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Kazakhstan will turn its old T-72 into "Buratino" and "Terminators"

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Kazakhstan will turn its old T-72 into "Buratino" and "Terminators"

During the IX forum of interregional cooperation of Kazakhstan and Russia, the leaders of JSC NC Kazakhstan Engineering and OJSC Scientific and Production Cooperation Uralvagonzavod signed a Memorandum of Cooperation. According to the press service of "Kazakhstan Engineering", according to the document, the parties will jointly participate in the conversion of armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan into modern BMPT Terminator and TOC-1А complexes.




It was previously reported that the Kazakh army purchased three BMPTs and as many heavy flamethrower systems. The servicemen operating the equipment spoke very highly of these combat systems. And therefore, the leadership of the armed forces of the fraternal country went along the most rational path - it was decided to redo obsolete modifications tanks T-72, of which there are about a thousand in Kazakhstan, in other models of military equipment.



It is not excluded that with time there will be an opportunity to jointly sell TOC, which are also known as "Pinocchio" and "Terminator" in the countries of the CSTO, as well as in foreign countries.

Unfortunately, the information message does not say anything about the modernization of the existing armored fleet with the help of Uralvagonzavod. It is possible that the decision was made to conduct an independent improvement of these tanks.

The T-72 modernized in Kazakhstan was first demonstrated at the KADEX-2012 exhibition held in Astana.


This modernization option outwardly differs from the old versions of seventy-twains in that the tank received dynamic protection (DZ) of the new generation. As the experts noted, the containers of this DZ fit very well, and there are practically no naked places in the frontal projection. differs from the modernized T-72BM supplied to the Russian army.

The side projections of this tank have anti-cummer grilles. Compared with the dynamic protection available in the Ukrainian and Russian versions of the T-72, they are less effective, and they are too close to the rubber-fabric screens. It is believed that this will significantly reduce their ability to resist cumulative anti-tank weapons.


Instead of the old and long-obsolete active-passive night sight, a modern sight was installed, capable of operating in a day / night mode with a thermal imaging channel.

The old gunner's sight TPD-K1, as in the Russian T-72М1, is left as a backup.

The tank commander was able to duplicate the actions of the gunner through the installed monitor, which receives information from the main sight. Anti-aircraft gun installation remained unchanged, it is open. The tank installed new modern communications. Possible installation of air conditioning.

An auxiliary power unit with service systems of impressive dimensions is attached to the stern of the tank.

The tank received a track with rubber pads. The engine, apparently, power up to 840 hp, and with the increased mass of the tank mobility characteristics deteriorated.

The gun remained the old type, and therefore there is no possibility to conduct shooting modern ammunition.
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  1. INTER
    INTER 26 September 2012 11: 20 New
    14
    The good news is that they don’t cut but upgrade. Moreover, Kazakhstan is our ally. yes
    1. crazyrom
      crazyrom 27 September 2012 07: 10 New
      -1
      Very right, and we need it. From T-72 it’s not a lot of sense (if against modern merkas and abrashek), but Pinocchio and Terminators are wonderful things, each in its element.
  2. Trailer
    Trailer 26 September 2012 11: 23 New
    23
    Not IT? Zhasta, Kurmetta orys batyrlar! (What can I say? Do, dear!).

    But seriously, once with me they asked Primakov who are the allies of Russia there? He answered unambiguously - the closest ally is Kazakhstan!
    1. Civil
      Civil 26 September 2012 11: 36 New
      -23
      Trailer,

