The Ministry of Defense announced the practical destruction of all combat-ready aviation of Ukraine

Ukraine has lost almost all combat-ready Aviation, over the past two days, the Russian Aerospace Forces have caused significant damage to the Ukrainian Air Force. This is stated by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

According to the official representative of the military department, Igor Konashenkov, on Sunday alone, the Russian Aerospace Forces and Air Defense "landed" three Ukrainian Su-27s and three drone. Thus, on Saturday and Sunday, the Ukrainian Air Force lost 11 combat aircraft and two helicopters, as well as attack drones. Taking into account the planes and helicopters already destroyed on the ground and in the air, it can be stated that Kyiv has practically lost all combat-ready aviation.

The Russian military also warned neighboring countries not to provide their airfields and aircraft to Ukraine for operations against the Russian Aerospace Forces, as this would be considered an attack on Russia.

(...) we know for sure about Ukrainian combat aircraft that had previously flown to Romania and other border countries. Please note that the use of the airfield network of these countries for basing Ukrainian military aviation with subsequent use against the Russian armed forces can be regarded as the involvement of these states in an armed conflict

- declared Konashenkov.

Earlier, the Russian armed forces launched a high-precision strike on the airfield of the Ukrainian Air Force in Vinnitsa, putting it completely out of action. Till this hit is high-precision weapons long-range was applied to the airfield in Starokonstantinov.

Comments

[Dmitry Donskoy]

So 404, as there will be no state, and therefore aviation is useless to her.

[Kuroneko]

It seems that Winston Churchill used to say (and although he was a Russophobe and an enemy with a stigma, he was a smart man): "if you want to ruin some small country, give it a cruiser."
I mean, fewer "litaks" are better for Ukraine and its citizens. One fig is the richest arsenal that Nenka got down the drain after her divorce (in both senses of the word) from the USSR. She sold, sawed (for mattress handouts), handed over for scrap and not only, but - the Sumerians did not have the slightest desire to respect and the ability to use all this once very formidable equipment.
Although once the talk came about the "cruiser" ... Yes, the finale of "Hetman Sahaydachny" did not surprise me at all. The flagship of the Ukrainian Navy has fully fulfilled its role: on saw cuts for its repairs and modernization (in quotation marks, essno), probably something more than a cruiser could have been cut off. But he served the right people, and more than once. "And he died as he lived."

[Nadir]

want to ruin the country. give it Ukraine? (When the Russian Empire annexed Poland)

[Nadir]

we have our own aircraft-carrying cruiser under repair. which is needed now in the black sea. there are many examples of our own

[6erJIblu]

Yesterday they shot down our Su-30. Explain why he flew at such a height with a fab-500. Like with 500m to bomb more accurately?

[Kuroneko]

Excuse me, but from my couch filled with cats (by the way, what did Russian cats do wrong before the West and Ukraine, that sanctions were imposed on them too?), it is difficult for me to play the role of a representative of the General Staff of the Russian Federation. Let's wait for Konashenkov's report and explanation first, okay? And let's not suck our theories out of our finger, and even in an information environment filled with fakes.

[hector]

Sorry, but from my sofa filled with cats (by the way, what did Russian cats do wrong before the West and Ukraine, what sanctions were imposed on them?

Animal racism has manifested itself in the West.

[sniperino]

Quote: ettore

Animal racism manifested itself in the West

We need Greta Thunberg here.

[Kuroneko]

She's still in trouble. She is giving birth. Hundreds of square kilometers of solar panels and hundreds of thousands of windmills, so that dirty Russian gas, oil and coal will never again pollute the expanses of Europe.
Really, all hope for Greta. If she doesn't give birth to this whole thing, Europe will freeze to death in the very first winter.
For even the old man Hottabych, who could conjure such a thing, lived in the USSR.

[sniperino]

Quote: Kuroneko

For even the old man Hottabych, who could conjure such a thing, lived in the USSR.

Yes, they hurried a little with both decommunization and decarbonization, only debilization turned out well.

[Kuroneko]

Now only France is sitting and giggling into a fist - she alone has many nuclear power plants in Europe and she is not going to turn them off.

[BMP-2]

This is not racism, this is zoophobia!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: BMP-2

This is not racism, this is zoophobia!

Not so easy - it's zoorusophobia.

[Kuroneko]

Russian-shkozoophobia! =E
Almost like in a rhyme:

Came to us today
Necropedozophile.
Dead little animals
He brought with him.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Kuroneko

Sorry, but from my couch filled with cats (by the way, what did Russian cats do wrong before the West and Ukraine, what sanctions were imposed on them too?), it’s hard for me to play the role of a representative of the General Staff

Quote: Kuroneko

I mean, fewer "litaks" are better for Ukraine and its citizens. One fig is the richest arsenal that Nenka got down the drain after her divorce (in both senses of the word) from the USSR. She sold, sawed (for mattress handouts), handed over for scrap and not only, but - the Sumerians did not have the slightest desire to respect and the ability to use all this once very formidable equipment.
Although once the talk came about the "cruiser" ... Yes, the finale of "Hetman Sahaydachny" did not surprise me at all. The flagship of the Ukrainian Navy has fully fulfilled its role: on saw cuts for its repairs and modernization (in quotation marks, essno), probably something more than a cruiser could have been cut off. But he served the right people, and more than once. "And he died as he lived."

