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Ukraine and our readiness for war

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... states exist for the sake of war;

they are the embodiment of readiness for war.

Oswald Spengler "Prussianism and Socialism"


Foreword February 25, 2022


This article was written a few days before the start of the attack on Ukraine, but it was approved too late and it did not have time to go out. However, the author decided to publish it nevertheless - but with comments from February 25, when the course of events became approximately clear.
It's quite interesting to trace where and how you "hit the mark", and where you "missed". In general, the reader is offered a "pre-war" text, but with "military" comments already. This way you can better see what was clear before the start of the conflict, and what was wrong. Detractors will even be able to gloat, if possible.

The operation that Russia undertook stunned everyone, firstly, by the scale of the tasks assigned, and secondly, by the speed with which the Russian troops initially developed success.

Two days later, telegram channels are full of photos from the battlefields and with broken equipment - alas, far from being only Ukrainian. And the bodies of soldiers left on the battlefield - also not only Ukrainian.

Crisis points have been identified - in the middle of February 25, this is Kharkov, where the army cannot yet overcome the resistance of the Ukrainian troops and where we have the biggest losses, and until the middle of the 25th - the Gostomel airfield, where Russian troops landed about 30 hours ago - 200 people either from the MTR, or from the intelligence of the Airborne Forces. It was in this operation that two "Alligators" were lost - or, one helicopter and some other aircraft from which it was possible to eject. The Ukrainians claimed three times that the airfield was taken, and the landing force was either destroyed, or knocked out and fled through the forests and were forced to refute their words three times. Well, they've refuted it.
Our unofficial channels claimed that the guys were either holding on or had already been saved.

The Ministry of Defense was silent, as if there was no landing, a breakthrough to the target right under the fire of MANPADS, landing right in front of the positions of the Ukrainians and kicking them out from there under the cover of "turntables". And only in the middle of the 25th, when our Tanks broke through to the airfield, the Department of Information and Mass Communications finally told about them.

And if the Ukrainians succeeded, then what, DIMK MO continued to pretend that nothing had happened?

Now there are already sluggish battles in Kyiv itself, but the resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is slowly growing, and our losses are also growing. Kharkov is still a problem and it is completely incomprehensible what awaits us in Dnepropetrovsk and around - our troops are not yet in the very center of Ukraine. More and more troops are being introduced into the country, but the APU still has numerical superiority.

But the analysis of what happened is better to do later.

The entire text below is an article written a day before the war, and timed to coincide with the recognition of the DPR and LPR, but with late comments.

Article


Russia has taken a step that many have been waiting for from it for many years, and many were afraid, including inside the country. In a sense, this is the crossing of the Rubicon - the political situation now is not at all the same as in 2008, when South Ossetia and Abkhazia were recognized, but in any case it happened - President of the Russian Federation V. Putin announced the recognition of the independence of the Donbass republics. Apparently, at an extraordinary meeting of the Federation Council, everything will be brought to an end.

Is it good for Russia? The question is inappropriate, there are millions of our compatriots, with considerable sacrifice, fighting for their right to be themselves. It simply cannot be discussed. Yes, and questions like “is it not too late” or “is it not worth it to do it right away” are now of strictly theoretical interest. In any case, it's all over.

But what now takes on real importance is how ready Russia is for the consequences, primarily from a military point of view.

Upcoming Challenge


The modern Ukrainian identity, in the form in which it was introduced (and implemented) by the post-Maidan Ukrainian authorities, is built on foundations, some of which are directly related to us, moreover, without connection with Crimea or Donbass. Let's briefly list them.

"Ukraine is not Russia." This was even included in the title of a book by one of the former presidents of Ukraine L. Kuchma. That is, a Ukrainian exists precisely as a Ukrainian, largely because he is not Russian, and Ukraine exists precisely as "not Russia." If there were no Russians and Russia, then the Ukrainian identity in its current form would also not exist, and it would have to be “recreated”. Historical analogies that someone can try to draw are inappropriate here, since we are talking about a new identity that did not previously exist in this form, although it has common features with the previous one.

Cultural and civilizational superiority of Ukrainians over Russians.
It sounds like an idiotic joke - but nevertheless, a large part of the Ukrainian population believes in it.

The following follows from this point.

