Iran: general bravado - atomic root?

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The IMCMEX-16 exercises in the Strait of Hormuz, launched by the September 2012, are considered by some experts not only as a demonstration of the power of the coalition forces, but also a prologue to striking Iran.

In the 12-day maneuvers involved ships from 25 countries (according to other data - more than 30), led by the United States. On this occasion, the first vice-president of the Russian Academy of Geopolitical Problems Konstantin Sivkov сказалthat "the exercises are designed to work out the joint actions of the naval forces, aviation, marine corps from around the world in solving the rather difficult task of unlocking the strait. I believe that still the main goal of the exercises is precisely this. ” And twenty-five countries mean a strong coalition that the United States put together in its anti-Iranian plans, Sivkov said.



As for the determination of the West and Israel to strike at Iran’s nuclear facilities, according to the expert, it is “quite large”. True, at the moment, "in the military-strategic respect, there is no force necessary for an effective strike on Iran." The creation of such forces “will require significant material resources, significant financial investments, in a crisis this is very problematic for the West. As for Iran, Iran will be able to repel the strike of an aviation group of 300 to 500 aircraft. ” With a larger number of attacking aircraft, “somewhere around 1,5-2 thousand aircraft, Iran’s air defense forces will be suppressed, and the task of defeating Iran’s nuclear program can be solved. But 1,5-2 thousand cars is a very large-scale grouping, which is not being created at this stage. ” And “300-500 vehicles, mind you, this is a lot, should be concentrated almost 80 percent of the aircraft carrier fleet USA".

Therefore, the analyst believes, the operation against Iran will fail. Another thing is raids like strikes against Tripoli and Benghazi (1982), such strikes, according to Sivkov, are possible.

However, experts do not talk about an immediate attack on Iran. That's another thing - after the elections in the United States, more precisely, after the New Year, after the inauguration of the American president. Especially if warlike Mitt Romney is done. It was then that someone would definitely hit someone.

In September, the participants of the Luxembourg Club at the meeting in Geneva are many they said that a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities will still be inflicted. And it can happen just after the inauguration of the new US president. This is foreseen by retired generals.

Famous expert, head of the Middle East Institute Yevgeny Satanovsky believesthat "the maximum likelihood of a worsening of the situation in Iran is between January and July, but this does not mean that it will not happen earlier." Opinion, of course, very vague.

In the case of "aggravation" Iran can deliver a preemptive strike. Recently, the brigadier general of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Amir Ali Hajizade expressed on the topic of war. Tehran will not begin its start, but it can preemptively strike Israel at the moment when it “lifts a hand” for an attack. And at the same time Iran attacks the US bases in Bahrain, Qatar and Afghanistan. And in general, according to the general, the enemies of the Islamic Republic are not able to appreciate all of its military power.

Sometimes - and, perhaps, often - it seems that the Iranian military underestimate the enemy. For example, the deputy commander of the IRGC, Hossein Salami, said that Israel does not pose any threat to Iran, because it is not even able to deal with the Palestinians. “It is enough for an infantry battalion to smash the backbone of this so-called state in one day, the width of which in some places does not exceed 24 kilometers,” said Salami.

Thus, we note that if the Iranians seem to have a battalion of guards enough for Israel, then in order to get rid of America, Iran will first show Bahrain, Qatar and Afghanistan where the crayfish spend the winter. This is not to mention the blocking of Ormuz, where the naval forces of 25 countries are now training to fight with Iran.

This Iranian bravado (however, the usual) against the background of European and American sanctions and the policy of Israel’s threats looks at least strange. In addition, the Tehran Air Force has already outdated (unlike Israeli), Shahab-3 missiles will not reach Israel, and Sejil missiles (able to cover a distance over 2000 km) will reach, but their accuracy leaves much to be desired (however Tehran would not fall into Palestinian autonomy) . The Hezbollah attacks on Israeli territory are likely to be preemptive strikes, but Israelis know how to deal with this: the dome, shelters, response missiles, and so on.

So bravado. Iran is capable of military actions, and it is likely that they will carry them out in the event of aggression. But to act immediately on five fronts - in Israel, Bahrain, Qatar, Afghanistan and the Strait of Hormuz, which will have to be mined, Iran simply cannot. And he will not be able to withstand a coalition of 25-30 states.

What caused such bravado of generals and high-ranking officials of Iran? The answer is the same: work on the creation of nuclear weapons. Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister, is likely to be right, and six months later, Tehran will make a corresponding announcement.

One may doubt this, but Tehran has only one way to prevent or stop military aggression: declare the presence of an atomic bomb. Ahmadinejad probably heard about the fate of Hussein and Gaddafi and knows what is happening in Syria, where they are fighting on the side of Assad, including the divisions of the IRGC. To avoid being trapped by “democratizers,” the Iranian president took radical measures that the international community for some reason does not want to recognize as activity in the sphere of the “peaceful atom”. In the end, the States do not come together in the DPRK, and Israel also has atomic weapons.

If we assume that Iranian officials, for example, the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, Fereydun Abbasi-Davani, are telling the truth, and Tehran not going to enrich uranium above 20% (and this is done because of the impossibility, due to unilateral sanctions imposed by Western states, to acquire on the world market the 20-percent nuclear fuel necessary for the Tehran research reactor), and generally enriches only up to 3,5%, then bravado Iranian military does not look very nice. In fact, these are empty words against the backdrop of formidable military exercises conducted by the anti-Iranian coalition in the Strait of Hormuz. And these words are worth no more than the recent statements by Kim Jong-un of a planned missile attack on the offices of South Korean media that incorrectly illuminated the ceremonial events in Pyongyang.

