The Ukrainian command and the media were reminded how the events near Ilovaisk and Debaltseve were given out for countless victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions

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The Ukrainian command and the media were reminded how the events near Ilovaisk and Debaltseve were given out for countless victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions

Abandoned Ukrainian military equipment in Kherson


The publications of the Ukrainian mass media during the days of the Russian special operation to demilitarize Ukraine attract special attention. The main message of the Ukrainian press, not to mention the Ukrainian segment of social networks and instant messengers, which received a fair amount of foreign financial support, is that “the Ukrainian army inflicts one defeat after another on the enemy.” The same photos are published with several wrecked armored vehicles, army vehicles, reports are presented about “countless” saboteurs who allegedly managed to capture or neutralize.



Then it often turns out that the detained "saboteur" is provided by an employee of the SBU or an ordinary citizen who, not knowing about the curfew introduced, ended up on the street in the evening. But for Maidan propaganda, this is no longer important.

Of course, the Ukrainian side will not write about its abandoned equipment in a hurry. And if something does get into the media, then with “polishing” in the form of glorification and sacralization, with protruding ears of an outright fake. One of the examples is the “posthumous award” of the Ukrainian soldiers who surrendered from the Zmeiny Island. Desacralization brought the Maidan leadership into a state of impotent rage - after all, such a myth was thwarted by the Russian Navy ...

In this regard, the Ukrainian media in the comments recalled how information was provided in 2014 and 2015, when the events near Ilovaisk and Debaltseve took place. Caught in the ring ("cauldron"), the Ukrainian military, without supplies, counted the hours until the fateful denouement for themselves, and at that moment in Kyiv they cheerfully trumpeted about "bridgeheads" and "victories won." And when the Ukrainian troops and national battalions, who came under attack from different directions, barely made their way through the organized humanitarian corridors, throwing weapon, personal belongings - just to save a life - the Ukrainian command, together with the media, constantly reported: “The enemy suffered heavy losses. Our troops are regrouping, retreating behind pre-prepared positions for a counteroffensive.

When the truth was revealed, and when real, not fake, data began to appear about what happened to the Ukrainian troops near Debaltseve and Ilovaisk, they traditionally began to look for the guilty. A new “national leader” was also found, who during the election campaign said that all those responsible would be punished, and the war in Donbas would be stopped.

For the Ukrainian media and Maidan elites, this is symptomatic, especially against the backdrop of today's events.
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  1. +20
    27 February 2022 09: 34
    Yes. With fake throws, the overpowerers filled up everything. the main message is that the defense is standing, the losses of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have been inflicted more. and the argument "the network is full of videos." Some fantastic hopes are placed on the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis will take up defense in large cities and they will not have anything there, because the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation promised not to shoot at civilians. A new mantra, hopes for "bayraktars" and "jabelins" have already been forgotten. Fortunately, General Shamanov has already spoken. The person who was able to take Grozny with a dilapidated army somehow understands military affairs better than bloggers. There will be no assaults. In general, everything goes on as usual. We count the days and wish good luck to our guys. Happy Holidays SSO!
    1. +8
      27 February 2022 09: 47
      Actually, right now the RF Armed Forces are storming Kharkov. There are already frames in the Telegram channel VO good
      1. +7
        27 February 2022 09: 55
        I am amazed by the authors of these videos. Is it fearlessness, or a complete lack of self-preservation instinct, or stupidity? There is a fight, somewhere that explodes, shots are heard. And they stand at the windows and take pictures. as if they do not understand that anything can fly into this window. Yes, even just a blast wave hits the window, you won’t be happy.
        1. +19
          27 February 2022 10: 01
          Well, the people are not tritely frightened ... This is a learned people in the Donbas, for 8 years even the most stupid could understand simple truths, but here they only know about the war that it is going on somewhere and it’s scary.
        2. +1
          27 February 2022 13: 30
          Quote: Vasily Onischuk
          I am amazed by the authors of these videos. Is it fearlessness, or a complete lack of self-preservation instinct, or stupidity?

