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What else was NOT afraid of Russia?

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Yes, events are unfolding very far from the scenario that we discussed after the recognition of the LDNR. Indeed, they thought that our troops would go to the line of contact with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, wean them from shooting at the cities of the republics ... But it turned out somewhat differently.


It is clear that now the overwhelming majority in the world will look at us as aggressors. Yes, almost no one knows where there is this "Ukraine" in general and "Donbass" in particular. And the fact that some Ukrainians shot at others did not bother anyone for eight years. Politicians were more interested in the front of the Minsk agreements, which no one fulfilled, but everyone was very worried about how to punish Russia, which, in fact, was not obliged to fulfill them.

And here is the result. A very well planned operation in Ukraine, the results of which will be known very soon.

Operation


As a military operation, everything looks quite nice. If only there were as few losses as possible. It will be painful for every dead our fighter, who was actually sacrificed to the policy of thirty years ago.

As a political operation, everything does not look so festive. The deadlocked relations between the two countries, the Crimean knot that had to be cut, complicating relations completely, the Donbass problem that no one in Ukraine wanted to solve - and in the end it all resulted in Russians who call themselves Russians kill Russians who call themselves Ukrainians on native Russian soil.

I still adhere to the opinion that this land is Russian. And even today, those who curse Putin are doing it in Russian. And the cities standing on this side of the Dnieper are Russian cities. Well, except for Zaporozhye. There, historically, the collective hodgepodge of Europe of a criminal orientation lived.

This is if you look very far back, then here's another one for you historical example. Here is a photo of the old Russian customs in the town of Volochisk. This is exactly between Ternopil and Khmelnitsky. Behind the customs is the river Zbruch. And across the river is Poland. And where, it turns out, is Ukraine? Look at the map, who cares.


But this is so, by the way. There was no Ukraine then, there was Russia and Poland. Russian Khmelnitsky and Polish Tarnopol, which became Ternopil after the Great Patriotic War. And point.

Today the troops of the Russian Federation are marching across Ukraine. For many, it is debatable in terms of legality and correctness.


Could this have been avoided?


I will answer: easily. God knows what conditions were put forward last year regarding the non-proliferation of NATO to the east. So many countries have already been adopted that, in fact, there are three islands of Russian civilization: Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

Yes, outright non-Russians came to power in Ukraine, who determined the openly anti-Russian policy of the country for many years. We endured? endured. Yes, no one removes Russia's guilt that this happened at the beginning of the XNUMXs. We really made a lot of mistakes, as a result of which Ukraine began to turn around and change its course towards Europe. This was also a mistake. But on that side.

And there were those who carefully pushed Ukraine towards the set of mistakes that were made by Yeltsin. Indebtedness, financial dependence on the West, anti-Russian sentiments and so on.

And here is the result.

In general, in the West it would be worth remembering more often about a rat that should not be driven into a corner. And even more so when it's not a rat, but a Russian bear. I agree, not the most graceful animal, but the dishes in the shop will smash like an elephant.


But most importantly - what is there to be afraid of now? This is exactly what I wanted to talk about.

Why should we be afraid tomorrow, after Russia has done all this today?


Disable the payment system? SWIFT? So what is next? No, you can take gold for gas and oil, I think so, Miller is not proud, he will take it. Or cash. Another question is, how will they carry it all? Trucks? Under the protection of helicopters and tanks?

Sanctions? Yes, you know, no longer scary. Everything is so sad with us that a couple of things in addition to what we already have will not make a difference. And the “bending” of the deputies is only a plus, the people will have fun. Not everyone listens to their nonsense, even if the deputies are mocked by fools.

In fact, we have already been limited in everything that was possible. It is time to introduce retaliatory sanctions. Leaving Boeing without titanium, for example. And what, he not only produces the 747th, he also makes rockets with fighters. So…

But counter-sanctions are a separate conversation, but in our country business is separated from politics, business is sacred.

Now they will close the conversation about Nord Stream 2, so what? And it would be nice if Gazprom started building gas pipelines inside at its own expense. And it turns out interesting how a Chinese gas, a German or a Turk - so at the expense of the state, as a Russian - so at his expense.

What do we care about these sanctions, or the threat of the Third World War? We have our own war. With prices. Which, by the way, Russia is successfully losing. I never thought that a dollar for 100 rubles is so easy. And I saw it in VTB with my own eyes.

How can you scare a Russian or a Russian woman? Surviving so many crises, paying for all the whims of state leaders, from taxes to pension reform, more like robbery in broad daylight?

Nothing.

You can, of course, have fun. Sanctions. They are there, in Europe, in general, they are not adequate at all. Ban MPs from entering. Well, yes, horror, of course. But nothing, Instead of Courchevel, our legislators will go to South America, and instead of Mallorca or the Cote d'Azur - to Bali. And all things.

Here, to select real estate that is registered not only for them, but also for relatives - this is a topic. And asking relatives for a historic departure from the same London is a good thing.

So the only thing Russia was NOT afraid of was if Western sanctions hit the pockets of those we don't have very hard. That is, our dear oligarchs. This is really scary, because we have to pay for everything again.

But it was impossible not to open the abscess into which Ukraine had turned.

Everything could be forgiven and put on the brakes. Anti-Russian policy, theft of gas, spitting on contracts.

But there was one thing that hung like a sword of Damocles. This is Donbass.


Indeed, no matter how the republics on the one hand and ORDLO on the other look, this did not give the right to methodically kill people just because they wanted to live differently from the rest of Ukraine.

You can call the militia a terrorist. But even this status gives a person the right to trial and trial. But when the sentence is carried out with artillery shells, this is not a trial, but genocide.

However, enough has been written about Ukrainian fascism, including by me.