And how do we differ from them, if we take, for example, Admiral Kuznetsov?

[Kuroneko]

Kuznetsov is a special speech. And that it is being patched up is not a matter of cuts (although I think it’s also not without it).
We need at least something on which naval pilots could maintain their qualifications. Otherwise, everything, and so with difficulty the emerging school will die.
In general, with all the problems of Kuznetsov, even in the Syrian campaign, do not dare to compare him with Sagaidachny. Kuznetsov performed a combat mission, his air wing worked both in reconnaissance and on specific targets. And what did Sagaidachny do in his life? And absolutely nichrome. Only a couple of times he showed the flag outside the Black Sea, portrayed some kind of movement in the amusing NATO schools - immediately somewhere in importance behind Romania - and was ingloriously flooded without even trying to do AT LEAST SOMETHING. (although the right people who have been repairing and modernizing it for many years - in quotation marks - seem to have decided that it would be better to end up in the water right away, knowing the price of both their repair-upgrades and its real combat value)
Or am I wrong?

[Dilettante grandfather]

That's right, but the ship itself is not to blame ...

[yehat2]

coordination of aviation work over Ukraine in general raises a lot of questions
I will not talk about who flies at what height and with what, I have other questions
1. why is there no reconnaissance of strike routes using UAVs? At least 4 of the newest turntables were lost because they did not know about the presence of Ukrainian forces. It's the same with aviation. The technical capabilities of the Russian army are to reconnoiter about 400 km inland from the line of contact. There are a lot of devices, like eagles and others, in the troops.
2. I don't understand the economy that makes very expensive cars and even more expensive pilots fall. Let me remind you that on a mission where 2-4 of our vehicles are sent, the Americans in Iraq sent, as a rule, 16 vehicles organized in pieces, most of which were engaged in the protection of a small strike group.
3. About attacks on airfields. Yes, they cause damage, but if you look at the photos of real destruction, then the runways do not always become incapacitated. I thought that they would draw some conclusions from the experience in Syria to ensure the security of missions, but no - absolutely nothing has been done.

[Grits]

Quote: yehat2

why is there no reconnaissance of strike routes using UAVs?

Yes, for several years we have been joyfully advertised the capabilities of our UAVs. They held exhibitions, where everyone was even confused about the types and number of them. They said that we would soon overtake the United States, Israel and Turkey combined in these devices. But in fact, it turned out that we do not have any UAVs - not only attack, but even reconnaissance ones. Just once showed how Orion works. And that is all. I console myself with the hope that my words are not true and we are simply not given information on their application. All this is sad ... As well as the old armored vehicles. On some video I even saw a column on the BMP-1

[Vadim237]

Today, apparently, another of our planes was shot down on Kharkov.

[kventinasd]

Quote: yehat2

Americans in Iraq sent, as a rule, 16 vehicles organized in pieces, most of which were engaged in the protection of a small strike group.

As a result, more than 70 aircraft were lost.

[yehat2]

they have 70% of non-combat losses - due to equipment, bad weather and accidents.
In addition, for example, they lost 3 Apaches and a blackhawk from bullet hits, which practically does not threaten our helicopters.

[bashkir]

Yesterday at VO in the cart this fake was debunked, do you know how to use social networks? I'll give you a hint. Now the main flow of information goes in the cart. There is only quintessence here. And a very limited flow of information. VO has its own channel! I hope you are not surprised?

[bashkir]

Help me comrades how to make a link to the VO Cart. Well, maybe VO itself will help. I don't give a damn)))

[igor1981]

Type in a telegram in the search for Military Review and that's it

[Incvizitor]

One who is born to jump cannot fly.

[iouris]

No matter how tomorrow arrives. For example, from Romania or, for example, from Poland...

[Karpov Ruslan]

Good evening everyone! Well, unless they decide to check us out! Well, I don't think so!

[Pereira]

Tomorrow we'll see what's coming.

[Lykases1]

No matter how after that they flew to Romania or Poland

[sergo1914]

Quote: iouris

No matter how tomorrow arrives. For example, from Romania or, for example, from Poland...

Don't pee! Our air defense does not like everything that flies. I imagine the situation - people on the MIG-29 or F-16 say: I'm flying from Poland. Glory to Ukraine. At what point in time will the start command be given? Right. Before this phrase appears on the air.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

No matter how tomorrow arrives. For example, from Romania or, for example, from Poland...

Let's say Poland will transfer to Ukraine up to 30 MiG-29s. But what use would they be? Does Ukraine have 30 more fighter pilots with the necessary skills in reserve?

Or will Poland, together with the pilots, supply these MiG-29s?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Or will Poland, together with the pilots, supply these MiG-29s?

Obviously, the pilots will be Poles. World practice confirms this. Our Li-Si-Tsy-Ny in Vietnam and Korea ... an example of this. The question is, will the Polish pilots want to die for the nezalezhnu? Maybe a dozen greedy for dollars
-euro will find.. And they will find their death in Ukraine.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Obviously, the pilots will be Poles.

I do not think that the Poles on the old Soviet MiG-29s will risk their skins against the Su-30/34/35 and possibly the MiG-31 and Su-57.

