The Kyiv delegation announced the minimum program in the negotiations with Russia

On the way to the second round of peace talks between Kiev and Moscow, the Kyiv delegation announced a minimum program for negotiations with Russia. The key issue of the meeting will be the discussion of the creation of humanitarian corridors for local residents to evacuate from Ukrainian cities surrounded by the Russian Armed Forces.

David Arakhamia, one of Kyiv's representatives at the talks, wrote about this on his Facebook page.

The minimum program is humanitarian corridors. Further - according to the circumstances

- he said.

At the time of publication of the post, the Ukrainian delegation was on board a helicopter heading to the meeting point in the Brest region of Belarus.

The Belarusian side has prepared everything for the meeting. The delegation from Russia has been waiting for the Kiev negotiators since yesterday. First, the negotiations were postponed to the morning, then to 15.00. And only closer to five o'clock in the evening, according to information TASS, helicopters with the Ukrainian delegation arrived.

Moscow assumes that the Ukrainian representatives are simply playing for time. Today, Russian President Vladimir Putin also mentioned this in a conversation with the French leader. He said that Kiev's delay in negotiations could lead to Moscow expanding the list of its demands.

Initially, it was supposed to hold the second round in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, but the Ukrainian delegation demanded to change the location. True, then she “changed her anger to mercy” and agreed to meet where it was originally planned. Negotiations have begun. The parties shook hands...

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[Tank jacket]

Is that the one with trench lice in a baseball cap?

[Tank jacket]

The junkies are stoned... Russian President Vladimir Putin is not waiting for agreements with the "gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis" who have settled in Kyiv. The head of the Russian state called on the Ukrainian military to take power into their own hands.

[Retvizan 8]

I agree with you, this Arakhami demonstrated to the whole world how bully the level of Ukrainian power is.
It looked as if the brothers from the provincial village were going to collect bribes from a round-the-clock stall ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Retvizan 8

It looked as if the brothers from the provincial village were going to collect bribes from a round-the-clock stall ...

Although he is not a KVNschik, but look - what an inspired clown face!

[vervolk]

let them pull, in the end they will reach the point that these:

[Orange bigg]

Why should we play for time? Do we want to wait for UN peacekeepers? Kyiv is not just dragging on time, but what are we waiting for, what are we chewing snot? Is this a war or a championship showing nobility? We can’t get bogged down here. time and the situation will get out of control.

[vervolk]

Well, time is now working for Russia. The operation continues, the troops are advancing, reinforcements, roadblocks, territory control. We figured out the air defense and fortified areas, got our hands on the TV towers and radio towers. Every day. with every hour of anarchy and weakness, Ukrainians are increasingly losing faith in the ability to maintain militaristic and Nazi power. The resources of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were already limited, and every minute they are melting like snow under the sun. The most stubborn and defensive-minded lose their morale and faith in success. Just remember history. The most motivated and frostbitten parts of the SS at 45 were ready to drape to the west and surrender to the Americans in order to save their skins. And there was not enough motivation to make them fight steadfastly. They simply did not believe in success against the Soviet army. Can you imagine what is going on in the minds of the Nazis now: how? why? was it good though? we are the best army in Europe?! how can we lose to cotton wool and Muscovites? they are in shock and awe. Let them get a little bit in the spirit of defeat. Well, in the end, any offensive has its own pace. We need to reorganize, pull up reserves, get replenishment, fuel, supplies, take out the wounded. If you notice the offensive always comes in "jerks", in jumps for this very reason. And don't worry about any peacekeepers there - except for peacekeepers from Belarus, Nicaragua, Cuba or Myanmar, Russia will not allow any other peacekeepers. Although the UN, at least not the UN, in its sphere of interests, only Russia decides who to peace and who to denazify

[Awaz]

every day of the war, these are victims not only in the troops but also among the civilian population and the destruction of infrastructure. This is exactly what the Ukrainian authorities need. They don’t need a victory, it’s more important for them to spoil their cities as much as possible, and then when the Russians leave, they all blame and complain, etc. ...
you just compare the rhetoric of the Russian authorities on February 24 and today .. You will see striking disagreements. And why would it suddenly, if everything is going well?

