In the event of a rapid advance of Russian troops, the Ukrainian military abandon heavy equipment with ammunition

In a number of directions of the offensive of the Russian army during the special operation, clashes with Ukrainian units are taking place. In a number of cases, Ukrainian formations find themselves without proper command and control. Captured Ukrainian servicemen say that there is virtually no centralized command, and the most common orders are to place military equipment in forest plantations or in residential areas and “wait for the enemy to appear” to strike.

In the event of a rapid advance of Russian troops or the people's militia of the DPR, Ukrainian units often abandon equipment along with ammunition, leaving their positions.

Footage appeared on the network in which local residents demonstrate equipment abandoned by Ukrainian troops. In particular, we are talking about the Grad multiple launch rocket system, which turned out to be ownerless in the middle of a country road.

From the interrogation of a surrendered Ukrainian soldier:

We were told to board. There were no further orders. We didn't know what action to take.

But if the deployment of country roads and forest plantations is one thing, then the deployment of heavy equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in residential areas is a frank attempt by Ukrainian security forces to hide behind civilians.

There are also Ukrainian officials who condone such criminal acts or make such decisions themselves. So, the authorities of Chernigov spread a call to mine the approaches and entrances to the city. In fact, this means only one thing: they are trying by all means to force the civilian population to stay within the regional center in order to use it as a human shield. A typical option for the Maidan authorities, when civilians try to cover up their own criminal acts.

Comments

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Why the Armed Forces of Ukraine abandons equipment is understandable, but why is there so much abandoned equipment of the Russian army?

They throw both tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, and even the Shell was seen abandoned with Acacia.

That our soldiers also do not receive orders and do not understand what to do?

[The leader of the Redskins]

If I'm not mistaken, then for some reason there is a bottle from under our, Russian water on the video in the cockpit, and for some reason there are no numbers on the car.
These are the comments of those who carefully reviewed the video.

[Civil]

This is the war of the 21st century ... technology is now below the price of a soldier's life ...

[Evil543]

Yes, and ours are not filmed at all. All shots from the other side. And this is necessary

[Smoker]

A plane from the USA with YouTubers landed in Poland, the Oscars are just around the corner...
we are waiting for something like this in YOUTUBE CHANNELS:
media=https://vk.com/video8013782_456241427

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

This is the war of the 21st century ... technology is now below the price of a soldier's life ...

No, the matter is completely different, this equipment was abandoned by the deserters of the Russian army, therefore there are no corpses and the enemy gets it intact.

This problem should not be hushed up, and all deserters should be brought to criminal responsibility and believe the terms as for murder, because, in fact, people died because of them. They abandoned the TOR and the Shell, did not block the column, and the enemy struck with Bayraktars and hit both equipment and personnel!

It’s the 21st century, it’s not convenient to shoot deserters on the spot, but you need to bring the cells to court.

[sen]

even the Shell saw abandoned

Where did the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Pantsir" come from?

[YOUR]

Kindly link. The abandoned T-80 is something that happened there is not clear. Only no one is trying to seize or burn them. Fighting vehicle Lynx, but at the end of the video it slips that it is disabled. I would like to look at the abandoned Shell, it is very desirable with reference to the area so that there are no double interpretations

[The leader of the Redskins]

https://youtu.be/fJQLcuEAhBg

[YOUR]

Dont clear. Worth the Shell. Obviously stuck in the mud. If he is abandoned, then why won’t the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroy him. Unclear.

[Nikolay Sayenko]

where is it thrown? is there a binding, otherwise they will pull it out of some exercises and are satisfied .... yesterday they told me that Chernihiv was razed to the ground! Am I supposed to believe these idiots ?!

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

https://youtu.be/fJQLcuEAhBg

It looks like it's not stuck, but the wheels are broken. Someone there talked about the advantages of a wheelbase compared to a tracked one, in terms of mobility, and so on.

[bayard]

It's the tie. With a quick attack, broken, stuck and damaged equipment is left in place so as not to delay movement. It is risky to leave crews with them, because. the area has not been cleared. There are no signs of damage. Later, they will drive the caterpillar tug, pull it out, repair it, if necessary, and go into battle.

[Osipov9391]

near Kiev. Su-25SM. MANPADS...
Died...
So we will remain without tactical aviation!
Su-30SM. Millerovo, Bayraktar. 2 pieces burned down at the airport.
Detonation of ammunition in the same place.