Ukraine is an outpost of European civilization, opposing the Asian barbarism of Russia.
Comments are not needed here.

The loss of Crimea and prolonged hostilities in the Donbass gave rise to another “pillar”.

Ukraine must repel “Russian aggression”, on the one hand, in order to maintain its cultural and civilizational superiority, on the other hand, because it has it: "stupid katsapnya" not only should not win, she also cannot do it, since she is an "Asian rabble", incapable of anything, unlike Europeans. This sounds simply mockingly stupid for a normal person, especially in the light of real (not fictional) Ukrainian "achievements" of their own, but nevertheless they believe in it. Perhaps the point is that they compare not their achievements with Russian ones, but Western ones in general, since Ukraine is supposedly also the “West”, and the achievements of the West are also the achievements of Ukraine, at least, of the civilization to which Ukraine belongs. This is also part of their new identity.

The first specific feature gives rise to antagonism - Ukrainians cannot be with Muscovites, since they are “not Muscovites”, the opposite phenomenon.

The remaining features create the most powerful militant chauvinism, the basis of which is a fictitious superiority over Russia and the Russians and, attention, an urgent need to prove the existence of this superiority in practice.

Further, a quote from an old Articlesdescribing the psychological consequences of such moods:

Superiority requires sometimes pointing out to others their status. The most intelligible method to point someone in his place is humiliation, and the highest form of humiliation is what? This is murder...
But what if someone who, in your opinion, is inferior to you, but behaves like an equal, and you cannot put him in his place at once, how will you feel towards him?
Hatred.


The latter is the main problem. The fact is that such sentiments are very strong. Having suffered a defeat in Russia in 1812, the French, who had a similar attitude towards the Russians, were forced to invent a lot of theories justifying the defeat of white people inflicted on them by "these savages." Basically, everything here, as we remember, revolved around Russian frosts.

A little later, to the same agonizing question “why?” in their memoirs, with pain in every line, the generals of the defeated Wehrmacht tried to answer. Unwilling to accept the reality that they were defeated by people who they seriously considered a faceless biomass, they could not answer their question.

But all these people were defeated in a hard struggle. Unable to recognize the inaccuracy and perniciousness of their ideas of their national superiority over us, they nevertheless were broken emotionally and psychologically. Without admitting that they were defeated by people, they could not deny that they were defeated after all.

A quick Russian security operation in the Donbas would put the “nationally oriented” Ukrainians in a situation where they have defeat but no defeat. There is no emotional breakdown, no horror of loss, no memories of how one survived among a pile of charred corpses of his friends - "brothers". All these medical procedures will become the lot of the absolute minority of those who are now going to go and press the “cotton wool” “to the nail”.

That is, the chauvinistic militaristic frenzy, in which part of Ukrainian society is now, will not disappear with the withdrawal of Donbass from the blow, an understanding of what a war with the Russian Federation can be for each of these “Svidomo” Ukrainians, these people will not arise.

Now we add here the Bandera ethics, for example, that it is acceptable for the "Svidomo" to destroy the civilian population, we add here the low level of intelligence of this fraternity: on the entire Maidan, among the thousands of activists, there was not a single person who could understand the text of the document on association with the EU, rejected at the last moment by V. Yanukovych. As a result, people thought that they "do not want to be allowed into the EU." This is a very striking characteristic of this contingent. From here we get the final conclusion - they will not be able to understand or accept the new reality, and their chauvinistic frenzy will push them to, firstly, not to give up, and secondly, to take revenge.

And this revenge can be a serious challenge.

Comment from February 25: at the moment, the will of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to resist is not even close, the number of their attacks on our rear columns is growing. Video from telegram channels filmed by residents of Ukraine shows that, with the exception of Kharkiv, where friendly moods are quite common, although there are reverse examples, in other regions of Ukraine, to put it mildly, we are not welcome. This applies to Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine and not only.

Provocations and terror


First, we run the risk of facing terror.

We can recall, for example, the murder of rebel leaders immediately after the signing of the Minsk agreements, and, characteristically, the murder of one of the signatories of these agreements, A. Zakharchenko. We can recall the actions of Ukrainian saboteurs on the territory of the Russian Federation, and not only in the Crimea.

