View from Kyiv: the mood of Ukrainians on the tenth day of the military operation

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If we take it globally, then, at first glance, no cardinal changes have occurred. Both those who perceived the entry of Russian troops on Ukrainian soil as a liberation, and those who still continue to consider this an "occupation" remained of their opinion. The only difference is that pro-Russian Ukrainians are forced to be extremely prudent and careful in their judgments and actions.

For them, everything is simple and clear: there are “ours” and there are “enemies”. But what is happening now with the bulk of Ukrainians who find themselves between these two poles? Since 2014, these people have been stubbornly trying to hide their heads in the sand, not noticing either the civil war in the country, or linguistic oppression, or the sharply changed policy of the Ukrainian authorities, who have taken a course towards complete and uncontested de-Russification and Banderization of the entire population of the country.



They were not very happy about the military tax, which reduced their income, but at the same time they did not bother to reason about why it was introduced, and what these funds were used for. They also did not like the replacement of the Russian language in schools with German, Polish or French, but they did not perceive it as repressions against the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine. "Strained" that it entailed additional financial costs for tutors for their own children. Torchlight processions under Nazi flags seemed to many to be just a bright picture on TV. As if everything is happening not in Kyiv, but somewhere very far from it. But processions were held under the windows, neo-Bandera rallies with the humiliation of veterans - in the center of the capital.

First of all, the well-being of their home, their family was at the forefront. They learned to perfectly mimic and avoid "sharp corners", depending on the need to quickly switch from Russian to Ukrainian, and vice versa. Representatives of this particular stratum formed the backbone of that million-odd Ukrainians who found themselves abroad in the first days of the war. And now all these people are faced with a difficult moral choice. Difficult not because it requires complex conclusions, but because in recent years they have lost the habit of thinking and making decisions.

Some of them, especially those who are far away from the suddenly dangerous Motherland, continue to position themselves as ardent patriots, chanting the slogans “Glory to Ukraine” and staining walls and fences in the yellow and blue colors of “national pride”. After all, it is so convenient, and most importantly safe - to be a "patriot in exile." I note that the propaganda that the Ukrainian authorities tirelessly squeezed into the heads of their fellow citizens all these eight years played an important role here. Some still can't get over the idea of ​​how exceptional they are and that the whole world owes them something.

The same part of the population, which for one reason or another did not leave the country, is in an extremely deplorable moral state. Most Ukrainians frankly do not understand either the tasks or the goals of the Russian leadership, which suddenly decided to "attack innocent Ukraine." Eight years of denying objective reality and what is happening in the country today has played a very nasty and cruel joke on these people. The Maidan of 2014 was something far away for them, and the war in Donbas did not exist for them at all, as well as refugees from there with their stories about the crimes of the National Battalions and the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The most frequently asked question that can be heard on the streets of Ukrainian cities is: “What are we for?!” Even those who did not support the war in the Donbass firmly believe that someone else fought there, and not they, while not realizing that the whole society bears retribution for this. There are quite a few people who, under the influence of Ukrainian propaganda, shudder at the thought of the entry of Russian troops into their cities. After all news social media feeds, and those several television channels, the work of which the authorities managed to restore, are relentlessly full of messages in which the keywords are “destroy”, “kill”, “shoot” and the like.

At the same time, missile strikes against the civilian population of their own Armed Forces and the activities of their own bands of looters created by the Ukrainian authorities are attributed to the actions of Russian soldiers. But many people, alas, believe in all this nonsense. They also believe because in most cases they do not have other information. This uncertainty generates more and more tension in society.

The first days gave people a colossal adrenaline rush. Those who were anti-Russian rushed to the military registration and enlistment offices. Someone ran to the defense, someone started waving flags and building barricades. Other people were imbued with the instantly flashed bright hope that the Russians had finally come and this mess would end, began to intensively monitor any mention of the creation of partisan detachments and the organization of resistance. And for those, and for others, life has acquired a completely new meaning.

However, after the first ten days of the military operation in Ukraine, it becomes clear that nothing will end quickly, that it will all be much more difficult and much longer than expected on both sides. It begins to seem to people that time is frozen and the wait will last forever. At the same time, the ideological coloring of the situation in no way removes many purely everyday problems somehow: lack of food, medicines, etc., which only increase the degree of tension, which may soon result in mass pogroms.

People who initially perceived everything that happens as an extreme situation, albeit dangerous, but short-lived, are painfully trying to reorganize into a mode of constant being “on the verge”, which can last no one knows how long. In someone, this gives rise to a desire for mutual assistance and support of others. Someone slowly but surely embitters, exacerbating all the worst aspects of human nature. Fighting is not without reason considered the most reliable test for each person. Today, all of Ukraine is undergoing this test.
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  1. +17
    5 March 2022 07: 56
    The transition period is over.
    Something is looming on the horizon.
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      1. 0
        6 March 2022 09: 42
        "Be afraid of your desires. They have a habit of coming true.!" (C)
        And for you personally.
        PS You modestly kept silent about such a "marker of the 90s" as a racket. Why would?
        1. +1
          6 March 2022 10: 34
          He is not afraid of racketeering, he managed to grab an AK in Kyiv!
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    2. +5
      6 March 2022 18: 51
      We can only hope for the inclusion of Russian TV channels and a simultaneous decrease in access to the Internet ...

      Russian television is already broadcasting in Kherson and Melitopol. We are waiting for news from there about changes in the heads.
      1. +7
        8 March 2022 17: 24
        No head changes. Ukrainian broadcasting is not on the air. But the cable operators are in full. Nobody wants to watch Russian television except old people. The rest just turn off the TVs. They watch UkrTV on smart TVs. After 30 years of brainwashing their Ukrainians with propaganda, they cannot adequately perceive other information, they are sick of it. It's useless to talk to them. Herd instinct took over the need to get to the bottom of the truth. I tried to explain to them on the fingers the true reasons for these actions of Russia, but ... I understood. Life threatening. Other than threats, no arguments.
        1. 0
          8 March 2022 19: 44
          Literally a couple of three years ago, you would have been torn to pieces for the fact that you wrote forum quapatriots on a heating pad.
    3. +11
      6 March 2022 22: 53
      I don’t know about the world, but Russia will have to change radically. A large and strong public sector, maximum freedom in small and medium-sized businesses, cardinal changes in the management system.
  2. +33
    5 March 2022 07: 58
    There is only one mood, advice to them to learn Russian intensively, I really hope that the Russian leadership will decide to create them on the former territory. Lenin, the republics of Novorossia (Black Sea coast of the South-East), Little Russia (Central part), Lesser Belarus (West of Galicia), the capital of the federation will be in Kharkov.
    1. +80
      5 March 2022 08: 11
      Quote: ancestors from the Don
      There is only one mood, advice to them to study Russian intensively,