[bayard]

There is no war without loss.
Yes, there are a lot of MANPADS, so the loss of helicopters and aircraft at low altitudes is inevitable.

Quote: Osipov9391

So we will remain without tactical aviation!

More will be built this year. But I feel sorry for the pilots.
They fight on psychotropics, that's why such obstinacy. Zombies are causing the apocalypse.
They do not fight in the open field, they impose a war in the cities, hiding behind the population. A little more and they will completely lose the right to captivity and a fair trial. It will be like during the storming of Budapest, when the reptiles were not taken prisoner - the guilt and anger of these "heroes" was too great.
No one will give up plans and intentions, "Ukraine" will be disarmed and denazified. And roughly punished - like Germany since 1945.
And all her allies and sponsors.

[Roman Efremov]

Do you think we have 5 aircraft in tactical aviation? 3 lost - is this a critical loss?

[Nikon O'Conor]

Yeah, and where are the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who "captured" him. The Shell is standing and maybe waiting for an evacuation vehicle, there is not a single Bandera nearby ... Or are you starting from the captions for the videos?

[Popov I.P.]

The armor is most likely ukrobred. The armor is a technique of the Aerospace Forces, it has nothing to do with the air defense forces of the ground forces. One division of the Armor includes the S-400 regiment as the third division and is intended to cover them. Of course, there are separate divisions at training centers in Syria, but in the regular formation of a motorized rifle or tank regiment, the Pantsir has nothing to do. There was really an article about the development of 2Pantsyr "for the air defense of the SV, but did it reach the iron - the question? The air defense of the SV has its own line of equipment:" Willow "," Strela-4 "," Strela-10 "," Osa-AKM ", S- 300v4 Although they could have come up with something atypical, because somewhere all the Bayraktars have already disappeared, and the Javelins are no longer there either.

[kig]

Quote: YOUR

highly desirable with reference to the area

There are quite a lot of such videos in Telegram, but how can I find out the date of the picture and the binding? I just started using Telegram, but as far as I understand, the posts there appear like this: someone wants to publish his entry in a certain channel, writes there and attaches the video, the admin decides yes or no. So only the channel admin can see the original? In addition, geodata in the camera can be disabled.

[kig]

Quote: YOUR

it is very desirable with reference to the area so that there are no double interpretations

well, for example, a photo

signature:
Another abandoned T-80BVM and MLRS Grad of Russian units in the Kharkiv region
How to tie it to the area? And is he Russian? And maybe it was filmed somewhere else, and not today?

[barclay]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

why so many abandoned equipment of the Russian army?

How much? Where did you get such an assessment? For whom is a lot? For you?
For your information, equipment can fail. If this happens in a hostile environment, then abandoning her is sometimes the only option so as not to substitute personnel.

[bk316]

That our soldiers also do not receive orders and do not understand what to do?

Didn't serve? There is a column on the march. The car broke down. What they do is throw it right. In peacetime, the guards will be left. Therefore, the technique is abandoned if they advance or run. Well, I hope who is running and who is coming, no need to explain?

[Awaz]

this story requires a separate analysis. As far as I know, this is Kharkiv, Shevchenko Street, next to the Vianor store (these are the remains of it are visible on the right) Morning, either Saturday or Sunday. As I understand it, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation began a "cleansing" of Kharkov. They started very clumsily stupid and paid the price for it. Here it is necessary for commanders, those who sent fighters in columns on the Tigers with bulletproof protection, to drive around the enemy city to shoot on the spot. In Kharkov, two brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were quartered and all sorts of territorial defense units. There are a lot of people, mostly experienced fighters. In our country, it is clearly visible that the VVs are one of those who can only disperse the demonstrators. That's why the sad result. There, several similar incidents happened in the morning. Then they became more careful and there are no more videos of this kind.
Again, the bodies of those killed are not visible. Although there is a suspicion that someone is lying next to the first Tiger, but not a fact. There are like four five tigers, at least there should be 10-15 fighters, but in reality there are more ... The prisoner on the video is very suspicious. Although I'm not saying anything. In general, prisoners appear when a unit is destroyed or cornered.
Here the blame is entirely on those who commanded the operation. They need to be pricked

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: AwaZ

As I understand it, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation began a "cleansing" of Kharkov. They started very clumsily stupid and paid the price for it. Here it is necessary for commanders, those who sent fighters in columns on the Tigers with bulletproof protection, to drive around the enemy city to shoot on the spot

I completely agree. This Kharkov Saturday morning or Sun.
An attempt to clean up the city with completely insufficient forces for this - only two dozen Terbatovites burned one tiger, three tigers were abandoned, 200 were not visible - apparently the fighters retreated. It is indicative - four tigers - these are 4 departments - 40 people + drove.
Very low combat stability.
There is a continuation of this video in 15 minutes - the same group of Terbatovites "knocks" down the street from captured grenade launchers and from RPGs - motivated, it will not be very easy to smoke out such people.

