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Dmitry Rogozin urged to "pray" for the Americans who decided to use the RD-180 rocket engine without Russian specialists

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The head of Roscosmos commented on the preparations in the United States for the use of the Russian RD-180 engine without Russia.


We are talking about the application of representatives of Lockheed Martin and Boeing that they are preparing to launch a rocket with a Russian rocket engine installed on it without the participation of Russian specialists from Energomash.

Jessica Rai, a spokeswoman for a joint venture created earlier in the United States from the two companies mentioned, said that the United States and Russia have an agreement on technical support for RD-180 engines and on the supply of components. However, according to J. Rye, “support may not be available, although the United States is able to safely and successfully solve this problem on its own and implement the Atlas V missile program.”

Dmitry Rogozin, commenting on the statements of the American side, expressed the hope that "the approach to the projectile will be successful."

According to the head of Roscosmos, the Russian engine has been used over 90 times, and all of these launches were successful:

The success statistic is unique. But these launches were accompanied by Energomash specialists.

Dmitry Rogozin writes on his personal page on the social network that now the Boeing company, which has already declared a fiasco with the Starliner manned spacecraft twice, “holding its breath, will enter flight tests for the third time.”

In such a situation, when the use of the Russian RD-180 will be carried out without the participation of Russian specialists, the head of Roscosmos called with irony to pray "for American friends."

Meanwhile, the United States was reminded that they ultimately planned to abandon the RD-180 and switch from Atlas V missiles to Vulcan missiles, which should fly on a methane BE-4. At the same time, the Atlas V use program is designed until 2025.
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  1. andrewkor
    andrewkor 1 March 2022 06: 32
    +10
    Rogozin is still that pea jester!
    1. just exp
      just exp 1 March 2022 06: 49
      +5
      and what are they minus? this body turned out under the leadership of a leader in the space industry, and as a result, all the achievements were squandered.
      he, as a journalist, thought that instead of engineering work, you can order the articles "Mask is a sucker" out of old memory and nothing will come of the Mask and the rockets will not take off.
      but if I were an engineer, instead of custom articles and jokes about a trampoline, I was doing business, you see, and the situation would be different.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 1 March 2022 06: 53
      +17
      Rogozin for the best to deal with their problems. What's going on with the Federation, or what is this spacecraft now called?
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 1 March 2022 09: 09
        +6
        Quote: Thrifty
        What's up with the Federation, or what's the name of this spaceship now?

        Oh, it's all right! But while in words. As usual with the master of Russian cosmonautics.
        He again gives a tooth that they will begin testing the flight copy of the Eagle in 2024. True, with a caveat - only after the test of the AC unit. The second point is that there is no regular carrier ("Angara-A5M") under this CC either, but it will definitely appear. Also in 2024. If it appears, the stump is clear.
        The matter is somewhat complicated by the fact that the vastness of the plans of the Republic of Kazakhstan must somehow be translated from words into a practical plane. In particular, to do also "Eaglet". Which, of course, is also not. There is also no carrier for the spacecraft Orlyonok yet, the Amur still needs to be made. As well as the return stage. But this case, as we understand it, is completely trifling. This is not a trampoline to build. By 2026 we will definitely do it. If the shooters from the Amur are not transferred back to the Angara. On a three-start, four-start and further down the list. After all, the plans of the Republic of Kazakhstan are now more difficult to understand than to solve the Rubik's cube.
        But if it's no joke, now, after the most powerful sanctions strike on the gold reserves, the future of Russian cosmonautics looms very sadly. The main question for today is where to get the money, Zin? For the implementation of the current FKP and the next one?
        1. Aleksandr Ivanov
          Aleksandr Ivanov 1 March 2022 23: 19
          +2
          Already abandoned the "Eagle". Now the light version is "Eaglet".
      2. alystan
        alystan 1 March 2022 13: 21
        0
        I recommend that you watch and listen (attentively!) to everything that Rogozin says in the Solovyov-Life program. It will not be about everything, but about a lot and, what is important, quite frankly.
        I myself am against the fact that "people from the outside" who have neither the appropriate education nor the proper competence fall into such positions. But after watching this video, I changed my opinion about it a little. But that's just my opinion.

