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The Deputy Prime Minister named the likely duration of the crisis period in the country

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The Russian Cabinet of Ministers gave their forecasts regarding the duration of the crisis period in the domestic economy. Yury Borisov, deputy chairman of the government for the defense industry (defense-industrial complex), shares his thoughts on this matter.


In the interview "Izvestia" the Deputy Prime Minister said that the Russian industry is facing a serious challenge. However, the measures taken by the Cabinet are effective when using the available budget funds.

According to Yuri Borisov, the crisis period in the Russian Federation, as he hopes, can last from 3 to 5 months.

Borisov noted that in order to overcome the crisis, work is underway to establish tax incentives for the industrial sector, increase the share of advance payments within the framework of budget obligations.

For backbone enterprises, a set of measures has been developed with a reduction in the rate.

The developed package of measures, as noted by the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, will allow a whole group of industries to painlessly go through a period of instability.

Special support from the state goes in the direction of the IT industry - domestic programmers, companies and enterprises engaged in the creation of microelectronics. According to Yuri Borisov, under the conditions of sanctions, it is necessary to continue to solve ambitious tasks, which will make it possible to find a way to solve the problem of sanctions pressure in the form of the refusal of certain foreign companies to supply components to the Russian market.
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  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 06: 51
    +33
    An optimist though...
    In reality, it will take years to get out of what our economic block under the government has created. But it all depends on the timing of the end of the military operation.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 5 March 2022 06: 55
      0
      I never trusted this official. He always drives a blizzard.
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 5 March 2022 09: 56
        -8
        And I agree with Mr. Borisov. This whole story will be over by summer. That's just how? And what? Regardless of the outcome of the special operation?
        I will not dwell on the fall into the abyss of the technological sector of the Russian economy (on the stagnation of the automotive industry, air travel, agriculture, the space industry, the approaching total shortage of household appliances, etc.). This is a separate topic, and listing the main points will take a lot of time and space.
        But let's just go over the top - according to the forecasts of world analytical agencies that assess the state of the Russian economy.
        The international rating agency Fitch has downgraded Russia's long-term issuer default rating in foreign currency from "BBB" to "B" with a negative outlook. "B" at the last step of the investment grade. In the group with this level of ratings, among others: India, Indonesia, Turkey, Uruguay, South Africa.
        The international agency Moody's downgraded Russia's rating to "B3". "B3" is the last step, reflecting the "highly speculative" degree of the issuer's credit risk, and below which the agency has a "Caa" rating - "significant risk, the issuer is in a difficult position."
        The international rating agency S&P dropped Russia's rating from BB+ to CCC - less than a week after the last downgrade. The latest infa - S&P Global Ratings downgraded the credit rating of the Russian Federation in foreign currency to CCC-. The next level D will mean default.
        Of course, there is no faith in bourgeois voices. They slander, damned, the beautiful Russian reality.
        But let's take a closer look at what's going on. What does the forced withdrawal of currency from exporters mean? About gold trading within the country without VAT? About the 30% commission on foreign exchange transactions? About the ban on exporting more than 10000 rotten bucks abroad?
        Only about one thing - about the agony in the financial sector. And about feverish throwing in search of a way out. Which is not.
        For you can patch Trishkin's caftan and plug a hole in the dam with your finger. But only for a limited time. Just before summer.
        By the way, from Monday we are preparing for a new package of sanctions. Even more useful.
        1. Mazam
          Mazam 5 March 2022 15: 49
          -2
          And who are the judges? These agencies are from the same "lovers of Russia." There is nothing to be surprised at.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 5 March 2022 16: 22
            0
            So judge for yourself.
            Who is preventing you from assessing the situation yourself?
            Take a closer look at the ruble exchange rate (just add another 30%, this will be the real exchange rate). To the queues in the exchangers. To what a frantic gallop business from Russia flees. To mortgage rates and loan rates. Ask yourself - with what fright did the government put its hand in the NWF (pensioners do not lose heart) after a blow in the stomach at the gold reserves?
            Oh well, something will clear up.
            1. bayard
              bayard 6 March 2022 03: 43
              +5
              Quote: Cosm22
              Ask yourself - with what fright did the government put its hand in the NWF (pensioners do not lose heart) after a blow in the stomach at the gold reserves?

              But is it really bad if the NWF and the ZRV go to invest (and lend) their own business? Another thing is the role of the Central Bank and Madame Broshkina personally in raising the discount rate. This is a direct sabotage, and for this it is necessary to plant for life. The Central Bank for the Russian Federation today is the main enemy, which has imposed the most disastrous sanctions, because now this new rate will be included in the cost of goods by enterprises and will accelerate inflation ... as if not to the state of "hyper".
              On the other hand, the shutdown of SWIFT, the arrest of capital and assets of the Russian Federation and its citizens abroad gives a reason to get rid of the main evil of our economy - the Central Bank as a foreign agent.
              The Central Bank must be abolished.
              And the Russian Federation should return to a sovereign financial system, where the ruble is a sovereign investment currency issued by the Treasury for lending to the economy and ensuring payment turnover in the country. Domonetization of the economy to the level of 100%, as it should be in a normal country and economy, and not 40%, as it is now.
              And switch to foreign trade for rubles and national currencies of partner countries through currency swaps. Putin has long been striving for this , but previous attempts have largely failed . So today there is simply no other way and way to trade.
              And this is good !
              The Russian Federation has experience of such trade in national currencies with China and India. A very successful experience.
              Oil .
              Gas.
              Coal
              Metals.
              Mineral fertilizers.
              Weapon .
              Grain and other foodstuffs.
              - you will have to buy other ones only for rubles.
              And deliveries, for example, of heavy oil and diesel fuel, uranium, to the USA can be linked with OBLIGATORY counter deliveries DESPITE SANCTIONS.
              Not ?
              So there is no heavy oil (100%).
              Diesel fuel(at least 25% in the US market) .
              No gas for Europe. request They won't be able to pay for it anyway. Or let them bring physical gold.
              Will the RF also suffer?
              Apparently yes. But we have an alternative - China and South Korea. Yes, yes - South Korea "received permission" from the United States not to participate in sanctions! So electronics and equipment from these countries will completely replace European ones.
              But what about microchips?
              Wait a bit - it's not summer yet. lol
              China, already inspired by the Russian example in the person of its officials (sorry for the taftology), is already declaring a demand for Taiwan to urgently return to its native harbor. yes
              And when he returns, we will remember about microchips and other radio component base. bully With United China, it will be much easier for us to negotiate about this.
              I think that even ahead of time we will agree.
              Perhaps even jointly corporatize.
              I would stock.