In these eight years, enough people have died in the Donbass for Russia to finally intervene. And this intervention, this blood, with which it (intervention) will be paid for in any case, has already been paid for with other blood. With the blood and lives of the children of Donbass, who were not terrorists, were not militias. They were ordinary children who had their childhood taken away and some were killed.

And today I regret only one thing: that everything happened so late. But throughout all these years we have been talking about the problems of Donbass, that they must be solved in any way. This is also a solution.

nuclear power status


But there is one more thing to be afraid of. In his mediocre rule, which I hope will end just as ingloriously, President Zelensky has desired the status of a nuclear power for Ukraine. What he said in Munich with all frankness. Ukraine is ready to withdraw from the Budapest agreement and become the owner of a nuclear weapons.

And here is the freeze frame.

Remember, back in 2014, Mrs. Tymoshenko complained that Ukraine did not have nuclear weapons left that could be used against the republics of Donbass? And the "bloody pastor" Turchinov echoed her, wiping her tears?

I hope a lot of people remember this.

To have, to put it mildly, not quite an adequate country with a nuclear arsenal at hand? Sorry no. Yes, many in the world can say that these are just words, a declaration of readiness and nothing more.

Well, let me remind you how Iraq's nuclear program ended in its time. And it ended with the blowing up of a ship that was carrying the first nuclear reactor from France to Iraq on April 7, 1979 by the forces of the Israeli intelligence Mossad. And the second reactor was destroyed by a raid by eight Israeli F-16 fighter-bombers, which on June 7, 1980 destroyed the second reactor and thereby the Iraqi nuclear program with missiles. On the territory, I note, Iraq.

And in 2012, about the same scenario was expected by Iran with its nuclear program. And miraculously, everything stopped a few steps from the conflict, in which Israel again played the first violin.

We can recall the test tube with white powder and 2003, when Iraq was completely and irrevocably cut down.

That is, there was a threat, but it was so ... hypothetical. Nobody wanted to take risks. Neither Israel nor the US. Yes, Israel is separated from Iraq by 400 km. But from the US - 10. And yet, Iraq was torn to shreds by the coalition.

Chemical munitions, however, were not found. But the main thing is what? The main thing is the result. And he made everyone happy.

The question arises: having in the neighbors, in the border neighbors, such a state as Ukraine, which has both territorial claims and a fictional military conflict with Russia in the Donbass, is it possible to sleep peacefully, knowing that Ukrainians will get nuclear weapons from somewhere?

Let's assume where it comes from, and so it's clear. They will be given by the same kind people who knocked out of the Germans the opportunity to hang nuclear bombs on the German Tornadoes.

Lugansk, Donetsk, Belgorod and a bunch of other cities of the same Crimea would be under the gun?

Dismiss

There is one moment in this whole story that outweighs all the negative points. Ukraine's possession of nuclear weapons threatens the entire security of the region. And this threat is much more dangerous than all the sanctions and blackouts.

President Zelensky has finally and irrevocably gone too far, and in order to prevent his dreams from coming true, it was worth removing President Zelensky himself.

Of course, the task force would have done it with less effect, but with more efficiency. But there are Nazis and fascists who really run the show in Ukraine. Cleansing, cleaning the country itself, cleaning the brains of citizens. For this, it was worth starting this operation.

I, who participated in the life of the republics in 2014-2015, feel infinitely sorry for every person who died there. Moreover, many of them were my friends. And even more sorry for those of our guys who will inevitably die in battles with the rabid part of the SBU. I really wish there were no losses at all.

So far, two deaths have been reported. And it is clear that there will be more. It is infinitely sad, but this is not a payment for the interests of oil or gas companies, this is not a payment for imperial ambitions, like Erdogan's, this is a payment for Zelensky's nuclear ambitions not to come true. Who found it possible to solve all problems in this way.

If anything, I absolutely did not plan to make this material as a kind of carte blanche or justification for the operation that had begun. It's just a puzzle in my head. If there is anything that we should be afraid of, then this is just an inadequate neighbor with a nuclear club. Literally three hundred miles from my house. And someone, as in Kursk or Belgorod - even closer.

Yes, our country is great. And for some, this roar of bombers slicing all day on February 24 is nothing more than a sound in a video, because it happens a couple of thousand kilometers away. And in Belgorod, shells fly into houses from the other side of the border.

So we'll deal with the world later. First we need to resolve the issue with Ukraine. In any case, we have nothing to fear. And Ukraine will never have a nuclear bomb. God forbid that this cost Russia the minimum number of lives of these wonderful guys.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 25 February 2022 05: 13
    +9
    All this is true, and the reduced adequacy of the ukrogovernors, and the blood of the civilians of Donbass, the ukrogovernors were not going to stop pouring, and the ukronazis bred. But the main thing is not to get stuck in Ukraine.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 25 February 2022 05: 29
      +21
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      But the main thing is not to get stuck in Ukraine.

