Military Review

The Ministry of Defense presented new data on the special operation on the territory of Ukraine

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The Russian Armed Forces continued to strike at the military infrastructure of Ukraine, and 2786 objects have been destroyed since the beginning of the special operation.


During March 9, strikes continued, bombing and assault aviation The Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed 49 military facilities, including: 2 command posts, 6 air defense systems, 4 ammunition and fuel depots, and 37 areas where weapons and military equipment are concentrated.

To date, 90% of Ukrainian airfields have been destroyed, Kyiv has lost combat control of aviation and air defense as a result of the destruction of command posts, radars and S-300, Buk M-1 and S-125 air defense systems. The combat aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was practically destroyed, out of 250 aircraft and helicopters available at the beginning of the special operation, 89 combat aircraft and 57 helicopters were destroyed on the ground and in the air. Part of the combat aircraft flew to Romania and does not take part in hostilities. In recent days, there have been single attempts to sorties by Ukrainian fighters, the Air Force of Ukraine has practically lost trained military pilots of the first and second class.

E-3A aircraft of the AWACS-NATO system were noted to be on duty in the airspace of Poland around the clock, transmitting information to Kiev about the air situation over Ukraine.

In total, during the operation, 2786 objects of the military infrastructure of Ukraine were destroyed (...) among them 953 tank and other armored combat vehicles, 101 multiple launch rocket systems, 351 field artillery pieces and mortars, 718 units of special military vehicles, as well as 93 drones

- said the official representative of the Ministry of Defense Igor Konashenkov.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 9 March 2022 19: 48
    -15
    I would like to believe, but after the conscripts the sediment remained.
    1. mitroha
      mitroha 9 March 2022 19: 54
      +33
      Yes, Harosh is already whining, otherwise they were not in the army. Every general is on his mind, they will find it will be punished exponentially. And the boys will be fine, I hope. And then claims from me will be added to that general
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 9 March 2022 20: 02
        +33
        Quote: Mitroha
        And then claims from me will be added to that general

        After the claims of the Supreme, your shading will not be of interest to the person involved
        1. mitroha
          mitroha 9 March 2022 20: 07
          +7
          Quote: Canecat
          Quote: Mitroha
          And then claims from me will be added to that general

          After the claims of the Supreme, your shading will not be of interest to the person involved

          Perhaps, but here some still argue that the Supreme Commander almost drove the boys into battle himself. Sediment you see they left
          1. Cananecat
            Cananecat 9 March 2022 20: 09
            +6
            Quote: Mitroha
            some still claim

            Apparently they know more than the Supreme ... thought ...
            1. Himalayan
              Himalayan 9 March 2022 22: 08
              -10
              Poroshenko was shown distributing PKM machine guns made in Kyiv at a factory owned by him - "Lenin's Forge".----
              The question is .... why didn’t they charge it ??? In Yugoslavia, all NATO dual-use factories have swelled up! A very painful feeling ... Our generals ... who fit with a cane to walk and feed pigeons .... There can be no breaks for sleep and days off. There are youth
            2. Himalayan
              Himalayan 9 March 2022 22: 08
              -16
              Poroshenko was shown distributing PKM machine guns made in Kyiv at a factory owned by him - "Lenin's Forge".----
              The question is .... why didn’t they charge it ??? In Yugoslavia, all NATO dual-use factories have swelled up! A very painful feeling ... Our generals ..., who are at the right time to walk with a cane and feed pigeons .... There can be no breaks for sleep and days off !!! There are youth
              1. g1v2
                g1v2 9 March 2022 23: 39
                +16
                There are enough goals for now. Riflemen in Ukraine now eat with your ass. Tch Leninskaya smithy in the list of priorities is not in the first place. Now they continue to take out air defense, radar. airfields, all kinds of warehouses, command posts, strikes were made on the tank repair plant in Zhitomir and the Malyshev plant in Kharkov was bombed. Plus, now the main TVD is the elimination of the APU grouping in the Donbass. Tch work there thoroughly. The hands of the VKS will reach the Lenin Forge. There are priorities.
                1. Jager
                  Jager 10 March 2022 09: 32
                  +3
                  and KhZTM it’s a pity and Electrotyazhmash .. Soviet giants ...
                  1. g1v2
                    g1v2 10 March 2022 13: 57
                    +5
                    Decommunization is according to Putin and has the main goal of knocking out or bringing out the Soviet legacy in Ukraine. I.e.
                    1. Huge stocks of Soviet weapons, which one superpower has prepared for war with another superpower.
                    2. enterprises of the Soviet military-industrial complex, which, by chance, after the collapse, remained in Ukraine and work for the Saloreich army. There are many of them - from the Kharkov plant. Malyshev to Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhmash.
                    3. The remains of the Soviet nuclear industry such as turboatom.
                    4. End-of-life nuclear power plant reactors built by Soviet industry. Of the 15 power units, 12 have served their useful life and become simply dangerous in the hands of savages.
                    Ukraine, or what will take its place, should no longer pose a military threat to us in the coming decades.
          2. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 9 March 2022 22: 07
            -8
            Quote: Mitroha
            Sediment you see they have left

            Do not pay attention - these are local "grandmothers from the bench", in which everyone passing by (s) is either a drug addict or a shameful girl, no more, no less. yes hi
          3. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 10 March 2022 03: 22
            +4
            Quote: Mitroha
            that the Supreme Commander almost himself drove the boys into battle. Sediment you see they have left

            Yes, the Supreme was notably encouraged, for this the stars should fly. I think that those who remained in places of permanent deployment will be exemplarily flogged, those who are on the line should not be touched.
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 9 March 2022 20: 24
        -18
        NOT RESPECTED! No one whines. We see the facts! We, the older generation, do not need slogans. Everyone understands that the abscess must be cut out, But not with meat. Where are your children? write. I will wait.
        1. mitroha
          mitroha 9 March 2022 20: 55
          +15
          Nobody whines, that's right. And your children and you - health and peaceful sky
          And this .... 1974 is the older generation?!!!
          Yes, you can’t plow on you, he signed up for the old people laughing only the legs ache, and so we look and drive to football
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 9 March 2022 21: 00
            -8
            This is not right. Lying gives rise to anger towards the authorities. Students and friends are there. So, there is nothing. I can obscene.
            1. mitroha
              mitroha 9 March 2022 21: 11
              +12
              You, I, look for a dialogue is not needed. But I will say this, it won’t take long to get angry, only the anger does not add to the adequacy, but rather the opposite. Therefore, the cold mind, our strongest weapon hi
              1. zadorin1974
                zadorin1974 9 March 2022 21: 17
                +4
                For dialogue, I sent you a number in a personal. If it's dear to you, I can call you back myself .. I have the honor.
            2. Kerensky
              Kerensky 9 March 2022 21: 37
              +7
              Lies give rise to anger towards the authorities. Pupils and friends are there.

              Alex.
              Agree. Although a couple of years younger than you, but now it is no longer a difference .....
              Only "political instructors" are still needed early, - it has been proven by practice.
          2. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 9 March 2022 21: 10
            -3
            Yes, I’m not ashamed of my 48. I can’t stand foodball (I’ve been a Dynamo skier since childhood). It happened that way.
            1. tech3030
              tech3030 10 March 2022 09: 35
              +2
              Minus a person because he doesn’t like football, here are the little people! I can’t stand him, and now what. This is not an appeal but a comment.
      3. evgen1221
        evgen1221 9 March 2022 21: 20
        -8
        Yes, but the name of that general is most likely not to be said.
        1. mitroha
          mitroha 9 March 2022 21: 26
          +6
          Quote: evgen1221
          Yes, but the name of that general is most likely not to be said.

          The main thing is that he, as a general, ends after that, and the boys return home
      4. YOUR
        YOUR 10 March 2022 02: 44
        +1
        Quote: Mitroha
        And the boys will be fine, I hope.

        They shoot and torture their Rada deputies without hesitation.
        And to the generals your claims are up to one place. What will you do? Here, express your fairy, so they don’t look here.
      5. XNUMX%
        XNUMX% 10 March 2022 12: 42
        -1
        Every general has his own mind ...

        Do not write more like this, because it is idiotic. He doesn't even need comments.
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      1. Alien From
        Alien From 9 March 2022 20: 07
        -22
        Soldier! Just not a professional! And is it important!
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 9 March 2022 22: 16
          +7

          Soldier! Just not a professional! And is it important!


          Do you think that once a person signs a contract, he instantly becomes a professional?!

          Yes, even among the officers of a professional, you still need to look.

          The contractor differs from the conscript only in that he serves VOLUNTARY. Everything. And the level of his training depends on the officer of the unit and personal motivation. If the motivation is only money, then no officer will make a professional out of him.

          And why the conscripts went to war, everything is so simple - there was no one else to send. The number of contractors in the army is more show than real numbers. I served under a contract in the 42nd Motor Rifle Division 2003-2007, where the commanders were forced to keep in the state even finished drunks and those who did not come back from vacation for several months just so that the level of contractors in the unit was the required 90% or 95%, otherwise, that half of these contractors were just slobs and alcoholics did not bother anyone.

          Now maybe something has become better, but it is still far from the normal level.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 10 March 2022 05: 54
            +9
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            And why the conscripts went to war, everything is so simple - there was no one else to send.

            The war ended up as follows. Teachings announced. And they began to move troops. Did someone take care not to take conscripts? There was no such team because it will immediately become clear and understandable where and why. Further, the order came even easier, to open the package with the red stripe in ..... that's it. The countdown has begun. Who in such a situation will sort into conscripts and contractors. Yes, no one is given an order to be executed. Further, in the units there are no units where there are either only conscripts or only contract soldiers, unless, of course, this is special forces or the National Guard. Take out of the squad, or calculation or crew to pull out several people at once, the combat potential will be lost.
            In general, everything is as always. In words, nothing matches in deeds.
            1. 28st region
              28st region 10 March 2022 12: 45
              +1
              In tank crickets, this is the tank commander, in the m / st it is usually a commander, a gunner, an operator and a mechanic driver, an artillery crew, a contract gunner, and the rest of the term. Well, how in such conditions to leave the contract to remove the deadline. The bad thing is that they lie when they lose the edges.
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 12 March 2022 08: 58
                +1
                Few people understand what you write.
      2. Dmitry Potapov
        Dmitry Potapov 9 March 2022 20: 27
        +16
        Conscript conscript strife!
      3. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 9 March 2022 20: 53
        +17
        I remember myself in 1977 I was a conscript soldier. For me, defending the Motherland was and is a sacred duty. Then ask me, I would have been very sad if I had not been taken to such an operation.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 9 March 2022 23: 26
          +3
          Dear Alexander. It was a different country and different concepts. Maybe I’m not normal in our time, but my cub went on an urgent basis, from the Perm Territory to Chita (uch 644) then near Birobidzhan. My wife pecked me every day for obstinacy (you can I had to mow it down). My son came from a term as a ml. give the full layout. I will be grateful to the division commander all my life. On the last day I ordered to write out a ridge and travel documents.
          1. Synoid
            Synoid 10 March 2022 03: 26
            +3
            Motherland is always one concept, it is a pity that you do not understand this.
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      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 9 March 2022 20: 11
        +7
        Yes, they were shot down in the Chernigov region. One pilot was killed, one was captured. So far, only on these there is something.
      2. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus 9 March 2022 21: 46
        +11
        What does it mean in what areas? In the photo one downed drying. It is not known whose, it is not known what happened to the pilot. And a pair of beautifully weighing brake parachutes, apparently with the expectation of complete idiots. Another stupid Bandera fake, for the same stupid Bandera, allegedly about their great victory.
        1. usr01
          usr01 9 March 2022 22: 01
          +9
          Quote: Rusticolus
          braking parachutes

          thanks! but at first I didn’t pay attention that the parachute brake!
          I myself probably slow down from all sorts of news and "news" ...
        2. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 9 March 2022 22: 19
          +4
          No, it’s not fake, on YouTube and telegram dill channels there is even a video of interrogations of our pilots, and not only pilots.