              And do not forget today ... sorry - already yesterday, the sacramental "If "Ukraine" continues to allow itself like this (and it will ALWAYS be!) that sounded from the lips of the Guarantor, then it will finally lose its own statehood.
              And then what ?
              And then the potential of grain exporters No. 1 (RF) and No. 3 (Shumer Stan) will merge and ... provide Europe with ... hunger.
              Rather, VERY high food prices.
              mineral fertilizers?
              They are not for Western countries!
              And this already means that they cannot grow their own crop ... in the proper volume and quality. There will be nothing to feed the cattle ... and this is meat, milk and their products.
              Gas for Europe at 3000-4000 euros will become the norm.
              In the US and Europe, the aviation industry will stop for several years. For not only Avisma products will not come from the Russian Federation, but titanium sponge will also stop coming. And it will take several years to reorganize to other suppliers (in fact, CREATE FROM ZERO) ... Over the years, the aviation industry of these countries in all its cooperative diversity ... will go bankrupt and go bankrupt. And stopping the supply of aluminum will add to the effect, creating problems not only for the aviation industry, but also for the automotive, construction, and other industries.
              They are very well hooked on our hooks. And it will be very entertaining to look at their throwing.
              I repeat - everything that we received from Europe and the USA, we will be able to receive from China and South Korea.
              And of course, all this will be a VERY good incentive to launch our own import substitution production. After the financial reform, this will be especially life-giving for the growth of our economy. And the domestic market will seriously grow thanks to ... yes, yes - deprived of their former statehood, the territory of the United, and without exaggeration - Great Russia.
              Russia, the former "Ukraine", Belarus - will become the core (Single State) of the Eurasian Union. And it will be a very attractive state association .
              But the European Union will not.
              As is the USA.

              But the restructuring will bring certain inconveniences.
              But the main thing is that PERSPECTIVE is clearly visible in all this.

              Until then, war.
              1. Li17
                Li17 6 March 2022 07: 11
                +1
                I agree completely, but all this is doable when Chubais and other "citizens" working in the interests of their real estate and offshore companies are thrown out of the feeder!
                1. bayard
                  bayard 6 March 2022 07: 28
                  +4
                  But in the coming days, we will see whether the authorities are seriously concerned about the sovereignty, security and well-being of citizens, or just go out to play in the field.
                  There is a chance that this is still "serious".
            2. -Paul-
              -Paul- 6 March 2022 07: 33
              -1
              I do not see queues at ATMs and exchangers. I see queues of people wishing to deposit rubles in banks at interest.
        2. Vlad Baryatinsky
          Vlad Baryatinsky 5 March 2022 18: 05
          0
          Quote: Cosm22
          And I agree with Mr. Borisov.

          You are an optimist.
          Quote: Cosm22
          This story will be over by summer.

          Do not flatter yourself, and I am with you. Sanctions are serious and LONG.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 5 March 2022 06: 58
      +17
      But it all depends on the timing of the end of the military operation.

      That's right... the sooner the Nazis and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are defeated, the sooner the country will return to peaceful life.
      Now we need to take the country's fifth column with a tight grip... it is a very dangerous enemy capable of stabbing in the back at a crucial moment.
      Not everyone will pass the lice test.
      1. Civil
        Civil 5 March 2022 07: 23
        -4
        Now we need to take the country's fifth column with a tight grip... it is a very dangerous enemy capable of stabbing in the back at a crucial moment.

        Then it is necessary to introduce martial law, which can be canceled after a special operation, and not to give new powers and new articles to establish a military dictatorship. which will finally choke the economy. Zakharchenko kept 8,5 billion rubles, 2 million euros and more than 120 million US dollars at home in peacetime.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 5 March 2022 07: 25
          0
          Zakharchenko is silent ... does not say whose money it was ... either someone's common fund, or he was sitting on the financial stream ... a muddy story.
        2. bk316
          bk316 5 March 2022 16: 51
          +4
          Then you need to introduce martial law,

          Are we still couching?
          At least read what martial law is. And then they got used to writing smart words without knowing what they mean.
          Maybe when you read it you will understand that we don’t need it for hell.
      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 5 March 2022 07: 49
        +12
        Don't bitch, people. Any squabble between us is a shot in the back - to our soldiers. Be people, not consumers.
      3. Per se.
        Per se. 5 March 2022 08: 14
        +12
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Now we need to take the country's fifth column with a tight grip...
        Our government itself, which column? How, even the seed fund has become highly dependent on imports, in addition, milk powder, meat products, broilers ... It will not be possible to replace everything quickly. Did they all not understand what was going on when they caved in to transnational corporations? Have you become patriots now?

        Simply, I wonder why they suddenly woke up, prepared and waited for the decisive hour? Then, somehow, they were not very prepared, to say the least, how specifically they climbed into this dependence, and, in everything, electronics, civil aviation, medicines, and so on. Maybe after that to "manipulate" and openly surrender to the world masters of capitalism, even with nuclear weapons?...
        There is no faith in the bourgeoisie, fellow oligarchs, renegades, henpecked West, are they patriots?

        Maybe our Soviet KGB took everyone underground, disguised them as "traitors", and the hour "X" has come, of a certain "Phoenix" program, for the revival of Soviet power and the Soviet Union? I don’t know, but without the revival of people’s power, socialism independent of the West, we can’t survive, we can’t win.
        1. bk316
          bk316 5 March 2022 16: 53
          +1
          even the seed fund has become heavily dependent on imports,

          When it did not depend, the yield was several times less.
          Why do you think?

          milk powder, meat products, broilers

          What are broilers?
          1. -Paul-
            -Paul- 6 March 2022 07: 36
            0
            He probably means the breeding egg.
            1. bk316
              bk316 9 March 2022 13: 55
              0
              He probably means the breeding egg.

              20% shortage.
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 5 March 2022 14: 56
        +3
        Alas, ours in Ukraine will be for a long time to carry out cleansing and disarming of 30 million people on an area of ​​600000 square kilometers.
    3. Civil
      Civil 5 March 2022 06: 59
      +15
      It is necessary to force the clown to peace as soon as possible on our conditions. And it is high time to send the economy block to Ulyukaev - to sew mittens.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 5 March 2022 07: 07
        +22
        The Serbs fully support our special operation.
        In Belgrade, there are demonstrations everywhere in support of Russia. Sounds our Anthem and the Serbian Anthem. Serbs carry a huge Russian flag in their hands.
        The police do not interfere, and sometimes join the demonstrators.
        The only thing is that the police do not allow pogroms of the embassies of Ukraine and the USA. There were attempts to throw stones.

        I work with one Serbian woman in science. She wrote to me about what I said above. And she sent a video - first-hand, so to speak. Until this video is banned on the tube.