Here, very serious efforts will be required from the FSB. Moreover, they will be required in conditions when the “office” will be overloaded with already existing anti-terror tasks and additional tasks for cleaning the Donbass from Kyiv agents.

Secondly, this terror may not necessarily be on earth.

Let's remember that we completely lack mine defense, and the British advised the Ukrainians to carry out covert laying of mines from civilian watercraft in 2014, during the Crimean events.

Moreover, what is important, Ukraine can buy mines or even get them for free from the West within a matter of days. And how much time do we need to repair and modernize old minesweepers?

We cannot rule out simply provocations by the Ukrainian Navy, and, unlike the Ukrainian boatmen who meekly went to the slaughter under the Kerch bridge, these can be really dangerous armed provocations.

The author has written more than once about the threat posed by the Ukrainian Navy, for example, the latest material “Ukrainian saboteurs will have to be drowned on the distant approaches to the shores of Russia” or earlier article “Dangerous as cadaveric poison. A little about the Ukrainian Navy", where the issues of the Ukrainian threat at sea are disclosed in detail.

We will have to add to these materials the fact that our ships, including those in the Black Sea Fleet, have never reflected a dense, small-scale, missile salvo from 4–8 low-altitude anti-ship missiles. That is, we simply do not know whether our air defense systems will be able to repel such a strike, and not a single target, but we can guess that the task will be very difficult.

The question arises - what will happen in the event of a real Ukrainian missile attack against our ships? For example, what did the Egyptians do with respect to the Eilat destroyer? Will we famously beat off their salvo or will we get shame on the whole world and the lost ship?

Alas, this question is now open.

If we are not talking about missile strikes or laying mines, but about sabotage by combat swimmers, then, alas, there are also problems in our anti-submarine sabotage defense. M. Klimov wrote something about this in an article "To prevent Port Sudan from becoming Port Arthur: base defense". It should be understood that there are other problems in the organization of EITI, in addition to those described. There is no reason to believe that Ukraine cannot exploit these weaknesses and vulnerabilities, especially with the help of allies.

Comment from February 25th: Obviously, with the outbreak of hostilities, the leadership of the Russian troops also regarded the Ukrainian Navy as a serious threat. Therefore, they were almost completely destroyed, and now they do not affect the course of hostilities. In the conditions of the war, this was an absolutely correct decision, on February 24, 2022, only a very narrow-minded person could laugh at the Ukrainian Navy, and it’s good that they were immediately neutralized. At the time of writing the original article, however, nothing was known about the scale of the planned operation.

But let's digress from terror, mines and provocations. Ukraine may well try our troops for strength, and here, instead of counteracting individual provocations, we will have to fight stupidly, albeit in a limited space. And here, too, there are a lot of questions.

Comment from February 25th: Under the limited space here meant the areas around the Donbass, and the Donbass itself. The scale of the actually started war, however, turned out to be completely different.

War


Everything that is written below should not be misunderstood - the Ukrainian troops in a clash with the RF Armed Forces are doomed in any case. But there is the question of the price of victory, and it cannot be ignored.

We politically cannot afford to deal with this adversary at the cost of the same losses as the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU). Society, apparently, will accept a loss ratio of approximately 1:100 in our favor, but, let's say, a 1:10 alignment will raise questions for the authorities.

And now a few examples of how the Armed Forces of Ukraine today differ from themselves in 2014.

In 2015-2016, the Armed Forces of Ukraine received American AN/TPQ-36 and 37 counter-battery radars. Less than a year after receiving these radars, Ukrainian artillery often returned fire after the third projectile fired by the militia. Then they were knocked out for a long time and knocked out, but the personnel who knew how to work with them were not knocked out, and the Western countries themselves could again covertly set up the stations.

As a result, it will be necessary to work only with self-propelled artillery according to the Western scheme, when at once a large number of guns in different places receive a common target, stop, fire literally two shots each and change position at maximum speed, leaving the retaliatory strike. Or prepare for serious losses. And for such shooting, an appropriate automated artillery control system is needed. Do we have it? And what about the training of crews of self-propelled guns, headquarters?

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have a well-functioning connection between infantrymen and armored vehicles. At the positions - wired encrypted digital communication based on fiber-optic cable lines - neither listen, nor connect, nor detect the fact of work, nor suppress it with interference.