          But we will ask later, after the war, and now it must be completed with its victory.
        3. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 10 March 2022 02: 52
          +6
          Quote: Rusticolus
          And a pair of beautifully weighing brake parachutes, apparently with the expectation of complete idiots. Another stupid Bandera fake

          Would anyone believe that the pilots of the downed plane released a drag parachute to land softly?
          Who are the Bandera people counting on with their performances? fool I saw downed MiGs. Brake remained in place. One fell out - from a blow, probably, but with a "sausage". And here, like a sheet for drying, hung out ... fool

          Well, something, but I can distinguish a braking parachute from my native D-6.
      3. JIaIIoTb
        JIaIIoTb 9 March 2022 22: 15
        +6
        Traveler, would you go somewhere. Got the fake guns. If you don't understand parachutes, don't fantasize.
      4. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 9 March 2022 22: 15
        +8
        Quote: Pytnik
        but I'm for the bitter but the truth

        Well, it doesn’t smell like the truth yet, but rather it smells of a certain substance that such organisms sometimes produce beyond plan. And here it is, olesha:
        not just
        So can write either an illiterate Selyuk, or a foreigner, hastily trained in the language. It remains to choose what is closer to the rotten darling.
        1. sustav75
          sustav75 10 March 2022 05: 56
          -2
          How did you get boors - uryakals! All Russian language teachers! You still have no losses. Tell the mothers of the dead.
    4. Roman Efremov
      Roman Efremov 9 March 2022 22: 02
      -7
      I will support - the sediment remains. It turns out - the Supreme was set up in front of the whole country.
    5. Momotomba
      Momotomba 9 March 2022 22: 22
      +11
      Quote: Alien From
      I would like to believe, but after the conscripts the sediment remained.

      Lord officers! Do you feel sorry for a conscript at 18, but a contract soldier at 22 is no longer there? And the captain at 30??? Everyone needs to be protected, but it doesn’t always work out ... And the direct commanders are not always to blame for this ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 9 March 2022 22: 50
        +5
        Quote: Momotomba
        Do you feel sorry for a conscript at 18, but a contract soldier at 22 is no longer there? And the captain at 30???

        The contractor and the officer chose their own fate, and the conscript is like a forced person, they don’t ask him if he wants to go to war, or how.
        Quote: Momotomba
        And not always direct commanders are to blame for this ...

        As one told, their entire company wrote a report with a request to send them to Chechnya. So, comrade captain built them and with the words: "I will return you, idiots, to all mothers and folders alive and healthy ...", tore all these pieces of paper.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 10 March 2022 03: 08
          +5
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          As one told, their entire company wrote a report with a request to send them to Chechnya.

          Of our two 10th graders, 12 or 15 people wrote applications to Afghanistan at the military registration and enlistment office. What is interesting - of those who wrote, not one hit. Then, towards the end of the service, I found out that such people are weeded out first of all - you never know ... He had a fight with the girl, "life is over", he will ask for it in Afghanistan. And it will be there, like a beacon, to shine, to climb under the bullets ... And then just do it later, and will regret that it asked for it. And it will be the other way around - because of a stone you cannot lift this, you will hide from your shadow.
          Here they sifted out.
          1. Dikson
            Dikson 10 March 2022 06: 02
            +2
            We also had such a picture .. - but the boys from that one, the eldest for a year, - got caught, everyone returned home .. then they were knocked out - some bandits, some - vodka ..
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 10 March 2022 10: 42
              +1
              Quote: Dikson
              everyone returned home .. then they were knocked out - some bandits, some - vodka ..

              It was, unfortunately. Five of us from one company returned home. We lived at a distance of 30-40 minutes by car from each other. Now I am left alone.
          2. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 10 March 2022 09: 51
            -3
            Of our two 10th graders, 12 or 15 people wrote applications to Afghanistan at the military registration and enlistment office.

            Wow, how the communists brainwashed the boys.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 10 March 2022 10: 39
              +2
              Quote: Alex Justice
              Of our two 10th graders, 12 or 15 people wrote applications to Afghanistan at the military registration and enlistment office.

              Wow, how the communists brainwashed the boys.

              Simply, unlike today's 11th graders, we knew what the Motherland was. And the communists had nothing to do with it in the 80s, it wasn’t 1919, it wasn’t the Civil War. The Communists are somewhere in Moscow on their own, and we in Jalalabad, Khost and Kandahar are on our own.
        2. Momotomba
          Momotomba 10 March 2022 07: 03
          0
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          As one told, their entire company wrote a report with a request to send them to Chechnya. So, comrade captain built them and with the words: "I will return you, idiots, to all mothers and folders alive and healthy ...", tore all these pieces of paper.

          In 79, every one of the cadets of VVMU them. Frunze wrote a report with a request to send them to Afghanistan to fulfill their international duty ... The political officers worked well hi
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          The contractor and the officer chose their own fate

          And, following your logic, did you really dream of making war? I highly doubt it...
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 10 March 2022 07: 11
            +2
            Quote: Momotomba
            Quote: Mordvin 3

            The contractor and the officer chose their own fate


            And, following your logic, did you really dream of making war? I highly doubt it...

            And following your logic, the army should not fight at all. The question "why such an army" can be omitted as rhetorical ...
            1. Momotomba
              Momotomba 10 March 2022 10: 27
              +1
              Quote: Repellent
              And following your logic, the army should not fight at all. The question "why such an army" can be omitted as rhetorical ...

              And where did I write that the army should not fight? If it's not difficult, please show me.
              I'm just saying that participation in hostilities is the specifics of work, and not an object of dreams.
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 10 March 2022 10: 41
                0
                Quote: Momotomba
                And where did I write that the army should not fight? If not difficult, please show

                You didn't write that. I allowed myself to slightly extrapolate the course of your reasoning: the military "do not dream" of fighting. The ideal army in this case and from their point of view would be an army that never fights.

                If I'm wrong somewhere, please correct me.

                Quote: Momotomba
                participation in hostilities there is specific workand not an object of dreams

                Yes, in this form, your idea does not raise questions for me.
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            1. Repellent
              Repellent 10 March 2022 07: 26
              +2
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              As I left my feet in this fucking Afghanistan, so now one question is, what the hell were we doing there?

              Don't tell Tatra, it will slightly flatten her beckoning world with "the best country in the world." Sarcasm, if anything. I have two classmates "across the river" remained, one of them was my friend.
        3. Thompson
          Thompson 11 March 2022 15: 39
          0
          However, the fact itself has a place to be - you yourself wanted to go there! And would the officer be to blame?
          Why did you decide that today's mothers did not want to?
          And if you were captured, you would begin to say, I didn’t know where they would send me, no?
    6. Volga073
      Volga073 10 March 2022 00: 31
      +3
      And conscripts also have patriots!
      Not everyone has "Echo of Matza" hanging on their ears.
    7. Maz
      Maz 10 March 2022 09: 15
      +1
      Here's what's left of them
      and the threat of a huge cauldron near Odessa, then to the north, with a cut of the western regions from the right-bank Ukraine
    8. Vladimir Petroff
      Vladimir Petroff 10 March 2022 09: 17
      -2
      Now our cheers patriots will tell you how to fight)))
  2. Vovanych007
    Vovanych007 9 March 2022 19: 52
    +5
    Agree. The news about conscripts greatly blurred the whole picture ...
  3. Vadim237
    Vadim237 9 March 2022 19: 54
    -9
    I would like to hear from the Ministry of Defense information about our losses in people and equipment.
    1. mitroha
      mitroha 9 March 2022 19: 58
      +21
      Quote: Vadim237
      I would like to hear from the Ministry of Defense information about our losses in people and equipment.

      It is prohibited by law, only if the MO voluntarily tells. But no one will give you a true picture now, because a gift to the enemy
      1. Genry
        Genry 9 March 2022 20: 10
        +3
        Quote: Mitroha
        only if the MO voluntarily tells.

        Well then let...
        Quote: Mitroha
        But no one will give you a true picture now, because a gift to the enemy

        Vice versa. Immediately disavows all coming out fakes.
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 9 March 2022 22: 11
          0
          And maybe there is a plus in these fakes. Well, they will say, all kirdyk to you Bandera, so they all at once and scatter into holes. And the longer they believe that there is just a little bit left before victory, the easier and more they can be killed all in a crowd.
      2. ZeeD
        ZeeD 9 March 2022 20: 10
        0
        There is also a difficulty: go and count, given how the troops are stretched out and what kind of military operations are active
      3. Roman Efremov
        Roman Efremov 9 March 2022 22: 05
        -5
        At the end of the first week of hostilities, the Ministry of Defense spoke in detail about our losses in people and equipment. The second week has passed - silence will cause rumors and speculation.
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 9 March 2022 22: 08
          0
          Quote: Roman Efremov
          The second week has passed - silence

          No one was obligated to you in regular reporting. Let people work, don't interfere, have a conscience.

          Quote: Roman Efremov
          will cause rumors and speculation

          Well, for those who have no sense of self-preservation, they recently passed the right law. Too soft for my liking, but better than nothing at all.
          1. Roman Efremov
            Roman Efremov 10 March 2022 19: 46
            -2
            Stupidest comment!
            Not in front of me personally, but in front of the people of Russia - this is the time. No one was obligated - the Ministry of Defense itself decided to make public the losses of the first week, voluntarily - these are two. How can I interfere with work - these are three. The law deals with fakes and lies - what does my interest in TRUE information from the RF Ministry of Defense have to do with this.
            Do not write more nonsense, and even in such a peremptory tone, I beg you!
            1. Repellent
              Repellent 10 March 2022 20: 21
              +2
              Quote: Roman Efremov
              Not in front of me personally, but in front of the people of Russia - this is the time

              Do not equate yourself with the People of Russia. I am also part of the People of Russia, if anything.

              Quote: Roman Efremov
              The law deals with fakes and lies - what does my interest in TRUE information from the RF Ministry of Defense have to do with this

              The very fact of such interest is interesting. Smart is enough yes

              Quote: Roman Efremov
              Do not write more nonsense, and even in such a peremptory tone, I beg you!

              Uff... I'm bored with you, I want to sleep with you... go.
              1. Roman Efremov
                Roman Efremov 10 March 2022 20: 59
                -1
                A fool is always bored with smart people..........
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 10 March 2022 21: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: Roman Efremov
                  Fool with smart is always bored

                  Estessno laughing

                  Clever (and therefore - ugly), and even a man ... and why did you surrender to me, tell me, please? I'm all right with the orientation, thank Destiny yes
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 10 March 2022 11: 29
          -3
          I don't trust their numbers, they need to be increased by 30%.
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 10 March 2022 21: 09
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            I don't trust their numbers, they need to be increased by 30%

            Fake law, cello, a.k.a. fakie lawаkah (a [ei] Hey) looks at you with interest what
        3. Thompson
          Thompson 11 March 2022 15: 41
          0
          Do you think a lot of Americans talked about their losses?
          Did the SBU tell a lot about their losses? Don't whine.
      4. Revolver
        Revolver 10 March 2022 06: 47
        +1
        Quote: Mitroha
        no one will give you a true picture now because it is a gift to the enemy

        And when was it different?
        Quote: Otto von Bismarck

        Most lie after the hunt, during the warand before the elections.
        smart was muzhik elector.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 9 March 2022 19: 59
      -14
      Vadim237 - Yes, they will peck you for such a question, and especially "vigilant" ones will start cutting off the number of the Prosecutor General's Office .... wassat So hide away wassat
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 9 March 2022 21: 29
        -11
        Oh, they will start to cut off, kakzhe, wait. Here the other day Kiselyov was caught live on the juggling of facts and spreading lies, he wrote in detail on the site what the essence is. And according to the new laws, Kiselev is 15 years old for this. So what? On the site in a personal received a bunch of negativity. They love here as a US citizen Kiselev teaches Russian patriotism on TV, they are already thrilled. And along the way, I was the only one who wrote a complaint to the Prosecutor General's Office. So here some sit mixed with bots.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 March 2022 11: 32
        -1
        According to the new laws, I have nothing to present on my issue, and if anything, yes, I have friends in the Moscow prosecutor's office.
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      1. MrFYGY
        MrFYGY 9 March 2022 20: 34
        +15
        And when did the Americans announce their losses in Desert Storm?
        1. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 10 March 2022 01: 38
          +13
          Note that you do not dispute the figures that are transmitted to the United States, and you give the answer at the level of the kindergarten "Itself is like that." Here is roughly your answer. Do you have any other arguments?
          The losses of our troops during Desert Storm, of course, were published AFTER it ended. And Desert Storm's losses are as follows: 147 killed and died from wounds received in combat (KIA DOW), 3 more were missing, 151 died NOT as a result of enemy actions (air / car accidents, and others). Total 298 people for the ENTIRE operation Desert Storm.
          By the way, both the United States and others consider both the armies of the DPR / LPR and the Russian Army to be the "Russian Army". So the losses are really cumulative.
          Moreover, keep in mind that US and ISRAEL intelligence are operating against your troops. For example, it was the Mossad who warned Zelensky and his Security Service that Kadyrov sent his nukers to kill him. Result? One landing was destroyed in the air, the second landed and was caught and destroyed one at a time:-(. WITH THE ACTIVE ASSISTANCE OF THE POPULATION OF Kyiv. It was the "innocent civilians" who brought the SBU to the Chechens in the OBOLON region of Kyiv.

