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Ukraine told the United States about the lack of Javelin anti-tank systems and Stinger MANPADS

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Despite American supplies and assistance from "NATO partners", Ukraine is running out of Javelin anti-tank systems and Stinger man-portable air defense systems. This was stated by the Ambassador of Ukraine to the United States Oksana Makarova.


Kyiv called on the United States to urgently continue deliveries of anti-tank and anti-aircraft systems to Ukraine, since the accumulated stocks of Javelin anti-tank systems and Stinger MANPADS are almost over. A private meeting between U.S. senators and the Ukrainian ambassador took place on Monday, two U.S. lawmakers said on condition of anonymity.

Markarova told senators that Ukraine has almost run out of Stinger man-portable air defense systems and especially Javelin anti-tank missiles

writes Politico.

According to sources, Makarova "pressed" on the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine "really need" new deliveries of lethal weapons, especially anti-tank and anti-aircraft systems. She asked for more supplies weapons Kiev

The information that appeared about the lack of Javelin anti-tank systems and Stinger MANPADS in the Armed Forces of Ukraine caused bewilderment not only among Russian, but also among Western users, given how many anti-tank systems were delivered only from the United States recently, as well as previously purchased by Ukraine. Moreover, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also had British NLAW anti-tank systems, of which more than 2 thousand units were delivered. No wonder the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Reznikov boasted on Twitter that the Armed Forces of Ukraine had more weapons than potential targets.

An opinion is expressed that part of the anti-tank systems supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine was used against Russian armored vehicles, and most of them simply evaporated along with the detonated warehouses. At the same time, it is not excluded that a certain amount was put "on the sly" in other countries and will soon surface in some conflict in the Middle East or Asia.
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  1. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 1 March 2022 14: 16
    +8
    They carried them out in warehouses with rockets and that's it.
    1. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 1 March 2022 14: 22
      +5
      it will last a couple more days standing on Ugra-2.0 - and neither MANPADS nor ATGMs will be needed anymore
      1. Civil
        Civil 1 March 2022 14: 27
        +3
        Did they all leave when they left?
        1. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 1 March 2022 14: 32
          +4
          it doesn’t matter anymore, an army without an armored personnel carrier, without an infantry fighting vehicle, without an MBT is NOT an army
          we will also go to the partisans - we also have enough DRG Special Forces of the MTR - better than the US green berets
          let's see how MANPADS and ATGMs will help them against our special forces in the forests and glades
        2. prapor55
          prapor55 1 March 2022 14: 38
          +2
          Nii hordes of orcoffs are simply incalculable, but herias do not die wassat
        3. paul3390
          paul3390 1 March 2022 14: 45
          +8
          For some reason, it seems to me that all the types of missing weapons will very soon surface in the most unexpected places in the world .. This is Ukraine!
        4. Prisoner
          Prisoner 1 March 2022 14: 56
          +5
          Some of them were sold out (do not go to the fortuneteller), some of them seem to have been covered in our warehouses.
          1. ROSS_51
            ROSS_51 1 March 2022 16: 38
            0
            Quote: Captive
            Some of them were sold out (do not go to the fortuneteller), some of them seem to have been covered in our warehouses.

            Well, besides ours, there are somehow not many "buyers" there ..))
        5. Cananecat
          Cananecat 1 March 2022 15: 15
          +1
          All already sold laughing
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 1 March 2022 14: 24
      +6
      Even though all the ammunition depots in Ukraine were taken out? No one will ever supply them with as much ammunition and equipment as they got from the USSR. The main thing is to destroy every single one of the depots with equipment and ammunition, fuel and lubricants. , a plant where gunpowder is produced, etc. etc.
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 1 March 2022 14: 25
      +6
      So they also produce their own anti-tank systems! And where are the praised Stungs then?
      1. Valery Vp
        Valery Vp 1 March 2022 15: 06
        +2
        where where ... to answer in rhyme?
    4. Real Pilot
      Real Pilot 1 March 2022 14: 27
      +6
      "Sold and stolen, bring more!" How else to understand such howls?
      For there is no confirmed data of real combat use. In that information bacchanalia, they don’t even show soldiers shooting “into milk” (even for a picture, toys are too expensive to be so free).

