The former Ukrainian prime minister assessed the prospects for negotiations between Putin and Zelensky

Recently, the President of Ukraine made a statement about his readiness to discuss any issues with his Russian counterpart, including the status of Donbass and the rights of the Russian-speaking population of the country to use their native language. Former Ukrainian Prime Minister Mykola Azarov assessed the prospects for such negotiations between Putin and Zelensky.

The agency reports RIA News.

Azarov thinks that it makes no sense to hold a meeting of the heads of the two states, since it will not be productive. He believes that it is quite possible to reach any agreements with the Kiev authorities, but there are doubts about their implementation. The fact is that Zelensky has no real levers of influence on the Ukrainian nationalist armed formations, which may refuse to comply with his orders.

Negotiate with those people who have real power, are able to make sane decisions, are able to implement them

- says the ex-premier.

Azarov sees the point for Moscow to negotiate only with those people who have real tools to implement the agreements reached.

Despite this, the former Ukrainian high-ranking official welcomes any negotiations that give even the slightest chance to alleviate the situation of the people of Ukraine. In particular, he leaves no hope that the decision to create humanitarian corridors for the evacuation of civilians from cities surrounded by Russian troops, adopted at a meeting of delegations from Moscow and Kyiv in Belarus, will be implemented.

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[YOUR]

These negotiations are strange. And from our side and from their side, not even third parties. What can they agree on? Especially if Peskov said that there was no talk of signing any documents.

[samarin1969]

Quote: YOUR

and from their side not even third parties

???.... Yes, there is Arakhamia and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, we have a deputy. Minister of Defense ... sort of like "people of power."

[Egoza]

Quote: samarin1969

???.... Yes, there is Arakhamia and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, we have a deputy. Minister of Defense ... sort of like "people of power."

In Russia, maybe "people of power", in Ukraine - hostage representatives pretending that power exists. No one will follow her orders. At this point, it is necessary to conduct negotiations with each regiment, detachment. With bandits - it is unlikely to succeed. Unless they promise to send them to Poland without the right to return.

[Leonidych]

That's for sure. And then negotiations should be carried out exclusively on the surrender of weapons.

[NIKN]

with those people who have real tools for the implementation of the agreements reached.

Well, unfortunately, there are no representatives of the United States and NATO there.
There really is no one to negotiate with, but it’s also impossible not to talk, if at least one exit corridor from the cities starts to work, the lives of at least a few people are saved, then we can assume that everything is not in vain, moreover, we can even assume that the goal of the negotiations has been achieved in the main .

[Zorro21]

Quote: YOUR

What can they agree on?

With the terrorists in Syria, it was possible to agree on corridors for the withdrawal of the civilian population. But there were mostly mercenaries, people just had to give all the money that the terrorists would release. With the Nazis, of course, it will be more difficult. But they also have control.

[YOUR]

Negotiated directly with the leaders in the city or region.

[Flooding]

Quote: YOUR

And from our side and from their side, not even third parties

in order to convey your conditions to the Ukrainian side, it is enough for Russia to send a courier.
Russia has no room for bargaining.
the Ukrainian authorities do not have the competence to bargain.

the rest is just to maintain status.

[prior]

Zelensky is a Ksyusha Sobchak level negotiator.
Even Putin's driver has nothing to talk about with him.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: prior

Zelensky is a Ksyusha Sobchak level negotiator.
Even Putin's driver has nothing to talk about with him.

Along the way, all Zelensky’s power today is limited by the space of the bunker in which he sits out, and then there are doubts about his competence as a president and commander-in-chief, since a bunker term in fact can be just detention, so that this scarecrow is not lost on open spaces of neighboring countries and did not break off the money laundering scheme. Formally, it is for him that mattresses and their accomplices are now allocating some amounts in millions, which almost certainly go in reverse and are returned to certain groups of mattresses fed from the war on a shuttle basis. In Ukraine, the national bank probably only fixes the receipt of these babos and transfers them back, within a couple of three hours. There will be no Ze, there will be no "guarantor" under which to allocate money. A dummy with which there is nothing to talk about at all.

[aszzz888]

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Quote: YOUR
And from our side and from their side, not even third parties

in order to convey your conditions to the Ukrainian side, it is enough for Russia to send a courier. ..

It would be enough for their level of diplomacy!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: YOUR

What can they agree on?

Only purely technical points: hum. corridors, exchange of prisoners, etc. But, judging by the throwing of the dill side, they are not even authorized to resolve such issues. As a result, it turns out that this event shows the following: the Russian Federation is ready for dialogue, but it would be with whom. And since there is no longer anyone to talk to, we move on - the tank biathlon team is not worth losing momentum on the headmistress.

[VSZMK]

Zelensky has no real levers of influence on Ukrainian nationalist armed groups

And no one in Ukraine has them. Therefore denazification.

[Ros 56]

Apparently there is some kind of multi-move, about which we know nothing. And the GDP has all the moves planned in advance.

[kytx]

What a multitasker!
Everything was laid out clearly. Putin said that there is nothing to talk about with a clown. The government said the Armed Forces of Ukraine take power, we are ready to negotiate with you.
It's simple.

[Ros 56]

Well, well, good luck with your simplicity.

[Egoza]

Quote: Ros 56

Apparently there is some kind of multi-move, about which we know nothing. And the GDP has all the moves planned in advance.

I think that this is only for the picture in the West. "We offered negotiations - they failed (didn't come, didn't accept, etc.)" And let the "world community" bite it.

[Ros 56]

Let's wait and see, because the issue with Ukraine is very multitasking and not everything can be discussed openly.

[Kaufman]

not a bad candidate for the new presidents of Ukraine.