      The photo for the article does not convey what is there in reality. But this is a humanitarian aid that they are afraid to receive, but these raguli with flags are not just standing there - they yell "Kharkiv is Ukraine" and beat those who dared to receive that humanitarian aid. And how is this caudle different from the national battalions ??? If an armored personnel carrier is the first to call in and this bastard is immediately and revealingly brought down, I think things will go faster. And they will shoot less in the back
      1. +56
        5 March 2022 08: 15
        I wrote this a few days ago, but I was immediately branded an "officer's daughter." Not everyone is happy there, far from everyone. The last 8 years have not gone unnoticed. Yes, and 30 too.
        1. +58
          5 March 2022 08: 26
          you might think in Chechnya we were more welcome. However, now they are fighting with might and main on our side. As they say, endure, fall in love. It is clear that this is not a fast process.
          1. man
            +15
            5 March 2022 09: 11
            In Chechnya, the situation was different. Many Arab fanatics appeared there and some Chechens realized that they would be dragged into the Middle Ages. Most were soviet people!
            It's been too long...
            1. +17
              5 March 2022 09: 45
              Quote: mann
              In Chechnya, the situation was different. Many Arab fanatics appeared there and some Chechens realized that they would be dragged into the Middle Ages.
              There is also a part of the citizens of Ukraine who not only understood, but felt in their own skin what Bandera's power is and where it drags them. Such an understanding is available to everyone, and not only to Soviet people.
              1. man
                +38
                5 March 2022 10: 10
                In the late 70s, I spent three months in Kharkov and never I didn’t hear Ukrainian speech. I wasn’t interested in the nationality of Kharkovites, but absolutely everyone spoke pure Russian. And when it started, I was sure that Kharkov would definitely support ours ...
                I don't think you should be fooled
                1. +13
                  5 March 2022 11: 19
                  Quote: mann
                  In the late 70s, I spent three months in Kharkov and never heard Ukrainian speech
                  Thats exactly what I mean. Imagine how even an ethnic Ukrainian who was born in Kyiv or in the east of the country feels, forced to abandon his native Russian language and history for the sake of walks ... And an ethnic Russian, looking for reasons to consider himself not Russian, but Ukrainian, trying in vain to please Banderlogs . They are pressed not only by a group of frostbitten marginal Nazis, but by the entire power of the state that supports the Nazis. They will slowly unwind.
                2. +8
                  5 March 2022 11: 49
                  And he will support them anyway, but now what's the point of going out into the square and yelling that the APU get out? It is our orders not to shoot at the lunatics until they are passable.
                3. +5
                  8 March 2022 23: 15
                  Now imagine that in the same seventies +/- 1976, my mother was in a sanatorium in Morshany (Western Ukraine) in the sanatorium itself, there were no longer enough rooms for them and they were settled in the private sector. So there the granny quickly explained everything to them that all the evil is from the damned Muscovites and that they should not dare to take her pears, although they lay under the tree and rotted. How many years have passed since Khrushchev's amnesty? So the conclusions are self-evident...
                  Z.Y. At the memory of this granny, the mother even now somehow gathers herself and becomes tougher and with metal in her voice
            2. Urs
              +8
              5 March 2022 17: 01
              In fact, the difference with the fall of Chechnya into the abyss is no different from the fall into the abyss of the outskirts. Well, probably the difference is in the national color.
              That everything there was based on religious fascism (fahobism is the most aggressive trend in the general flow of Islam) that here (in Ukraine) everything is based on fascism with religious admixture (thomas seizure of churches, etc.). Something something fits the name "ordinary fascism" well unless the color is different. Yes, and different fanatics, what is there, what is enough, well, maybe the color scheme is different. In Chechnya, everything was "taken out" by a strong national leader who could. Yes, to be honest, everything (in Russia) was "taken out" by a strong national leader. Unfortunately, there is no such thing on the outskirts yet, maybe there will be, but we don’t know it.
            3. +2
              8 March 2022 03: 36
              I think the loyalty of the Chechens is based on something else. the key is the assassination attempt on Akhmat Kadyrov. Probably Putin helped to find or investigate who the customer, contractor, etc. the fact that there is blood feud there is no need to convince anyone. on this motive, Putin and Kadyrov became close. Putin is here in the role of a senior mentor. And Kadyrov, who lost his father, appreciated the contribution. Kadyrov will leave and it is not clear what will happen. there is hope that during this time it will be possible to change the minds of the Chechens.
          2. +1
            5 March 2022 14: 14
            also I think
          3. -1
            5 March 2022 18: 30
            Well, yes, not quickly. 20 years for tens of billions of rubles to finance Chechnya. hi
            1. +12
              5 March 2022 23: 19
              I am not a military person and could not know much.
              However, over the past 10 years, I have never heard that radical Islamists penetrated the territory of Russia through Chechnya.
              So, Kadyrov does not give them a pass.
              If I'm right, then the peace of the country is worth the money.
            2. 0
              8 March 2022 03: 37
              these sums, in comparison with subsidies to other regions and autonomies, are not so great.
          4. +2
            6 March 2022 12: 08
            Right. They will also find local lords / lords, who, for a share of power and money, will quickly restore "order", which will consist in following Moscow's instructions and the absence of problems for the Russian Federation. What is going on inside is the tenth thing and few people in the Russian Federation will care.
            So "What about us then?!" there for a long time
          5. +4
            6 March 2022 19: 40
            I have a son-in-law (former, thank God) from Ivano-Frankivsk. He told how they solemnly met the Nazis after their "exploits" in Chechnya. This was long before the Crimean operation! Ramzan came to their soul.
          6. +1
            7 March 2022 05: 34
            In Chechnya, the situation was different. They were just filled with money. Primitively speaking, they gave two solutions: take the money and be for Russia or don't take it, but then we take your head. The Chechens are a harsh people, and they obey the Strong, and Putin showed that he will not babysit, but at the same time, if everything is Quiet, then billions of money will be invested there, and he invested them, but put in the "Watcher" - Kadyrov. With "nenko" this will not work, there the beholder will be needed at every corner.
            This is of course IMHO, but after the operation is over and the Russian army leaves, the Ukrainians themselves will have to disassemble these rubble. More precisely, they will be told, here is FREEDOM for you - do what you want! Yes, at the same time they will take away all the weapons that they can find and that's it. If you want - download, if you want - work, but only weapons will be under a COMPLETE ban and Russian commandant's offices in every city. In general, there will be something like the GDR, but from under the stick of Russia.
            1. 0
              8 March 2022 03: 42
              disagree. nice to be strong. It’s not enough to be rich. There are plenty of such people, but only a few become leaders. It’s a matter of ideology. Ramzan is the son of his father Akhmat. Akhmat Kadyrov was a religious leader (teipism must also be taken into account). The son raised the banner from the hands of his murdered father. I wrote something above..
        2. +22
          5 March 2022 09: 01
          Quote: swzero
          you might think in Chechnya we were more welcome. However, now they are fighting with might and main on our side. As they say, endure, fall in love. It is clear that this is not a fast process.

          That's right, but we have a big plus on that front. Donbass and Lugansk. And all the horrors that the Nazis created will surely be shown to the rest. Also, don't forget about the people who fled Ukraine after 2014. There are a lot of them.
        3. +4
          5 March 2022 09: 22
          Quote: lwxx
          Not everyone is happy there, far from everyone.

          Yes, it was clear for a long time when the closest relatives, Russians, turned away from us
          1. 0
            8 March 2022 03: 46
            the starting point is the books of bald Kuchma. Ukraine tse europ. and away we go. Gongadze, Natsiks ... it's like Mein Kampf .. our ambassadors blew it all. Chernomyrdin was put on a sinecure there, they got a position in the largest republic and nothing needs to be done. Zurabov. He seemed to be thinking about his pocket, and being kicked out of the deputy post, he did nothing else. here they missed.
        4. +8
          5 March 2022 10: 48
          I wrote this a few days ago, but I was immediately branded an "officer's daughter." Not everyone is happy there, far from everyone

          I wrote about it too. At the same time, if until recently half were conditionally happy, now they are only ideological, but they behave very quietly, because they will end that hour.
          1. -1
            6 March 2022 07: 44
            If only a rally was gathered in support of denazification, at least for a picture ... Info we are losing the war with one goal.
            1. +1
              7 March 2022 05: 46
              You don't seem to know what's going on in Russia. In support of Operation Z, motor rallies were held, there were rallies, flash mobs, and all of them were on a voluntary basis: someone on the network threw a cry, they supported him, if necessary, they notified the authorities and forward. Now there are hundreds of videos on the Internet from such events.
      2. +4
        5 March 2022 08: 31
        If an armored personnel carrier is the first to call in and this bastard is immediately and revealingly brought down, I think things will go faster. And they will shoot less in the back

        Those with weapons - yes, and the rest in the camps, closer to Oymikon.
        1. KLV
          +2
          5 March 2022 09: 08
          Oymikon... Where is it?
          1. +3
            5 March 2022 09: 26
            Pole of Cold, Yakutia
            1. KLV
              +6
              6 March 2022 08: 44
              True, but Oymyakon is there, and not Oymikon, as riwas claims.
              1. -4
                6 March 2022 14: 30
                KLV. Oymikon is in the same place, but in a parallel universe. There, deer run backwards, that is, back to back to those deer that on planet Earth run with their hooves to the surface of the Earth. And the Ukrainians were shut up by those same overseas ones who fooled them with glass beads and promised them that the entire parallel universe would belong to Ukraine. There you can kill each other with weapons that never run out of ammunition. Ukraine was unlucky in those days when the Jews, having created a revolution, cut them pieces of land from Russia and called it Ukraine. Then they added from Bukovina, Transcarpathia and Westerners. We don't feel sorry for Nate. And the people of different tribes began to have a brain twist - who is smarter, who should manage the gifts. It got to the point that the underhoofed of Poland began to call themselves pans, and the Bukovinians were called golodrans, the rest were not correct at all, because they did not know what boulbona and gudzul were.
          2. +8
            5 March 2022 16: 43
            Quote: KLV
            Oymikon... Where is it?