[mikh-korsakov]

Just listened to Putin's speech. A pitiful impression. He complained for a long time about the inhumanity of the Ukronazis, who are holding civilians as hostages. And what about making a decision to send troops, he is counting on something else? And what should we do now? Did he not know that the civilian population, what a shame, is everywhere, in all cities? So mission impossible? Then why did you start? He wanted to protect Donetsk from shelling. Did not work out. And what happened - to discard the country in development.

[Shahno]

Hmm, strange, I've been writing about this for several days. Apparently they consider me an agent of the State Department .. I just see things without information pressure and in general I only wish Russia well.
I don't understand why you put a noose around your neck. For the sake of fighting Nazism, it cannot be destroyed like that, in confrontation with the whole world.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Everyone saw in this speech what he wanted (as in principle in everything else). I remember about our military (heroes).

[Orange bigg]

. Well, time is now working for Russia. The operation continues, the troops are advancing, reinforcements, roadblocks, territory control. We figured out the air defense and fortified areas, got our hands on the TV towers and radio towers. Every day.

Time is playing against Russia. Wait even longer, they will send 200 thousand mercenaries and stick them there forever. Quickly surround Kyiv and eliminate the cauldron in the Donbass, otherwise, because of the nobility of the ostentatious, we will have a second Afghan at our side.

.From the Galician regions of Ukraine, news comes about a “hunt” for men, whom the Nazis in uniform and without are caught on the streets, in cafes, at train stations, after which they are sent under escort to the military registration and enlistment offices. In Lvov, Chernivtsi, Ternopil and other cities of the Western region, according to the local TV companies, it is generally forbidden to settle the stronger sex in hotels and in the private sector.

This means only one thing: there is an acute shortage of manpower in the Bandera army, and now they are putting cannon fodder under arms. Meanwhile, according to official data, the strength of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of February 24 was 200 soldiers and officers, to whose aid another 100 paramilitary fighters and some of the 900 reservists were sent.


Taking into account the fact that US intelligence reported that on March 1, approximately 120-strong grouping of the RF Armed Forces entered the “square” group, then, in theory, the numerical superiority should be on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But judging by the map of hostilities, this is not so.

There is one more thing: according to various estimates, about 50 soldiers and officers of the Zhovto-Blakit army guard the zapadenschina. Moreover, as reported in the media "square", we are talking about a fairly combat-ready reserve, which, however, is inactive.

According to rumors, Zelensky tried to transfer these troops to the capital, but the General Staff refused him, despite the fact that the situation was critical for the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Kiev and in southern Ukraine. Apparently, the Poles are not very trusted. In which case, the Poles will quickly appropriate ownerless lands, and they will find support from the United States. History knows many such examples when Warsaw took away land even from former allies.

https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/326868/

[sniperino]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Time is playing against Russia.

Or you have a countdown.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vervolk

Although the UN, at least not the UN, in its sphere of interests, only Russia decides who to peace and who to denazify

For your comment, my plus and Respect.

[GREG68]

Correct words. Give something God.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Why should we play for time? Do we want to wait for UN peacekeepers? Kyiv is not just dragging on time, but what are we waiting for, what are we chewing snot? Is this a war or a championship showing nobility? We can’t get bogged down here. time and the situation will get out of control.

Or maybe you just can't. And your generals underestimated the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and analysts miscalculated the mood of the Ukrainians?

[purple]

drowning for the Nazis ... well, well ... I did not expect. Not ashamed?

[Cutter]

[quote the Kiev delegation reported on the minimum program in the negotiations with Russia. ][/quot And I thought that the winner decides ... No! The stinker decides, which is nothing, but STINS VERY STRONG. There is a proposal - to live with it somehow not with NATO, but ....... ROLL TO THE END. I don't decide...

[A_Mazkov]

Well, why immediately "drown for the Nazis"?
My grandfather, like many others, fought against the Nazis, and I don’t feel any reverence for the Nazis.
I agree with Aaron's assessment:
They also counted on the loyalty of the population, and that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would surrender, and not resist.
But, it didn’t work out, it didn’t grow together ...
And it was precisely such a hard-nosed response from the United States and other countries that was not expected.
Here they are stuck...
Time is running out, so is money.

[aszzz888]

purple
Yesterday, 19: 55

+3
drowning for the Nazis ... well, well ... I did not expect. Not ashamed?

Is this new for you? This clientele from "from there" is all like a selection, and with them "Uncle Cherno .." from Merikatosia issuing training manuals.