        Ruska khimna grmi Beograd: Srbi for Ruse - YouTube

        https://youtu.be/45hYR7RzriM

        Serbia and Russia su braћa zauvek!
        One faith - one blood - one brotherhood!

        This is how the demonstrators chant (I think translation is not needed)
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 5 March 2022 07: 16
          +2
          Nexcom
          Nexcom (Dmitry)
          Today, 07: 07
          NEW

          +1
          The Serbs fully support our special operation ...
          Of course, frankly happy for the Serbs. But unfortunately they will do nothing against the general stupefaction europa. The collective madness of the West still outweighs. Perhaps when they start counting losses, they will start to change their shoes. But this is a completely different topic.
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 5 March 2022 07: 18
            +20
            There are few of them, and they themselves are being pressed. They have a NATO base in Kosovo close at hand.
            They are being tacitly pressured to refuse cooperation with Russia. What is left for them to do? But the Serbian people made their choice.
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 5 March 2022 07: 21
              +6

              Nexcom (Dmitry)
              Today, 07: 18
              NEW

              0
              There are few of them, and they themselves are being pressed.
              Yes, Dmitry, I watched these performances on TV. Once again I repeat - it only makes me happy. But unfortunately this is not enough to reassess the views of Westerners. Let us hope for the best.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 5 March 2022 07: 27
          +9
          Quote: Nexcom
          This is how the demonstrators chant (I think translation is not needed)

          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 5 March 2022 07: 30
            +6
            And after all, not a hundred - another demonstrators (like the liberals in Ekaburg held a rally against the war). Full of people. So many.
            1. lwxx
              lwxx 5 March 2022 08: 12
              +3
              On the evening of March 4, a mass rally in support of Russia was held in the capital of Serbia, the city of Belgrade. According to the organizers, about 50 thousand MK.ru others took part in it.
      2. Thrifty
        Thrifty 5 March 2022 07: 55
        +1
        A civilian, Zelensky, no one at all, who fled to Poland. The State Department decides the issues, and the war is beneficial for that, because it allows you to shake off old weapons and ammunition. Yes, and the squabble between Russia and Ukraine plays into their hands. We really need to speed up the military operation, stop negotiations, and start storming Mariupol, Odessa, Kyiv! hi
        1. Civil
          Civil 5 March 2022 09: 11
          -1
          assault on Mariupol, Odessa, Kyiv!

          It will be a sea of ​​blood, an ocean of blood, Russian blood at that. Therefore, even with acting. President the world on our, only ours, terms.
          For those who are dull, they can read about the assault on Grozny, Berlin ... Aleppo, even small groups of the enemy knit an army in street battles, turning cities into ruins ...
      3. bar
        bar 5 March 2022 08: 22
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        It is necessary to force the clown to peace on our terms as soon as possible.

        Forcing this clown to do anything is a stupid exercise, the clown is cardboard and hangs on American strings. He decides nothing and no longer manages anything. Even if it is possible to agree on some humanitarian issues (humanitarian corridors, etc.), no one will implement these agreements on the ground.
      4. fa2998
        fa2998 5 March 2022 17: 18
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        It is necessary to force the clown to peace as soon as possible on our conditions. And it is high time to send the economy block to Ulyukaev - to sew mittens.

        I totally agree with the second part of your comment!
        And from the first, yes it is NECESSARY, but how???
        With 200 thousand groupings, take a country with an area the size of France? With an army of 260 thousand, plus reservists, volunteers and other partisans. The leadership will hide in neighboring countries, and will be called the government in exile. Full support from the West.
        The population does not meet with flowers. People under 40 do not know what the USSR is at all, and they were brought up according to Ukrainian patterns. On our terms, they do not agree! They will partisan.
        To smash anything with "Caliber" and aviation, but it takes years to set the brains. What will we occupy and educate? It is possible, only a millionth group is needed and for a long time. And contain the population of Ukraine, in the conditions of sanctions. hi
    4. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 5 March 2022 08: 03
      -6
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      what our economic block under the government has created, we will be getting out for years.

      laughing laughing laughing Well, where are they to get normal economics, if they rushed into other elements - some, here, decided to become fleet-zksperds, yeah. yes wink
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 08: 09
        +12
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Well, where do they get normal economy

        Yes, sure. Well, there are no normal economists in the Russian Federation, so you have to put a person who has not worked in banks for a day as the head of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation
  2. sergo1914
    sergo1914 5 March 2022 07: 01
    +15
    They tear contracts without compensation, confiscate property, we chew snot. Where is an adequate, but not symmetrical answer?
  3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 07: 05
    +13
    And I'm an optimist. The war will continue for a maximum of a month. I mean the destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as an opposing force (not necessarily physical destruction). There will be fights and skirmishes for a long time. But there will be no organized resistance.
    I believe that our economy will adapt to work in the new conditions in 3-5 months. Again, this does not mean that everything will be fine and better than before the war. Simply, all problems will be identified and systematic work will begin to eradicate them (problems).
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 5 March 2022 07: 18
      +12
      It's better to be realistic... smile

      Optimists are learning English. Pessimists learn Chinese. Realists
      studying a Kalashnikov assault rifle ...
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 5 March 2022 07: 30
        0
        Once upon a time, Dmitry Medvedev, when he was the president of Russia, asked a question in a rather narrow circle: What should we do?! answered - "learn Chinese ..." And now let's remember when he was president ..
      2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 07: 38
        -2
        I seriously studied English. I can interrogate American officers laughing
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 5 March 2022 07: 48
          -1
          I can interrogate American officers laughing

          I feel that soon your skill will be needed in the western regions of Ukraine ... Anglo-Saxon contingent from the former penetrates there from Poland ... I hope our intelligence takes them all on a pencil. what
        2. Kolobochok
          Kolobochok 5 March 2022 07: 53
          0
          It would be better if they answered you in Russian. This is aerobatics during interrogation
          1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
            Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 07: 56
            -3
            I think that there are enough specialists who will get answers in Russian even from those who do not know it (the language)))).
            1. Nexcom
              Nexcom 5 March 2022 08: 16
              +1
              You can also interrogate Swedish mercenaries - almost all of them speak English. I worked in Sweden for a year, I know what I'm talking about.
          2. fa2998
            fa2998 5 March 2022 17: 22
            0
            Aerobatics is when they themselves write testimony in Russian. wink wink
        3. Nexcom
          Nexcom 5 March 2022 08: 02
          +1
          I seriously studied English. I can interrogate American officers


          I also. In the army, by the way, it came in handy. Some things had to be translated.
          (No, not for the "partners" from NATO - then the United States heavily merged the country and the NATO members were considered "partners." Just the opposite, and not translated for them. bully )
    2. sagitovich
      sagitovich 5 March 2022 08: 05
      +2
      Five years, no less. We will all recover together after this "strike" of sanctions. No need for rhetoric. I agree with the policy of our president, our country, for the sake of the further well-being of our children. The rise will become noticeable in seven years.
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 5 March 2022 08: 49
        +2
        Quote: sagitovich
        Five years, no less. We will all recover together after this "strike" of sanctions. No need for rhetoric.

