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Fake is like a weapon: the main thing is not to get carried away

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I perfectly understand Ukrainians. They are very scared today. It is very scary for those who try on life in Donetsk and Luhansk. In cellars with stale air, feeling the earth tremble from explosions - yes, it's scary.


It is scary for those who look at it from the outside. And he hopes (as in the central regions) that he will continue to look from the outside. But that's scary too.

Of course, the Ukrainians really want the valiant Armed Forces of Ukraine to be able to resist and push the aggressor back, but... But they want to.

Modern man is so accustomed: he lives in the flow of information and he just needs to receive it. And preferably one that is digestible and brings positive emotions.

In this regard, the Ukrainian media did an excellent job. They showed everything that could raise the spirit of the population and inspire confidence. And they did not disdain anything.

Since we have no information from our side, from the first day, like everyone else, we had to work with what came from Ukraine. After our people walked through the towers, there are doubts that the information flow will remain at the same level.

Perhaps this is not entirely bad, because from the first moment I had to deal mainly with filtering incoming information. And here all data of a false nature can be divided into two parts: erroneous information and outright lies.

Currently, there are literally a couple of channels on our side that deal with revelations. Very little, given the size of the disinformation that the Ukrainian side is spreading and which is believed in Ukraine.

Since we are still being read in Ukraine, for these people we will give a few examples of how Ukrainian sources lie.

1. The attack on the TV tower in Kyiv led to the death of civilians through the fault of our army


Here it is worth starting with the fact that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation warned in advance that they would shy away from the tower. And it demanded, right in the spirit of the Israeli military, to remove the residents of nearby houses and employees of the television center in order to avoid unnecessary casualties.

The fact that the warning was heard confirms the statement of the TV center management that there were no casualties among the employees. Naturally, no one began to evacuate the houses located next to the repeaters. This is, as it were, good material for propaganda about Russian aggression. But - it worked out.

And after a while, from an hour to two, videos began to appear, which depicted the “victims” of Russian aggression. Killed civilians of the city of Kyiv.


There are doubts here. Starting from how the bodies lie (all face down for some reason) to the fact that there is no damage corresponding to the explosion.

The secret is revealed very simply: from the very beginning of the special operation in some cities of Ukraine, morgues stopped giving out the bodies of the dead precisely for the purpose of using them in such productions. That is why they are all face down. The same thing, by the way, was on the video from Kharkov. Everyone is lying face down so that you can’t see on the video that these people died a long time ago.

In Kyiv, the forensic medical examination bureau is literally 200 meters from the television center. So that's where it could have come from. In Kharkov, by the way, a little further away, about 2 km, but not particularly critical.

Total: an example of undisguised false disinformation.

2. The Russian army uses cluster munitions against cities



Let's step back a bit, shall we? There were hundreds of such “cluster” ammunition in the DPR and LPR.


It is worth remembering that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have at least 150 MLRS installations of the Smerch and Uragan types, which can easily fire the same projectiles at abandoned cities in order to attribute everything to the Russian army.

If ours really used cluster munitions, then there would be dozens, if not hundreds, of corpses in urban areas. Plus, the cassette, from which submunitions are separated, greatly increases the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbdestruction. So that would have gone to the houses, which is not in any of the photos.

The specific photo provided by the Ukrainians shows an ordinary accelerator, which is not ammunition and does not pose a danger, unless, of course, it falls on something like a car.

Total: an example of unsubstantiated stupid information that does not correspond to reality.

3. Cruise missile by the Kharkiv Regional State Administration


The video was seen by everyone who did not see it - it is very clearly visible how the projectile falls in front of the OGA and explodes. Naturally, the Ukrainian side presented this as a hit by a Russian cruise missile. And even some on our side, out of illiteracy, picked up this utter nonsense.

Fake is like a weapon: the main thing is not to get carried away

In general, the Ukrainians came up with a good idea. Say, Azov was supposed to meet in front of the Regional State Administration. It is difficult to say for what devil, in theory, the regiment should have been in position for a long time and fight the invaders. And they, you know, decided to go to the Maidan, hold a rally. Well, or something else, fantasy fails, to be honest.

The Russian side, having learned about this, decided to strike. And she did. But “Azov” did not come to the rally, because there were no victims either.