By the way, not everyone in Israel believes that atomic weapons are being created in Iran. In an interview with the newspaper "Haaretz" Chief of the General Staff, General Beni Gantz saidthat Iran is not trying to make an atomic bomb: “Iran is gradually approaching the moment when it will be able to start producing an atomic bomb. He has not yet decided whether to take a decisive step for this. While its installations are not samples of bombs, but this program remains too vulnerable from the Iranian point of view. If the chief executive, Ayatollah Ali Khomeini, wants this, he will be able to give orders for the production of the atomic bomb, but first he must decide. So it will be if Khomeini considers that he is invulnerable in retaliation. I think that he would have made a huge mistake, and I do not think that he would take a decisive step in this direction. I think the Iranian government is made up of very sober-minded people. But I agree that such power is dangerous in the hands of Islamic fundamentalists, who in special cases could have a different calculation. ”

The myth of the Iranian military nuclear program, according to V. Mihin, was fabricated by the Anglo-Saxons after the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. "The strategic plan of the West, - пишет he later envisaged the seizure of Iran into ticks from the territory of these two neighboring countries and full control over the country, its economy and politics, as it was in the days of the Shah. At that time, the US and British secret services spread false information about the so-called. Tehran’s nuclear program, as they did with Saddam Hussein’s alleged weapons of mass destruction program. ”

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in the framework of the UN General Assembly, where he was to discuss about the "nuclear problem", has already made several statements. By the way, America met comrade Ahmadinejad and his people unkindly: the USA not given twenty visas to Iranian representatives intending to participate in the General Assembly, and the residents of New York came up with posters "Ahmadinejad has no place in New York" and demanded that the Iranian delegation be expelled from the United States. (American “hospitality”, whose legs and arms grow straight from American propaganda, finds, of course, a worthy response throughout the world).

Ahmadinejad, as expected acted criticizing Israel: “We see that some members of the Security Council, who have veto power, have decided to close their eyes to the nuclear warheads of one fake regime. At the same time, they impede scientific progress in other countries. ”

Iranian President tried to break through the thick barrier of Western propaganda, contact to journalists with the following philippines: “If someone invades the US and occupies them, destroying homes with children and women, jailing young Americans, unleashing five different wars with neighbors and threatening others, what will you do !?” What would you say to that? Will you help this country? Or will you help the people of the United States !? ”And further:“ Why does the world allow us to allow threats against such a country with deep roots and historyhow is Iran? Great country. Do you think that the “X” country can declare that it is attacking the “YPC” country only on the basis of suspicions that it is doing something unacceptable? Could this be a formula to control the world? ”

As for the "nuclear problem", it is not, because Iran was ready now готов make a deal with the West: “We have no problems with its discussion, we always wanted a dialogue. We have a clear logic: we are convinced that if everyone adheres to the letter of the law and each side respects the other, no conflicts will occur. ”

But this is not enough for the West считает Ahmadinejad. The goal of the West is not a “nuclear issue”, but the overthrow of the Iranian government and the establishment of its own order in the region. “Do you really believe that the nuclear program has the whole root of the problem?” Do you believe that we have several tons of 3,5% enriched uranium? And you also believe that this is only the only problem for those who put enormous pressure on us? .. "

On another occasion, turning to the press, Ahmadinejad demanded from the IAEA for this agency to be taken over by Israel, which does not allow any inspectors to inspect their nuclear facilities. Interest in the activities of Iran, while completely ignoring Israeli atomic weapons, Ahmadinejad called "evidence of double standards" of the UN Atomic Energy Agency.

Thus, around the "nuclear problem" of Iran, there were so many statements associated with a huge number of conjectures, opinions and ridiculous rumors, peppered with dangerous military rhetoric from both Israel and Iran, that predict the possibility of war between the forces of the Israeli-Western coalition and the Islamic Republic - occupation extremely ungrateful.

One thing is clear: if Ahmadinejad and his generals talk about defense, then Israel and the West, on a short leash with which the IAEA is located, are playing their tricks in full cheeks. The West’s tendency to bombings and interventions emphasize not only and not so much the teachings in the Strait of Hormuz as the past US and NATO military operations in the Middle East, the fire of the “Arab spring” and support for the “opposition” in Syria (where, by the way, the Americans also began an intensive search Omp). President Ahmadinejad cannot wish his country the fate of Iraq or Libya.

Observed Oleg Chuvakin
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    1. Yarbay
      +8
      27 September 2012 08: 31
      ** Chief of the General Staff General Beni Ganz said that Iran is not trying to make an atomic bomb: “Iran is gradually approaching the moment when it will be able to start producing an atomic bomb. He had not yet decided whether to take a decisive step for this. While its installations are not examples of bombs, but this program remains too vulnerable from the Iranian point of view. If the top leader of Ayatollah Ali Khomeini wants this, he will be able to order the production of the atomic bomb, but first he must make a decision. So it will be if Khomeini considers that he is invulnerable in retaliation. I think that he would make a huge mistake, and I do not think that he will take a decisive step in this direction. I think that the Iranian government consists of very sober people. ** - I think these are sober thoughts, as far as I know from the media and Russian services the same opinion!
      1. +10
        27 September 2012 08: 53
        Another thing is raids similar to strikes on Tripoli and Benghazi (1982) - such strikes, on Sivkov, are possible.

        Then possible attacks on Israel and the renegades
        1. Odessa
          +7
          27 September 2012 09: 07
          Vadivak,
          Raids are another matter

          Libya bombing is now called a raid?
        2. Isr
          Isr
          -5
          27 September 2012 17: 59
          Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
          Sejil missiles (capable of covering distances of over 2000 km) will fly by, but their accuracy leaves much to be desired (as if Tehran would not fall into Palestinian autonomy).