          Now I don’t know how to characterize it., but of course this definitely cannot be compared with military photos / newsreels from the times of the Great Patriotic War ... I don’t know how true it is, but there is a rumor that, like Stalin himself said, correspondents should shoot only the truth and no staged shots should not be shown in timelines.
        3. PPD
          0
          28 February 2022 10: 51
          Of course they don't understand.
          From where, if from each iron it rushed, and it rushes about crushing victories. There are no losses. And everyone sees this - since there are no fights, there are no coffins coming. They do not perceive war as a hard and bloody thing.
      2. +4
        27 February 2022 09: 56
        Already enter the city, surrender, but not all.
      3. +8
        27 February 2022 10: 17
        Quote: LifeIsGood
        Kharkov is storming

        For three days the Ukrainians have been howling about the assault. There is no assault there (at least according to the videos that I came across), there is a targeted suppression of foci and attempts to break through on the outskirts. Moreover, they tried to pass off the APU convoy leaving Kharkov as an assault, naturally not forgetting to report 100500 dead in the RF Armed Forces when this column was burned. In fairness, I note that the information is extremely fragmentary, the soldiers of the RF Armed Forces were generally banned from any correspondence and posts about the database, so we only see videos of the Armed Forces of Ukraine / national battalions and civilians
      4. +2
        27 February 2022 11: 53
        Quote: LifeIsGood
        RF Armed Forces Kharkov stormed
        Look at the meaning of the word "storm" before writing this.
        Sturm (German: Sturm - attack, attack), is a way of capturing a fortress, a city or a strongly fortified position, consisting in a quick attack by large forces.
        There has never been and is no attack by large forces on Ukrainian cities.
        1. -1
          27 February 2022 20: 59
          Even 8 years ago it was impossible to "take" him - only a special operation - the destruction of the leadership - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHY3M77wOmY they worked on this column through space, - American satellite guidance
    2. +1
      27 February 2022 09: 54
      Right. The Armed Forces of Ukraine valiantly hide in the cities, knowing that they will not be stormed. Well, let them sit there! They will have one misfortune when, due to the lack of food supplies, their inhabitants will begin to be expelled, so that in fact they will defeat the Russian army.
    3. +6
      27 February 2022 09: 59
      Quote: vervolk
      and the argument "the network is full of videos."

      Many of these videos have already been debunked. They do not even hesitate to post episodes from computer simulation games. Where they show their zrada. That's fools...
      1. +5
        27 February 2022 10: 25
        Quote: Third District
        That's fools...

        On the evening of February 26, the Armed Forces of Ukraine hit the oil depot located in Rovenky (LPR). A few hours later, a rocket attack was launched on an oil depot near Kiev. Perhaps this is the answer. After all, they explained in human language that it is not necessary to destroy infrastructure facilities. Didn't get it, explained it in such a way that it became clear.
        1. +1
          27 February 2022 12: 18
          Quote: Egoza
          APU hit the oil depot located in Rovenky (LNR). A few hours later, a rocket attack was launched on an oil depot near Kiev. Perhaps this is the answer.
          It is possible that for those who give orders to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, oil depots - either near Kiev or in the LPR - mean nothing anyway: they are not going to restore them. For the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, this may be a forced payment for restricting the movement of enemy equipment.
      2. +2
        27 February 2022 15: 28
        Quote: Third District
        Where they show their zrada. That's fools...

        Well, with these, everything is clear - brain cancer in the last stage. Here it would be better to deal with domestic necrophiles and corpse-eaters who post dill bullshit here, and in serious cabbage soup they whine about the fact that "everything is bad again." Tellingly, almost the entire local oppa-tusa was noted in VO in such sketches (with the exception of a handful of more or less adequate ones). Well, well done - they showed themselves in all their "glory", revealing their true mug to the community. And all their crocodile tears are just poorly disguised hypocrisy, because the worse it is for the "damned regime", the higher the level of serotonin ("happiness hormone") in their rotten blood. am
  2. -37
    27 February 2022 09: 37
    "... The Ukrainian command and the media were reminded how the events near Ilovaisk and Debaltseve were given out for the countless victories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions ...".
    And what are the victorious events of the opposite side at this hour? Melitopol? And then what to do with it: give it back to Ukraine or take it forward to Russia? Melitopol residents were asked?
    1. +9
      27 February 2022 09: 43
      a simple question, what country are you a citizen of and where do you live?
      1. -30
        27 February 2022 09: 48
        Especially for "Vasilenko Vladimir":

        For you, the simple answer is a citizen of the Russian Federation. So what? And you "whose" will you be?
        1. +13
          27 February 2022 09: 51
          Lying is bad lol
          1. -17
            27 February 2022 09: 55
            Especially for "Vasilenko Vladimir":

            Being a "stoned false patriot" is even worse ...
            This is first...
            Secondly - I'm not trained to lie ...
            Everything? Or do you want to say something else?
            1. +11
              27 February 2022 10: 07
              Quote: Vadim Krymov
              Being a "stoned false patriot" is even worse ...
              This is first...
              Secondly - I'm not trained to lie ...
              Everything? Or do you want to say something else?