Especially after Ukraine lost, if not all, then a significant part of its aviation in 10 days.

[Kuroneko]

Purely theoretically, at first, the surprise factor can still play, as was the case with our bomber in Syria, when Turkey put a knife in the back. And the Poles are pumped up with Russophobic propaganda even stronger than the Ukrainians. Poland also has centuries-old grievances, and of all the Slavs, the psheks became more Germanic than anyone else. But the Poles are unlikely to take the risk. This pug barks loudly. But she also understands that if she gets stuck in this unnecessary massacre (do we all remember why the Poles rightfully, even morally, hate Banderlogs?), then this will be the same trigger, like the murder of Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo. Still, there are no such stupid people in the Polish elite.

[Raven 95]

Purely theoretically, it is once again possible to clearly and clearly say to our Minister of Defense in Polish that any aircraft that enters the combat zone without identifying "ours" will be destroyed, in addition, the departure airfield will be hit. And that is all.

[Grits]

Quote: Kuroneko

and of all the Slavs, the psheks were the most Germanized.

I think that the Czechs fraternized with the Germans. Apparently, their beer unites.

[Kuroneko]

You are wrong about the Czechs. Let's not take modern realities, where compradors and mankurts make up the top of the political elite.
The same Hasek in his Schweik truthfully described the realities of the First World War. The Czechs were initially considered unfavorable units on the Eastern Front, because they were already oppressed by Austria-Hungary, and being Slavs. And there was something to consider, oh yes. If you take the trouble to read the historical documents of that time, you will see that many Czech regiments in full strength voluntarily surrendered to the Russians at the first opportunity. Then ordinary Czechs felt the unity of our peoples. Again, read Hasek's biography as well. We are all unfortunate that the disease took him away so early.

[Liam]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

I don’t think that the Poles on the old Soviet MiG-29 will risk

You are an incorrigible optimist ... Polish MiGs in excellent technical condition, with Western radars and missiles, integrated into NATO communication and information exchange systems, will receive all the information and target designation from satellites and AWACS online .. And volunteer pilots and / or retirees will find. Even with a margin.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

possibly MiG-31 and Su-57.

Hmm ...

[Raven 95]

Quote: Liam

.Polish MiGs in excellent technical condition, with Western radars and missiles, integrated into NATO communication and information exchange systems, will receive all the information and target designation from satellites and AWACS online .. And volunteer pilots and / or retirees will be found. Even with a margin .

Do you think that Poland will enter the war with all the ensuing strikes on its territory? And the blows will follow immediately. And you won’t scare any TMV anymore. It's too late to think, we must fight. But the Poles in their NATO still need to prove to everyone that they were subjected to aggression, and not the first to start, even though they were warned.

[Liam]

Quote: Raven-95

Poland enters the war

What the hell is this? Poland does not have the right to sell / transfer / donate, etc., military equipment to Ukraine? The entire West is now driving equipment, weapons, ammunition to Ukraine. What is the problem? Go declare war on NATO for military supplies to Ukraine. I really want to see it.)

Quote: Raven-95

TMV

Why are you. All Russian generals can’t sleep right and dream of burning with their wives and children in a nuclear hell ... right?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Liam

You are an incorrigible optimist ... Polish MiGs are in excellent technical condition, with Western radars and missiles, integrated into NATO communications and information exchange systems

Liam, you are an incorrigible optimist :)))))))

[Liam]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

optimist

I am a realist. And the whole course of this adventure and everything that we see about the real state of Russian military equipment and the Armed Forces in general confirm the most pessimistic expectations

[Kaufman]

we see about the real state of Russian military equipment and the Armed Forces in general

and what do you see? and where do you see it?

[fruc]

I think, in any case, there is still something flying in Ukraine. For example L-39, which can be used. As far as I know, there were such in the Odessa region, and from several units. you can collect something.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

No matter how tomorrow arrives. For example, from Romania or, for example, from Poland...

Let's say Poland will transfer to Ukraine up to 30 MiG-29s. But what use would they be? Does Ukraine have 30 more fighter pilots with the necessary skills in reserve?
Or will Poland, together with the pilots, supply these MiG-29s?

There was a case, in Libya, the Haftarovites dropped the plane of the Sarajivites and took the pilot prisoner. He turned out to be an active pilot of the Belgian Air Force (such as a vacationer on a coven), which confirmed NATO's involvement in the Libyan showdown on the side of Saraji.

[yehat2]

Ukrainians shot down a Romanian MiG-21 fighter
I doubt that they will shoot at non-Ukrainians.

[Kuroneko]

"What, son, did your Poles help you? (c) "Taras Bulba", Gogol (Russian writer from Little Russia)

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Kuroneko

Gogol (Russian writer from Little Russia)

Ukrovikipedia says

Russian writer of the Ukrainian campaign

Here Nikolai Vasilyevich would be surprised to know that he is a "Ukrainian adventure"!

[Fisherman]

This is how much they pay each ukroletun who risks flying into our columns in the current situation? The amount should be posthumous in theory. Kamikaze!

[Kuroneko]

It was very unsafe to fly on Ukrainian "litaks" even in peacetime. But there was at least a lottery - you'll be lucky if this worn-out galosh does not bark on mother earth or not. Well, at least now scrap metal will stop falling from heaven. Nothing already.