          When will you finally understand that everyone spits on the "Palestinian autonomy". Were it not for Israel, the question of the Arabs who live there would not have arisen and the world would not have learned about the "Palestinians".
          If anyone does not know, then during the second Lebanese, a hezbollah fired at an Arab village, and killed several children there, so Nasrallah phoned his dad to apologize, and he tells him there’s nothing to worry about, there’s no problem. If they do not value their children, then who needs them?
          1. novik225
            +1
            28 September 2012 09: 57
            What, really? so straight and said - "no problem"? Well, of course, tady, you can shoot / burn / bombard ALL Arab children!
      2. +1
        27 September 2012 08: 53
        Quote: Yarbay
        I think that the Iranian government consists of very sober people. ** - I think these are sober thoughts, as far as I know from the media and Russian services the same opinion!

        There are many such people with a hard-driven ideology in the country, including the leadership. And they can’t succeed in taking Iran immediately. To begin with, they need to resolve the issue with Syria, well, and then maybe Iran. But not a fact! what
        1. Yarbay
          +7
          27 September 2012 08: 59
          Quote: INTER
          There are many such people with a hard-driven ideology in the country, including the leadership. And they can’t succeed in taking Iran immediately. To begin with, they need to resolve the issue with Syria, well, and then maybe Iran. But not a fact!

          It has been discussed more than once here !!
          I am sure that nobody is going to occupy Iran !!
          It will be bombed, thrown back about 50 years, created * security zones *, plunged into chaos and a protracted civil war by the hands of separatists and organizations like * Mujahedin-e-Halgh *!
          1. +1
            27 September 2012 09: 14
            Quote: Yarbay
            Ukami separatists and organizations like * Mujahideen-e-Khalq *!

            I think in Iran it will not be so easy to do it! Since this is an established Islamic state with a history, in addition, all Muslims, even those listed by you, are slowly transferring their aggression to the West after the famous film and cartoons of the Islamic Republic of Iran. In addition, Iran declares that in the event of an attack on them, they will attack Israel. And he knows what role he plays in this game.
            * Mujahideen-e-halgh *! Khalg is understandable (people), but what does Mujahideen (Mujahideen?) Mean?
            1. Yarbay
              0
              27 September 2012 09: 42
              Quote: INTER

              I think in Iran it will not be so easy to do it!

              Believe me, not hard !!
              The Azerbaijanis there are quite strongly politicized and united, plus they have such fighting experience !! Kurds have been fighting from the PUA for how many years!
              Part of the population is tired of the regime!
              Quote: INTER
              In addition, Iran declares that in the event of an attack on them, they will attack Israel.

              This is the usual bravado, designed to support the Arabs!
              Quote: INTER
              And he knows what role he plays in this game.

              I know!
              Quote: INTER
              * Mujahideen-e-halgh *! Khalg is understandable (people), and what does Mujahideen (Mujahideen?

              Yes. This is a military-political organization that has been waging an armed struggle against this regime for 30 years!
              1. +1
                27 September 2012 09: 53
                Quote: Yarbay
                Yes. This is a military-political organization that has been waging an armed struggle against this regime for 30 years!

                Supported by the West?
                1. Yarbay
                  +3
                  27 September 2012 10: 04
                  Quote: INTER
                  Supported by the West?

                  At different times supported by different forces!
                  During the war in Iraq, they were based in Iraq, enjoyed the support of Saddam and actively participated in Iraq's offensive operations!
                  Then different countries, neighbors helped, now they are probably supported by the West!
                  A very serious military organization!
                  1. +1
                    27 September 2012 10: 34
                    Kurds, for example, at one time supported the USSR, through Bulgaria, screwing screws into the pads of Turkey, Iran, Iraq
                  2. +1
                    27 September 2012 13: 58
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    A very serious military organization!

                    Do they have successes inside Iran?
                    1. Yarbay
                      0
                      27 September 2012 14: 00
                      Quote: INTER
                      Do they have successes inside Iran?

                      I do not know what you call success !!
                      Periodically commit acts of terrorism, have a ramified underground!
              2. 0
                27 September 2012 13: 23
                Especially considering the number of youth there
    2. +11
      27 September 2012 08: 38
      The fact that Iran’s nuclear weapons are not the reason for Western aggression is as clear as twice two ...
      The reason is the desire of the West to control the region and access to the Caspian Sea, as well as based on logic, consolidation on the southern Russian borders.
    3. +11
      27 September 2012 08: 51
      Iran just wants to survive, and its leaders do not allow blood and devastation in their country. Is it possible to hate them for this ??? Iran does not produce terrorism, does not kill civilians. The last country that is the guarantor of stability in the region. The hypocrisy of the West is striking in its scale, to burn them all in hellish flame !!!
      1. Yarbay
        +1
        27 September 2012 08: 54
        Quote: JonnyT
        Iran just wants to survive, and its leaders do not allow blood and devastation in their country.

        Here I do not agree with you!
        Iran has far-reaching plans, which the leader of the Iranian revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini, announced the year 1979!
        1. 0
          27 September 2012 09: 31
          Quote: Yarbay
          Iran has far-reaching plans, which the leader of the Iranian revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini, announced the year 1979!


          Could you write more about this?
          1. Yarbay
            +1
            27 September 2012 09: 53
            Quote: JonnyT
            Could you write more about this?

            There aren’t enough pages to write about this in detail!

            EXPORT OF THE ISLAMIC REVOLUTION IS THE BASIS OF THE FOREIGN POLICY COURSE OF TEHRAN !!
            Here is an interesting article if you want to read!
            http://www.rau.su/observer/N14_93/007.HTM

            What is the declared Khomeini-World Quds Day !!
            in August 1979, 6 months after the victory of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, proclaiming the last Friday of the blessed month of Ramadan as World Quds Day,
            http://www.slovoirana.com/?_action=articleInfo&article=1032
            1. +2
              27 September 2012 17: 08
              Quote: Yarbay
              SPORT OF THE ISLAMIC REVOLUTION IS THE BASIS OF THE FOREIGN POLICY COURSE OF TEHRAN !!
              Here is an interesting article if you want to read!