We look. It is perfectly clear that this is not a cruise missile. This is the most common projectile from the large-caliber MLRS of the "Smerch" or "Hurricane" type. Which, I repeat, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also have.


It is the MLRS projectile that flies along a pronounced ballistic trajectory. In our case, since they were shooting from a short distance, the barrels were raised as much as possible during launch, which ensured such a steep angle of incidence. The plant was nearby. A cruise missile flies differently.

Here is a map of Kharkov, which was maximally oriented to the cardinal points. If you look at how the projectile fell, you can conclude that it came from the north. But we are not there. For now, but no!


And among other things: ours do not shoot at urban areas, no matter how it is attributed. Moreover, if they fired, then for such a target as the Azov regiment, they would certainly be generous with a volley. And here - one rocket, more precisely, one projectile.

Total: a well-posed, but unfinished provocation.

4. Equipment abandoned by the invaders in Chemodanovka



Chemodanovka, Sumy region. The “occupiers” abandoned their equipment and fled. Very joyfully, UNIAN screamed about this and others followed them. And for some reason, no one pays attention to some understaffing of equipment, quite evenly placed in the backyards of some warehouses.

The fact that all this rubbish was removed from the facilities of the RF Armed Forces a long time ago, and you rarely see such fossils in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, suggests that most likely all this stuff belongs to the National Guard of Ukraine. So what about the "occupiers" - this is too much. In addition, there are clearly no signs inherent in our equipment participating in the special operation.



Well, it was very simple for the shooter to want this neatly standing rubbish to be Russian technology. He may have been, but Soviet and so 40 years ago.

Total: that's how there is a fake. I really wanted to wishful thinking.

5. Russian military convoy (they write - another one!), Defeated in the town of Trostyanets, Sumy region








As I understand it, it is also from that opera when, with complete evil, a victory is needed. At least some. It is obvious that the city of Trostyanets is half the size of Ukraine, since the photos of the destroyed trucks date back to the war in the Donbass.

It is worth paying attention to the fact that there are no identification marks of the Russian contingent on all the equipment. They just pulled pictures from the Internet and passed them off as a win.

Moreover, officially the Armed Forces of Ukraine are also Tanks T-72, and Msta-S howitzers. All this was inherited from the division of the inheritance of the USSR in the 90s.

Outcome: a poorly made win.

6. Belarusian troops take part in a special operation, pilots of the Belarusian Air Force strike at Ukrainian targets



As evidence, a list of pilots participating in raids on Ukraine was cited. Ukrainian intelligence - it is so ...

But there is a small problem that brought to naught all the efforts of the heroes-scouts of Ukraine. And they turned out to be complete crap, since the list includes pilots Alexander Marfitsky and Alexander Zhuravlevich, who died back in 2009.


During the air show in the city of Radom (Poland), their Su-27, on which the pilots performed aerobatics, experienced a system failure. And without resorting to catapults, the Belarusian pilots took the plane away from the residential area, falling just a few hundred meters from the houses.


Rubbish intelligence is something in Ukraine ...

Total: again, Internet warriors blinded low-quality information.

7. Poland and Bulgaria will supply combat aircraft to Ukraine



Here is a win so win! For some reason, the Ukrainian Navy was the first to write about it on its official website, but since fleet no more, yes, the former sailors need to be occupied with something. Otherwise, they may start to think, and this does not lead to good.

Now the entry has been deleted, but the Internet remembers everything. Plus, some of them added that the Ukrainian pilots would operate from Polish airfields, which definitely would not be used by Russian missiles.

Everyone was stunned. On the Russian side, this message aroused thoughtfulness, since, indeed, they would have to somehow intercept the Ukrainian Air Force aircraft and shoot them down.

But most of all, the people involved in this statement were stunned.

The first to rush into battle was Bulgarian Prime Minister Kirill Petkov. The head of the Cabinet was puzzled by the presence of such a number of operational aircraft in the country and hastened to dispel this myth:
“Sofia will not help Ukraine with fighter jets. There were no commitments regarding Bulgarian fighters. At present, we have few flying aircraft, and we cannot transfer them to another country.”

Clearly there was panic. In principle, for more than cooling relations with the “brothers”, it is enough that the leadership of Bulgaria has already done it. And military assistance, and even in such volumes ...