              a patriot special for you cannot be stubborn, just as he cannot shoot his army in the back, "Mikado's congratulatory telegrams" is not patriotism THIS IS A TREASON
            2. -5
              27 February 2022 10: 12
              What did they bring on a person? War, unfortunately, does not happen without losses! And, the Kremlin could explain to the country what will happen to the Russian lands as part of Ukraine. Only change the power, sign paper agreements on peace-friendship? That paper is worthless! Tomorrow they will buy all these Tsarevo-Azarovs, and everything will return to normal? Victims now for what? nuclear weapons on our uncovered borders? Or, did they actively help their vassals create these weapons? Very tough and decisive actions are needed. Ukroina must cease to exist! Introduce military rule, carry out federalization, actively work with the population, so that a year later, when a referendum is held, all our lands have firmly decided to return to Russia!
        2. +11
          27 February 2022 10: 04
          Quote: Vadim Krymov
          So what? And you "whose" will you be?

          pay attention, I didn’t “poked” you, although it’s possible that I’m older than you, explain with what fright you allow yourself to be rude?
          now on the topic, don't you think that internal disassembly should be left until the end of hostilities?
      2. +13
        27 February 2022 10: 13
        Apparently this is a Polish troll. Now Polish and Baltic bot farms are working tirelessly. It is they who produce mostly fakes about peremogas from materials coming from Ukrainian sources. hi
        It is ridiculous to think that they are doing this in Ukraine, in Ukraine they only collect information and pour it on special sites, where they are used with might and main on bot farms.
        1. +3
          27 February 2022 10: 49
          Perhaps these are guys from 72 TsPSO or from Bydgoszcz, or Tallinn.
      3. -16
        27 February 2022 10: 14
        a simple question, what country are you a citizen of and where do you live?

        So will you mumble about who and what are you talking about? Or maybe there is something to say in essence? But in essence, apart from a tight moo that everything is fine, the beautiful marquise has nothing to say to you. And unfortunately, I also have nothing, and for this, thanks to the fact that the RF Ministry of Defense lost the information war outright.
        1. +3
          27 February 2022 12: 32
          Quote: Alex2048
          So will you mumble about who and what are you talking about?

          mooing cows in the stall, take the trouble to behave like in a cattleman
          Quote: Alex2048
          that all is well, beautiful marquise, you have nothing to say.

          I can say one thing, we don’t know the real situation there, but I know one thing that a situation has arisen in which turning on the back will mean the end of Russia and Russian civilization
          and yes, you can squabble inside as you like, but at the moment when there is a war with your country, then the rear is either with your own, or you will be damned forever
    2. +1
      27 February 2022 09: 47
      Will vote in the elections.
    3. +14
      27 February 2022 09: 48
      Quote: Vadim Krymov
      Melitopol residents were asked?

      And the troops of the Russian Federation came to "ask". Everyone will be asked
      1. -21
        27 February 2022 09: 52
        Specifically for user1212 (User):

        "Uninvited guest ..." - do you remember the proverb?
        1. +11
          27 February 2022 10: 10
          You're lying again. And "moskalyaku on gilyaku"? Muscovites have come, where is the Gilyak?
        2. +4
          27 February 2022 10: 46
          Vadim, judging by the rhetoric, you are as Crimean as Ostap Ibragimovich was Zadunaisky. You, as I understand it, broadcast directly from Melitopol and express the opinion of 99% of local residents?
        3. 0
          27 February 2022 12: 25
          Quote: Vadim Krymov
          "Uninvited guest ..." - do you remember the proverb?
          Mustafa Dzhemilev, your invited and dear guest, why are you here puzzles from other people's proverbs.
        4. 0
          28 February 2022 12: 07
          "Uninvited guest ..." - do you remember the proverb?
          And then we will ask people like you ........
    4. +6
      27 February 2022 09: 58
      Quote: Vadim Krymov
      And what are the victorious events of the opposite side at this hour?

      Almost 500 people have just laid down their arms and surrendered to the RF Armed Forces.
      1. -16
        27 February 2022 10: 04
        Special for "Dart2027":

        And what about the APU? The purpose of the operation was announced as getting rid of the Nazis in Ukraine. Many Nazis surrendered!? They will soon scatter over the entire territory where our peacekeepers have entered and arrange a guerrilla war.
        1. +4
          27 February 2022 10: 07
          Quote: Vadim Krymov
          Many Nazis surrendered!?

          Why are they in captivity? The Nazis are disposed of.
          Quote: Vadim Krymov
          They will soon scatter over the entire territory where our peacekeepers have entered and arrange a guerrilla war.