      in no case allow a positional war, clean up and clean up "hot", I think Kadyrov's 10 thousand army is the very job. there is nothing to mess around with ... from those and the "national battalions" will be horrified.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 25 February 2022 05: 42
        +12
        This is called taking the lead. smile
        You can not give the enemy time to respite.
      2. Igor Pa
        Igor Pa 25 February 2022 10: 23
        -1
        He showed 40 thousand at 14
    2. North Caucasus
      North Caucasus 25 February 2022 06: 37
      +27
      All true, but not entirely true. It's all right, but not quite right. It all started way back in 2014. It all started when they began to move Gorbachev to the post of head of state. They began to talk about restructuring, self-sufficiency, economic efficiency. What was the economic efficiency? Elementary Watson! Stop feeding Africa, the Warsaw bloc and the union republics! Why? They sit on our necks! Well, they dropped the ballast. Other dependents have appeared! subsidized regions. Then rogue parasites and pensioners. Yes, and Chubais in 2011 pushed a speech somewhere in the hall that Russia should and can contribute to the reduction of the population (there is a video on the Internet). Sobyanin blurted out something about extra people in the village. But this happened after the overthrow of Gorbachev. And Gorbachev began to stupidly hand over the interests of the country, starting with the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Smart people then realized that this one would sell everything! Then he drove the army out of Eastern Europe and surrendered it. Then the turn came to the fraternal republics. The rejoicing knew no bounds! They cheered on both sides. But what happened? Gorbachev surrendered all zones of influence (occupation) of the USSR. Well done? And what did they give the USSR? Influence of the country, leverage on the United States, markets. When Gorbachev said something about not expanding NATO, the country was still an expensive carriage. But after the collapse of the country turned into a pumpkin! The country was surrounded by a cordon sanitaire of anti-Russian formations. And who is to blame for this? NATO? No shit! Blame those who moved Gorbachev to power! These naive amateurs believed in some kind of capitalism with a human face and fair competition. We saw the bestial grin of capitalism in al-Qaeda and ISIS. And also on our outskirts-Ukraine. All this was created as a horror story and as a prototype of a new world order. You don't like capitalism? That's radical Islam for you! Just a little, cut your throat! Why Islam and not Catholics or Orthodox? Yes, very disciplined because. And don't laugh. Personally, how many times a day are you ready to pray? In Ukraine, Islam is certainly not the topic. But there is Nazism. Where did he go with a bang! Only things did not go beyond slogans about the greatness of the nation. How did the Nazis advance Ukraine technologically? Although Japan, South Korea, Australia and the same Switzerland can also be considered countries with a narrow national policy. You should not reduce everything to fascism in Ukraine. He didn't show up on his own. It was cultivated by intelligent managers. And allowed to cultivate short-sighted people who came to power in the late USSR. What is happening today was laid down, if not 30 years ago, then from the 50s (with the advent of Khrushchev, for sure). The Ukrainian seemed to be. Muddy type who did not shun anything. But he blamed Stalin for everything. It’s really true that everyone judges Stalin by himself. A scoundrel and an executioner, a scoundrel and an executioner thinks about Stalin! What we perfectly saw in the Second World War, when Stalin's opponents were on the side of the Germans. This is what we saw after 2014. What distinguished the Nazis of Ukraine? Humanity? Now, of course, the Nazis will attribute all their sins to Russia! Although it seems to be attributed. And in one star-striped country, almost every new president starts a new war. And after all nothing!
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 25 February 2022 10: 07
        0
        Blame those who moved Gorbachev to power! These naive amateurs believed in some kind of capitalism with a human face and fair competition.
        There were no such dilettantes in power then, and there are none now. As they wanted, so they did.
      2. lot
        lot 26 February 2022 11: 11
        -2
        how did the local glade give you so many pluses? you swung at the sacred (demilitarization and denazification).
        For completeness, let's talk about short-term conclusions. I'm interested in your vision.
        obviously the economic consequences will be catastrophic and political too.
    3. Snail N9
      Snail N9 25 February 2022 09: 31
      +2
      "You can only have fun" ... So didn't you notice that the "fun" for the Russians began yesterday? In the morning, fun began in bank branches, in which money had already run out by lunchtime, and about the currency, its purchase and removal of the taboo in general. Then it was possible to pay attention to the fun in the shops, where people began to sweep away long-lived products. Moreover, walking the dog in the evening, I noticed the constantly scurrying "delivery" cars, from which the products were unloaded in boxes and bags. Since yesterday, they began to write about "fun" in social networks, for example, that prices for all electronics and household appliances have gone up a lot "fun", and in the news I read that AvtoVAZ has been significantly and cheerfully raising prices for its entire product line, and moreover, it warns that it will most likely stop production altogether due to a possible ban on the supply of foreign components of which in their cars from 1 to 20% ... Well, in the evening, the president in a "cheerful" voice called on the people to rally around the government , and urged entrepreneurs not to do anything bad to their employees in terms of wages and working conditions and, if possible, not to raise prices and promised that the state would help them. And they all believed him, yeah. It will help, yes. Already helping. Have you noticed how it helps? Well, he ended his speech with the usual: "Please treat with understanding" ... And Biden just said that he had already begun to amuse Russian banks and cheerfully banned all countries from trading with Russia, not only goods with American parts and components, but also those where there is US intellectual property. Does this question promise anything? The fun is just getting ready and is just beginning ... And there will be more and more, "fun", yeah, we'll already be laughing, I can't really, especially with such rulers and the "elite" ...
      yes
      1. Gimlet
        Gimlet 25 February 2022 12: 05
        -3
        Quote: Snail N9
        So didn't you notice that the "fun" for the Russians started yesterday?

        Wrong! The same fun was observed in 2014, in the spring ... Then such overly "thrifty" went around begging their friends to buy a TV from them or at least an iron: there are only 5 rooms in the apartment (with a bathroom) and they bought 7 TVs!

        Quote: Snail N9
        and I read in the news that AvtoVAZ has been significantly and cheerfully raising prices for the entire line since March 1

        You read this too late! This news appeared five days ago, even before all this ...

        Quote: Snail N9
        The fun is just getting ready and just beginning...

        Yes heard, heard! NASA immediately announced that we would serve the ISS with the Russians, Germany, France, Austria and the Czech Republic confirmed that there was nowhere else to take gas from anywhere else, so sorry, Shanovites!