[Grits]

Quote: Fisherman

This is how much they pay each ukroletun who risks flying into our columns in the current situation? The amount should be posthumous in theory. kamikaze

That's why they promise crazy payouts. They know that, most likely, there will be no one to pay.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Fisherman

This is how much they pay each ukroletun who risks flying into our columns in the current situation? The amount should be posthumous in theory. Kamikaze!

Stop it. How much do we get paid? They also ate ryoshka.

[tralflot1832]

And what do international laws say? Planes that have flown to adjacent territory must be interned. As it is uncomfortable, computer game lovers are getting stuck in Europe.

[iouris]

What laws? The old world is destroyed. There is only one law: you either hit very painfully (but gently) or keep silent in a rag.

[hector]

There is only one law: you either hit very painfully (but gently) or keep silent in a rag.

Ka was said in one film: "It is necessary to beat so that the enemy does not have a desire to stand up and repeat"

[Kuroneko]

You know, I'm just now thinking about all the cases of internment of military equipment and crews known to me ... It's a strange thing, no matter where you stick it - internment was almost always carried out in the interests of the Anglo-Saxons, no matter in which country it took place. But when they didn’t need it, it was usually something like this ... without internment, things got along.

When a gentleman cannot win by the rules, he changes them.

[tralflot1832]

We'll see tomorrow. The night is long.

[Kuroneko]

Our guys on the front line will not sleep for a long time, alas. But they are highly motivated. Beat the fascist beast in his own lair.

[Kesha1980]

So the war is not declared - just an operation. And they flew over in view of "they flew past - the engines were smoked, I was looking for where to land nearby." Yes, and the official was only about one side, and now the talk has obviously gone about even several countries of landing.
Right now, someone will start: "proofs to the studio!"). I won't be surprised.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

Aircraft flying to adjacent territory must be interned.

If something flies out of Romania, then something will fly in to Romania, and "it" will not make out who is there, ukro.p or Romanians.

[Ryzhyv]

Well, something has already flown. MiG-21 and the turntable fell in one place. Nobody understood what it was. And they did not even have time to cross their border. Like the Bermuda Triangle.

[Sadam]

Probably, at the request of the legal government, it can be delivered. Assad received assistance in Syria. I don't see a fundamental difference

[Cheburashka]

Quote: iouris

No matter how tomorrow arrives. For example, from Romania or, for example, from Poland...

I don’t treat you kindly in the light of your comments, but there is already infa that the United States gave the go-ahead for the supply of aircraft to the coalition against Russia ...
https://t.me/topwar_ru/29135

[Thrifty]

Cheburashka therefore, it is necessary to tightly notice the airspace from the side of Poland, where weapons and ammunition are massively collected for transportation to Ukraine! Planes will fly from there!

[bober1982]

Quote: Thrifty

From there, the planes will fly!

There, in Poland, there are not so many airfields - Brzeg, Shprotava, Zhagan, Kshiva, where you can fly from them - nowhere, well, maybe to Lviv, although they won’t reach it, they shoot everything down.

[matwey]

Where is the broadcast? You can also draw a line.

[Mister X]

Quote: Cheburashka

The United States gave the go-ahead for the supply of aircraft to the coalition against Russia ...

Are airfields still in Ukraine?

[bober1982]

Quote: Mister X

Are airfields still in Ukraine?

Of course, there are simply countless number of airfields in Ukraine.

[Mister X]

Quote: bober1982

Ukraine is simply countless.

Then put them out of action, first close to Poland.
Further - in the text.

The Russian military also warned neighboring countries not to provide their airfields and aircraft to Ukraine for operations against the Russian Aerospace Forces, as this would be considered an attack on Russia.

[Kuroneko]

If you remember, then just a couple of months, information about another victory slipped through - the training of khokhloletchikov on takeoff and landing on highways. Although I am also not sure if the roads in Nenka are fairly even, long and without potholes. A couple of friends colorfully painted for me the charms of off-limits trails. The general advice was to grow 10 eyes like a spider, and not blink, so as not to ruin the pendant.

[Xnumx vis]

Omerigansky potz Blinkin played - "I'm not me, and the horse is not mine!" ...- Z

[bober1982]

They send Ukrainian Su-27s to be slaughtered, this is something, this is an old car - ours beat them like partridges, these are real convulsions in Banderlogs.

[Ru_Na]

We also suffer losses, the Ukrainian air defense is not suppressed and snaps, and if the SU-30 can still be produced, then the loss of the SU-25 is irreparable!

[bober1982]

Quote: Ru_Na

We also suffer losses

On special operations, as on special operations.

[Runoway]

Today minus one more our Kharkov again MANPADS two missiles
Someone explain why they fly no higher than 6000m

[Ru_Na]

Because not all targets can be covered from a height, for some you have to descend and put yourself at risk of being shot down by air defense, the same MANPADS, heat traps do not always help, so we are losing combat vehicles! (

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Runoway

Today, minus one our Kharkov again MANPADS two missiles

And judging by the video from the roof of a residential nine-story building.