      Well, yes, the "calibers" have thinned out the stocks somewhat ...
      And the fighters of the NM LDNR are photographed with these coveted items. British ATGMs are being withdrawn in quantity. soldier
    5. belovvladimir
      belovvladimir 1 March 2022 15: 26
      +3
      No, they have already knocked out 2 million Russian tanks and other military equipment, and the tanks keep going and going, going and going, where are so many javelins and other weapons taken, UPS peramoga hi
      1. zloybond
        zloybond 1 March 2022 16: 22
        +3
        Yes, such victories, but they are all stick and roll)))) It just seems to me that all this delivery will come out sideways then. Not a single civilian plane will be able to take off later until every single MANPADS is found. This is the country of Somalia now. do not fly into it or fly away. In short, air traffic in this country is all forgotten forever. hi
    6. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 1 March 2022 19: 05
      -2
      Or the Russian Federation already.
    7. avg
      avg 2 March 2022 16: 45
      0
      Wait, soon the European customs officers and policemen will appreciate the training of javelin operators for themselves.
  2. Commodore Arctic
    Commodore Arctic 1 March 2022 14: 16
    +8
    Seen to the end! "Demand" - they at least know how much the FGM-148 Javelin costs - "The cost of one complex complete with 6 missiles is from 600 thousand dollars for the United States and allies and up to 1,4 million dollars for export (2017)" - Ukraine is 52 US state? Insolence knows no bounds!

    FIM-92A Stinger - costs $110
  3. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 1 March 2022 14: 16
    +6
    And how will they deliver them to the region of Kyiv and Mariupol, the air is then blocked by the Russian Aerospace Forces, only by trucks from Poland, and even that is not a fact
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 1 March 2022 14: 22
      -3
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      And how will they deliver them to the region of Kyiv and Mariupol, the air is then blocked by the Russian Aerospace Forces, only by trucks from Poland, and even that is not a fact

      Yes, fact, fact.
      Caravans are already moving from Poland. The Poles boast, they show it on TV.
      1. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 1 March 2022 14: 32
        +1
        Badly. Videoconferencing should control such things, and stop.
        1. Valery Vp
          Valery Vp 1 March 2022 15: 08
          0
          surely know and control. but to stop ... most likely they know where they are being taken, and there the caliber ... is waiting for permission to launch.
          1. Dilettante grandfather
            Dilettante grandfather 1 March 2022 15: 11
            0
            It is much safer to destroy ammunition and weapons in transit. To work on caravans, in conditions of superiority in the air, and there will be no more such caravans: no one wants to carry something when certain death awaits drivers and accompanying people.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 March 2022 14: 30
      +1
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      And how will they deliver them to the region of Kyiv and Mariupol, the air is then blocked by the Russian Aerospace Forces, only by trucks from Poland, and even that is not a fact

      Moldova handed over its airport to NATO for the transit of weapons to Ukraine. The Moldovan airport in Marculesti will become a transshipment point for arms shipments sent by NATO countries to Ukraine. Political scientist Alexander Nosovich spoke about this with reference to his sources in the entourage of the Moldovan President Maia Sandu in the TV channel "Book of Nosovich".
      1. Grits
        Grits 1 March 2022 15: 20
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Moldova handed over its airport to NATO for the transit of weapons to Ukraine. The Moldovan airport in Marculesti will become a transshipment point for arms shipments sent by NATO countries to Ukraine.