They know how to correct artillery fire with drones and shoot down our UAVs. And they have shown it time and time again. They also have drones, although here they apparently do not fly long. But they can manage to inflict a couple of painful blows on us.

Or such a small, it would seem, example - often photojournalists "snatch out" photos of Ukrainian soldiers who have everything weapon in the hands caught in the frame is equipped with collimators. Here in this video, for example, they are.


A trifle? But the Donbass is a highly urbanized area, in some places there is continuous development, the distances between towns and urban-type settlements are often measured in kilometers. It will not be possible to demolish them with artillery, multiple launch rocket systems and similar weapons - there are civilians there, some of whom might not have been evacuated, and we cannot simply take them and kill them together with the Ukrainian military. This means that motorized riflemen will have to dismount and fight in built-up areas, relying on heavy weapons capable of direct fire (tank and infantry fighting vehicle cannons, heavy machine guns, ZSU), and ... personal weapons.

Let's leave the question of how ready our 19-year-old infantry is for this, although this is also a very important question.

But the fact that aiming from a collimator is more accurate and faster at times is a fact. Let us recall one of the most intense episodes, when the US solved the problem of attracting large infantry forces (mainly marines, note) to street battles - the Iraqi city of Fallujah in 2004 (the second battle for Fallujah).

The city was stormed, during which 54 American Marines were killed in the first, active phase, and 107 people, mostly Americans, died in total of American, British and Iraqi (from the newly formed pro-American army of Iraq) military personnel.

The losses of the rebels were measured in thousands, and a great proportion of them were shot in the head. The Americans even conducted a special investigation to make sure that we were not talking about the execution of prisoners, and found that 4x optical sights each Marines led to the fact that the soldiers massively hit the enemy fighters in the head at any attempt to lean out from behind the wall and look around.

US Marines in Fallujah, Iraq, 2004. Each fighter had an optical sight. Photo: USMC

An ordinary soldier of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, trained in shooting from a machine gun, when equipped with a collimator, the results of firing at once improve by 30-40% without any additional factors.

Do we have collimators? Yes, in many parts. But, alas, the fathers-commanders do not want to answer for them, as a result, in order to prevent the fighters from breaking them by mistake and not to account for them later, the fighters go into battle without them. With all the consequences. And no one controls it. Is there such a problem in the units that are now part of the Donbass republics? I would like to be sure that it is not.

Russian soldiers in Crimea, 2014. All have old machines without collimators or optics. Photo: AP/dpa

Or an example with a night vision device. Is there a bracket on the helmets of the RF Armed Forces for its quick installation? Rhetorical question. Ukrainians do not either, but - (see above) we can't be like them, we have to be better than them, and much.

And in general, it would be interesting to know how it is with the provision of troops with night optics and preparation for a night battle, otherwise conscripts returning from service say nothing about this, nothing at all.

Helmet of the US Army, on the forehead a bracket for quick installation of a night vision device. Photo: US Army


Comment from February 25th: The first day of the war caused conflicting assessments. It seemed that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were falling down, but the truly wonderful, complete destruction of their air defense and air force beyond the control of even the Americans was true. We will return to the latter, but today we must admit that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not been able to realize their potential. And they didn’t have so many radars. By this moment, the Lugansk police were able to capture only one counter-battery radar, the effectiveness of counter-battery fire of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has not shown any miracles yet, although it is apparently not zero, and artillery can operate much more freely than expected. However - an important point - it was not a foregone conclusion. At this moment, the enemy actually played a giveaway with us, not regaining the opportunity that he had previously.

As for the rest... the street fighting is already there. Sumy, Kherson (Antonovka), paratroopers in Gostomel, and at the time of updating this article, there is a heavy battle in Nikolaev, "at the rifle station" judging by the sounds - this has already been encountered, while we were lucky, the enemy, stunned by the attack, which he did not expect, unable to organize effective resistance.

And this is just the beginning - the battles in the Minsk massif of Kyiv and Obolon are already underway, huge Kyiv is ahead, and besides, Mariupol, full of Nazis from Azov and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where they have been preparing for street battles for two days. How they prepare for them is a separate question. The question is how ready we are for them.