      And so the leadership of the armed forces of the fraternal country


      Wow, Kazakhstan was finally recognized as fraternal. previously called brotherly countries like “brotherly Ukraine” or “brotherly Polish people” there and the full zvizdets is “brotherly Bulgaria” although these “brothers” fought against both world wars. Here Belarus also rightfully bears fraternal status ... like Kazakhstan now. We are waiting for fraternal Kyrgyzstan .. and there you look, and the turn comes to the indigenous peoples of Russia, for example, for Tatars, Bashkirs or Yakuts, etc. ...
      1. andrklimanov
        andrklimanov 26 September 2012 12: 18 New
        +6
        Quote: Civil
        "brotherly Polish people"

        your sarcasm is inappropriate here hi
        because the Poles have done so much GOOD for Russia that it’s hard to overestimate !!! indeed we are brothers (like Cain and Abel) laughing
        1. Civil
          Civil 26 September 2012 12: 47 New
          +1
          andrklimanov,


          joker, with such "brothers" enemies are not needed))
        2. Trailer
          Trailer 26 September 2012 12: 54 New
          +2
          Poles, verily, our lesser brothers!
      2. Civil
        Civil 26 September 2012 19: 50 New
        0
        judging by the minuses, the Tatars and Bashkirs never shine at all to become fraternal ... sad
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 26 September 2012 11: 42 New
      26
      Since the collapse of the USSR, Kazakhtan has never turned its back on Russia, even in the most crisis years, and this is worthy of respect!
      1. ded
        ded 26 September 2012 14: 26 New
        12
        Since the collapse of the USSR, Kazakhtan has never turned its back on Russia, even in the most crisis years, and this is worthy of respect!


        To begin with, Nazarbayev is the only one whom the drunk Yeltsin did not invite to Belovezhskaya Pushcha to ruin the USSR (since he was categorically against it)
      2. gland
        gland 26 September 2012 19: 04 New
        +7
        No, every Russian shakes hands with Nazarbayev, because in difficult times he never turned his back on Russia and was not for sale !!! This is one of the real, our friends !!!
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 26 September 2012 11: 48 New
      +1
      They’ve also remade their own ones,
      Being our ally is not beneficial for the image — if someone becomes our ally — everyone immediately starts yelling about the loss of their own political will. They don’t understand something.
    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 September 2012 12: 27 New
      +7
      http://www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/1207/. Ну надо отдать вам должное , Казахстан не стремится создать велосипед, а вполне разумно привлекает все ресурсы которые могут модернизировать Т-72 .
  3. Senzey
    Senzey 26 September 2012 11: 27 New
    +5
    The gun remained the old type, and therefore there is no possibility to conduct shooting modern ammunition.
    The warehouses are full of old ammunition, for a long time I will shoot with so many equipment.
  4. Sars
    Sars 26 September 2012 12: 10 New
    -8
    ShturmKGB
    Kazakhtan never turned his back on Russia

    [qIn the 91st, Mr. Nazarbayev promised that he and Mr. Kravchuk (without Russia) would launch rockets into space.
    Then, with their national policies, the Kazakhs squeezed out from Kazakhstan two million (or maybe more) Russian-speaking people (there are two states in the world that spell out the titular nation - Kazakhstan and Israel), well, Kazakhstan has always been an ally of Russia!
    1. pavlo007
      pavlo007 26 September 2012 12: 38 New
      -12
      I agree with SarS.
      I constantly have a group of 5-7 Russian-speaking students from Kazakhstan, 99 percent of whom remain in the course of studies after obtaining citizenship in Russia, and Mother Motherland poses any obstacles in this (well, why do we need ethnic Russians with our demography ...).
      It’s funny to even hear about the “brotherly Kazakh people”. Russian in Kazakhstan today has nothing to do at all, Kazakhs catch Russians in the streets and urinate just for the Russian language, that they are already afraid to go out on the streets alone without the need. And this is happening in the northern regions, which in the south is even scary to think. There are no prospects for work for a Russian there; local representatives of the local race directly declare to them that you are our slaves. Of all the cracks, starting with school books, a completely frenzied nationalist propaganda similar to fascist propaganda flows. The only dream of all Russians in Kazakhstan is to first try to shove their children into Mother Russia and give them the opportunity to cling to their historical Motherland, and then try to jerk them before you are slaughtered by a bunch of drunk Kazakhs on the street. The situation is somewhat close to the situation in Chechnya in 1992, only less bright. A similar situation is in Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan.
      Pukin’s position is very fascinating and knowing that, essentially, the Russian genocide is happening right by the side, they kiss the Kazakhs, not even trying to help their own, at least in terms of resettlement, obtaining citizenship, raising them to a new place. Probably our country is flourishing and all populated - wherever you look blooming millionaire collective farms. Truth?