The Poles sorted it out a little longer, but President Duda himself made a refutation:
“We are not sending our planes, as this would mean military intervention in the conflict that is being waged in Ukraine, and thereby the inclusion of NATO in this conflict. NATO is not a party to this conflict. Our planes will not fly to Ukraine.”

Alas, there will be no planes.

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In general, this list can be continued for a very long time, because Ukrainians lie, and they do it in all industries. They lie about the victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they lie about the defeats of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, they lie about what is happening in our country and at home.

It is clear that I really want to show that "everything is going according to plan", but ...

However, the final moment will come when it suddenly turns out that this very Mordor with the orcs turned out to be the winner. And all the pure elves of Ukraine will have a question: how so? We beat the enemy on all fronts, the whole of Europe was with us, everyone supported us - why?

Lies cannot always be defeated. Yes, you can fool the head of the enemy, using disinformation, as weapon. But the main thing here is not to get carried away. Otherwise, "The promised tomorrow will be bitter and intoxicated," as Vladimir Semenovich Vysotsky sang.
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  1. Mouse
    Mouse 2 March 2022 10: 22
    +6
    . They lie about the victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they lie about the defeats of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, they lie about what is happening in our country and at home.

    Well, so ... to call, it’s not coolies to turn ...
    1. Borik
      Borik 2 March 2022 10: 30
      +2
      That's exactly what they lie. I wrote here yesterday that the Nazis will definitely publish photographs of innocently killed civilians after the strike on the television center. Here they are published.
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 2 March 2022 10: 39
      +6
      Quote: Mouse
      Well ... to call, it's not a coolie

      seems Yes
      on the other hand, the effectiveness of this star turned out to be huge
  2. Flooding
    Flooding 2 March 2022 10: 22
    +4
    It must be admitted that over the past 8 years the junta has become quite adept at fakes, misinformation and false propaganda.
    No time wasted, put on stream.
    Yes, and teachers to become diligent students.

    The result in the form of brainwashed inhabitants is obvious.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 2 March 2022 10: 45
      -2
      So the info war is brainwashing on both sides, there is still a problem ... that they don’t believe the truthful materials.
  3. NDR-791
    NDR-791 2 March 2022 10: 24
    +3
    Our audience here is small and very specific. That is, we already know all this, we know where and how to check. There are very few such possibilities. My acquaintances from Lisichansk on the 24th said verbatim - "There is no information, watching your TV". But on our TV there is a minimum of fake information, and even about events with a delay sometimes for 12 hours. That is, it is not coordinated, in a word. So you have to write off with them almost by SMS to enlighten
  4. kamarada
    kamarada 2 March 2022 10: 25
    +4
    Let them sit and be afraid. I feel sorry for them too. I, like many others, have close relatives. But this is the process when the addict gets off the needle.
    It hurts, it hurts, it's scary. And the whole world is to blame. But there is no other way. Then they will crawl out of the basements, crazy BUT sober.
  5. Foul skeptic
    Foul skeptic 2 March 2022 10: 48
    -10
    The author, when you undertake to expose something, prove your conclusions. Like, for example, this one
    The secret is revealed very simply: from the very beginning of the special operation in some cities of Ukraine, morgues stopped giving out the bodies of the dead precisely for the purpose of using them in such productions.

    If evidence is not immediately given for such statements, then they are perceived as the same notions as Ukrainian tales.
    Next
    In general, the Ukrainians came up with a good idea. Say, Azov was supposed to meet in front of the Regional State Administration. It is difficult to say for what devil, in theory, the regiment should have been in position for a long time and fight the invaders. And they, you know, decided to go to the Maidan, hold a rally. Well, or something else, fantasy fails, to be honest.
    The Russian side, having learned about this, decided to strike. And she did. But “Azov” did not come to the rally, because there were no victims either.

    1) It was our inhabitants who concluded about the work of intelligence and a preventive strike at the assembly point. Even here, on VO, I can find and show yesterday's messages.
    2) Azov, in fact, through the telegram channel TRUHA KHARKOV (including) appointed a gathering of those who wanted to fight. It is checked by being on the channel of this message on the evening of February 28th.
    3) The meeting was scheduled for 10 am. Why did you arrive at 8? Perhaps because the recruiting announcement called for women who were supposed to provide cooking and perform other household tasks. Perhaps that is why they decided not to give extra frames for Ukrainian and Western propaganda - it's one thing when there are photos of male corpses on the frames and quite another - women's. But at the same time, to cool the ardor of hotheads - I believe those who were still going to come yesterday consider themselves reborn.
    Next
    A cruise missile flies differently.

