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Russian Aerospace Forces shot down four Ukrainian Su-27 fighters near Zhytomyr

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The Russian Aerospace Forces conducted an air battle in the Zhytomyr region, shooting down four Ukrainian fighters at once. This was reported in the Ministry of Defense.

As explained in the military department, Russian fighters shot down four Su-27s of the Ukrainian Air Force in the air, an air battle took place in the Zhytomyr region, no details are given. The anti-aircraft systems of the Russian troops also worked perfectly, landing a Ukrainian Su-25 attack aircraft, one helicopter and one Bayraktar TB2 strike drone. The military did not disclose where it happened and other details.

In an air battle in the Zhytomyr region, four Su-27 aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were shot down and one Su-25 was shot down by air defense systems in the Nizhyn region. Also, the air defense forces destroyed the Mi-8 helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force and the Bayraktar TB2 unmanned aerial vehicle.

- declared Konashenkov.

Zhytomyr itself is still under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, today the Russian Armed Forces attacked the warehouses of the Ukrainian army, located just under this city weapons long range. According to reports, Javelin and NLAW anti-tank missile systems were stored in the destroyed warehouse.

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine cites its own data, judging by them, the Russian army has already lost almost all of its equipment and will soon begin to retreat. According to Ukrainian data, during all the days of the operation, the Russian Armed Forces lost: 39 aircraft, 40 helicopters, 269 tanks, 945 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 105 guns, 19 air defense systems, 50 MLRS, 2 ships and 3 UAVs.

Unfortunately, we cannot yet tell about all our successes, so as not to disrupt our plans. But believe me, in due time everything will be known

- said the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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  1. gansales
    gansales 5 March 2022 21: 09
    +14
    Where did they come from?
    Although there was infa that there a grouping of the All-Union Bandera refused to obey Kiev .. Like we are on our own
    1. Sailor
      Sailor 5 March 2022 21: 13
      +24
      I hope not from the airfields of the "partners", otherwise VV promised to punish the members.
      1. Russian
        Russian 5 March 2022 21: 20
        +43
        Yes, very strange. It seems that more than once they said that the Air Force and airfields of Ukraine were destroyed.
        Whoever has not seen it, I strongly advise you to watch Kedmi's speech, he said it very competently, even Solovyov stood silently
        1. Clear
          Clear 5 March 2022 21: 37
          +27
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          Yes, very strange. It seems that more than once they said that the Air Force and airfields of Ukraine were destroyed.
          Whoever has not seen it, I strongly advise you to watch Kedmi's speech, he said it very competently, even Solovyov stood silently

          Nieto officially from the Russian Ministry of Defense did not say that all airfields in Ukraine were destroyed ... but, he said how many were damaged.
          1. Russian
            Russian 5 March 2022 22: 03
            +5
            Yes, I probably made a mistake, in western Ukraine I still think there is definitely something left. But in any case, it is strange that they allowed to rise into the air
            1. Sanguinius
              Sanguinius 5 March 2022 22: 07
              -71
              I'll tell you even more ... they continue to plant our birds, today in Chernigov our Su-30SM was shot down, the pilots ejected, but one was shot by the Ukrainians, and the second was taken prisoner.
              1. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 5 March 2022 22: 19
                +35
                Quote: Sanguinius
                I'll tell you even more.

                My tongue is my enemy, yeah. wink And then the whining is heard on the topic "why me, I'm nothing ..." Or has responsibility not yet come by age? Oh, those stupid, stupid kids...request
              2. Russian
                Russian 5 March 2022 22: 20
                -49
                Losses there I feel will be hoo + th! If they also go to the western part
                1. Sanguinius
                  Sanguinius 5 March 2022 22: 24
                  +1
                  And no one said that it would be an easy ride for us, it was clear from the very beginning, although not everyone understands this, or does not want to understand.
                2. flicker
                  flicker 5 March 2022 23: 23
                  +9
                  Losses there I feel will be hoo + th! If they also go to the western part
                  What place do you feel like?
                  1. Russian
                    Russian 6 March 2022 00: 12
                    -21
                    If only according to official statistics there are already more than 500 people there, and we are not part of the city, count for yourself
                    1. flicker
                      flicker 6 March 2022 01: 13
                      +16
                      "75% of the military potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been destroyed."

                      The most combat-ready units were in the east of Ukraine. The western regions, seeing what is happening with the eastern ones, will not even resist. Since, in case of resistance, they will be ironed to the fullest.
                      1. GREG68
                        GREG68 6 March 2022 06: 46
                        +4
                        Good paper. The main thing is not to install
              3. Slap
                Slap 5 March 2022 22: 23
                -47
                I saw a video where the Mi-35 was shot down and another fighter. They say Su-34. The fuselage is similar to the Su-27 line.
                1. Lykases1
                  Lykases1 6 March 2022 07: 32
                  +6
                  Mi 35 and Su 34 fighters today?
                  1. Slap
                    Slap 6 March 2022 07: 47
                    -23
                    Unparalleled in the world
                2. Rusticolus
                  Rusticolus 6 March 2022 09: 41
                  +2
                  I saw a video where the Mi-35 was shot down and another fighter. They say Su-34
                  laughing
                  Another stupid bastard.
                  No, of course, I admit that a helicopter can shoot down a fighter, purely by chance. True, the 34th is a bomber. (Khokhlobot does not know this) But what would only one. And by the way, where did the Ukrainians get the Mi35e from? Did they do it themselves? laughing
                  I'm laughing out loud at the stupidity of these idiots who post fakes.
                  1. Slap
                    Slap 6 March 2022 10: 34
                    -10
                    You apparently have Ukrainians so deep in your head that they seem to you everywhere. Do they pay you rent for the places they occupy in your head?
                    Or will you deny the fact that the Mi-24/35 was shot down from the MANPADS and that the Su-30SM crashed and that the Su-34 fell, scattering its FABs everywhere? Or maybe 3 more pilots were not captured. Ah yes, I forgot they are not there, and I am a khokhlobot.
                    1. kytx
                      kytx 7 March 2022 11: 19
                      +1
                      The network analyzed in detail these photos with fab500 bombs. Fake, and stupid, even for Ukraine.
                      1. Slap
                        Slap 7 March 2022 20: 49
                        0
                        I saw pictures and videos about the FAB 500. From the video it seemed that the Su-34 was shot down and when it crashed the bombs scattered and did not explode. What is fake?
                      2. kytx
                        kytx 7 March 2022 21: 00
                        +1
                        The fact is that a cast iron bomb, after arriving in concrete, must have external damage.
                        And in general, driving su34 with fabs is a bad idea
                      3. Slap
                        Slap 7 March 2022 22: 33
                        0
                        Unfortunately, there are several videos from your media, Zvezda or whatever, showing the Su-24 and Su-34 with Fabvmi. It seems to me that there is too much hope for SVP-24 and analogues. I talked with military experts from some countries and many have resentment about fabs on the Su-34. It's fighting with one arm behind your back.
                      4. kytx
                        kytx 8 March 2022 00: 45
                        0
                        Anything can be shown on the star, even the death star
                  2. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 6 March 2022 10: 39
                    -5
                    Quote: Rusticolus
                    I'm laughing out loud at the stupidity of these idiots who post fakes.

                    You expose your stupidity less.
              4. Cananecat
                Cananecat 5 March 2022 22: 38
                +30
                Quote: Sanguinius
                I'll tell you even more ...

                You’re lying, in the above pictures the uniform is not of our pilots, but of the times of the Union ... when you spread fakes, you can’t even make them reliably laughing
                1. Sanguinius
                  Sanguinius 5 March 2022 22: 53
                  -11
                  In your judgments about my belonging to Ukraine, you were mistaken.
                  Yeah, yeah, "the form is not ours", but what is this? It seems to me that you turn on a fool who is afraid to admit the unfortunate fact that today we lost a good pilot, and his colleague was captured by Ukrainians, and you kick everything into fakes, and you can’t refute the words, except your verbiage. Although you are not aware that the tenth day of the operation is underway, and the Ministry of Defense is reporting to us about gaining air supremacy, and in parallel, publishes data on the LOSSES of the Ukrainian Air Force ... a paradox!
                  1. Repellent
                    Repellent 5 March 2022 23: 07
                    +25
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    the Ministry of Defense reports to us about gaining air supremacy, and in parallel, publishes data on the LOSSES of the Ukrainian Air Force ... a paradox!

                    No paradox. Dominance in the air does not negate the fact that the enemy has some kind of aircraft.
                    1. Sanguinius
                      Sanguinius 5 March 2022 23: 17
                      -34
                      Let me disagree with you ... air supremacy is achieved by achieving a qualitative and quantitative advantage in the air and by destroying enemy fighter aircraft and air defense, since the Ukrainian Air Force is still functioning, it turns out, there is not yet this very superiority.
                      1. Repellent
                        Repellent 5 March 2022 23: 19
                        +6
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        Let me disagree with you ...

                        Ugh ... request
                      2. Alemax
                        Alemax 6 March 2022 00: 56
                        +13
                        Yes. It is hard to communicate with our denazified brothers. For 30 years of Nazi propaganda, their brains have been turned inside out a little ..
                        ))))
                        I, below, also offer to accept fake-throwing guano for evidence.
                      3. Jager
                        Jager 6 March 2022 01: 16
                        +7
                        In 45, ours and our allies reigned supreme in the air. What did thousands of bombers in the rear and hundreds of attack aircraft on the front line, and there were losses from enemy aircraft.
                      4. GRANATE-19
                        GRANATE-19 6 March 2022 06: 09
                        -4
                        If there is no enemy in the air, then there is no one to surpass. And your free interpretation is only your opinion. Or did you graduate from the General Staff Academy and have an hourly report from the fronts!? Then I'm sorry...
                      5. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 6 March 2022 08: 42
                        +3
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        air supremacy is achieved by achieving a qualitative and quantitative advantage in the air and by destroying enemy fighter aircraft and air defense

                        You are wrong. In 1941, the Germans dominated the air, which did not prevent them from suffering losses, and our aircraft from striking at Berlin. You will not claim that they destroyed all Soviet aircraft?
                  2. Zefr
                    Zefr 6 March 2022 01: 25
                    +11
                    "Supremacy in the air" means that aviation fulfills all the goals set. In this case, battles can go on, just as in the case of ground operations, "complete tactical superiority" does not mean the absence of battles
              5. Alemax
                Alemax 5 March 2022 23: 46
                +10
                today in Chernigov our Su-30SM was shot down

                Yes Yes Yes! How do I remember.
                "..only in the last 30 hours, a brave Ukrainian pilot shot down with his own hand six Russian fighters .." (quote Brekhunoff from the Armed Forces of Ukraine ..
                How was it about bags that are harder to toss?
                Although, I'm already beginning to doubt this saying. Because to carry such nonsense ... it’s really necessary to have a tongue with a gimlet and not be shy.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 5 March 2022 23: 51
                  0
                  Unfortunately, the loss of the Su 30SM near Chernigov is true.
                  1. Alemax
                    Alemax 5 March 2022 23: 53
                    0
                    Can I link to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation?
                    1. Cosm22
                      Cosm22 6 March 2022 00: 25
                      -1
                      It would be possible if the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation would at least say a word about this case.
                      But you can give another link. On the video with documentary footage of the interrogation of Major Krasnoyartsev. By the way, in the above group photo, he is second from the right. Is it really hard to even go to YouTube?
                      There is also a second video of his interrogation.
                      1. Sanguinius
                        Sanguinius 6 March 2022 00: 54
                        +2
                        It's all useless, the howl will start again in the spirit of "it's all fake, I don't believe it, MO didn't say anything, which means it didn't happen"
                        Although it was possible to think logically, at least about WHAT MO in the person of Konashenkov, summing up the results of the first day of the operation, what did he say? “There are no losses,” he said, but in fact, videos of our three turntables shot down were already circulating on the network, there were also reports of our plane being shot down / crashed.
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                      1. Sanguinius
                        Sanguinius 6 March 2022 06: 27
                        -6
                        Excuse me, are you telling me this?
                        If yes, then I think you misunderstood me.
                      2. Vista401
                        Vista401 6 March 2022 10: 44
                        -4
                        No, not to you. And to the one who asks for a link to the MO to confirm the losses.
                      3. Alemax
                        Alemax 6 March 2022 11: 33
                        -1
                        Did I state somewhere that our Armed Forces do not suffer losses?
                        The Ministry of Defense voices them. If not quantitatively, then qualitatively. There are other reliable sources as well. In particular, yesterday, the LDNR military reported the death of the commander of Sparta, Guards Colonel Vladimir Zhoga.
                        I asked them to give me an ADEQUATE source of information, the Ministry of Defense or close to the Ministry of Defense that the Su-30 point was shot down yesterday.
                  2. kventinasd
                    kventinasd 6 March 2022 01: 40
                    -2
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    Unfortunately, the loss of the Su 30SM near Chernigov is true.

