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With the help of Ukraine, the West tried to pass judgment on Russia

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With the help of Ukraine, the West tried to pass judgment on Russia

When they say that they began to form "anti-Russia" from Ukraine only after the "orange Maidan", then people are mistaken. In fact, the process began much earlier - even at the moment when the words about the fraternal republics were relevant, it would seem, among the truly overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of both Russia and Ukraine.


It all started against the backdrop of the collapse of the Soviet Union. It was in 1991 that a document appeared in Ukraine that spelled out the rules for the actions of military personnel in the event of an “attack by Russia”. What kind of “attack” could we even talk about in 1991, when the republics, as it was claimed, peacefully dispersed, each choosing its own path? The Ukrainian military had to sign a document that ordered them to take part in hostilities against Russia in the event that they began.

"Anti-Russia" has been nurtured for decades. And it was not at all with Viktor Yushchenko, who “won” the third, unconstitutional round of elections, that everything began. It all started - with the verdict passed on the Soviet Union. A similar verdict was going to be passed against Russia. Cultivation of radical nationalism, oppression of the Russian language, attacks on community stories.

Foreign intelligence agencies began to cultivate a separation from Russia with such intensity that after a few years it began to bear fruit. For the sake of the West, Ukraine, it seemed, was then ready for anything. Even to your own detriment. Three decades later, it becomes clear that this was not at all something apparent. Destructive processes were launched and led to the creation of a territorial entity from the Ukrainian state, which became an open battering ram against the Russian Federation.

Reflections from Nikita Mikhalkov in the next issue of Besogon:

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  1. Borik
    Borik 7 March 2022 11: 55
    +7
    The West has judged itself.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 7 March 2022 11: 58
      +7
      Against the backdrop of ongoing events, the actions of the Russian leadership are becoming more understandable.
      And games with Turkey.
      And pulling back Germany.
      And Putin's irremovability.
      And much more.
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 7 March 2022 13: 47
        +6
        Quote: Flood
        And Putin's irremovability.
        You can imagine what would happen if Platoshkin or Grudinin were commander-in-chief now (I will keep silent about Navalny).
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 8 March 2022 07: 59
          0
          I think in this case Zhirinovsky would have been more reliable, he would have shown these gay Europeans and striped ones where the crayfish hibernate.
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 8 March 2022 08: 18
            0
            Quote: Ros 56
            I think in this case Zhirinovsky would have been more reliable, he would have shown these gay Europeans and striped ones where the crayfish hibernate.
            In 2000, I would definitely agree with this; in 2008 - I would argue; and today I can only wish VVZH a speedy recovery and many more years to come.
    2. prior
      prior 7 March 2022 12: 04
      +14
      The result of this verdict should be the reformatting of all international organizations and relations.
      Where Russophobia flourishes, our feet should not be.
      New international organizations should be geographically located either in Moscow or in Beijing.
      No more Brussels, London and Washington...
      1. kytx
        kytx 7 March 2022 12: 16
        +6
        So it's obvious.
        The world will no longer be the same.
        1. prior
          prior 7 March 2022 12: 19
          +6
          The time to come to the Olympics under a no-man's flag is over.
          And not just for the Olympics...
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 7 March 2022 12: 35
            +3
            Quote: prior
            The time to come to the Olympics under a no-man's flag is over.
            And not just for the Olympics...

            federal channels paid for the right to broadcast the performances of Russian athletes under neutral symbols
            I didn't understand it
            did not watch the Olympics for a single minute

            I hope this was the last Olympics where the Russian team was humiliated
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 7 March 2022 14: 33
          -1
          Quote: kytx
          The world will no longer be the same.
          As long as there is no certainty about what this brave new world will be, the feeling of uncertainty will be more and more pronounced for many people, and anxiety in society will naturally increase. And it will be artificially escalated by alarmists. We must have patience.
          1. kytx
            kytx 7 March 2022 15: 04
            +1
            Well, this ... I'll be banal tarim salt AK match
            Currency cartridge.
            And Sidovich, did you bring the swag?
            Joke yes
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 7 March 2022 15: 09
              0
              Quote: kytx
              Joke yes
              Great for good mood and digestion
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 7 March 2022 12: 19
        +5
        Quote: prior
        The result of this verdict should be the reformatting of all international organizations and relations.
        Where Russophobia flourishes, our feet should not be.
        New international organizations should be geographically located either in Moscow or in Beijing.
        No more Brussels, London and Washington...