      Again, our government gave its people to be torn to pieces in exchange for a virtual ally who could become an enemy five minutes after a conversation with the US condom.
      1. romb
        romb 26 September 2012 12: 51 New
        +8
        Kazakhs catch Russians in the streets and urinate just for Russian speech, the current is that they are even afraid to take to the streets alone.


        Is it possible in more detail? Where and when was it? Can you personally confirm or otherwise prove such facts?

        It is hard to be a nationalist in the Republic of Kazakhstan, as almost the vast majority of citizens have friends or relatives from among representatives of other nationalities.
        1. datur
          datur 26 September 2012 17: 57 New
          +3
          romb, apparently uncle from the 90s did not crawl out !!!! yes
      2. kush62
        kush62 26 September 2012 13: 03 New
        +8
        In connection with the prohibition of another word, I will say Mr. Pavlo just a starball.
      3. Focker
        Focker 26 September 2012 13: 33 New
        +7
        Quote: pavlo007
        Russian in Kazakhstan today has nothing to do at all, Kazakhs are catching Russians in the streets and urinating just for the Russian language, that they are already afraid to go out on the streets alone without the need

        Oh ... get it!)))
      4. afire
        afire 26 September 2012 14: 26 New
        +9
        YAP!
        A lot of Russian companies work in Kazakhstan and a lot of Russian companies and NO ONE IS AFRAID OF ANYONE AND DOESN'T CUT. and everything is calm fellow drinks
        1. elenasvetlova
          elenasvetlova 26 September 2012 15: 08 New
          +9
          This is so, I often go to Kazakhstan, and I didn’t notice such chaos
      5. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 26 September 2012 15: 27 New
        14
        It’s a pity that you can’t blame yourself here, you don’t know what you’re writing, I’m Russian, and I lived in Kazakhstan for 36 years from birth, all that you write about is bullshit, if it’s an honor even the fact that the chairman of our National Russian bank. And not one year. There are much fewer conflicts on national grounds than in Russia. I am offended when you write about us like that. Because we all consider Russia their only ally, both Russians and Kazakhs and the rest of the 100 nationalities living here.
        1. tm70-71
          tm70-71 26 September 2012 15: 57 New
          0
          Of course, I apologize, but this gentleman is right that 3 million fewer Russians became in 20 years, where were they ????
          1. viktorrymar
            viktorrymar 27 September 2012 07: 05 New
            +3
            Well, they left, people were looking for a better life, but how many Russians left Russia during this time?
        2. Oboz
          Oboz 27 September 2012 01: 10 New
          +3
          Do not pay attention to THIS miracle in feathers. In Kazakhstan - I'm at home!))) A year ago, I almost got it in the face (the first time was). )))) When it turned out that I was not American (I was considering everything too actively), the guys apologized!)))
      6. The comment was deleted.
      7. Oboz
        Oboz 27 September 2012 01: 05 New
        -1
        pavlo007 mu-ak and troll. Just no words. Not obscene. Type teacher. In-nah.
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    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 26 September 2012 12: 40 New
      +5
      “Not turning away” does not mean that Kazakhstan did what Russia would say, it is an independent state with its own views. And as for the eviction of Russians, there was a period of time when nationalism flourished, and in all post-Soviet republics, including Russia ...
      1. pavlo007
        pavlo007 26 September 2012 12: 49 New
        -13
        Lies. Right now in Kazakhstan, the fascist mono-ethnic state is most actively made. What are only their school books.
        And nationalism right now at the climax - the Kazakhs, especially the young, were clearly explained that she was a race of masters, and the Russians were their slaves. Nothing shines except a loader or a Russian cleaner in Kazakhstan in any situation. It is a fact.