                    Su30 was shot down near Nikolaev, and Su34 was shot down near Chernigov. One pilot unfortunately died, three were captured. I won’t post the video here, who needs it, he will find it, even in the You Tube already.
                    1. kytx
                      kytx 8 March 2022 14: 43
                      -1
                      Where did the third and fourth crew members come from in su34? And so very convincing, especially without proofs
                      1. kventinasd
                        kventinasd 8 March 2022 14: 45
                        +1
                        Two pilots with SU30 and one with SU34.
                      2. kytx
                        kytx 8 March 2022 14: 50
                        -1
                        Back to front it's the other way around. In su30 one pilot in 34 two. Well, you have your own atmosphere and mathematics there too
                      3. kventinasd
                        kventinasd 8 March 2022 15: 00
                        0
                        Is your internet broken? There are also two pilots in the Su30

              6. aslan balayev
                aslan balayev 6 March 2022 00: 51
                -2
                Quote: Sanguinius
                I'll tell you even more ... they continue to plant our birds, today in Chernigov our Su-30SM was shot down, the pilots ejected, but one was shot by the Ukrainians, and the second was taken prisoner.

                They write a lot. But there is no need to spread a frank fake here. stop
                1. Sanguinius
                  Sanguinius 6 March 2022 01: 04
                  +2
                  None of you present here has yet proved that this news and the video material that wanders on the same Youtube is a fake. Just one gossip.
                  You don’t think, I’m not trying to somehow denigrate someone, our authorities or the Defense Ministry, or I don’t distribute game about 6 downed planes by Ukrainians. But ignoring obvious facts, hiding behind the word "fake", is stupid.
                  1. Dilettante grandfather
                    Dilettante grandfather 6 March 2022 04: 05
                    -2
                    Where is the evidence that this is true? Cartoons are a good thing, but until there is official confirmation, this information cannot be considered reliable.
                    1. Sanguinius
                      Sanguinius 6 March 2022 04: 48
                      -2
                      In part, you are right, this is unofficial data, and you can say whatever you want. BUT of course you will not be told anything about them separately. And finally, about cartoons, this is the whole point, you will prove that THIS event is a CARTOON.
                      I am ready to admit that this event is a fake, only after relevant evidence. In the meantime, you are guided only by what your faith tells you.
                      1. Dilettante grandfather
                        Dilettante grandfather 6 March 2022 05: 30
                        -7
                        For me, any videos on the Internet are cartoons. In fact, any film is an animated film. And to prove something is the destiny of those who post videos / posts / news. There are official data, and there is unverified information. There is no third, you understand?
                      2. Sanguinius
                        Sanguinius 6 March 2022 05: 33
                        -3
                        There is a third, these are just those "omissions" about losses from official sources, although I understand why this is being done.
                        Well, how do you comment on the words of the user of this site, below? Under Fitter65's nickname, with his albeit harsh and unfair words addressed to me, he confirmed one thing, then that I was right.
                      3. Dilettante grandfather
                        Dilettante grandfather 6 March 2022 05: 39
                        +1
                        It's easy to comment. The comrade wrote, but also did not provide any evidence, alas. I fully admit that he wrote the truth, but, again, until it is proven, these are just words. Do you understand? The bottom line is the evidence. I'm not going to accuse anyone of something, I'm just saying that there is a fact, but there is unconfirmed information that cannot be trusted without looking back.
                      4. Sanguinius
                        Sanguinius 6 March 2022 05: 40
                        +1
                        Well, whatever. I have already realized that it is useless to talk about such topics here, I will not write more like this. For all blindly follow their faith.
                      5. Dilettante grandfather
                        Dilettante grandfather 6 March 2022 07: 04
                        0
                        It's not about faith, it's about evidence.
                      6. Fitter65
                        Fitter65 6 March 2022 06: 33
                        -1
                        Well, what can I say, if you don’t understand Russian, learn Chechen, Chechens for 200 have grown together with Russians, we are one people, and we have one country. which we have defended, are defending and will continue to defend. Only you forgot about the Karelians, Buryats, Evenks, Nanais and more than 150 nationalities and nationalities who quietly and without advertising extinguish racist nationalists in Ukraine.
              7. Fitter65
                Fitter65 6 March 2022 04: 13
                -1
                Quote: Sanguinius
                I'll tell you even more ... they continue to plant our birds, today in Chernigov our Su-30SM was shot down, the pilots ejected, but one was shot by the Ukrainians, and the second was taken prisoner.

                Yes, you are lucky. this second classmate of my daughter. Therefore, you definitely need to wet the creatures, like the last freaks. And we will soak you ochkuyte !!!!!! You will answer unambiguously for Vovka. You are already crawling and afraid to fart, and then it will be worse for you. There was no need to piss off the bear.
                1. Sanguinius
                  Sanguinius 6 March 2022 04: 54
                  +4
                  You are a funny character, you won’t say anything ... you undertake to judge a person without knowing anything about him. I'm tired of repeating like you... I've NEVER BEEN in Ukraine, and just like the rest, I SUPPORT the operation that our country launched against Ukraine. But this does not mean that I will be in a patriotic frenzy like you, joyfully clapping my hands.
                  What to do, apparently THINK, this is not about you, alas.
                  Yes, and YOU personally are unlikely to kill anyone, enough of these slogans, real guys who serve in the RF Armed Forces are now shedding their blood there in Ukraine, and you are such a stupid balabolka!
                  1. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 6 March 2022 05: 47
                    -1
                    Quote: Sanguinius
                    You are a funny character, do not say anything ...

                    Debilushka. I'm not in a patriotic frenzy, this is my point of view. Yes, real guys serve, but thanks to the fact that I served 32 before, they kill such reptiles. And it's you stupid couch balabolka. I really served, and I really hurt my heart that I'm 57, and not 30 like Alexei., To be honest, at first I thought it was Vovka, and this is his older brother. Vovka returned to base. We are watching our own. And about what I could and still can, it's not for you to judge the balabolnaya stupidity.
                    1. Sanguinius
                      Sanguinius 6 March 2022 21: 37
                      0
                      Eiii? Well, I also served, so what? Should I bow before you?
                      Before you write anything and insult and blame someone without any reason, first think with your head, and then sit down to type at the keyboard. Emotions, emotions, but sometimes you have to turn your head on.
                      And yes ... that's about what I judge or not. Apply these words to yourself to begin with, otherwise you will classify me as a Bandera and call me a creature. What is this anyway!?
                2. Fitter65
                  Fitter65 6 March 2022 05: 05
                  +4
                  The worst thing is that these creatures killed one pilot in the air, and the pilot who was captured was Lyosha, Vovka's older brother, they are the weather, they served in the same regiment. They are very similar, I drove them both from the entrance as a child. But the meanest thing is these, Bandera people who, through all Lyoshkin’s connections, sent text messages like we’ll kill everyone, she came to my nephew, it turns out he was talking. Thought to intimidate? Yep now...
                  1. Sanguinius
                    Sanguinius 6 March 2022 05: 24
                    +5
                    I sincerely sympathize with the families and friends of the deceased pilot, and the families of the captured pilot, and with all my heart I wish him to return to us in Russia, and I really hope that this operation will end as soon as possible.
                    1. flicker
                      flicker 6 March 2022 13: 14
                      +2
                      condolences to family and friends
                      And it must be added that Bandera and Ukronatsiks were destroyed to one and all.
                      How do you support the destruction of all ukronatsiks to one?
                      1. Sanguinius
                        Sanguinius 6 March 2022 21: 33
                        0
                        Well, since I support a special operation against Ukrainians, what do you think? Of course yes. But it won’t work for everyone, some of them will run away or run away to Europe
                  2. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 6 March 2022 05: 57
                    +1
                    Quote: Fitter65
                    The worst thing is that these creatures killed one pilot in the air,

                    That's just the news from 404 was shown ALIVE, BOTH PILOT ALIVE. Nothing more is needed, except for the capitulation of the American colony, the Russian flag over the ancient Russian city of Kiev, and the mention of the word Bandera only in the past tense. what Stalin did not complete, our children will complete
              8. sustav75
                sustav75 6 March 2022 08: 25
                -2
                Uryakals continue to minus people, not even for fakes! The uryakols still have no losses. After all, the bitter truth must also be known. Strange things...
              9. Lettp
                Lettp 6 March 2022 10: 16
                +4
                Guys, who knows, please explain. These videos are in the Chernigov cart, with the SU-34 pilot. Krasnoyarsk? Explain, these are the videos that the Ukrainians upload with the interrogation of our prisoners. Is this behavior normal? is this an unofficial instruction in case of capture? I understand that those who send them to the south are not shown. But to call a unit, a commander - is that normal? phone on a sortie?!?!? Yesterday, I fell into a slump from a major, an officer of the Russian Federation - so I'm still a little out of my mind. I just want to understand.
                1. MMX
                  MMX 6 March 2022 18: 35
                  0
                  Quote: Ltetp
                  Guys, who knows, please explain. These videos are in the Chernigov cart, with the SU-34 pilot. Krasnoyarsk? Explain, these are the videos that the Ukrainians upload with the interrogation of our prisoners. Is this behavior normal? is this an unofficial instruction in case of capture?


                  Instruct.
                  1. Lettp
                    Lettp 6 March 2022 18: 58
                    0
                    Thanks! I hope so
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            2. Bratkov Oleg
              Bratkov Oleg 5 March 2022 22: 09
              +16
              Some highways were originally conceived as reserve, field airfields.
            3. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 5 March 2022 23: 11
              +6
              Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
              But in any case, it is strange that they allowed to rise into the air

              Gave rise and shot down. They would have sat in the huts and would have remained alive.
        2. alexey alexeyev_2
          alexey alexeyev_2 6 March 2022 03: 12
          -6
          And Khinshtein’s eyes seemed to start running. The cat knows whose msiao he ate. Cowardly There must be an estate in France
        3. Kapral Alphych
          Kapral Alphych 6 March 2022 04: 42
          0
          I've been saying the same thing all my life! I'm glad that it appeared on TV screens! I hope it will reach our authorities that in the West they will always be of no use to anyone! At most, as long as they can shit in Russia, they will still be tolerated! But as soon as such "comrades" are no longer needed, at best they will simply be forgotten, and most likely they will be finished.
      2. Borik
        Borik 5 March 2022 21: 27
        +22
        And where could the "partners" get the SU-27 from? Although it was mentioned here how one flew over the hill to the SU, and here they write about four. And if we discard all the misunderstandings with these planes, no matter where they take off from, a quite serious air battle took place in which ours won without their losses. Glory to our VKS and ARMY.
        1. Airdefence_107
          Airdefence_107 5 March 2022 22: 11
          +26
          The Armed Forces of Ukraine had their own 20 combat-ready Su-27s and 40 combat-ready MiG-29s. And according to the Pentagon, a smaller part of the combat-ready combat aircraft of Ukraine (including bombers and attack aircraft) has been destroyed so far. So they took off after all from Ukraine.
          1. Konnick
            Konnick 5 March 2022 22: 33
            +6
            So they took off after all from Ukraine.

            On the forum they write in Russian - you have to write "from Ukraine".
        2. flicker
          flicker 5 March 2022 23: 29
          -15
          And where could the "partners" get the SU-27

          But from where:
          Judging by the publication on Facebook, the Ukrainian Air Force, which lost all the aircraft during the operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, carried out by the Russian Armed Forces, is being revived again. Bulgaria, Poland and Slovakia are transferring 70 combat aircraft to Ukraine.
          1. aslan balayev
            aslan balayev 6 March 2022 00: 56
            +3
            Everyone has already turned them down. crying
            1. flicker
              flicker 6 March 2022 01: 16
              -3
              It's officially denied. The US officially has nothing to do with it either. And not officially could well be transferred.
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 6 March 2022 01: 29
                +2
                Quote: flicker
                It's officially denied. And not officially they could well transfer

                The story with the "transfer of aircraft to the Armed Forces of Ukraine" was last week, you apparently missed it. It started with a cartoon launched by someone from Ukraine, then all three governments, allegedly "transferring" planes, yelled in unison "I'm innocent! And I'm not passing anything on to anyone."

                Here somewhere they wrote where the planes could come from:
                1. Overtaken before Caliber landed at the main airfield.
                2. From storage, it turns out that there are such in the west of Ukraine.
                1. Dikson
                  Dikson 6 March 2022 08: 10
                  0
                  Yesterday, Yandex Crappy claimed that eight Polish repainted aircraft had already been transferred to Western Ukraine .. - and they kind of expressed some concern that the pilots there were psheks .. Today, this "news" is no longer in the Yandex feed ..
                2. flicker
                  flicker 6 March 2022 13: 17
                  -1
                  you must have missed
                  Apparently, a little later I saw that neither Bulgaria, Poland, nor Slovakia had the SU-27.
          2. pytar
            pytar 6 March 2022 01: 26
            +3
            Quote: flicker
            And where could the "partners" get the SU-27

            But from where:
            Judging by the publication on Facebook, the Ukrainian Air Force, which lost all the aircraft during the operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, carried out by the Russian Armed Forces, is being revived again. Bulgaria, Poland and Slovakia are transferring 70 combat aircraft to Ukraine.

            Can you tell if the countries you indicated have ever had a Su-27? At least one even! And about 70-alala, the purest fake.
            1. flicker
              flicker 6 March 2022 13: 19
              +1
              Can you tell if the countries you indicated have ever had a Su-27?
              I agree, I mentioned it above.
      3. gansales
        gansales 5 March 2022 21: 34
        +5
        Quote: Sailor
        I hope not from the airfields of the "partners", otherwise VV promised to punish the members.

        I hope .. Many of these countries have already abandoned their words, but they cannot be trusted Andrey.
      4. ZEMCH
        ZEMCH 6 March 2022 01: 26
        +2
        Quote: Sailor
        I hope not from the airfields of the "partners", otherwise VV promised to punish the members.