          Intelligence agencies of both the United States and Israel are ACTIVELY working against Russia, which have HUGE connections among Russian oligarchs and law enforcement officers. Everyone collects data from you. Both the British and the Germans, everyone. But only American and Israeli intelligence OPENLY share information with the Ukronats. We talk about it more or less openly.
          Of course, you gave me minuses, well, let your salaries rise from these minuses, so that everyone who threw me a minus will have 100 bucks a month. But so far, to my great regret, you cannot refute these "data" of the American and Ukrainian media. I hate the Ukroscots more than even the Nazis. Because in this case, the lackey turned out to be even worse than the master. I sincerely hope you can soon. I openly said that I do not believe in the figures given by the American media. And the Pentagon, the CIA and the FBI are silent. Officially not supporting or refuting the journalists. And the press in the USA shows the same buildings in Kiev and Kharkov from different angles, and the same abandoned and burned cars with open doors (that is, the crew safely escaped) from different angles.
          1. MrFYGY
            MrFYGY 10 March 2022 04: 24
            +2
            In fairness, I put a plus initially.

            My statement is an allusion to the senselessness and harmfulness of the statement in their losses during military operations. The way our MO did it, it was stupid.

            Other than that, I'm more or less inclined to agree with you.
            Except for the Kadyrovites, there are not even corpses, and the Ukrainians would show them 100%.

            I think it will soon be necessary not to worry about wages, but about contentment.
            1. Baron pardus
              Baron pardus 10 March 2022 04: 39
              0
              I'm sorry, Sir, but WE in the US don't have to worry about allowance just yet. As for the cards, I went through them once. Late 80s, early 90s. Yes, bread and sugar in Kyiv were rationed. Bread = because the villagers from the collective farms came to the shops, bought bales of bread and fed them to their domestic pigs (and not the collective farms). Moonshine was made from sugar. We had enough bread on the cards. Sugar remained in abundance, given that both mom and grandmother loved to bake cakes, and muffins, and biscuits, and honey cakes, and cookies (remember the forms with cookies nuts and mushrooms? So they baked it, but there was still a lot of sugar left and we it was sold for a rather big price to idiots who wanted to poison themselves with moonshine - forward and with a song.
      2. poquello
        poquello 9 March 2022 20: 46
        +7
        Quote: Baron Pardus
        Up to 211 tanks

        everyone is lying, but you continue to sincerely hope that the sediment will remain
        1. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 10 March 2022 01: 39
          +2
          I am not a scout, I have NO clearance. But I sincerely hope they are lying. And the sediment was left from how clumsily, through the 5th point, your MO planned the operation.
          1. poquello
            poquello 10 March 2022 01: 44
            0
            Quote: Baron Pardus
            .. how clumsily, through the 5th point, your MO planned the operation.

            ) let's see, "it's not evening yet"
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 10 March 2022 06: 59
            0
            Quote: Baron Pardus
            how clumsily, through the 5th point, your MO planned the operation
            Do you think our current Lloyd Austin and Mark Milley could do better? To ensure diversity and compulsory training of CRT military personnel is about them.
            Let's go Brandon!
            #FJB
            1. Baron pardus
              Baron pardus 10 March 2022 07: 49
              +1
              I think that ours would already be not only in Kyiv, but in Lvov. Or rather, what would be left of Lviv.
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 10 March 2022 13: 07
                +1
                So that's the whole problem. Mattresses carpet
                and partially, of course, the WTO, having plowed everything and everything then deprived of life, the territory would have been taken. You lived there and now you hate it. Do you hate everyone? Unreasonable children, very small ones too? Should they also be razed to the ground? Russians can't do that. That's why everything is slow. Protect the lives of civilians.
                1. Baron pardus
                  Baron pardus 10 March 2022 19: 42
                  +1
                  What does "I hate" or "I hate" have to do with it. There is an enemy. There is a goal to be achieved. There is nothing more. Everything that interferes with the achievement of the goal and the fulfillment of the task must be neutralized one way or another. And I didn't live there. I lived in the USSR. And this is not the USSR from the word at all. If an enemy, for example, Al Qaeda, puts mortars in the courtyard of a kindergarten, and from there they fire at our base or our checkpoint (it was in Iraq UNDER ME, they covered our guys with mortars that were installed in the school yard), then the choice is simple: either the lives of our soldiers, or the lives of enemy civilians who help the Al Qaeda in any way they can. When, all over Facebook, there are pictures like a Ukrainian “peaceful”, wearing a snack for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalion that is prepared at home, by the very same Armed Forces of Ukraine who put howitzers in the courtyards of houses, then the concept of “civilian population” ceases to exist. How many Armed Forces of Ukraine and National Battalions will fight without a "peacekeeper" who not only feeds them, arms them, supplies them with ammunition, but also covers them. Photos of an old woman with a bunch of bread loaves and the caption "Grandma Maria is baking bread for National Battalions and Ukrainian army" proves once again that the concept of "civilians" is a very vague term. Will many national battalions fight without food? Medical aid? Remember how the mothers of these National Battalion gangsters organized a fundraiser "For my son for a zbroyu, Schaub vin poyihav, separs are brought in, and brought home, and a TV monitor, and a refrigerator, that and odizhi prYveze." Forgot? After all, these mothers are also "peaceful". Here they wear all sorts of snacks by the National Battalion, and then they are surprised, "What about us?" I explain on my fingers: you need to save the lives of YOUR SOLDIERS, and not the enemy "peace". By the way, it was the peacekeeper who hung the banner "Glory to Adolf Hitler, the liberator of the Ukrainian people" over the city hall of Lvov. By the way, read about the fight against Bandera gangs after the Great Patriotic War. They would not have been driven until the 50s if the "peacekeeper" had not helped them. Assistance to terrorists is assessed as terrorism. Aiding bandits is assessed as banditry. Who is more dangerous: a military officer or an "Azovets" or a man who makes tanks, ammunition, and equipment for them?
                  1. Essex62
                    Essex62 11 March 2022 00: 54
                    -1
                    Everything you wrote is wrong. There will be no Russian soldiers, unlike yours, to wash children, women, old people. Even to complete the task. Then we will not be any different from you. You lived in the USSR but fled, and if not yourself, because you were small, then you served in the enemy army. Judging by some of your posts. For me personally, you are an enemy, although you write the right words. I am a Soviet person, to this day. And you are on the other side.
                    1. Baron pardus
                      Baron pardus 11 March 2022 01: 57
                      0
                      You know, in the USA there is a very clever proverb. Do not assume, because you are making an ASS out of U and ME. This play on words is not translated. And the literal translation is "Do not try to assume about me what and how, by doing this you make a donkey out of yourself and me." Well let's first
                      a) I escaped in September 1991. When it already became clear to everyone, especially to my grandfather, that "That's it, khan, these" bad people, these female dogs ", they will betray everything, steal, sell, drink, and what they can't, they will spoil. Well, we can't live without Stalin." How the people VERY LITTLE later, galloped for vouchers, how the people listened in delight "We don't need to develop anything, we will sell oil, and we will buy the rest", how NOROT ate and did not wince "Well, 50-60 million people will die, so what, they are in the market didn't fit in." You ate it all and didn't choke. By the way, who on TV charged water cans from Kashperovsky with magical energy? Germans? Americans? No you. Received a Soviet education. This is now a clinic. I did not leave the USSR, but from that muddy swamp into which it turned. By the way, how many of you tried to defend the USSR? How much did the SCCB support? We sat at home, thinking "with all these problems, kiss my ass, my hut is on the edge." About how the Soviet flag was lowered from the Kremlin, but ... let's not say whose it was raised. About how the Lenin Mausoleum for the Victory Parade is boarded up with boards of a certain color (I would say who used these colors, but I already received a warning for trolling), we will not talk either. Do you protest a lot about all this? I'm sure not. It's much easier to be brave and principled on a forum.
                      b) You know, there is such a good proverb. "The death of the overlord releases the vassal from his oath." The USSR, whose passport I received, is dead. Or rather, they killed him. Its own citizens and elite. I am free from oath. Therefore, according to even the strictest law of honor, I have the right to serve anyone. Like the Americans, like the Martians. And my question is this. Here you say what kind of Soviet person you are. Why are you paying taxes to the openly anti-Soviet government. Dissonance. Or "Here I turn on the Soviet man, then I turn it off." If you are a Soviet person, then you should be turned away by what has been happening in Russia for the last 40 years (the rot did not start in 91, but long before that). But why didn't you go anywhere? They did not join an opposition party, such as the National Bolsheviks. And you continue to be a loyal citizen of the country under a very specific flag.
                      c) Clever learn from his own mistakes, genius - from strangers, a representative of the ancient family DeBille does not learn at all. I'll ask a question. You have not been taught anything about how the "civilian population" treated in the Caucasus, Central Asia, Moldova, the Baltic states, Banderlogia with the Russians. How is it with "proletarian internationalism"? Oh yes, there is such a proletarian and internationalism "Russians, don't leave, we need slaves." But you, of course, do not know all this and have not seen it. No, and you know, and saw, just decided to forget. Exactly like those Jews who support Bandera in Ukraine. Somewhere in hell, writhing in the cauldron from agony forever and ever, Adolf Alloisovich crap his head on the corner of the cauldron and cries, "I never taught them anything."
                      c) Are the Europeans grateful to you for the liberation from the Nazis? Yes, the same Poles, whom the Nazis nagenocide by 20%. How much help did the USSR send free of charge to all sorts of cesspools - bantustans? Apart from "friends in the social camp and progressive humanity." Did you get a lot of thanks? They ran to lie down under the United States faster than their own squeal. Everything. Brothers Slavs in the first place. The fraternal Arab peoples are not far behind them.
                      Was Afghan not enough for you when you came, schools, hospitals were opened, and the local "peacekeeper" killed you in the back and collaborated with dushmans? Was it not enough for you the same Central Asia, which the Russians pulled out of the dense pre-Middle Ages and who willingly killed the Russians and then howled about their "original culture and Russian occupiers"? You didn't understand anything.

                      Kindness and gentleness are mistaken for weakness. What did Bismarck say? "We will treat the Austrians like an obstinate wife, FIRST BEAT HARD, and then love hard." Russia has been liberal and soft-spoken throughout its history. With the same Finns and Poles. Just imagine that in some British, or French or Spanish province, there is an uprising, and tens of thousands of representatives of the titular nation were killed. Do you think they would leave something? No. Cut to the last man. In fact, it's hard to judge. The Poles did not spare a single Russian in Warsaw. No children, no women, no old people. And when they began to be mischievous with them, they realized that nothing would happen to them, and it would be possible to repeat it. And they repeated it long and tediously.

                      Remember, ENEMY civilians are first of all ENEMY, and then civilians. They feed, clothe, equip, treat the enemy army. They collect money "for zbroi until the son of shob wine poishov separyv vbyvaty, she brought the belongings, and the television, she brought the refrigerator, she brought the clothes, the stench will not be necessary for the arrived separas." Therefore, "mirnyak" is a legend, a farce. You will not be seen as liberators, but as those who "entered Bogdan" the fact that Bogdan was in Azov and killed Russians and looted does not bother anyone. "Bogdan miy kum buv". Therefore, as Bismarck said, "The war must be waged ONLY for the sake of either acquiring resources, be it territory, industry, infrastructure, population, or indemnity, or to protect YOUR resources." Moreover, in a war, a soldier has only TWO tasks: "Complete the task and achieve victory", "Return home alive and with all parts of the body." The soldier has NO other tasks. At all. Of course, no one needs to tyrannize enemy civilians just for the sake of showing off, these are your future subjects. In addition, soldiers who begin to arbitrarily loot, kill and rape are no longer soldiers, and not an army, but an ordinary gang and rabble. But you can't goof off either. The life of ONE own soldier is more precious than the life of 5000 strangers.