        So he does not talk about a full recovery. He speaks only of the crisis period. As I understand it, at that time we will be able to find and test ways and measures to overcome the consequences, to establish new chains and ties, both economic and industrial.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 5 March 2022 14: 59
          -3
          After the crisis of 2008, Russia has not recovered after 14 years, and now we have been thrown back in fact to the year 2000 in terms of the economy and the standard of living.
  4. archiroll
    archiroll 5 March 2022 07: 08
    +5
    It is necessary to form a goal with which Russia will develop. Then an action plan for at least 50 years. Planning / predicting without understanding the strategy is stupid ...
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 07: 17
      0
      In my opinion 50 years is too much. Here at least for 10-15 years to build a real plan.
      And even then the plan for such a period is unlikely to be fulfilled. And not because there will be no political will, but because a world war will begin in the coming years.
      So the most realistic plan is to prepare for a world war in order to preserve the potential for revival as much as possible.
    2. your1970
      your1970 5 March 2022 07: 19
      -3
      Quote: arhitroll
      Then the action plan for at least 50 years.

      Eco pushed you ... this is impossible in principle. Even in the USSR with a planned economy ..
      Tomorrow there will be some kind of bacterium (conditionally!) accelerating rust - and everything will be made of plastic. Or the price of oil will jump 100 times - and everyone will ride bicycles.
      Who will need your metallurgical plants built according to your 50 year plan - after that?
      And your plan will be broken into pieces in 3-5 years maximum ...
      1. archiroll
        archiroll 5 March 2022 07: 29
        -2
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: arhitroll
        Then the action plan for at least 50 years.

        Eco pushed you ... this is impossible in principle. Even in the USSR with a planned economy ..
        Tomorrow there will be some kind of bacterium (conditionally!) accelerating rust - and everything will be made of plastic. Or the price of oil will jump 100 times - and everyone will ride bicycles.
        Who will need your metallurgical plants built according to your 50 year plan - after that?
        And your plan will be broken into pieces in 3-5 years maximum ...

        No need to panic. There was not enough computing power - that's why it was difficult. Now it is quite possible.
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 07: 42
          +2
          There was not enough computing power - that's why it was difficult. Now it is quite possible.

          The same was said about weather forecasts. Little has changed in the last fifty years. It's not about computing power, but about the theory that they failed to build. No system - nothing to count.
        2. sagitovich
          sagitovich 5 March 2022 08: 15
          0
          This computing technique is not able to store information. Lost all the projects and technologies of the past. They handed over paper projects for waste paper, now they can’t find anything.
        3. your1970
          your1970 5 March 2022 08: 54
          +2
          Quote: arhitroll
          No need to panic. There was not enough computing power - that's why it was difficult. Now it is quite possible.

          And how do you take into account, for example, the rebel attack on the Saudis - with a 10-fold increase in oil prices or the results of the war with Ukraine - if Poland enters Lviv tomorrow or the consequences of an accident at any remaining nuclear power plant in Europe?
          What computer can calculate the inadequate actions of the masses of people?
          1. archiroll
            archiroll 5 March 2022 09: 01
            0
            These are operational adjustments. First the concept - who are we? LLC "Russia" with a staff of 140 million? Or a self-sufficient country with 500 million inhabitants? Or even a 20 million branch for the extraction of resources ...
            1. your1970
              your1970 5 March 2022 09: 12
              +2
              Quote: arhitroll
              These are operational adjustments.

              At the level of wars?!
              Quote: arhitroll
              Or a self-sufficient country with 500 million inhabitants?

              To do this, it is necessary to annex the territories of the Department of Internal Affairs and the USSR by military actions ...
              At this stage, all planning, even in theory, can be closed ...
              1. archiroll
                archiroll 5 March 2022 09: 19
                -2
                Disagree. But the discussion on this platform is technically difficult. You can not be afraid of a nuclear global war for 10 years. Depending on the plan, you can join, you can go outside the Moscow Ring Road and ask a healthy young family what they need for the appearance of children ...
                1. your1970
                  your1970 5 March 2022 09: 34
                  +3
                  Quote: arhitroll
                  you can go outside the Moscow Ring Road and ask a healthy young family what they need for the appearance of kids ...

                  As soon as you give a young family money and a hut, 99% will want an iPhone, a Mercedes and go to Spain on vacation...
                  In Switzerland and Sweden (in Sweden before the influx of refugees) - the same numbers of children as we have.
                  Moreover, in the late USSR there were already no more than 2 children. 3 were already rare, everyone in our village knew about 4-5 - there were 10k such families.
                  In the numbers you need, only India and China breed (until 2010 - later, too)
                  And Africa...
                  There are no countries in the world now with a decent life and a large number of children in families. Either- or ...
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 5 March 2022 14: 02
                    +2
                    As soon as you give a young family money and a hut, 99% will want an iPhone, a Mercedes and go to Spain on vacation...
                    I want to note that in English cities with relatively affordable housing, white families with 3-4 children are not uncommon.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 5 March 2022 17: 46
                      0
                      “As Chris Sherwood, executive director of Relate, a relationship-support charity, says marriage has now been replaced by other priorities: education, travel, buying a home. And even what used to lead directly to marriage – having a child – is now , on the contrary, delays the conclusion of a formal union.And there are economic reasons for this - the average wedding in the UK costs £ 27.
                      According to the latest statistics, the most popular day for weddings in the UK was July 30, 2016 - on this day 4742 couples got married in the country.

                      And here is the most piquant


                      "A third of pregnancies end in abortions, and half of conceptions occur outside of marriage.
                      In 2017, according to the ONS, 679 children were born, the smallest number in five years. The British began to give birth to children not only less, but also later - now the average age of the birth of the first child is 106 years (in 30,5 it was 1975 years). At the same time, “British” is a rather conventional designation, given that more than 26,4% of mothers are visitors. There are now 1,9 children per mother in England and Wales, the lowest in history."
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 5 March 2022 23: 15
                        0
                        The average UK wedding costs £27.
                        Colored people spend 100 pieces on weddings.
                        now accounts for 1,9 children
                        And where real estate is available, this figure is higher.
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 6 March 2022 08: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        And where real estate is available, this figure is higher.

