so quite good - enough for the T-64, and the T-72 and the T-80. About infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled guns, I am silent. By the way, the latest version of the PZF-N penetrates 900mm of armor FOR dynamic protection, the effective distance of a grenade is 600m. TTX, by the way, the author also does not know. Reduces both penetration and combat range. the author does a disservice to this resource with his constant "outdated and ineffectively" mantras. Because the reality of SAVSEM is DIFFERENT, as Great Stalin said. Along with any obsolete weapons, they also supply very normal samples: Starstreak, Stinger, Panzerfaust 3, M113 (which covers the BTR80 and BTR-90 in ALL indicators), we already know about JAVELIN and Co. If all this is "outdated and ineffective" why was there a war for 3 months and there was a hasty retreat from near Kyiv, Sumy, and Kharkov? Why is the offensive going at such a slow pace (compare with the pace of the US Army offensive in Iraq, for example). Having read "obsoletely inefficiently" from all sorts of uryak - hat-throwers, then you get a rude awakening (rude awakening), when the fantasies and fabrications of these "publicists" (which he wanted to write, freedom of speech, however), do not withstand ANY collision with the real state of affairs.

    I remind you, unlike Russia, the USA, France, England, Germany, South Korea and Japan have a good economy, and there was enough funding for all sorts of projects. Moreover, here, in the USA, analysts are responsible for "analyzing" and jambs, especially those that entailed losses and failures, are immediately investigated. And our generals don't find millions of dollars in cash under the floor. Therefore, the weapons that these countries make are not bad at all. Wunderwaffe? Of course not. But it's not "obsolete and ineffective". A completely modern weapon, clearly younger than most of the armored fleet of the Russian Army.

    Once again, AFFTARU, before pouring out streams on the topic "obsoletely inefficiently" you need to sit in a tank, an infantry fighting vehicle, an armored personnel carrier, a dugout when such a Panzerfaust 3 flies there, even a tank in the lobeshnik. And only then, if the author survives (which I doubt) then he can write "inefficiently".

    I will repeat again. Lee Enfield - obsolete. K98 - outdated. MG-43 is obsolete, along with DP-27. I, as a physician, do not recommend to ANYONE to get a bullet from these types of weapons. 303 British when hitting a femur turns it into SHARDS, and the leg turns into minced meat with fragments. I highly recommend AFFTARA to sit in the Dugout or even a trench when the "outdated and ineffective" 105mm howitzer fires there. Or a 105mm cannon on Leopard 1. The author cannot even correctly cite the performance characteristics, misrepresenting them as much as possible. LEARN THE MATTER. And before talking about how effective and outdated any type of weapon is, at least read about its use. As a maximum, sit under the fire of this weapon. As a person who has been under fire from both MG-42, and DP-27, and under fire from old 120mm mortars, I affirm that there is NOTHING outdated. And they can send to the next world with the same ease as PKM, or new 120mm mortars. And I recommend AFFTARU to sit under the fire of any weapon that he, out of ignorance and inexperience, defines as "outdated and ineffective."

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