                      You may consider me as an enemy. I sincerely hope that you get paid for this. I am not cold and not hot from your look. But to call yourself a Soviet person while living and paying taxes in an Anti-Soviet country, where shit masterpieces such as "Bastards", "White Tiger", "Hunting for a Unicorn", "Burnt by the Sun" are made for STATE grandmothers ... By the way, to "Brest Fortress" and The state (since it is anti-Soviet) did not give money to the “Panfilovites”. Collected by volunteers, and even the creators of War Thunder helped. But the state gave money to "bastards" and "shit masterpiece about the suffering of innocent Crimean Tatars under the yoke of communists" ... You are up to the Soviet person. about the same as me before Stalin and Bismarck. You can say anything. But the evidence is ACTIONS.
                      1. Essex62
                        Essex62 11 March 2022 02: 04
                        +2
                        I will give you a short answer to your very voluminous and emotional text. Firstly, I defended the White House at 93. I caught both a shell shock and a hole in the body. And yes, I live in this not a cozy world, but I feel like a stranger in it. As in the occupied territory. Maybe it was a waste of time to stay alive. But he didn't run anywhere.
                        And to see in Russians, on the other hand, as the population of an enemy country, the upbringing of a Bolshevik does not allow me. request
                      2. Baron pardus
                        Baron pardus 11 March 2022 02: 09
                        +1
                        Sir. If what you said is true. Then I stand in front of you at attention, salute, and am ready to print my post, on good quality paper, sprinkle it with salt and devour it. As Sifu Spivey told us. "If you said something, then be prepared to eat your own words." At your discretion, with a glass of water or not. If what you said is true, then it's my fault. I beg your pardon. No sarcasm or irony.
                      3. Essex62
                        Essex62 11 March 2022 02: 12
                        0
                        What's the point of thinking? A dinosaur is a dinosaur. We will die soon. And with the help of the Kremlin lads, even faster.
                      4. Baron pardus
                        Baron pardus 11 March 2022 02: 34
                        0
                        You know sir. I also feel like a stranger. I have already written about how many different people and cultures have influenced me. So I just live. The relatives are alive, there is a wife, no children, the wife is sick in the female part. The parents are still alive and in their right mind. I also live. Only sometimes I feel that I have already died, and the body, out of habit, goes to work, eats, sleeps, reads ... and there is emptiness inside. There is simply no reason to live, with the exception of the famous "You won't wait," as Rabinovich said :-).

                        "Dark, Dark as a grave. My heart is dead. I am just a slave to this decay. Still I am alive, but I do I feel dead?"

                        This world, this orgy of idiocy and madness is so alien to me that I increasingly recall the famous "Giant meteor, please, just end it all". From the series "Burn, Lord, nothing can be fixed here."

                        "I don't live here
                        I'm just like a stranger
                        And my mind is
                        So full of hate and anger
                        I can tell you
                        My life is just an empty hollow

                        I can't stay here
                        I am slowly dying
                        and found nothing
                        That makes sense to try it
                        I can tell you
                        My life is just an empty hollow"


                        As for the "Kremlin-Oligakhrov clique", well, damn it, you yourself wanted "capitalism to drive out the commies and live like in the West." Not you personally, but in the sense of "ya'all" but I remember very well the conversations that my friends' parents had, quietly, in the kitchens in the late 80s, early 90s. I remember everything perfectly. So very few people came to the defense of the USSR then. Now, in percentage terms, much more of the population has come to the defense of the Bandera Nazi regime.
                        My grandfather said to me, "Look. A bunch of patriots are fighting against a horde of traitor-mercenaries for the USSR, and not just traitors, but ARMY traitors, who, by the way, took the oath of the USSR, that is, they ALREADY earned a tower for treason, and the rest of the herd sits at home and waiting for whose side to go over to and for whom, in which case to run and express loyal feelings. Look, Dimka, and remember. This is what the People are like without an ideology and a Leader. Without faith in anything other than greed."
                      5. Essex62
                        Essex62 11 March 2022 13: 17
                        +1
                        I understand you. And there is no place to return and there is no life.
                        That everyone wanted capitalism is not true. Most do not understand how it got there. And realizing they were horrified, but adapted. The core lost the working class, it allowed these whisperers in the kitchen to create the prerequisites for restoration. It was he who, for the most part, ate bitter and forgot that he is the basis of socialism, that he must be defended. Complete relaxation in a "classless" society. And anyway, it seems to me that the victory of the contra was purely technical, on points. I mean, they had equipment, but we didn’t even have anything to burn it with. Shooter only. Moreover, to this day it is not known which of the boxes was naughty at us from the bridge. What are the crews? Someone else's.
                        And so all the legitimacy was on our side. The highest authority and vice-president of the USSR.
                        All as always in history. Something falls on the scales with a small weight and ...
                      6. Baron pardus
                        Baron pardus 11 March 2022 18: 57
                        -1
                        You know sir. I'm not even sure they wanted capitalism. Why? But because these representatives of the ancient DeBille family simply did not understand what capitalism is. Even though they were warned. The funny thing is that a lot of what was said on Soviet TV about capitalism turned out to be TRUE. No, not that "Negroes in America do not eat up", namely the relationship between people and how society works. They did NOT understand that with the freedom to open their own shop, comes responsibility for it, and the money invested is unlikely to be returned. But even in the US, 75% of new businesses are completely bankrupt within 3 years. And of the rest, half will die in another 2 years.
                        They did not understand that they could be fired ... for everything. Up to the notorious "Sweaty palms". They did not understand that under capitalism, you need to plow. Because there are no jobs for everyone, and the capitalist needs to squeeze the maximum out of the worker, nothing personal, just business. The capitalist wants to get the maximum return for his money, just as any worker, coming to the store, wants to get the maximum product for his money. So replacing you if you don't "Arbeiten" is easy, and you don't even need to explain anything. Namely, few of us are accustomed to plow. Which manifested itself when, instead of organizing production, people rushed to dangle to Turkey and Poland and shuttle clothes, singed, but with a "label".

                        They wanted "Dzhynsu, with a label", "Zhuyka", "Pepsy" and a parnukha. Well, at the level of the Papuans, who changed the earth for shiny glass beads. The same intellectual level. As if they did not have a Soviet education, indeed one of the best in the world. However, I am little surprised. After the same people, who received a very good technical education, first ran to charge cans from Kashperovsky on TV (grandfather and grandmother grabbed the head, both were fans of all kinds of herbs and tinctures, but to charge cans of water with "healing energy" on TV , it's not just a bottom, it's a broken bottom.And then, all these people, who also received an excellent education, rushed into the church in a crowd.HAND-FACE, HEAD-WALL.

                        "They should drink and eat in three throats day and night. Three times a genius - they cannot be helped"

                        And grandfather Joseph, he vaccinated me against love for "labochki" when I was 11-12 years old. Grandfather Joseph brought home two pairs of jeans. He says to me - "Here, I took you two pairs, one - Polish, others, American. But you know, they are not cheap, one will have to be returned. I sealed the labels with adhesive tape. Try on jeans." measured. Both were normal, but on some the material was a little softer. I checked, on the advice of my grandfather, the seams, the seams are strong. Well, I chose the pair where the material, although thick, was softer. Turned out to be Polish. Since then, I haven’t looked at the labels, especially after my grandfather told how much the Polish ones cost him and how much the American ones cost him. I also didn’t understand what for Pepsi when there is Baikal, and what for Fanta when there is Pinocchio :-) I didn’t like these right away.
                        Somewhere I read about how some kind of our actor, Soviet. Decided to poke around. He took a bottle of whiskey, poured moonshine into it, slightly tinted with tea, invited all this "bohemian" party to his place, and they drank this "whiskey", shook their heads with smart faces and said "This is a taste, how can they do that in this country "?
                        And society in the USSR was not classless. All sorts of Secretaries of the District Committee / City Committee, SAVSEM lived differently than turners, locksmiths, teachers, and even doctors and professors. We had a neighbor, Neimelman, Doctor of Science, worked in space communications, just like Zhvanetsky's "Hello, is this an institute for testing missile orientation in vacuum?" So, he barely had enough for Zhaporozhets. By the way, having arrived in America, he managed to obtain 17 patents before retiring. Within 3 years, as I learned the language, I received a 6-figure salary. I think that's the reason. That the party nomenklatura, doing nothing and not producing material goods, lived better than both the proletariat and the "intelligentsia". That people simply saw how family members of such functionaries dress, and how the rest of the population dresses. After that, it’s even ridiculous to talk about some kind of “equality” and “classless society”. As Golda Meyer said, "To make a country great, make THREE professions prestigious: Soldier, Doctor and Teacher." Namely, these professions were NOT prestigious. Or rather, they were, only now they were paid so that Full Pe.
                        Then she said "Equate corruption with treason, And corrupt officials - with traitors, up to the 7th knee." About corruption in the USSR, I can not tell you. You, Sir, are older than me and know more.
                        Further "And work, work, work, because no one except yourself needs your country." Which was also not done. Even in factories they worked carelessly, and carried everything that was not nailed to the floor "Bring every nail from work, you are the boss here and not a guest"

                        Grandfather Joseph said "In England and the Germans, and in most European countries, decency and law-abidingness were driven into the population, with batogs and gallows, and at least 5 generations in a row, but we were unlucky, after a normal tsar, some kind of rag came. And they didn’t teach the people neither to order, nor to the law, nor to respect, nor to anything, and these Goldsteins were very doubtful as Russians. This happens only in India, when the population is Hindus, and the viceroy is an Englishman. And we have tsars - Germans , if they were normal, like Frederick the Great, it would be very good, but we had one of the most worthless, since in Germany they didn’t represent anything worthwhile, and the population was some kind of salad bowl, and no one cared about it all set called Solyanka National Team, to make a united people". Grandfather was very well-read. After the war, he began to read almost voraciously. Although he remained in the Border Troops and retired as a lieutenant colonel. So he told me a lot. By the way, he noticed one interesting thing. Even in the tiny German principalities, even in the Italian city-states, the nobles remained primarily GERMANS and ITALIANS. Even in occupied Ireland and Scotland, the nobles remained Irish and Scots. First of all, they spoke their OWN language, and were patriots of their own country and culture, and did not look at any country or culture with admiration. Even the German Ritter, who has an old estate of wealth and land with a gulkin's nose, did not say, "But in the blessed and cultured country of X, everything is magnificent and better than we have in Germany." Even an Irish nobleman, proud of being an Irishman, did not go to France "for culture". He knew his culture and was proud of it. But the Russian nobles... Exactly the opposite. Moreover, neither in England, nor in Germany, nor in Italy, the nobles of their own kings were killed without trial and investigation. Karl was the first to have a sekirboshka after the trial.
                        But the Russian tsars were killed by the nobles secretly, like murderers, and even with the money of the British. This happened only in Russia and ... the Ottoman Empire. Maybe that's where all the problems come from? And the admiration for the "blessed" West in Russia is historical. The nobility and the intelligentsia did not want to be Russians, but wanted to be Europeans. And they were despised. And they did the right thing, how can you respect a person who, with all his behavior, shows that he despises his country and culture, while not changing his citizenship. This is already from the series "You either take off the cross, or put on panties."
                        So I think that the problems of Soviet society were largely inherited from tsarist Russia, and not only the technical educational backlog (27% of the literate in 1914), but also the mentality. And Stalin simply DID NOT HAVE TIME to fix it all, they killed him along with Beria, and even repair Lenin's jambs like "Fight against Great Russian chauvinism" and "Promotion of national cadres", including "Ukrainization". After all, at the same time, Stalin fought with the contra, and with the Trotskyist underground, and with "professional revolutionaries" who do not know how to build nicherta, but only know how to destroy. So I think that's where the problem comes from. However, I think so after all that my grandfather told me.
                      7. Essex62
                        Essex62 11 March 2022 23: 02
                        +1
                        You are very lucky with your grandfather. True intellectual.
                        Not much is wrong about a classless society. The party nomenclature, before Gorbachev's arrival, was not a class. It was heterogeneous, but in the mass, nevertheless, it was committed to the main postulate of a socialist society - a ban on personal enrichment. They lived in this system, just the same, more convenient and comfortable. Security with minimum benefits, above the national average, at the expense of the state and the role of an arbiter. Without rigid, specific responsibility for the result. With the exception of a few positions and areas where the top ones were also "threatened" from them. Defense, space and engineering. Maybe something else. They were not a class. In a certain sense, they could even become assistants to the proletariat in its struggle against degenerates.
                        The class is traders, fused with officials and outright thieves. What Stalin, with the full and effective support of the working class, weeded out mercilessly. But as you correctly wrote, I did not have time. It is possible to reformat a person to conscious collectivism, but only under conditions of a direct threat. And we already lived in the "community of the Soviet People", where all the class struggle disappeared. So it was more convenient for the herentocrats, from the Politburo. The old man did not want to fight. So the huckster tribe gradually bent the system for themselves.
                        PS; I ask the sir to leave the appeal, the communist hurts the eye.
      3. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 9 March 2022 20: 46
        -16
        "5,840 troops killed"///
        ---
        I read about a smaller figure: from 2 to 4 thousand.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 9 March 2022 21: 02
          +7
          These are all just estimates. The exact figure will be known only after the end. There is also such a trick that the Donbas corps and the Russian army are considered separately "here" and "there" together ...
          1. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 10 March 2022 01: 41
            +2
            Yes, the DNR/LNR count together with the Russian Army. Here, from the very beginning of the war in the Donbass, they said that it was not the locals who were fighting in the DPR / LPR, but the Russian military who arrived in civilian clothes. And it is right. And here and there - Russian or pro-Russian-minded Ukrainians.
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 10 March 2022 07: 01
              0
              Quote: Baron Pardus
              And here and there - Russian or pro-Russian-minded Ukrainians.