[Orange bigg]

The fact of the matter is that everyone will think the way you think now, while our authorities are wasting their time and trying to show no one the nobility that no one needs. It is touching that the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Donbass cauldron shell cities every day, and our army does not even think to suppress these firing points, although she officially went to defend the DPR and LPR.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And your generals underestimated the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and analysts miscalculated the mood of the Ukrainians?

Your remark is very wrong.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Aron Zaavi

And your generals underestimated the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and analysts miscalculated the mood of the Ukrainians?

Your remark is very wrong.

It may very well be. We'll see in half a year.

[Do not care]

Yesterday I watched 2 interviews (CNN and ABC) of retired American generals. The general motive is:
2 surprises (I was surprised...):
- Putin does not have an army - This is not a modern army, this is not planning, this is not logistics, this is not command and control ... this is one big mess (literally "One big mess").
- The Ukrainian army showed incredible organization and professionalism.

[Awaz]

a mess, by the way, on both sides. To keep the Armed Forces of Ukraine only on the fact that they are hiding in settlements.
The main problem of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in this operation, (in my personal opinion) is that such a protracted nature of actions was not considered and that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will hide in large cities. They wanted to quickly move the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Donetsk and Lugansk to the borders of the regions, stretching the front line and not allowing reinforcements to be supplied to the troops on the Donetsk front, entering the territory of Ukraine from all sides. They expected to probably meet within three days and begin negotiations on surrender ...
It is clear that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can crush the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but when and at what cost is a big question. And an even bigger question: what's next?

[KreAtiF]

Quote: AwaZ

a mess, by the way, on both sides. To keep the Armed Forces of Ukraine only on the fact that they are hiding in settlements.
The main problem of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, in this operation, (in my personal opinion) is that such a protracted nature of actions was not considered and that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will hide in large cities. They wanted to quickly move the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Donetsk and Lugansk to the borders of the regions, stretching the front line and not allowing reinforcements to be supplied to the troops on the Donetsk front, entering the territory of Ukraine from all sides. They expected to probably meet within three days and begin negotiations on surrender ...
It is clear that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can crush the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but when and at what cost is a big question. And an even bigger question: what's next?

Judging by the material reserves accumulated in the border areas and in the Republic of Belarus, our General Staff planned the development of such events, there for 2-3 months of supply (depending on the intensity of the database), a group of 200 thousand. American data. We must also not forget the huge warehouses in Transnistria of the 40th Army of the USSR, at least some of them are usable there, well, if the storage conditions were correct. It's actually a smaller part, but still...

[Amateur]

Do you know the real situation at the fronts and behind the scenes of diplomats?
Or the Internet started.
So * (why) you climb with advice. And so from fakes the head is spinning.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Amateur

Do you know the real situation at the fronts and behind the scenes of diplomats?
Or the Internet started.
So * (why) you climb with advice. And so from fakes the head is spinning.

Of course from the internet. Do you think I can monitor the situation, being not only in another country, but also on another continent.

[businessv]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Rather, it is necessary to liquidate the cauldron in the Donbass and surround Kiev. Let's waste time and the situation will get out of control.

It is quite acceptable that all the independent media are filled with calls to caring citizens and mothers of Russia to come out to say "no to war"! Kadyrov correctly said on the third day, after a day of silence in anticipation of negotiations, that the operation must not be dragged out, this is fraught with consequences!

[Hariton laptev]

Peacekeepers will not be born from scratch. As a rule, first a truce is mandated by the UN and peacekeepers. There is no smell of a truce, the UN did not endure the discussion. We have time for maneuver and action. The main thing is not to get carried away.

[Sibguest]

"Do we want to wait for the UN peacekeepers?"
Alexander, who will let these "peacekeepers" into Ukraine?
The decision must be taken by the UN Security Council, and we - RUSSIA - will naturally put THIS on this decision ..., in the sense - we will veto this.

[abrakadabre]

Why should we waste time?

Who is pulling? To paraphrase: the negotiators are lying, the army is coming. Truce is not announced anymore. They even openly state that, regardless of the conduct of negotiations, hostilities do not stop. And the peacekeepers will not go. because the consent of both sides of the conflict is required for the entry of peacekeepers. Well, to make an invasion of blue helmets like the War in Korea ... NATO won everything out unanimously. Although, it would seem, Zelensky's invitation is available. And not only an invitation, but directly screams, slobber, snot for help. An no.