        Almost all civilian airfields are intact, the same Boryspil, for example, was left for the evacuation of foreigners))) They promised the Turks a corridor, etc. From all these airfields you can take off and land
    2. dnestr74
      dnestr74 5 March 2022 21: 17
      +30
      Since Soviet times, Ukraine has had luxurious military airfields with anti-missile bunkers.
      1. Vavilov
        Vavilov 5 March 2022 21: 41
        +11
        quite right, on the border of Mukachevo chop Uzhhorod
    3. NIKN
      NIKN 5 March 2022 21: 19
      +28
      Quote from gansales
      Where did they come from?

      From storage, re-mothballing and restoring airworthiness is not too difficult a task. They didn’t touch the storage bases, but all the aviation from the USSR is stored there, spare parts from the same place were restored, apparently not quite according to the regulations. But who is watching there now .. Restoring the strip if it is not regularly put out of action is also not a problem. According to the standards there, if the FAB 500 strip is damaged, something less than 6 hours for recovery in order to be able to operate front-line aircraft. There are many Rembaz there, one in Lvov.
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 5 March 2022 21: 21
        +5
        Quote: NIKNN
        The storage databases did not fail.

        Didn't they hit the storage bases?
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 5 March 2022 21: 24
          +10
          It seems that only for airfields, for "scrap metal" there was not much point. It was not possible to restore them in peacetime, because according to the regulations you cannot restore them, because. spare parts must be normal with a period of permitted operation, and now who will look at it, from the same (from the storage base) other aircraft are removed and put in what regulations they have now.
        2. Bratkov Oleg
          Bratkov Oleg 5 March 2022 22: 12
          +7
          Right there, on this site, they took a base with 4.500 tons of ammunition, and a bunch of equipment. It seems like the office and a couple of barracks were ripped apart by pinpoint strikes, well, it seems to me that way from the description, but the equipment remained
    4. S_Baykala
      S_Baykala 5 March 2022 21: 24
      +2
      A priori, there cannot be pilots among the Bandera people: the cockpit does not allow jumping.
    5. Terenin
      Terenin 5 March 2022 21: 32
      +7
      we still can't talk about all our successes

      what
      1. Cotton Colorado
        Cotton Colorado 5 March 2022 21: 42
        +6
        Quote: Terenin
        we still can't talk about all our successes

        I see, guys, shut up and wet!
        We will wait.

        Whose guys did you wish this for?
        The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine spoke out about the successes laughing
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 5 March 2022 21: 47
          +10
          Quote: Cotton Colorado
          Quote: Terenin
          we still can't talk about all our successes

          I see, guys, shut up and wet!
          We will wait.

          Whose guys did you wish this for?
          The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine spoke out about the successes laughing

          Oh, how can you be pissed off.
          No, I'm talking about ours. APU shnye gn.dy didn’t fucking give up on me.
          1. Cotton Colorado
            Cotton Colorado 5 March 2022 21: 50
            +4
            Quote: Terenin
            Quote: Cotton Colorado
            Quote: Terenin
            we still can't talk about all our successes

            I see, guys, shut up and wet!
            We will wait.

            Whose guys did you wish this for?
            The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine spoke out about the successes laughing

            Oh, how can you be pissed off.
            No, I'm talking about ours. APU shnye gn.dy didn’t fucking give up on me.

            And the old woman is proruha laughing drinks
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 5 March 2022 21: 54
              +5
              Quote: Cotton Colorado
              Quote: Terenin
              Quote: Cotton Colorado
              Quote: Terenin
              we still can't talk about all our successes

              I see, guys, shut up and wet!
              We will wait.

              Whose guys did you wish this for?
              The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine spoke out about the successes laughing

              Oh, how can you be pissed off.
              No, I'm talking about ours. APU shnye gn.dy didn’t fucking give up on me.

              And the old woman is proruha laughing drinks

              This is exactly drinks
          2. texneker
            texneker 5 March 2022 22: 14
            -17
            APU shnye gn.dy didn’t fucking give up on me.
            Well, very evil ... And so, they are fed, dressed, examined by a doctor in places of detention, a call home and then a free bus with air conditioning, as it was with Zmiin, it’s just a pleasure to watch !!!
            Stalin and Beria, rattling bones in coffins ... the descendants became, so democratic and understanding, all the hardships of serving in Ukraine with the Kiev supreme commander-buffoon, in this internal war with Nazism and total armed banditry.
    6. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 5 March 2022 22: 05
      -5
      Quote from gansales
      Where did they come from?
    7. burigaz2010
      burigaz2010 5 March 2022 22: 09
      +2
      Hello Vitaly, is this the most interesting thing about the destroyed ships?
    8. isv000
      isv000 5 March 2022 22: 17
      +2
      Quote from gansales
      Where did they come from?
      Although there was infa that there a grouping of the All-Union Bandera refused to obey Kiev .. Like we are on our own

      The lads hid before the time, they decided that it had come - but in vain ...
    9. g1v2
      g1v2 5 March 2022 22: 54
      +19
      The planes that survived the strikes of the first days on airfields were relocated to others - closer to the west. Plus private airfields and apparently civilian ones. They do not represent any serious force and cannot influence the course of the database, but they will try to inflict damage. There weren't many of them anyway, and now they're just crumbs. Yes, and without the material and technical base of native airfields, again, they will not fight much. In general, these are one-time departures for them.
      You also need to understand that although the unified air defense system of Ukraine has been destroyed, there are still enough air defense systems there. 51 divisions is about 300 srk if roughly. Beeches. s300, s200, s125. Destroyed and captured from them - in the region of 60. That is, most of the air defense systems are hiding somewhere. Our VKS are looking for and destroying them, but until they are active, it is difficult to find them. Again, there is no unified air defense system and they cannot cover their objects, but they can inflict damage completely.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 6 March 2022 08: 13
        +1
        in principle, it’s nothing complicated, to fill up the ASG funnel and throw a couple of concrete slabs from the top of the taxiway - that’s how the runway was restored .. Ours are not constantly nailing these airfields .. and the destruction from a single rocket strike can be restored in a day without straining ..
    10. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 5 March 2022 23: 09
      +3
      Quote from gansales
      Where did they come from?

      It doesn’t matter where from ... They won’t take off anymore ...
    11. Maz
      Maz 6 March 2022 00: 00
      +4
      Gavrikas arrived. Washed their guys competently
    12. Mister X
      Mister X 6 March 2022 18: 29
      -3
      hi
      A clear fake was published yesterday by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine
      Russian Air Force?!
      Hello! Already 7 years as VKS
      You would also write the Russian Imperial Air Force


      Look at the photo of the parachute, who is in the subject.
      What kind of model, and to which state can it belong?
      1. Sanguinius
        Sanguinius 7 March 2022 06: 26
        +1
        Do not write nonsense ... on the sides of our aircraft, as they applied the "Russian Air Force", they still do it, since the Russian Air Force is a GENERAL OF TROOPS, consisting of a TYPE OF TROOPS of the Russian Aerospace Forces. There is no fake in this.
        1. Mister X
          Mister X 8 March 2022 20: 42
          -1
          Quote: Sanguinius
          and on the sides of our aircraft, as they applied the "Russian Air Force", they do

          A frame from the official video of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
          In addition to the star - nothing more is applied on board
          1. Sanguinius
            Sanguinius 9 March 2022 20: 55
            0


            Pay attention to the tail, and from your bad screenshot you can see that the Mi-24 has inscriptions on the tail
            1. Mister X
              Mister X 9 March 2022 21: 20
              0
              Quote: Sanguinius
              Pay attention to the tail

              We can exchange screenshots until autumn
              Source https://structure.mil.ru/structure/forces/vks/news/[email protected]

              1. Sanguinius
                Sanguinius 9 March 2022 21: 39
                0
                Well, look for yourself what you threw me))) on the Tail of the Ka-52, pay attention to what is printed above the letter Z, on the tail))
                They proved everything to themselves)
                1. Mister X
                  Mister X 9 March 2022 22: 04
                  0
                  Quote: Sanguinius
                  They proved everything to themselves)

                  Now for the 3rd answer.
                  I turned to a knowledgeable person for advice.
                  There are hundreds of his articles on VO. You must have read some of them.
                  He does not welcome what is happening in Ukraine.
                  Here is his reply dated March 7th:
                  Believe it or not.
                  1. Sanguinius
                    Sanguinius 9 March 2022 22: 11
                    +1
                    And here he is right, our MO also does not tell the truth, at least partially
                    I just don’t see the point of the dispute, because everything is obvious to me, our aviation suffers losses there too, and this is a fact. See this picture, most likely with the Mi-28N turntable, the Mi-28 does not have an ejection system, the crew fires off the blades and the cockpit door before leaving the car in an emergency and jumps out of the turntable themselves, respectively, only one parachute system is visible here.
                    1. Mister X
                      Mister X 9 March 2022 22: 15
                      0
                      Quote: Sanguinius
                      on the Tail of the Ka-52, note what is written above the letter Z, on the tail))
                      They proved everything to themselves)


                      VKS is written, isn't it?



                      1. Sanguinius
                        Sanguinius 9 March 2022 22: 35
                        0
                        I see, I'm sorry I didn't see it. Maybe you are right about this picture. BUT there are many photos with turntables that have the Air Force on their tails, perhaps the markings have not yet been changed for everyone. Maybe it's even Mi-24, not Mi28
                      2. Mister X
                        Mister X 9 March 2022 22: 50
                        -1
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        maybe not all labels have been changed yet

                        According to this photo, they may have played in a graphic editor
                        People had comments on shadows, refraction, and other design nuances.
                        We have been spoiled with fakes for a long time:
                        then they will show us a fire from Turkey,
                        then the girl in the Syrian hospital is crying,
                        then again a fire, already in the warehouse of Boshirov and Petrov
                        All this allegedly in Ukraine.

                      3. Mister X
                        Mister X 10 March 2022 14: 03
                        0
                        Quote: Sanguinius
                        BUT there are many pictures with turntables that have the Air Force on their tails

                        Pictured are 2 other cars
                        Frame from the video of the Russian Ministry of Defense today at 8:37
      2. Mister X
        Mister X 7 March 2022 09: 16
        0
        Quote: Bongo
        ,

        What can you say about the car and the parachute?
        1. Sanguinius
          Sanguinius 7 March 2022 10: 11
          +1
          in my opinion, this is the Mi-28N, our parachute system and nothing else, but whose else could it be on the other side?
  2. Irokez
    Irokez 5 March 2022 21: 10
    +3
    Camouflage works if they are still flying.
  3. 2я19
    2я19 5 March 2022 21: 11
    0
    I'll knock on wood so as not to jinx it!
  4. polpot
    polpot 5 March 2022 21: 11
    +4
    To hell in hell of work to be added
  5. rusich
    rusich 5 March 2022 21: 13
    +9
    They lowered a ukrovoyak from heaven. work brothers
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 5 March 2022 21: 26
      +18
      Work brothers, and come back everyone...
      Honor and praise to those who did the job to the end.
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 5 March 2022 21: 14
    +6
    Actually, having superiority in the air, we must work to pre-empt, seek out from the air, and destroy the remnants of Ukrainian aircraft on the ground!
    1. dnestr74
      dnestr74 5 March 2022 21: 33
      +5
      If the fighters are in the bunker, fuck you take it.
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 5 March 2022 22: 44
        +3
        What is he, how is the ICBM packaged? There are concrete bombs.
        1. dnestr74
          dnestr74 5 March 2022 22: 47
          +9
          There is ... But this is already concrete work on each caponier-caponiers at the airfield, about 10-15 pieces, but they were with elevators for more than one plane, they were preparing for a nuclear war.
  7. 2я19
    2я19 5 March 2022 21: 14
    -1
    But isn't this the first case of losing the 27th in an air battle?
    1. akarfoxhound
      akarfoxhound 5 March 2022 21: 27
      +19
      No, not the first. Text from 3 March:
      Today, among seven other servicemen, a military pilot was awarded the title of Hero of Russia.
      Read the lines from the view.

      This is not a cartoon "ghost of Kyiv", this is a real Russian fighter!

      (photo of the hero on the Internet, just a terrible photoshop, so for now only text)

      "The navigator of the fighter aviation regiment, Major Viktor Dudin, has been fulfilling the tasks of denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine since the first day of the special military operation.

      He made his first flight on the morning of 24 February. During combat patrols to cover the advancing group of troops, he discovered a Su-27 fighter of the Ukrainian armed forces. Skillfully performing an air maneuver, Viktor Dudin destroyed an enemy aircraft from the first approach in a duel battle, preventing a strike on our troops.

      Two days later, the Russian aviator was tasked with hitting the Buk-M1 mobile anti-aircraft missile systems of the Ukrainian armed forces. The complexity of the task was the presence of an active enemy air defense system in the patrol area. Skillfully applying the combat experience gained, Viktor Dudin boldly and decisively approached the area of ​​operation of the Ukrainian air defense systems. At an extremely low altitude of 400 m, having identified itself in the enemy's radar field, the aircraft of the Russian air force entered the target area. After turning on the Ukrainian Buk-M1 installation, Viktor Dudin instantly hit it with a rocket, while leaving the zone of destruction of other air defense systems.