        [Quote] [/ quote]
        1. Cosm22
          Cosm22 1 March 2022 17: 10
          -3
          Rogozin can say anything.
          The key question today is where to get the money? For there is such a thing as sequestration. Not only the entire budget, but also its individual sectors. the same FKP.
          So, when there is a shortage of medicines in pharmacies (I'm not talking about other things), no one will care about astronautics. And the salvation of a drowning man will be the work of hands - further down the original source.
          In the meantime... Let him talk. After all, writing and speaking is his main profession.
          1. Whatman
            Whatman 2 March 2022 22: 08
            0
            Not only money. Where to get technology? On a Soviet base, it will be difficult to challenge Musk
            1. choo-choo
              choo-choo 3 March 2022 16: 36
              0
              And what technologies have we been flying since 61? Let me remind you that mattress covers had a period when they stupidly had nothing to fly on after the shutdown of the "shuttle" program, there were 9 or 10 years that passed, I was broke to look. And now, if the Dragon, God forbid, gets into an accident on the ISS, they again stupidly have nothing to fly on, I think there will be no more places for them in the Union. On a Soviet base - I'm talking about the Union, you can fly for another 50 years (50 have already flown off) - an excellent and reliable ship, outlasted all competitors. All have sunk into oblivion - Apollo, Shuttle, and the Soyuz keeps flying and flying. How can you not look at the ISS, oh! - and there are always docked 1-2 Soyuz. Quiet, silent, no noise.
        2. 28st region
          28st region 3 March 2022 03: 39
          +1
          It was quite frank in the report of the Accounts Chamber, when he was called a specific prince, and about the fact that almost half of the budget of the space industry treats on the accounts of commercial banks, and Rogozin still requires more funding. Earlier, after such a conclusion of the Accounts Chamber, a person went to explore the Far Eastern expanses in Magadan to remove snow. And he tells everything frankly and very convincingly.
    3. Fitter65
      Fitter65 1 March 2022 06: 54
      +7
      Quote: andrewkor
      Rogozin is still that pea jester!

      Well, we remember about the trampoline. Well, what they want without our technical support is already a question. By agreement, only with our specialists, this is done for security purposes. Well, without ours, it can already be called piracy ... Well, another question worries me, what will Russian airlines fly on? Even in Russia, aircraft manufactured in Russia were abruptly abandoned at one time. The only type of Russian SuperJet is 80 percent assembled from foreign components. Well, okay, we launched the L-410. MS-21 - still beautiful far, albeit not very far, but not yet "it's already tonight" So thanks to those who destroyed their production with a joyful squeal - we can buy it. Well, it’s a joy for motorists, while AvtoVAZ still makes disposable Renaults with its emblem, but after all, supplies of components will soon stop and that’s it, we only have one UAZ and that one in a budget configuration, without Bosch electronics and other foreign bells and whistles. But what can we buy now? We do have experience. Until 1917, a lot was also supplied from abroad. But some fifteen years have passed and Russia did everything itself. So the main thing is to use the experience correctly.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 1 March 2022 08: 06
        +2
        Probably, they began to do everything themselves not by the beginning of the 30s, but by the middle to the end. On the other hand, in a number of industries, progress was already made in the second half of the 20s.
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 1 March 2022 08: 23
          +1
          Quote: Sergej1972
          Probably, they began to do everything themselves not by the beginning of the 30s, but by the middle to the end.

          Plus or minus is not so important after such a devastation. The very fact.
      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 1 March 2022 13: 43
        -6
        "...
        The only type of Russian SuperJet is 80 percent assembled from foreign components
        ..."
        - WAS collected..
        And since "everything flows" - then:
        26 February.
        "The branch of Irkut, which produces the SSJ-100, is working normally in accordance with the production program. Currently, there are a sufficient number of imported components in warehouses to continue mass production. In addition, in accordance with the import substitution program, in 2023 the first flight of an SSJ-new aircraft, which has a high percentage of components of domestic production. Thus, there is no threat of stopping production," the regional ministry said on its official Instagram page.
        .
        in a word - "do not knock your bald head on the parquet", the leader ...
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 1 March 2022 15: 11
          +1
          Quote: tikhonov66
          At present, there is a sufficient number of imported components in the warehouses to continue mass production. In addition, in accordance with the import substitution program, the first flight of the SSJ-new aircraft, which has a high percentage of domestically produced components, is planned for 2023. Thus, there is no threat to stop production," the regional ministry said on its official Instagram page.