            Oymyakon is the future place of compact residence of heroes with lard...
        2. +5
          5 March 2022 09: 25
          Quote: riwas
          yes, and the rest to the camps, closer to Oymikon.

          To Chukotka, in the tundra, to collect reindeer poop.
          I really don’t know why, but you can’t sit idle
          1. 0
            8 March 2022 03: 49
            leave the north alone. there are so many of them and even in the Far East ..
          2. -1
            8 March 2022 12: 31
            Let them grow vineyards, they will grow if they want to live.
      3. +25
        5 March 2022 08: 32
        It is necessary to form in Ukraine from pro-Russian citizens a kind of Yastrebki detachments in the style of 1945 ... they will help very well in the fight against Bandera.
        1. +5
          5 March 2022 16: 48
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          It is necessary to form in Ukraine from pro-Russian citizens a kind of Yastrebki detachments in the style of 1945 ... they will help very well in the fight against Bandera.

          stop These hawks, together with the Kalash, will scatter through the surrounding forests, carrying hemorrhoids on their wings for the Red Army. The police and the Ministry of Emergency Situations from the locals can be, the garrisons - from the CSTO peacekeepers, due to the absence of the Ukrainian army due to "not allowed!" ...
      4. +2
        5 March 2022 09: 20
        Quote: NDR-791
        And how is this caudle different from the national battalions ???

        Only by the fact that some have weapons, the latter wrote down to take it
      5. -2
        5 March 2022 17: 11
        https://t.me/topwar_ru/28723
        How could this happen? Why is there only one armored personnel carrier? etc.
      6. SSR
        +4
        5 March 2022 19: 27
        Quote: sniperino
        Kharkiv is Ukraine" and they beat those who dared to receive that humanitarian aid.

        They would put their snouts into the asphalt and crawl along it well.
        imha,
        If the fascist minority ruled the majority, then people from the LPR and DPR should be put in manual control, they will quickly teach their homeland to love.
        Ps
        The LDNR police will also quickly deal with you.
      7. +3
        6 March 2022 06: 26
        For these two trucks, a sister from Kherson writes that not a single homeless person came up ... They really become ukroigil fanatics there .... who even planned this operation, did they not monitor moods?
        1. +1
          6 March 2022 19: 51
          Quote: Sadam
          For these two trucks, a sister from Kherson writes that not a single homeless person came up ...

          Someone really ideological and there are not a few of them. But the vast majority are still afraid. Suddenly, if the Russian army leaves and everything returns to the previous ... For these gifts, then you have to answer. That's what people think. I know many Ukrainians and they don't care about ideology. If only there was work and money paid. Do you think the workers from Moscow rushed to fight, but to hell with it. And many from Kyiv fled to Poland, Moldova, just to avoid being mobilized. And the majority of those who remained in Ukraine had nowhere to go. So everything will be fine with the mood. It was necessary to turn off the television in the first hours, and it would have been much easier.
      8. 0
        8 March 2022 22: 33
        The photo is not Kharkiv, Kherson 05.03.22. On the other side of the square are Russian soldiers.
        No one was allowed to go to the humanitarian aid, even the elderly.
    2. +24
      5 March 2022 08: 35
      In addition to the army, it is also necessary to introduce the National Guard there so that they disperse anti-Russian rallies. Preferably, from water cannons, and spit on the cries of any Western media. We need to work more actively with local residents, where it is possible to start production, let schools continue to work. Only, we need to correct the programs, remove the ban on the study of the Russian language, it is also necessary to introduce military commandant's offices, actively involve the local police in restoring order, for a start.
      1. +8
        5 March 2022 08: 47
        The people on the streets naturally go crazy ... they do such things that there are simply no words ... sadyugi.
    3. +5
      5 March 2022 11: 03
      And at the same time, do not forget the slogan of all times and rulers "Divide and rule."
      Do not create large conglomerations.
      It is better to create a confederation of republics based on regions.
      Each regional center has its own coat of arms.
      The coat of arms of the city against the background of the flag of the Ukrainian SSR is a ready-made flag of an independent republic.
      The common capital is in Donetsk.
      1. +3
        5 March 2022 16: 40
        ... the slogan is wrong. True: "Unite and rule" if the ruler adheres to the good side.

        What can I prove? And just look at the "patchwork" of Europe with the first and Russia with the second;)
      2. 0
        9 March 2022 14: 09
        Donetsk and Luhansk do not see themselves as part of Ukraine in any case.
    4. +2
      5 March 2022 16: 38
      ... you can leave Kievan Rus in the center.
      1. +1
        5 March 2022 22: 27
        ... you can leave Kievan Rus in the center.
        Hmm, a little historically incorrect!
        When this state formation existed, it was Kievan Rus (by the middle of the 1237th century, it entered a state of feudal fragmentation and actually broke up into a dozen and a half principalities ruled by different branches of the Rurik dynasty. Until the Mongol invasion (1240-1263) Kyiv, which lost its influence in favor of new centers of power, formally continued to be considered the main "table" of Russia, and the Kiev principality remained in the collective possession of the Russian princes), there were other problems in the principality of Moscow (the Grand Duchy of Moscow is a medieval Russian principality that existed from 1478 to XNUMX. Initially, the lot of the Grand Duchy Vladimirsky, who competed with other specific principalities for the grand ducal label issued by the Horde khans). In those years, few people dared to be rude to the governors of the Horde and even call themselves tsar in their own bedroom, it was dangerous for their further health, and there was no centralization with permanent borders...
        1. +4
          6 March 2022 01: 49
          It’s not like that, there is Option No. 2: in real life everything is in ruins, but on the map we calligraphically display: Polovtsy and Pechenegs ...
          1. +1
            6 March 2022 05: 23
            in real life everything is in ruins, but on the map we calligraphically display: Polovtsy and Pechenegs ...
            exactly good and then another 20 years, rewriting history textbooks, and we already see a liberation war with these in 2022 and poor, hungry Kiev children chewing buckwheat porridge, at the side of an armored personnel carrier with the letter "Z"!? lol
          2. 0
            8 March 2022 22: 37
            NOT like this, but like this "This state is not friendly to Russia, and therefore, it should not be on the map."
    5. +1
      5 March 2022 18: 27
      ancestors from the Don (Jedi), Today, 07:58, - "... I really hope that the leadership of Russia will decide to create on the former territory named after Lenin, the republics of Novorossia (Black Sea region of the South-East), Little Russia (Central part), Malaya Belarus (West of Galicia), the capital of the federation will be in Kharkov ... "

      You are RIGHT, THIS is necessary: wink
      1. Without understanding PERSPECTIVE, there will be no GUARANTEE, that raguli will not return, as under Khrushchev, others understand that the "heroes" will receive "gifts" - BSL - 110 and the right to jump to ... to the place of everyday work to restore the national economy and to the rack.. Flies and cutlets are a harmful neighborhood. crying
      2. Leave, wherever there was a word, designation - Oh Krajina. (cards, names or in colloquial speech), it means to CONTINUE with the project of Poland, Austria-Hungary, Nazi Germany and the current Nazis. am If not de jure, then de facto. So ahead AGAIN RAKE (forest brothers). am
      There are historical names for the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia(RF - assignee) and you have used them. good
      3. so-called. NEUTRALITY, see the experience of the so-called. "neutral" European countries. It's like "about the drawbar, WHERE I turned, it went there." De-Sovietization Oh, Krajina in terms of GDP, in THIS variant to the PLACE and even to the point, to the TIME! good
      1. +1
        7 March 2022 05: 53
        did not understand any
      2. 0
        10 March 2022 13: 19
        гла3A broke
    6. -1
      5 March 2022 22: 20
      in the former territory Lenin, the republics of Novorossia (Black Sea region of the South-East), Little Russia (Central part), Lesser Belarus (West of Galicia), the capital of the federation will be in Kharkov.
      However, Peskov declares the opposite, no division of the territories of Ukraine! Here about it is, in the block of news.
      1. +2
        6 March 2022 01: 36
        Peskov said that there would be no invasion of the Russian Armed Forces into Ukraine, but it happened once, probably by accident.
        1. +3
          6 March 2022 19: 56
          Quote: Svidetel 45
          Peskov said there would be no Russian invasion of Ukraine

          As the chief commander said, Peskov is bringing some kind of blizzard. Therefore, it is necessary to listen to him less. Yes
      2. +2
        6 March 2022 09: 54
        With all due respect, Mr. Peskov is a public relation and is not vested with the right to make responsible decisions. The victory over "banderized Ukraine" is the infliction of a military defeat on the current regime and the integration of the population and territory of Ukraine into the "Slavic (Russian WORLD)" without any "liberal snot". I don't know whether Western Ukraine will also be integrated or not. for several generations our ENEMIES (not all but a significant part of it).
  3. +8
    5 March 2022 08: 04
    Perhaps this treatment was needed. But we must make a reservation right away, the Western "friends" led to this. Well, there is nothing to nod at the mirror if the face is crooked.
  4. +18
    5 March 2022 08: 08
    As for being a patriot in exile .. Moldavians, Poles and not only have already braced themselves, especially when they wake up and see the art of these types of patriots, and how they will be treated further is a big question. So spoil those who accepted the country ...
  5. +2
    5 March 2022 08: 15
    Very sensible article.
    1. +1
      5 March 2022 18: 32
      Very sensible article.