        And so yes. Already in Kiev, the "fun" began ...
      2. p0pulivox
        p0pulivox 25 February 2022 20: 59
        +1
        Snail! You are right, I will add - unhealthy fuss begins with medicines ...
      3. stan200000
        stan200000 27 February 2022 11: 54
        0
        Snail, how do you cover Suez, Panama and something else with any of our vessels with 1 megatons of vigorous horseradish on board. Which can neither be towed, nor flooded, nor captured. Otherwise undermining. This I have not yet said about the closure of the sky for Europe at least. How long will the sanctions last? Yes, our economy cannot be compared, but we can spoil oh-oh-oh how!
    4. Serg Kam
      Serg Kam 25 February 2022 17: 12
      0
      All this is true

      About sanctions - nifiga is not true.
      What they introduced to us earlier were personal ones against bureaucrats and some enterprises.
      Now it will be hard for the common people.
      How about a ban on the supply of aircraft and spare parts for them. What will we fly?
      There is no completely Russian passenger aircraft in Russia.
      Boeings and airbuses will rise, superjets will rise. Sailed. And if vacation trips can be attributed to excesses, then there will be problems with the delivery of shift workers.
      Taiwan joins sanctions, US bans electronics imports.
      Yes, there are some reserves, but then? In the event of a breakdown?
      And this is just the beginning...
      1. l7yzo
        l7yzo 25 February 2022 19: 06
        +2
        MS-21 is. They have been confused to drown him for 2 years already, airbus is a direct competitor. Now there is a chance that he will still go to a major series.

        And so yes - we have a component base, opa, mikriks - they spent the night there. Design - either straight futuristic - or straight horror. But I think it's too early to bury everything. We do not know much - judging by the reaction, the United States was aware of all this and is happening with their consent - so nothing is clear at all.
        1. Serg Kam
          Serg Kam 25 February 2022 23: 47
          -2
          MS-21 is. They have been confused to drown him for 2 years already, airbus is a direct competitor. Now there is a chance that he will still go to a major series.

          MS-21 on PW1400G engines.
          PD-14 has not yet reached mass production (and with the onset of sanctions, it’s not a fact that it will come - there are Western components, a little, but there is)
          We have a PS-90, but the plane needs to be completely redesigned for it
          1. ansons
            ansons 26 February 2022 02: 06
            +2
            PD-14 has been mass-produced for a year now. Well, the fact that the problems in general will not argue.
            1. Serg Kam
              Serg Kam 26 February 2022 05: 00
              -3
              PD-14 has been mass-produced for a year now.

              Can I have some proofs with production volumes? How many engines were produced this year?
              I'm happy to admit I'm wrong.

              Because so far, I have come across only such data
              "At the moment, we can easily produce, taking into account cooperations (United Corporation enterprises), 3-4 PD-14 engines per year. The task set by the UEC and the customer (Irkut) is to reach the level of 2025 sets of engines by 50," Popov said.

              https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6747841
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 25 February 2022 05: 22
    +10
    I believe that Ukraine had to be dealt with when we gave them gas for nothing, in 2000, the government and foreign intelligence do not know what Putin was doing in particular, and now we are disentangling what could be stopped in those years, with the least losses. proactively doing prevention, because going into the chronic stage, surgical intervention will be required.
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 25 February 2022 14: 01
      +8
      If you read the list of sanctions from the EU, voiced by the Fritsev Prime Minister, then one nuance will attract attention - it speaks of a "complete ban" on the activities of Russian banks in the EU and the termination of any business contacts with Russian business EXCEPT for everything related to the supply to EU energy carriers from Russia and contracts of Western companies with Russia, which, if terminated, will harm the EU economy. That is, the "west" leaves a loophole to continue to pump out natural resources from Russia and minimize the loss of its economy from its own sanctions. Tricky gentlemen.
      1. stan200000
        stan200000 27 February 2022 11: 56
        0
        The US wants to freeze our gold reserves - in fact, this is a declaration of war, and they want to live more than anyone in the world.
      2. Evgesha
        Evgesha 28 February 2022 14: 32
        0
        GAZPROM needs to close up its airline - GAZ-flight ..
        and issue all the planes on it .. and fpered.
        Since there is a loophole, it is necessary to break through there with the whole herd.
  3. pin_code
    pin_code 25 February 2022 05: 27
    +8
    Roman, everything is on topic and understandable. Thank you for the article.
  4. Quadro
    Quadro 25 February 2022 05: 33
    +24
    Unfortunately, our soldiers are paying for the failed intelligence and propaganda work in the square. I think when it was introduced in 2014, there would have been many times less blood when the Armed Forces of Ukraine were not pumped up with weapons, national battalions and did not completely decompose, because the horses, among other things, killed the soldiers of the internal troops, the police force was completely different, perhaps many would have supported. But alas.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 25 February 2022 11: 34
      +4
      when entered in 2014, there would be many times less blood
      Even the most repulsed trolls from the "censor" noted yesterday that in 2015 Russian soldiers would be greeted with flowers and vodka.
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 25 February 2022 05: 36
    +11
    Zelensky issued a decree on the creation of the headquarters of the Supreme High Command...
    Macron promised to help with military equipment... and 300 million euros in money.
    The Germans banned the sale of aircraft and spare parts to Russia ...
    Pickets of bakers took place simultaneously in the cities of Russia.
    Anonymous hackers attacked RT.
    So brothers, the fight will not be easy. what
    1. Carat
      Carat 25 February 2022 06: 03
      +2
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Zelensky issued a decree on the creation of the headquarters of the Supreme High Command...