              Yarbay read the article, thank you for the link, although it was not intended for me. The situation is interesting. The struggle for dominance. Russia in some way even turns out to be beneficial weakening of Iran, as an adversary in the Central Asian and Transcaucasian regions.
              1. Yarbay
                +3
                27 September 2012 17: 23
                Quote: baltika-18
                Yarbay read the article, thank you for the link, although it was not intended for me. The situation is interesting. The struggle for dominance. Russia in some way even turns out to be beneficial weakening of Iran, as an adversary in the Central Asian and Transcaucasian regions.

                I do not know!!
                for me, it’s intended that for the most part these are not legitimate aspirations — it is a screen !!
                Normal panfarsism !!
                and I want to add that the article is still quite old, but has not lost relevance!
        2. minvard
          +1
          27 September 2012 12: 36
          What are Turkey’s plans? can answer
          1. whispering
            +2
            27 September 2012 14: 36
            minvard,
            RIPPING THE KUSH .... AND HOW ALWAYS .... Turkey is now a puppet doll in the hands of the West ... where they will order it and go ...
            1. tekinoral
              0
              2 October 2012 00: 46
              besides Armenia, there is no puppet state in the region,
            2. Kamilla
              +1
              2 October 2012 11: 36
              Quote: Shota
              RIPPING THE KUSH .... AND HOW ALWAYS .... Turkey is now a puppet doll in the hands of the West ... where they will order it and go ...


              I smiled .... and Armenia is a "formidable" enemy or what ?? and not a puppet in someone's hands ... wow ... yes you are a storyteller ... laughing
          2. tekinoral
            0
            2 October 2012 00: 50
            Turkey's plans for you to disappear and Karabakh
        3. wax
          -2
          27 September 2012 14: 31
          US plans, which are continuously updated, go much further.
        4. whispering
          -1
          27 September 2012 14: 34
          Iran has far-reaching plans, announced back in 1979 by the leader of the Iranian revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini! ................... so what? let them go? to whom does he interfere? Baku? .. Israel? or do you think the USA? .....
    4. Darck
      +2
      27 September 2012 08: 51
      Kim Jong-un’s recent statements about a planned missile attack on South Korean media offices that incorrectly illuminated the ceremonies in Pyongyang.
      Oh madam, the teddy bear was offended and his anger will be terrible ....
      Another time, turning to the press, Ahmadinejad demanded that the IAEA deal with Israel, which does not allow any inspectors to inspect their nuclear facilities. Ahmadinejad called the interest in Iran’s activities while completely ignoring Israeli atomic weapons “evidence of double standards”
      Iran signed a declaration on the non-possession of nuclear weapons, received help and money from it, unlike Israel, which did not sign and received nothing, so unlike Iran, the IAEA owes nothing. So Maho over either to refresh the memory, or already to end to carry nonsense.
      Iran does not produce terrorism
      PKK, Hezbollah, etc. All this is the work of Iran, and they do not even hide it.
    5. biglow
      +2
      27 September 2012 09: 03
      Specialists on specialized sites write that Iran is at least 5 years old before nuclear weapons. Amerikosy and Israel also know this, but it is beneficial for them to build up tension for their purposes
    6. +2
      27 September 2012 09: 06
      Iran’s bravado is understandable, to raise patriotism and morale. Just a strike at one nuclear facility does not guarantee that there will be no retaliatory strike. If they begin to bomb completely and everything and everything, otherwise Iran can respond in such a way that it doesn’t seem enough. It means a long bloody warrior with a bunch of participants and complete destabilization of not only the Middle East , but also of the world, with catastrophic economic consequences, even without taking into account the overlap of the strait by Iran. Europe will pour urine into tanks, not gasoline. The main suppliers of Bahrain, Qatar and the Saudis will be under attack and someone will not see oil supplies. Then there will be a warrior for the survival of the economy, the less oil, the more fierce the warrior and larger. hi
      1. 0
        27 September 2012 13: 25
        There are a fairly large number of African countries that also supply oil, Russia, Venezuela, Norway. There are strategic reserves. The jump will be - but the question is how significant.
      2. wax
        +1
        27 September 2012 14: 38
        A blow to Iran will hammer the last nail into the coffin, called "non-proliferation of nuclear weapons." If civilized white people with big clubs lower them on any head they don't like, then what to do? To go to the demonstration? (this is welcomed by baton owners). Or, if you really do not equalize the chances, then at least get the opportunity in response not weakly in the face to call? The answer is obvious.
        1. 0
          27 September 2012 20: 43
          Quote: Wax
          A blow to Iran will hammer the last nail into the coffin, called "non-proliferation of nuclear weapons."
          God created people and Mr. Colt called them equal
        2. Common sense
          -1
          28 September 2012 00: 27
          On the contrary.
          It will immediately become clear to everyone that trying to create nuclear weapons is more expensive for themselves.
          But if Iran does create a bomb, and it won’t do anything for it, then a dozen more countries will begin to develop their nuclear weapons, and a new round of armed race will begin .. maybe the last.
    7. +4
      27 September 2012 09: 24
      Off topic ..... The article made fun Russian Academy
      where is the word Russian with a small letter and the academy with a capital!
    8. 0
      27 September 2012 09: 27
      What’s interesting is that the outbreak of war by the West and the United States in Afro-Asian countries does not consolidate Muslim society, on the contrary, it divides it, so that the unity of Muslims turns out to be a bluff
    9. 0
      27 September 2012 09: 27
      Since Ayatollah Ali Khomeini has a strong influence in the Islamic world, as well as authority, he can easily raise a storm in the Middle East with his appeal. If people rebel en masse throughout the region, then I don’t even know what the West will do. They are unlikely to decide on a large-scale punitive war.
      1. 0
        27 September 2012 13: 26
        He has influence in the world of Shiite Islam. And then - not in everything.
        1. Yarbay
          0
          27 September 2012 13: 32
          Quote: Pimply
          He has influence in the world of Shiite Islam. And then - not in everything.

          there are many of them and they are all over the world !!
    10. Drappier
      +1
      27 September 2012 09: 33
      No, leave Iran alone.
      1. Odessa
        +6
        27 September 2012 10: 12
        Drappier,
        No, leave Iran alone.