        Hmm .... It's a pity. It must have been a good airport what
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 1 March 2022 15: 30
          -1
          Quote: Gritsa
          Hmm .... It's a pity. It must have been a good airport

          I do not know until Konashenkov published photo materials on this airport.
  4. engineer74
    engineer74 1 March 2022 14: 16
    +3
    Everything is more wonderful and more wonderful ... Whether the deliveries were on paper, or everything was sold very successfully ...
    And where now the MANPADS have spread only God knows ... or Allah ... recourse
    1. zloybond
      zloybond 1 March 2022 14: 22
      +10
      As they say: Nothing personal, just business. Otse so request Ours captured a lot when they abandoned their property during the retreat. They burned a lot of blows along with bipedal carriers and on the storerooms. Something has been broken. Such a nature hi And don't forget - the women drag the abandoned in the fields to the huts - it will come in handy on the farm. the child is a new toy, let him sit and pick the buttons ... fool Well, put under the leg of the bed or a table so that it does not stagger. Briefly torn apart. belay
      1. sifgame
        sifgame 1 March 2022 14: 43
        +4
        That’s for sure, but the men are more serious dragging home, the collective farmer dragged Strela-10 on a tractor, someone probably already has a tank in a barn under straw
        1. Cananecat
          Cananecat 1 March 2022 15: 20
          0
          Quote: sifgame
          That’s for sure, but the men are more serious dragging home, the collective farmer dragged Strela-10 on a tractor, someone probably already has a tank in a barn under straw

          But if you remove the tool there, how much manure can be removed at a time, and the tool goes to the chimney ... 120 mm alloy steel ... yes, it is eternal laughing
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 1 March 2022 19: 09
        0
        There, a lot of towed guns were abandoned now, probably, someone has clothes in the gardens to dry.
    2. bk316
      bk316 1 March 2022 14: 27
      +6
      It's getting weirder and weirder...

      You just don't understand them.
      Now on the sly and for free to steal something.
      Yes, it is a national dream.
      It is there in the Donbas that miners are used to working, and they are used to stealing in banking ....
      We also know how and in the states they know how, but it’s so arrogant and shameless only there.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 March 2022 15: 33
        0
        Quote: bk316
        Now on the sly and for free to steal something.

        Yes, here it is no longer possible to steal "on the sly", but whole convoys can be driven to where and from whom the gold rings in the "kishene".
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 March 2022 15: 35
        0
        Quote: bk316
        We also know how and in the states they know how, but it’s so arrogant and shameless only there.

        Insolence and rudeness have been worked out for centuries, and now they have it at the gene level.
  5. K-50
    K-50 1 March 2022 14: 19
    0
    Ukraine told the United States about the lack of Javelin anti-tank systems and Stinger MANPADS

    They will lose everything, and what they do not lose, they will sell, and they will say that they have lost. yes
  6. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 1 March 2022 14: 20
    -1
    A well-known principle - ask for more, and then you look, and datoot at least a little.
  7. Evil 55
    Evil 55 1 March 2022 14: 20
    +2
    How many I looked through the files on cleaning up the Russian cities of Ukraine from criminal elements, I noticed that the local population is NOT INFORMED about the conduct of a special operation in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbresidence. reducing the risk of destruction of the civilian civilian population of Ukraine.
    1. Dilettante grandfather
      Dilettante grandfather 1 March 2022 14: 35
      +1
      They won't believe. An hour ago I talked with a friend, she is in Kharkov. He thinks that ours are the aggressors. Aunt is 50 years old. He believes all the fakes, complains about how bad they feel in the basements and under the sirens. And hears the cannonade. And he keeps saying that ours are hitting Kiev ...
      1. Evil 55
        Evil 55 1 March 2022 14: 44
        +1
        I would also be shocked when I went to work somewhere in Chernigov early in the morning and saw a platoon of bearded Czechs with weapons in the form of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, dancing lezginka "in a quiet form" ..
  8. Sir Galant
    Sir Galant 1 March 2022 14: 20
    0
    of course they were all stolen / wanted to write another word
  9. Geofiz
    Geofiz 1 March 2022 14: 21
    0
    Who knows how many LDNR and Russian troops captured ... what's the point of supplying them? It’s easier right under the tractor ... these deliveries will not help them, like the 70 aircraft that Europe will throw
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 1 March 2022 15: 11
      +3
      Quote: Geofiz
      70 planes that Europe will throw

      Do not throw up - disown already, away from sin. laughing Yes, and to whom already toss? request
      1. Grits
        Grits 1 March 2022 15: 25
        0
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Do not throw up - disown already, away from sin. laughing Yes, and who should give it to? request