      Zelensky do not let do not take Joseph Vissarionovich wink
  6. HaByxoDaBHocep
    HaByxoDaBHocep 25 February 2022 05: 41
    +9
    I don’t support the war, but I understand perfectly well, the author said correctly, it’s like removing an abscess, it hurts, but it’s necessary
  7. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 25 February 2022 05: 41
    +11
    Well, our tanks will reach Kueva, and even Lemberg, and then what?
    They are greeted there with stingers, javelins, or, who do not have them, with cries of "I hate."
    More than one generation has grown up there that does not consider us brothers. And those who are 20 plus or minus have heard in their lives only about the damned Muscovites who attacked their country.
    Croatian scenario?
    To evict all "Ukrainians" like Tatars from Crimea in 44?
    And our home-grown, who suddenly "became ashamed", where?

    And what then after that?
    Well, instead of the conditional Akhmetov and Kolomoisky, the conditional Aven and Rottenberg will become the owners there, and what, someone will feel better?
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 25 February 2022 05: 44
      +1
      And what alternative can you offer in return for the Nazis of Ukraine ... they are insane Russophobes and it is impossible to agree with them ... over the eight years of the war in the LDNR, everyone was convinced of this.
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 25 February 2022 05: 48
        +11
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        What alternative can you suggest

        But no.
        I'll go and drink another bottle of valerian, turn on a stupid comedy and forget about all this horror at least for an hour or two.
        Because hopelessness.
        Although, if without emotions, purely rational, then all under the root. But it seems to be inhumane.
      2. Deck
        Deck 25 February 2022 06: 49
        -1
        And what alternative can you offer in exchange for the Nazis of Ukraine ... they are insane Russophobes and it is impossible to agree with them ..


        And with bombs and tanks you will make them Russophiles at once. And those who treated Russia well too. Something you can not see the jubilant population with flowers and bread and salt. Maybe they didn’t fully understand what kind of happiness they had.
        1. KLV
          KLV 25 February 2022 07: 29
          +5
          Would you try, Comrade Major, to say this in the spring of 1945... Do you want to propose half-hearted measures? Which? Give every resident you meet an Independent iPhone or a certificate for cosmetic procedures?
          1. Deck
            Deck 25 February 2022 07: 51
            -2
            If you tried to say in the spring of 1945 that you would bomb Kiev, you would not have been brought to the commandant's office
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 25 February 2022 08: 16
              +3
              If you tried to say in the spring of 1945 that you would bomb Kiev, you would not have been brought to the commandant's office

              If you tried to say in 1945 that you support the Bandera Nazis, you would instantly find yourself in the basement of the NKVD.
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 25 February 2022 19: 49
                +2
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                If you tried to say in 1945 that you support the Bandera Nazis, you would instantly find yourself in the basement of the NKVD.

                Wouldn't bring... yes
        2. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 25 February 2022 08: 13
          +6
          with bombs and tanks, you will make them Russophiles at once.

          Nazis with bombs and rockets should only be made dead ... no options.
          1. Deck
            Deck 25 February 2022 08: 22
            -7
            You read the local uryakalok and wonder who the Nazis are here.
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 25 February 2022 08: 41
              +4
              If you read the daughters of a Crimean officer, you will also think about who is a patriot here.
        3. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 25 February 2022 08: 50
          +6
          full of videos where people wave their hands meeting the columns, they also calmly talk to the military
      3. KLV
        KLV 25 February 2022 07: 24
        +2
        Lech from Android, judging by the minuses, there are still mmm ... individuals who believe that an agreement can be reached.

        Who you are? Fans of computer games who saw blood only on their cut finger? Or chants of 16 years old? Or elderly, but so mind and not acquired, pensioners?
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 25 February 2022 08: 18
          +10
          The bakers climbed out ... for 8 years they were silent and did not resent when the citizens of the LDNR were killed ... and then suddenly ... two-faced scoundrels rebelled against the war.
  8. avia12005
    avia12005 25 February 2022 05: 48
    +11
    Politicians make mistakes, the army corrects them. Cannons are the last argument of kings.
  9. Far B
    Far B 25 February 2022 05: 50
    +20
    As a political operation, everything does not look so festive
    The operation was terribly late. For at least eight years (and as for me, then for all 30). And for eight years, those who in 2014 still did not get a finger in the nose to pick out the goat have grown up. And all these years they grew up in an atmosphere of "Russia is the aggressor." And now they are 14 ... The worst age - Pol Pot handed such hoes to save cartridges ...
    Russia's guilt that this happened at the beginning of the XNUMXs, no one removes
    What is the fault of Russia? This guilt has a name and a surname - who muddied incomprehensible body movements with Fr. Tuzla (from whom even the gouging “Is it a tragedy?” Kuchma was fucked up; who openly discussed with Bush in the presence of a living neighbor that, they say, the neighbor is still not a tenant, it’s better to cut him straight to the authorities right away; who appointed ambassadors to Ukraine super-diplomats like Chernomyrdin and Zurabov (apparently, based on the fact that, they say, where the Ukrainians will go from us - it’s still one people ...)
    But in general, I agree with the author: the abscess into which Ukraine has turned was impossible not to open. God forbid that everything ends quickly and without a long-playing vendetta (no, well, really all the same - the same people, no matter what they say)
  10. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 25 February 2022 05: 56
    -5
    I involuntarily turn to the saying: "do not anger the Russian bear"!
    They truly spread rot on us, tried to belittle and humiliate us, they even got into sports. Western politicians have thrown aside all decency and diplomacy and switched to outright rudeness.
    Bottom line: a truly bearish response from Russia, powerful, fast, crushing.
    But I would not calm down in the place of the West. The main goal is not Ukraine, but to stop the threat from the United States and its satellites.
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  12. nikvic46
    nikvic46 25 February 2022 06: 12
    +12
    There are successes. This is primarily the Donbass. And the unblocking of the Crimean Canal. I would not treat sanctions with humor. They always hit, first of all, a simple person. When with the same money, a person bought less food. And besides food, there is a road and so on.
  13. beeper
    beeper 25 February 2022 06: 13
    +6
    That's right, Roman! The "g/Banderites" who occupied the former Ukrainian SSR have completely gone too far in their misanthropic rage!
    And the fierce lamentations (in 2014) of the thieving Gas Zhuli and her "dear friend (from the inner circle of the escaped Yanyk)" about how they would like "shoot Russians with atomic weapons" always remember, never forget!
    And when the stupid clown - "sniffing" Jewish boy (who loves to demonstrate the grave of his grandfather, commander of the Red Army) instead of taking revenge on the Bandera-fascists who raised their heads for the Holocaust, he himself turned into a bloody "w / Bandera" (a war criminal leading the murder of a peaceful population of Donbass and the Russophobic Banderonazi "regime" in the razmaidan "Ukraine") offendedly voiced their claims to possess nuclear weapons - it was already prohibitive!
  14. aries2200
    aries2200 25 February 2022 06: 17
    +6
    Correct article ... well done Roman.
  15. parusnik
    parusnik 25 February 2022 06: 26
    +10
    And today I regret only one thing: that everything happened so late.
    Better late than never, said EBN, lying down on the rails and looking at the trail of the departing train.
  16. ivan2022
    ivan2022 25 February 2022 06: 30
    +3
    If peoples elect and obey Yeltsin or Zelensky, they get what they deserve. Bosses are those whom people perceive as bosses.