        I think it’s not just that they are withdrawing the military contingent from Afghanistan. They cannot be inactive for a long time. It is possible that this is not a withdrawal, but a transfer to another area. Anything can be expected from them.
        1. Drappier
          0
          27 September 2012 11: 03
          Not everything is as simple as it seems, brought there, introduced there wassat they also need to vparit something to Congress, explain why it would suddenly, UWB need to lay down their warriors in Iran. Although the Yankees are not far away, they are tricky to invent
    11. Beck
      -1
      27 September 2012 09: 56
      Some, on the website, thought up to themselves that the USA needs to get to the Caspian Sea before cutting through Iran. And now they are fanning fiction. What did the USA survive from the mind, or what? They can buy oil in other places. And how to poke right? Does Russia need this? Does Kazakhstan need this? Does Azerbaijan need this? The United States is well aware that the Caspian is a direct clash with the countries of the region. And the US never stuttered that they needed Caspian oil.

      It is possible that Iran will only be able to approach the atomic warfare in five years. But if you do not speak now, then it will probably be too late. And suddenly, not after 5, but after four years. Better to warn now than to rake up the dirt later.
      Pakistan also has nuclear weapons, but it has not threatened anyone with nuclear weapons and is not trying to establish a world Islamic order.

      In my opinion, the article exaggerated the ability of Iran to repel massive, modern air raids. And the number of allies needed for this aircraft is exaggerated. In addition, there are cruise missiles. Of course, the cost of destroying Iran’s nuclear infrastructure will be large, but at times less than then messing with Iran’s atomic bomb.

      Iran’s statements that in case of conflict they will deliver PREVENTIVE attacks on neighboring countries are generally inhumane and go beyond all frameworks of international relations.

      I foresee the quack of idiots. Then I draw parallels.

      Now there is a diplomatic conflict between China and Japan over the islands. China states. If Japan puts its flags on all five disputed islands, then China will take appropriate measures.

      "China reserves the right, in response to the raising of flags by Japan, to inflict PREVENTIVE strikes on the territories of the Russian Far East, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, South and North Korea, Nepal, the Philippines with all military means available to China. Not excluding, in the event of resistance from these countries , application of nuclear weapons "

      Does Kazakhstan need this? Does Russia need this?
      1. Yarbay
        +2
        27 September 2012 10: 06
        Quote: Beck
        Some, on the website, thought up to themselves that the USA needs to get to the Caspian Sea before cutting through Iran. And now they are fanning fiction.

        Not only on the site !!!
        There are many times more goods in the Persian Gulf than in the Caspian !!
      2. Drappier
        +5
        27 September 2012 10: 18
        UWB to the point of need is not stability, no matter where, in the world, in the region, in space. And oil is like that, journalistic stereotype wassat
        1. Common sense
          -2
          28 September 2012 00: 29
          Why US instability? )))
      3. biglow
        0
        27 September 2012 12: 21
        Beck,
        declare and do it are two big differences. I bet that China will not solve anything. All this conflict with the islands will quietly come to naught, diplomats will settle everything behind the scenes and maintain the status quo.
        The same applies to Iran. Any preventive actions of Iran mean its physical destruction and everyone who rules there understands this. And the rest is propaganda for the masses
        1. Beck
          -2
          27 September 2012 12: 58
          To Biglov.

          Well, of course, China does not dare to do this. He won’t even think about that. I’m giving a comparison that it’s impossible, because of an external threat emanating from one source, to threaten everyone around as the orthodox leadership of Iran does
      4. +1
        27 September 2012 21: 24
        Quote: Beck
        Then I draw parallels. Now the diplomatic conflict between China and Japan over the islands. China states. If Japan puts its flags on all five disputed islands, then China will take appropriate measures.

        Curved parallels turned out.
        Iran will strike, as far as I understand, Iran’s American bases on the territory of the aforementioned states.
        But there are no Japanese bases either in Russia or in Kazakhstan.
    12. Tirpitz
      +1
      27 September 2012 10: 29
      At the beginning of summer it was written that there would be strikes in September, and no one attacked, now they write that after the new year, then they will write that in 2014 ........
      1. 0
        27 September 2012 20: 53
        How many do I live doomsday also predicts every 4 years as the Olympics and attacks on Iran
    13. +2
      27 September 2012 10: 44
      Countries led by religious orthodox people are extremely dangerous and unpredictable. And an ayatola with an atomic bomb is like a monkey with a grenade.
    14. +1
      27 September 2012 10: 55
      peacekeepers will not leave the world alone. that’s what you can do for your own pocket. a couple of loaves in the bay on duty, after 3 months to change, but do not leave
    15. +4
      27 September 2012 11: 31
      Dear Alibak
      . Part of the population is tired of the regime.

      Sorry, what mode? This is a legitimately elected president, and if someone is not happy with his rule, this does not mean that it is a regime. Is everyone in your country or in Russia happy with the government? Let's call everything by their proper names. And do not cherish the shitty media.
      1. Yarbay
        -1
        27 September 2012 11: 36
        Quote: Kolyan 2
        This is a legitimately elected president, and if someone is not happy with his rule, this does not mean that it is a regime. Is everyone in your country or in Russia happy with the government

        Actually my name is Alibek))
        Dear Nicholas, it’s the regime there !! I go there almost every month, I accompany my aunt for treatment!
        After the revolution, a lifestyle was imposed on the people !!
        And they have no choice!
        All candidates must be approved by the Supreme Council of the Revolution!
        Pre-election slogans must be coordinated and so on.
        Quote: Kolyan 2
        Let's call everything by their proper names.