          Well, let them try.
        2. +4
          27 February 2022 10: 47
          Why are you so vibrated? Who needs to take care of the "partisans". And given the attitude of local residents to the Nazis, they will not have any support.
        3. +1
          27 February 2022 12: 42
          Quote: Vadim Krymov
          And what about the APU? The purpose of the operation was announced as getting rid of the Nazis in Ukraine. Many Nazis surrendered!?
          Take your time: the 1st stage is demilitarization (disarmament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other formations), and denazification - the 2nd stage is the elimination / isolation of the Nazis and their accomplices. Wait.
  3. +19
    27 February 2022 09: 42
    according to UNIAN, the Sumerians are already fighting near Moscow
    1. +9
      27 February 2022 09: 48
      Vladivostok has already been besieged)
      1. +2
        27 February 2022 09: 57
        With Vladivostok - everything is easier there. You grease the rails well with lard - and the echelons themselves roll to Vladik! laughing
    2. +3
      27 February 2022 09: 55
      Shaw? Already the Kremlin is being stormed? Or the Central Department Store? laughing
      1. +1
        27 February 2022 10: 14
        Andrey Chizhevsky-TSUM will never be taken! Diasporas will not give up such a feeder!!! lol
        1. 0
          27 February 2022 10: 31
          So about this!))) laughing
      2. 0
        27 February 2022 12: 33
        Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky
        Already the Kremlin is being stormed? Or the Central Department Store?

        mattress embassy
    3. +2
      27 February 2022 10: 04
      Last night at the train station in Lvov it was crowded and crowded. Ukrainians are breaking into Poland. Men of military age are not allowed into the wagons, but they still fit in.
      1. +7
        27 February 2022 10: 23
        Quote: Third District
        Men of military age are not allowed into the wagons, but they still fit in.


        They think that the wagons will go to the front line. They want to pick up machine guns and meet the invaders. It's just that it's more convenient to go to the front line in a carriage. You'll get tired quickly on foot. And tired in the war is not a fighter.
        1. +3
          27 February 2022 10: 32
          Quote: sergo1914
          It's just that it's more convenient to go to the front line in a carriage. You'll get tired quickly on foot.

          And in the car there is a stop crane and it can be torn off. How did the good soldier Schweik and then went on foot, but only got lost and ended up in the opposite direction.
          1. 0
            27 February 2022 10: 49
            Can you tell me more about this episode? Already forgot where to look?
            1. +3
              27 February 2022 11: 20
              Quote: dmmyak40
              Can you tell me more about this episode? Already forgot where to look?

              "The Misadventures of Schweik on the Train" - that's what the chapter is called. Where he and Lieutenant Lukash went to war.
              1. +1
                27 February 2022 16: 17
                Thanks! Thanks to the comments, you can learn something new or remember the forgotten old! hi
                1. 0
                  27 February 2022 16: 25
                  Please . The book about Schweik has episodes for all occasions. And most importantly, the humor is very good, close and understandable to us. drinks
                  1. 0
                    28 February 2022 07: 23
                    Recently, Schweik and the Golden Calf have been quoted most often: a storehouse of quotes for all occasions!
      2. +4
        27 February 2022 10: 31
        Quote: Third District
        Last night at the train station in Lvov it was crowded and crowded. Ukrainians are breaking into Poland. Men of military age are not allowed into the wagons, but they still fit in.

        Well, so .... scary as much horror! They offer any money, just to get in. Meanwhile..
        Shooting in Kyiv between the Politekhnicheskaya metro station and the Vokzalnaya metro station
        Apparently, there are serious clashes almost in the center of Kyiv

        By the way, not everyone who picked up machine guns joins the Nazis. There are those who help the Russian army.
  4. +7
    27 February 2022 09: 45
    Yeah.
    Who jumped high - now runs fast.
    And for some reason, no one sings a hymn about the fact that "she ne vmerla" .....
  5. +5
    27 February 2022 09: 46
    Propaganda is going on in the telegram channels Ukraine 24, why don’t we have the same on this channel, I hesitated to “fight” with the Ukrofascists on the telegram channel V.O.
    1. +2
      27 February 2022 10: 08
      Quote: Sergey2809
      Propaganda is going on in telegram channels Ukraine 24, why we don’t have the same on this channel

      It has long been the age of the Internet in the yard. We don't think about it. As always, we act in the old fashioned way.
    2. +1
      27 February 2022 10: 46
      I was "killed" at about the 5th minute.
      Dear Teacher of Russian Language and Literature.
      And Dnepropetrovsk region.
      And the flow of mat goes. No, well, I also quarreled with her. Once.
      Now I can easily receive her outpourings on whatsapp. Drink. The way is better for me aggression will go away. And not in the fighting vehicle of our fighters with a bottle of gasoline.
      Cool down, then start to apologize. Maybe.
  6. +5
    27 February 2022 10: 01
    The publications of the Ukrainian mass media during the days of the Russian special operation to demilitarize Ukraine attract special attention.