    We have a hereditary nobility of nema .. and we live like under an absolute monarchy: "either the Tsar seems to be smart, or he is completely drunk and half-fool, but ... For whom else?" ... . And this is our main problem in the modern world.

    The historical perspectives of peoples are determined by their true morality and culture. What is this true cultural level - shows the practice of relations. And not references to Dostoevsky, Gogol or Tolstoy. In our society, the word "authority" means not Dostoevsky, but a bandit.
  17. Private89
    Private89 25 February 2022 06: 32
    +12
    It is difficult to write something about current events, of course, what is being done could have been done 8 years ago. Many are tormented by the question of why 8 years ago they agreed to the Minsk agreements, because it was obvious that no one would fulfill them - Kyiv for sure. And were there any agreements with Kiev? Rather with the West. It was an attempt to make peace with him, this is a reflection of the illusion hovering in "our" elite that someday we will be accepted into the club of privileged capitalist countries and put at the same table, the illusion that Kyiv's loyalty can be bought for cheap gas, and thereby feed what we have to do now clean up. This illusion has cost our country dearly for all 30 years. Honestly, I don’t know if the current events are the final impulse with these illusions, for 30 years of national betrayal we have been taught that all changes are only for the worse and there is no euphoria and hope that was after the Crimea. When people thought that now the country would begin to develop, it didn't. I heard the opinion that now the war is going on two fronts in Ukraine and for the last 30 years against its own people (pension reform, monetization of benefits, tax policy, juvenile terror, coronavirus, etc.) As you know, it is very difficult to fight on two fronts and the guarantee of this is history . Maybe it's time to stop fighting on two fronts?
    1. ivan2022
      ivan2022 25 February 2022 07: 16
      +3
      We like to repeat that "socialism is a utopia", while they themselves live with such wild utopian ideas that lead to war and terrible consequences for everyone, and not just for Kiev.

      Paradise on earth? Not serious. .utopia... . Now, if hell, dystopia - yes, it's solid. For an adult!
  18. Mihail55
    Mihail55 25 February 2022 07: 38
    +6
    Thanks Roman for the article! We need to finish off this Bandera reptile! And there must be a COURT! Why is the top of the current Ukrainian government better than the Nazis? Cruel to punish!!!! For the blood of civilians in Donbass - DEATH!!!
  19. Eroma
    Eroma 25 February 2022 07: 51
    +13
    The Russian leadership made a huge mistake in 2014-15: recognizing the legitimacy of Poroshenko's election! Thus, legitimizing the fascist seizure of Ukraine! fool if then they were not ready for a similar today's operation, then it was necessary to announce to the whole world that the fascist power in Kiev was not recognized, it was necessary to break off relations and put forward conditions for their restoration, rejecting the fascist ideology. It was necessary to constantly talk about the genocide of Donbass by the fascist regime! By recognizing the elections, maintaining relations, negotiating with Ukraine, Russia legalized the seizure of power in Ukraine, integrated into the information picture of the world drawn by the West! We had to impose our agenda, our statements and demands were supposed to make the Kiev regime toxic in terms of image: support for Kiev is cooperation with neo-fascists!
    Then, today, a military operation in the eyes of the world community would not be an aggression against a free Ukraine, in defense of the separatists, but a campaign against neo-fascism, in order to stop the genocide! And NATO would look like an unprincipled bloc supporting any, including fascist forces, for its own purposes.
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 25 February 2022 08: 28
      0
      Or maybe in 2014 Russia was not ready for such an operation? What do you think?
      1. Eroma
        Eroma 25 February 2022 08: 41
        +5
        What am I writing about? You cannot respond to force with force, then you must take a political position that unequivocally condemns and is preparing to correct the situation with force. And the Russian leadership, supporting the Donbass and gathering strength, made it possible to legalize the Nazis, this is a mistake.

        Of course, it’s easier to reason than to make a decision, but for the future. Need to draw conclusions
  20. Prometey
    Prometey 25 February 2022 08: 26
    0
    Roman, you are correct. Yes, we Russians have always been against the war. We extended our hand to the West and Ukraine, we offered to jointly seek mutually acceptable solutions, but in response we heard only insults and grins. Yes, Putin is a very patient person. I would even say with iron patience. He endured sneers, insults and even pokes from his "partners" and his nurtured petty gopnik - Ukraine. But you can't be patient all the time. The bear was driven into a corner and he stood on his hind legs.
    Now the snot is already coming that the Ukrainians will never forgive us for this. We don't need anyone else's forgiveness. We will forgive them, and this is much more important.
  21. depressant
    depressant 25 February 2022 08: 31
    -1
    Roman matched. War --
    this is not a payment for imperial ambitions, like Erdogan's, this is a payment for Zelensky's nuclear ambitions not to come true. Who found it possible to solve all problems in this way.