        I call by my own names!
        1. +4
          27 September 2012 15: 04
          can I ask a question? if there is such a poor regimen then why is your aunt being treated there and not at home?
          1. Yarbay
            -1
            27 September 2012 15: 09
            Quote: Ruslan67

            can I ask a question? if there is such a poor regimen then why is your aunt being treated there and not at home?

            Of course you can!
            I don’t like the regime in Germany, but I operated there !!
            What is the treatment and regimen related to ??
            their spiritual values ​​are close to me, but not politics!
            1. +4
              27 September 2012 15: 55
              Well, at least the fact that in a country with a poor regime I would feel uncomfortable and try to keep my stay in it to a minimum, but if you can be treated there normally and regularly come there, maybe everything is not so bad there as they try to imagine?
              1. Yarbay
                0
                27 September 2012 16: 00
                Quote: Ruslan67

                Well, at least the fact that in a country with a poor regime I would feel uncomfortable and try to keep my stay in it to a minimum, but if you can be treated there normally and regularly come there, maybe everything is not so bad there as they try to imagine?

                Well, we do it)))))))))) two days a little, examine and prescribe medication and back home !!
                Regularly account for the treatment !!
                In addition, many come from here and many from there!
                Only for permanent residence exclusively from there they come to us, but I have not heard from us !!
                1. +2
                  27 September 2012 16: 03
                  well, what’s coming to you and not from you is just understandable, fortunately nobody is going to bomb
                  1. Yarbay
                    +3
                    27 September 2012 16: 09
                    Quote: Ruslan67

                    well, what’s coming to you and not from you is just understandable, fortunately nobody is going to bomb

                    No, that’s not the point!
                    It has been a long time since the borders opened!
                    It’s just that they are reluctant to give them citizenship with us, and still many people prefer to stay even with a residence permit!
                    Because there are more freedoms !!
                    Often come to breathe, have fun, that's all they do not have !!
                    Even music was banned until recently !!
                    1. +3
                      27 September 2012 16: 12
                      and you are not afraid that in the case of a serious mess, you may be poured by such a stream that you simply can not cope with it?
                      1. Yarbay
                        +2
                        27 September 2012 16: 15
                        Quote: Ruslan67

                        and you are not afraid that in the case of a serious mess, you may be poured by such a stream that you simply can not cope with it?

                        Not that scary, but alarming !!
                        1. +3
                          27 September 2012 16: 18
                          here it bothers me a bit: you are next to us, and then there’s nowhere else to run to Afghanistan or Armenia, as if this did not become our common problem
                        2. Yarbay
                          0
                          27 September 2012 16: 26
                          Quote: Ruslan67
                          you are next to us, and now there’s nowhere else to run to Afghanistan or Armenia, as if this had not become our common problem

                          Well this of course will be a common problem !!
                          But looking at the actions of amers around the world, I understand one thing, they all calculate to the smallest detail !!
                          And it is quite possible to create such a stream of refugees, then they will announce a certain territory closer to the border as a security zone and there they will collect refugees and train militants !!
                          The main thing for the whole world is that it will look like a humanitarian operation !!
                        3. +3
                          27 September 2012 16: 33
                          what infuriates most of all is that all their grinding-in gadgets and technologies are known to everyone and well studied, but every time it goes through with them and try to do something in advance so the stench will be for the whole world
                        4. Yarbay
                          0
                          27 September 2012 16: 50
                          Quote: Ruslan67
                          what infuriates most of all is that all their grinding-in gadgets and technologies are known to everyone and well studied, but every time it goes through with them and try to do something in advance so the stench will be for the whole world

                          I agree!
                          Although I think that it is simple or not strong enough to do something in advance or they make an offer that others cannot refuse!
                          Alas!
                        5. +2
                          27 September 2012 17: 10
                          or maybe someone just has a desire to fish in troubled waters?
                        6. Yarbay
                          +1
                          27 September 2012 17: 21
                          Quote: Ruslan67

                          or maybe someone just has a desire to fish in troubled waters?

                          So after all, they catch !!
                        7. +2
                          27 September 2012 17: 41
                          Well, in the end they can catch it! and from all at once
                        8. Yarbay
                          +2
                          27 September 2012 17: 43
                          Quote: Ruslan67

                          Well, in the end they can catch it! and from all at once

                          I, as a religious person, that is, a believer in God, am sure that sooner or later they will get through their brains !!
                        9. +5
                          27 September 2012 17: 46
                          it’s unlikely for the brains: judging by their actions, they have a lot of tension with them, but they’ll definitely rake them by the boomerang on prichadal!
      2. +1
        27 September 2012 13: 28
        You know that after the election of the "legitimate president" there have been multimillion-dollar demonstrations. Reformists and conservatives were sharply limited access to real elections. And between the president and Khamenei at the moment there is an acute conflict.
        1. 0
          28 September 2012 10: 22
          Yes, it’s Rafsanjani stirs up water, mobilizing part of the youth of large cities.
    16. sxn278619
      +3
      27 September 2012 11: 40
      Quote
      All those tons of Iranian enriched uranium, which are scared of a foreign citizen by foreigners, and also domestic media, are actually tons of uranium hexafluoride. Judging by the available data, Iran has so far not even approached the production of uranium metal. And, it seems, is not going to deal with this issue in the near future. Therefore, all calculations, how many bombs Tehran can make of the existing uranium, are meaningless. You cannot make a nuclear explosive device out of hexafluoride, even if it can be brought to 90% uranium-235.

      A few years ago, two Russian physicists inspected Iranian nuclear facilities. The mission is classified at the request of the Russian side. But judging by the fact that the leadership and the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation do not join the accusations against Iran, Tehran has not detected the danger of creating nuclear weapons.