As for the night optics... Half a day ago, one of the former leaders of the militia in Donetsk, A. Khodakovsky, said that the advance of the troops stops at night "for natural reasons." Alas, the Russians, it seems, too, otherwise the Ukrainians near Kharkov, who were otherwise deprived of "night vision", could notably be beaten this night, having won back the day's delays and losses. But this did not happen, after the night they were finished off for half a day. Now there seems to be progress.


There are actually many such examples. And the last of these are the notorious Javelin anti-tank systems and the NLAW rocket-propelled grenade launcher.

Video about NLAW.


From the latter, you need to stay further than 800 meters - none of the means of protection available to our tanks will help, especially the ridiculous bars over the roof of the tower. This alone should seriously change the tactics of the troops in the offensive, otherwise it will end with apocalyptic blockages of stuffed armor, as during the first assault on Grozny, and the corresponding losses in people.

With Javelins, due to their range, the situation is even worse - here you will have to implement a lot of measures to make their use difficult, smoke screens, infrared blinding of the enemy, diverting armored vehicles to the rearguard of troops advancing on foot, using heavy flamethrower systems to destroy living forces in the attacked positions - and this is all in the field, and in the development everything will again rest against the infantry, sights, the ability to shoot and killer drones, which should be in sufficient numbers. Do they exist? And the rest of the measures are being worked out in the exercises? Or will it be the same as always?

Comment from February 25th: today it became clearly visible that with the anti-tank systems and NLAW, the Ukrainians turned out to be not a horse's fodder, as they say. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have not yet been able to organize an effective anti-tank defense using these means, as a result, our troops do not have the problems described above. In addition, there is reason to believe that a significant part of these funds was destroyed in warehouses during the first strikes. But another problem is brewing - some of the Ukrainian anti-tank systems of all types are spreading over various surviving detachments, special forces and the like, and they begin to attack with them the rear guards and rear columns of our troops. The latter are driving around Ukraine without guards, as if it were their own territory, hence all these videos of broken Grads, Kamaz trucks with howitzers in tow, and so on. What to do about it is still unclear. So far, it is clear that communications must be protected, and that they are not protected.

In general, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are a difficult adversary. And we really should take this enemy seriously, although many of its shortcomings are already obvious.

Comment from February 25th: The potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was crippled by two things. The first, for which we must say thanks to our headquarters - strikes on the command structures of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They seriously disorganized the Ukrainian troops, and made it impossible for them to coordinate resistance - now it is focal, here it is, there it is not.

The second culprit of the Ukrainian problems is the own command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which could not use the resources of its troops.
The enemy played a giveaway, this is a very important point, to which we will return more than once.


There are questions about the readiness of the troops to act against a serious and motivated enemy, in principle, without reference to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

News about the armament of the Ground Forces in recent years has been puzzling. For example - "BMP-1AM "Basurmanin": practical modernization".

Without evaluating the name, I would like to ask a question - did you receive any additional BMP armor? The fact that it is security that determines the ability of a combat vehicle to perform a combat mission became clear following the results of the 1973 Arab-Israeli war. But in the USSR, due to the specific decision-making system, few people were worried about this.

In Russia, the situation is different, especially in demographics. And the question is - since the Ministry of Defense has already invested in the modernization of the BMP-1, was it not worth equipping these vehicles with additional armor according to the scheme of the "Afghan" BMP-1D and BMP-2D with enhanced armor? Or normal, not handicraft on-board lattice screens from the Research Institute of Steel? Or both of them?

Additional armor on the BMP-1D. Photo from the archive of A. Khlopotov

Yes, they will lose buoyancy, but there are things much more important than buoyancy. Ordinary BMP-1 or BMP-2, by modern standards, can be considered armored with reservations ...

BMP-2M with additional armor protection and lattice screens. In the BMP-1, our soldiers are cheaper or what? However, combat "twos" are not so protected. Photo: Rosoboronexport

Was it not worth it to radically increase the number of smoke grenade launchers on them (we will not dream of a fragmentation projectile fired from such a grenade launcher)?

There are actually many such questions. And together they largely determine the level of losses on the ground.