        You see, you form your opinion by watching TV, and every day I communicate with live people whose families stayed there. Do you feel the difference?
        1. romb
          romb 26 September 2012 12: 52 New
          +7
          Delirium and only! lol
        2. kush62
          kush62 26 September 2012 13: 05 New
          +5
          And every day I talk with relatives, of whom there are a hundred in Kazakhstan. Well, your classmates will cry, maybe in connection with pity and what benefits they will be.
        3. xorgi
          xorgi 26 September 2012 13: 20 New
          +4
          Dear pavlo007, you will first go to Kazakhstan, and then speak! A similar pattern was observed in the 90s. Now the situation is completely different. Yes, there is an intensified planting of the Kazakh language. But otherwise, people live quite calmly. Existing problems have nothing to do with dividing into nations. I regularly visit Kazakhstan: Kustanay, Pavlodar, nearby small towns. It’s calm, although according to the stories of local acquaintances there is crime and youth gangs. But I, walking in the evening, ANYWHERE did not see it. Therefore, your statement is unfounded. Russians work in different fields, there are businessmen, workers, and managers. I was not in the villages, therefore I will not speak. The Russians left there back in the 90s. I agree that there are not many Kazakhs among working people. But this is due to the national mentality. In Russia, too, you can find a Jewish steelworker or a Georgian milling machine operator.
          1. pavlo007
            pavlo007 26 September 2012 14: 24 New
            -8
            xorgi I agree that there are not many Kazakhs among the working people. But this is due to the national mentality. In Russia, too, you can find a Jewish steelworker or a Georgian milling machine operator. ,

            Well, you yourself say that the Kazakhs consider themselves a race of masters and build a state based on the principles of apartheid, like Israel.
            For all my “love” for Jews and the ideology of Zionism, I have to admit that I did not see many Kazakhs as violinists of virtuosos or mathematicians.
            Kazakhs in modern Kazakhstan are more likely sheikhs in the UAE, while Russians there, on the right of foreign workers, have no rights and prospects in society.
            Our state again betrayed its citizens. Instead of chopping off the whole north of Kazakhstan along with Baikonur, taking advantage of the fact that 95 percent of Russians lived there and the Cossacks were already starting to raise bugs, our government handed over the Russians to the Kazakh fascists to be torn to pieces and doomed them to flight or a miserable existence as slaves.
            Just goofing ... Fraternal Kazakh people ... We have no brothers except Belarusians.

            PS I understand that Kazakhs are happy with everything, only they forgot who pulled them out of the yurts, laundered, cleaned them, taught them to walk on their hind legs.
            1. xorgi
              xorgi 26 September 2012 14: 31 New
              +5
              pavlo007 and Russians there on the right of foreign workers who do not have any rights and prospects in society.
              Once again I say you are wrong. Take a trip to Kazakhstan.
              1. pavlo007
                pavlo007 26 September 2012 14: 36 New
                -4
                You saw a lot of Russians holding at least minimal positions in the civil service, huh?
                Well, I’m silent about everyday nationalism - even their Kazakhs are immediately urinated on the street if they speak Russian.
                1. romb
                  romb 26 September 2012 14: 44 New
                  +8
                  Tell me, have you even been to Kazakhstan?
                  If yes, then where?

                  And in general, it seems to me that you made a small mistake on the site! You on rambler or tape.
                2. Dani
                  Dani 29 May 2013 21: 11 New
                  0
                  I ONLY IN RUSSIAN ONLY AND TALK AND NOT ONE SOMEONE WAS NOT SAID
              2. tm70-71
                tm70-71 26 September 2012 16: 01 New
                -4
                And somewhere, this gentleman is right
            2. Forget
              Forget 26 September 2012 15: 39 New
              +5
              Pavlo, if not for the Kazakh Khanate, then Ivan the Terrible could not have taken the Siberian Khanate, and perhaps Russia would not have Siberia. And do not forget who was the last to leave the USSR and from the ruble zone.
              Quote: pavlo007
              PS I understand that Kazakhs are happy with everything, only they forgot who pulled them out of the yurts, laundered, cleaned them, taught them to walk on their hind legs.
              Actually, the Kazakhs did not ask you to do this; you yourself came to Kazakhstan. negative
              1. pavlo007
                pavlo007 26 September 2012 18: 50 New
                -8
                Quote: pavlo007
                PS I understand that Kazakhs are happy with everything, only they forgot who pulled them out of the yurts, laundered, cleaned them, taught them to walk on their hind legs.
                Actually, the Kazakhs did not ask you to do this; you yourself came to Kazakhstan.
                ,