                        It can't be higher MEDIUM NUMERAL across England...
                        That is, if 100 families with 3 children live near you, it only means that 50 families with no children at all and 50 with 1 child live nearby.

                        1,9 in England is even less than 2,1 in Switzerland
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 March 2022 11: 23
                        0
                        50 families live nearby without children at all
                        Yes, in large cities (London, Birmingham), where housing is prohibitively expensive. I cited this observation as a factor in the ratio of housing affordability and fertility. If housing is available everywhere in UK as in Hastings, then they will give birth as in Hastings.
                    2. sniperino
                      sniperino 6 March 2022 08: 09
                      +1
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      in English cities with relatively affordable housing, white families with 3-4 children are not uncommon
                      In the UN list of countries in terms of birth rate, England is several points below Russia.
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 March 2022 12: 57
                        0
                        I gave this example as an illustration of the ratio of living space / family.
                      2. sniperino
                        sniperino 6 March 2022 15: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        And where real estate is available, this figure is higher.
                        There is no direct relationship. How do you imagine it? "Honey, we can afford another child: we have one spare room" (option: "we can afford to increase the living space"). Here, in general, it is not the economy that works in the first place, but social representations (customs, beliefs, morality). Are there more people in megacities with the "childfree" morality because apartments are expensive? Not because they want to live for themselves without burdens?
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 March 2022 16: 23
                        +1
                        not economics, but social representations
                        What are the social representations if the family is stupidly lacking space? And vice versa, if a spacious house with a garden, why not? In Newcastle, a three-room house with a garden is cheaper than our apartment in London. Keep three children in one room like parrots? So even parrots from cramped mind will go.
                      4. sniperino
                        sniperino 6 March 2022 16: 29
                        +1
                        And if you put an ad "Changing a three-ruble note in London for a 4-room house with a garden in Newcastle"? Didn't think?
                      5. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 March 2022 16: 49
                        +1
                        Here they change only for money. Yes, I like being in London.
                      6. sniperino
                        sniperino 6 March 2022 18: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Yes, I like being in London.
                        And I mean the same thing: I like London more than I want another child. Those who do not have children at all also think so: glamor implies eternal youth, wealth and the absence of problems, in particular, with children. And a glamorous lifestyle is not an economy, but a social idea of ​​what it means to live with dignity.
                      7. your1970
                        your1970 6 March 2022 21: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        What are the social representations if the family is stupidly lacking space?

                        When social representations were - "many children are good" in the family of my father-in-law, 74 years old, there were 11 children.
                        11 children + parents + 2 grandparents + oven 6 sq.m = 58 sq.m....
                        Today on this square 2 people are cramped ..
                        And that's a fact...

                        For a test family, by today's standards, it would be necessary to have a house of 400-500 meters.

                        Z.s. we together they brought you Examples(from completely different sources) that in England the number of children is lower than ours
      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 5 March 2022 07: 30
        0
        Any plans should always be considered according to the worst-case scenario ... this is the ABC of realism.
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 07: 45
          -3
          And where do you get the data to understand what is the worst option?
          However, there is a way out - to assume that the end of the world will happen. How would you order the economy to be built on the basis of such a forecast?
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 5 March 2022 08: 15
            0
            However, there is a way out - to assume that the end of the world will happen.

            Of course, the end of the world will happen ... if an asteroid a couple of kilometers across crashes into the Earth, or an X-ray beam from some kind of cosmic catastrophe passes over the Earth's surface, or we are pulled into a Black hole ... smile I do not understand why life on Earth has not yet been destroyed in this way.
            In the meantime, humanity is self-destructing itself ... such is se la vie.
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 6 March 2022 15: 51
            -1
            Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
            And where do you get the data to understand what is the worst option?
            However, there is a way out - to assume that the end of the world will happen. How would you order the economy to be built on the basis of such a forecast?
            People have believed for centuries and continue to believe in it, but somehow they are building the economy. Not? For a forecast, such a prediction will not be enough: the economy is built on forecast calculations (this is a completely different type of activity).
  5. Roust
    Roust 5 March 2022 07: 09
    +6
    Let's live. We'll see. After the Crimea, too, many alarmists yelled: "everything is lost," however, for the West, business comes first, and everything will come full circle. They will definitely have to negotiate with us, especially with full pants and a good club over a stupid head.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 5 March 2022 07: 18
      +3

      Roust (Rouslan)
      Today, 07: 09
      NEW
      0
      Let's live. We'll see. After the Crimea, too, many alarmists yelled: "everything is lost" ...
      So yes, they still do not calm down. In the meantime, through the land of Crimea, WATER IS GOING BY THE CHANNEL! I consider this a huge success of our operation in an unnecessary one.
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 07: 18
      +13
      Quote: Roust
      After the Crimea, too, many alarmists yelled: "everything is lost"

      After Crimea, we got the most severe crisis of 2015-2016 (again, not because we annexed Crimea, but because of the incompetent actions of the economy bloc), the consequences of which somehow overcame already in the 20s, and even then not completely. Well, just for reference :)
      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 07: 29
        +1
        I will not talk about the whole country, but I worked for a company that traded with the West.
        At first there was a panic, the exchange rate rose sharply, restrictions. But everything recovered quickly enough. And over time, some of the instruments from the West were replaced by Russian ones. Moreover, as our engineers said, the quality is not worse than Western ones. By the way, the company had statistics of failures and complaints. So - every year the devices from the West became less and less quality. The same Germans do not want to work with iron. They hire visitors.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 07: 41
          +5
          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          I will not talk about the whole country, but I worked for a company that traded with the West.

          And the crisis affected your company to a minimal extent. This can happen if goods with inelastic demand, sales of which are little dependent on prices
          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          But everything recovered quickly enough.

          Tell me, when did your salaries recover in terms of purchasing power, i.e. in dollar terms?
          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          And over time, some of the instruments from the West were replaced by Russian ones.

          And what devices are we talking about, if not a secret?
          1. MrFox
            MrFox 5 March 2022 07: 53
            +5
            And what devices are we talking about, if not a secret?

            If they replaced the Western ones, it's not a secret.
            But something tells me that there will be no answer
          2. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
            Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 07: 53
            -10
            And what devices are we talking about, if not a secret?

            For the oil and gas industry. There were supply restrictions. But they were easily bypassed. And at prices - suppliers gave huge discounts. Not all, but many.

            Tell me, when did your salaries recover in terms of purchasing power, i.e. in dollar terms?