      And how here foreign agents from the Kiev MTR were frightened over Kharaluzhny. As it turned out, he survived them all on this site.
  6. +17
    5 March 2022 08: 19
    Quote: lwxx
    I wrote this a few days ago, but I was immediately branded an "officer's daughter." Not everyone is happy there, far from everyone. The last 8 years have not gone unnoticed. Yes, and 30 too.

    Of course, not everyone is happy! These screaming close relatives either were in the ATO or are now there. They are afraid of responsibility. Now, if there were fighters from the DPR or LPR, the picture would be different. Still, the fighters of Donbass have more opportunities to disperse this herd
    1. -3
      5 March 2022 08: 35
      Quote: Vladimir M
      Quote: lwxx
      I wrote this a few days ago, but I was immediately branded an "officer's daughter." Not everyone is happy there, far from everyone. The last 8 years have not gone unnoticed. Yes, and 30 too.

      Of course, not everyone is happy! These screaming close relatives either were in the ATO or are now there. They are afraid of responsibility. Now, if there were fighters from the DPR or LPR, the picture would be different. Still, the fighters of Donbass have more opportunities to disperse this herd


      The Kadyrovskis need to go there. No one needs to be pushed.
      1. +18
        5 March 2022 08: 45
        No Kadyrovtsy is impossible, namely the fighters of the DPR and DPR. But they seem to be busy now and they are not enough. And the Kadyrovites must put out the Nazis.
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        1. +5
          5 March 2022 21: 01
          Quote: Do not care
          Kadyrovtsy are already going home under the index 200


          Who is the fearless one here? Dill uncut?
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            1. +7
              5 March 2022 22: 11
              Quote: Do not care
              Kadyrovtsev surrendered to the FSB. The Ukrainian General Staff receives real-time information from both the Russian General Staff and the FSB. They know where, where, in what composition the columns of Russian troops are advancing.
              There is a massive sabotage of the Russian General Staff and the FSB of this entire military adventure.
              There are still enough smart, honest and decent Officers in the Russian army.


              Shut the hole, you bastard. And wind the forelock on the curlers. I'm interested here. When I write something innocent in the comments, they immediately ban me. And then some * udak has the technical ability to expel his worthless opinion to others. And he has nothing for it? How is that?
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                1. +1
                  5 March 2022 22: 42
                  Quote: Do not care
                  And you think with your flawed cerebellum why they don’t ban


                  Get away from the mirror, you lop-eared. Glad, of course, that you recognized the cerebellum in the reflection. It's yours (sorry, someone should have said this). But there is one problem. Normal people don't think with their cerebellum. But it's useless to explain anything here. Take it for granted - nature rested on you. And several times.
                  1. 0
                    6 March 2022 01: 09
                    Quote: sergo1914
                    Quote: Do not care
                    And you think with your flawed cerebellum why they don’t ban


                    Get away from the mirror, you lop-eared. Glad, of course, that you recognized the cerebellum in the reflection. It's yours (sorry, someone should have said this). But there is one problem. Normal people don't think with their cerebellum. But it's useless to explain anything here. Take it for granted - nature rested on you. And several times.

                    I still don’t understand, to think mozzhechk o m is it a zrada or a victory ?! wassat
                2. -1
                  5 March 2022 22: 44
                  Quote: Do not care
                  And you think with your flawed cerebellum why they don’t ban


                  I won't hold back. One stupid chicken leaked access?
            2. +1
              6 March 2022 01: 42
              Well, yes, dreaming is not harmful, but only useless. But your General Staff certainly works for Russia, look how accurately the “calibers” fall on your bases and warehouses.
        2. 0
          6 March 2022 01: 04
          Quote: Do not care
          Kadyrovtsy are already going home under the index 200

          Are you writing from Moldova or from Poland?! lol in history there were governments in exile, and you are heroes in exile good mice pricked, cried, but continued to eat cactus wassat
      3. 0
        7 March 2022 05: 57
        well, yes, they will see the beard and go ahead and wash the bloomers. Not all, but 60% sure
    2. 0
      6 March 2022 19: 59
      Quote: Vladimir M
      . Still, the fighters of Donbass have more opportunities to disperse this herd

      Most importantly, they have the moral right to do so. They have suffered enough in the Donbass, from such dill patriots.
  7. +6
    5 March 2022 08: 26
    Today, all of Ukraine is undergoing this test.

    Not only verification. But also fair punishment for their actions or inaction.
    I am writing because many consider the population of the former Ukraine to be innocent victims.
    But take even just the election of power. They also had a complete unlimited democracy in all its glory. And who did they choose? And so in everything.
    So if I sympathize with anyone, it’s only for children.
    1. +3
      5 March 2022 08: 36
      Full and unlimited democracy is anarchy. And we choose from what is, from what we are offered. Though in the market, even in the elections. And our choice is often based on information from product advertising. Zelensky, that is, his Goloborodko, looked great. But, as always, they were deceived.
      1. +2
        5 March 2022 08: 38
        And we choose from what is, from what we are offered.

        Then you can't complain about the government.

        I don't even choose. That's why I don't think about blaming the authorities. The people always deserve the power they have.
        1. +4
          5 March 2022 08: 42
          To tear out phrases from a sentence and build a discussion on this is not buzzing.
      2. +4
        5 March 2022 10: 55
        Zelensky, that is, his Goloborodko, looked great.

        I don't know if you have watched this series. Out of curiosity, a year ago, I looked what was there. It turned out that besides this initial obscene "video", thanks to which he was elected president, there is nothing else that can be put on merit and based on this make your choice. I was really amazed that people fell for it so easily.
        1. -2
          5 March 2022 18: 27
          It turned out that besides this initial obscene "video", thanks to which he was elected president, there is nothing else that can be put on merit and based on this make your choice.

          Kghmmm......
          The main thing there is that the president should not steal, and should ride a bicycle to work. The fact that he still has to be able to subdue people and lead the country is omitted (the main message of the series is not to steal).
          And this mental message (not a thief) played in the choice of people (manipulation).
          And the fact that Goloborodko did not have enough brains even to steal, reached people only in the 2nd year of his presidency.)))
      3. 0
        8 March 2022 22: 49
        From that they deceived that there is a herd, you don’t know how to think at all. Since 91, you have been stepping on the same rake.
    2. +8
      5 March 2022 08: 38
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      They also had a complete unlimited democracy in all its glory.

      Full unlimited democracy? This is apparently a joke...
      If democracy is the choice of Yushchenko in the 3rd (!) Round and the receipt of power by a handful of armed people with the support of the United States in February 2014 in Kyiv with a complete cleansing of the objectionable, well then yes ...
      1. +9
        5 March 2022 09: 50
        Quote: Volodin
        Full unlimited democracy? This is apparently a joke...
        If democracy is the choice of Yushchenko in the 3rd (!) Round and the receipt of power by a handful of armed people with the support of the United States in February 2014 in Kyiv with a complete cleansing of the objectionable, well then yes ...