        This is what the "civilized" and brazen West itself helps us to do. yes
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 7 March 2022 13: 14
        0
        Quote: prior
        No more Brussels, London and Washington...

        good
    3. venik
      venik 7 March 2022 12: 52
      +1
      Quote: Borik
      The West has judged itself.

      =======
      And now the agony begins! The "collective West" has long been steadily moving towards a powerful systemic crisis. They saw the way out in the collapse and plunder of Russia! It should have given at least some reprieve. If in the early 90s they tried to irrevocably and finally tear off the former union republics from the Russian Federation, in order to prevent the restoration of a new powerful Union State (or a bloc of friendly or allied states) simply out of fear of the possibility of restoring a powerful enemy (he would Russia with the help of a homegrown comprador bourgeoisie were robbed anyway), then as the Russian statehood was restored and strengthened, they began to be gradually "squeezed out" from Russian natural resources. That's when the strategy changed. They ("the collective West") decided to create anti-Russian "rams", the best of which seemed to be ethnically close Ukraine and Belarus. With Belarus - it did not work out .... Then efforts were concentrated on Ukraine.
      The author is not entirely right: initially, only one thing was required of Ukraine: that it should not enter into a close alliance with Russia either in the economic or in the political sphere. But it was precisely with the advent of Yushchenko that they began to form "anti-Russia" from Ukraine with consistent (and I must say very competent) mass "brainwashing"!
      Something like that ....
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 7 March 2022 12: 00
    +5
    With the help of Ukraine, the West tried to pass judgment on Russia
    . Let's preserve internal stability in the country, they won't be able to do anything to us, such that, wow, to smithereens and in half.
    Temporary difficulties can be overcome, and the most preoccupied, inspired, over the hill, will themselves fly into such an ambush, from which they get out for a long time and not without great losses.
    In general, a double-edged sword, as always!
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 March 2022 12: 23
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      With the help of Ukraine, the West tried to pass judgment on Russia
      . Let's preserve internal stability in the country, they won't be able to do anything to us, such that, wow, to smithereens and in half.
      Temporary difficulties can be overcome, and the most preoccupied, inspired, over the hill, will themselves fly into such an ambush, from which they get out for a long time and not without great losses.
      In general, a double-edged sword, as always!

      hi Victor, I want to add that in fact it was not Russia that attacked Ukraine, but Russia delivered the first blow to the United States, literally half a step ahead of the oncoming blow.
      Not to mention the "dirty" nuclear bomb and experiments with biological weapons near Russia.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 March 2022 12: 57
        +2
        Hi Gennady soldier
        There is a feeling that when Pan ZYo started talking about vigorous matters, all gay Europeans tensed up, those who are nearby, for sure ...
        It’s just that now they have an urgent need to try to improve their affairs at the expense of anyone, so their politicians decided, at someone’s prompt/instruction, that it is necessary to squeeze out all preferences from Russia for their loved ones. And here she found a scythe on a stone, for many, it turned out to be unexpected ... because they listened to those who told them pleasant things and did not want to read history, remember the orders of their ancestors, and in general, be guided by common sense.
        However, it may be that capital letters have their skeletons in the closet, which can be put on public display ... maybe something else, up to banal delusions !!! In general, FIG knows why, the gay European leaders are digging a grave for their union ???
        It’s unpleasant for us, it will even be hard somewhere, but our people have a greater margin of safety than all of them combined !!!
        Break through, not the first time!
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 7 March 2022 18: 19
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          because they listened to those who told them pleasant things and did not want to read history,

          As clichéd as it sounds, that's exactly what it is.
          The political elite of the West, led by the Anglo-Saxons, simply has a low level of intelligence due to the absence of any rivalry for many years.

          Quote: rocket757
          It’s unpleasant for us, it will even be hard somewhere, but our people have a greater margin of safety than all of them combined !!!