[vvkroxa]

There is a continuation of this video in 15 minutes - the same group of Terbatovites "knocks" down the street from captured grenade launchers and from RPGs - motivated, it will not be very easy to smoke out such people.
It was a film crew of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They wander around in different places and shoot such propaganda videos about their toughness. Fake is now not the sea but some kind of tsunami.

[zadorin1974]

Good time. Tigers are in service with specialists or intelligence (the driver is a commander, a machine gunner and a maximum of four fighters - just press in more). Most likely, someone's reconnaissance platoon tried to feel the situation. the whole world. So ours departed in an organized manner, respect for the guys and commanders. There are Ukrainian videos with our real losses and undermined equipment, honest videos, you won’t get away from this. it was covered with artillery, burned down, judging by the video of 4 BMDs, one BMD is easily on its side in a ditch and an armored personnel carrier with another BMD is blocked. There are also no corpses. Again, the Ukrainians blew.

[Usher]

Quote: AwaZ

mostly experienced fighters

Where are the experienced?

[Awaz]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have been fighting in the Donbass for eight years. Kharkov is one of the largest centers for the rotation and training of militants in the Donbass ... There are plenty of experienced warriors. It is obvious that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were preparing something and therefore the forces were pulled up as close as possible to the Donbass, including to Kharkov ..

[Usher]

Are they fighting? Well, maybe you know better.

[Awaz]

think they are stupid people. The Armed Forces of Ukraine, no matter what they say on TV, are still shelling Donetsk every day, even reaching the city center. He was Putin's main argument in the surrender negotiations ..

[ananias mudishev]

In your opinion, for 8 years to sit in the trenches against each other, as in 1 MV, are these experienced fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

[lucul]

Why are the Terbatovites digging into the "Tigers" abandoned in Kharkov, which are not produced in Ukraine by any means?

You won't see any trees in the forest
Where is he thrown?
Here is a photo of the destroyed Tiger in the photo you provided

And here is a photo of the whole Tiger, rear view

Don't you see the difference?

[your1970]

The bevel of the sidewalls of the roof is completely different and its width.
But both cars have something in common, they are similar.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Plus the height. The tiger is on the chassis of a truck and the soldier is clearly not up to it in height:

Or that the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are under 2.5 meters tall?

[mediumpro]

I would like to note that at the initial stage of the operation, all kinds of destructive cases can occur. The task of the LS is to adapt, optimize or change tactics. These footage shows that the AFRF detachment was ambushed in urban areas. Apparently they decided to retreat in order to save the LS (normal move). In this canvas, I would like to note the highest professionalism of the experienced commanders of the republics who are now liberating Mariupol. This is top class.

[zadorin1974]

I specially climbed on different sites. More than half of the posted photos are Ukrainian equipment. There are no Krazov and Mazov in the RF Ministry of Defense. Gaz 66 has also been decommissioned. our equipment with raised MTO covers or with smudges of technical fluids under the engines and not so much. Ukrainians cannot wishful thinking. It pins something else. they pull. Homely la. Spread their stupid exploits from their phones.

[Awaz]

I also looked at the videos from the other side over the weekend. With ours, it doesn’t exist at all, except from the Donetsk guys, and then there are little things. I agree that most of the videos are one and the same from different angles, if it is actually destroyed or even abandoned equipment of the RF Ministry of Defense, it is not at all clear where the videos come from. There are even dramatizations when a man in the uniform of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is lying and a St. George ribbon is tied on his shoulder and presented as another murdered Chechen ..
But I'm not talking about that.
Why is not a single news agency of the Russian Federation engaged in exposing fakes and lies. Over the weekend I watched what UNIAN writes ... it's just crazy nonsense and everyone believes it. We expose the guys at their own peril and risk, enthusiasts who simply cannot verify many points, since there is no official data from the Ministry of Defense on these facts.
It is clear that an adequate person is smart enough to distinguish between lies and truth, but not many people pay attention to the nuances and perceive, albeit with doubt, but still what those who put up the video and do to it want to show
comment.
But all the same, maybe now they have become more careful, but for the first two or three days ours were substituted as best they could and helped those who produce fakes.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: AwaZ

I agree that most of the videos are the same from different angles

Dial in YouTube - a broken column in Bucha (near Gostomel). Or, too, you say Banderlog dragged their BMDs, painted tactical signs V and gouged with artillery?