                I understand that you have claims that the Russians made of you PEOPLE in the usual sense of the word?
                And what does it mean to come, but you did not ask us? We are a Great Nation and we have the Right granted by God to a civilizational mission and the development of wild lands and indigenous peoples for their benefit.
                And a little remark - unlike the United States in America and other countries, we did not even try to claim your right to live, but only developed, eradicated epidemics and engaged in education. For this, you are now mocking the Russians and driving them out of your homes.

                I almost fell under the table when I read that a couple of Kazakh wild tribes had laid Siberia at the feet of Russia. You never had statehood, and essentially you didn’t exist either - the Bolsheviks divorced you, and then created an autonomous republic, and then the Kazakh SSR according to communist idiocy.

                Again we see the treacherous policy of the regime. Instead of collecting what would collect at least something from the country, fraternal Belarus is repelled and spread rot. Games are being played with Ukraine, instead of picking up eastern Ukraine and the Crimea. And they flirt with Kazakhstan with a nationalist regime in which, according to the constitution, all nations except Kazakhs are put in the position of second-class people, and it would be necessary to separate northern Kazakhstan, relying on the Russians living there, when they had not yet been expelled or reduced to the position of slaves.
                Already with eastern Little Russia, Belarus and the northern part of Kazakhstan, a powerful power would have turned out.

                The question is, how many days after Nazarbayev’s departure, which at least somehow holds back the situation, will the Kazakhs cut all the Russians?
                We do not need military equipment to be delivered there, but to destroy this "state". These Russian terminators are also adding fire when the mess begins.
                1. Forget
                  Forget 26 September 2012 19: 00 New
                  +7
                  Quote: pavlo007
                  I almost fell under the table when I read that a couple of Kazakh wild tribes had laid Siberia at the feet of Russia. You never had statehood, and essentially you didn’t exist either - the Bolsheviks divorced you, and then created an autonomous republic, and then the Kazakh SSR according to communist idiocy.

                  Read dear, illiterate man, and why so boiling ???
                  http://www.freeas.org/?nid=7801
                  1. pavlo007
                    pavlo007 27 September 2012 09: 54 New
                    -3
                    Read. What can I say - another nationalistic nonsense, an attempt to re-invent history. In Ukraine, they reached great heights. There, in the textbooks they write that the first person on earth was a Ukrainian :)))))))))))
                    1. Dani
                      Dani 29 May 2013 21: 13 New
                      0
                      KOTAKBAS YOU GOT
                2. Forget
                  Forget 26 September 2012 19: 37 New
                  +3
                  Quote: pavlo007
                  We are a Great Nation and we have the Right granted by God to a civilizational mission and the development of wild lands and indigenous peoples for their benefit.

                  Well, we have to, on our planet there is one country that tames bombs to culture. Maybe you should take an example from them. fellow

                  Quote: pavlo007
                  I understand that you have claims that the Russians made of you PEOPLE in the usual sense of the word?

                  but you obviously don’t look like people winked
                3. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 26 September 2012 19: 48 New
                  +1
                  pavlo007
                  I don’t want to offend anyone here, but compared to Chinese or Mediterranean-European civilization, Russian civilization is still very young.
                  By the way, Kazakhs are the heirs of the Kipchaks (Polovtsy), and in the Russian annals the Golden Horde was also called the Polovtsian, emphasizing the composition of the main population.
                4. Ram chandra
                  Ram chandra April 19 2013 14: 41 New
                  +1
                  Right now, the Holodomor will be remembered. In Kazakhstan, from the 1920s to 1939 (or whatever year it ended there), the indigenous population decreased by 75% . There were cons, and big ones. So be silent. No need to remember bad things.
                5. Dani
                  Dani 29 May 2013 21: 12 New
                  0
                  GIVE YOUR PHONE
            3. ded
              ded 27 September 2012 20: 19 New
              +2
              PS I understand that Kazakhs are happy with everything, only they forgot who pulled them out of the yurts, washed them, cleaned them, taught to walk on its hind legs.