              Yes, even the Yakuts, even the Papuans, it doesn’t matter, the main thing is on which side.
            2. alexmach
              alexmach 10 March 2022 15: 53
              0
              Here, from the very beginning of the war in the Donbass, they said that it was not locals who were fighting in the DPR / LPR, but the Russian military who arrived in civilian

              This does not fully correspond to reality, as I understand it .. But yes, you need to understand that such an error is possible. The Ministry of Defense does not exactly keep statistics on the losses of the people's militias.
        2. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 10 March 2022 01: 51
          +2
          Yeah, you uryak-hat-throwers also downvoted you, although you just mentioned the figure without even saying that you agree with it. I repeat, in the next world, Adolf Alloyzovich, in Hell, beats his head against the edge of a cauldron of tar where he will burn forever and howls with tears in his eyes, "I never taught them anything."
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 10 March 2022 11: 37
          -1
          I am inclined to believe that our Armed Forces, given the size of the front and how many of ours are opposed on it, I am inclined that the losses are approaching 1000 and at least 3000 wounded, and there will be 800 in vehicles - since 518 losses in equipment were documented a week ago and our supply convoys continue to attack the DRG and shoot down planes with helicopters.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 10 March 2022 15: 57
            0
            Well .. this is the most modest realistic "assessment from the bottom." Add here, strictly by eye, the losses of the People's Militia corps, which the Ministry of Defense most likely does not take into account, and you will get plus or minus the lower bound of the estimate that Voyaka gives.
      4. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 9 March 2022 20: 56
        +9
        5,840 troops killed
        It is worth noting that the social media of the Ukronazis (even the most repulsed) in the last 3-4 days were full of messages not about broken Russian columns, but about brother-in-arms who went to hideout to Bandera.
        1. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 10 March 2022 01: 44
          +4
          Yours did not even think of turning off the cellular connection. Therefore, "peaceful civilians" remove broken or abandoned equipment. They say that they say "Technique of Russian invaders" and the fact that 95% of Americans do not distinguish T62 from T72 is another matter. I repeat when Chernobyl exploded, on Amer television they showed corpses on the streets of Kyiv - as it turned out, they show Lebanon.
          They showed how a nuclear power plant exploded and burned - it turned out that they were showing an explosion and a fire at a furniture factory in Italy. But only a few were able to understand and understand.
          Your "geniuses" with the letter "G", in the Moscow Region, did not even think of turning off cellular communications and the Internet.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 10 March 2022 07: 08
            +4
            Well, yes, I remember how on all the news they played a video "an evil Russian tank flattened a Ukrainian car that was moving peacefully." It was immediately clear that it was not a tank, but an “arrow”, and not a Russian one, because there is no “Z” marking, and not such Russian eccentrics with the letter “m” to drive a single “arrow” to storm Kyiv.
            Well, or a story about the "posthumous heroes of Ukraine" from Snake Island, who turned out to be alive, healthy, and voluntarily surrendered.
            1. Siberian54
              Siberian54 10 March 2022 07: 37
              0
              And what, they didn’t tell the Khokhols that the tank always rides along main road and it is desirable to meet him on the sidelines?
            2. Baron pardus
              Baron pardus 10 March 2022 07: 53
              +4
              To this we can add the "Ghost of Kyiv" - a pilot who shot down 29 Dryers on the MiG-6 in a day. Then it turned out that it was all ... only in the Video Game "Combat Flight Simulator"
              There are a lot of lies and misinformation from skakuas. Maybe some of this is true. Or maybe not. But the video where the captured pilots call Russia - a fascist country - is depressing. A video where a clearly beaten Russian pilot tells and shows a map and the targets for which he bombed and the Ukrainians immediately show the "destroyed family house along with the children" - and the Russian Ministry of Defense - like water in his mouth .. No rebuttals. Nothing. You are clearly losing the information war. Unfortunately
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 10 March 2022 16: 02
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            when Chernobyl exploded, on Amer television they showed corpses on the streets of Kyiv - as it turned out, they show Lebanon.
            They showed how a nuclear power plant exploded and burns - it turned out that they show an explosion and a fire at a furniture factory in Italy

            And this is quite normal. Well, go there and figure out what and where is burning across the ocean ...
            Nevertheless, the intelligence data is not quite "showed on TV." But this data, after all, also comes from the media and can also be wrong and be disinformation .. But so far there is no data from the Ministry of Defense, this source should also be paid attention to ..
      5. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 9 March 2022 22: 23
        0
        Well, obviously the dill didn’t shoot down 30 planes, otherwise there would have been a lot of videos. 3 were definitely shot down, 2 Su-34s and 1 Su-30, there are a lot of videos about this in a telegram and even on YouTube.
        1. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 10 March 2022 01: 47
          +4
          There was a video of a transporter burning and falling into the forest. They said that they shot down the plane of the paratroopers, no one had time to jump out. It is possible that this is exactly the plane with the landing force that Kadyrov sent and about which the Ukrainians were warned by the Mossad.
          I don't know if it's true or false. I hope it's a lie. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this is again a video from some kind of computer game. Muslims, as you understand, I, like any veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, do not particularly favor. But in this situation, I wish the Kadyrovites, as well as the entire Russian army, few losses and many victories.
          1. poquello
            poquello 10 March 2022 01: 50
            -2
            Quote: Baron Pardus
            It is possible that this is exactly the plane with the landing force that Kadyrov sent and about which the Ukrainians were warned by the Mossad.

            so that's where you got this nonsense)))))))))))))))))), Brother at that time did not indicate losses, I believe him
            1. Baron pardus
              Baron pardus 10 March 2022 02: 05
              +1
              Sorry sir. I hope you understand that I am, at this point in time, just an E-5 on the reserve working at VA Hospital. I don't have permission. So I just repeat what I heard, and everywhere I say that I hope this is nonsense, and I personally don’t believe it, but your brats, who, by the way, are not in a hurry to go to the front), gave me minuses. I'm wondering how many of these jerks drive cars with a sticker "We can do it again" ?. By the way, almost the same data (about Kadyrov's detente) comes from Israel. There are familiar dads. I repeat that the Pentagon is OFFICIALLY SILENT about Russia's losses. And an enthusiastic howl about the losses of Russia is raised by the media, both republican, shitty, and Israeli. Due to the fact that the Republicans support the Ukroscots, I stopped giving donations to the election campaigns of the Republican candidates, and most likely I will not vote AT ALL in the 2022 elections, and in the 2024 elections I will only vote if Trump runs.
          2. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 11 March 2022 11: 50
            +1
            There was a video of a transporter burning and falling into the forest.
            Uckers would show debris and charred corpses. Without this, they would not have done - for they are very mocking.
          3. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 11 March 2022 16: 04
            0
            Russia does not send transport aircraft to Ukraine, in Ukraine there are still a lot of air defense systems in the form of MANPADS, OS-AKM, Bukov, and probably the S-300.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 10 March 2022 11: 40
          -3
          Ours lost another Su 30SM when the airfield on the border with Ukraine was attacked by Point U. There is video on turntables 2 Ka 52, 1 Mi 8, 1 Mi 24 and 2 Mi 35 at least.
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      7. DIM (a)
        DIM (a) 9 March 2022 22: 40
        -2
        ... 862 armored patrol vehicles (APVs) ...

        Here I agree! Where does such a quantity come from?
        1. poquello
          poquello 10 March 2022 01: 47
          +2
          Quote: DIM (a)
          ... 862 armored patrol vehicles (APVs) ...

          Here I agree! Where does such a quantity come from?

          ))))))) The US press buried the Syrian army two times three times, now it has taken over ours
        2. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 10 March 2022 01: 55
          +2
          I sincerely hope that from the same place where "Iraq has nuclear weapons" with shaking a test tube with washing powder at the UN. That is to say, I hope that this is FALSE. By the way, the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was also "confirmed" by Israel. What for? To use the hands of the United States to take to hell with a state hostile to itself.
          But the fact that your Defense Ministry is generally silent, and the Ukroscots and their owners from Washington and Tel Aviv are not silent - this makes us believe them, because "if it were not true, the Russians would have refuted it."
          I, as I said before, do not believe in these data. But they gave me cons. Okay. One is their judge, or Hel. I sincerely hope that the uryak minus people for what they gave me a minus life will improve a little - for example, they will add 100 bucks to the salary.
          1. poquello
            poquello 10 March 2022 02: 38
            0
            Quote: Baron Pardus
            I hope this is FALSE

            this is nonsense, where are the corpses?
            1. Baron pardus
              Baron pardus 10 March 2022 02: 43
              0
              Here YOU, Sir, ask "Where are the Corpses", and I ask "Where are the corpses?" Moreover, as I said, 90% of Americans will not distinguish the Ukrainian T-64 from the Russian T-72, especially if they are broken and crippled. But when the Ukroscots show the technique and say "This is not ours", they believe them, since the technique is in their hands. And the corpses, in general, they could have been removed. They are unpleasant to look at, at close range, even to most soldiers.
          2. NetKeys
            NetKeys 10 March 2022 07: 12
            +1
            Baron Pardus, silence is not proof that other people's statements are recognized. According to the principle "the dog barks - the caravan moves on." Also, silence can equally and simultaneously indicate that there is no serious opposition (to a greater or lesser extent an unpleasant truth), or their darkness and delay in answering everyone, and that such is the position of ignoring that it is not yet time, or that this is not accepted between intelligence services with each other. other to perebrekhovatsya, and simply not leisure.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 March 2022 20: 05
    +14
    Konashenkov would say when the one-sided game will end? Why these corridors, if the Nazis don’t let the people out, why are the negotiations going on “with a positive result”? Why not speed up the cleansing of megacities? We will not change power in Ukraine? I’m trying to imagine that at the end of the Great Patriotic War, Stalin would put Hitler in power again, before that guaranteeing his life, it doesn’t work ...
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 9 March 2022 21: 19
      +1
      Why these corridors, if the Nazis do not let the people out, why are the negotiations going on "with a positive result"?
      So for me this question is a big mystery, causing bewilderment, like the following question:
      What does the statement mean that we will not change power in Ukraine?
      After the war, we will have to answer the question, why did our soldiers and officers die? Why are our country and people forced to endure sanctions?
      Is it really for the sake of Medvedchuk's release from house arrest, as some Ukrainian resources write? I don't want to believe it! I really hope that the Russian army will finish off the fascist reptile and Ukraine will become part of the Union State. only without some primordially Russian regions, which should be reunited with Russia. Then there will be no questions.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 9 March 2022 21: 31
        +1
        "What does the statement mean that we will not change power in Ukraine?"

        This means that we will not change the power in Ukraine.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 10 March 2022 16: 08
          0
          This means that we will not change the power in Ukraine.

          By the way, yes. It may very well happen that the central government itself will fall, or it may be that the new Ukraine will change it.
  5. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 9 March 2022 20: 05
    0
    E-3A aircraft of the AWACS-NATO system were noted to be on duty in the airspace of Poland around the clock, transmitting information to Kiev about the air situation over Ukraine.

    A couple of days ago, there was infa that the DPR people took a trophy - a laptop with a connection with the amers for intelligence - where we are flying, where we are moving in the rear, tactical columns. Recall the attempted attack by boats at Zmein.
    It's time to honestly, openly point out these facts to the World.
    This is a clear violation of the agreements on cutting Ukraine.
    1. January
      January 9 March 2022 20: 11
      +10
      Which item exactly? Can I see the entire text of the agreements?
      1. Kesha1980
        Kesha1980 9 March 2022 20: 38
        -7
        No you can not. As I understand it, your tolerances (logically and sarcasm) do not allow "acquaintance")
        1. January
          January 9 March 2022 20: 51
          0
          Judging by the answer, at least the second higher than yours. And for disclosing security information, you will soon receive badges, as happened to me :)))
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              1. Kesha1980
                Kesha1980 9 March 2022 21: 10
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                In every sense - hold on. You can't argue against geopolitics - the main thing is that there should be fewer losses. I live in Moscow - I quarreled with my girlfriend (her cousin from Ukraine told obvious fables about the constant bombing of markets). A former colleague (near Mariupol now) does not get in touch. Such is the selyavi. Take care of yourself and loved ones and do not allow them to take weapons.
                The time of war will pass - the time of peace will come.
                1. January
                  January 9 March 2022 23: 37
                  +3
                  Relatives are bad. Half were lost at 14, the rest are now. There was a childhood friend, a retired Chernobyl cop, who now sits on the 24th floor in Kyiv with his one-year-old granddaughter and sometimes shows me the show that is unfolding. But he does not appear on the network for a day. Nervous...
              2. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 9 March 2022 21: 27
                +7
                Quote: ian
                I've been spraying for 2 weeks now. I alternate cognac with corvalol. Born and raised in Kyiv (until 99).