    You can immediately see a superspecialist. One of the basic flight algorithms - when approaching the target, a cruise missile makes a hill and falls almost vertically. This does not mean that I am saying that it was precisely a cruise missile, but by this I show the degree of awareness of the whistleblower in the issues that he undertakes to expose.
    Next
    The fact that all this rubbish was removed from the facilities of the RF Armed Forces a long time ago

    BTR-70 withdrawn from service with us? Oh well. To be honest, I was dumbfounded when on the 24th I saw how we were entering the first echelon, including the BMP-1.
    1. hohol95
      hohol95 2 March 2022 11: 29
      +1
      Yesterday they reported about the panicked "scribbles" of the mayor of Kharkov about the entry of Russian troops into the city.
      And Ukrainian journalists tried to find out whether this information was reliable or not.
      But no one has been able to confirm it.
      Everyone answered - we are sitting in the basement and only HEAR the noise of "battle" or "similar actions" ...
      Perhaps after reading the "news" from the mayor, they decided to shoot at the square in front of the Regional State Administration in the "hope" to cover the "damned Muscovites"?
      The first missile was sighting ...
      And the rest were no longer "sent into flight" after learning that the square was empty and the "Muscovites" before it were not particularly eager.
      1. Foul skeptic
        Foul skeptic 2 March 2022 12: 12
        -3
        Perhaps after reading the "news" from the mayor, they decided to shoot at the square in front of the Regional State Administration in the "hope" to cover the "damned Muscovites"? The first missile was sighting ...
        And the rest were no longer "sent into flight" after learning that the square was empty and the "Muscovites" before it were not particularly eager.

        This assumption contradicts itself. If the first missile is "sighting", then those who fired should be able to evaluate the result of the zeroing. Otherwise, there is no point in shooting. And if it is possible to evaluate the result, that is, there is feedback from the square, then it is known even before the shot that there are no Russian troops there.
        1. hohol95
          hohol95 2 March 2022 12: 32
          +1
          The fact that there was a "sighting" missile is my purely reasoning ...
          Perhaps having "learned" from the mayor that the organizers of the "gathering of those who wish" in the "city are red" realized that there was no need for a gathering! But the installation is worth it. The rocket is loaded into the "barrel".
          In order not to bother, they pulnuli with thoughts "to whom God will send"!
          And then the Kharkiv Ministry of Emergency Situations on the air of the UkroTV channel talked about 6 wounded and posted smartphone videos with destruction in the RSA building. But not in nearby buildings. In which the glass flew out.
          Initially, there were SIX wounded ...
          Then they announced two dead ...
          But on the smart video, neither the wounded nor the dead were shown by the Ministry of Emergency Situations. And they did not show assistance to the wounded!
    2. Sanguinius
      Sanguinius 2 March 2022 16: 01
      -3
      Apparently, the author of the article himself knows little about anything ... especially under paragraph five, how can one not distinguish the T-72, there is an abandoned and lined T-80U from the T-80U, ONLY we have such MBTs, the Ukrainians do not have such .
      Therefore, it is the author of the article who is currently engaged in a fake gun, minus the article
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 2 March 2022 10: 50
    +1
    Modern man is so accustomed: he lives in the flow of information and he just needs to receive it. And preferably one that is digestible and brings positive emotions.
    . Anyone can be deceived, there are great masters in this matter ... someone who is happy to be deceived can be deceived by any, the most stupid information, a lure!
  7. riwas
    riwas 2 March 2022 10: 51
    +4
    I perfectly understand Ukrainians. They are very scared today. It is very scary for those who try on life in Donetsk and Luhansk. In cellars with stale air, feeling the earth tremble from explosions - yes, it's scary.