      On February 28, Major Dudin, as part of a pair of fighters, flew to intercept two Ukrainian Su-27 aircraft that were approaching to deliver an air strike. At an altitude of 10 thousand meters, skillfully performing a maneuver and taking an advantageous position, Viktor Dudin, demonstrating the highest skill, hit the enemy with the first rocket. Then a pair of Russian fighters, finding the second outgoing aircraft, hit it with crossfire.

      On March 1, while carrying out combat patrols to control airspace after detecting a Ukrainian Su-27 fighter, using the effect of surprise, he destroyed an air target with the first missile launch ... "
      rg.ru
      1. 2я19
        2я19 5 March 2022 21: 34
        +8
        Very good, even wonderful!
      2. vindigo
        vindigo 5 March 2022 21: 43
        +8
        ABOUT! Ukrainians, as always, were mistaken. The ghost of Kyiv is fighting in Russian aviation ..
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 March 2022 21: 15
    +9
    Ukrainian dryers flew out on a "free hunt" who will hurt them. NATO? Who knows that the NVD is hanging by Poland and Romania from NATO.
  9. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 5 March 2022 21: 16
    0
    The wreckage of a downed Su-27 over Ochakovo.
    A beautiful bird ... was


    Our specialists are already having an educational conversation with the Ukrainian pilot. Not yet on Scopolamine

    1. dmmyak40
      dmmyak40 5 March 2022 21: 19
      +5
      Apparently, he made an emergency landing: the plane was almost intact, burned on the ground, almost did not collapse.
    2. A009
      A009 5 March 2022 21: 23
      +15
      This is a video of the Ukrainian military and, allegedly, of a downed Russian pilot.
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    4. Petio
      Petio 5 March 2022 21: 28
      +5
      This is a Russian pilot from the Su-34 shot down today
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 5 March 2022 21: 51
        -11
        This is a Russian pilot from the Su-34 shot down today

        You probably made a mistake. The wreckage may belong to the Su-25 attack aircraft

        Su-34 is a bomber, it does not operate at low altitudes. The Nazis couldn't get him with their stingers
        1. Slap
          Slap 5 March 2022 22: 26
          +2
          I do not agree. There are some videos of the Su-34 flying at low altitudes.
        2. dnestr74
          dnestr74 5 March 2022 23: 03
          +3
          Yes, there was a video and not one, where 34 go low, as I understand it, because of sleeping beeches and s-300
          1. Petio
            Petio 5 March 2022 23: 48
            +4
            We must use our strength to suppress large air defense missiles up to Buk on and climb 4-6000 meters. Otherwise, there will be more losses. Today we flew low and the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to massively use MANPADS. Although not Stingeri mostly but Needle
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      1. dnestr74
        dnestr74 5 March 2022 21: 38
        +11
        The pilots will be returned, those who interrogated will be destroyed.
        1. Liam
          Liam 5 March 2022 21: 41
          -31
          4 more helicopters today. Confirmed. With video and photos.
          Lend-lease...Stingers..
          1. Ivan is not indifferent
            Ivan is not indifferent 5 March 2022 21: 50
            +5
            a link to a photo confirming the loss of helicopters
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              1. Cotton Colorado
                Cotton Colorado 5 March 2022 22: 13
                +12
                Quote: Liam
                4 more helicopters today. Confirmed. With video and photos.
                Lend-lease...Stingers..

                Whose four helicopters? Can you specific?
                Quote: Liam
                The Internet is full. They won’t let them through right there. Censorship, s ... here, only bonnets in the air

                Really? Or maybe you’ll get under the article?
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 5 March 2022 22: 17
                  +15
                  Quote: Wadded Colorado
                  Really? Or maybe you’ll get under the article?

                  Chel trolls, and you are being led. It lives in Italy, as far as I know, and the article is on its side.
                  1. Cotton Colorado
                    Cotton Colorado 5 March 2022 22: 25
                    +8
                    Quote: Repellent
                    Quote: Wadded Colorado
                    Really? Or maybe you’ll get under the article?

                    Chel trolls, and you are being led. It lives in Italy, as far as I know, and the article is on its side.

                    Grandma said for two! Today on the side, and tomorrow it may turn out to be at the bucket.
                    From prison and from the bag do not promise!
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          3. dnestr74
            dnestr74 5 March 2022 23: 04
            +4
            We will close the border for you soon - and pinda land lens
            1. Grits
              Grits 6 March 2022 12: 59
              0
              Quote: dnestr74
              We will close the border for you soon - and pinda land lens

              But this border will have to be closed by the same planes. Which can be knocked down by the same stingers. The circle is closed.
          4. Flooding
            Flooding 6 March 2022 08: 31
            -1
            Quote: Liam
            4 more helicopters today. Confirmed. With video and photos.
            Lend-lease...Stingers..

            February paycheck soon?
      2. ole1
        ole1 5 March 2022 22: 07
        +1
        over ochakovy su 25 shot down and not su 30
      3. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 5 March 2022 22: 16
        0
        When will the glorious Italian and Moldovan Air Forces enter the battle and not be disgraced?
      4. Garris199
        Garris199 5 March 2022 22: 44
        0
        What knocked them down? BEECH?
        1. Liam
          Liam 5 March 2022 22: 54
          -19
          Stinger.

          https://youtu.be/5IgoMxN-pEA
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 5 March 2022 22: 59
            +2
            Quote: Liam
            Stinger

            What's with the helicopter? And some left helicopter...

            Take your time, be careful, be careful yes
            1. kig
              kig 6 March 2022 04: 59
              0
              Quote: Repellent
              And some left helicopter...

              What's on the left side of it?
          2. kig
            kig 6 March 2022 05: 47
            -2
            In general, the video, in my opinion, of course, is a little strange.
            1. It is not clear where the film was taken from: a flying helicopter is even slightly below the shooting point. A hill, a tree, some kind of tower?
            2. Absolutely no sound.
            3. Why is there only one helicopter? I think there should be at least a couple
            4. The camera traces the path of the helicopter's fall, but there is no natural sound in this case, such as "!!....??...."
    6. Force
      Force 5 March 2022 21: 36
      +5
      Delete the photo of the pilot out of harm's way ....
      (you can find a video on the Internet, you will understand everything)
    7. flint
      flint 5 March 2022 21: 41
      -10
      It's funny that Ukrainians bring these photos about our supposedly shot down pilot over Chernigov
    8. Ivan is not indifferent
      Ivan is not indifferent 5 March 2022 21: 48
      +4
      The photos are not related. On the top, a Su-30 from the Crimea is on fire, on the bottom, a member of the Su-34 crew who survived after an ejection near Chernigov
      1. Grits
        Grits 6 March 2022 13: 01
        +1
        Quote: Ivan the Indifferent
        on the bottom - a member of the Su-34 crew who survived after an ejection near Chernigov

        Although according to our bravura reports, Chernigov is already practically in the rear of our advancing troops. Where did the Ukrainian military, who captured the pilot, come from then? Or do we just drive on the roads, and leave everything else behind us along with the military?
    9. Sanguinius
      Sanguinius 5 March 2022 22: 27
      +3
      This is our pilot, not Ukrainian.
  10. ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 5 March 2022 21: 16
    +2
    If the dogfight really was very interesting details. What vehicles opposed SU27 at what distance.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 5 March 2022 21: 33
      +6
      Quote: ssergey1978
      interesting details. What vehicles opposed the SU27 at what distance.

      Su-30
      Ours haven’t hit Ozerny yet, so the Su-27 these remained, but in vain they raise, there is no chance.
  11. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 5 March 2022 21: 16
    +33
    The bastards from the APU beat our prisoners, mock, the APU is not an army, but a gang!
    I hope they get caught and punished!
    1. Stone
      Stone 5 March 2022 22: 02
      +15
      Ukraine, apparently, is a terrorist state, like ISIS. Therefore, it is time to rename the special operation to CTO.
  12. Third district
    Third district 5 March 2022 21: 21
    +8
    According to Ukrainian data, during all the days of the operation, the Russian Armed Forces lost: 39 aircraft, 40 helicopters, 269 tanks, 945 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 105 guns, 19 air defense systems, 50 MLRS, 2 ships and 3 UAVs.

    As the song says: "Dreamer! You called me ..."
    1. vindigo
      vindigo 5 March 2022 22: 17
      +8
      All the same, the losses will be tangible. The enemy is not hand-assed Arabs. I wonder what kind of ships the Ukrainians are talking about, at least from fakes. Are they aiming at Moscow?
  13. Fitter65
    Fitter65 5 March 2022 21: 23
    +7
    The Russian Aerospace Forces conducted an air battle in the Zhytomyr region, shooting down four Ukrainian fighters at once. This was reported in the Ministry of Defense.
    Yes, it’s like a maestro. We won’t hit on takeoff ..... How the landing gear removed the takeoff is over ... Well, there’s like urine .... yes, urine itself. Damn, can I shoot him from a cannon? have a conscience here and so we are standing in line to shoot down a yellow-Blakit one ... Negotiations between Russian pilots and KDP.
  14. K-50
    K-50 5 March 2022 21: 24
    +21
    Also, the Air Defense Forces destroyed the Mi-8 helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force

    "Mishka" was shot down near Mariupol in the morning. The bodies of two pilots and ten right-wingers were found in the wreckage. Apparently they were trying to escape. The information was from the DNR.
  15. NSV
    NSV 5 March 2022 21: 25
    +1
    Whom to believe?!?!? Then our entire Ukrainian aviation was besieged, now it turns out that they don’t?! The potheads, who now have neither aviation nor air defense, report that our planes are shot down every day ....
    1. Sailor
      Sailor 5 March 2022 21: 32
      +9
      Well, MANPADS were brought wild, unfortunately there will be trouble. And about every day they say, it's like in a joke about a pensioner: "and you say"
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 5 March 2022 21: 41
        +21
        Well, today Su-34 w / n 24 was shot down, one was killed, the second was captured and there is a video, it’s pretty tough there (they call the family and promise to send it in parts).
        The Su-30SM of the Navy also fell - the pilots in captivity are both in characteristic orange overalls, that is, it is definitely the Su-30 of the Navy, and not the Su-27 or Su-34.

        There is also a video with two more (one pilot, the second on a hill, the operator is visible in the cargo compartment) and one dead + Mi-24/35 on fire and characteristic Russian defense shields with call signs. During interrogation, they say that they flew to rescue the crew (seen on the Su-30 or Su-34).

        In general, today for aviation it is actually a black Saturday because 3 aircraft - 100% lost, numerous photo and video evidence + dead and prisoners.
        1. Liam
          Liam 5 March 2022 21: 50
          -21
          At this rate, the VKS will remain without aviation in a week. There were enough Stingers for this ....
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 5 March 2022 22: 12
            +15
            In fact, the losses are moderate. Again - 2 Ka-52s (the crews were evacuated), 1 Mi24/35 (the crew died) which fell into the Kiev Sea in the video, 1 Mi-35M (unknown from the crew) - which fell on the outskirts and burned down (GSh-23L + ball OLS), several Su-25SMs (2 exactly according to the tail numbers and registration, 1 is also possible, but there is also the possibility of a fake if desired, because there are much fewer materials from it) and in general, everything from the confirmed is real.

            Today, it actually fell like for all 9 days. sad
            1. Liam
              Liam 5 March 2022 22: 19
              -20
              Quote: donavi49
              losses are moderate

              Keep in mind that this is only what fell on Ukrainian territory and is documented. What fell on the territory of the troops of the Russian Federation-MO naturally will not be shared with you.

              A burst of losses is instantaneous in almost different places, which means the saturation of the troops with Stingers. This is no longer episodic use, but massive. It will only get worse. A few days of such losses and aircraft will have to be landed. ends. We must think what will happen later, how the country will be defended for at least the next decade
              1. donavi49
                donavi49 5 March 2022 22: 22
                +8
                Well, the Stingers generally get by. MANPADS are still a weapon against impudence and more helicopters. Climbing a minimum of up to 4,5-5 km and serious blows. Yes, less efficient and targeted, but you can live relatively safely.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 5 March 2022 22: 25
                  -26
                  Quote: donavi49
                  Climbing a minimum of up to 4,5-5 km

                  This is money down the drain and not bombing. You will soon see this.
                  1. donavi49
                    donavi49 5 March 2022 22: 31
                    +4
                    Well, I don’t know at all how the Defense Ministry is going to storm cities in 1,5-2 Grozny with about a million people. Actually, without the capture of Kyiv / Kharkov / Dnipro / Zaporozhye - no one will sign the surrender. In the same Kyiv, today, according to the KMDA (city administration), 2,8 million and a bunch of troops from various pulled out tactical groups, to the defense, MTR, GUR and other airmobiles. The most experienced mechanized brigade in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is sitting in Kharkov - 92nd mechanized brigade, and it was re-armed with everything ready from the KhTZ (they transferred the BMP-2 batch, T-64, as well as all sorts of exotic things like the experienced Kevlar BMP) + Natsiks + Freikorps (also Natsiks) + very strong Terodefense with serious weapons.

                    That is, the assault must be done in a serious, systematic way and the city is literally in ruins.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 5 March 2022 22: 42
                      -15
                      Just like I was going to defeat a country of 40 million people in a couple of days with 5 scattered groups without an elbow connection between them, numbering 150.000 people on a front of 2 km. Moreover, a detailed plan of this brilliant idea has been walking around all Western tabloids since January, and the respectable community on VO merrily laughed at his debility throughout February.