              Probably Charles Darwin?
          2. viktorrymar
            viktorrymar 26 September 2012 15: 37 New
            +8
            And this is nonsense, about the fact that among the Kazakhs there are not many workers - come to Alma-Ata, janitors, bus drivers, workers in garbage trucks, taxi drivers, and Kazakhs work away and on and off, and they are not afraid of any work.
        4. Trailer
          Trailer 26 September 2012 13: 22 New
          +4
          Quote: pavlo007


          pavlo007


          Nonsense you say nonsense!
          1. pavlo007
            pavlo007 26 September 2012 14: 09 New
            -6
            Naturally, you, as a Kazakh, are easily and pleased. I do not argue at all.
            1. Trailer
              Trailer 26 September 2012 14: 17 New
              +4
              I've published a couple of notes here. There, the first and last names are indicated!
        5. Badger
          Badger 26 September 2012 16: 26 New
          +8
          Pavlo breshit and not shy! Either Natsik is a fool or a provocateur or maybe all together?
        6. Beck
          Beck 26 September 2012 17: 59 New
          +9
          I read the comments. I thank the Kazakh people for correctly unsubscribing Pavlo.

          I especially thank the Russian people who shook Pavlo.

          Now I will express my own. Our leaders are struggling to create a new Eurasian Union on the ruins of the USSR. Our economies, banking systems, defense enterprises are doing everything to integrate. We are connected both by neighborly relations and by more than five hundred years of residence in one state - 300 years in the Golden Horde. 175 years in the Russian Empire, 70 years in the USSR. At the moment, Kazakhstan is closer to Russia and there is no one. Do not lean against China.

          And, here are Pavel’s furry ones, whose forehead consists only of the superciliary arches, ears that don’t hear the world, eyes that don’t see the light, moo about something utter. Something to hide was at the beginning of 90 some friction. But it was at the household level and in all CIS countries. I am sure the vast majority of Russian people left for Russia as their historical homeland. But all these people want to live in their homeland. Kazakhs are now coming to Kazakhstan from Mongolia and China, but we do not say that they survive. They also want to live in their homeland. Of course there are those who left for Russia with some kind of resentment, but this is being, and not state policy.

          Such a holiday on the site. A comprehensive article on cooperation between Russia and Kazakhstan. And still there was something wrong done, not humanly, which for all of this banged his hail.
          1. pavlo007
            pavlo007 26 September 2012 19: 02 New
            -5
            Bekveren the vast majority of Russian people left for Russia as their historical homeland. But all these people want to live in their homeland. Kazakhs are now coming to Kazakhstan from Mongolia and China, but we do not say that they survive. They also want to live in their homeland.,

            Yes of course! The Russians simply dreamed of quitting their possessions and fleeing to Russia, where they were not needed by the regime that had betrayed them.
            Kazakhs are really being gathered around the world now and for FREE they are building smart mansions in the northern regions where they move from the Mongolian yurts, and other citizens of this country who are not lucky enough to be Kazakh are huddled nearby. In Russia there is nothing of the kind.
            In this regard, for his Kazakhs, Nazarbayev really created raspberries. This is the essence of the Kazakh state - to build a mono-ethnic society based on the exploitation of other nations. Where have you seen in Russia that all roads in society except garbage collection were closed for a Kazakh citizen?
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 26 September 2012 22: 28 New
              +8
              Yes, pavlo007 is a colleague, to read you, so here we have a real genocide. A sort of Great Kazakh Horde modeled after the Third Reich, where no Aryans are caught and driven into concentration camps. You would pay attention to how many colleagues refute your comments and under what banners they stand. For your information, the guys under the nicknames viktorrymar and Karavan (read his articles on this site) are definitely not Kazakhs.
              In order not to be unfounded, I INVITE YOU to Kazakhstan. See for yourself who sweeps the streets here, but removes garbage. I will introduce you to representatives of different nationalities living here. What language do we speak here.
              Thanks to all the colleagues who supported my country in this discussion.
              1. Oboz
                Oboz 27 September 2012 01: 18 New
                +3
                Kasym! In vain you invite. He will come, taste all the delights of hospitality, and then again he will broadcast nasty things.
              2. pavlo007
                pavlo007 27 September 2012 09: 47 New
                -5
                Why are Russians fleeing from Kazakhstan, where they ride like cheese in oil, huh? Where did a couple of millions of Russian speakers go? Something did not answer. And although one of yours already said that they always dreamed of rushing to Russia, abandoning everything acquired. Yes Yes Yes...