    Lies are the hallmark of the Ukrainian leadership.
  7. +9
    27 February 2022 10: 02
    Whatever you say, the information support service in the RF Armed Forces works surprisingly disgustingly ...
    1. +1
      27 February 2022 11: 04
      That is, you want the Press Service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to report directly to the Armed Forces of Ukraine where who is and what? Or maybe immediately and upcoming plans when and where? The question is, which side are you on?
      1. 0
        27 February 2022 15: 22
        There is such a thing as a "war correspondent" - a person who is obliged to cover the successful actions of his troops and write reports on their use ..
        1. 0
          27 February 2022 15: 43
          And there is also such a thing as a military secret, and the desire of a correspondent to hype does not work here.
          1. 0
            27 February 2022 15: 46
            You and I are talking about different things .. I hope we are thinking about at least one thing - a quick completion of the operation with the least losses and the highest result.
            1. 0
              27 February 2022 15: 51
              So that the result would be faster, and the losses less, you can’t give the enemy information where and what is happening. And the layman, nothing terrible, can endure a week. From whether he knows something or not, all the same, the result will not change in any way. In general terms, there is strategic information from the same Konashenkov. And the rest is not worth voicing to the public at the moment.
  8. +2
    27 February 2022 10: 21
    When the truth was revealed, and when real, not fake, data began to appear about what happened to the Ukrainian troops near Debaltseve and Ilovaisk, they traditionally began to look for the guilty
    . The truth will not be revealed immediately, and not everyone is ready to listen to it.
    The information space is the same field for which it is desirable to occupy a strong position.
  9. 0
    27 February 2022 10: 58
    The head of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration, Oleg Sinegubov, wrote on Facebook that Russian troops had entered Kharkiv.
    According to him, Russian "light equipment" in Kharkov, including in the central part of the city.
    source:
    https://www.rbc.ru
  10. +2
    27 February 2022 11: 12
    Now the main problem is not poor coverage of hostilities, but the lack of a clear explanation of the causes of the crisis for the townsfolk.
    Of course, all more or less literate people understand that such a decision should be dictated by the sudden appearance of a catastrophic threat, but how many of those are literate? And the layman listens to the defense of the people of Donbass (who, by the way, were not fired less, since the Corps are busy tying up enemy forces, while the main actions are going in completely different directions; this also hints that the main threat is not there) and does not believe , because I got used to thinking only in terms of geshefts for thirty years.
    Perhaps the fact of the preparation of weapons of mass destruction and delivery vehicles was established, perhaps something else, but it must be said.
    The information vacuum is always successfully filled by the enemy.
  11. -3
    27 February 2022 12: 12
    Especially for the "sofa-cheers-stoned-patriots."
    "Partners!".

    The situation in which staff members have driven Russia is called zugzwang in chess.
    Here is why.
    Ukraine will not be occupied by our own.

    There are no organized and armed forces within Ukraine itself to fight the Nazis. And it's not expected.

    Collect something from the "prisoners" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Nonsense - they have not been at war with the Nazis for 8 years.

    What's left? Catch the Nazis by the armed forces of the Russian Federation on the territory of Ukraine? This means massively losing people... Or leaving - leaving behind "anti-Russia" already at the "cube" or in the "square".
  12. -6
    27 February 2022 12: 24
    With regret somewhere Ukrainians speak the truth. Our column was destroyed near Kharkov. Without air defense cover, the Ukrainian Su-24 struck a moving convoy of the second wave! Where is our air cover? Where is the air defense in columns! Why didn't they track the takeoff of the whole bomber?! What a mess again! He didn’t take off from a cornfield. I hope the heads of the bosses will fly ...
  13. +4
    27 February 2022 12: 44
    you can’t trust Ukrainians in principle, especially on an empty stomach! The main thing is that Putin is in charge of Russia, and not all sorts of couch experts there! fellow
  14. +3
    27 February 2022 14: 22
    A fake government can only have fakes. With these fakes, they squeeze money from ordinary citizens. The so-called "war tax". This is in addition to the usual income, which soared to 25%. Now they are shouting about their victories in different directions and the population, which was brainwashed about the Russian threat, sitting in the metro subways or bomb shelters, hastily transferring the loot to the accounts of the imaginary Armed Forces of Ukraine, if only they would declare victory faster. And the residents were able to return home. In fact, just stuffing the pockets of bureaucrats before they migrate to the west.