Comment from February 25th: The war came and our soldiers went into battle on ordinary motorcycle leagues that remember Chechnya. That's all. Well, not only on them, of course, on everything - up to the BRDM-2. Today in the West they joke about the fact that Russia is fighting like in the Second World War. This, of course, is not so, but what our troops went into battle with in Ukraine is not impressive, to say the least. And it's not about the money. We always had BMP-1s, the possibility of re-booking them too, 30-mm cannons and normal sights at least in the old towers could have been put, and it would not have cost some fantastic money, but it turned out quite differently. And the contrast with exemplary video footage from exercises, such as the same Kavkaz-2020, is very sharp. A big (our biggest after the Second World War) war came and we all saw what our troops were equipped with in 13 years of rearmament.

And in the air? Ukraine has an air defense system, and no matter how much we laugh at this country, it is apparently more powerful than that of Iraq in 1991. In any case, Iraq did not have the S-300, at least the first modifications, but Ukraine has it, like the Buks.

How is the situation with stockpiles of high-precision weapons for aviation? How is the situation with anti-radar missiles for strike aircraft? With container jamming stations? With small-sized Kh-59M cruise missiles for tactical strike aviation? Are there sufficient stocks?

After all, it’s simply not possible to fight with Ukraine in the same way as with bandits in Syria - this is not the enemy that can be bombarded with “cast iron” from a safe height. There will be a need for means capable of hitting Ukrainian S-300s and Buks from a long range, and these means will be needed decently. Do they exist?

Again, don't misunderstand. A lot has been done for the army in recent years. But it’s not a fact that everything is possible, and, as the example of collimators shows, it’s not about money, they were and they spent it. But sights in many parts simply do not give out.

Comment from February 25th: Here we must again say thanks to the planners and intelligence. As will be shown below, we do not have enough high-precision weapons. But our forces managed to literally catch a very significant part of the Ukrainian air defense forces on the spot and destroy them in the first hours of the war, before they even deployed. Some people had to be finished off with planes with live pilots - we recall the photo of the Kh-31P anti-radar missile shot down by Ukrainians - this is exactly the weapon that should be used in such circumstances. It should be noted that the fact that she was shot down says a lot about the skill of anti-aircraft gunners and their equipment. This is a very difficult goal.
But basically they crushed the radar successfully.
It is impossible, however, not to note that not everything was suppressed - the "completely destroyed" Ukrainian air defense "spoke" today - below is a photo from the telegram channel "PMC-media"




This is a residential building in Kyiv, on which fragments of a downed Kalibr cruise missile fell. What hit her? Good question, the goal is very difficult.

Nevertheless, one cannot but admit that in the first days of the conflict, the air defense potential of Ukraine was greatly undermined - but first of all by intelligence and planning, and only then by the WTO.
Because we have issues with the WTO.

We look at the photo, taken from the telegram channel "Turned on Z War"




This is the Chuguev airfield. It can be seen that there was no total destruction of aircraft, some airfield buildings were destroyed, including, judging by the smoke, a fuel depot.
The planes were not all destroyed, although they also "flew".




The fragments could not but cut the cars in the parking lot, in addition, there were more than one such hit, but the fact is that not all planes were destroyed, moreover, on February 24, Ukrainian fighter planes flew, just a few, they were shot down. That is, Ukrainian aviation was not completely destroyed at the airfields, the airfields themselves too.
As the most striking example of how well Ukrainian aviation was destroyed, let's cite the fact that Ukrainian Mi-24Ps fired missiles at our landing force in Gostomel. Nobody interfered with them and nobody brought them down.

Why was not all Ukrainian aviation destroyed?

The targets were not hit by aircraft, they were hit by cruise missiles, absolutely from ships, possibly from ground-based launchers of the Iskander OTRK, and possibly (but this is not certain, this is a "naked" guess) from bombers.
In addition, it makes sense to quote one US Marine Corps officer who had the opportunity to observe what the US Armed Forces observed in one of the operations centers (in Yokohama, where everything was also broadcast). Quote:


Watched a bunch of SRBMs fly in the Operations Center. Chat room traffic is.....busy, to say the least. I won't comment on the accuracy of what we're seeing but.....I'm glad Ukraine isn't my AO.