          Young man, you shouldn't slap your cheeks with your ears. Well, Irkut has a sufficient number of components in warehouses - BUT IMPORTED, NOT RUSSIAN !!! It is clear to you that it is not RUSSIAN, but each component has its own certificate - which is revoked by the manufacturer and that's it. Consider that you have no spare parts in stock. We also read SSJ-New
          According to 2020 estimates, the development of the SSJ-New should be fully completed by 2023 and will cost 120-130 billion rubles, including the creation of the PD-8 engine (whose certification is hoped to be completed in 2023), which will spend about half of the allocated amounts. The type certificate is expected in 2023.
          As you can see, there are several keywords here, this MUST end, but as Russian reality shows, it is not always obliged. Again, they HOPE for the engine, but there are no guarantees that it will definitely be on time. So 2023 is not the deadline yet. Moreover, I plan to start producing it in 2024, but this is again based on the above data ...
    4. Bykov.
      Bykov. 1 March 2022 07: 13
      +2
      Quote: andrewkor
      Rogozin is still that pea jester!

      Oh really?
      1. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 1 March 2022 10: 37
        +1
        Quote: Bulls.
        Quote: andrewkor
        Rogozin is still that pea jester!

        Oh really?

        Rogozin is right, no doubt. But I will not feel sorry for mattress covers, as they say, everyone chooses his own.
    5. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 1 March 2022 13: 38
      -1
      "... Andrey Korchuganov
      Rogozin is still that pea jester!
      ..."
      - pea jester - it's YOU, Andrey Korchuganov,
      And Rogozin is the head of Roscosmos ...
      - learn the materiel, comrade Korchuganov ...
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    6. Snail N9
      Snail N9 1 March 2022 18: 05
      +1
      I agree, the "profound fabrications" of this clown are superfluous here .. Let him sing better ... or dance ... yes
    7. Berg berg
      Berg berg 2 March 2022 12: 43
      0
      The jesters here are local sofas, and those rockets from the military that are launched from various Russian spaceports hang on Ragozin and they take off well! Whoever gloats against our Space Forces and grins is the enemy of Russia!
      1. aglet
        aglet 2 March 2022 18: 12
        +1
        "and they take off well"
        if they take off well, then they did without Rogozin and Roskosmos
    8. 28st region
      28st region 2 March 2022 14: 29
      -2
      Destroyed everything possible. Of the first, they ended up in last place, but the ambition ......
  2. faiver
    faiver 1 March 2022 06: 34
    -17
    Dmitry Rogozin urged to "pray" for the Americans who decided to use the RD-180 rocket engine without Russian specialists
    - so far we have to pray, for every launch ... hi
    1. victor50
      victor50 1 March 2022 18: 15
      +4
      Quote: faiver
      Dmitry Rogozin urged to "pray" for the Americans who decided to use the RD-180 rocket engine without Russian specialists
      - so far we have to pray, for every launch ... hi

      Have you noticed how the mood has changed! Rogozin, from being criticized by everyone, immediately became respected by many, it was worth saying a few words on the topic that warm the soul, and it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. laughing And that in the space industry some problems are also nonsense. The main thing - blurted out into the topic! laughing
      1. faiver
        faiver 1 March 2022 18: 35
        +8
        The main thing - blurted out into the topic!
        - well, look how the cheers-patriots poured out minuses for me laughing , it’s good that Ukrainian agents don’t record ... laughing
        1. 28st region
          28st region 3 March 2022 03: 34
          +3
          Wait, this is just the beginning. Now regroup and move forward.
    2. aglet
      aglet 2 March 2022 18: 20
      +1
      "so far we have to pray, for every launch."
      calm down, Roskosmos has its own chief confessor, he performs all the ritual actions. Now the launch of rockets is carried out according to the following schedule - refueling - consecration, refueling with an oxidizer - prayer, broach 1-3 times, God have mercy, broach 2 - close your eyes and squeeze the cross, ignition - oh, it flew, thank the Lord, 3 times, God have mercy. amers, of course, it will be hard, they do not know these subtleties. the main pope will have to send to Cape Canaveral, otherwise the rocket will not take off, what will the partners think about us
      1. faiver
        faiver 2 March 2022 18: 23
        +1
        immediately remembered Negro services with songs and dances...
        1. aglet
          aglet 2 March 2022 18: 51
          -1
          "I immediately remembered Negro services with songs and dances .."
          oh so! but I was embarrassed...
  3. Eugen alpine
    Eugen alpine 1 March 2022 06: 34
    +12
    Amen. Astronauts are hostages of politicians. Crap times are here.
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 1 March 2022 07: 15
      0
      Quote: Eugen Alpine
      Amen. Astronauts are hostages of politicians. Crap times are here.