      More details: http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2012-09-14/8_uran.html
      1. 0
        27 September 2012 13: 29
        Well, actively not, so as not to lose internal projects. But the sanctions supported.
        1. 0
          28 September 2012 10: 24
          These were purely demonstrative sanctions, which Medvedev still supported.
      2. 0
        27 September 2012 22: 11
        Quote: sxn278619
        how many bombs can Tehran make from existing uranium are pointless.
        I am not in the subject of nuclear weapons, but I need not only a bomb, but also a delivery vehicle, an airplane, a rocket, maybe something else. How to use a bomb without them? And if everyone knows that there is no delivery vehicle, then talking about the Iranian threat is hypocrisy. Correct if not right.
    17. +3
      27 September 2012 11: 57
      greetings to all hi !
      In the manual itself, not everything is so smooth. Here's an interesting nymph.

      Iranian President refrains from commenting on the arrest of his adviser
      TEHERAN, September 27. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is studying the circumstances of the arrest of his adviser, director of the Iranian news agency IRNA Ali Akbar Javanfekr, who is accused of "insulting the country's supreme leader" Ali Khamenei.
      "I received this news quite recently and would like to express my opinion after I study the case in more detail," the Iranian President said during a press conference, Agence France-Presse reports.
      Recall, the head of the Iranian state news agency IRNA Ali Akbar Jawanfekr was sentenced to six months in prison. The media manager was accused of publishing materials that offend the spiritual values ​​of Islam and public morality. According to the prisoner's lawyer, these charges were triggered by the publication in the newspaper of the IRNA agency of an article criticizing Muslim women forced to wear a hijab. The head of the IRNA was also accused of the fact that in 2011, on his personal website, he insulted himself at addressing the supreme leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
      In January, a Tehran revolutionary court sentenced Javanfekr to one year in prison, but after an appeal by the defense, this sentence was commuted to six months in prison. At the same time, it was not disclosed where and when the adviser to the president insulted Khamenei. In addition, by decision of the court, the director of IRNA for five years will not be able to participate in the activities of political parties, groups and associations, as well as the media.
      Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2012/09/27/1039250.html

      There is friction between the president and the ayatollah and they are serious.
    18. bask
      0
      27 September 2012 13: 06
      Well, I like how the Iranians depict the US Flag with skulls, instead of stars, a statue of freedom, in the form of a skeleton. Everything to the point. Iraq was also looking for nuclear weapons. This is a reason for the invasion of Iran. Preparation is probably in full swing.
    19. bask
      0
      27 September 2012 13: 51
      In the article and comments everything was said except the most important What month it will be, if there is a blow to Iran. On nuclear facilities and warehouses with chemical weapons .. This is for the areas bordering the Caspian Sea, the issue of civil defense. I will explain the wind rose from February to April from from south to north. And with the destruction of nuclear and chemical .. objects in Iran by radionuclides, it can easily cover the Astrakhan region of the Republic of Kalmykia. If the Russian territories are exposed to nuclear infection through the fault of the United States and NATO, then what? Deal a nuclear strike? what is the threat of World War 3.
      1. 0
        28 September 2012 10: 26
        I wonder who will tell you this.
    20. whispering
      0
      27 September 2012 14: 45
      and if during this period Baku moves against Iran, then they will not have time to find out how the Armenians will drive football in Baku stadiums .... bully
      1. kNow
        +1
        27 September 2012 14: 53
        Quote: Shota
        Armenians will drive football in Baku stadiums ..

        Shota Shota laughing
        1. whispering
          -3
          27 September 2012 14: 58
          yeah .... we once proved who we are .... wink .... and you showed who you really are ....
          1. kNow
            0
            27 September 2012 21: 47
            schotenka and to whom and what have you proved? We have nothing, maybe someone else? :) it’s good that there is a CSTO :) you are so bold ... The main thing is to take good care of yourself, do massage, make your hair shorter ... :)
            So by the way - in 92, an Armenian deputy was in Baku with a task from the party and the government ... Do you know what kind of task he had? :)
            1. Oleg Rosskiyy
              0
              30 September 2012 16: 35
              kNow,
              You can’t compare it with your courage; you change flags like toilet paper.
              1. kNow
                0
                2 October 2012 18: 40
                Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
                You can’t compare it with your courage; you change flags like toilet paper.

                And with your insight, it would not hurt you to find out that the flags change depending on the Internet provider. I don’t change flags ...
          2. Kamilla
            0
            2 October 2012 11: 15
            Quote: Shota
            yeah .... we once proved who we are.


            when shot ?? really in 1915 ?! fellow
      2. +2
        27 September 2012 15: 07
        with all due respect to Russia's ally, as if the Armenians did not have to escape in Georgia or with us
        1. Kamilla
          0
          2 October 2012 11: 13
          Quote: Ruslan67

          with all due respect to Russia's ally, as if the Armenians did not have to escape in Georgia or with us


          so, it will be unfortunately ... sorry for you.
      3. 0
        27 September 2012 22: 08
        Quote: Shota
        Armenians will drive football in Baku stadiums.
        You are already tired, the topic is not about that. They will raise the question of Karabakh, dive as much as you want.
      4. Kamilla
        +2
        2 October 2012 11: 27
        a little and a little ... do you like to watch "Visiting a Fairy Tale" ?? wassat
    21. -1
      27 September 2012 17: 52
      the day of the US attack on Iran - it will be September 2, 1939 in the 21st century, the countdown of the Apocalypse will begin ...... no less, no more
      1. +1
        27 September 2012 21: 24
        World War II began on September 1, 1939
        1. Van
          0
          28 September 2012 19: 17
          Most likely, if we adhere to the cyclical nature of history, then we need to take the first world (July 28, 1914) tobish (July 28, 2014 +/-) as a countdown.
      2. Oleg Rosskiyy
        0
        30 September 2012 16: 38
        strannik595,
        By this time, the United States will no longer be there, the Revolution "Spring in the New World" will take place there.
    22. botur2013
      0
      27 September 2012 22: 39
      I think the Yankees sooner or later run into a good pendal! And the sooner, the more correct.
    23. Kir
      -2
      28 September 2012 17: 19
      The likelihood of war will remain extremely high as long as Russia only threatens with a finger, but does nothing real, it would be better to load the hardware with real orders and Russia is good, the people are busy with real business and Iran is calm!
      As for the Azerbaijani Diaspora, it is not up to me to say, BUT! and I was one faithful acquaintance from Baku who, in response to a question about who can claim on whose territories, said that Iran-Persia was more likely to have a part of the territory of Azerbaijan than vice versa, and as for Karabakh, the region historically populated by Armenians, if I’m not mistaken, the name of Khachan!
    24. kNow
      0
      28 September 2012 17: 38
      Quote: Kir
      I was one faithful friend from Baku