                Here, half of them have an equal number of relatives living in Ukraine, and the other half live in Russia. That's why it hurts!
              3. Baron pardus
                Baron pardus 10 March 2022 09: 00
                +2
                Even those few of the emigrants with whom my wife and I kept in touch - quarreled. We were told to "go back to your Russia", my answer was "I sincerely wish you to personally meet with Bandera, they will lively arrange Babi Yar part 2 for you. What you deserve, since those who have forgotten history are doomed to repeat it." My parents went into "Stirlitz" mode. They say one thing in public, another at home SAVSEM.
                However, I began to tell all Americans that all Russians have Russian television, not Ukrainian. And that they only support Ukraine "in public" because they think you want to hear it. Just like during emigration, they told you all how they were "religiously oppressed", but everyone had a higher education, everyone occupied normal positions, and here they don't go to synagogues and churches at all. When was the last time you saw an immigrant from the former USSR, Russia or Ukraine in a church or synagogue.
                They listen, nod, say "And you're actually right." He showed the Anericans pictures of the Ukronazis, such as a building in Lviv decorated with Nazi flags and the inscription "Long live the liberator of the Ukrainian people, Adolf Hitler." He showed a familiar Pole pictures from the Volyn massacre. Reminded him. I recommended asking my parents (those over 70), asked, confirmed. I work as best I can. So I become a "Fighter of the invisible front."
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 10: 25
                  +2
                  "Fighter of the invisible front."
                  There are no jobs in England wassat the British are either neutral or more worried about heating and petrol prices. A rally in support of Ukraine on Trafalgar Square gathered 150 ryls - for the protection of the rights of Polynesian gays, more came out yes Arabs and Asians support Russia, by the way. And the government itself.
                  1. Liam
                    Liam 10 March 2022 10: 40
                    -1
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    A rally in support of Ukraine on Trafalgar Square gathered 150

                    laughing fool
                    1. Bolt cutter
                      Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 10: 41
                      0
                      I was there a week ago after lunch - the hype has clearly fizzled out laughing Or maybe the immigration police caught them. Yes, and in this video there are about a thousand, that is, part of the Ukrainians in London.
                    2. Baron pardus
                      Baron pardus 10 March 2022 10: 54
                      0
                      Yes, there is such Russophobic propaganda. They collect money for the Ukrainian "volunteers" (national battalions), and the Armed Forces of Ukraine under the motto "Help Ukraine stop the bloodthirsty Putin, save the world from the 3rd World War." You cannot imagine. When there was a trump, then everyone was scared by the ubiquitous and omnipotent Russian Hackers who made Trump win. There is no Trump - now the Russians are "crazy maniacs who enjoy the destruction of maternity hospitals along with mothers and children and want to conquer Europe." Damn, we have no other problems here in the States. They defeated their own crime and corruption. Defeated the drug trade. Welfare was abolished. Every American has a normal job and normal medical insurance. All areas have become safe. Prices for everything stopped going up. No, damn it, we have other problems than "Stop Russia and save the world from World War III." And what is interesting - the people hawala. And shitty critters and Republicans. On Pay...Facebook, a lot of people have yellow-blakite instead of an avatar. I'm waiting for them to start howling about "hordes of Eastern Mongoloids who want to enslave and destroy Western civilization." The fact that Ukraine is the last outpost of freedom and democracy against the Russian invaders is already being said. And they immediately remembered Beevor's nonsense about "mass rapes" (which DID NOT HAPPEN), but nevertheless this was also launched on some broadcasting sites.
                      Well, did it help you that you destroyed socialism and became a capitalist democracy? Have you been accepted into "blessed Western society"? No. Everything happened exactly as you were warned. For example, my grandfather and other older people. But then you yelled at him, yelled "Derzhimorda", "Stalin's dog". But I think to all those who so bowed before the "blessed west" and then and now there will be nothing. Not Gref, not Gaidar, not Khabibulina, not anyone. "The system has learned to forgive" although by and large you can safely use not 100 or 1000 traitors for treason and sabotage.
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 10: 58
                        0
                        Yes, there is such Russophobic propaganda
                        Mustachioed from mythbusters fell for the myth of 18 border guards on Serpentine and wrote down an appeal to Russian soldiers wassat
                        In England, advertising dill flags on paid billboards, but somehow you can’t get people yes
                      2. Baron pardus
                        Baron pardus 10 March 2022 20: 11
                        0
                        And then a lot of people fell for the "Phantom of Kyiv", blessed him, organized a fundraiser for him ... And then everything quietly VERY quietly disappeared. No one openly said that they say the "Ghost of Kyiv" and its "downed dryers" existed only in the Game "Combat Flight Simulator". But on the other hand, many believe in the motto "Stop Putin, save the world from World War III, save Europe from invasion." You do not understand how Russophobia has taken root here. Since 1917, they have been told about the "bestial appearance of the Russian Bolsheviks" here. When we arrived in the USA, we went to study English, first at Hillard Language School, then at Truman College. Here are the questions that the Americans asked us, either college students or teachers:
                        a) Is it true that since the communists do not recognize private property, then anyone can come into your house and take your radio? (My dad said that in general this is true, but in order to take someone's TV, you need the permission of the senior commissar)
                        b) Is it true that since you are behind the "Iron Curtain" then TVs are banned in your country? (Dad said that TVs are not prohibited, but they all work not on electricity but on coal, and some are connected to dynamos and if you want to watch TV, you need to run along the path that spins the dynamo)
                        c) You are all atheists, is it true that you have no families and everything is sleeping with everyone? (My father and mother answered that this is exactly the case and they are delighted)
                        d) Is it true that when people grow old and can no longer work for the state, they are loaded onto barges, taken to the sea and drowned? (Dad said in response that no, they don’t drown, they put them to sleep, and from the corpses they make minced meat with which they feed everyone else)
                        e) It is true that bears walk the streets. (My mother said - what are you. We have no bears in Kyiv, though there are many wolves and tigers, but they are almost tame, and they eat only dissidents and those who disagree with the general policy of the party)
                        f) It is true that murderers and soldiers are trained from you from childhood. (To which I said the truth. At the age of 12, we have an exam on torture and interrogation at school. The excellent students torture the losers, and then the losers are shot, and the corpses are fed to wolves and bears in zoos, since the meat of the losers is very tasty, the bears like it).
                        g) Is it true that the communists destroyed all the churches and shot all the priests? (The parents said that it was not true, they made a branch of the Communist Party from each church, and the priests, under the threat of extradition to Palestinian Muslims and Mongolian shamans, were forced to pray in front of the icons of Lenin, Marx and Engels, who are God, one in three persons).
                        h) Is it true that American literature is banned in the USSR? (Mother said that it was not true, but to get permission to read an American book, you need to pass an exam on the works of Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao).
                        i) They were wildly surprised that we saw movies like "McKenna's Gold", "Short Circuit", and many others. We were asked if films were made in the USSR???

                        In short, we gave the most idiotic answers to these questions with the most serious expression on our faces. We must pay tribute to the Americans - they quickly realized that they were being tritely bullied and began to laugh. Truman College is not exactly an indicator. This is a college for the poor located in a not so good area. With all the delights of nigerstan - shooting at night (about once a week), drug trafficking, homeless crime, murder ... In the first two weeks in the USA, I left Truman College and went to the arcade (it was opposite, and very cheap ). At the bus stop stood a pretty black woman. Some guy, also a black man, approached her, they started talking and arguing, then the guy took out a revolver and shot the girl in the head. He threw a revolver nearby, sat down on the curb, took out a cigarette and began to wait for the police. It happened about 20 meters from me. I even saw her leg twitch... Welcome to America.

                        Mother went to work at the Anatomical Chart Company, where the people were smarter. Such idiotic questions were not asked, but simply asked about how total was the control of the "KGB" over the lives of citizens. For example, is it true that for a joke you could sit down for 10 years. They also asked about bears and wolves. They asked about the fact that if private property is abolished, who owns the furniture that is in your apartment. They asked that if the apartment is state-owned, can the state throw you out of there. They were wildly surprised to learn that in the USSR there were private houses and apartments. That it was possible to have both a car and a dacha. They were wildly surprised that in the USSR there are American and European films. We were wildly surprised that we had 4 weeks of vacation, that semi-free sanatoriums and rest houses. They asked about queues in stores and shortages. Well, this has already been explained seriously. The factory closes at 6pm. Deli at 7. Naturally, after work, everyone rushes to the deli - there are queues from there. They asked us about bread and sugar on cards. Matushka explained that the prices for bread were kept very low, and the villagers came and bought all the bread in the store to feed the pigs, the bread was cheaper than mixed fodder. And when the cards were introduced, the rations were such that we had left. She told me about sugar cards. What was introduced because of moonshiners. And we had sugar left, despite the fact that my mother and both grandmothers loved to bake. And we sold this sugar, its surpluses, to moonshiners, since even on coupons it was given out more than enough. They were sure that the streets of Soviet cities were patrolled by submachine gunners who were quick to kill. They were wildly surprised when we told them that the millionaires in the USSR very rarely go with weapons - there is no need.

                        But the fact that we've been asked such questions gives you an idea of ​​what they've been told about us. And this is 1991.
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 20: 19
                        0
                        In England, I didn’t meet such a tin. (Although I arrived later) An Australian drinking companion once told me that his boss asked him - Matt, did you see a live Russian belay ? He answered him that he thumps with a live Russian in the evenings and even eats borscht boiled by this very Russian (me)! Something like that.
                      4. Baron pardus
                        Baron pardus 10 March 2022 20: 37
                        +1
                        England has always been considered a more educated country than the United States. Although when the Minister of Foreign Affairs of England does not know which city is in Russia and which is on Banderlogia, this is a symptom. When PSAKI chimes out like this, threatening to send a fleet to the shores of Belarus, this is one thing. But apparently, by idiocy, England is quickly catching up with the US and Canada. By the way, in Canada, some senator called for the cessation of railway communication with Russia. Well, in Ukraine, they said on TV that Taras Shevchenko was a fighter against the communists, and for this the communists sent him into exile twice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJXp-r1wwY&t=32s
                        The case of Psaka and Gretta lives on and wins. Rukalitso, headwall.
                      5. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 20: 50
                        0
                        England has always been considered a more educated country
                        For the last 30 years, instead of hereditary lords and sirs (at least they have no problems with education), party activists without education have been climbing into power. Democracy, sir laughing
                      6. Baron pardus
                        Baron pardus 10 March 2022 21: 04
                        0
                        Yep, same as in the US. The further the less I believe in democracy and republic. Democracy is a tyranny of the mediocre. The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter. A person who knows neither geography nor history, who cannot balance his own budget, simply cannot be able to choose a good representative. Therefore, the elections turned into a "popularity contest", and throwing poop at the opponent. Exactly as in Mark Twain's immortal Felton "How I was elected governor." The results are outside the window. 8/20
                      7. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 21: 06
                        -1
                        tyranny of mediocrity.
                        Worse... The result is the tyranny of media moguls and those who can afford their prohibitively expensive services.
                      8. Baron pardus
                        Baron pardus 10 March 2022 22: 44
                        -1
                        You're right. Stupid cattle are easier to manage. Especially stupid cattle "to whom everyone owes" or stupid cattle without a kind of tribe, but with "parent 1, parent 2, and flexible sex identification." Damn, why is Chinese so heavy - the only country in the world that has not gone crazy.
                      9. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 22: 49
                        0
                        why is chinese so hard
                        There is no such thing in South America yet. I am considering Uruguay.
                      10. Liam
                        Liam 10 March 2022 22: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        why is chinese so hard
                        There is no such thing in South America yet. I am considering Uruguay.