      Let's see how they will drive them into a rocket with a stick.
  4. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 1 March 2022 06: 47
    +4
    (Amen. Astronauts are hostages of politicians. Crap times are here.)
    The consequences of the life of a humpback with ebn ....
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 1 March 2022 10: 15
      +5
      Quote: ziqzaq
      The consequences of the life of a humpback with ebn ....

      belay Mattresses? wassat wassat wassat Trouble, trouble ... And, after all, four supported this game .. fellow laughing
  5. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 1 March 2022 07: 04
    +1
    ... "Dmitry Rogozin urged to "pray" for the Americans" ...
    I will pray for Russia and the Russians, but it is useless to pray for the servants of the devil, it will not help them, let them continue to worship the golden calf and preach vices such as same-sex marriage, homosexuality, transgender people and other perversions!
    angry
    1. alystan
      alystan 1 March 2022 13: 22
      +1
      Did you catch the sarcasm with the opposite meaning?
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 1 March 2022 07: 04
    +3
    If the RD 180 takes off, will many respect Rogozin's VO? Yes, this will not happen, the Americans will grit their teeth and work together with us.
    1. Eugen alpine
      Eugen alpine 1 March 2022 07: 09
      +1
      Hardly. He did not design these units, he did not build them, he did not risk his neck on them. So ... a worker with a mouth for big money. Everyone knows how to wang, you don’t need a lot of intelligence and you won’t earn respect for this.
      1. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 1 March 2022 13: 55
        0
        "...
        So ... a worker with a mouth for big money.
        ..."
        - I'm afraid that you STRONGLY UNDERSTAND the meaning of "bureaucracy" ...
        8-))
        - in the 50s, when the functions of the cell nucleus in a living cell were still incomprehensible, in addition to the fact that "cell reproduction is associated with the cell nucleus" and "without a nucleus, the cell dies" - the efforts of many biological laboratories were directed to studying the functions and structure cell nucleus.
        - And so, at one of the conferences on the cell nucleus - one of the speakers began his report like this:
        - The bureaucracy of our institute is like the nucleus of a cell:
        1) she, like the nucleus of the cell, PRODUCTS "self-similar"
        2) she, like the nucleus of the cell, carefully Hides ITS SECRETS
        3) and only having lost it - WE UNDERSTAND - WHAT IT MEANED for the work of our biological institute...
        8-)))
        .
        - so no need to "spit" on the bureaucracy.
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 1 March 2022 07: 19
      -2
      The Pentagon will simply transfer the contracts to Musk if the ULA themselves do not deal with the engine for which they have a complete set of documentation
      1. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 1 March 2022 13: 57
        +1
        "...
        The Pentagon will just hand over the contracts to Musk
        ..."
        - three times HA.
        In the sense that it is, of course, possible to convey something ... but will it be any good?
        8-))
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 2 March 2022 11: 09
          +3
          It would be good, the Pentagon would have long ago transferred)
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 2 March 2022 18: 34
            0
            There is sense, only the Pentagon does not like to offend Lockheed and the Boeing, and even in favor of some kind of immigrant from Africa without family and tribe
      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 1 March 2022 14: 34
        0
        "...
        if ULA themselves do not deal with the engine for which they have a complete set of documentation
        ..."
        - you see, dear ...
        You somehow DO NOT UNDERSTAND the essence of the "engine" of an ultra-high power liquid rocket ...
        - let me explain...
        In principle, everything is simple there - the "engine" is two pumps that pump fuel (one pump) and an oxidizer (another pump) into the "combustion chamber". In the "combustion chamber" - the fuel burns in the oxidizer, the combustion products (gases) create "high pressure" - and flowing through the NOZZLE - create a JET - pushing the engine NOZZLE in the direction opposite to the outflow of gases.
        - As you can see, everything is quite simple!
        8-))
        But the devil is in the details...
        1) The fact is that the pressure created by both pumps must be EXACTLY equal to the pressure of the gases in the combustion chamber. If it is less, then the engine power drops (along with the rocket). And if it is greater, then the intensity of combustion in the chamber increases along with the release of heat. If the pressure rises "not much" - then the rocket "only" - enters a DIFFERENT orbit. And if it grows a little more, then the engine overheats and explodes ...
        2) From item 1. it follows that the pressure in BOTH pumps must be regulated VERY ACCURATELY.
        3) And now you just need to show WHAT EXACTLY needs to be regulated "very accurately".
        Pump ... Yes, everyone knows what a pump is! The pump - it creates PRESSURE at the outlet (in atmospheres) and has a certain PERFORMANCE (in cubic meters / sec) - and, accordingly, requires a drive of a certain POWER (in watts). Well, the nozzle - it is necessary to cool - so as not to overheat ...
        ...
        Pump outlet pressure - 26 atmospheres
        Pump performance (total) - 2,5 cubic meters / sec
        Pump drive power - 180 watts (000 Mega (!) Watts)
        Heat flow so that the nozzle DOES NOT OVERHEAT - 50 Mega (!) Watts per square meter
        (car radiator - removes from a square meter - about 50 kilo (!) Watts).
        - and all this should work RELIABLE () without overheating and vibrations) in the volume of an average passenger car, developing a thrust of 200 tons (i.e. this unit should not "flatten" under a load of 200 tons - is it normal? 8-)
        .
        Therefore, THE SMALLEST MISTAKE (no matter where, no matter how) - and-PSE!!! - "a moment at sea" and this is not taking into account hundreds of tons of fuel overhead ...
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 1 March 2022 17: 57
          +3
          1. Why won't it make sense? Musk already has 8 launches this year, all of Russia has 3, all other Americans except Musk have 4.
          2. Sensors and control systems that are supplied in the USA are responsible for this. You don’t think that specialists in flight control everything with handles? wassat
      3. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 2 March 2022 18: 08
        +1
        Quote: BlackMokona
        The Pentagon will simply transfer the contracts to Musk if the ULA themselves do not deal with the engine for which they have a complete set of documentation