          I met with representatives of medium-sized businesses, so they have a confident and cheerful mood. Of the seven partner German companies, only one, Rehau, announced its withdrawal.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 7 March 2022 19: 12
            +2
            Let's just say .... you need to start doing everything, inside and out.
            Equipment, of course, was easier to buy before, BUT, gay people and impudent people do not want to understand that they are not the only ones, nor the main ones, but at such a pace, they will become nobody at all!
            We are taking a direction to southeast Asia, there, now, unlike Greece, EVERYTHING IS!!!
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 7 March 2022 12: 33
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Temporary difficulties can be overcome, and the most preoccupied, inspired, over the hill, will themselves fly into such an ambush, from which they get out for a long time and not without great losses.
      And the most anxious fellow citizens need to make an offer so that they cannot refuse it.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 7 March 2022 13: 00
        +1
        Foam, sticky dirt ... it's high time to wash it off, to where it belongs!
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 7 March 2022 12: 01
    +6
    Dulles' plan for Ukraine worked one hundred percent. But there are still people of the old Soviet sourdough left, but unfortunately there are few of them left, the youth is mostly saturated with Russophobia, now there is a long way to re-educate them, but with God's help all this will be overcome.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 7 March 2022 12: 28
      +2
      Quote: Giant thought
      Dulles' plan for Ukraine worked one hundred percent. But there are still people of the old Soviet sourdough left, but unfortunately there are few of them left, the youth is mostly saturated with Russophobia, now there is a long way to re-educate them, but with God's help all this will be overcome.

      The first stage of re-education is destruction APU and national battalions. It is the Armed Forces of Ukraine, because, in my opinion, they are worse than the national battalions, because more powerfully armed and ideologically imprisoned for the destruction of Russia.
      Well, enough to carry out some kind of operation, and conduct endless negotiations and offer "corridors" and "pauses" yourself when you have an armed enemy in front of you.
      1. kytx
        kytx 7 March 2022 12: 41
        0
        There is no need to educate anyone there. Tea is not small. Put an end to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Nazism, and then somehow let them cubage themselves. Leave them the police and border troops, and no "strongest armies in Europe" there. Let them even enter the EU into a union of African tribes. There should be no military. Draws. Well, the territory will be slightly different.
      2. Clear
        Clear 7 March 2022 12: 45
        +1
        Quote: Terenin
        Well, enough to carry out some kind of operation, and conduct endless negotiations and offer "corridors" and "pauses" yourself when you have an armed enemy in front of you.

        What do you suggest? belay Now some will foam at the mouth and explain to you that we can’t do this, explain about the fraternal people and the misguided UAF with the national battalions .... and then they will go to dinner.
        It is necessary so - to warn and ... raze everything to the ground, like the national battalions of the inhabitants of Donbass.
        I must say right away that here I am no different from ... compare with anyone. But you need to bring down everyone who does not obey the requirements of our soldiers!
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 7 March 2022 13: 25
          0
          Quote: Clear
          It is necessary so - to warn and ... raze everything to the ground, like the national battalions of the inhabitants of Donbass.
          Do not write me down as a sexist, but it's good that our commander-in-chief is a sensible man, and not a sensitive woman: he does not act like Nazis, but as he should.
          1. Clear
            Clear 7 March 2022 15: 30
            +1
            Quote: sniperino
            Quote: Clear
            It is necessary so - to warn and ... raze everything to the ground, like the national battalions of the inhabitants of Donbass.
            Do not write me down as a sexist, but it's good that our commander-in-chief is a sensible man, and not a sensitive woman: he does not act like Nazis, but as he should.

            And, women feel like they really need to. So then it happens. We will return to our conversation later and see who is right, I am a sensitive woman or a sensible president.
            Stop burying our boys.
      3. sniperino
        sniperino 7 March 2022 13: 15
        -1
        Quote: Terenin
        Well, enough to carry out some kind of operation, and conduct endless negotiations and offer "corridors" and "pauses" yourself when you have an armed enemy in front of you.
        They forgot to clarify: an enemy hiding behind the backs of civilians. There is experience in Syria, it is being used.
    2. laws70
      laws70 7 March 2022 13: 16
      +1
      In the Dulles plan, Ukraine was assigned the role of an instrument for tying Europe to the United States
  4. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 7 March 2022 12: 27
    +4
    Although it was troublesome with this Outskirts, we had nowhere to go. "Z" and our Victory! hi
  5. ancestors from Don
    ancestors from Don 7 March 2022 12: 39
    +1
    Tear Bandera scum, this is the main thing now.
  6. Roksolan
    Roksolan 7 March 2022 12: 42
    +2
    “For a long time it was already possible to predict that this frantic hatred, which is growing stronger and stronger every year in the West against Russia, will ever break the chain. This moment has come ... This whole West has come to express its denial of Russia and block its path to the future."

    Fedor I. Tyutchev
  7. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 7 March 2022 12: 43
    0
    Someone else will say that there are some deceived Vushniks who need to be taken prisoner?
    Brown plague ... And we are still waiting for when there - in the West, well, Ukraine will come to their senses ...
    They will ride when Russian cities are on fire... Let's wait, not answering anything, waiting...
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 7 March 2022 14: 04
      -1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Let's wait, not answering anything, waiting all the time...
      You know what's waiting? If not, then why include Toropyzhka.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 7 March 2022 15: 16
        0
        Quote: sniperino
        You know what's waiting?