                Well, viktorrymar and Karavan .... Well, what to say, during the war we had policemen who tortured my great-grandfather and Vlasovites. There are traitors in any nation. Maybe these guys are well settled, here are just dozens of Russians who fled from Kazakhstan, whom I know that they describe completely different pictures. Even in your press they wrote that somewhere in the Russian grandmother they were denied service at the post office, because you only spoke Russian, and here you are filling in about the friendship of peoples.
          2. Oboz
            Oboz 27 September 2012 01: 16 New
            -1
            Thank! Everything is correct.
        7. Dani
          Dani 29 May 2013 21: 10 New
          0
          LITTLE WHERE YOU CHARGE I AM AT LEARNING SCHOOL AND HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING
  5. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 26 September 2012 12: 22 New
    +4
    At least in the conditions of Kazakhstan, in the presence of huge open spaces, Pinocchio can turn out to be more than a serious argument in disputes of resolved spacecraft.
    1. Old skeptic
      Old skeptic 26 September 2012 12: 44 New
      +3
      In open spaces, Pinocchio is just a little effective (the range is small and does not shine with a variety of ammunition, and as a result, it is much inferior to the MLRS. Yesterday there was an article on this subject).
      1. kush62
        kush62 26 September 2012 13: 06 New
        +5
        Yes, something that is not in the trash (scrap) and that is already a plus.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 26 September 2012 13: 39 New
        +2
        In open spaces, the technique is much more effective.
  6. Fost325
    Fost325 26 September 2012 15: 15 New
    +3
    The fact suggests that people are friends with their heads (with their own), and then - "as you call a yacht, it will sail" .......
  7. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 26 September 2012 15: 28 New
    +1
    we need to take an example from Kazakhstan in these things — not to cut tanks, but simply to modernize in a similar way ...
    1. Artem6688
      Artem6688 26 September 2012 18: 08 New
      0
      Nobody cuts tanks with the exception of the hopelessly outdated T-55, T-62 and T-64.
      T-72 are being upgraded to T-72BA and T-72BM (in small quantities, but still). The T-80U and T-80BV are not being upgraded, but the T-80U still meets all the requirements.
  8. Nursultan
    Nursultan 26 September 2012 17: 59 New
    +3
    Good news.
    KZ has its own RTV modernization company
  9. datur
    datur 26 September 2012 18: 02 New
    +4
    do it right, why break if you can redo it and use it !!!! this is homely !!!! here in SYRIA ASSADA these devices would be very useful !!!!!
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 September 2012 01: 20 New
      +1
      Yes, as they say please. But today I watched a report from Saratov where it seems where the nurses leave the hospitals receiving 6 thousand per month, you have to choose either money for nurses in Saratov and others like it or for Assad tanks.
      The budget has its limits.
  10. PRAVDARUB
    PRAVDARUB 26 September 2012 19: 10 New
    +1
    In general, the BMPT is a powerful offensive vehicle ... It strikes ground and air targets, shoots low-flying planes. Perhaps the most powerful vehicle, the most effective combat platform, is controlled remotely via a closed communication channel ... But the fact that Pinocchio was 6km long. 40-50 boxes.
  11. Rinat.kz
    Rinat.kz 4 November 2012 18: 18 New
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    Turning the t-72 into a bmp is a good idea, but in a pinocchio it's a waste of money.