    Let them try on life in the Lao PDR, it's useful. And at the expense of fakes, this is a national trait of dill, one interpretation of history is worth something.
  8. shinobi
    shinobi 2 March 2022 11: 02
    +2
    Campaign operation will drag on for another couple of weeks. Large areas have to be occupied. Logistics do not have time.
  9. tlauicol
    tlauicol 2 March 2022 11: 05
    +1
    articles debunking fakes should be found out on an ongoing basis. daily. and not only in
  10. prior
    prior 2 March 2022 11: 09
    +2
    Here it is, the unshakable honesty of dill-patriots.
    And everything stood on such a foundation in Ukraine.
  11. Hypertension
    Hypertension 2 March 2022 11: 43
    +2
    More ukrobots on the internet write about "5700" dead Russian soldiers. When I ask for confirmation - they swear and merge.
  12. Wildcat
    Wildcat 2 March 2022 11: 45
    +4
    Like the article.
    You have to write something, here the "fake throwers" are working at full capacity.
    My personal top 3:
    1. "a rocket in Kyiv that hit a high-rise building" - IMHO, a Ukrainian BUK loaded.
    2. Riding Strela 10 in Kiev yards - IMHO, again, Strela 10 is Ukrainian.
    3. Well, a duel, IMHO, of the same Strela 10 with an armored car - IMHO both Ukrainian armored vehicles.

    It is necessary to understand about the victory over the "saboteurs", but, IMHO, for the most part, as with the Israeli DJ, who was mistaken for a Caucasian - "Fredley Fire".

    But we, IMHO, are still waiting for footage of the storming of Kyiv - this will be hell ...
  13. DmSol
    DmSol 2 March 2022 11: 47
    0
    sometimes it's not easy to figure it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHY3M77wOmY
  14. Million
    Million 2 March 2022 12: 40
    +1
    https://publizist.ru/.
    For some reason, this site has not been closed yet. So many nasty things are written about us.
  15. Azimuth
    Azimuth 2 March 2022 12: 45
    0
    According to the Kharkov Regional State Administration, it looks like they got Krasnopol. But notice the video through the monitor is worthless quality. We see it for a reason. If you stop recording at the point where the projectile hit, there is SOMETHING under the disguise. In front of the Christmas trees, on the sidewalk, behind the car. 2 pieces.
  16. Bradley
    Bradley 2 March 2022 13: 43
    +2
    We look. It is perfectly clear that this is not a cruise missile. This is the most common projectile from the large-caliber MLRS of the "Smerch" or "Hurricane" type. Which, I repeat, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also have.

    APU calibers?


    It is perfectly clear that this is a cruise missile, according to the outlines - 3M54-1 "Caliber".
    I repeat once again - the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have "Caliber"!

    However, why am I, because "Caliber" can be bought at the nearest hypermarket ...
    1. ioan-e
      ioan-e 3 March 2022 10: 38
      +1
      The wings are very clumsily painted on! In the pictures posted earlier, they were not!
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 3 March 2022 10: 45
        0
        Quote: ioan-e
        Wings very clumsily painted

        Yes. It would be nice to find the video from which these frames. Would like to know where to look...
  17. gsev
    gsev 2 March 2022 14: 26
    -1
    Effectively, convincingly and talentedly, one can use lies in propaganda even in a critically failed situation for the propagandist. Goebbels, a few hours before the suicide of himself and the murder of his daughters by his wife, pasted over Berlin with leaflets with the words: "In this war, there can be any miracle except the surrender of Germany." Of course, if the state is sacrificed to propaganda, it is not propaganda that contributes to the success of state policy.
  18. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 2 March 2022 14: 33
    0
    Soon the army of Khokhlotrolls will start squealing as the "kgovy Muscovites" bombed a residential building with clusters:

    https://t.me/grey_zone/12816

    ⚡️ An example of distributing Molotov cocktails to territorial defense: especially gifted people decided to throw Molotov cocktails at the BM-21 "Grad" installation of the RF Armed Forces, the result led to obvious consequences - the BC detonated. Now the screams - FOR WHAOO?
  19. ximkim
    ximkim 2 March 2022 17: 03
    -1
    In war, all means and methods are good for victory.
    No other way request
  20. Alexey Z
    Alexey Z 2 March 2022 19: 11
    0
    To be honest, I didn’t see real revelations, almost the same thing, but on the other hand. More or less at the end, about aviation.
  21. E B
    E B 8 March 2022 20: 32
    0
    Katz offers to give up