                      What will happen to any of these groups if the Ukrainians strike? Who will help? According to the Americans operational
                      there are no more Russian reserves around Ukraine. Everything is thrown into battle
                      1. 76SSSR
                        76SSSR 5 March 2022 23: 02
                        +6
                        Chechako... Are you somehow, at least superficially, related to the armed forces, excuse me?
                      2. 76SSSR
                        76SSSR 5 March 2022 23: 04
                        +2
                        Quote: Liam
                        According to the Americans

                        Uchi-way... I have a direct desire to pat you on the head according to your age...)
                      3. 76SSSR
                        76SSSR 6 March 2022 00: 36
                        +2
                        And in general, the Nazi trash on this resource is somehow inappropriate, by golly ... Yes, all the more sofa-applied. Although, I don’t even want to comment on this, because the person is not even a military man. What kind of wars are we talking about...
                      4. dnestr74
                        dnestr74 5 March 2022 23: 09
                        +2
                        I wonder what reserves the Ukrainians will strike from?
                      5. Liam
                        Liam 5 March 2022 23: 14
                        -19
                        Quote: dnestr74
                        I wonder what reserves the Ukrainians will strike from?

                        This probably passed by your attention ... but on the very first day in Ukraine, a partial mobilization of 100.000 reservists was announced. These are 20 brigades or so.

                        And in the east of the country, so far only the pre-war personnel army and the territorial defense are fighting.
                      6. Repellent
                        Repellent 5 March 2022 23: 23
                        +4
                        Quote: Liam
                        a partial mobilization of 100.000 reservists was announced. These are 20 brigades

                        Yeah. Peshestrelkovykh.
                      7. Alexey G
                        Alexey G 5 March 2022 23: 43
                        +8
                        Your glorious reserves are fleeing to Poland! I saw vids about it!
                      8. dnestr74
                        dnestr74 5 March 2022 23: 53
                        +4
                        Who went through combat coordination?
                      9. Liam
                        Liam 5 March 2022 23: 59
                        -14
                        They do exactly this. And they learn to shoot from Javel nov / Stingers and everything else that comes under lend-lease in unlimited quantities.
                        Do not forget that the war in Ukraine is already 8 years old and they have hundreds of thousands of reservists with combat experience
                      10. Repellent
                        Repellent 6 March 2022 00: 05
                        +2
                        Quote: Liam
                        learn to shoot from Javel nov / Stingers and everything else that goes on lend-lease in unlimited quantities

                        According to "lend-lease" there is a rifle, ATGM and MANPADS. Techniques - zero to zero and a vegetable along. Artillery - similarly.

                        It will be very interesting to see the hundred thousandth on foot army laughing
                      11. Flooding
                        Flooding 6 March 2022 08: 40
                        -2
                        Quote: Liam
                        And they learn to shoot from Javel nov / Stingers and everything else that goes on lend-lease in unlimited quantities

                        stop using the term "lend-lease"
                        weapons are sent for free, as long as it shoots at Russians
                        so this word is not applicable in this situation
                        although someone really wants to draw a parallel
                      12. Alexey G
                        Alexey G 5 March 2022 23: 41
                        -1
                        The data of the Americans is not worth a penny after their escape from Afghanistan! And it's not for you to judge our reserves! You are an analyst!
                      13. Alexey G
                        Alexey G 7 March 2022 10: 53
                        -1
                        What? who believes in US intelligence???
                      14. Paranoid50
                        Paranoid50 5 March 2022 23: 48
                        +2
                        Quote: Liam
                        Ukraine is no more. Everything is thrown into battle

                        wassat wassat wassat That's it, the slut can be demolished. It will only get more boring. yes laughing
                      15. Repellent
                        Repellent 5 March 2022 23: 51
                        0
                        Quote: Paranoid50
                        That's it, you can take down the slipper

                        Well, why, people really delivers. Again, such a career: from motherfuckers to pasta, it's cool!

                        I would leave, purely for the collection ...
                      16. Airdefence_107
                        Airdefence_107 6 March 2022 00: 15
                        +2
                        I doubt that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the strength to work in large spaces. Deprived of the main warehouses, fuel. They are retreating even in the Donbass, where they have the largest concentration. In fact, they are driven into the cities. So there is no threat to these groups. There is a threat of being drawn into lengthy battles in cities that have not yet been occupied.
                      17. Liam
                        Liam 6 March 2022 01: 01
                        -6
                        Quote: Airdefence_107
                        Deprived of the main warehouses, fuel.

                        Do you understand the meaning of the word Lend-Lease and the volume of everything that is now being supplied from the West to Ukraine? These are hundreds of planes, thousands of trucks and dozens of trains every day with everything you need. The Armed Forces of Ukraine now have such a supply that the Russian army has never even dreamed of.

                        Quote: Airdefence_107
                        there is no threat to these groups

                        The hopes of young men feed ...
                        I see the Russians refuse to understand what kind of trap they have climbed into and what scale the catastrophe is brewing
                      18. Repellent
                        Repellent 6 March 2022 01: 18
                        -2
                        Quote: Liam
                        Do you understand the meaning of the word Lend-Lease and the volume of everything that is now being supplied from the West to Ukraine? This hundreds of aircraft, thousands of trucks and dozens of trains every day with everything you need

                        Yeah. The poet's soul could not bear it, and the brain ... turned sour.

                        Hundreds of planes - this is already a clinic laughing
                      19. Uncle Vanya Susanin
                        Uncle Vanya Susanin 6 March 2022 12: 51
                        -1
                        Just like I was going to defeat a 40 millionth country in a couple of days

                        In a couple of days, why not in a couple of minutes???
                        How can you believe in such nonsense???
                      20. MMX
                        MMX 6 March 2022 18: 51
                        -2
                        What blow, sickly? Centralized command has already been lost. The strongest troops in the cauldron sit up to their ears. Complete lack of initiative and maneuver.
                        And this despite the fact that ours absolutely do not have numerical superiority ...
                      21. Sloboda0
                        Sloboda0 7 March 2022 03: 02
                        -3
                        There is no task to deliver a counterstrike. This can be seen from the maps and the situation itself ... well, if you really know it.
                        Yes, don't touch them. You, crucifying as they lose, only hinder the cause.
                        Let them boil in their own juice.
                    2. Wildcat
                      Wildcat 6 March 2022 01: 15
                      +2
                      hi
                      without the capture of Kyiv / Kharkov / Dnieper / Zaporozhye - no one will sign the surrender
                      and with the capture will be? Is not a fact.

                      Well, I don’t know at all how the Defense Ministry is going to storm cities in 1,5-2 Grozny with about a million people.
                      and where to get infantry for this? If I understand correctly, today Putin congratulated women on the "advancing" and said that there were enough troops and there would be no mobilization, even volunteers for the military registration and enlistment office "not needed yet, but thank you" (something like that)? And without "boots on the ground", how to catch these same "20 brigades out of 100 people"?

                      And how to supply all this with vehicles and how to maintain communications?
                      1. Repellent
                        Repellent 6 March 2022 01: 35
                        +1
                        Quote: Wildcat
                        And without "boots on the ground", how to catch these same "20 brigades out of 100 people"?

                        This is how rumors are born.

                        The only source of information about these "teams" is someone Liam, a local troll creature originally from Moldova, now living in Italy (Liam, I'm not mistaken)? The natural question is - and these "brigades" generally have, or they are not?
                      2. Wildcat
                        Wildcat 6 March 2022 02: 03
                        +1
                        The only source of information about these "teams" is a certain Liam
                        - and it is not clear what is happening to them, if they exist. That's why I "pick" them. Collect 100000 people. probably, you can call them brigades, probably you can too.
                        It is possible, probably, even according to Liam's recipe, to play "strike / counterstrike" with these brigades - it will be epic, and that's it.

                        But the question "about the goals and objectives" of the operation is unclear and, IMHO, since time works for the enemy, it is necessary to launch the "Abramovich plan" or still increase the "boots on the ground". Otherwise, groups armed with portable weapons will continue to "hang next to the army" with grave consequences.

                        I no longer write about the question - how, having taken a conditional Kyiv, several million people should be fed every day.

                        And another very difficult question, Liam "increases" it a little, but potentially this is serious. As long as Lend Lease is a wearable weapon, it creates losses, serious losses, but not fatal ones. The army can still put more on the battlefield.
                        But if lend-lease moves from guns to tanks, aircraft and other heavy equipment, then there will be a huge risk.

                        So either the "plan named after Abramovich" or an increase in troops. Everything else, IMHO, is harmful and the enemy can take the initiative.
                      3. Repellent
                        Repellent 6 March 2022 02: 16
                        -4
                        Quote: Wildcat
                        So either the "plan named after Abramovich" ...

                        Hmm... sorry, but what is this? Or who?
                      4. Wildcat
                        Wildcat 6 March 2022 02: 30
                        0
                        You see, Abramovich, wanting to leave this mortal piece of land “without any problems at all”, not only found out that he is Portuguese, but also is going to sell Chelsea, somewhere for 2,2 yards. And all this money is going to be thrown into Ukraine.

                        So for us, if it comes to this, it would be nice to "sell something unnecessary" and escort it to Bankovaya Street ... they say, "you have goods - we have a merchant."
                      5. Repellent
                        Repellent 6 March 2022 02: 40
                        -3
                        Quote: Wildcat
                        going to sell Chelsea, somewhere for 2,2 yards. And all this money is going to be thrown into Ukraine

                        Hm... well, they'll plunder them there, don't go to a fortune-teller. But I got the idea.

                        Quote: Wildcat
                        if lend-lease moves from guns to tanks, aircraft and other heavy equipment

                        IMHO is unlikely. Either Soviet equipment is needed (and where to get it in sufficient quantities), or you will have to train "troops", for which there may simply not be enough time.

                        Therefore, IMHO, "brigades" (if any) are conceived as the core of future "partisans". No more.
                    3. vindigo
                      vindigo 6 March 2022 10: 38
                      0
                      I would take a systematic siege, cut off electricity and water. Residents of Kyiv will bring their warriors on a silver platter. Gradually would cut off the areas. He drummed up the found firing points and warehouses.
              2. Alexey G
                Alexey G 5 March 2022 23: 38
                -1
                Are you lying Liam or what's your name? Do not bark to us here about our aviation! The war is not what you think it is! And to death! And your thong won't help you! We will rip off and fuck all your Bandera people in all places !!! am
                1. Tuzik
                  Tuzik 6 March 2022 01: 44
                  0
                  Yes, Alexei, to death, to the delight of the Anglo-Saxons and the rest of the non-Russians
                  1. Alexey G
                    Alexey G 7 March 2022 10: 48
                    0
                    No, Andrey, do not stand, but fight to the death and not for joy, but for the fear of the Anglo-Saxons, who must understand that Russia has such interests that the Saxons can no longer meddle in, otherwise we will pinch their nose so much that it will not seem enough! And most importantly, they should understand the degree of our determination and focus, which cannot be stopped by sanctions or losses!!!
                2. Alexey G
                  Alexey G 7 March 2022 10: 46
                  0
                  And where are our patriots, that I was so given to minus these demons of darkness!
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 5 March 2022 22: 19
            +9
            Rejoice further. When will your gentlemen the Italian Air Force appear?
        2. Dali
          Dali 5 March 2022 22: 00
          -8
          Quote: donavi49
          In general, today for aviation it is actually a black Saturday because 3 aircraft - 100% lost, numerous photo and video evidence + dead and prisoners.

          Whose numerous photos and videos? ... now there are hundreds of false ones for one real fact ...
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 5 March 2022 22: 07
            +4
            Both planes and a helicopter + interrogations of pilots + photos and videos of the scene.




            According to the Su-34, there is a video of how it falls and ejects. According to the Su-30SM, the crash site + search and interrogation of the pilots where they call themselves, military unit (Saki), according to the Mi-24/35 - photo, photo of helmets with call signs, interrogation of the pilot and rescuer + photo of the deceased and docks.
            1. Dali
              Dali 5 March 2022 22: 12
              -3
              Quote: donavi49
              Both planes and a helicopter + interrogations of pilots + photos and videos of the scene.

              The photos you cited do not say anything ... there are already enough revelations like such photos on the Internet. And your words are just words ... who does gr. work for?
              1. donavi49
                donavi49 5 March 2022 22: 19
                +4
                And what about 4 Su-27s from the news besides words? If photos and videos mean nothing to you?
                1. Dali
                  Dali 5 March 2022 22: 34
                  -6
                  Quote: donavi49
                  And what about 4 Su-27s from the news besides words? If photos and videos mean nothing to you?

                  Those. do you need our pilots to take selfies during the battle?!
                  The brain does not work at all, gr.donafy?
                  1. donavi49
                    donavi49 5 March 2022 22: 38
                    +1
                    Well, so Konashenkov can declare the Death Star, but they were busy destroying it, so they didn’t film it.

                    And yet, any plane is regarded by the locals as "Like damned *******" and they will take pictures of it from all angles and also stuff the pilot's face, make him shout "Glory to Ukraine", etc. And only then, will they find out that it is their own. This is exactly what happened with the Mi-24V, Su-25 and Su-27 helicopters of the Ukrainian Air Force, as well as numerous columns. Including the National Guard near Kiev on KAMAZ, which the theoretic defense chopped, burned, kicked the bodies, and then the unpleasant truth came out.