      Quote: Kir
      said that rather Iran-Persia has a right to part of the territory of Azerbaijan

      Quote: Kir
      As for Karabakh, the region historically populated by Armenians, if I am not mistaken, is called Khachan

      Straight "Boys from Baku", humorist
      1. Kir
        -3
        29 September 2012 15: 24
        Well what can I tell you, read your own authors and History, the same Armenia was more than 5 centuries BC! Khachen's only mistake instead of Khachan!
        1. Kamilla
          0
          2 October 2012 15: 00
          Quote: Kir
          Khachen instead of Khachan!


          there is no swing ...! look at the posts below ... we read well the history, and we studied the History of Albania well ... and this whole territory was Caucasian Albania.
    25. kNow
      0
      1 October 2012 17: 29
      Quote: Kir
      Well what can I tell you, read your own authors and History, the same Armenia was more than 5 centuries BC! Khachen's only mistake instead of Khachan!

      We read different authors.
      http://nofalsify.com/
      can familiarize yourself with you
      1. Neutral
        -3
        2 October 2012 00: 35
        Living well in Azerbaijan
        Akhundov Fuad Ramiz oglu defended his thesis on the topic: "Investigation of the stress field in plane piecewise homogeneous bodies, taking into account physical nonlinearity."
        But he couldn’t feed his family.
        I had to create a site destroyer falsifications falsifier))))))
        What to do, in Azerbaijan nowadays there is only one science "Contrive to bite Armenians more painfully".
        Better yet, sharpen your ax sharper ...
        1. kNow
          +1
          2 October 2012 09: 47
          Quote: Neutral
          I had to create a site destroyer falsifications falsifier))))))

          Wow! You have all the local historians forged forgers laughing Particularly interesting is the section "Armenian Studies of Armenia versus US Armenian Studies"
          Your favorite Huysen Robert:
          "I was convinced in Yerevan - even somewhat impatiently - that we in the West should not bother trying to conduct research, and we would better serve Armenia if we simply reprint in other languages ​​what was developed by the Academy of Sciences of Armenia."
          “Any of us who doubt the local origin of the Armenians, which in itself is a very controversial issue, are branded as anti-Armenians. Other scholars calling for a new approach to the Armenian issue (meaning genocide) are accused of betrayal.


          “The most widely held opinion of the so-called group of“ pseudo-orthodoxy ”, which problems such as incorrect copying of manuscripts, intentional distortions in the editing process, due to which ... work should be regarded as a significantly distorted version of the original text, are openly recognized».
          Avdoyan Levon

          These are called falsifiers.
        2. Kamilla
          +3
          2 October 2012 11: 32
          Quote: Neutral
          I had to create a site destroyer falsifications falsifier))))))
          What to do, in Azerbaijan nowadays there is only one science "Contrive to bite Armenians more painfully".


          hear modish ..... would be silent already, more falsifiers than you do not exist ... the whole world knows this ... wink
          1. Kamilla
            0
            2 October 2012 14: 43
            Lobster's appeal to David

            David, Omar sends greetings to you, and says to behave correctly, or he will continue ..... then it will be time for your people to return to shame in India. I am Omar, I appeal to all Russians who support them and see in us a problem and a deception.
            I will apologize publicly if these citizens of Russia abandon their scientists and spit on the facts, the evidence of their own scientists, and if in spite of this, you say the Armenians are right, I will apologize and say that I am right that I left this SITE .... nothing to do where 2 plus 2 say 3
            My greeting to all my friends !! and my appeal to those Russians who support the Armenians, if after these facts they again say that the Armenians are right, then there’s nothing to do here !!!!
        3. Kamilla
          +3
          2 October 2012 14: 49
          Quote: Neutral

          Living well in Azerbaijan


          David, Omar is watching you. Since you again decided to write about Azerbaijan,
          then hold on. Well, tell us that all these Russian scientists are lying?

          And can you prove that these facts are lies?

























        4. Kamilla
          +2
          2 October 2012 15: 13
          Quote: Neutral
          I had to create a site destroyer falsifications falsifier))))))


          Everyone lies, only you tell the truth.




          1. Kir
            0
            3 October 2012 21: 07
            Well, Fomenko is generally a special question, along with Nosovsky !!! But you were given a specific dating V century BC !!! where is there Albania !! But Armenia and Persia are !!!, and as for the Russianness of the above, the question in general!
    26. Kamilla
      0
      2 October 2012 14: 38
      [center] LOBBY'S APPEAL TO DAVID. [/ center]


      David, Omar sends greetings to you, and says to behave correctly, or he will continue ..... then it will be time for your people to return to shame in India. I am Omar, I appeal to all Russians who support them and see in us a problem and a deception.
      I will apologize publicly if these citizens of Russia abandon their scientists and spit on the facts, the evidence of their own scientists, and if in spite of this, you say the Armenians are right, I will apologize and say that I am right that I left this SITE .... nothing to do where 2 plus 2 say 3
      My greeting to all my friends !! and my appeal to those Russians who support the Armenians, if after these facts they again say that the Armenians are right, then there’s nothing to do here !!!!

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