        In Russia, Yegorka Gaidar was once the Prime Minister. When he came to the enterprises of the military-industrial complex with inspections, he was even met with machine-gun bursts ... And a monument was erected to him in Moscow ...
        Chubaisyatin, with his twenty-six CIA officers, carried out the famous privatization, as a result of which the country's industry and enterprises have sunk into oblivion ... His activities are still not appreciated on their merits ... Moreover, he still stinks and gives advice ...
        Deripaska, who gave away Russia's property to some Westerners, gives out recommendations for surviving under sanctions...
        Which of these three examples is attractive in terms of the unification of peoples, in terms of the manifestation of democracy?
        EBN - the main figure responsible for the plundering of the country, is forgotten. And his nine years of existence as the first person (even ashamed to remember this drunkenness) are still embodied in concrete and glass in Yekaterinburg ...
        I don’t think that the issues of the integration of Russia and Ukraine lie on the surface and are subject to the stroke of a pen ... Only people in Ukraine will have to feel with their skin and fibers of their soul (who has left) that the future of both countries is only in cooperation, without frenzied Nazism ... In Russia, people with Ukrainian citizenship were not killed in passing, were they?
    3. +6
      5 March 2022 08: 43
      If we remove the "external influence", because "we are on our own land" (not within the framework of Ukraine's accession to the Russian Federation, but as one people), then we can draw analogies, for example, from 1993 ...
      We also had "democracy" and all of us are also responsible.
      Yes, the majority of Ukrainians preferred not to notice the Russian genocide in the LDNR, but did the majority of Russians in the Russian Federation “notice” this (they didn’t know from the news, but shared the pain, helped ..).

      You need to understand that most of the population is inert, some are afraid. And as a result, strength and organization decide at key moments, after which the propaganda rink turns on (for clarity, you can look at the children leaving the Russian Federation for "no war" - this is only a small edge of such propaganda, we do not take any media "cultural figures" into account - these are regular sales collabs)
      It is hard to correct, surgically, with blood and pain. As a result, now, in order to prevent a "big infection", we have to "cut to the quick." This pain is both Russian and Ukrainian - common, as well as guilt and responsibility.
    4. 0
      6 March 2022 23: 58
      attack Russia will be the same conditionally 4 streams of refugees are completely sides, invalids are fake cripples, patriots, well, and those who meet with bread and salt have always been like this
  8. +26
    5 March 2022 08: 27
    in general Bulgakov. Days of the Trubins, White Guard. They are sitting in Kyiv, the hetman, to whom they swore, either fled or is calling to the front, the nationalists of Petliura are marking the city, in the west the Germans who promised to help but fled. And a wave of Russian infantry rolls uncontrollably from the east. All repeats.
    1. +9
      5 March 2022 14: 18
      It's amazing how sometimes thoughts coincide. Another round of history, again the Ukrainians are at a crossroads. Cossacks-Mazepas-Petrlyurs-Bandera. Now a hat, then a Budenovka, then a forelock, then a bang.
  9. +16
    5 March 2022 08: 35
    Some things are right, some things are wrong. It is necessary to remember those Kievans who in 14 supported Berkut, helped to hide and take their families out of Kyiv in order to protect them from the Nazis.
    "They rushed to the military registration and enlistment offices" - summons came to someone, they came for someone, and without really letting them get together, they took them "to the army."
    Yes, in the ranks of the "Kiev intelligentsia" there is an opinion that "because of the internal conflict (meaning Donbass), bringing in troops is too much." These ones will definitely shit on the sly and help the Nazis.
    Not everyone who acquired weapons went to marauders. Family protection comes first. Well, someone will help the Russian army.
    Another difficulty is that Kyiv is mostly Russian-speaking, and it will be very difficult to find out here who is for and who is against.
    So far, all gas stations are closed - there is no gasoline. Transport is not running. There are almost no products. The post office has just opened, even pensions will be issued, but people are afraid to go and receive them because of those same marauders. They hit the granny at the exit from the post office and the pension is gone!
    In Kyiv and the Kiev region, a curfew has been introduced and blackouts are required. Everyone says "they will bomb". The fear-mongering is in full swing.
    1. +2
      5 March 2022 14: 25
      I recognize the mood only from those who have relatives there. A colleague has a brother there, a friend also has an aunt, and so on. In the general mood - everything would end faster, stability came. And yet, they gravitate more towards the Russian Federation, those about whom I am writing are not 100% ... but still they would like to see the Russian Federation in power
  10. +4
    5 March 2022 08: 42
    Quote: vervolk
    in general Bulgakov. Days of the Trubins, White Guard. They are sitting in Kyiv, the hetman, to whom they swore, either fled or is calling to the front, the nationalists of Petliura are marking the city, in the west the Germans who promised to help but fled. And a wave of Russian infantry rolls uncontrollably from the east. All repeats.

    Now it's like a tragedy of people fooled by Europeans, pseudo-democracy and the freedom to spoil their neighbor as pseudo-national pride. fool
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    1. +4
      5 March 2022 11: 55
      In some sense, Kyiv 3. In the so-called Ukraine, on any issue. There will be 3 opinions. Third for . Third against. And a third to hell. This is due to a lot of things. From nationalities to historical events. Just one third crushes another third. And now the opinion has become more. This happened at different times and not just once. George Orwell, real name Eric Arthur Blair. Born in the territory occupied by England. All his life he worked in the civil service. Worked for the state. And he died in his hand holding a list of unreliable. But he wrote about excesses, in the present and future. Rotten world, what can we do.
    2. 0
      5 March 2022 13: 34
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      One is the one I visit sometimes. And personally taken photos, as well as quotes from conversations with the people of Kiev, confirm this.
      The second - some of the works of Orwell, well, or from the fairy tale "The Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors".

      On February 25, Kharaluzhny was published here with a patriotic article "Opinion of a Kievan: Those who are waiting remained in Kyiv" and specifically "Alarmists and "patriots" fled. Those who were forced to see Russian enemies since 2014, but could not be forced. "
      https://topwar.ru/192754-kiev-ostalis-te-kto-zhdet.html
      And now caps don’t fly into the air like that ... Grachev remembered
  12. +6
    5 March 2022 08: 50
    Ukraine is going through cleansing by fire. There will be a lot of blood and pain. All the people will have to answer for the crime in Donbass. So that a person does not die with gangrene, the diseased part of the body is removed. It's the same here. Some of the patients will have to be destroyed so that the country begins to live normally. It is a pity for our guys who laid down their heads. How many more will there be. But we must persevere and persevere! We have no other option!
  13. +14
    5 March 2022 08: 55
    As for the duration of this period, for the time being, for the ukrov, everything looks like fighting is going on somewhere. Maybe even peremohaem Muscovites. In the south, the Russian army spreads out, mostly bypassing the cities. That is, there is some kind of movement, but it is not very clear where. Nevertheless, Kharkov will be completely taken from day to day. In Mariupol, it seems that a humanitarian catastrophe is developing, which means that soon there will either be a surrender or an assault with the maximum possible forces, so that KAMAZ trucks with food, water and medicines will follow immediately behind the tanks. You can't pull there.

    In the Donbass, or rather around it, Russian troops formed an encirclement front in the early days. Now this is over, which means that more Russian units will be able to take part directly in the battles, and the encircled people will simply soon run out of coolies with diesel fuel. It must be understood that a battery of howitzers shoots a wagon of shells, how naughty to do. And if these wagons do not fit, then the fuel is only in the tanks, and the shells are only in the ammunition rack. You won't fight here physically for a long time. I don't think the cauldron will survive until the end of the 2nd week of surgery. And then the actual mass surrender will begin. We, who are not directly involved in this event, can only wait.

    After that, the Ukrainian population, for whom the Internet has not been turned off for the most part, will simply be confronted with the fact that Kharkov has been taken, Mariupol has been taken, and there are columns of prisoners in the Donbass. It will no longer be possible to broadcast in such conditions about the victory and move cities to the border on the maps.
    1. -2
      5 March 2022 10: 59
      or an assault with the maximum possible forces, so that immediately behind the tanks

      Do you propose to repeat the New Year's assault on Grozny? It will fail here and there.
  14. +3
    5 March 2022 08: 56
    Quote: Thrifty
    to restore order to the local police, for starters.

    the local police after the 14th year was lustred and I think there is little that is sane left.
    1. +6
      5 March 2022 09: 07
      Quote: gurzuf
      the local police after the 14th year was lustred and I think there is little that is sane left.

      And so to find those who were "illustrated". And involve them in the "local police"
      1. +1
        5 March 2022 10: 40
        Quote: Egoza
        And so to find those who were "illustrated". And involve them in the "local police"

        They will not go to the police, before they were only "illustrated", but now they will be killed. We all know what happened in Western Ukraine after 1944, and how many policemen died. And now Bandera. not only in Western Ukraine, but also spread throughout Ukraine.
  15. +3
    5 March 2022 08: 58
    The situation in Ukraine is Karma.
    As long as it goes demilitarization, it is necessary to think about denazification.
    Humanitarian aid should be given only to children, women, and the elderly.
    Men of military age must earn their bread without any exceptions. There are many options - restoration work, participation in pro-Russian rallies, and, most importantly, participation in "friendship" caravans to those cities where anti-Russian sentiments are strong.
    The formation of "friendship" trains and caravans from Russia and Belarus, Donbass to the most Russophobic cities, with the local population being strongly involved in pro-Russian actions.
    1. +3
      5 March 2022 11: 01
      Humanitarian aid should be given only to children, women, and the elderly.