        I know what should not be expected and why it is not worth looking for an excuse with weakness. I am sure that only by changing the line of economic development and social orientation, Russia WILL be able to bring about.
        Do you think that the world that did not support the isolation of the Russian Federation welcomes our Abramovich-Usmanovs? Fuck there. He is glad that Russia, having remembered the traditions of the USSR, finally rebuffed the manifestations of Nazism and clicked on the teeth of grinning American imperialism ... And so the process of further development began to encounter some people who had access to the general public, interpreting those very values ​​that fooled the population of Ukraine...
        I remember very well the conviction of N.N. Platoshkin. and I don’t understand at all why Sobchak’s ex-wife and daughter have not yet been removed from office and locked up in apartments for statements?
        Every hour of delay today works against Russia, whose population does not care what happens to the real estate and accounts of Russian oligarchs. For example, I watch every day and rejoice how water went through the SKK ... Even third-party people say that the answers should be timely, so that all this "American gentry" feel the changes in the situation BEFORE and AFTER.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 7 March 2022 15: 45
          -1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Do you think that the world that did not support the isolation of the Russian Federation welcomes our Abramovich-Usmanovs?
          I did not hear greetings addressed to them, but I think that they are cooperating.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          He is glad that Russia, remembering the traditions of the USSR, finally rebuffed the manifestations of Nazism and snapped the teeth of grinning American imperialism...
          I'm not a mind reader at a distance. I only read what they write about, and that's not all. I believe that today there are fewer people in these countries who remember the good relations of the USSR with China and other countries that did not support the isolation of the Russian Federation than those who see good relations with the Russian Federation and want to develop them.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Even third-party people say that answers should be timely
          Anyone will confirm this. But I have no idea by what criteria third-party people judge the timeliness or untimeliness of answers. And if they do not clearly say anything about this, but only make unfounded accusations of the authorities of inaction, I believe that outsiders may have their own personal interest in this.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 7 March 2022 15: 52
            0
            Quote: sniperino
            I did not hear greetings addressed to them, but I think that they are cooperating.

            But I'm not at all sure ... Tell me how Abramovich suggested to dispose of the funds from the sale of Chelsea?
            Quote: sniperino
            But I have no idea by what criteria third-party people judge the timeliness or untimeliness of answers.

            Here are all the questions for Kedmi ...
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 7 March 2022 16: 18
              -1
              Quote: ROSS 42
              And I'm not at all sure
              What are we talking about
              in order to enlist the support of the majority of the 193 members of the UN, they had to move from condemning the actions of the Russian Federation to “regret” and demanding an end to the special operation. As a result, 141 states voted in favor, 5 against: Russia, Syria, Belarus, Eritrea, North Korea. 35 representatives abstained, including China and India.
              Quote: ROSS 42
              Can you tell us how Abramovich proposed to dispose of the proceeds from the sale of Chelsea?
              Since you don’t know the criteria for your assessment, but you refer to Kedmi, it’s better to tell a joke.
  8. zenion
    zenion 7 March 2022 12: 53
    0
    First, it was necessary to cause displeasure in Ukraine every day by saying that Ukraine feeds Russia. In 1989, crops began to be destroyed in the fields and meat and butter were destroyed at the bases. All that was needed for life only in the markets. Even then, groups began to form to seize power in the regions and villages. Already at that time there was no power of the Soviets in the west of Ukraine. The robbery and appropriation of state property and sale abroad began. They acted according to the old principle - pidpalu hut, so that the suside needs to burn. They burned everything. And Russia was to blame. They saw that everything was done wrong, why they didn’t stop, why they didn’t take the matches.
  9. laws70
    laws70 7 March 2022 13: 29
    0
    This is the first issue of Besogon that I have watched. Then I will watch everything.
  10. Alex russia
    Alex russia 8 March 2022 22: 06
    0
    That's right, it was the West that forced Putin to send troops and conduct a military operation in Ukraine, just like the Anglo-Saxons forced Hitler to conduct a military operation on the territory of the USSR, history likes to repeat itself wassat
  11. Dedok
    Dedok April 5 2022 08: 10
    0
    again, some kind of rubbish was written to us: back in the mid-80s, many Ukrainians went to their "homeland", as a result, later they said that in the evening young people meet them in this homeland and ask in the language - if you don't answer - you get it "from hand and from foot "There's no one to complain to...