[Prisoner]

Svidomo to the Germans as from Lisbon to China in a well-known position.

[Tuzik]

It's cool, yesterday I saw the same picture in ukrinet, with a similar inscription, let them attack, as a result, they will attack before these ones.
PS. Probably they will ban me now, so sho to all local health, I was glad to chat for the last eight years on this very interesting site.

[Thrifty]

Maybe stop playing gentlemen? It's time to end the negotiations - only capitulation!

[Prisoner]

Have our hands been sanitized after these handshakes?

[opuonmed]

yes, all the blood will be a lot of Ukrainian government Natsik Ukrainian they don't give a shit about their people! You can't do without carpet bombarding! there both mercenaries and the United States supply their weapons, etc., etc., they have been brainwashed for 8 years and eliminated pro-Russian people! the line has already been crossed and his Natsiks are not capable of contracts! well i think it could be different

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: opuonmed

Yes, all the blood will be a lot of Ukrainian government Natsik Ukrainian they don't give a shit about their people! You can't do without carpet bombardments! there both mercenaries and the United States supply their weapons, etc., etc., they have been brainwashed for 8 years and eliminated pro-Russian people! the line has already been crossed and his Natsaks are not capable of contracts! well i think it could be different

Um. You are from Russia? And how old are you?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Um. You are from Russia? And how old are you?

Your question is stupid. The man is nervous. He is not on another continent, like you.

[Prisoner]

You will ask for a scan of your passport, as well as a bank card number and a pincode.

[aszzz888]

Aron Zaawi (Aron)
Yesterday, 19: 47

- Can I give you another key to the apartment where the money is?

[Sadam]

Oh, what carpet bombing. A small nuclear tactical charge near Mariupol at Azovstal

[Prisoner]

You would, my dear man, to appease excessive militancy. Moreover, judging by the ease of attitude to the process, you do not quite understand what carpet bombing is.

[Viktor Vladimirovich]

In general, the operation had to be started from the West in order to immediately cut off all paths

[Prisoner]

Crawl between the border, leaving in the east a 120-strong group of the APU and any Banderva? This whole gang would have rolled out the DPR and LPR. They wouldn't mess around with civilians. And further . It takes a lot of things to fight. How do you imagine providing units with fuel, ammunition, weapons, again, medical care? Buy abroad from Poland, Romania or Hungary?

[Lech from Android.]

Moscow assumes that the Ukrainian representatives are simply playing for time.

So it is ... the composition of the Ukrainian delegation and the issues that they came to settle clearly say that they are playing for time and powdering the brains of our negotiators.
Endless breaks according to the principle of Minsk 1,2,3 ... well, you can see that they are cheating.

[Sadam]

Real negotiations will begin when Bankovaya is taken. It is not enough to surround Kyiv. Fear and trembling may not work like in Kharkov

[sergo1914]

Quote: Lech from Android.

composition of the Ukrainian delegation

Well, have we got all the tops right?

PS Well, the truth is that there is no one on the screen saver.

[rocket757]

The Kyiv delegation announced the minimum program in the negotiations with Russia

. So it should have come to the end that endlessly ignoring such an aspect as caring for citizens is dangerous for them too.
However, not everything is so simple... humanity and other things are important, but our operation to liberate Ukraine cannot and should not be stopped!!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

However, not everything is so simple... humanity and other things are important, but our operation to liberate Ukraine cannot and should not be stopped!!!

Every day he works for Russia, not for Ukraine.

[rocket757]

Difficult question, because how to look.
And there are a LOT of sides!
The operation must be brought to ... what the leadership has planned there, we don’t know for sure, but it’s likely that this time they will bring it to the end.
And then the problems lined up.
Among them, the humanitarian one will be the most important, but whatever is wrong, successfully solved, you need one, the other, and the third, too.
In general, I don’t even want to enumerate, especially since there is nothing new, for the most part, everything expected, predicted in advance.
Now, there are fewer victims on all sides ... but how to achieve this is a difficult question, but there’s nothing new or unusual to come up with either.

[Commodore Arctic]

Too many conditions from neo-Nazis! It does not seem?