      Definitely. Only the most vulnerable section of the population. Although, Ukrainian men are against it, judging by the minus.
      Well, no friendship trains are needed.
  16. -1
    5 March 2022 09: 05
    The old hurray-promises did not work, new explanations and promises are being urgently printed.
    Style of "effective managers"
  17. Two
    0
    5 March 2022 09: 08
    It's a pity the forests in the west of Ukraine were mowed down. There is nowhere to hang out now.
  18. +4
    5 March 2022 09: 47
    It is necessary to tune in to a long struggle for minds. For 30 years people have been hammered into their heads that Russia is an enemy
  19. +5
    5 March 2022 10: 18
    The main thing is the result! Once a business has been started, it is necessary to bring what has been started to its logical end, to do everything qualitatively and, if possible, quickly. If this happens, then Europe will shit in his pants and become our friend, BEST friend, it is not the first time she changes shoes on the fly. If we start to change and mumble, we will immediately lose the respect of the whole world.
  20. +4
    5 March 2022 10: 34
    Some of them, especially those who are far away from the suddenly dangerous Motherland, continue to position themselves as ardent patriots, chanting the slogans “Glory to Ukraine” and staining the walls and fences in the yellow and blue colors of “national pride”. After all, it is so convenient, and most importantly safe - to be a "patriot in exile."

    These "exiles" who are abroad behave like heroes. Videos appeared on YouTube, how in Moldova these "refugees" in cafes and shops are indignant that they are talking to them in the "Moskal language", one even made the Moldovan shout "butter" to which he sent him away in Romanian. I heard the same thing in Tallinn. The locals already understand that these refugees create more problems than refugees from the Middle East and Africa, who know their place and work silently, but these will not work, but they have already begun to rally.
    1. +3
      5 March 2022 13: 31
      refugees from the Middle East and Africa who know their place and work silently
      Where? belay
      1. +3
        5 March 2022 14: 05
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Where?

        In Britain, they have become insolent, you pay them a lot, but in our country they are paid 90 euros a month, so they work and are silent, but we don’t have hundreds of thousands of them like you do. Yes, and the policy of the Conservative Party, which opposes migrants: it is supported by more than half of the population, and migrants also know this.
        1. +3
          5 March 2022 14: 12
          we pay them 90 euros a month
          They will receive the documents and go to Sweden. it was this approach that caused Brexit - they received papers in Italy and Greece and came here as Italians and Greeks.
          1. +3
            5 March 2022 14: 28
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            they received papers in Italy and Greece and came here as Italians and Greeks.

            They did a good job, to say the least. It’s cold here, it’s not for them to go to us, and those who receive a document from us go where they pay more, so there are 10 times fewer of them than gasters.
  21. +1
    5 March 2022 10: 56
    Let it come that lace underpants do not warm those places that tend to freeze.
  22. +3
    5 March 2022 12: 11
    Russia's military victory in Ukraine is only the first step. Next is the most difficult stage of the integration of Ukrainian society back into the "Russian World". It is necessary to solve many problems: changing the vector of development of society from "Ukraine - tse-Europe" to - We are together "Slavic brotherhood - victorious peoples"; The change of the ruling class, the organization of the electoral process for the entry into power of pro-Russian forces; Gradual replacement of municipal and regional authorities, deputies at all levels of government, change of government and president. Change of legislation and revision of many articles of the constitution of Ukraine. In parallel, it is necessary to resolve the issue of the activities and orientation of the media and television, the place and significance of the Russian language in the lives of citizens, its significance in everyday life and official office work (and there should be no "liberal snot" here).
    Revision of school education programs, higher and medium-special education. Restoration of destroyed housing, social infrastructure, industry. Restoration of production chains within Ukraine, as well as the integration of Ukrainian industry into the production chains of the Union State. Solving property issues and much, much more. The most important thing is that we, Russia, must give a point of support to the citizens of Ukraine. Russia has returned to Ukraine forever, and we are all united by our common great past and common victories over enemies. We are victorious nations together. Ideology, no matter how it is abandoned in the upper echelons of power, plays a crucial role in the attitude of peoples and countries in this world. If people feel like losers, then they are only able to fulfill someone else's will, obeying the occupier. If people believe that they were helped to free themselves from corrupt power and they are also winners, then integration into a new life will happen quickly and least painfully.
  23. +3
    5 March 2022 13: 42
    the national battalions brutalized the people, took hostage some of the population, also like dogs, they rush at everything that moves, angry, and very few still hold on and can’t wait until the Russian army finally resolves the issue with the liberation of Ukrainians from this green plague.
    1. -2
      5 March 2022 13: 48
      The problem is that the majority of Ukrainians do not really want to be freed yet, but just want it all to end. It doesn't matter how...
  24. 0
    5 March 2022 13: 48
    However, after the first ten days of the military operation in Ukraine, it becomes clear that nothing will end quickly, that it will all be much more difficult and much longer than expected on both sides.
    . The obvious. Will the "hot phase" end, as they say, and what will follow?
    Peace and tranquility will not come soon, but it must be finished.
    That everything was logical, understandable and had perspectives!!!
    People will understand, and everyday worries, which will be MANY, will provide an opportunity to escape from that ... yes, from MUCH.
    Not everyone will accept what has come and how the return to peaceful life will take place is still impossible to guess. It is necessary to look at everything, try it, and then it will be possible to evaluate what is happening.
  25. -2
    5 March 2022 14: 11
    Unfortunately, we are losing. They leave the equipment, the teroboronists capture it, upload the video. Attacking supply columns. They still have a lot of equipment and they will fight hard, especially the national battalions. Many of our prisoners, alas. This is war.
  26. 0
    5 March 2022 15: 31
    If there is no Ukrainian Kadyrov, there will be an asshole. It will not work to leave the population uncontrolled in the "cleansed territory", everything will start anew.
  27. +1
    5 March 2022 16: 54
    Nothing should depend on the mood of the Ukrainians. The operation must be completed in the military unit, and then the mood will change. Those who took up arms and resisted should be destroyed. Those who surrendered should be chipped and sent to restore Donbass.
    1. +1
      6 March 2022 15: 48
      hello new hitler
      1. 0
        6 March 2022 15: 53
        Hitler restored Donbass?
        1. 0
          6 March 2022 16: 00
          Has anyone restored it? Yes, and that's not what we're talking about.
  28. -7
    5 March 2022 17: 15
    - Yes, there is no need to raise the "humanitarian theme" today, the theme of "brainwashed", the theme of "stoned Natsiks"; talk about - "how to equip Ukraine later" (essentially "share the skin of an unkilled bear"), and so on. - Today, everything must be concentrated only on military affairs. - Cancel all entertainment programs in Russia (and on March 8 - "postpone for later") and even introduce martial law in Russia (I personally would support our president in this) !!! - - Yes, yes - even introduce martial law in Russia! - Exactly ! - I don’t want to be considered an alarmist - but everything is very serious in order to - scoff and flaunt! - Today we need only successful military operations!!! - And all these "humane deeds" - all this "mercy" will then be "recorded" - and only if there is a complete victory !!!
    1. +1
      6 March 2022 01: 41
      Quote: gorenina91
      - Yes, there is no need to raise the "humanitarian theme" today, the theme of "brainwashed", the theme of "stoned Natsiks"; talk about - "how to equip Ukraine later" (essentially "share the skin of an unkilled bear"), and so on. - Today, everything must be concentrated only on military affairs. - Cancel all entertainment programs in Russia (and on March 8 - "postpone for later") and even introduce martial law in Russia (I personally would support our president in this) !!! - - Yes, yes - even introduce martial law in Russia! - Exactly ! - I don’t want to be considered an alarmist - but everything is very serious in order to - scoff and flaunt! - Today we need only successful military operations!!! - And all these "humane deeds" - all this "mercy" will then be "recorded" - and only if there is a complete victory !!!