[lucul]

Or, too, you say Banderlog dragged their BMDs, painted tactical signs V and gouged with artillery?

And why is it difficult to paint the letter Z on broken equipment? )))
Since this photo shows only the edge of the car with a drawn letter (why didn’t they go further and remove the car in all its “glory”?), and not the whole car as a whole - this is a 100% fake.
Designed for emotions (emotional perception of the picture), and not for facts. In fact, it is enough for a Ukrainian to see the edge of a car with a drawn letter, and a verdict will immediately be issued in his brain - the car is Russian.
This method of cheap manipulation, designed for emotional perception (thanks to the pre-emphasized details of the picture), and not for reliable facts and analytical thinking, is typical for the Ukrainian side.

[Awaz]

I saw this video. Somewhere else he slipped from a different angle about Bucha. I don't analyze and parse. the same stupidity as in Kharkov. Although there was rather a pre-prepared ambush that was waiting for a group walking down the street. All the fighters were dismounted and it is obvious that there were not so many victims, if any. In any case, there are no bodies on the video.
There is also a video showing the blowing up of a bridge-laying column. Well, there was clearly a grandiose ambush with a powerful land mine.
there is also enough video with abandoned equipment. There are no bodies or any damage from weapons in most cases. But there is a video where stupid Ukrainians undermine abandoned equipment, often their own, from grenade launchers or English anti-tank systems (it’s not a pity to see the money) A vivid example of the T 64 Tank, next to which there is an armored car, either a Tiger or xs .. Filmed specially in poor quality and it is clearly visible that the operator is waiting standing very close in front of the tank and the grenade launcher is shooting almost point-blank in the side. Then people post videos from DVRs from this place and everyone understands that they knocked out their own abandoned tank.
There is also a video of very low quality, it seems, with burned Kamaz trucks, but experienced people say that this is MAZ Bogdan ... And so on.
I personally really don’t like that the RF Armed Forces are often substituted and then the guys from the remnants of Ukraine make a hype on this ..

[Archivist Vasya]

I saw such a video, it’s like our convoy, but who rode it and whether it rode - the question is, there are no bodies. Moreover, the column stands on the street of the city, the neighboring houses are also crumbled. And in the end, the operator, who swears all the way, bumps into two of ours? (white bandage on the sleeve), quietly standing next to the BMP / BMD. In general, the question is more and more.

[Prometey]

Yes, about this column in Bucha there are more questions than answers? There is a bunch of mutilated equipment, it is not clear whose. And I already wrote - nowhere - neither on the pavement nor on the equipment there is no blood, not even drops. Not to mention the wounded and dead. It looks like the cars have all been abandoned. And 100% this is not a column of regular forces of the Russian Armed Forces - there is no heavy equipment at all - not a single tank or infantry fighting vehicle. In short, maybe someday we will find out what kind of column and what happened there.

[Bayun]

ANY (!) information in an offensive military operation plays into the hands of the enemy. Well done - ours. Taken into account.

Curious - will be killed, then in their memoirs they will read how and what happened. But in real life, the adversary has panic and confusion from "misunderstandings".

It would be nice to transfer our media to "martial law", so that without a go-ahead from "Comrade Colonel" no stories would be broadcast. If done, I approve.

[Thrifty]

Ratmir Ryazan - if war, part of the photo is fake, pulled from the Internet. Part of the equipment is due to a banal breakdown, or lack of fuel!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Ratmir Ryazan - if war, part of the photo is fake, pulled from the Internet. Part of the equipment is due to a banal breakdown, or lack of fuel! hi

At first I thought so too, but today I was talking to a guy from the Bryansk region, he said that before the operation they caught deserters.

For some, the army is just a job, for money and a career, and in case of war they are not going to do their duty.

Unfortunately, this is also in our army.

Abandoned vehicles are deserters. They were just afraid to run away from the unit, but during the march they fell behind and dumped them, leaving the equipment behind.

Yes, it is inconvenient to talk about it, but it is necessary and necessary to punish it to the fullest extent. Because of these traitors, our equipment falls into the hands of the enemy and these facts reduce the morale of those who risk their lives to do their duty!!!