            No. But we weren't poor. In 2015 I went on vacation to Europe for 22 nights, and in 2016 I traveled twice - a total of 47 nights. True, I didn’t have enough money for something else (large). The language was taught and rested in Spain, Germany, Italy.
            And I was an ordinary programmer.
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 08: 03
              +8
              Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
              No. But we weren't poor.

              Well, I'm happy for you. And you did not live in poverty for one simple reason
              Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
              For the oil and gas industry

              If they have not reduced the volume of purchases (consumables are important there, or something that they need the edge), then, of course, the crisis has not particularly affected you.
              Unlike 95% of the rest of the Russian Federation. But, for example, the enterprise where I worked immediately "flew away" in terms of revenue by about 40% due to the refusal (including the oil and gas industry) from investment programs that included our products. And how the whole industry was shaking, I know firsthand - I saw and talked with many.
              Actually, then the traders also got it - the same chains of electronics stores tried to keep prices to the last, so that they would buy from them and not from competitors, go to losses, just to sell the goods (to pay off bank loans).
              So your case is an exception to the general picture in the Russian Federation
              1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 08: 08
                -4
                Partially agree. I see the reason for our easy way out of the crisis in a normal leadership. After a short period of panic, measures were developed and then implemented. At first, even a few people were laid off, but later new ones were recruited.
                And the company did not take large loans, especially in foreign currency.
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 08: 11
                  +4
                  Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                  I see the reason for our easy way out of the crisis in a normal leadership.

                  You'd better tell how much your revenue declined during the crisis - and everything will become clear immediately.
                  1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                    Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 08: 17
                    -9
                    Revenue decreased in foreign currency. In rubles, it has grown a lot.
                    Then the currency began to grow. I am writing - many European and American firms gave big discounts in the first years.
                    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 08: 21
                      +6
                      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                      Revenue decreased in foreign currency. In rubles, it has grown a lot.

                      Well, what to talk about with you after that at all:)))))))))) For you, the crisis turned out to be a gold mine. The ruble revenue increased sharply, and the accompanying ruble payments (rent, storage, transport, etc. - not much, because people tried to keep prices) while the Western guys gave discounts, so you didn’t lose the margin :))))))
                      And now put yourself in the place of an ordinary manufacturer, whose costs for imported components have risen sharply, and revenue (in rubles) has fallen by tens of percent...
                      And with all this, the purchasing power of salary has decreased even for you. That is, your employees still began to buy less than before, and the effective demand of the population is one of the most important drivers of the economy. Imagine what happened in other areas...
                      1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 08: 33
                        -9
                        And I did not write that the deterioration did not happen.
                        It's just that the crisis was not so terrible. The panic was huge. But in reality everything was softer and gradually the situation changed.
                        From memory: one "businessman" wrote in the comments that gasoline at the beginning of 2015 will cost 100+ rubles, and therefore prices will all rise three times. Another bet me, believing that the euro by November 2015 will reach 150+ rubles.
                        If you take the facts (and I argued with many at that time), there was a crisis, but on the Internet it was several times worse than in real life.
                      2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 08: 47
                        +6
                        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        It's just that the crisis was not so terrible.

                        For you personally, yes. For companies that were forced to cut staff by 15-25%, and transfer the rest to a four-day job, and incur huge losses from the sharply increased costs of previously taken loans, the situation was "a little" different. And these were the vast majority
                        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        If you take the facts (and I argued with many at that time), there was a crisis, but on the Internet it was several times worse than in real life.

                        Sorry, but it was just in real life that he was much worse than on the Internet. It is clear that there was panic and that people then prophesied an apocalypse and a dollar for 100 rubles each (today it’s no longer funny, right?), And, of course, extreme predictions did not come true, but the blow to the economy of enterprises, according to development plans was terrible and all this was felt for many more years.
                        It’s just that the topic has already become boring and it hasn’t been discussed much - people just resigned themselves and got used to the new reality
                      3. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 09: 00
                        -5
                        Naturally, I judge from my bell tower.
                        But so are you. Is not it?

                        incur huge losses from the sharply increased costs of previously taken loans.

                        This is especially true for organizations that have taken loans in foreign currency.
                        They thought they were the smartest. It turned out not.

                        dollar for 100 rubles (today it’s not funny anymore, right?)

                        Just funny. Why is it believed that the dollar is not subject to inflation. This is a little different. And the same dollar has depreciated since 2014, if not twice, then 1,5 times for sure.
                      4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 09: 23
                        +7
                        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        But so are you. Is not it?

                        Not this way. I, unlike you, had the opportunity to see this situation in large groups of enterprises, and throughout the entire supply chain.
                        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        This is especially true for organizations that have taken loans in foreign currency.
                        They thought they were the smartest. It turned out not.

                        They thought nothing, they had no choice. Our economic bloc maintains an artificial deficit of the ruble (the ruble mass per ruble of goods is half that in the West) and for those who do not have enough money, borrow abroad, no question ... And foreign countries give loans, of course, in foreign currency.
                        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        Just funny. Why is it believed that the dollar is not subject to inflation. This is a little different.

                        Right. Only now you have confused dollar inflation with ruble inflation.
                        To make it clearer for you. Let's say there is... well, let there be a car, and it costs $20. With a dollar value of 000 rubles/$, it costs 30 rubles.
                        A year passes, and the dollar becomes cheaper. Now the car costs not 20, but 000 dollars. An increase in price of 20%. With the dollar exchange rate unchanged, the car will cost us 300 rubles. - 1,5% rise in price.
                        But our good government took and collapsed the rate by half. And the dollar by the end of the year costs not 30 but 60 rubles. Total car costs 1 rubles. Rise in price by 218%, of which 000% is caused by dollar inflation, and 103% - by the ruble exchange rate.
                        Inflation of the dollar cannot in any way lead to a change in the dollar against the ruble. More precisely, with an ideal balance it would be like this - only the ratio of ruble inflation and dollar inflation would have an impact on the ruble exchange rate. That is, if the dollar fell by 1%, and the ruble - by 2%, then the ruble exchange rate fell by the difference.
                        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        And the same dollar has depreciated since 2014, if not twice, then 1,5 times for sure.

                        I hasten to disappoint from January 2014 to December 2020, dollar inflation was a crazy 11,77%
                      5. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 09: 27
                        0
                        I hasten to disappoint from January 2014 to December 2020, dollar inflation was a crazy 11,77%

                        You're right. I screwed up.
                      6. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 09: 28
                        +3
                        Yes, it’s okay, with whom it doesn’t happen - let the first one throw a brick at me.
                      7. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 09: 33
                        -2
                        They thought nothing, they had no choice.

                        I will not argue here. In recent years, the owner of the company has been constantly taking loans in rubles. I can't say anything about 2014-2016.
                        I know that until 2014 I did not take loans at all.
                      8. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2022 09: 41
                        +2
                        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                        In recent years, the owner of the company has been constantly taking loans in rubles.