Translation:

I saw a bunch of flying OTPs in the Operations Center. The ops center messenger traffic is... busy, to say the least. I will not comment on the accuracy of what I saw, but ... I am glad that Ukraine is not in my operational zone


That is, the Iskander complexes were used. Without a doubt, this is a high-precision weapon, but let's also admit that we do not have so many cruise and tactical missiles to plow all Ukrainian airfields with them, so they were not plowed. There were not enough means of destruction.
Why weren't they covered by planes?

Firstly, because of the unwillingness to inflict unnecessary losses on the Ukrainians - clearly, the use of aviation in this operation is subject to the most severe restrictions. Only today there are first signs that they will be removed.

The second reason is that with unguided rockets and free-falling bombs, it was possible to get under the "destroyed" Ukrainian air defense.
And correctable ammunition in the required quantity is simply not available, especially since the battle for Kyiv, for a million-plus city, is ahead, and accurate strikes will be needed precisely there, because we cannot afford significant destruction, we cannot afford losses, and We don’t have time to gnaw through defenses without aviation. Unless, of course, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not "merge" again. But how can you count on it?

In truth, even the United States would not have been able to destroy the entire aviation of Ukraine in one morning, there would not have been enough time, with any outfit of forces involved. We also did not have enough means of destruction.

It is impossible not to note that the enemy again played along with us. His planes were drawn up at the airfields wing to wing and the Ukrainians did not even try to disperse them. What if they were concentrated?

Now there is an emergency build-up of the grouping, more and more columns are entering from Belarus and Crimea. And the war hasn't really started yet.

It is not surprising that D. Peskov has already announced that Zelensky is still considered the legitimate president, and high-ranking leaders of the Russian Federation have already begun to demonstrate their readiness for negotiations. Zelensky, meanwhile, is distributing weapons to everyone in Kyiv, they don’t even ask for documents. And these people really want to fight! However, this is another question, about street fights, sights and the night, he was already here. We will not repeat.


Comment from February 25th: Both the United States and the leading NATO countries refused to fight for Ukraine. But force majeure can never be ruled out. For example, the attempts of "stoned" Kievans with machine guns received on the street to attack Russian troops will inevitably cause their mass death, and it will give a "juicy" picture for the Western media, which, ultimately, can lead to the same effect that the Russian victory led to fleet in Sinop - the insane mass manifestation of the desire of the masses of the West to fight with Russia. And everything can change, and in the same format in which the USSR participated in Korea - below the nuclear threshold. And then all of the above will suddenly become a reality. Maybe even next week. The United States is slowly moving troops to Europe.

Another unpleasant moment is our airfields. We do not practice the construction of concrete shelters for aircraft at air bases, and recently, according to foreign satellite photos, the dispersal of aircraft around the airfield has not been practiced either. Our planes stand wing to wing, freely observed by satellite reconnaissance, and just a few cluster bombs or cluster warheads for missiles are enough to immediately deprive us of dozens of planes that came under attack at the airfield. NATO, on the other hand, has such a level of protection for aircraft at bases that only a nuclear strike can guarantee the complete destruction of aircraft, and one ammunition is not always enough. The successful attack of the militants against the Khmeimim air base forced them to build concrete shelters there, however, they are incomparable with NATO ones, firstly, and secondly, these shelters are in line, dispersal of aircraft around the air base without their withdrawal from shelters is impossible. On the territory of Russia itself, nothing changes, although it is impossible to guarantee that some of our airfields will not be hit during a major war.


Satellite photos of the airbase Inzhirlik in Turkey. Concrete hangars are dispersed over a large area, the presence of aircraft from the satellite is not determined, the simultaneous destruction of all aircraft with non-nuclear weapons is difficult, many dozens of missiles are required in a salvo, at least one per shelter. Photo: freeze frame of the video channel "Divan Legion Strategist"

A typical Russian airbase, lined up aircraft in the parking lot, without shelters, are easily hit by several weapons with cluster warheads. Photo: Google maps


Comment from February 25th: And the second day of the war gave us an example - the Ukrainian missile attack on the Millerovo airfield, in the Rostov region, during which 4 people were killed and one Su-30SM fighter was destroyed. That is, NATO did not attack, but we received a blow to the airfield, we lost 4 people and a plane.

Details, here, there are photos and videos, for cheers-patriots. The episode, by the way, makes you ask - how are we doing with Russian air defense? The S-400 would easily intercept such a target.