[Sir Galant]

fellow countryman, would you like to find you and beat your ass for fakes?

[Dilettante grandfather]

Will you provide evidence? Or "gentlemen take their word for it"? Please, photo / video with an abandoned T-14 tank.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

That our soldiers also do not receive orders and do not understand what to do

What do you want from most of the unexplored boys of the gadget age?
For them, it’s “cool” to shoot at the ranges, the targets will not be thrown in response with a “hail”, they will not answer.
Even the most motivated and trained paratroopers (skydiving is a certain risk), being under artillery fire, will not be able to do anything but take cover and hope for luck.
The calculations of the GSh were built according to the Soviet methodology - this is a mistake.

The current fighters, in the overwhelming majority, came to the army for money and are not ready to "die" if they are given the choice to "lie down as one" or fuck off.

[konstantin68]

Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich

The calculations of the GSh were built according to the Soviet methodology - this is a mistake.

Well, well, well ... And where is this technique used, are you our strategist?
The question is just like that, did you have to "participate"? Do you know how it happens from the inside? What kind of wave of conflicting orders sometimes pours on a company commander? Just because things are changing?
Of course, it is more visible from the sofa, I understand.

[Nikon O'Conor]

By the way, I’m warming up the engine of my BBD (combat armored sofa), next to cover the air defense, my combat cat will ride on the combat chair.
This is so for the sake of detente ... otherwise it has heated up with us dumb here.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, I agree, abandoned equipment is deserters.

For this term should be given as for murder.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Yes, I agree, abandoned equipment is deserters.

Do not exaggerate.
It just means the unit's weak combat stability.
Veterans of the ATO fighters came out against the unshooted guys with incomprehensible motives - of which there have been quite a few accumulated over 7 years. Motivated by propaganda and the defense of their statehood, against unshooted boys - the result is predictable. But the General Staff did not calculate it.
Now they will change tactics, cover the columns with turntables and losses will drop sharply ..
Nothing pleases a soldier so much as his own turntable over his head and artillery nailing the enemy. And experience is cumulative.
Putin's operation is doomed to success.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Well, maybe you are right to some extent, but something still needs to be done with the deserters and they need to be held accountable, otherwise everything can be justified, they say the enemy is simply motivated to fight, and we did it out of fear and abandoned the equipment for tens of millions of non-rubles and abandoned their comrades in the war.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

and don't know what to do?

Oh, children, children...

[ZeeD]

Mostly abandoned equipment after clashes on both sides. Just abandoned sometimes found in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I just didn’t see one abandoned by the RF Armed Forces. Fakes don't count.

[konstantin68]

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Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

why so many abandoned equipment of the Russian army?

I will answer you. You are on the march. Former military equipment, that is, standing in boxes for such cases. A simple moment, the BMP stalled, it does not start. The air was spent, the battery is enough for a couple of starts. Your actions?
So no one even shot at you.
Now the introduction can be complicated. Continue?

[koramax81]

There is a rapid advance of troops to carry out operational tasks. No one will stand and wait for broken or damaged equipment. They just leave it - then they take it away

[cat-begemot]

Behind is the 2nd echelon, they will pick up the faulty one. It’s easier to write off the damaged one, plus, maybe it has explosive lures, beacons. And there’s no point in wasting time and resources on unsuccessful directions.
There is also reconnaissance in force - the enemy illuminated firing points, the number of barrels, means of communication.

[tank64rus]

And he touched it with his hands. Tired of fecomets. One already rode a tank through the Kremlin and the Arbat. As my urki used to say at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, that it is necessary to answer for the bazaar.

[Vladimirets]

Well, I have already seen this video with comments that "the local lads covered up the occupation tide." Again evil...

[S_Baykala]

the most common orders are to place military equipment in forest plantations or in residential areas and “wait for the enemy to appear” to strike.
These are still flowers: soon they will be chained to machine guns or equipment, like the Nazis at the end of the war.

[prior]

What they throw is understandable.
But why is it so incompetently presented in our media?
The right plot will help save the lives of not only the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but more importantly the lives of our guys.

[bk316]

But why is it so mediocrely presented in our media

But this is a good question. I have 3 answers.
1. but because they are not quite ours.
2. but because girls and boys who hardly passed the exam and went to work in these media do not know how to do it differently, everything is mediocre there, not only about this.
3. but because the majority of the population does not understand, this is a war and it's time to wake up. And this applies to any work and to journalists and programmers and janitors and teachers.