        Ha ha ha! The States have long wanted to create their own analogue of our RD ... but all the Wishlists remain Wishlists. For they cannot.
  7. Normann
    Normann 1 March 2022 07: 19
    -1
    They are sanctions for us, and we are their engines ... Capitalism in all its glory (
    1. your1970
      your1970 1 March 2022 18: 29
      +4
      Quote: Normann
      They are sanctions for us, and we are their engines ... Capitalism in all its glory (

      1972 ...
      At the height of the Cold War, NATO’s worst enemy in Germany, the USSR, is dragging a gas pipeline .... despite the sanctions, dragging
      Moreover, in the USSR - there was no capitalism and there were no oligarchs either ...
      1. Normann
        Normann 1 March 2022 18: 51
        0
        What year are we in? it's time to learn from the lessons that history has taught us.
        1. your1970
          your1970 1 March 2022 19: 11
          0
          Quote: Normann
          What year are we in? it's time to learn from the lessons that history has taught us.

          What conclusion can be drawn from the trade of the USSR with the worst enemy?
          is it bad or good
      2. kirosi
        kirosi 1 March 2022 23: 18
        0
        I'll tell you more, at the beginning of the 70s, the world's largest gas storage facility is being built (even before the start of the gas pipeline project in Germany, but obviously for this matter). Do you know where it is being built? In the Stavropol Territory! Do you know who was in charge then? Someone Gorbachev. So, with a high degree of certainty, it can be argued that the same people who "dragged" the USSR into this project with gas for Europe, which was a direct (!) sabotage against the USSR, that these same people brought Gorbachev to power. And another touch, I read the memoirs of a high-ranking Soviet diplomat who, somewhere in 84, when no one in Moscow had yet considered Gorbachev as a chief secretary, Bush (then vice president) asked a strange question like "what about Gorbachev, who will be your next President" or something like that. VAot and think HOW it all was in reality.
        1. aglet
          aglet 2 March 2022 18: 38
          -1
          "I'll tell you more, at the beginning of the 70s, the world's largest gas storage facility is being built (even before the start of the gas pipeline project in Germany, but clearly for this matter). Do you know WHERE it is being built? In the Stavropol Territory!"
          so what? in the Stavropol Territory there was a large gas field, which by this time was almost completely burned in Moscow stoves. on the released volumes, they began to build storage facilities for storing Siberian and Turkmen gas, on the basis of the Stavropol UGS facility, gasification was going on in the south of Russia, the Caucasus, Georgia, Armenia, and, of course, Moscow. But what about Gorbachev?
          1. kirosi
            kirosi 2 March 2022 20: 47
            0
            UGS facilities were being gasified in the south of Russia, Transcaucasia, Georgia, Armenia, and, of course, Moscow. But what about Gorbachev?
            If you didn't understand, without preparation, in particular through the construction of this UGS facility, the project of gas export to Europe was not viable. For "gasification of the south of Russia, etc., this was not required: it is much more efficient to use local, that is, directly on site, small UGS facilities. Moreover, the ideology of building a unified gas supply system in the USSR did not require large storage facilities at all (!) in essence is the system itself.
            Why Gorbachev? Naturally, those who did this not only knew him well, but also probably began to control him at some point. Moreover, all (!) these projects and subsequent political events, including perestroika and the collapse of the USSR, were thought out and carefully prepared.
            By the way, it was in the early 70s that "big oil" began to flow, they began to build the Druzhba oil pipeline. Nuance: in the mid-70s, Poland (!) concludes in England (!) a contract for the construction of tankers in the amount of 250 million. pounds. Can you imagine what that amount was then? But where is Poland, and where is the oil? What were they going to carry? That is, it was their "project".? Well, let's remember the Solidarity trade union and its leader Walesa - an agent of the Polish special services. Do you know how it started? The workers were unhappy that they did not pay bonuses! And the bonuses were not paid because the Gdansk shipyards were not loaded, they were idle. Like this.