        It's too late to drink Narzan - the lungs have already fallen off ...
        "Partners" realized that it is easier to destroy these aircraft at their own airfield - the result is the same, but cheaper.
  10. prior
    prior 1 March 2022 14: 21
    +2
    Ukraine is not worried at all that suppliers can rake.
    On the contrary, she wants to draw them into an armed conflict.
    And all quiet peaceful European life can turn into radioactive ashes.
    Oh Europe, Europe. You raised a monster.
  11. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 1 March 2022 14: 23
    0
    Yes, what miracles, everyone is trying to catch the cut. And there, as they say, the war will write everything off.
  12. sergey2183
    sergey2183 1 March 2022 14: 24
    0
    They have already used them all to protect against Russian aggression.
  13. FoBoss_V
    FoBoss_V 1 March 2022 14: 25
    +4
    The campaign was driven by Ukrainians stingers with javelins padishmanu. The owners were told that the Russians bombed the warehouse and they say the American brothers, give me more
  14. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 1 March 2022 14: 27
    +2
    pops up in some conflict in the Middle East or Asia.
    Or terrorist attacks in Europe.
  15. vik669
    vik669 1 March 2022 14: 30
    0
    You better wood work on coffins...!
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 1 March 2022 14: 30
    +1
    Ukraine told the United States about the lack of Javelin anti-tank systems and Stinger MANPADS
    . Gasoline will be poured into the fire ... until it all starts to burn immediately after crossing the border ...
  17. DominickS
    DominickS 1 March 2022 14: 31
    +3
    This is where our lack of normal reconnaissance UAVs is already strongly affecting. With the help of them, it would be possible to patrol the border zone and quickly destroy convoys with delivered junk when they cross the border.
    1. Bayun
      Bayun 1 March 2022 15: 05
      +1
      ... there is enough strange ... Somewhere around 100-200 km we have advanced, but artillery and MLRS are still working in Gorlovka and Donetsk ... They did not see from 10 points-U. "Fog of war"...

      Flying "toys" are clearly not enough, judging by the events. At least 3-4 pieces per column are needed: the vanguard-rearguard and 2 flanks. Ideally - combat, but it was safer with reconnaissance.

      Against "distant" ambushes with pre-shot paths, it will not help, but it will most likely save you from the near "surprise".
      1. Grits
        Grits 1 March 2022 15: 28
        0
        Quote: Bayun
        Flying "toys" are clearly not enough, judging by the events.

        Judging by how Donbass is still being hammered, there is a lack of not only "flying toys", but also elementary means of detecting artillery to respond
        1. Bayun
          Bayun 2 March 2022 01: 41
          0
          Aesop speaking, so it can minimize the number of losses, including civilian ones. Although - not self-evident for those who see what is happening through the "glasses" of peace, not war.

          I'm sorry to tears, but I believe that our strategists are right ... Here is a classic: "If I was a combat captain, I can't be a major at headquarters."
    2. Disant
      Disant 1 March 2022 15: 21
      0
      This is where our lack of normal reconnaissance UAVs is already strongly affecting.

      UAVs will immediately be planted on the ground - and junk with them (except for tanks and infantry fighting vehicles) cannot be tracked. junk in the form of anti-tank weapons and MANPADS does not take up much space and moves in commercial quantities on small trucks or civilian cars.
  18. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 1 March 2022 14: 37
    0
    During the retreat, they abandoned both ATGMs and MANPADS. Well, it makes sense: it's easier to run light. Here it is over.
  19. ter.765
    ter.765 1 March 2022 14: 38
    -12
    There was recently an article on the VO on a neighboring branch about the use of Javelins in Ukraine, it turns out they really burn the equipment there
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 1 March 2022 15: 13
      +1
      laughing Did you see it with your own eyes too?
    2. Disant
      Disant 1 March 2022 15: 26
      -2
      come on, throw a link to the article, great combinator
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 1 March 2022 16: 16
        -1
        https://topwar.ru/192785-primenenie-vsu-ptrk-javelin-na-donbasse-povlijalo-na-vozmozhnosti-lnr-i-dnr-k-nastupatelnym-dejstvijam.html
        Here is the article I mentioned have 765.
        And here is a fresh one https://topwar.ru/192862-tankovye-kozyrki-na-ukraine.html
        There are also photos here.
        And unfortunately it's not fake. Of course, not bravura Ukrov: "the Armed Forces of Ukraine have more weapons than potential targets"
        But there are losses.
        1. Disant
          Disant 1 March 2022 16: 31
          -1
          So did you read the article yourself?
          from the article
          Yes, and there is no clear clarity that hit the "roof", and not something else.