                    I am guided by the fact that there is a photo / video.
                    1. Dali
                      Dali 5 March 2022 22: 44
                      -5
                      Quote: donavi49
                      And yet, any plane is regarded by the locals as "Like damned *******" and they will take pictures of it from all angles and also stuff the pilot's face, make him shout "Glory to Ukraine", etc. And only then, will they find out that it is their own. This is exactly what happened with the Mi-24V, Su-25 and Su-27 helicopters of the Ukrainian Air Force.

                      Quote: donavi49
                      I am guided by the fact that there is a photo / video.

                      In the photo of Svidomo, judging by the answer? On the Banderlog photoshops?

                      Duck, I also focus on photo-video, and so far I see photo-video toads !!!
                    2. Force
                      Force 5 March 2022 22: 55
                      +1
                      I am guided by the fact that there is a photo / video.

                      So do I.
                      But the weather in that area today was filthy along the way, they could not be seen corny from the ground.
                    3. Dali
                      Dali 5 March 2022 22: 55
                      0
                      Quote: donavi49
                      I am guided by the fact that there is a photo / video.

                      For example, I focus on videos such as, for example, in this article:
                      https://topwar.ru/193120-rossijskie-vojska-vzjali-pod-kontrol-bazu-vsu-s-bronetehnikoj-i-tysjachami-tonn-boepripasov.html

                      Can you imagine something like that?!
                      1. donavi49
                        donavi49 6 March 2022 09: 24
                        +3
                        If you watch the video from Izvestia and Zvezda from a drone, then there are 2 BMP-1Ps, 5 BRDM-2s, 2 T-64BVs of 2017, up to 20 different cars, 3-4 packs of pencils in boxes and quite a few boxes of small ammunition (cartridges, hand grenades, grenades for AGS, etc.) + tent camp + broken barracks + partially dug-in storage pipe.





                        As you can see, despite the filming, some people claim over 100 pieces of equipment for this base, and some even up to 100 tanks. wink
                    4. Alexey G
                      Alexey G 5 March 2022 23: 45
                      0
                      You're on fakes!
            2. Dali
              Dali 5 March 2022 22: 14
              -5
              Quote: donavi49
              According to the Su-34, there is a video of how it falls and ejects. According to the Su-30SM, the crash site + search and interrogation of the pilots where they call themselves, military unit (Saki), according to the Mi-24/35 - photo, photo of helmets with call signs, interrogation of the pilot and rescuer + photo of the deceased and docks.

              In a previous post, I asked you whose photo this is - and what did you answer me ... these writings and photos of yours smell of smell!
              1. donavi49
                donavi49 5 March 2022 22: 17
                +6
                Photo and video of local. But Konashenkov has 0 proofs in the news. So it's a matter of blind faith, you can believe whatever you want.

                I'm not going to post interrogations of prisoners and dead pilots here. If you want, then you can easily find it, because there are a lot of materials on today's events. There have already been five of the same interrogations (moreover, an urgent video was released from Zelensky with an order-requirement NOT TO TOUCH! For the partners will stop helping.). Especially specifically the downed Su-34 - there was a well-deserved one, lit up in reports from Syria, and the dead and captured pilots were at a photo shoot with Assad and Putin.
                1. Dali
                  Dali 5 March 2022 22: 22
                  -6
                  Quote: donavi49
                  Photo and video of local. But Konashenkov has 0 proofs in the news. So it's a matter of blind faith, you can believe whatever you want.

                  I'm not going to post interrogations of prisoners and dead pilots here. If you want, then you can easily find it, because there are a lot of materials on today's events. The same interrogations have already come out with five pieces. Especially specifically the downed Su-34 - there was a well-deserved one, lit up in reports from Syria, and the dead and captured pilots were at a photo shoot with Assad and Putin.

                  These are your words again and that's it!!!
                  I will also tell you this - you can easily find a bunch of materials that speak exactly the opposite way.
                  How can you really prove it? And faith has nothing to do with it!
                  Film mattress "Red Heat" remember: What is your evidence?!
        3. Sadam
          Sadam 6 March 2022 04: 46
          +1
          Ehh ... you see, the stingers have begun to reach ... if it continues like this, it is necessary to land aircraft
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 5 March 2022 21: 43
        +6
        Quote: Sailor
        Well, MANPADS were brought wild, unfortunately there will be trouble. And about every day they say, it's like in a joke about a pensioner: "and you say"

        But after all, MANPADS hit up to 4,5 kilometers. Why do ours fly low? After all, there are adjustable bombs.
        1. Liam
          Liam 5 March 2022 21: 51
          -24
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          But after all, MANPADS hit up to 4,5 kilometers. Why do ours fly low? After all, there are adjustable bombs.

          There is ... in the cartoons of the Commander-in-Chief. But in reality, cast iron
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 5 March 2022 21: 59
            +6
            There is ... in the cartoons of the Commander-in-Chief. But in reality, cast iron


            But there are no KABs in reality ?! Only Caliber, X-101 and FAB?!

            Maybe they fly low, because not all BUKs have been disabled yet and it is much easier to shoot down a plane at high altitude than at low altitude ?!
            1. Liam
              Liam 5 March 2022 22: 04
              -27
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              There are no CABs in reality ?!

              Watch the Zvezda channel less and read articles on VO with a bang.
              What is in reality, showed a real war.

              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              Calibres

              There were enough calibers for a liquid strike on the first day of the war, which went into milk basically. Neither air defense was suppressed, nor aviation was defeated on the ground, nor headquarters or communication centers were defeated.
              1. Lt. Air Force stock
                Lt. Air Force stock 5 March 2022 22: 15
                +4
                Quote: Liam
                There were enough calibers for a thin blow on the first day of the war

                In addition to calibers, there are also Iskanders, there are a lot of missiles.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 5 March 2022 22: 28
                  -15
                  Quote: Lt. air force reserve
                  In addition to calibers, there are also Iskanders, there are a lot of missiles.

                  Of course ... that's why for a week now I've been using them with single blows, 5 pieces a day.
                  1. Lt. Air Force stock
                    Lt. Air Force stock 5 March 2022 22: 30
                    +9
                    Quote: Liam
                    Of course ... that's why for a week now I've been using them with single blows, 5 pieces a day.

                    We have 160 launchers on each with 2 missiles, the same number of TZMs with two missiles on each. This is 160 * 2 = 320 on launchers, 320 on TZM, this is already 640 missiles. And there are more in warehouses, the total may be more than 1000 missiles. If they are not often used, this does not mean that they are few.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 5 March 2022 22: 32
                      -15
                      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
                      maybe more than 1000 missiles.

                      Maybe ... or maybe not. This war has already shown that there is not much of what was on paper, if not noticed.
                    2. Repellent
                      Repellent 5 March 2022 22: 35
                      -3
                      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
                      the total may be more than 1000 missiles


              2. Dali
                Dali 5 March 2022 22: 15
                -3
                Quote: Liam
                There were enough calibers for a liquid strike on the first day of the war, which went into milk basically. Neither air defense was suppressed, nor aviation was defeated on the ground, nor headquarters or communication centers were defeated.

                Do you work in the production of calibers? Or are they reporting to you personally?
                1. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 5 March 2022 23: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: Dali
                  work in the production of calibers?

                  It washes floors in Italy - in short, it works by numbers. yes wink
              3. Repellent
                Repellent 5 March 2022 22: 29
                0
                Quote: Liam
                Neither air defense was suppressed, nor aviation was defeated on the ground, nor headquarters or communication centers were defeated

                During the war ... horror-horror-horror belay

                How is sunny Italy? Hasn't sunk yet? wink laughing
                1. Dali
                  Dali 5 March 2022 22: 46
                  +4
                  Quote: Repellent
                  How is sunny Italy? Hasn't sunk yet?

                  They have such optics, such optics - optics to all opticians ... laughing
              4. MMX
                MMX 6 March 2022 18: 56
                -1
                there were enough calibers for a thin blow on the first day of the war.


                160 missiles - is it "thin"?
                Yes, you, my friend, are a cannibal.
            2. Alexey G
              Alexey G 5 March 2022 23: 48
              +4
              At high altitude, the pilot can maneuver on the protection system! Who told you that the lower the safer, but what about thongs?
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 5 March 2022 22: 20
            +5
            Cast iron is your Moldavian brain)) According to Lavrov further.
            What are you happy about? I forgot when the government of your Moldova on the courts begged Miller to supply gas? Here on your knees ask, and then shit. One word - Romanians.
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 5 March 2022 23: 51
              -1
              Quote: Okolotochny
              One word - Romanians.

              He looks like a Moldavian... request
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 5 March 2022 23: 52
                -3
                Quote: Paranoid50
                Quote: Okolotochny
                One word - Romanians.

                He looks like a Moldavian... request

                - Not saxauls, but aksakals...
                - Oh, one hell, Chukchi anyway ...
          3. Alexey G
            Alexey G 5 March 2022 23: 46
            -1
            Cast iron is your leftist propaganda! Block him somebody of this cast iron!!!
            1. Alexey G
              Alexey G 7 March 2022 10: 51
              -1
              Where are the patriots sites! They let me downvote! These Bandera!
        2. Ivan is not indifferent
          Ivan is not indifferent 5 March 2022 21: 55
          +6
          I suspect not. If you believe that the Su-34 near Chernigov carried 500 kg of bombs
          1. Ol willy
            Ol willy 7 March 2022 06: 31
            +2
            Taking such a handsome man as the Su-34, hanging an antediluvian FAB on it and sending it to bomb at low altitude is drug addiction
        3. Force
          Force 5 March 2022 22: 03
          +14
          Judging by the pictures, the usual cast iron was suspended
        4. Slap
          Slap 5 March 2022 22: 31
          0
          Disrupting guidance from MANPADS is easier than getting away from a missile. Plus, the APU still has Buki and S-300. So you are not sure that you can work at heights
      3. Airdefence_107
        Airdefence_107 5 March 2022 22: 28
        +8
        Even the Su-30 and Su-34 work for ultra-small ones. So, for sure, the horses still have stashed Buki. Leaving them, they stumble upon the Stingers...
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 March 2022 22: 45
      +4
      Quote: NSV
      Then our entire Ukrainian aviation besieged

      No one has ever talked about EVERYTHING. On such a vast territory, you can easily hide several aircraft.
  16. Petio
    Petio 5 March 2022 21: 29
    +4
    Quote: Petio
    This is a Russian pilot from the Su-34 shot down today

    Major Krasnoyartsev
    1. vs45
      vs45 5 March 2022 21: 40
      +5
      They killed both the pilot - the hero of the Syrian company and the plane .... I hope the navigator will survive in captivity .... Well, you can’t lose such planes !!!!
      1. GREG68
        GREG68 5 March 2022 21: 55
        +8
        Yes .... something was not planned in the General Staff of the Russian Federation and not so ....
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 March 2022 00: 02
          +1
          This is because our Air Force does not have normal reconnaissance and strike UAVs. Here the air defense of nichrome is suppressed and all airfields with equipment are not gouged.
      2. Ivan is not indifferent
        Ivan is not indifferent 5 March 2022 21: 57
        0
        killed by not suppressing air defense and driving 34s to Stingers
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 5 March 2022 21: 59
          0
          Quote: Ivan the Indifferent
          did not suppress air defense and drive 34s on Stingers

          fool fool fool
        2. dnestr74
          dnestr74 5 March 2022 23: 14
          +2
          How to suppress Stingers?
          1. Ol willy
            Ol willy 7 March 2022 06: 32
            -1
            Don't fly low
    2. Dali
      Dali 5 March 2022 22: 03
      -17
      Quote: Petio
      This is a Russian pilot from the Su-34 shot down today

      Major Krasnoyartsev

      Where do the firewood come from ... they personally report to you from the General Staff ?! belay
      Although if from Ukrobander, then it’s clear ...
      1. Kachesgm
        Kachesgm 6 March 2022 00: 13
        +4
        I advise you to watch the VO telegram channel. There it becomes clear that all this is reality. Which is pretty damn...
  17. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 5 March 2022 21: 31
    +17
    And no one pays attention that our area of ​​Lviv is not being touched? But there are airfields there!
    1. Ivan is not indifferent
      Ivan is not indifferent 5 March 2022 21: 58
      -1
      this airfield is used by our sworn partners, apparently we are afraid of hooking one of them. It will get worse
    2. Stone
      Stone 5 March 2022 22: 06
      +5
      Also drew attention to this. I assumed that ours would constantly bomb the military infrastructure there. It feels like there are some agreements on these territories.
      1. CYM
        CYM 6 March 2022 00: 26
        +4
        It feels like there are some agreements on these territories
        I have had this suspicion since the first day of the operation. And the military infrastructure in the west is practically not touched, and convoys with weapons and fuel for the Armed Forces of Ukraine arrive calmly. And here, behind the scenes of the negotiations, representatives of the oligarchs from both sides are rubbing. All in all, this is worrying.
  18. Force
    Force 5 March 2022 21: 50
    0
    It is strange that there is not a single video from the Zhytomyr region .... request
    1. Ivan is not indifferent
      Ivan is not indifferent 5 March 2022 22: 04
      0
      what could be the video? if the facts of the downing took place, then the Su-27 fell into the territories controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and they will not lay out their losses
      1. Force
        Force 5 March 2022 22: 28
        +2
        The very moment of the fall of the wreckage, the parachute domes would have been removed and laid out anyway, you can figure out whose horseradish is from the ground.
        In addition, most of the time they are posted by civilians.
        Although .... it seems that the weather there was complete d ...., and perhaps for this reason there are no vids. sad
    2. Dali
      Dali 5 March 2022 22: 08
      -7
      Quote: Vigore
      It is strange that there is not a single video from the Zhytomyr region ....