[tihonmarine]

. A typical option for the Maidan authorities, when civilians try to cover up their own criminal acts.

All according to the "wise teachings" of their teachers who declared "total war" in Germany. Every one of the points one to one work in Ukraine, everything is a blueprint.

[Romario_Argo]

In cases of rapid advance of Russian troops

I liked it
Our tactics of using troops are different
Cobalts hang over Ukraine for 120 kilometers and all movements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are recorded at the platoon-squad level, up to the DRG
UAVs, AWACS also work - all this works in the interests of General Staff analysts
Then they work out - turntables, attack aircraft, bombers, ALCMs, SLCMs, OTRK, MLRS, self-propelled guns 152-mm / 204-mm
Then the area is cleared by the DRG SSO (former fighters of the Special Forces GRU Brigades)
Then comes military reconnaissance on the Tigers, Wolves, Typhoons
and only after all of the above - motorized riflemen, tankmen, self-propelled guns, rszo, engineer
Then parts of the Russian Guard are pulled up - they take the rear under guard
and only then parts of the support and the commandant's office with the Chekists

[S_Baykala]

Our tactics of using troops are different
If so, that's just great. With such tactics in open areas, countermeasures tend to be zero. But here are the cities .... That's where the smut is unreal. How will ours act there, x.z. Onromnaya hope for the professionalism of developers and performers.

[Romario_Argo]

cities are an UNREAL topic
therefore they are not taken, or rather, not all, or rather, not all Special Forces are enough
we starve, negotiate different, so as not to demolish everything under the foundation

[Evil543]

Judging by the work of the APU near Kharkov, our artillery does not work well if a civilian arrives. Where is the application of lancets and so on. Can they only be used in Syria?

[Romario_Argo]

application lancets in dense urban areas, it is tantamount to detonating a 122-mm shell in the yard - it will take out all the windows in houses, and on the street at night minus 5
it is possible to use only the DRG MTR and military intelligence, and as an option, the Special Forces of the FSB

[Foul skeptic]

Yes, only it will hit where it is needed, and not a 122 mm package will hit at random, as is happening now in Kharkov.

[Romario_Argo]

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation DO NOT fire from the MLRS of the city, and even more so Kharkov
at night -5 degrees - it will be cold for people
what are you talking about in your mind (?)

[Foul skeptic]

Unfortunately, the RF Armed Forces had no choice. There are no other tools.

[Romario_Argo]

against wooden Nazi scrap - there is tungsten scrap SPN SSO, FSB, GRU

[Foul skeptic]

These are slogans. Perhaps they are pleasant and easier to live with.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: Romario_Argo

it is possible to use only the DRG MTR and military intelligence, and as an option, the Special Forces of the FSB

In cities with millions of people?
There is no less than a division needed for each.
To Kyiv - Corps.
Where can you find so many trained SSOs?
First, to crush the resistance, then "clean up" - this is not fast and not without losses.

[Romario_Argo]

Where can you find so many trained SSOs?

SpN FSB with ATC
they have excellent armored suits Voin-KM 32 kg protection 90% holds 7,62x54
Defender, Hussar, Fort, Gladiator from Fort technology 60% keep the same 7,62x54

[Captain45]

Quote: Romario_Argo

we have a different tactic of using troops
Cobalts hang over Ukraine for 120 kilometers and all movements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are recorded at the platoon-squad level, up to the DRG
UAVs, AWACS also work - all this works in the interests of General Staff analysts
Then they work out - turntables, attack aircraft, bombers, ALCMs, SLCMs, OTRK, MLRS, self-propelled guns 152-mm / 204-mm
Then the area is cleared by the DRG SSO (former fighters of the Special Forces GRU Brigades)

An excellent description of the classic actions of the army in modern conditions. But yesterday I asked a question and did not receive an answer - how is it that the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is still shelling the cities and towns of the DPR and LPR? Who is lying to whom? Rather, who is lying is understandable - the audience of listeners-spectators. But who is lying is already more interesting. Generals, TV journalists? According to the assurances of the General Staff, the LPR and DPR troops have already advanced 15-20 km. It turns out that the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has remained in their rear and is hammering at the cities. Regular cyborgs only without an airport.

[Foul skeptic]

how is it that the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is still shelling the cities and towns of the DPR and LPR? ... According to the assurances of the General Staff, the troops of the LPR and DPR have already advanced by 15-20 km. It turns out that the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has remained in their rear and is hammering at the cities.