            1. aglet
              aglet 3 March 2022 12: 59
              -1
              "If you don't understand, without preparation, in particular through the construction of this UGS facility, the project to export gas to Europe was not viable. For" gasification of southern Russia, etc. this was not required: it is much more efficient to use local"
              it was much cheaper to just lay a pipe from Tyumen or Ashgabat to Germany (initially, the gas pipe was called, for Germany, it was mainly designed, there was no EU then, or, as it is now, a pipe from Yamal to Poland). this is not a basement to dig, and not even the Black Sea. an artificial underground hermetic structure of a huge volume is not just that, therefore, depleted gas fields are used, there are none south of Stavropol (in general), therefore, gasification of these areas was carried out on the basis of the Stavropol UGS.
              "Moreover, the ideology of building a unified gas supply system in the USSR did not require large storage facilities at all (!)"
              Did you come up with this yourself, or did you read it somewhere?
              in Russia, gas is not growing everywhere, but only in certain areas, in the USSR it was exactly the same. You can’t stretch a pipe from each individual well to each individual city, it’s inconvenient and expensive, which is why UGS facilities were built to receive and process gas from fields, store it, smooth out seasonal (or emergency) peak loads, and supply it to consumers. in addition to storage facilities and pipes, there is a very developed infrastructure, in particular, compressor stations, without which the movement of gas in the right direction is impossible. one pipe, instead of UGS will give nothing - compare the volumes of gas consumption, the volume of the pipe (main) and all UGS. with all my disrespect for Gorbachev, the decision to create the Stavropol UGS facility was made not by him, but by the Minister of the Gas Industry of the USSR Kortunov. and not to increase gas exports, but to solve problems with gasification in the USSR
  8. Slap
    Slap 1 March 2022 07: 23
    -3
    What is the type of trampoline again? Hasn't this backfired already?
  9. riwas
    riwas 1 March 2022 07: 57
    +3
    Dmitry Rogozin urged to "pray" for the Americans who decided to use the RD-180 rocket engine without Russian specialists

    Rogozin is far from Korolev.
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 1 March 2022 14: 39
      0
      "...
      Rogozin is far from Korolev
      ..."
      - "Pique vests" from the "Golden Calf" by Ilf and Petrov immediately come to mind.
      Well they talked there:
      - Read about the conference on disarmament? - addressed one pique vest to another pique vest. - Speech by Count Bernstorf.
      “Bernstorf is the head!” - asked vest answered in such a tone as if he was convinced on the basis of many years of familiarity with the graph. “Have you read what speech Snowden made at a meeting of voters in Birmingham, this stronghold of conservatives?”
      - Well, what to say ... Snowden is a head! Listen, Valiadis, - he turned to the third old man in Panama. - What do you say about Snowden?
      “I will tell you frankly,” replied Panama, “Don't put your finger in my mouth.” I personally would not put my finger.
      And, in no way embarrassed that Snowden would not have allowed Valiadis to put a finger into his mouth for anything, the old man continued:
      - But whatever you say, I will tell you frankly - Chamberlain is also the head.
      eight-))))
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 March 2022 08: 10
    -1
    The United States is capable of independently safely and successfully solving this problem and implementing the Atlas V missile program.
    Yes, and a flag for you ... on coffins
  11. Pushkowed
    Pushkowed 1 March 2022 08: 15
    +2
    It is necessary, in the order of counter-sanctions, to prohibit them from launching military loads on previously delivered engines. And to threaten to have "special influence" on what will be launched in violation of this ban. And let them guess which one (laser, electronic warfare, visits of "satellite inspectors" with the subsequent failure of key nodes, etc. ...).