      Irina, sometimes it seems to me, when reading you, that you throw in slogans and then analyze the reaction feel mood psychoanalysis wassat
      1. +1
        6 March 2022 15: 51
        Martial law in Russia? Yeah, now, only self-military, or something like that. Or do you believe that the government is responsible for something?
  29. 0
    5 March 2022 17: 22
    It's all about EDUCATION! They were taught to hate Russians, and we were taught to love "Western civilization", and "Ivan who does not remember kinship" is the result of the Unified State Examination. And who planted it?
    1. +2
      5 March 2022 20: 31
      Quote: Larisa Levenchik
      Russians, and love us "Western civilization", and "Ivan who does not remember kinship" is the result of the Unified State Examination. And who planted it?

      A certain kudrin with comrades
  30. +3
    5 March 2022 17: 27
    I can’t understand one thing, why UKroTV was shut up only four days after the start of the special operation. An absolute miscalculation, because it drove many to insanity, they flooded the military registration and enlistment office on adrenaline and went to fight the invaders.
    1. +2
      6 March 2022 01: 47
      Quote: Bormental
      I can’t understand one thing, why UKroTV was shut up only four days after the start of the special operation. An absolute miscalculation, because it drove many to insanity, they flooded the military registration and enlistment office on adrenaline and went to fight the invaders.

      Yes, I agree, they did not use the precepts of Ilyich 1917 Petrograd, take mail, telephone, telegraph good
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  32. 0
    5 March 2022 20: 30
    Quote: Stepan S
    Do you propose to repeat the New Year's assault on Grozny?

    There is the Syrian experience of taking cities with little destruction, a couple of Tunguskas point-shooting for each shot, a tank in cover, infantry for stripping, quadrocopters with cameras for aiming ..
    1. -2
      5 March 2022 20: 32
      Kyiv so take?
      How old are you anyway?
      1. 0
        5 March 2022 20: 54
        I’m mocking .. But I still have to storm Kyiv, and until the hands of the command reach him, the people’s militia of Donbass will be released ..
    2. +2
      5 March 2022 21: 52
      No one will storm the city, we still have to live in them and rebuild what was destroyed. The environment, the corridors will come out of hunger themselves, it is possible to close urban areas and, by flowing from one area to another, filter the population from criminals, marauders and Nazis, and that’s all. The main methods of cross-filtering are to work out.
  33. +3
    5 March 2022 21: 47
    Personally, even from the beginning of their independence, it became clear to me from the videos broadcast in the news in the Russian Federation that they are glad that they will not succeed in any state, but only a circus, cut and sebe to the hut. Separately and / or heavily diluted with other nationalities, Ukrainians are talented, resourceful, economical and inventive. But in large monogroups, this is, excuse me, but a herd of stubborn sheep with zero understanding of the general problem and its solution. Which was confirmed by the result of the existence of the country of error 404. In the future, all key posts up to the beginning of the stronghold of the police, in my opinion, should be occupied by Russians, Belarusians, anyone but not Ukrainians, because well, they cannot manage and understand sovereignty and imperial character no in our genes. We think in categories - to make it better for everyone, and they are only sebe. Here, on the lower chains of society and with control over their big brother decisions, this only sebe works well for the good of the whole country, but only with control and a mechanism for canceling a Ukrainian’s decision by a big brother mentor, it’s worth leaving decisions affecting many Ukrainians without control - always crap it turned out to be nonsense (hello to the corn maker and his proteges, fellow countrymen later).
  34. +4
    5 March 2022 22: 01
    I have written more than once about the fact that they are more afraid of their military than Russians. That is, yes, press the TV on them that the Russians came to kill them, but they can go to a rally against the Russians and make some noise, but not a single Ukrainian will swear with his warriors if they put art in their yard, because they are stupid shoot.
    But still, the Russians are to blame for everything.
  35. +1
    5 March 2022 22: 55
    Weak article, to be honest, I expected something more. They didn’t touch upon the moral aspects, within the Ukrainian society (if you can call it that), for example, how they started to gnaw each other there, they didn’t analyze how the latest regulations affected their lives in the last 10 days, they didn’t show the impact on their views , the current political, economic situation. What was the meaning of this scripture? Someone understood? Go like this, throw it on the fan? ...
  36. +1
    6 March 2022 00: 30
    The situation shows that the Russian authorities were counting on the support of the population, which, in fact, did not turn out to be.
    We counted on the fact that the APU would quickly lose control and crumble.
    Therefore, the first days of the war are some kind of attempt to cosplay the liberation campaign of 39.
    As a result, very serious losses were incurred.
    Now it seems that some conclusions have been made, but nevertheless the enemy turned out to be much stronger than planned. The case is starting to look like a Finnish one. Here's my word of honor, I'll be glad if someone dispels my worries
    1. +1
      6 March 2022 02: 04
      Quote: certero
      The situation shows that the Russian authorities were counting on the support of the population, which, in fact, did not turn out to be.
      We counted on the fact that the APU would quickly lose control and crumble.
      Therefore, the first days of the war are some kind of attempt to cosplay the liberation campaign of 39.
      As a result, very serious losses were incurred.
      Now it seems that some conclusions have been made, but nevertheless the enemy turned out to be much stronger than planned. The case is starting to look like a Finnish one. Here's my word of honor, I'll be glad if someone dispels my worries

      we lost the info field and this is a fact, and we will sum up the results, according to the results feel
      1. +2
        6 March 2022 05: 14
        I agree that it is too early to draw conclusions. but every photo or video showing a downed Russian plane or a destroyed Russian convoy hits our economy. And the West adds courage. It would be interesting to read some serious analysis of Western experts on the ongoing operation
  37. +3
    6 March 2022 01: 01
    Kiev will not get high. You will have to pay for a Muscovite and a Gilyak. They may let them into Europe, but without babosiks. In Russia, only technical specialists as needed. Everything else will be on their own, and will begin with the capture and landing. It's called denationalization. All according to the lists of the prosecutor's office. Russian.
  38. +2
    6 March 2022 02: 15
    I don't know about the views "from Kyiv" (go to Kyiv and ask how Mikhail Samyuelevich Panikovsky said), but the American media and ESPECIALLY the emigrant media like the NEW "Russian" word say the following. Naturally, I don’t believe in this nonsense and nonsense, but 80% of immigrants and 90% of Americans believe.
    a) Russia suffered losses of more than 10000 killed.
    b) Ukrainian ace "Ghost of Kyiv" continues to shoot down Russian planes. already "knocked down" 8 pieces.
    c) The Russian offensive is stopped and the Russians are about to be thrown back, right up to Moscow. Kyiv, Kharkov and others are impregnable fortresses where residents, even women, buy rifles to shoot at Russians from the window (Really they showed some kind of woman from Kyiv who bought an M16 and said in RUSSIAN how she would kill Russian Nazis).
    d) "The West is with Ukraine", that "progressive democratic humanity" is EVERYTHING WITH Ukraine (they don't lie too much here, all drink .. facebook and shitter, in the sense of twitter is covered with avatars of Ukrainian flags).
    e) As soon as Ukraine gets enough MANPADS, ATGMs, artillery and ammunition, freedom-loving Ukrainians will push back the "Russian aggressors" as far as Moscow, possibly the Urals, and bring freedom and democracy to the Russian people languishing under Putin's tyranny.
    f) Evil Russians use napalm, white phosphorus and cluster munitions only in residential areas. They are afraid to bomb the Ukrainian army and the national battalions, because those have stingers, against which Russian planes are defenseless. Therefore, they are engaged in terror.
    g) All over America - demonstrations in favor of Ukraine. (Yes, showed two dozen idiots in Milwaukee).
    h) American voters ALL AS ONE (type) asked Biden to introduce a no-fly zone over Ukraine, as they did in Syria and Iraq.
    i) Russian oligarchs, starting with Deripaska and Tinkov, have turned their backs on Putin, and soon the oligarchs, admirers of capitalism, freedom and market economy, will overthrow Putin. By the way, it seems that Tinkov said something about the fact that "he does not support Putin."

    That's about it. You are demonized in such a way that Dr. Goebbels would shed tears of tenderness. By the way, the demonization of RUSSIAN NEVER stopped. When there was less (all Russians are mafiosos), when there were more (Russian hackers rigged the elections and therefore Trump won), etc., etc. The number of films where the main bastards are Russians is even more films where the main bastards are Al Qaeda.