There is really no contradiction here. You just need to look at the maps of the situation not from the "expert" Podolyaki. Promotion is only along the highways in four directions, yes, they have traveled several tens of kilometers there. But this does not mean that the entire line of contact has been pushed back.

[URAL72]

You don't seem to be in the military. There is no continuous offensive on all fronts. The DPR strikes south of Dokuchaevsk on Volnovakha with access to Mariupol. To the right of the breakthrough, the positions remain motionless for tens of kilometers along the front. From there they beat, but already smaller - weeding is weak, but regular. There is also an offensive in the north, but the sector indicated by me is not mobile. Very serious fortifications, minefields, we have fewer trained people than they do. It was. It is better to get out of the breakthrough to the rear than to break through the defenses through minefields. Everything has its time.

[Captain45]

Quote: Nefarious skeptic

You just need to look at the maps of the situation not from the "expert" Podolyaki.

Quote: URAL72

You don't seem to be in the military.

I don’t look at cards from a scoundrel, and I’m not a military man. He served urgently, and then for 20 years as an opera detective, so he got used to relying on facts. What are the declared goals of the operation: 1) protection of the people of Donbass; 2) demilitarization; 3) denazification of Ukraine. Didn't forget anything? So, to solve the first and main goal (especially since Gen.-M. Konashenkov officially announced the complete dominance of Ukraine in the sky), i.e. saving the people of the DPR and LPR from the artillery fire of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that it is impossible to plow the firing positions of cannon artillery batteries from the air of the BShU, especially since they have been standing there for more than a month, or even a year, and the coordinates are known. Yes, drop the parachute assault of the Kadyrov guards (they jumped to the North Pole from 10 thousand meters), let the heads of the surviving gunners be cut off for warning. This is a war, either to fight here, or there is nothing to stroke on a soft ... palm. fled. Damn it, everything and everyone they could have already imposed on us. Now, that they are afraid of condemnation for some wrong, from their point of view, actions. All the same, they are to blame, and to peck them in the tail and mane as much as possible. And if there is nothing to peck at, then what was the reason for starting this rampage, oh, a special operation? It was somehow sharper with the Georgians, and they talked about losses. And here the world is right around, as in Grozny in December 1994. And here, for the same 30 years, people have been hammered into the head that Ukraine is not Russia, and they are right now glad to the point of impossibility. After 3 years of independence, Chechnya was brought to its senses for 10 years, but here .... So we’ll manage the demilitarization of a year and a half if NATO partners don’t get involved, but oh, how difficult it will be with denazification ...

[Awaz]

that is, the National Guard on the Tigers in Kharkov, was it already the last stage of the cleansing or even the penultimate one? Then why are they still ambushed in Kharkov and under fire

[Romario_Argo]

The National Guard has not yet entered Kharkov, while the MTR and the GRU are moving in places, and somewhere there is military intelligence and air assault units, and somewhere there are motorized rifles,
but about tanks, this is visible on request as a gain

[sen]

In the event of a rapid advance of Russian troops, the Ukrainian military abandon heavy equipment with ammunition

So Suvorov taught this: speed, onslaught. Well, the headquarters must of course be destroyed.

[Saboteur_Navy]

Let me give you a little hint
Give instructions to the officers that they would not allow the residents trained by the enemy to block the roads in the cities, and even more so to give morals to the soldiers ... Shots in the air do not help in the legs, and they will stop right away! Otherwise, it is dangerous in general and causes a loosening of discipline, in the end they can attack unexpectedly, this is not a circus

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

Shots in the air, does not help in the legs, and immediately stop!

The GDR did just that. Poles and Czechs were more afraid than fire!

[Saboteur_Navy]

Yes, I liked the GDR army, training, discipline at its best, I remember their command in Afghanistan asked ours to be allowed to run in units, they did not agree in the USSR

[beeper]

Small-town bandera-fascist gangs of "territorial terror and robberies under the guise of defense" are blocking and blocking the supply of food to Ukrainian cities in order to sow chaos and panic, and make extra profit on speculation in products!

[Graz]

I believe that there is no need to take Ukrainian artillerymen prisoner in the Donbass, they must ''heroically'' die resisting

[flicker]

and the most common orders are the placement of military equipment in forest plantations or in residential areas

Like this

[jack no]

Le landau au dessus du drapeau russe est de trop, la Russie ne se sert pas de ce genre de bouclier.