[tralflot1832]

And the operation does not stop even for a minute, they hammer on the Natsiks so that they are more accommodating.

[Prisoner]

So this is a centuries-old feature. Cram so much into the slurp that the devil can live with two.

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Commodore Arctic

Too many conditions from neo-Nazis! It does not seem?

The United States lives only by its own laws and sets only its own conditions, so why should Russia live by other people's laws and fulfill other people's conditions. Any concessions can lead to death.

[VicktorVR]

Physia reminded one old number from KVN - "I'm lost" :)

Aren't fools afraid to fly in a helicopter?
I hope ours are looking after, otherwise a MANPADS missile will fly out of the bushes / window and one more touch to the "bloody regime" - they will find the inscription "made by Petrov" on the rocket, and "Bashirov shot" on the launcher :)

[opuonmed]

Ukraine was allocated how many lards for mercenaries and the tin is shorter)))

[Vladimir61]

What did they say about the monkey with the grenade? Ukrainian "patriots" in the city center threw bottles at the abandoned Russian Grad

The result is obvious!

[SKIF555]

Completely inadequate!

[Kesha1980]

https://t.me/opersvodki/828
And stretch marks put in crowded places.

[Prisoner]

And with what fright should our "Grad" in a residential area do? You, my friend, have confused something.

[businessv]

Quote: Captive

And with what fright should our "Grad" in a residential area do? You, my friend, have confused something.

Taken off the tongue! On what basis did he determine ownership? Grads in residential areas were set up by the Nazis.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Captive

And with what fright should our "Grad" in a residential area do?

Why and under what circumstances left in the village. Borodyanka (northwest of Kyiv), the question is not for me. Photos from the locals, otherwise you, either it doesn’t work out, or it’s ordinary for a derzhava!

[Alexander X]

Well, Moscow's demands are small and reasonable: the immediate and unconditional surrender of the Ukrainian troops, the extradition of Zelya and his shobla to the law enforcement officers of the LDNR.

[Stepan]

They will do it like two Koreas

[iouris]

What? The Americans have already landed on the coast of the Belarusian Sea, did I miss something?

[aguirre]

Humanitarian corridors? I wonder who will separate the lambs from the goats?

[Tramp007]

Are you kidding? There is a corridor to Kyiv. Therefore, no one is going to give up.

[Prisoner]

Their minimum program is to survive, and the maximum is to have time to escape to the owners.

[iouris]

The minimum program ... The maximum program ... Well, purely Bolshevik-Leninists in 1905!
Bargaining is not appropriate here. It is necessary to give orders at least on humanitarian issues in the hope that they will be "recorded". However, most likely the instructions of the "president's office" in the field will not be carried out by the commanders. The president is a joker, and the commanders are notorious Nazis and war criminals. They are almost doomed and waiting for some miracle.

[iouris]

The BBC reports that Zelya is threatening the Russian Federation: "And we say to Russia: learn the word reparations and indemnities." Zelya with curses rejected humanitarian aid from the Russian Federation, he does not need it.

[Seamaster]

The Kyiv delegation announced the minimum program in the negotiations with Russia

Ask to organize humanitarian corridors? And fso?
And on their first visit, the requirements were the same:
1. Withdrawal of all Russian troops from Ukraine.
2. Return of Crimea and LDNR to Ukraine.
3. Payment by Russia of reparations of 500 billion dollars over 25 years in equal tranches.
Now my appetite has drastically decreased.

[Vavilov]

The minimum program is humanitarian corridors.

so they already exist, they were created, come out, this is a trick, while there is chatter in the cities, they will build fortified areas, underground passages, between houses, etc.

[katarsafebox.com]

It seems like its right now @@@@ in @@@@...

[alystan]

And what happened to Zelensky in the photo? )))
Or is it Arachamia?

[gansales]

All this is bullshit ... talking to these roosters.
There will be a new system of power soon, more serious and adequate
Here's a heart-to-heart talk with them
PS And their first words at the negotiations are "We are for denazification and the neutral status of the Outskirts" On your terms, just stop all this ..

[Evil 55]

Yes, something in appearance is not quite adequate dill ..

[mongolian9999]

After demilitarization and denazification, depidorization will have to be carried out for another ten years.

[Sibguest]

This is not Zelensky's brother? Almost a copy - only swollen, eyes like crap .... from fear of a mouse.