      It has been said more than once that there will be no video yet ... and ... ours are fighting there, and not taking selfies, no matter how it is before that ... and it is still forbidden to shoot and not because there is nothing to be proud of !! !
  19. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 5 March 2022 21: 57
    +9
    In an air battle in the Zhytomyr region, four Su-27 aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were shot down and one Su-25 was shot down by air defense systems in the Nizhyn region. Also, the air defense forces destroyed the Mi-8 helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force and the Bayraktar TB2 unmanned aerial vehicle.


    At least some confirmation would be shown, debris on the ground for example. And so even I do not believe, and even the enemy, all the more, will not believe in it. It can be said that 10 Su-27s were shot down and 30 Bayraktars.
    1. Airdefence_107
      Airdefence_107 5 March 2022 22: 18
      0
      Does the enemy strongly show the wreckage of all "39 aircraft and 40 helicopters"? In this case, the wreckage is most likely in the territory under their control. So let's wait for the video from the locals.
    2. Dali
      Dali 5 March 2022 22: 26
      -13
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      At least some confirmation would be shown, debris on the ground for example. And so even I do not believe, and even the enemy, all the more, will not believe in it. It can be said that 10 Su-27s were shot down and 30 Bayraktars.

      The enemy does not believe ... laughing am
      Pour weapons into the ranks of the enemy and believe it at the most reluctant ... laughing am
  20. svoit
    svoit 5 March 2022 22: 03
    +1
    Quote: NSV
    Then our entire Ukrainian aviation was besieged, now it turns out that it’s not ?!

    Ours are still weakly using the A-50 (and other scouts too), although 2-3 would be enough, and I haven’t heard anything that our planes and helicopters would have already been relocated to the territory of Ukraine. Probably there is no convenient airfield yet. Of course, everything is unknown, but the use of our videoconferencing is more than limited.
  21. Charik
    Charik 5 March 2022 22: 04
    +4
    they beat and beat air defense, beat and beat airfields, and? Su30-34 Mi8, they killed the commander of Sparta (God rest him), the main Nazi scum comes to Kharkov, gives orders, some negotiations with fascist drug addicts
  22. Shahno
    Shahno 5 March 2022 22: 10
    +4
    I didn’t understand, 4 Su 27. The Ministry of Defense stated: the Nazis were destroyed, and Azov was intact in Mariupol, the sky was closed, and the Su 27 was in the sky, the air defense was destroyed, the Su24 was shot down.
    1. Charik
      Charik 6 March 2022 01: 32
      +1
      Su 34, as they say, and if the photo is not a hoax, one pilot died (God accept his soul), the second is captured
  23. rMN
    rMN 5 March 2022 22: 13
    0
    In Volnovakha, the commander of a separate reconnaissance battalion "Sparta" of the Guard, Colonel Vladimir Zhoga, call sign Vokha, died. This was announced by the head of the DPR Denis Pushilin, the correspondent of Donbass Today reports.
    "He was mortally wounded, ensuring the exit of civilians from this settlement. Sparta scouts covered the evacuation of civilians, mainly women and children. The Nazis opened fire on them," said the head of the DPR.
    1. Dali
      Dali 5 March 2022 22: 30
      +13
      Quote: Rmn
      In Volnovakha, the commander of a separate reconnaissance battalion "Sparta" of the guard, Colonel Vladimir Zhoga, call sign Vokha, died.

      He died when he covered the exit of civilians from Bandera ...
      Eternal memory of the Guard Colonel Vladimir Zhoga!!!
    2. rMN
      rMN 5 March 2022 23: 12
      +8
      Vokha joined the militia from the very beginning of the conflict in Donbass. Then he was only 20 years old. Almost immediately he joined the Sparta battalion under the command of Arsen Pavlov, better known under the call sign Motorola.

      It was the Sparta fighters who hoisted the flag of the DPR over the old terminal of the Donetsk airport and later participated in its liberation. Ilovaisk, Uglegorsk, Shakhtersk, Shirokino, Dokuchaevsk - this is only a small part of the settlements that Vokha selflessly recaptured from the Ukrainian army and national battalions.

      He was appointed commander of Sparta after the death of Motorola, who was killed in a terrorist attack in his own home. Vladimir Zhoga promised to save the battalion and was faithful to his colleagues until death.

      It is a pity that he will not see the end of the war and the complete liberation of the Donetsk People's Republic. But we know that somewhere up there he will rejoice at the common victory! Rest in peace, Hero!
  24. Airdefence_107
    Airdefence_107 5 March 2022 22: 14
    +8
    On the first day, it was necessary to walk along the runway of the main military airfields. There are not so many of them anymore. Moreover, it is unlikely that we will need all of them for the landing. While waiting for the landing at a number of air bases, they themselves threw scrap metal on the take-off.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 March 2022 00: 05
      +2
      This is because the operations were concocted in a day - that’s the result of the reconnaissance is worthless, since there are no normal UAVs in the mass as well as drums.
      1. Airdefence_107
        Airdefence_107 6 March 2022 00: 11
        +4
        I don't think in a day. They tried to adjust the economy under the sanctions for more than one year, they pulled together ground forces for at least a year (since February 2021). So we have been preparing for a long time, but we are not immune from miscalculations. Hope they fix it...
      2. Third district
        Third district 6 March 2022 01: 36
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        This is because the operations were concocted in a day - that’s the result of the reconnaissance is worthless, since there are no normal UAVs in the mass as well as drums.

        I don’t recognize Vadim at all237. If earlier there was rhetoric that we would throw hats on everyone, now it turns out that everything is gone.
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 6 March 2022 01: 38
          -4
          Quote: Third District
          before there was rhetoric that we would throw hats on everyone, now it turns out that everything is gone

          The child was frightened belay request laughing
        2. Dikson
          Dikson 6 March 2022 08: 33
          +2
          There are a lot of such heroes here .. like a well-known substance behind a village bath ..
        3. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 6 March 2022 08: 58
          +2
          Quote: Third District
          I don’t recognize Vadim at all237. If earlier there was rhetoric that we would throw hats on everyone, now it turns out that everything is gone

          Because when you turn on your brains, the world is seen in a completely different light. So you turn on your brains and think about how you can conquer a country with 40 million people with the full support of the West
  25. Nord11
    Nord11 5 March 2022 22: 19
    -1
    In basements smelling of urine and garlic, Kiev historians write a chronicle for future generations about their unimaginable victory on all fronts..
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 5 March 2022 22: 20
    +5
    Russian Aerospace Forces shot down four Ukrainian Su-27 fighters near Zhytomyr
    . The fog of war or just utter dregs ... even then, far from being able to find out everything for sure.
  27. vl903
    vl903 5 March 2022 22: 29
    +1
    but where to write when you see such a channel in a telegram where Belarusian bulks pour every five minutes every takeoff of an airplane or a convoy that has passed ours - https://t.me/Hajun_BY who should deal with them?
    1. Dali
      Dali 5 March 2022 22: 38
      0
      Quote: vl903
      but where to write when you see such a channel in a telegram where Belarusians pile up every five minutes every takeoff of an airplane or a convoy that has passed by ours

      You only need to send a link to these posts to the relevant authorities ... as they say in war as in war !!!
      1. vl903
        vl903 5 March 2022 22: 42
        -1
        is there a mail to send?
        1. Dali
          Dali 5 March 2022 22: 58
          +3
          Quote: vl903
          is there a mail to send?

          Open the websites of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Republic of Belarus. FSB of the Russian Federation, KGB of the Republic of Belarus ... everything is there.
  28. meandr51
    meandr51 5 March 2022 22: 36
    +5
    I remembered how back in about 2000 the American game "Flanker (Su-27)", made as a simulator, was released. So there, then, as a scenario, there was a conflict between Russia, Ukraine and Turkey. Everything was in advance
    planned.
  29. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 5 March 2022 22: 55
    +2
    Success is only fake. Although can we consider Lozovoy's displacement of 300 km a success?
  30. silver_roman
    silver_roman 5 March 2022 23: 01
    +4
    I heard that it was the Su-25 VKS that was shot down near Nizhyn. I myself come from Nizhyn, there are relatives. They say that tanks go all over the city. Nobody took Nizhyn. Who the hell to believe....
  31. bessonov932
    bessonov932 5 March 2022 23: 18
    +7
    Comrades! I come here for the sole purpose - to hear the opinion of experienced people. I hold my humble opinion of a sergeant from the times of Marshal Ustinov (and there cannot be one). Please - explain, who is knowledgeable - why is IT still flying? This is not MANPADS, not RS. A member's plane needs a cloud of nishtyakov to take off. Satellites - no? Intelligence - xs?
  32. Bayun
    Bayun 5 March 2022 23: 24
    0
    But there are no rock hangars in the Carpathians, as in the Far East? Or hangars, like decks on aircraft carriers, when a plane appears from under the runway ... The Ukrainians are "well done", they got their bearings and recorded "-4" in Russian propaganda.
    1. Vavilov
      Vavilov 6 March 2022 00: 06
      0
      how not? there are, just like that, the border also passes there, the whole complex of the times of the USSR
  33. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 5 March 2022 23: 53
    +1
    I wish I could see more video confirmation, but it’s not clear who to believe
  34. Outsider
    Outsider 6 March 2022 00: 04
    +1
    Quote: Santa Fe
    Su-34 is a bomber, it does not operate at low altitudes.

    Who doesn't give it to him? The F-15E can operate from altitudes up to By the age of 30 meters! For over 30 years now!
    http://pentagonus.ru/publ/18-1-0-261
    The LANTIRN system provides flight at night over hilly terrain at an altitude of 70 m (at a speed of 900 km / h), and over flat terrain - 30 m.
  35. ToS
    ToS 6 March 2022 00: 12
    -5
    And here are the same disguised pilots from a neighboring state, about whom there was already a warning, I hope this will be a lesson for them.
  36. Outsider
    Outsider 6 March 2022 00: 12
    +2
    Quote: svoit
    Quote: NSV
    Then our entire Ukrainian aviation was besieged, now it turns out that it’s not ?!

    Ours are still weakly using the A-50 (and other scouts too), although 2-3 would be enough, and I haven’t heard anything that our planes and helicopters would have already been relocated to the territory of Ukraine. Probably there is no convenient airfield yet. Of course, everything is unknown but the use of our videoconferencing is more than limited.

    - For those who did not know, and even forgot: The air-ground operation "Desert Storm" in Iraq-91 took 42 days in time, of which 38 days were taken by the actual air operation, and only then 4 days - ground. It was 31 years ago. Was it time to "summarize best practices"?
    1. dnestr74
      dnestr74 6 March 2022 00: 17
      0
      great, they bombed for 34 days, and then they went into empty Kuwait ...
      what about the second operation?
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 6 March 2022 00: 28
        -2
        - Not only to Kuwait, but also to Iraq.
        what about the second operation?

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%A1%D0%A8%D0%90_%D0%B8_%D0%B8%D1%85_%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%8E%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%B2_%D0%98%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA_(2003)
    2. Dikson
      Dikson 6 March 2022 08: 35
      +1
      .. "we will go the other way" .. (c) Vladimir Ilyich
  37. Outsider
    Outsider 6 March 2022 00: 14
    +2
    Quote: Ivan the Indifferent
    killed by not suppressing air defense and driving 34s to Stingers

    - And how are you going to suppress the "Stingers"? wink THAN?
    1. Alexey G
      Alexey G 6 March 2022 01: 47
      -4
      Throw tanks and infantry to Lvov, Ivano-Frankivsk and Chernivtsi!
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 6 March 2022 02: 02
        +1
        - There are not enough tanks, infantry, air cover for them, and most importantly - means of support: the convoys are not keeping up ...
        1. Alexey G
          Alexey G 6 March 2022 02: 04
          -8
          We still haven't used half of our funds there! Bring in the reserves! This issue is already urgent and I'm sure it will be resolved soon!
          1. Outsider
            Outsider 6 March 2022 02: 05
            +1
            - Of course they will. Otherwise, you will have to use nuclear weapons ...
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 6 March 2022 09: 02
            0
            Quote: Alexey G
            Bring in the reserves!

            Well, yes, they will be transferred from the Far East. If anyone does not know, then the entire size of the Russian army is 1 million people. This includes cooks.
          3. Alexey G
            Alexey G 7 March 2022 10: 52
            0
            And am I wrong about this???
  38. Outsider
    Outsider 6 March 2022 00: 21
    +1
    Quote: Repellent
    Quote: Sanguinius
    the Ministry of Defense reports to us about gaining air supremacy, and in parallel, publishes data on the LOSSES of the Ukrainian Air Force ... a paradox!

    No paradox. Dominance in the air does not negate the fact that the enemy has some kind of aircraft.