    When I first heard about Zelensky’s plans for a bomb, I thought, they’ll portray what they are doing, they will quietly deliver someone else’s, and Zelensky will say, they say, they did! And the entire "gullible" Western world nods its heads: "They made a bomb, they did it!"
    And here we are.
    I think so. The solution of the Ukrainian question is an opportunity to solve many of our internal problems as well. It's time to end the duality. If only Putin had the courage.
    1. Liam
      Liam 25 February 2022 08: 51
      -13
      Quote: depressant
      Solution of the Ukrainian issue

      You’ve all gone crazy there ... the solution to the Ukrainian question ... soon you will drown for the solution of the Jewish question. Drink some pills or something
      1. depressant
        depressant 25 February 2022 09: 44
        +3
        Victor, take your pills!
        Your brains are clearly wedges! By resolving the Ukrainian issue, I meant resolving the issue of the anti-Russian orientation of Ukrainian policy. But you have to defame me, don't you? Attributing fascist aspirations to me - yes? Why are you doing it? I have my country, you have yours! Resolve Moldova's issues in a friendly manner towards Russia, and everyone will be fine. But you want to rise in your own eyes "Oh, how good I am, look at everything!"
        By the way, you insulted in my person a person who, unlike many, was friendly towards you. You have broken the thin thread of this attitude. Once again I ask why you did it? However, you don't have to answer. Faded.
        1. Liam
          Liam 25 February 2022 10: 21
          -12
          Quote: depressant
          Solve Moldovan issues in a friendly way towards Russia

          And the fact that ... put bombs on my and my children’s heads ... decide to say the Moldavian question this way ... how are they now raining down on the head of Viktor Nikolayevich, his children and grandchildren? Before whom they portrayed honor and respect here, and now you are cheerfully moving the flags around the map and drowning for the destruction of his country and life.
          You are an old woman and should, if a normal person pray for the health of those people who are now dying by the thousands in the process of resolving the issue, and do not breed moronic theories here. Although if a person has lived to gray hair and does not understand such simple things, he is sick and there is nothing to explain to him .
          Gone crazy in the bunkers
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 25 February 2022 12: 45
            +2
            .decide the Moldovan question in this way ...
            Well, if you need it, then yes, we will decide.
            PiSi. In 92, I already participated in the "decision" ........
  22. DmSol
    DmSol 25 February 2022 08: 48
    +2
    It's too early to rejoice. Now they are regrouping. They will squeeze our broken parts. And we don't have an infinite number of missiles.
  23. Wildcat
    Wildcat 25 February 2022 08: 51
    +5
    hi
    In general, in the West it would be worth remembering more often about a rat that should not be driven into a corner. And even more so when it's not a rat, but a Russian bear. I agree, not the most graceful animal, but the dishes in the shop will smash like an elephant.

    Dear soforumchane, let's not get emotional for a minute.
    It is beneficial for the abstract West if February 24, 02, happens to the Russian Federation. Ukraine is not in NATO.
    And if the "bear" walks around the "shop" called "Ukraine", then formally this is a problem of the "bear" and the "shop", and not NATO. No one in NATO wants to see their soldiers dead or captured.

    But this also means that all the resources of the "bear" will be spent on the "shop", and not elsewhere. This means that the "bear" will have big external and internal problems. And the "bear" with the help of sanctions will be "claws" to shorten those markets, which the bear entered with great difficulty, to take away. In this part, it is significant that right now no one has begun to announce "hellish sanctions" in terms of oil and gas - this will be done when "who needs to" takes our place in this market.

    And if we like to say "we can repeat", so in the West there are those who "can repeat". And "old man Biden" is one of those who have been in politics since the seventies of the last century. He also talked with Kosygin and Gromyko and he knows how sanctions work, how to create an "evil empire" and how to negotiate oil and gas in the East.

    Let's answer the questions:
    1. When and how will this story end? I mean not when a decisive victory is announced or a new people's republic or a new government of Ukraine arises in some city. I mean, when will our troops leave Ukraine, which will have a government that is friendly to us? As an option: when will our soldiers not be killed in Ukraine?

    2. When and under what conditions will the West remove sanctions from us?

    3. When and under what conditions will the West stop helping Ukraine with weapons and other things useful for armed resistance?

    4. What losses have we suffered and what more will we suffer?

    What to do with it? Already nothing.
    My IMHO, even before February 24.02.2022, XNUMX, it was and is - and in Iran people live under sanctions, if only there was no nuclear war.

    I'm going to take a sedative too.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 25 February 2022 11: 56
      +1
      An article appeared on Kommersant entitled “Not a pound of a dollar”, it explains in detail, point by point, what is actually happening with our banks after the American bans, and what is written there has absolutely nothing to do with bravura comments on this matter, that sound for general consumption on TV. Read. Very informative. And this is just the beginning.
      1. Wildcat
        Wildcat 25 February 2022 13: 18
        +2
        These are not "hellish sanctions". Yes, it is bad, but not fatal and the main effect in the future.

        IMHO, and then - how it will turn out "on the battlefield": if the Armed Forces of Ukraine suddenly begin to resist more actively and Zelensky nevertheless builds a working system of "war management" (at least on the basis of foreign supplies, at least on the basis of Zelensky's cocktails) - yes, for us it will be serious both in terms of losses and in terms of sanctions, which will be introduced "on readiness" and which will be quickly driven to Iran.