                        Why not to Russia?
                      11. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 10 March 2022 22: 59
                        0
                        not to Russia?
                        If strictly according to the law, it is very difficult to enter Russia and naturalize for a long time. I don't want to be illegal tongue And the climate in Uruguay is still better for a future pensioner.
                      12. Baron pardus
                        Baron pardus 10 March 2022 23: 40
                        0
                        My friend fled to Russia in 2002. Nostalgia blew. Well, he told me how his homeland accepted. The application for the restoration of citizenship was "lost" 3 times. Until he was advised to come in, give him a paw. Lived and worked on a work visa. He worked in black accounting, it seemed to work, but it seems not. They could have turned out at any moment and would not have proved anything. He told me that at work, they paid $ 750 a month then (he worked at some factory, as a translator and engineer of the quality control department, he was a physicist by education and by nature), but renting a kopeck piece broken into pieces, right next to the Moscow Ring Road, not far from the Novogireevo metro station, cost $450. I didn't even have money for a bed. Slept on the floor, on a mattress. It’s good that in the apartment at least a couple of chairs were from the former owners and empty bookshelves. He did not have a TV for about half a year. He hung around, until he met a girl through friends, and she moved to live with him. She earned less, EMNIP $450 bucks a month. Here, together, they have already become more or less normal. And I don't have anyone. Uncle is in Podolsk. Well, so he himself is thinking of molting from Russia, even though it is well worth it, but he is afraid of the nix and all sorts of "Maidans". And the rest of the relatives, to whom I sometimes send money now, they generally think that I'm crazy. Even though my wife misses Russia, she clearly understands that YET the standard of living in the USA is higher. And where will I put the 3 apartments that I rent. And where do I put the number of trunks that my wife and I have? I have one FAL - 3 pieces. Different G3 clones - 3 more pieces, well, further down the list. You won't let me transfer this entire arsenal to Russia, will you? And the rodoks are also reluctant to throw. They are already old. And they don't have anyone but me. Father's best friend - "Uncle Vova", died 3 weeks ago. Felt bad. I went to the doctor, the doctor went nuts from what he saw, sent him to the Hospital for a heart operation. During the operation, they sculpted something, and at first his aorta burst, which they managed to sew up, but at the same time there was a massive stroke. 4 weeks of coma and that's it. Death. That's it. They say that they say "the USA has great medicine." Yes, there was. Raskorozhili. The only cool thing here is the quantity and quality of diagnostic equipment. Doctors of the "old school" are good, but new ones are not taught to think themselves at all. Because now colleges are busy teaching... how to pass exams, and not knowledge and the ability to think critically and logic.
                        What happens. If you teach people to THINK and THINK, then the percentage of those who pass the exam for a doctor's license will go down. This will affect the reputation of the university, fewer students will go there, and this will mean a drop in profits. So it turns out that NOBODY FOR ANYTHING, except for SPECIFIC PROFIT FOR THE PRESENT MOMENT, is not interested in anything. The results will be raked later, and other people. And so it is everywhere in the US. Here we are pushing GMO food. The corporation's profits will rise, but the fact that people's health will deteriorate, and it will cost them dearly, and employers and the state, does not bother anyone. And so it is in EVERY industry. Profit for YOURSELF, NOW, and AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. And then - well, others will rake, so "not my problem." That is why we are beaten by the Chinese. We are trying to play "chapaev" with them, and they are playing 3-dimensional chess with us.
                        By the way, you don't want someone like me to return to Russia. I'm going to start a revolution. :-) Restore the Soviet Power, Stalin's. And any counter - at an expense. Under the motto "You are not here, I will teach you to drink vodka and break outrages. I will take you out into the open field, put you face to the wall and put a bullet in the forehead." Do you need it? :-)
  6. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 9 March 2022 20: 05
    -9
    After the story with conscripts, trust somehow became less!
    1. NetKeys
      NetKeys 10 March 2022 07: 25
      +1
      Trust in what exactly? For EVERYTHING?
      There was a jamb, which has an explanation (they pulled units from afar, from autumn-winter, for exercises, someone brazenly decided to score on orders and not break up the crews, or they sent them to the cook, or to the rear guards). Ours did not deny and drive misinformation, now they will put it in order. You have a mess in your life every other day, misfires, work for a basket, etc., just like mine.
    2. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 10 March 2022 10: 37
      0
      Why not let the conscripts fight if he wants to.
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  8. Luminman
    Luminman 9 March 2022 20: 09
    +13
    Quote from: Triada110
    Raisins became the second Khatyn, the city was wiped off the face of the earth. During the entire war in Ukraine, 64 children were killed.

    You about this dyrachok-Gordon said?
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 9 March 2022 20: 16
      +6
      Luminman-In ward number 6, everyone is talking about this barbarism, even the orderlies wassat
  9. MrFYGY
    MrFYGY 9 March 2022 20: 17
    -3
    After "air domination" and "there are no conscripts" I can no longer perceive objectively.
  10. Prjanik
    Prjanik 9 March 2022 20: 20
    +5
    Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked the substation and power lines supplying the Chernobyl nuclear power plant - Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Pankov

    “Russian specialists have taken prompt measures to switch to standby diesel generator power sources. The Ukrainian side in every possible way evades the organization of any repair and restoration work. In our opinion, this once again confirms the absolutely purposeful and provocative nature of the actions of the nationalists, ”said Pankov.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 9 March 2022 21: 38
      -1
      There are not only nationalist actions, there is also a part of the population that sincerely defends its boo and will spoil and sabotage any of our actions to help them. Such a mentality and brainwashed heads.
      1. Synoid
        Synoid 10 March 2022 15: 06
        0
        The Nazis and those who support them are no more than 0,5 percent of the population of Ukraine, 5 percent for Russia. Well, the remaining 94,5 are neutral, if only they were full.
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 10 March 2022 16: 34
          -2
          Oh, is it neutral? In a year I will remind you of your words of the prophet, but only you will not be here.
          1. Synoid
            Synoid 11 March 2022 02: 38
            +2
            Sociology. Active / ideological no more than 1%, the rest can be forced. But as soon as the power changes, they also change color.
  11. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 9 March 2022 20: 44
    +6
    89 combat aircraft and 57 helicopters.
    That is, they still have a hundred aircraft.
    1. K-50
      K-50 9 March 2022 21: 23
      +2
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      89 combat aircraft and 57 helicopters.
      That is, they still have a hundred aircraft.

      Well, they don't necessarily work.
      Even in peacetime, part of the fleet is under repair or some other reason does not allow flying.
      Now there are many more of these reasons.
  12. GREG68
    GREG68 9 March 2022 20: 59
    +1
    Quote from: Triada110
    Let's wait for photos and videos.

    A Russian soldier never kills civilians, let alone children, even on enemy territory! Never! The Russian soldier has always been a liberator, not an invader! And your Bandera scum are real fascists! The Hague will sort it out, I hope!
    1. Igool
      Igool 9 March 2022 22: 26
      +4
      Quote: GREG68
      The Hague will sort it out, I hope!

      Why do we need The Hague? I hope our tribunal is no worse.
    2. Poplar
      Poplar 9 March 2022 23: 33
      +5
      Yep, wait. They have been dealing with the downed Boeing for many years in this Hague. And here it will be the same - they will say Russia is to blame for everything. So no The Hague, in Kyiv on Maidan Square, as in 1946.
    3. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 10 March 2022 10: 52
      -1
      A Russian soldier never kills civilians, let alone children, even on enemy territory! Never! The Russian soldier has always been a liberator, not an invader!

      Smiled. Are you a commissioner?
  13. Vadmir
    Vadmir 9 March 2022 21: 03
    +2
    Every day of the war there are new casualties. Accordingly, the sooner the war ends, the less losses there will be, including among the civilian population. Yes, and it will take less to restore the destroyed. And all these negotiations, all this pseudo-humanism is an unnecessary prolongation of the war, and hence losses. The decisive actions of the armed forces must be resumed, and the time will come to negotiations after the capture of Odessa, Kyiv, Nikolaev, Chernigov, Kharkov and other cities of Eastern, Southern and Central Ukraine.
    I would like to say to gentlemen politicians and diplomats - "Do not interfere with the military yet, they still have to win!"
    Then let Zelensky beg for himself, at the negotiations, the opportunity to remain the head of a neutral, non-bloc Western Ukraine, with its capital in Lvov. And the base of Russia, somewhere near Lvov, should guarantee the non-alignment.
  14. Prjanik
    Prjanik 9 March 2022 21: 04
    +1
    On the night of March 9, Ukrainian nationalists brought about 80 tons of ammonia to the village of ZOLOCHEV northwest of KHARKOV. According to the residents who left ZOLOCHEV, the nationalists teach them how to act correctly in case of a chemical attack.

    All this testifies to the preparation by Ukrainian nationalists of a provocation using poisonous substances to accuse Russia of allegedly using chemical weapons.
  15. ovod84
    ovod84 9 March 2022 21: 05
    0
    on special operations it is not without mistakes, the main thing is not to send inexperienced youngsters into a meat grinder.
  16. svoit
    svoit 9 March 2022 21: 12
    0
    Quote: Kesha1980
    laptop with communication with reconnaissance amers - where are we flying, where are we moving in the rear, tactical columns

    Something else is strange here, there are no amers over Ukraine, but there is infa, but we have almost the opposite, tactical awareness will not be enough
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 9 March 2022 21: 41
      0
      I don’t see anything strange, the Americans have firmly settled there for a long time and are trusted, plus the technological advantage after all is behind them in the world. A lot of information is taken from the same rapters in real time.
  17. Fisherman
    Fisherman 9 March 2022 21: 19
    +4
    They didn’t say anything about the cauldron in the East, they were modest, there 50-60 dill in the cauldron are ready for cooking, a serious defeat is planned for the ruin. And of course, it’s a pity for conscripts, but this is an army, commanders should be imprisoned not because they were there, but because they surrendered without a fight. In Afghanistan, this happened to us either with seriously wounded or with some Baltic runners who fled at the first opportunity to the spirits. The main conscripts were strong and fought.
    1. Igool
      Igool 9 March 2022 22: 34
      +2
      Quote: Fisherman
      The main conscripts were strong and fought.


      So we didn’t have any mercenaries or contractors. Is it possible that ensigns, and re-enlisted men, can pass for "double basses"? And it even happened that the one who "bowed" at the beginning of each bullet was subsequently steadfast and reliable.
    2. Baron pardus
      Baron pardus 10 March 2022 08: 52
      +5
      If these conscripts were taken prisoner, then you need to figure it out:
      a) How did they get there? If Putin said no, then who dared to disobey? I wonder what will happen to this guy? Dishonorable Discharge? Tribunal? Or "the system must learn to forgive"? (Words, EMNIP is also Putin's)
      b) Were the conscripts armed and trained in the use of weapons? Or so my uncle Alik is a construction battalion, and he held AKM in his hands 3 times in 2 years?
      c) If they had weapons, did they resist? What was the situation. Could they resist? If they could but did not resist - this is a problem. However, I think the "heroes" from the national battalions will very soon make these poor guys regret that they gave up. Judging by how the pilot who was shot down was beaten, like near Kherson, these guys will also get it. Well, they will understand everything that needs to be understood about "internationalism" in general and about "innocent Ukrainians" in particular.
      d) The fact that conscripts were captured is bad. But the fact that captured Russian pilots on Ragulenovosti call Russia a fascist state is a problem. No, I understand that under the threat of execution, you can’t say that. In general, we are openly told "If you are captured, the most important thing is to survive, of course, not by transferring secret data." Although John McCain told the Vietnamese EVERYTHING, down to the names of the children of all the pilots of his squadron. And nothing. Career did not stop. But he didn’t call the USA a fascist country ...
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 10 March 2022 11: 00
        0
        In general, we are openly told "If you are captured, the most important thing is to survive, of course, not by transferring secret data."

        I heard that Jewish prisoners are allowed to tell everything in order to stay alive. An interesting dilemma. What is more important to give out military secrets or to die?
        1. Baron pardus
          Baron pardus 10 March 2022 11: 07
          +1
          I don't know anything about the Jews. On the one hand, we are told "nothing but a personal number and part not to say" and on the other hand, "do everything you can to survive. You will get even later." I repeat. John McCain, in Vietnam, told EVERYTHING he knew. Not only the performance characteristics of the aircraft on which he flew, but even the names of the children of all the pilots of his squadron, all the call signs of his squadron and others, and the names of all members of the family of the aircraft carrier commander. According to the Vietnamese, they didn't even torture him. They just said that if you don't start talking, we'll beat you. He split up. Naturally, many despised him after that, but he did not suffer any punishment and did not interfere with his career. In Iraq and Afghanistan, ours did not surrender. They knew that they would be brutally tortured and would not be spared in any case. And the choice is small. either himself, but quickly, or sand macaques you - but slowly.
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  19. rruvim
    rruvim 9 March 2022 21: 36
    +4
    Comrades!!! From the first day of the special operation, I have been following her carefully (I try as much as I can). Including behind the telegram channels of our respected site, "Rybarem", "military informant", "Gonza" and subscribed to "military maps". Question for the entire audience: why is there almost no footage of the Mi-28 and Mi-28N helicopters? But only Kashek and previous versions of Mil. Why are there no work personnel (from the Ministry of Defense) of Outposts and Kronstadts, is it clear - in the version of the scouts, at least?
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 9 March 2022 22: 24
      +6
      Outposts and Kronstadts, of course - in the version of the scouts, at least?
      This is already commonplace after Syria. And there are too few shock UAVs yet.
      In general, the Ministry of Defense does not indulge us with its personnel for some reason.
      As for the Mi-28N, there are really few personnel with their participation, they may have proven themselves poorly in Syria, and the modifications of the Mi-28NM have not yet been released much.
      There is also a jingoistic explanation, if you like, he is also the "Night Hunter", so he only flies at night, but at night it's impossible to shoot wink
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 9 March 2022 22: 26
      +5
      Quote: rruvim
      Comrades!!! From the first day of the special operation, I have been following her carefully (I try as much as I can). Including behind the telegram channels of our respected site, "Rybarem", "military informant", "Gonza" and subscribed to "military maps". Question for the entire audience: why is there almost no footage of the Mi-28 and Mi-28N helicopters? But only Kashek and previous versions of Mil. Why are there no work personnel (from the Ministry of Defense) of Outposts and Kronstadts, is it clear - in the version of the scouts, at least?