    - Dominance in the air - this is a state of affairs when enemy aircraft do not fly, do not shoot, do not shoot down. He sits, huddled in the cracks and does not show his nose.
    1. Repellent
      Repellent 6 March 2022 00: 26
      -2
      Quote: Outsider
      - Dominance in the air - this is a state of affairs when enemy aircraft do not fly, do not shoot, do not shoot down. He sits, huddled in the cracks and does not show his nose

      This is bullshit, sorry.

      Air supremacy - the decisive air superiority of one of the belligerents in the airspace in the theater of operations

      At the same time, the enemy may have aviation, it can fly and even, believe it or not, shoot. Leave already am
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 6 March 2022 01: 02
        +5
        In the USSR and the Russian Federation, the concept of air supremacy, as a rule, is not divided into any varieties.

        In the Armed Forces of the United States, NATO countries and other states that build their army on the model of the armies of NATO countries, two related concepts are distinguished - air superiority (air superiority) as a sine qua non, a necessary and sufficient condition, and air supremacy (total air superiority, air supremacy) as a desirable condition for achieving victory over the enemy.
        .........................
        Russian aviation has no air supremacy in the Ukrainian sky. Superiority is.
    2. dnestr74
      dnestr74 6 March 2022 00: 45
      0
      Well, not so much ... If we take the Second World War ... If we drive the enemy into the Stone Age, as in Iraq. And Libya, then yes
    3. bk316
      bk316 6 March 2022 01: 04
      -6
      Air supremacy is such a state of affairs when enemy aircraft do not fly, do not shoot, do not shoot down.

      You are a sleeping sharovarnik, if you already started such an avatar, read something like Pokryshkin or Savitsky, or if your Bandera religion does not allow, then NATO standards. Air superiority is when the existing enemy forces do not guarantee the execution of an order. That is, for example, they gave the task to the Luftwaffe to bomb the crossing, but they couldn’t, or to cover the Reichstag, but there was nothing. At the same time, losses on both sides are possible even after capitulation. In general, teach materiel young Bandera.
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 6 March 2022 01: 15
        +13
        - I repeat for the Great Russians: at the Russian Air Force over Ukraine air superiority have but air supremacy no.
        learn materiel young Bandera

        - That's all for you, the sick, Bandera seem, behind every curtain! lol Yes, even young ones! wink
        Me 71 a year, I am a former Russian military pilot, 1st class, reserve lieutenant colonel ... smile And I didn’t stand against your Bandera people in any way ... lol
        Listen to your elders, couch hamster...
  39. Outsider
    Outsider 6 March 2022 00: 33
    -3
    Quote: vs45
    They killed both the pilot - the hero of the Syrian company and the plane .... I hope the navigator will survive in captivity .... Well, you can’t lose such planes !!!!

    - Why not"? Su-34 - an aircraft of the level of the 70s of the twentieth century ...
    1. bk316
      bk316 6 March 2022 00: 55
      -3
      Su-34 - aircraft level of the 70s of the XX

      what about the 70s then write immediately 30s am
      Oh, in vain shoulder straps with skulls were canceled ...
      1. Outsider
        Outsider 6 March 2022 00: 58
        +1
        - Of course, the 70s.
        Fundamentally, it differs from the Su-27 only in that it also has a toilet and a storage room. The backward Yankees do not have toilets in the fighters ...
        1. dnestr74
          dnestr74 6 March 2022 01: 07
          -5
          You are sick, however ... SU-34 is not a fighter ... You need to be banned
          1. Outsider
            Outsider 6 March 2022 01: 19
            +5
            - Of course not. He is a front-line bomber, like the Su-24. But he has a toilet - obviously an extra device. The Yankees are laughing ... It would be better if they put an additional tank ...
            1. Charik
              Charik 6 March 2022 01: 37
              -3
              internal fuel is more than that of a mattress with hanging
              1. Outsider
                Outsider 6 March 2022 01: 44
                +2
                - Su-34 is generally an "extra" aircraft. Su-30SM would be quite enough. Like the Americans F-15E - and no one resumes production of the F-111.
                Waste of money...
        2. bk316
          bk316 6 March 2022 01: 07
          -3
          nothing boy that 27 was adopted in the 80s and not the 70s
          1. Outsider
            Outsider 6 March 2022 01: 28
            +2
            http://airwar.ru/enc/fighter/su27.html
            ...Finally, under the pressure of the ministry, and the beginning November 1971, XNUMX P.O. Sukhoi ordered to begin the development of an advance project for a promising front-line fighter, which received the factory code T-10 and the then still secret name Su-27.

            It was decided to base the technical proposal on the first version of the appearance of the aircraft, prepared for (February November 1970, XNUMX in the project department of the OKB. led by Oleg Sergeevich Samoilovich. The first sketches of the layout of the new fighter were made in the Design Bureau of P. O. Sukhoi in the fall. 1969 g. At first, only one person was involved in this - the designer of the project department, Vladimir Ivanovich Antonov. Based on the studies of V.I.Antonov in the project department, the first version of the layout of the T-10 was prepared. Its direct authors were O.S. Samoilovich, V. Iantonov and the head of the team of the project department VANikolaenko ...
            1. bk316
              bk316 9 March 2022 13: 20
              -1
              AND? You can copy-paste. When was it put into service?
  40. ole1
    ole1 6 March 2022 01: 21
    -3
    Quote: Vadim237
    Unfortunately, the loss of the Su 30SM near Chernigov is true.


    where is the infa about su 30 cm? there was a su 34 bomber ... what's the point of bombing a su 30 at low altitude when there are 34 and 25s
  41. bbss
    bbss 6 March 2022 01: 28
    -2
    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
    wow+th

    Don't get lost...
  42. Alexey G
    Alexey G 6 March 2022 01: 44
    -2
    Where are the planes from? Beeches? Yes, from where the Strigers and Javelins come from !!! From Western Europe! They also promised to give aircraft to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and then officially refused. We decided to give quietly! Maybe they take off from Romania or Poland! Or transported to Ukraine on the quiet! Maybe both! There is only one conclusion and I have already done it despite the minuses to me! It is necessary to close the border of Ukraine with Poland and Romania! Move large forces from Belarus and from the south of Ukraine, cutting off Lvov, Ivano-Frankivsk and Chernivtsi! Only then will the supply problem be closed! The destruction of the Zhytomyr warehouse is not a panacea!
    1. Alexey G
      Alexey G 7 March 2022 10: 53
      -1
      As I understand it, my words are very frightening of the Anglo-Saxons, so cons!
  43. Normann
    Normann 6 March 2022 02: 53
    -1
    And how many submarines lost?
  44. Osipov9391
    Osipov9391 6 March 2022 03: 42
    +5
    Unfortunately, according to our losses, the truth is Su-30SM from Crimea (MA, pilots in captivity) and Su-34 (VKS, one died, the other was captured).
    The one that burned down near Nikolaev is the Su-30SM, the one that fell on the houses near Chernigov is the Su-34.
    Helicopters were also lost and the Su-25SM attack aircraft.
    And yes, before these Su-34 was lost near Kiev. The pilots are dead.
    I will not upload photos and videos - the Internet is littered with them.

    PS

    Ukraine does not have a single radar field and never did. But "Buki" mobile systems and hiding in the woods. Until they radiate, they are very difficult to find.
    And let's add that in Poland and Romania around the clock there are 3-4 American electronic intelligence aircraft - all information is collected and transmitted to Ukrainian headquarters.
    AWACS is also attracted in Romania.
    1. MrFYGY
      MrFYGY 6 March 2022 04: 45
      +6
      This is the question of "complete air supremacy."
      Guys die only because of someone's savings.
      1. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 6 March 2022 14: 49
        +1
        We just need strike drones, strategic reconnaissance drones, specialized electronic warfare aircraft and modern Su-39 attack aircraft with MANPADS protection.
        There is none of this - because the Su-30SM from the Crimea was sent for reconnaissance where it fell under the Buk missiles.
  45. Div Divich
    Div Divich 6 March 2022 04: 09
    -1
    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
    Yes, very strange. It seems that more than once they said that the Air Force and airfields of Ukraine were destroyed.

    I watched a video with a captured pilot of Ukraine, he said that some of the aircraft managed to overtake to other airfields. So they still have hidden planes, but not enough.
  46. Dikson
    Dikson 6 March 2022 05: 23
    +1
    Today is clearly a bad day. And not only for the Ukrainian Air Force...
  47. astra wild2
    astra wild2 6 March 2022 05: 29
    0
    39, why so few? Could you add 0 0 as well? 2 ships, but the names: "Hetman Sahaidachny" and "Prince Vladimir"?
  48. riwas
    riwas 6 March 2022 07: 59
    -1
    Russian Aerospace Forces shot down four Ukrainian Su-27 fighters near Zhytomyr

    Less and less remains, apparently they were hiding at civilian airfields.
  49. stels_07
    stels_07 6 March 2022 10: 22
    0
    Is it possible that the Aerospace Forces, knowing the algorithms of the operation of even Soviet air defense systems, cannot suppress them with Reb means?
    1. Outsider
      Outsider 6 March 2022 11: 02
      +4
      - This is much more difficult than you think: for high-quality suppression of air defense radars the technological level of electronic warfare stations should be a cut above that of suppressed radars. And they are the same level. Therefore, there is no question of qualitative suppression. Alas and ah...
      1. stels_07
        stels_07 6 March 2022 11: 22
        -1
        For six months they laughed at Donald Cook, but they can’t with the Soviet radar?
        1. Outsider
          Outsider 6 March 2022 11: 42
          +5
          - About "Donald Cook" - there was just a fairy tale for the younger group of kindergarten, not even just stupid and ridiculous, but simply illiterate to the point of absurdity. Even if the same Khibiny were on the Su-24, which flew over this very destroyer (they are installed on the Su-34, they never happened on the Su-24), and even if they were "turned on to the fullest" - on no one would "even sneeze" on a destroyer! laughing lol They are completely incomparable, not even like an Elephant and a Pug, but like an Elephant and a mouse ... I say this as a former teacher of aviation electronic equipment, including electronic warfare equipment, of course.
          https://mostlymissiledefense.com/2012/08/03/ballistic-missile-defense-the-aegis-spy-1-radar-august-3-2012/
          detection range
          The only public numerical figure on Aegis detection range against a specific target (that I have seen) is that the SPY-1D “can track golf ball-sized targets at ranges in excess of 165 kilometers.” A golf ball-size (1.68 inches diameter) sphere corresponds to radar cross section of about 0.0025 m2 at 3.3 GHz. This statement was made in the context of the soon-to-be deployed SPY-1D(V) radar to detect mortar and artillery shell and small-caliber rockets against a clutter background, so presumably it applies to the D(V) version. Scaling to a radar cross section more typical of a ballistic missile warhead (0.03 m2 at 3.3 GHz) gives a range of at least 310 km.

          Of course, the S-300 air defense radars are much inferior to that AN / SPY-1D monster from the destroyer, but they are also quite difficult to suppress with the same Khibiny and Sorption. On the radars of these air defense systems, there are ways to tune out interference, so Russian pilots have no guarantees of confident suppression there.

          As for the "Stingers": there is a coordinator working not only in the IR range, but also in UV. Therefore, it is extremely problematic to take the Stinger away even with a massive shooting of squibs - the rocket will be guided in the UV range, and there are no squibs on it ... crying
          1. stels_07
            stels_07 6 March 2022 13: 10
            -1
            Igniters in the UV range need to be made, at first Azerbaijan sent unmanned An-2s to open air defense, don’t we have such targets?
            1. Outsider
              Outsider 6 March 2022 13: 17
              +1
              Igniters in the UV range must be done

              The laws of physics don't allow...
              At first, Azerbaijan sent An-2 unmanned vehicles to open air defense, do we have such targets?

              There are unmanned targets. But how well thought out is the whole mechanism for their use on the theater - xs ...
              1. Osipov9391
                Osipov9391 6 March 2022 18: 54
                0
                And what about the Dry Cargo IR interference generator that was used on the Su-39, what could it do at all?
                There is a healthy 5000 W lamp with a certain directionality.
                1. Outsider
                  Outsider 6 March 2022 21: 02
                  +2
                  - All these devices are not effective enough against the Stinger ...
  50. iouris
    iouris 6 March 2022 11: 11
    0
    The combat use of the Su-27, -30 ... against ground targets as attack aircraft can only be explained by extreme necessity, or ...
    It seems that elements of the enemy air force and air defense have been preserved, and the supply of Soviet equipment through Poland and Slovakia cannot be ruled out. This is a major oversight.
    1. Outsider
      Outsider 6 March 2022 11: 50
      +4
      The combat use of the Su-27, -30 ... against ground targets as attack aircraft can only be explained by extreme necessity, or ...

      - ... or by the fact that the great space power did not bother to mass-produce such trifles as "Bayraktar":
      1. iouris
        iouris 6 March 2022 12: 00
        0
        This is the result of corruption and the accelerated construction of a society of developed technological backwardness. The resources of the USSR and the money pumped out of the "post-Soviet space" went to the next facelift of the "Western civilization", to support overconsumption. And here it is again... They are after our natural resources and money. And they don't need people.
        1. Outsider
          Outsider 6 March 2022 12: 29
          +2
          They are after our natural resources and money.

          "They" - who is this? USA, EU and NATO?
          And they don't need people.

          - To whom "them"? USA, NATO and EU?
          People are not needed - whose? Residents of Russia? The USA and the EU definitely don't need them. And China doesn't need them. They must be needed by the leadership of Russia...