    Today one of the patients, a veteran of the Vietnam War, a marine, started to roll a cart at me "Again you, Russian savages, have taken up your own, you want to enslave the whole of Europe and cover it with Gulags" radiation that he will give you. As Sifu Spivey said - "Before you open your mouth and run into someone - think, you don't know what's going on in the brain of a person, you don't know if he has a gun or a knife or something under his jacket, and you don't corny you know maybe tomorrow you will come to the interview, but this person is taking the interview from you.Moreover, you never know how close the person is to the fact that he broke the thread and he shot everyone he can, starting with you.Don't be the straw that broke camel's back (yes, in English there is such an expression - straw that broke the camel's back)
  39. +3
    6 March 2022 02: 48
    By the way, in pursuit ... If you destroyed all the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who shot down the Su-34, Su-30 and Su-25 in addition in the last 24 hours? Martians? Ghosts of the Luftwaffe? All 3 were shot down by anti-aircraft fire, air defense crews of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Did you boast that you destroyed Banderostan's air defense with "high-precision weapons"? Who knocks Sushki? Stingers? SU-34 and SU-30 don't fly that low. This means that Ragulestan still has air defense systems. By the way, according to the news, a column of Russian troops was destroyed north of Kyiv. "The Russian aggressors abandoned the burnt equipment and ran to surrender, since they have no provisions, fuel and ammunition" - that's about what was transmitted to the United States on the news. Showed the wreckage of the SU... at least one. with a red star.
    How did you "destroy" Banderlogia's air defense if they are shooting down the latest Russian Air Force aircraft?
    1. 0
      6 March 2022 03: 10
      su 34 - it was stated by the Ukrainian side itself that "Strela" (there are no stingers at all)
      su 25 - MANPADS (which one is unknown)
      su 30 - as I understand it, shot down at an altitude of 6000 m, probably beech / s 300

      there were also helicopters - there is also a MANPADS.
      So full-fledged air defense shot down only su 30 (probably)
    2. +1
      6 March 2022 09: 38
      What is the weather like in Warsaw? Everything about the return of the Lublin Seim you dream of from May to May. There will be no such thing.
  40. +1
    6 March 2022 09: 03
    Quote: NDR-791
    Quote: ancestors from the Don
    There is only one mood, advice to them to study Russian intensively,

    The photo for the article does not convey what is there in reality. But this is a humanitarian aid that they are afraid to receive, but these raguli with flags are not just standing there - they yell "Kharkiv is Ukraine" and beat those who dared to receive that humanitarian aid. And how is this caudle different from the national battalions ??? If an armored personnel carrier is the first to call in and this bastard is immediately and revealingly brought down, I think things will go faster. And they will shoot less in the back

    It is too late now to look for those responsible for the radicalization and Ukrainization of Kharkiv residents. At 14 there were pro-Russian rallies, inscriptions and posters on the walls "Kharkov Ukraine!" Who recognized the legitimacy of the Maydan government in practice!? Fighting it on a TV show? Who legitimized Poroshenko? Who dragged on for 8 years with the recognition of Donbass and economically allowed the Nazis to strengthen their power? In 14, Russian troops in Kharkov would have been greeted with flowers! But "Road spoon to dinner!' And to eliminate these mistakes, they will put thousands of boys, by the way, from both sides.
  41. +2
    6 March 2022 09: 36
    The Russians in Novorossiya must be clearly told from the highest podium. Comrades, we have returned and we will never leave. You will see, then they will tell us Ours have come. We are now disappointed, why don’t they meet us with flowers, but because they don’t believe us that we won’t leave and are afraid of the return of the old banderlogs. If they believe then the banderlogs will not go.
  42. 0
    6 March 2022 11: 07
    We are not at war with the Ukrainians, not even with the Nazis. We are at war with the collective West, which owns the world through Finns. system and printing press. This is a war to the death. It’s bad that they managed to translate the words of Brzezinski,
    But how to defeat someone else's printing press. Colonial system updated for new demagogy about rights etc.
  43. +2
    6 March 2022 11: 18
    The majority, just a little, will again put pots on bad heads and climb to ride on the Maidan, why don't you feel sorry for them, the lives of our guys are more expensive. We must give an order to Ramzan Akhmadovich and turn away ...
  44. 0
    6 March 2022 11: 32
    Quote: ole1
    su 34 - it was stated by the Ukrainian side itself that "Strela" (there are no stingers at all)
    su 25 - MANPADS (which one is unknown)
    su 30 - as I understand it, shot down at an altitude of 6000 m, probably beech / s 300

    there were also helicopters - there is also a MANPADS.
    So full-fledged air defense shot down only su 30 (probably)


    well, you need to understand that infa and proofs are Ukrainian, so all this is probabilistic. Maybe a staging. you can't trust these Ukrainian pretzels
  45. 0
    6 March 2022 11: 40
    An attempt to justify our actions? A new law for those who disagree, even though they are few in number. Very interesting, provided that all this would not have been connected with tragic events.
  46. 0
    6 March 2022 12: 11
    The turn has come for these bastards to drink the cup of grief, shame and deprivation. We wish them success in this difficult but just cause. Let them experience the wishes of their ex in their own skin - how it is to sit in basements. Like not going to schools and restaurants. How is it to wait for a high-rise building to fall on your head.
  47. 0
    6 March 2022 12: 16
    Quote: Baron Pardus
    By the way, in pursuit ... If you destroyed all the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who shot down the Su-34, Su-30 and Su-25 in addition in the last 24 hours? Martians? Ghosts of the Luftwaffe? All 3 were shot down by anti-aircraft fire, air defense crews of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Did you boast that you destroyed Banderostan's air defense with "high-precision weapons"? Who knocks Sushki? Stingers? SU-34 and SU-30 don't fly that low. This means that Ragulestan still has air defense systems. By the way, according to the news, a column of Russian troops was destroyed north of Kyiv. "The Russian aggressors abandoned the burnt equipment and ran to surrender, since they have no provisions, fuel and ammunition" - that's about what was transmitted to the United States on the news. Showed the wreckage of the SU... at least one. with a red star.
    How did you "destroy" Banderlogia's air defense if they are shooting down the latest Russian Air Force aircraft?

    So show at least NOT ONE with a red star, and keep talking. Until you show, you are a liar, and your price is zero. Equal to the cost of ink on the certificate - "buried there."
  48. +2
    6 March 2022 16: 03
    In my opinion, after the liberation of the territories, the most severe control is needed, all pro-Western bastards must be taken out in an unknown direction, and not only those who jump openly, but also those who supported the junta invaders online ...
    1. +2
      6 March 2022 19: 19
      Quote: Incvizitor
      In my opinion, after the liberation of the territories, the most severe control is needed, all pro-Western bastards must be taken out in an unknown direction, and not only those who jump openly, but also those who supported the junta invaders online ...

      agree good but it had to be done yesterday!
  49. +1
    6 March 2022 18: 08
    And what were the moods of the Ukrainians when for 8 years they shelled the Donbass, peaceful neighborhoods every day, killed civilians and children? After all, it is impossible to blame everything on the nationalists, it is a very convenient position to kill people because of a distorted reality and blame the nationalists for everything. There were more than a hundred thousand fighters in the ranks of the APU. For 3000 days, with daily shelling of 200 shells and mines every day, this is from 600 thousand to 1 million, rather more, ammunition of various powers fired at the civilian population. Recently, from 1000 to 4 thousand per day. What were their moods for these 8 years? They were warned that there were no Russian units there as they shouted that they were fighting the Russian army. I would like to ask now, did you fight with this army for eight years? And now the persuasion and calls for prudence are over. The Ukrainians themselves started a war and genocide against their own people, and from their distorted reality for some, for others, from hatred came to a dirty bomb against Russia. They became a tool for attacking the Russian world. As long as Russia does not eradicate this evil from the cities of Ukraine, there is nothing good to expect. A new reality is coming for the whole west. While Russia is busy with Ukraine, the entire transgender community has time to think.
    1. -1
      8 March 2022 12: 51
      I think they didn't give a shit, they don't touch me, I feel good.
  50. 0
    7 March 2022 14: 41
    The protracted Maydaun in the minds of Ukrainians has weaned them off from thinking! "What are we for?" - and do not include brains in work. And for 8 years of shelling of Donbass and Lugansk region!
  51. 0
    9 March 2022 14: 12
    We had a commentator under the nickname Bshkaus. He recently moved from Russia to Ukraine. I would like to know his opinion, despite all the disagreement on many positions. Didn't he go to other branches? Is he actually alive and well? Or is he most likely not in the mood to be on the site now?
  52. 0
    9 March 2022 15: 14
    Well, the occupation is what it is.