[flicker]

nüdee archizh, ankhaaraltai azhigla

[rocket757]

In the event of a rapid advance of Russian troops, the Ukrainian military abandon heavy equipment with ammunition

. Everything is very different!
One thing is clear, you have to go to the end!

[Piramidon]

Fresh trophy. Donbass. The village of Talakovka, 8 km from Mariupol. Ukrainian "Warta". Thrown in one piece (only ramps pierced). The Donetsk guys have already put our identification marks on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyl9QQT4g7Y

[Prisoner]

They did it in vain. The sign is recognizable. There will be "eyewitnesses" who "saw" with their own eyes how generous Ukrainian lads heroically "blew up" the car of the "occupiers". Even in this topic, such "eyewitnesses" seem to be at least a couple.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Captive

They did it in vain. The sign is recognizable. There will be "eyewitnesses" who "saw" with their own eyes how generous Ukrainian lads heroically "blew up" the car of the "occupiers". Even in this topic, such "eyewitnesses" seem to be at least a couple.

Normal, smart people will distinguish "Varta" from "Tiger", and no one is interested in the opinion of stubborn banderlogs. It is designed for snotty bulk.

[rocket757]

Anything will happen ... but there are enough nitsiks to cause damage to our aircraft.
A pile of problems will only grow, and for everyone.
A lot was invested in propaganda, it could not work out in an easy one, it was clear for a long time.
Now it’s the only way, to go to the end ... they hope that the politicians there can act reasonably, no, no, they were not selected, trained for this ...
Moreover, they are already safe, closer to their stacked wealth ...

[Alex_You]

Wow, the machine was wrung out:

[Alex_You]

And a little more:
https://t.me/u_now/21565

[Karos]

So this is a photo from Pegov ..... a rememberer in the war in Karabakh, he also wrote that the Armenians had already won everything back and were going to marathon in Baku .... At the end of Pegov, he ran away, his heels sparkled .... Do not respect yourself to believe Pegov !! !

[Piramidon]

Quote: Karos

So this is a photo from Pegov ..... a rememberer in the war in Karabakh, he also wrote that the Armenians had already won everything back and were going to marathon in Baku .... At the end of Pegov, he ran away, his heels sparkled .... Do not respect yourself to believe Pegov !! !

Fu, again troll meat pulled. For your information and your entire troll company, this is not a photo. For such stubborn trolls as you, I gave a link to the video. But apparently malice will overwhelm you, admirer and lover of plants under the name dill. There are interviews with the militias. However, it is useless for a troll, especially a yellow-blaky or bulky one, to prove something. Walk on the "censor", anar, Do not stink here. There you, along with your manure, will be welcome

[usr01]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

even the Shell was seen thrown with Acacia

Myself? Personally? (Of course there is no evidence) ... And will you answer for the bazaar?

[Piramidon]

Quote: usr01

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

even the Shell was seen thrown with Acacia

Myself? Personally? (Of course there is no evidence) ... And will you answer for the bazaar?

Here it is well written about the information war. Pro-Ukrainian and pro-Western troll meat in VO is not badly dug in, and local admins are at war with those who are fighting this infection. You see, they cannot even be called "stoned trolls", an insult, however. Suddenly they will be offended and dumped from the site.

[iouris]

It doesn't mean anything if they send more. They solve the problem: to regroup manpower.

[jack no]

Il va falloir que j'aille en Ukraine faire quelques courses, au cas où j'en aurai besoin en France.

[IFFI from the EU]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

If I'm not mistaken, then for some reason there is a bottle from under our, Russian water on the video in the cockpit, and for some reason there are no numbers on the car.
These are the comments of those who carefully reviewed the video.

Personally, I don’t watch YouTube videos about the war in Ukraine, YouTube is a well-known cesspool.

[Naval]

Kharkiv is next!

[Roman Efremov]

Why this feudal fragmentation - you give Great New Russia!

[Sergey Melnik]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Why the Armed Forces of Ukraine abandons equipment is understandable, but why is there so much abandoned equipment of the Russian army?

They throw both tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, and even the Shell was seen abandoned with Acacia.

That our soldiers also do not receive orders and do not understand what to do?

Where did you see abandoned Russian equipment? In the Ukrainian fake sewer? Well, it means that you yourself like to climb through the garbage heaps and collect all the nonsense of the Nazis, who are only in the pictures and can still somehow fight. Or are you still such a naive child that you are not able to understand when buckets of lies are thrown in your face?

[Dr.LeaveSee]

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