[Prjanik]

Is the plane so low over the city at night? More like a rocket or a drone

[Force]

In one of the Telega channels posted a photo of a parachute, Kharkov region

[Prjanik]

So far, he doesn’t say anything, let something show the wreckage or a video that the plane was flying

[Vadim237]

MANPADS didn’t work there - judging by the video, Buki M1 worked

[pytar]

In the morning, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken confirmed that the SASC is working with Warsaw on the transfer of Polish fighters to Ukraine. An hour ago, it was reported that the countries agreed and Poland to donate 28 MiG-29 fighter jets in exchange for F-16s that the Poles will receive from the United States.

[sergo1914]

Quote: pytar

In the morning, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken confirmed that the SASC is working with Warsaw on the transfer of Polish fighters to Ukraine. An hour ago, it was reported that the countries agreed and Poland to donate 28 MiG-29 fighter jets in exchange for F-16s that the Poles will receive from the United States.

The best air defense is tanks on the runway. Never a visionary, but someone thinks that Poland and Bulgaria will go gently with the withdrawal of civilians and other garbage?

[pytar]

I don’t understand, where does Bulgaria come from? The prime minister said that we would not supply weapons or MiGs. And I read about Poland in the news feed vesti.bg

[sergo1914]

Quote: pytar

I don’t understand, where does Bulgaria come from?

What did the UN vote for? Do you approve or condemn the denazification operation? God forbid, I'm not hinting at anything ....

[pytar]

You don't have internet, do you? Exactly 4 approved! A unique case in the history of the UN! By the way, the Ukrainians themselves do not understand who you are "liberating" them from? Okay, the topic is not the same ... we were talking about planes here.

[Denis812]

Don’t give a reference?
Because on the websites of Bloomberg, SNN and the State Department, I see only one and the same
Secretary of State Antony Blinken confirmed Sunday that the US is working with Poland on plans to supply Ukraine with these planes. “We are working with Poland as we speak to see if we can backfill anything that they provide to the Ukrainians,”
But there is nothing about any agreement.

And here it is “We are looking actively now at the question of airplanes that Poland may provide to Ukraine and looking at how we might be able to backfill should Poland decide to supply those planes,” Mr. Blinken said. “I can't speak to a timeline but I can just say we're looking at it very, very actively.”

And besides, there are a lot of words on the topic everywhere, well, ok, but there they also have American avionics, and it is secret, and if the Russians get it, these are friend or foe systems.
We need to change the responders.
And it is necessary to repaint, in the colors of the Ukrainian Air Force, it is necessary to train pilots, and this process is NOT even a month.
And so on.

[pytar]

https://www.vesti.bg/sviat/polsha-dava-na-ukrajna-mig-29-vzima-f-16-ot-sasht-6139123
It is not yet clear whether this message will be confirmed.

[Denis812]

So it's exactly the same as before.
The great helpers of Ukraine said that we would be ready to help her if someone would pay us for this help, for example, the States.
And that's where it all stopped.
Because, unlike the Bulgarians, Romanians and Poland, the United States is well aware that it only sounds beautiful "to transfer 70 fighters to Ukraine."
But in fact, half of them do not fly, Ukraine has no pilots for the second half, and in general, ANY aircraft in NATO has its own or someone else's receivers and other important electronics that must be dismantled, then put Ukrainian there, then tested, then overtaken to border airfields, and then transported on trucks, and after 20 minutes after crossing the border, pull the flaming debris from the road so as not to interfere with the humanitarian aid.

Something like this ...

[pytar]

I think it will clear up in the next few days.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: pytar

It is not yet clear whether this message will be confirmed.

March 6, 2022, 19:15

Soviet-made MiG-29 aircraft in service with the Polish Air Force will not be sent to Ukraine, Deutsche Welle reports.

"Poland will not send its fighter jets to Ukraine and will not give permission for the use of its airfields," the Polish Prime Minister's office said on Sunday, February 6, on its official Twitter, responding to a tweet from the Belarusian opposition publication NEXTA.

[Denis812]

So that's great!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Denis812

We are actively looking now at the question of airplanes that Poland may provide to Ukraine and looking at how we might be able to backfill should Poland decide to supply those planes

I understand it as

Let Poland float the remnants of Soviet technology to Ukraine in the form of humanitarian aid.
In return, we will give her our modern aircraft. But for money.

[Denis812]

exactly.
And climb on the Christmas tree and don't scratch your ass.
Well done Poles, in general :)

It seems like they are ready to hand over the old planes, but at first they were waiting for NATO.
Now we have to wait for the modification. Then something else.
In the meantime, "we're doing everything we can"
Handsome... :)

[Ingvar 72]

Maybe it is worth declaring the intention to transfer the S-400 to Iran?

[sergo1914]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Maybe it is worth declaring the intention to transfer the S-400 to Iran?

Melko, Hobotov. There are Yarsy and Poplars ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Maybe it is worth declaring the intention to transfer the S-400 to Iran?

They will gladly buy for money.

[rocket757]

The Ministry of Defense announced the practical destruction of all combat-ready aviation of Ukraine

. Okay, with aviation "practically" finished ... and air defense ???
After all, there are MANPADS, and this is also a threat to low-flying aircraft. Not everything and not always manages to get from great heights, alas, it is also costly if you work pointwise.
In general, if you show humanism, it's ... okay, it's still impossible to do otherwise. It's decided.