    And the BE-4 engines from Jeff Bezos, meanwhile, are slipping something ...
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 2 March 2022 11: 05
      0
      Bezos apparently forces designers to work 14 hours a day for $8 an hour, and run around. Since it doesn't work very well with constructors...
      1. kostavit
        kostavit 2 March 2022 14: 43
        -1
        I do not mind 8 dollars, or can I bargain?
  12. Pereira
    Pereira 1 March 2022 08: 44
    +2
    I have not heard anything about the trampoline for a long time. What's wrong?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 1 March 2022 08: 52
      +1
      Successfully and regularly flies. At the moment, the Dragon-2 spacecraft is docked to the ISS during the SpaceX Crew-3 mission. If you are talking about a rocket, not a ship. That Falcon-9 successfully flew into space 8 times this year alone, for comparison, all of Russia over the same period 3 times.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 1 March 2022 09: 55
        +1
        I'm talking about the Rogozinsky trampoline.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 1 March 2022 09: 57
          +1
          Well, funding was cut to him even before the start of the war. Here you need to wait what will happen after the next budget is adopted. In any case, the grown will have to switch to survival mode. And it’s still unclear what will happen to manned astronautics, if the ISS is closed tomorrow, then there’s still nowhere to fly.
    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 1 March 2022 14: 48
      -2
      "...
      I have not heard anything about the trampoline for a long time. What's wrong?
      ..."
      - Duc TOPIC - not interested ...
      Rogozin told YOU that
      "it is possible to raise the ISS orbit ONLY by the engines of our PROGRESS cargo ship."
      - and the ISS (due to the panels of solar panels) - has a VERY LARGE surface / windage - therefore it is very much slowed down both by the "remnants of the atmosphere" and by the pressure of (sun) light.
      - and therefore requires a REGULAR (once a month) "orbit lifting".
      And without our "progress" - 500 tons of the ISS will collapse very quickly - either on the USA, or on Europe, or on the ocean.
      - Over Russia - the ISS orbit - does not pass ...
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 1 March 2022 17: 51
        +3
        The Americans have already raised the ISS orbit with the help of their Signus spacecraft. Therefore, Rogozin simply showed his complete incompetence once again. True, he himself boasts to her that the head of Roscosmos is the only position where you do not need to be a specialized specialist.
        https://tass.ru/kosmos/5363408
        11 JUL 2018, 00:31
        Correction of the ISS orbit using the engine of the Cygnus spacecraft was successful

        "The correction was successful," he said. As a result of the 50-second activation of the ship's engines, the station's flight altitude rose by 295 feet (about 90 meters). The ship's engine was running normally."
  13. Long dead.
    Long dead. 1 March 2022 11: 23
    -4
    And what is left for him? He needs to be shot like a dog that he sold the technology and engines to them .. Now there are sanctions from them, but what about us? Prayers?
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 2 March 2022 11: 02
      0
      He didn't sell. Found someone to sell. You've been dead for too long.
  14. iouris
    iouris 1 March 2022 12: 22
    -1
    Continues to pray for the Americans and calls others. Why doesn't he like the Spaghetti Monster?
  15. Awaz
    Awaz 1 March 2022 19: 52
    -3
    Well, you don’t have to spit on Rogozin at all. From the moment he came to manage Roskosmos, everything that is planned is, at the very least, launched or produced. In any case, there is some movement. Those jambs that have been done before him, he, although very slowly, but moves. We don’t know what is the reason for the slow work, but the fact that before him they also slowed down or stopped everything in general, and with his arrival something stirred. Again, you need to understand that some projects have been "developed" for decades and there are moments that are outdated or have lost their relevance. This also needs to be understood.
    The most important thing is that there are no accidents ... And this is the best thing that happens.
  16. kirosi
    kirosi 1 March 2022 23: 03
    0
    In vain he is. Boeing - one of the few Western "partners" - is really valuable and as loyal as possible. It is clear that they look with the same eyes as the whole West, etc., but this, in general, is a priori a fairly loyal view. From the statement of the press secretary it is clear that they themselves consider this situation undesirable and are not going to refuse to cooperate. By the way, if I didn’t miss anything, then, unlike Airbus, the supply of which, including components, was authorized for us, Boeings are still available to us and I think a considerable merit in that very company, however, with their maintenance and, above all, for engines also a problem.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 2 March 2022 10: 59
      0
      Quote from kirosi
      Boeing - one of the few Western "partners" - is really valuable and as loyal as possible.