                        In fact, foreign currency loans became terribly unpopular after 2008. But many companies sold their shares and bonds on international exchanges, thus attracting foreign capital. In addition, many banks themselves took out loans abroad. there wasn't enough money.
        2. Nexcom
          Nexcom 5 March 2022 07: 53
          0
          I agree with the Expert_Analyst_Forecaster

          Example: PHI Versaprobe. Bought by the university through the German branch. American device.
          Engineer - Russian-speaking from those who left under the return program to Vaterland. The engineer's assistant - a former "Balt" (Russian-speaking, well, what kind of Balt is he really if he just lived there before he fled from the "democratic" Baltic), married a German woman and naturalized there. They come to adjust the device. German - NOT ONE!

          The assembler of the device was a real Yankes - supposedly only they can correctly assemble from the parent company.

          Another example: Rigaku Ettlingen SE, Germany (Japanese company).
          The boss is Japanese. The rest are nowhere. Equipment Engineer - RUSSIAN. Germans - NO ONE.
  6. aslan balayev
    aslan balayev 5 March 2022 07: 27
    +3
    Where is the crisis? No crisis! Well, yes, the airspace to the West is closed. So Yuri Borisovich had a crisis. crying Where and how to withdraw the stolen billions?! On SS 57? On chess? Or maybe on mock-ups of attack drones? am It was not necessary to steal billions from the military budget. The special operation must be supplied, Mr. Yuri Borisovich! Don't talk about the crisis yes
  7. archiroll
    archiroll 5 March 2022 07: 28
    -1
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    In my opinion 50 years is too much. Here at least for 10-15 years to build a real plan.
    And even then the plan for such a period is unlikely to be fulfilled. And not because there will be no political will, but because a world war will begin in the coming years.
    So the most realistic plan is to prepare for a world war in order to preserve the potential for revival as much as possible.


    So preparing for a nuclear war in 10 years - isn't that a plan? and 40 years after in order to survive. This is one of the options...
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 08: 04
      -3
      It turns out that the plan is still for 10 years, not 50.
  8. A_Mazkov
    A_Mazkov 5 March 2022 07: 29
    +1
    3 to 5 months?
    Yes, you, my friend, are an optimist! wassat
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 March 2022 15: 05
      +1
      He most likely spoke about the way out of the crisis situation in the country from 30 to 50 months.
  9. riwas
    riwas 5 March 2022 07: 31
    +1
    According to Yuri Borisov, the crisis period in the Russian Federation, as he hopes, can last from 3 to 5 months.

    So Ukraine is not Georgia - the territory is larger and the perennial brainwashing of the population, the national battalions.
  10. FoBoss_V
    FoBoss_V 5 March 2022 07: 58
    +7
    At the age of five, I still believe with a stretch ... And then. But already five months, this is nonsense. How far are they out of touch with reality in the Kremlin?
    1. RMT
      RMT 5 March 2022 10: 41
      +1
      Do not panic, calm the population. Here is the task. In addition, the Kremlin knows about the difficulties of the common people only theoretically.
  11. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 5 March 2022 08: 10
    -6
    Quote: riwas
    According to Yuri Borisov, the crisis period in the Russian Federation, as he hopes, can last from 3 to 5 months.

    So Ukraine is not Georgia - the territory is larger and the perennial brainwashing of the population, the national battalions.

    Yes, Lenin and Co. put a good face on the state, which they created themselves. And all because they thought in terms of world-global communism. And even the realist Stalin could not defuse this bomb. hi
  12. evgen1221
    evgen1221 5 March 2022 08: 14
    +3
    A set of measures is being decided to preserve personal profits.
  13. MrFox
    MrFox 5 March 2022 08: 23
    +3
    In Auchan, they limited the issuance of 10 bottles of vegetable oil to one person. Well, just for 5 months, as Borisov said.

    Comrade Borisov, it's a mess that a private shop is engaged in rationing consumption. It's time for the government to start thinking about ration cards.

    I feel the approach of the romance of the 90s - do not give more than two loaves in one hand, who unloaded the car to that without a queue ...
    1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 08: 42
      -10
      Everything is lost? Or do you personally lack vegetable oil?
      1. MrFox
        MrFox 5 March 2022 08: 44
        +1
        What did you mean?
        1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 08: 53
          -5
          Where does the panic come from? The fact does not match the reaction.

          limited the issuance of 10 bottles of vegetable oil per person. - FACT
          I feel the approach of romance of the 90s - do not give more than two loaves in one hand - REACTION.
          1. MrFox
            MrFox 5 March 2022 09: 06
            +3
            Everything, I understand, you did not find the 90s. So the response is not clear.
            1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
              Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 09: 07
              -4
              Found. And even found perestroika. I don't remember any restrictions on bread.
              And I don’t understand the panic about 10 bottles of vegetable oil in one hand.
              By the way, we don't have queues at all.
              Yesterday I even looked at the prices. From what I bought - the same prices as a month ago.
              1. Nexcom
                Nexcom 5 March 2022 09: 35
                +1
                But I remember when in Ekaburg we didn’t sell more than two chickens in one hand in the 90s.
                1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                  Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 09: 38
                  -1
                  As far as I remember, in the 90s (since 92) there was no shortage at all after prices were released.
                  The prices were great. There may have been isolated cases. But that it was a problem - I do not remember. But that money was not enough - I remember.
                  1. Nexcom
                    Nexcom 5 March 2022 09: 43
                    +1
                    I myself stood in that queue .... yes, and there was also a catastrophic lack of money. Wages depreciated so that it could buy three packs of foreign cigarettes.