      There are also footage from the Mi-28NM, but if you notice, now there are very few footage on the use of our weapons in Ukraine, and not just footage on combat aviation. And those frames that are, very often represent puzzles, when some ammunition is suspended, the use of completely different ones is reported, and I generally keep quiet about binding to the terrain. The same is true for the use of aircraft types.
  20. Born_In_UA
    Born_In_UA 9 March 2022 21: 40
    +2
    Quote: Thrifty
    Why these corridors, if the Nazis do not let the people out, why are the negotiations going on "with a positive result"?

    To then be "white and fluffy" before the rest of the world. It is necessary to restore relations with the USA and the EU, and not to spoil them with neutral and allied countries. Therefore, all formalities must be observed.

    Why not speed up the cleansing of metropolitan areas?

    Because the victims among the civilian population (and a separate line of the destroyed infrastructure). For example, in the same Nikolaev, according to the statements of the authorities, bridges are now mined. If you start an assault, they will be blown up. If you surround and convince to surrender, the bridges will remain intact.

    You can already perceive the inhabitants of the southeast de facto as Russians (their fellow citizens). Is the view different from that angle?

    What does the statement mean that we will not change power in Ukraine?

    And that means - the Ukrainians themselves will change, but in the right direction. Otherwise, they will consider Russia an occupying country until the end of their lives.
    1. Vadmir
      Vadmir 9 March 2022 22: 10
      +1
      And that means - the Ukrainians themselves will change, but in the right direction. Otherwise, they will consider Russia an occupying country until the end of their lives.
      I am more concerned with the question of what will be considered in Russia about this operation when everything is over. The people and the army will pay a very high price for this war, and if they do not receive anything in return, then the situation in domestic politics may become unpredictable. Now the authorities have relied on the patriots, but the patriots cannot explain the game for the independence of Ukraine with the Helsinki agreements on the inviolability of borders and other crap about tolerance and political correctness, about the democratic choice of the people. The Ukrainian people have already chosen the Nazis by democratic means and built anti-Russia on their territory. And do not take this into account, the government can not afford.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 9 March 2022 22: 46
        +2
        "The Ukrainian people have already chosen the Nazis in democratic ways and built anti-Russia on their territory. And the authorities cannot afford not to take this into account."

        The Ukrainian people elected Zelensky as president as the antipode of Poroshenko under the slogans of ending hostilities in Donbas and restoring peace in the state. Do you have a selective memory or...
        1. Vadmir
          Vadmir 9 March 2022 22: 55
          +3
          Slogans, slogans, and facts are facts. Electing a comedian as president of your country is completely irresponsible.
          Let me remind you that Hitler was also elected by quite democratic methods.
          The question is, should the people be responsible for those whom they elect? In my opinion, yes. At the very least, history shows that when a people make the wrong choice, then the consequences then come for the whole people.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 9 March 2022 23: 02
            0
            Quote: Vadmir
            Slogans, slogans, and facts are facts. Electing a comedian as president of your country is completely irresponsible.
            Let me remind you that Hitler was also elected by quite democratic methods.
            The question is, should the people be responsible for those whom they elect? In my opinion, yes. At the very least, history shows that when a people make the wrong choice, then the consequences then come for the whole people.


            The people cannot get into the candidate's head and find out his true intentions, therefore, the candidate should be primarily responsible for fulfilling the orders of the voters. If the candidate fulfills his election promises, then the voters are also responsible for what is happening. But only moral. Since the signatures on the documents will not be of all the people, and for each specific case, each specific citizen may have different opinions. But for each decree, a referendum is not held.
            1. Vadmir
              Vadmir 9 March 2022 23: 09
              +2
              But only moral.
              As a rule, not only moral, but also material. Yes, legally, no one will judge anyone. But you have to think with your head who you elect and where your country is going. Let me remind you that the Ukrainian people elected not only Zelensky, they also elected Poroshenko and Yushchenko. And the Rada, in fact, banned the Russian language. And then the Ukrainians ask: "What about us?"
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 9 March 2022 23: 35
                +2
                Quote: Vadmir
                But only moral.
                As a rule, not only moral, but also material. Yes, legally, no one will judge anyone. But you have to think with your head who you elect and where your country is going. Let me remind you that the Ukrainian people elected not only Zelensky, they also elected Poroshenko and Yushchenko. And the Rada, in fact, banned the Russian language. And then the Ukrainians ask: "What about us?"


                I remember how we elected Gorbachev ... There was only one candidate, and we chose. And how to choose if all the candidates are Russophobes? If there is a column "against all" and it contains the most votes, then all candidates should be removed, but no one has ever done that. As for "And we are for sho", I agree here, because there were no protests against the long-term murder in the Donbass and now there is nothing to be outraged about the special operation to enforce peace in Ukraine.
    2. Vadmir
      Vadmir 9 March 2022 22: 11
      +3
      For example, in the same Nikolaev, according to the statements of the authorities, bridges are now mined.
      The bridge will be blown up anyway.
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  22. Enemy
    Enemy 9 March 2022 22: 25
    +2
    And why is there still no official recognition of Crimea as Russian from our ally, sitting in the bushes, as well as the DPR and LPR?
  23. Born_In_UA
    Born_In_UA 9 March 2022 22: 56
    +3
    Quote: Vadmir
    For example, in the same Nikolaev, according to the statements of the authorities, bridges are now mined.
    The bridge will be blown up anyway.

    No. Now this is a method to prevent the Russian troops from going to Odessa through Nikolaev. If Odessa is taken, or the official government capitulates, then the need to undermine the bridge will disappear.
  24. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 9 March 2022 23: 26
    +7
    Banderstat turned out to have a suspicious amount of weapons. This is what money "Western partners" poured in there to turn them into Anti-Russia.
  25. indy424
    indy424 10 March 2022 00: 24
    +4
    "Kyiv has lost combat control of aviation" - but, judging by the same Konashenko, Ukraine has not lost aviation itself already earlier? or now they will lose aircraft every day?
  26. Volga073
    Volga073 10 March 2022 00: 30
    -1
    National Bats for fertilizers!
  27. Synoid
    Synoid 10 March 2022 03: 32
    0
    Quote: Baron Pardus
    I am not a scout, I have NO clearance. But I sincerely hope they are lying. And the sediment was left from how clumsily, through the 5th point, your MO planned the operation.

    To understand "clumsily" or not, you must have plans and facts.
    You have neither of those, you just spread gossip like a toothless old woman.
  28. Synoid
    Synoid 10 March 2022 03: 33
    -1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "5,840 troops killed"///
    ---
    I read about a smaller figure: from 2 to 4 thousand.

    So the Jewish accountants pulled themselves up.
  29. Synoid
    Synoid 10 March 2022 03: 36
    -3
    Quote: Baron Pardus
    in and about which

    Again, you mixed everything up, it was a helicopter with Mossad Nazis, about which Kadyrov warned.
  30. Synoid
    Synoid 10 March 2022 03: 38
    -3
    Quote: Thrifty
    Konashenkov would say when the one-sided game will end? Why these corridors, if the Nazis don’t let the people out, why are the negotiations going on “with a positive result”? Why not speed up the cleansing of megacities? We will not change power in Ukraine? I’m trying to imagine that at the end of the Great Patriotic War, Stalin would put Hitler in power again, before that guaranteeing his life, it doesn’t work ...

    To say and do different things, we will clean up the whole of Ukraine.
    And let Europe feed the Nazis at home.
  31. Teador
    Teador 10 March 2022 07: 38
    0
    Before that, it was APPROVED THAT EVERYTHING IS ALREADY DESTROYED.
  32. Born_In_UA
    Born_In_UA 10 March 2022 08: 15
    +2
    I am more concerned with the question of what will be considered in Russia about this operation when everything is over. The people and the army will pay a very high price for this war, and if they do not receive anything in return, then the situation in domestic politics may become unpredictable.

    1. Yes, they will pay, and what is happening now is only an advance payment. The real spending will begin after the hostilities.
    2. Will be in return. New people will join (+ demographics) and an economic component will be added (I am almost sure that the property of Ukrainian oligarchs will be nationalized in favor of Russia).

    The Ukrainian people have already chosen the Nazis by democratic means.

    If you rewind the story a bit, then Zelensky was elected AGAINST what Parashenko was doing, moreover, by an overwhelming majority of votes (73% in the second round). There was simply no choice: either Zelensky or Parashenko again. That's all the "menu".
  33. Pytnik
    Pytnik 10 March 2022 08: 22
    -2
    Quote: Paranoid50
    Well, it doesn’t smell like the truth yet, but rather it smells of a certain substance that such organisms sometimes produce beyond plan. And here it is, olesha:

    sashulya is not rude to strangers not when not in the virtual world, and not in real life, but it turns out that you yourself look like a Selyuk
    1. Repellent
      Repellent 10 March 2022 08: 39
      -1
      Quote: Pytnik
      Quote: Paranoid50

      Well, it doesn’t smell like the truth yet, but rather it smells of a certain substance that such organisms sometimes produce beyond plan. And here it is, olesha:

      sashulya is not rude to strangers not when not in the virtual world, and not in real life, but it turns out that you yourself look like a Selyuk

      I am absolutely right on your pick, but I cannot but note that your opponent's Russian sounds much cleaner than yours.
      1. Pytnik
        Pytnik 10 March 2022 08: 55
        -1
        I’m just as sure, in your opinion, I graduated from school in 1990, so that it’s too late to learn
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 10 March 2022 09: 06
          0
          Quote: Pytnik
          I graduated from school in 1990

          Weird. It always seemed to me that in those days they still taught well what

          Doubly strange because your age does not allow you to attribute your mistakes to senile sclerosis.
          1. Pytnik
            Pytnik 10 March 2022 09: 32
            -1
            Excuse me, are you a teacher? or from those who love to teach others what to do and how to live and what to write, do you have something to say on the topic? Or you are bored and you are looking for an interlocutor, forgive my business, I need to take an order to the market and SDEC, there is no time to communicate with people like you and the subject you are protecting _ there is no extra hi
  34. Vladimir Petroff
    Vladimir Petroff 10 March 2022 09: 14
    +2
    Remind me, my general, when did the Ukrainian Air Force fly abroad en masse? 1 case yes there was a place to be, and the rest? And the fact that NATO is quietly monitoring our actions only says that we cannot interfere with them in any way. All our unparalleled electronic warfare systems, as it turned out, are only good in exercises? Or just on paper?
    1. sivuch
      sivuch 10 March 2022 09: 44
      +1
      Oh, so you know for sure that NATO is monitoring our actions? Nice to meet such a knowledgeable person. Then, maybe tell us how you can interfere with the work of satellite reconnaissance equipment, in particular, optical-electronic ones. True, I myself know one such means - it’s to shoot them down, but I’m afraid that then there will be no one to write about this war.
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 10 March 2022 11: 02
        -1
        I know for sure that the USA will track EVERYTHING in Ukraine. OUTSIDE Ukrainian airspace, AWACS fly, and EVERYTHING is handed over to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions. OVER Ukraine, Global Hawks and other UAVs fly, and also transmit information. We talk about it openly. That we won’t send troops, but we will share intelligence data. Israeli Mossad shares intelligence with Bandera (hand face, head wall). This is openly spoken in Israel. By the way, in Israel, Jews go to their wailing wall in capes in the form of the Ukrainian flag. I was crying. It’s interesting how their ancestors will meet them in the next world, whose ancestors killed Bandera for a very long and painful time. (since they committed atrocities, even the SS was freaking out). It's like forgetting your history. Well, I sincerely wish all Jews - lovers of Bandera personal acquaintance with the followers of "Nakhtigal" and "Galitchina" those who have forgotten the lessons of history need them again.
  35. kova1967
    kova1967 11 March 2022 15: 29
    0
    The conscripts, as I understand it, were in rear support.