        And if Zelensky starts negotiations/agreements with us (or is caught) and Ukraine starts a “walking field” with its own government in every city, half of which will be friends with us, we will probably figure it out without “hellish sanctions”. "Spreading rot with sanctions" will be slow (and maybe it will "dissolve itself"), but still in the direction of Iran.

        So far, the APU does not seem to be "successful" in any way. IMHO, mostly amateur performance, unpreparedness for a war with the Russian Federation, which Zelensky vehemently denied, and "prosperous" mobilization. Our Armed Forces are already at Kiev, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine - who is where.

        Let's see what happens next, only the second day of the war. How to enter Ukraine they planned - now it’s clear, but how to exit ...
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 25 February 2022 20: 00
        -1
        Quote: Snail N9
        Explains step by step what is actually happening. with our banks after American bans

        Tell us which banks you consider to be ours... We have spawned obshchakov who are engaged in speculation and in which case they are waiting for additional capitalization... The banking system needs to be changed. The economy is strong not by banks, but by developed production. And everyone knows it. It’s just that it’s convenient in the bank, without doing shit, to wind up interest for yourself ...
  24. Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers
    Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers 25 February 2022 10: 15
    0
    There will be one of two...
  25. EXPrompt
    EXPrompt 25 February 2022 10: 43
    +3
    Everything happened as it happened .. VVP said in a speech that they didn’t leave us other methods ...
    But hanging the fat of the Nazis and their henchmen on lampposts is not our task, as a result, Ukrainians should do this.
  26. ViacheslavS
    ViacheslavS 25 February 2022 11: 20
    -2
    I made a note to myself to see how events would develop in six months. In my opinion, the situation is very pessimistic, the military operation will give absolutely nothing, Russia will have to spend energy and money on Ukraine and incur losses from the very heavy sanctions that have been announced so far. And do not forget that for a long time there has been no active generation that saw the war of the Second World War, now people born after the 2000s, who have not seen either the collapse of the USSR or the difficult 90s, are coming into force, so they will be those who “exchange power for jeans ".

    Now they will close the conversation about Nord Stream 2, so what? And it would be nice if Gazprom started building gas pipelines inside at its own expense. And it turns out interesting how a Chinese gas, a German or a Turk - so at the expense of the state, as a Russian - so at his expense.

    It will be something like this, American companies will buy Russian gas for a third of the price and sell it at market prices to Europe. Its population has low solvency:

    Moscow. November 17th. INTERFAX.RU - The debts of industrial enterprises and the population for consumed fuel and energy resources in the whole country amount to almost 1,4 trillion rubles. This was announced by the Minister of Construction and Housing and Utilities of Russia Irek Fayzullin.



  27. Martin
    Martin 25 February 2022 15: 35
    +2
    And today I regret only one thing: that everything happened so late.
    As I understand it, we couldn't before. Therefore, they chewed snot with all these Minsk agreements, attempts at "appeasement", etc.
    Then we could be “offended” by sanctions much more painfully than now.

    Now part of the work on import substitution has been done. Yes - a part, yes - our analogues can be more expensive than imported ones (but not a fact, by the way). But not fatal.

    Much more gas pipelines have been built now than 8 years ago. We have where, and most importantly - how, to drive gas. Even the same notorious SP-2 is not a "dead weight". The gas crisis in Europe is another beacon of the possibility of launching an operation in the Donbass. In Europe, of course, they roam, puff out their cheeks, but how. But Russia was ready for this. To howl for them is to save face. But no Qatar, no Omeriga will fully satisfy them with gas.

    Now much more has been agreed with China. Which, that nindosy, that xoxly, too, are already tired to the extreme.

    I think that the GDP has been talking for a reason all these 8 years. Waited.
    “No-no-no, it’s impossible now, they will press the textiles on us - it won’t be up to Donbass. We are chasing humanitarian aid, helping with weapons, advisers, volunteers, we are waiting for now.
    No, no, no, it's early. It is too early. Let's turn off the wind right now, so that Europe would be more fun ... Well, all these "cartoons" about hypersound, combat coordination, all things ...
    And now it's time! With God! Let's see who has the stronger balls.
    Well, everything. Ready or not, here I come. You woodpeckers have been warned."
  28. Charik
    Charik 25 February 2022 17: 53
    +3
    CSN prices +30 percent for one night, why? They brought a new product, hell, another how to call it?
  29. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 25 February 2022 20: 53
    0
    Could this have been avoided?
    I will answer: easily. God knows what conditions were put forward last year regarding the non-proliferation of NATO to the east. So many countries have already been adopted that, in fact, there are three islands of Russian civilization: Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.
    Based on the actual situation that developed a couple of weeks before the start of the current operation, the Ukrainian leadership had a chance to avoid such a dramatic turn of events. It had enough objective information about where everything was going, but nevertheless behaved inadequately. Instead of offering immediate negotiations without preliminary demands on their part to normalize the situation around the LDNR and interstate relations with the Russian Federation, the leadership of Ukraine began to prepare for a conflict. And most importantly, he had to offer his guarantees not to join NATO and not to deploy foreign military facilities on its territory ... However, it missed its chance!
  30. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 25 February 2022 21: 09
    0
    Quote: Snail N9
    An article appeared on Kommersant entitled “Not a pound of a dollar”, it explains in detail, point by point, what is actually happening with our banks after the American bans, and what is written there has absolutely nothing to do with bravura comments on this matter, that sound for general consumption on TV. Read. Very informative. And this is just the beginning.

    I previously warned that in the event of an armed conflict, sanctions against the Russian Federation would be much more serious and painful for the Russian economy and population. These new measures are just "beginning", and we already have the first reaction, and perhaps there is nothing good in it ...