      But this is not because the design bureau that designed the last two Boeings is located in Moscow? And in which, for a colossal salary of 50 thousand not at all dollars, only Russian specialists work. Of course, Russia does not need these specialists at all, because "we will sell oil and buy everything for ourselves." But Boeing needs it. For a beggarly wage, which in the United States, even the cleaner of the zero floor of Boeing buildings will consider too small.
      Oh well...
      1. kirosi
        kirosi 2 March 2022 11: 34
        +1
        I don’t know what salaries are there, I think, nevertheless, the figure that you voiced is for a student on an internship (which, by the way, is not bad, especially now most companies do not pay interns at all). As far as I read, they really design separate ones for the Boeing, and secondary ones, although there is nothing particularly secondary in the plane, knots, etc., but the phrase "the last two Boeings" is you not just "turned over", but overturned
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 2 March 2022 12: 03
          +2
          Well, here I am. From 45 to 55t.r. And that's all. Where to go to an aircraft engineer who has the highest qualifications, but is not needed by his country? A foreign country no longer needs it, because reasonable countries train and promote their engineers. And the Americans did not miss either their own, or, of course, someone else's. Is it in vain that they paid bribes to the government so that only them and European planes would fly in our sky?
  17. Aleksandr Ivanov
    Aleksandr Ivanov 1 March 2022 23: 28
    +1
    You said correctly . Responsibility for an emergency situation with the engine is removed from the manufacturers. Insurance for failure, no one will pay. Maybe the Yusov masters of the fitting mixed up?
    Even manufacturers of gas boilers refuse a guarantee if the gas boiler (household) is not installed by the gas service. And here is not a gas boiler.
  18. Mungut
    Mungut 2 March 2022 05: 53
    0
    Well, on the one hand. Americans will not be able to understand the inscription in small print - Refine with a file.
  19. seacap
    seacap 2 March 2022 10: 38
    0
    And what else to expect from a failed journalist who imagines himself to be the Queen or the local Mask, without even realizing how ridiculous he is. He did not think that there are a lot of specialists there who we do not need, but are very much in demand in the world, both ours and independent from our aerospace enterprises defeated by effective managers.
  20. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 March 2022 10: 55
    0
    Where are these specialists now? Territorial? If they are in the US, they will either become American citizens or disappear without a trace. As it was not. Rogozin took care of them?
  21. Vladimir A
    Vladimir A 2 March 2022 11: 40
    0
    *in the end, they planned to abandon the RD-180 and switch from the Atlas V missiles to the Vulcan, which should fly on the methane BE-4* - for now, there is no Vulcan, there is no BE-4 .. well, how they like and Americans know how to paint the picture "how cool we're going to play right now" - we know.
  22. Maks1995
    Maks1995 2 March 2022 12: 59
    0
    IMHO, it seems that "Effective Manager" once again said without thinking.
    Let's wait for what comes out.
  23. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 2 March 2022 18: 12
    0
    I don’t understand why they attacked Rogozin, who warned the mattress makers that without our specialists it would be fraught to set up the RD-180 by ourselves. For not knowing the ford, do not poke your head into the input. What they will be able to pick up there, God only knows.
    1. faiver
      faiver 2 March 2022 18: 26
      +1
      why did you warn?
      1. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 2 March 2022 22: 24
        0
        Quote: faiver
        why did you warn?

        Might feel sorry for them...
  24. Alexfly
    Alexfly 2 March 2022 18: 26
    0
    What, did they really take the right sledgehammers with them ?? Now, with the secret gone, where to jump, Schaub sat well, it would not be possible to overcome gravity ...
  25. VALERON99RUS
    VALERON99RUS 2 March 2022 21: 45
    0
    To condition, bring with a file.!!!!
    And then the pan will come out again
  26. AML
    AML 3 March 2022 00: 40
    0
    Quote: Whatman
    Not only money. Where to get technology? On the Soviet base it will be difficult to challenge the Mask
    With such insider information, figs with her, with the base