[Troll]

Quote: iouris

No matter how tomorrow arrives. For example, from Romania or, for example, from Poland...

Who will give them? It's too lazy to even discuss.

The only one who can fly in is the special group for the evacuation of Zelensky, since they will fly in special vehicles. That is, low, low, and on inconspicuous letaks, of course.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Troll

The only one who can fly in is the special group for the evacuation of Zelensky

By evacuation or liquidation? On the Maidan, we have already gained experience in creating sacred victims - we can continue and write off the "Russian special services."
It is possible to evacuate him so that he becomes "a symbol and flag of the struggle of the Ukrainian people for independence" from abroad. And what about the Zelensky symbol? Finished pianist...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The air defense of Ukraine has been destroyed, the fighters have been destroyed, but our Aerospace Forces continue to lose aircraft. Why? Why do Su-34s use free-falling bombs, which forces them to enter the zone of destruction of enemy MANPADS and air defense systems? Why don't we use high-precision Kh-25 and Kh-29 missiles? Are these missiles more valuable than the fighters themselves and the lives of our pilots?

[Denis812]

1. Who reported to you that all air defense and all fighters of Ukraine were destroyed? Personally, I did not hear this from Konashenkov.
2. Su-34s use such weapons because they CAN. Yes, it would be cool if they shot the enemy exclusively from the horizon, but Alas, when the enemy is between residential buildings in cities, this will not work. Otherwise, you will slam a rocket into a nine-story building and what will happen then? :)
3. Probably apply.
4. No.

As a result, it seems to me that our MO, as usual, hides videos that could be shown for various reasons. Yes, maybe secrecy, yes, maybe it will reveal some functions of equipment and weapons, but such high-quality videos could very quickly affect the morale of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the population of Ukraine.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

2. Su-34s use such weapons because they CAN. Yes, it would be cool if they shot the enemy exclusively from the horizon, but Alas, when the enemy is between residential buildings in cities, this will not work. Otherwise, you will slam a rocket into a nine-story building and what will happen then? :)

And why, then, in your opinion, laser and television-guided missiles?

And where is your logic? We do not use high-precision weapons because the enemy is in the city among the houses, but we use free-falling FABs ?!

[Vadim237]

Because the command of the operation is incompetent intelligence is poorly provided for the rear is not protected equipment is abandoned without the possibility of its evacuation the columns have no fire cover in any video I have not seen a single Shilka as well as hinged anti-cumulative screens on the same armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles again all these 2000 military horseradish objects of Ukraine should have been hit on the morning of the 24th, but not on the 11th day of hostilities, all television broadcasting and communications should have been cut down, but communications began to be cut down only the other day, essentially enabling the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions to provide control and intelligence. And the operation, whatever one may say, began to slip the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass and did not surround Kyiv, the same with Moreupol they will be tinkering for a single week - now powerful additional forces are needed at least in the southern direction to provide rears and slam the boiler and also deal with the Kharkov direction of losses that there has been a lot of pain in recent days.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Who reported to you that all air defense and all fighters of Ukraine have been destroyed? Personally, I did not hear this from Konashenkov.

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[Denis812]

Did you deliberately ignore the word "PRACTICALLY"?
That's why I told you that Konashenkov never said that ALL air defense and air force of Ukraine was destroyed.
So why are you so careless? :))))

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

"Practically all combat-ready aviation of the Kiev regime has been destroyed" - that's what Konashenkov said!!!

Earlier, he spoke about the complete gaining of air superiority and the suppression of Ukrainian air defense, but we continue to suffer losses and tangible ones.

The word "practically" does not negate "all destroyed."

And what you saw here is funny, I don’t understand at all.

[Denis812]

"Practically all" is NOT the same as EVERYTHING.
Your interpretation of the words of the RF Ministry of Defense is exclusively your interpretation.

[Stepan S]

our MO, as usual, hides, for various reasons, videos that could be shown. Yes, maybe secrecy, yes

How much they showed about Syria, but here everything is so secret. Probably the reason is different.
He, Azerbaijan, showed how to win the information war, motivated and demotivated everyone with only UAVs and video pictures.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

The air defense of Ukraine has been destroyed, the fighters have been destroyed, but our Aerospace Forces continue to lose aircraft. Why? Why do Su-34s use free-falling bombs, which forces them to enter the zone of destruction of enemy MANPADS and air defense systems? Why don't we use high-precision Kh-25 and Kh-29 missiles? Are these missiles more valuable than the fighters themselves and the lives of our pilots?

The same Kh-31PM supersonic missile with a range of 280 km is used.

. The Russian Ministry of Defense demonstrated the combat use of the Sukhoi Su-34 front-line bomber of the Aerospace Forces during a special military operation against a Ukrainian air defense facility.

The video was published by the Zvezda TV channel on Sunday, March 6, 2022.

“The crews of Su-34 aircraft attacked the military infrastructure of Ukrainian nationalists with high-precision aircraft,” reads the explanation to the published video.

.The video shows the launch of a modernized Kh-31PM anti-radar missile developed by Tactical Missiles Corporation.