                    However, you can not believe, your right.
              2. MrFox
                MrFox 5 March 2022 09: 36
                +1
                Party worker? Did you shop in a special distributor?
                1. Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
                  Expert_Analyst_Forecaster 5 March 2022 09: 45
                  -1
                  I will surprise you, but in August 1991 the CPSU was banned.
                  It looks like you missed the 90s.
  14. Million
    Million 5 March 2022 08: 28
    0
    Industry must be developed, production and agriculture, otherwise the whole country does nothing but trade ...
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 5 March 2022 08: 44
    +2
    Maybe I'm not an economist, but I understand the economy needs to be stimulated in a crisis. Loans will be the best incentive. only construction
  16. Alexander X
    Alexander X 5 March 2022 08: 54
    -7
    Everyone is complaining about the imposition of sanctions. Don't care about them. Because NATO countries with hangers-on are far from even a third of the Earth. We are reorienting our suppliers from west to east. And then, why did Western firms enter our market? Yes, because they need a market for their goods. The Western market is full. Let it be just a dozen% of the world volume. But these are exactly the % that give them an increase in revenue! They will return, I'm sure. With chips, the issue will be resolved both by creating our own and through the accession of Taiwan to China in the near future. The fact that the oligarchs are dispossessed, so, you see, they will keep money in Russia. Maybe Sakhipzadovna with economic. they will put them in a block for economic sabotage and reform the Central Bank... And the denazification of Ukraine will give Russia how many benefits. You look, and engines, which we still lack, will be supplied, and the Nikolaev shipyard will be used. Not everything was destroyed there. And there will be control over grain from Ukraine. And this, together with our grains, is 50% of world production. And if they export for rubles, then they will start selling us what we need, otherwise they will starve and freeze. And dollars and euros need to be in the furnace, because they don’t sell for them anyway. Of course, why would anyone need paper that is not backed by anything. Etc. Etc. If only our government did not betray us, as it was under Tagged and Alkash ...
    1. RMT
      RMT 5 March 2022 10: 45
      0
      Do you have dollars and euros?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 5 March 2022 15: 10
        -1
        There are many - like an airbag for a rainy day, as it will now take 2-3 months, most of the foreign components in all Russian warehouses will end and a full paragraph of inflation will begin at 40, part of the production will stop, the whole economy will crumble, they are already predicting a fall in Russia's GDP this year by 30 % with all the consequences and this is likely to happen.
  17. archiroll
    archiroll 5 March 2022 08: 57
    0
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    It turns out that the plan is still for 10 years, not 50.

    Just at 50. The first part is preparation. The second part is to survive the consequences better than other capitalists. Better to plan and prepare before the start...
  18. Nexcom
    Nexcom 5 March 2022 09: 23
    +1
    The oligarchs have another misfortune. crying The Italian authorities confiscated their yachts from Mordashov and Timchenko (the cost of the vessels was estimated at 65 million euros and 75 million euros, respectively). crying
    A villa in Tuscany was taken away from the former State Duma deputy Savchenko (the cost is being assessed). crying so said RBC.

    Now their "Western friends" will begin to disembowel their money-boxes and other things "acquired by overwork" from these figures.

    Started.....
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 March 2022 15: 14
      +1
      And what are you worried about - they compensate all their losses at your expense in the domestic market, but the fact that you and another dozen or two million people, if not forty million, will become poorer, will not bother them.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 5 March 2022 15: 49
        0
        I'm worried about my family and ordinary people and not these grabbers.
  19. Adrey
    Adrey 5 March 2022 09: 38
    0
    Everything he said was right. 3 - 5 months, and then ... then we'll get used to it
  20. GREG68
    GREG68 5 March 2022 09: 38
    +4
    Here is the storyteller! In 3-5 months, we will only begin to feel the beginning of the sanctions!
  21. engineer74
    engineer74 5 March 2022 09: 41
    +7
    Special support from the state goes in the direction of the IT industry - domestic programmers, companies and enterprises engaged in the creation of microelectronics

    This, of course, is good, but do we have that the world has converged on IT like a wedge?
    Machine tool building, equipment for the same microelectronics, equipment for the food industry, for chemistry, they don’t need benefits and money?! am
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 5 March 2022 09: 48
      +5
      Wow! All right. They forgot the equipment for research laboratories because developments do not appear out of thin air. We need research activities that are also covered up - Western colleagues refuse to continue to work together and co-finance the work.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 March 2022 15: 15
      +3
      "Equipment for the same microelectronics, equipment for the food industry, for chemistry." In these areas, Russia will be import substitution for a very long time and 10 years will not be enough.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 5 March 2022 17: 54
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        "Equipment for the same microelectronics, equipment for the food industry, for chemistry." In these areas, Russia will be import substitution for a very long time and 10 years will not be enough.

        10 years old, you are, however, an optimist! fellow
        But, as they say, like, the Chinese: "Any path begins with the first step!"
        Plus, perhaps what is called the fashionable words "synergistic effect", how it can work on modern technologies and sensible leadership, I can’t even imagine ... hi
        I'm an optimist too! drinks
  22. comradChe
    comradChe 5 March 2022 09: 50
    +3
    Where are the conclusions on the Central Bank and personally on Naebulina and Selumanov for their incompetence (betrayal)? Why were 100 tons of gold sent to the viper and now there is silence? Chubais with his "family" on the bunk or are they a sacred cow for all parties?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 March 2022 15: 17
      0
      Chubais - due to his silence in the information field, he is most likely already retired.
  23. KSVK
    KSVK 5 March 2022 10: 09
    -1
    Quote: Paranoid50
    some, here, decided to become fleet-zksperds, yeah. yes wink

    And some journals run Roskosmos.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 March 2022 15: 23
      +1
      It can be said that most of the programs of Roskosmos were covered with a copper basin with the launches of foreign satellites, apparently, the cover for the training of foreign cosmonauts, the cover for tourist launches, the cover for the supply of foreign equipment, materials and microelectronics, the cover for joint missions with the US and the EU if nothing changes, the staff of all Roscosmos enterprises will have to be reduced, and alas, this also applies to all other areas. And Yuri Borisov is just a balabol from the military-industrial complex, none of his statements had and has nothing in common with reality.
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 5 March 2022 15: 28
        -3
        Quote: Vadim237
        Yuri Borisov is just a balabol from the military-industrial complex, none of his statements had and has nothing to do with reality

        And Vadim237 is just a balabol from the military-industrial complex none of his statements had anything to do with reality and has not laughing
  24. Elephant
    Elephant 5 March 2022 10: 49
    +2
    Some of the government's anti-crisis measures scare me. Decided to support snickering and outrageous mobile operators, made it possible to raise tariffs for the population
  25. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 March 2022 11: 36
    +2
    It seems that only illiterate preschoolers remained at VO. "Terms of duration" ... Measure the length of your length. Texts at the level of the kindergarten of the USSR. Not the site has become, but a shame.
  26. Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers
    0
    It was smooth on paper ...
  27. valera75
    valera75 6 March 2022 18: 05
    0
    And this uncle is a terrible optimist. You in the government could not fulfill the presidential decrees of 2012 for 9 years, which greatly angered Putin, and now, when he is sculpting the most severe pressure on the country, we are hunchbacked. I hope that in 3-4 months many in the West they will find loopholes or in general there will be a massive rollback of raids (sanctions), but this is only an assumption.
  28. Nadir
    Nadir 6 March 2022 19: 16
    -1
    our interesting country. buckwheat disappeared. sugar and cheap sunflower oil. everything else in bulk. WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!! shop magnet supermarket Bashkortostan