          1. volodimer
            volodimer 1 March 2022 16: 47
            0
            And you first, the link to which demanded? The problem is clearly stated in it.
            I agree that the second article is mainly about protective equipment, and not about javelins. But if the topic of roofers is raised, then bayraktars are not the main threat now.
            Earlier there was an article with 2 photos, T-80 and T-72B3, and it was indicated that one of them was hit by NLAW, the other by a javelin.
            1. Disant
              Disant 1 March 2022 18: 07
              -1
              And you first, the link to which demanded?

              The presence of a modern ATGM with a tandem warhead in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, capable of confidently hitting any tank of the People's Militia of the LPR and DPR from 2+ kilometers, as I expected, is very negative affected our ability to actively tie up the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

              this?
              so where are the tanks with visors? or even without?
              maybe we should wait for some information before supporting the igniter. burn javelins while in a dream
    3. Grits
      Grits 1 March 2022 15: 29
      +1
      Quote from: ter.765
      There was recently an article on the VO on a neighboring branch about the use of Javelins in Ukraine, it turns out they really burn the equipment there

      It would be foolish to deny it. If there is modern good weapons, then they use it. This is war.
    4. Eraser
      Eraser 1 March 2022 21: 20
      0
      Damn, why are you freshly all so sadly the same, like a carbon copy? And refer to each other...
  20. Bayun
    Bayun 1 March 2022 14: 44
    +2
    Inspired: "and what you sent last week, we have already eaten" ...

    And whatever they "ate, they nibbled."
  21. flicker
    flicker 1 March 2022 14: 46
    +2
    Ukraine told the United States about the lack of Javelin anti-tank systems and Stinger MANPADS
    Use slingshots.
  22. Mr.dimadroll
    Mr.dimadroll 1 March 2022 14: 59
    0
    In Kyiv, according to the announcement, let them buy. You can probably buy Point U there now
  23. YOUR
    YOUR 1 March 2022 15: 00
    +1
    Didn't they all use it up? Or were they taken to the caches?
    A set of Jewel's head and six rockets costs 1 bucks. The Stinger costs 400, which is the cost of selling much more.
    Aid to Ukraine is expensive
  24. kalita
    kalita 1 March 2022 15: 11
    0
    They drank before the war.
  25. Fisherman
    Fisherman 1 March 2022 16: 20
    0
    Obviously, the West got wind of the fact that the newly created Federative Ukraine would not pay for the supply of these weapons, so such debts would not go through the courts and decided not to use this fraudulent trick anymore.
  26. beeper
    beeper 1 March 2022 20: 09
    0
    DillOslitsa, it turns out, is already a war criminal without a statute of limitations?! am
    I hope that the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation will not leave this bloodthirsty Banderovka unpunished!
  27. sgr291158
    sgr291158 2 March 2022 06: 29
    +1
    Some were destroyed, some were used, but most were sold.
  28. opposite28
    opposite28 2 March 2022 16: 41
    0
    Despite American supplies and assistance from "NATO partners", Ukraine is running out of Javelin anti-tank systems and Stinger man-portable air defense systems. This was stated by the Ambassador of Ukraine to the United States Oksana Makarova.
    They turned out to be shameless egoists, violent nationalists and atheists. They are the ones who want it. am hi repeat
  29. Freedim
    Freedim 2 March 2022 18: 22
    +1
    It's strange, why didn't they ask the Virginia or the F-35 flight? ..