The Kh-31PM supersonic missile is designed to destroy radar controls of enemy air defense systems, including radar stations of medium and long-range anti-aircraft missile systems. The maximum range of this missile is 280 kilometers.

https://anna-news.info/boevoe-primenenie-su-34-v-hode-spetsialnoj-voennoj-operatsii/

[brace]

Give it to God. We need drones, especially in cities. You need a lot, soon you will have to smoke in caches.

[vindigo]

I hope it will not be like about Syria. Several times they announced victory.

[Denis812]

When did they announce victory in Syria?
In Syria, they announced the achievement of one or another goal of the operation.
No one has ever said that the RF Armed Forces have COMPLETELY won in Syria.
If you so want to hear the Ministry of Defense, then the flag is in your gull, but you don’t lie further.
No one has ever talked about any final victory in Syria.

Or can you bring a video with Putin where he talked about the final victory?

[Bayun]

Is it really impossible to put an anti-missile "robot gun" to protect the rear hemisphere of the aircraft? Or anti-missiles ... The simplest solution is to one of the suspensions ... By the way, in aerial combat it will be possible to "surprise" the adversary.

[Denis812]

yes ... you fly that way. And suddenly the anti-missile ROBOT GUN starts working from the rear hemisphere.
Have you seen what happens to the Su-25 or A10 when the gun is working?
"VVU like a cannon of a tank, the roar of shots, chatter,
I'm like a mouse in a tin can, hit with a HAMMER!!!"

Do you propose to hang this on the robot in the rear upper and lower hemisphere? :)
Yes, you are an innovator, my friend.

[Bayun]

Yes, I am an amateur. But ... the rear hemisphere can somehow be covered, in the presence of hypersonic technologies and other "magic" ...

For example, why shoot traps "where God sends"? It's easier for them to add a little "mind" so that they fly where they SHOULD. If this is extremely difficult to implement - do not charge, I repeat - you are dealing with an amateur;)

[Incvizitor]

In the meantime, French companies returned to the Russian market, at first they pretended to be dumped, and when everyone dumped them, they returned, so the smart-ass market was cleaned up for themselves.

[Kuroneko]

Quote: ettore

Sorry, but from my sofa filled with cats (by the way, what did Russian cats do wrong before the West and Ukraine, what sanctions were imposed on them?

Animal racism has manifested itself in the West.

But... but... we also have a Russian Blue! What an oppression of the rights of LGBT breeds! Where is your tolerance, Herods! =3

[monah]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Obviously, the pilots will be Poles.

I do not think that the Poles on the old Soviet MiG-29s will risk their skins against the Su-30/34/35 and possibly the MiG-31 and Su-57.

Especially after Ukraine lost, if not all, then a significant part of its aviation in 10 days.

It is strange how the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost all aviation, but in the Nikolaev region the APU is advancing with the support of non-existent aircraft? Or have the Poles already appeared there?

[Troll]

In Nikolaev, ours (the Russian army) were hit to the fullest and the equipment captured this fact with a bunch of videos ...

There, the tank battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine counterattacked against the defender. Tomorrow this battalion will not be here.

[poquello]

Quote: monah

It is strange how the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost all aviation, but in the Nikolaev region the APU is advancing with the support of non-existent aircraft?

it lost it there

[Denis812]

Please tell me where the RF Ministry of Defense said that ALL Ukrainian Air Force aircraft do not fly.

[Incvizitor]

The social network TikTok will suspend the distribution of new content and live broadcasts in Russia. This is stated in the statement of the site, published on March 6 on Twitter.

“In light of Russia’s new ‘fake news’ law, we have no choice but to suspend live broadcasts and new content for our video service while we study the implications of this law. Our messaging service will not be affected,” the message said.

Urrraa this dump is covered!

[Kuroneko]

I'll probably drink to that. Facebook is also blocked, and great, one less rubbish.

[Dkuznecov]

Konashenkov repeats. I don't yell.
The Ministry of Defense has already spoken about this a couple of times.
In the dust and shattered in half all aviation under the root.

[Denis812]

He NEVER talked about it.
He said what he said, but what you wanted to hear - well, then you decide.

[Dkuznecov]

In the morning, while I have breakfast, I always watch TV IZ.ru (Izvestiya.ru)
Euronews out of the corner of my eye. But they also go around in circles, mumbling the same thing.
Unsubscribed from telegram channels. Some unverified stuffing.
I have no benefit to slander, to anything.
Konashenkov, starting from the 26th, repeated several times,
that all aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is completely disabled.

I specifically went to the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, there is
everything (including ordering pizza with delivery, a joke, of course),
but there is no data on losses,
nor about the results of the operation and its statuses.
Catch on the word, I agree, I will not succeed.

[Kuroneko]

Armies of all countries of the world from shaggy antiquity and still always - always! - try to show themselves in the most favorable light. This is completely normal and there is nothing to discuss here. Why this is so - I could answer, but the answer would pull on a whole article, and it still doesn't matter.
Now the main thing is to turn on your critical thinking, and more often. It is easier for us, we lived in the USSR and studied according to Soviet programs that taught us to think. Instead of putting a tick in one of the 4 answers.
Think so.
If anything, I can give you a hint: the Defense Ministry of Ukryshka has managed to declare five times already that the "aggressor" has actually been defeated and is about to run with its tail between its legs.