[Ros 56]

On this topic, all the disassembly is ahead.

[Egoza]

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not a bad candidate for the new presidents of Ukraine.

Azarov is a big smart girl! But he can't be president. But the Prime Minister - yes! All the same, even during the time of Yanukovych, he "pulled out" the economy. Probably, when restoring the Ruins, his experience and knowledge will be very useful.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

Azarov is a big smart girl! But he can't be president. But the prime minister - yes!

The United States will not allow smart people to be placed in Ukraine, and he himself will not go to the presidency. He does not want to be an outcast in his country, he ate for premiership.

[Egoza]

Quote: tihonmarine

Smart people in the US will not be allowed to bet in Ukraine

Do you think that the United States will still set conditions for whom to set, who not?

Quote: tihonmarine

he ate for premiership.

It's true! But he is a man of the old, Soviet school. Maybe, if they really ask, he will take on this difficult task of "dragging a hippopotamus out of the swamp" in the sense of a ruined economy. At least at first.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

Maybe, if they really ask, he will take on this difficult task of "dragging a hippopotamus out of the swamp" in the sense of a ruined economy. At least at first.

At first, he might agree. But how much will it cost him nerves and years of life.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: tihonmarine

Smart people in the US will not be allowed to bet in Ukraine

But now no one will ask them, because who are they?

[prior]

Yes. Azarov is good.
But, to restore the Ruin?! I don't think he will agree.
It's a complete hemorrhoid.
Either a desperate adventurer or a sick optimist will agree to this.

[Egoza]

Quote: prior

or a sick optimist.

"But you are a SOVIET MAN!" - it seems that the commissioner A. Meresyev said so in the book. (I know that Maresyev is correct, but here in the text)

[Kaufman]

The business executive will be needed, he will not have to determine the policy)

[Thrifty]

In general, a complete zero in politics! I wouldn’t open my mouth! Who fed and nurtured the Nazis, when he was prime minister?

[Genry]

Quote: Thrifty

In general, a complete zero in politics!

He was the first to be kicked out of the Yanukvich government. He clearly set tasks to normalize the situation.

Quote: Thrifty

Who fed and nurtured the Nazis when he was prime minister?

Do you have facts? You are tormented to swallow dust!

Quote: Thrifty

Mouth would not open!

Yes, you are exactly talking about yourself!

Quote: Thrifty

Living political corpse, unnecessary used!

You are for sure, since the birth of a zombie, if so about Azarov.

[Thrifty]

Henry, during the premiership of your god Azarov, two of my former colleagues left Kyiv for Russia forever. He is all so smart and private, well, exactly like you, but in fact, a complete disregard for the opening of all sorts of "circles" and sections where the Nazis gathered en masse. According to those who left, nationalism was gaining strength literally before our eyes! People didn’t want to learn the Ukrainian language even then, and they abandoned Ukrainian citizenship forever! And, by the way, look in the mirror, there you will definitely see zombies!

[Genry]

You forget that Azarov was not the president, but only the prime minister. He only had economic questions. The military department, security, education, foreign relations - were separate from him, since the powers were completely divided and they were squandered in favor of the opposition by Yanukovych, on the advice of his "adviser" Anna German. It was complete idiocy, but there is no need to drag Azarov here.

[Revolver]

What's the point??? Country 404 is not negotiable. Minsk-2 was signed in 2015, and consisted of 13 points. How many of them were completed by the Ukrainian side? 0 [in words: zero, zero, zilch, nothing]. If Ukraine had fulfilled its obligations, there would have been no need for Operation Z. Well, the truth would not have been the Ukraine that we know, but there would have been something more reasonably arranged.

[S_Baykala]

Look at the drunk (or stoned) Zelensky. What is on the sober mind, the drunk on the tongue. Suddenly switched to Russian: apparently, drunken brains are not able to communicate in a non-native language.
Then (not verbatim): it is impossible to speak with them (the negotiating group of the Russian Federation) - they know the answers to all our questions in advance. Complains. They are not able to understand that the simplest organisms with their wishes and questions have already calculated a dozen moves ahead.
Azarov previously gave the impression of being the most sane of the current caudles at that time.

[tihonmarine]

Negotiate with those people who have real power, are able to make sane decisions, are able to implement them

There is no sense in such negotiations, but they are held to reassure the West - "we are doing everything democratically with a government recognized by the world community." Although everyone understands that this government is an ordinary empty shell.

[rotfuks]

To negotiate with a clown is to stoop to the level of a clown. It's like drinking a beer with it down.

[sen]

The former Ukrainian prime minister assessed the prospects for negotiations between Putin and Zelensky

The meaning of these negotiations was not before and even more so now. Putin needs to negotiate with a new Ukrainian leadership that is not hostile.

[Kuzmitsky]

There is no leadership in Ukraine now - neither good nor bad. The President and the government do not own the situation and no longer have the levers of control.

And negotiations are needed only so that we are not reproached for refusing to negotiate.

[Shahno]

Are you sure? There, a land group of 150 thousand will not advance 100 km in any way. 2 weeks already.

[Kuzmitsky]

I did not write about troops and groups. I'm talking about the fact that the current Ukrainian leadership no longer has power over either the army or anything else in the country. The Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions, quite possibly, act autonomously.

I don’t want to discuss “we didn’t move 100 kilometers in two weeks”. Just take a map and measure the distance between the battlefields and the nearest sections of the border. This is not difficult.

[Div Divich]

Azarov, like Yanukovych, are weak politicians, for me they are not an authority after 2014. How waveless you need to be in order to agree to everything, they will spar, and so they derailed Ukraine.

Judging by his words, he is not far-sighted.

Let him write memoirs, and not give advice on how to derail Ukraine once again ...