[Vadim237]

Tomorrow they will again announce the downed aircraft and drones of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[MrFYGY]

Fortunately, now they were smart enough not to publish data on the dead and wounded.
As for information work, it is necessary to expel all those who work, the information from the republics is better, better and more visual.

[vs45]

Practically not practically, children's stories, we lose planes almost every day !!! Why is the Southern grouping near Nikolaev in a deplorable state, why is there no constant overlap from the air?! Why climbed there if they weren’t ready, where are the reinforcements ..... where are the reliable rears ..... Fuck knows what .... there is a stone’s throw to the Crimea .... The local population jumps for joy from every dead Russian soldier, a downed tank .... And you, General, are telling us about the Virtually Destroyed Aviation ..... This is no longer an operation, this is already a War and the southern flank must be urgently saved ..... Where is the naval aviation from the Crimea .... If we don’t want to crap, we need to drive reserves from other districts ...... This is a war ...... this is not a cart ride across the steppes !!! But if they are not ready, it’s not worth poking around to the South .... How could the Ukrainians pull up tank reserves to the South, given that there are steppes all around ?! Where are intelligence, aviation .... they have invisible tanks .... It's time to scalp some of the heads responsible for the operation and the disgrace that is happening with modern weapons !!! And it’s already necessary to close Nikolaev tightly .... otherwise, local Ushlepki hung with Charges for RPGs walk through the fields there on debts ..... yes, with MANPADS on their shoulders ..... What does the Black Sea Fleet do, calmly smokes on the sidelines and launches rockets every other day!!! The warriors staged an adventure, so fight competently, prudently, cunningly ..... to take care of every soldier .... every tank ... every plane ....

[Kuroneko]

And what the hell are you from the mountain with a very recent registration and such experiences? Officer's daughter?
And in war they always get killed. At both sides. And that's an occupational risk. The question is whether it's worth it or not.

And Comrade Stalin answered this question personally for me perfectly: "Our cause is just and we will win."
Dixi.

Work harder, lieutenant of the couch troops of Ukraine. Here, hysterical men, like girls, on emotions with a bunch of dots and exclamation marks are not held in high esteem. Smells like hazel immediately.

[Stepan S]

Where is naval aviation from Crimea ...

Works from the first day, and the marines are there from the first day.

[Kuroneko]

This is a clear provocateur, forget it. Or someone escaped from the fool. A normal person would not be able to write like that.

[Vadim237]

Because to control and track the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine throughout the territory of Ukraine, hundreds of high-altitude drones with all the necessary equipment are needed that can be in the air for days - but alas, the Ministry of Defense, as it turned out, does not have them from the word Orions in general and other ones are not even these units.

[Garris199]

I'm just wondering how long the Russian Federation with its powerful economy will be able to pay for this banquet?

[Kuroneko]

We don't have many zeros on computer accounts, yes. And we don’t print cut paper in trillions.
And what does the West have? Besides zeros and paper?
The USSR was in fact the first virtually self-sufficient state. Now we are much worse off. But even now, in terms of resources - real resources - we are the richest country on the planet.
And if someone wants to start a global mahach - who do you think has a better chance? The one with zeros and paper, or who can feed himself, produce for himself from what is available on his own territory? In a big war, it was always the possession of strategic resources that was decisive, and the economy obligingly gave way to production.
To put it simply - if we do not grunt from the economy so simply and immediately - and we do not grunt - then how will Europe grunt in the new heating season? Despite the fact that we are already getting super profits with might and main after the start of the demonstrative flogging of banderlogs.

[Stepan S]

But air defense is still alive and working, and aviation is suffering losses, and this is very bad. And what to do with it?

[Kuroneko]

And who expected an easy walk? We are fighting with the most powerful fragment of the USSR, besides pumped up by the West. With all the corruption of the Sumerians, thanks to this, they pulled up the army in eight years. Let's say, to the level of ISIS (the mode of the operandi is exactly the same, except that they are yelling not about Allah, but about Bandera, and for now they are embarrassed to cut their heads off live).
The Kremlin did not start a small victorious war. It is about our survival, and of course, it will not be easy for us to defend this last frontier so easily.

[bukhach]

Quote: Kuroneko

And who expected an easy walk? We are fighting with the most powerful fragment of the USSR, besides pumped up by the West. With all the corruption of the Sumerians, thanks to this, they pulled up the army in eight years. Let's say, to the level of ISIS (the mode of the operandi is exactly the same, except that they are yelling not about Allah, but about Bandera, and for now they are embarrassed to cut their heads off live).
The Kremlin did not start a small victorious war. It is about our survival, and of course, it will not be easy for us to defend this last frontier so easily.

Plus, for 8 years, the leadership of Ukraine managed to set up a fairly large proportion of the population anti-Russian, this gives motivation to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I generally keep quiet about the national battalions, so your truth will not be easy.

[riwas]

The Ministry of Defense announced the practical destruction of all combat-ready aviation of Ukraine

The United States reported that the United States is considering the possibility of supplying combat aircraft to Ukraine, but Poland categorically denies that it is afraid of a Russian retaliatory strike on its territory.

[Div Divich]

Deliveries will come, they just need time for it. Poland is lying, don't believe a single word of them.