One of the photos in the link.


Ukraine and our readiness for warThe hit is clearly not direct, in a concrete shelter the plane could have survived


Again, on the other hand, we have an effective military air defense, which cannot be suppressed without a large-scale air offensive operation, and the West will not go for such an operation right now.

Our position is by no means hopeless, we can win in Ukraine even with limited American and European intervention. The question is the price.

For a very long time, one of the approaches often shown in Russian military development was that combat readiness should be paid attention, of course, but to the rest of the resources, to what remains after the industry is fed and the PR is absolutely incredible in scale.

When it was necessary to painstakingly choose what to spend our meager budgets on, we played Poseidons, unarmed patrol ships, super-expensive ship radars that do not work, the Yunarmiya, ekranoplans and other similar things. Our type of combat aircraft produced does not depend on the needs of the Aerospace Forces, but on the fact that aircraft factories should not be idle. We have Tu-22M3 long-range bombers, but we don't have a compact cruise missile for them. As a result, they turn into a thing in themselves - against a modern enemy, free-falling bombs do not win much.

But we have PR for the Kinzhal complex. So what? During the ongoing exercises, the MiG-31K with the “Dagger” was transferred to Syria, but we never saw a strike on a sea target - instead, there was a strike on a ground target, which was accompanied by a miss of a promoted missile.


And if there was a maneuver of the ship, would there be interference (they will be when attacking the ship)? How would the advertised "Dagger" cope with this task?

Again, do not misunderstand the situation - today it is already obvious that this missile is needed to deliver nuclear strikes against especially important stationary targets, such as American nuclear weapons depots in Europe, and therefore a miss of 10-20 meters is not fundamental for it , and you don’t need a lot of them, but with us this weapon was promoted and promoted in a completely different way, and most importantly, this is not PR together with real weapons of the Aerospace Forces with massive high-precision weapons, this is PR instead him. And this is completely different.

I don’t want to say bad things about S. K. Shoigu, objectively he is one of the best defense ministers in our recent history, but this is precisely his personal failure, and it’s stupid to deny him. Yes, a lot was done for the combat power of the RF Armed Forces, including by him personally, but a lot of "holes" in the defense capability were left, "holes" that no one thinks to close and which will come out sideways to us in a real war, because the enemy knows about them.

And then suddenly this most real war was on the threshold - suddenly, as usual. We have been pouring money into the armed forces since 2009. Time to prepare is over, it's time to show the results, but what are they?

Comment from February 25th: by the end of the day you can see what. Yes, Russia is winning. Yes, Russia will win. But - the old "motorcycle leagues" endless ambushes of single vehicles, Ukrainian aviation working on Russian troops and everything else is higher on the list.
Is the merit of S.K. Shoigu, how quickly did we get to Kyiv? Yes, definitely.

Is it his fault that, in fact, we are trying to defeat the 35-million-strong state by a grouping that is slightly larger than the one that entered Chechnya in 1999, which is strangely rare compared to the same Syria, you can see drones, well, everything else is like minimum expected? Definitely too.

It turned out that today, in February 2022, the RF Armed Forces do not have the qualities necessary for such operations. Although they could.

However, the fact that such operations had to be carried out at all is also a failure, but S.K. Shoigu is no longer involved in it.


Exam


The Dutch sociologist Sebald Steinmetz wrote in his book The Philosophy of War:

“...historical justice is carried out in the war. In the war, the entire significance of a given people is brought to justice, which has found its expression in all the circumstances of the life of the state and its social forces. There is nothing more magnificent, more uplifting, and more useful than this implacable judgment! In war, everything, absolutely everything, without exception, contributes to success or defeat, everything past of the people (the past - Approx. A.T.), and all its present, with all its strengths and all its weaknesses, finds appreciation here.

Hegel wrote that war is "the triumph of the one who is better." Better not in the sense of being more honest and correct, but in the sense of being stronger, smarter, more resolute.

We suddenly come to the point where we have to take the exam and prove that we are better. Business, not PR. And we will be assessed not by enthusiastic patriotic inhabitants from the comments on the Internet, and not paid propagandists, we will be assessed by our enemies, obsessed with the idea of ​​​​our murder and not accepting any other possible options. And this will not happen sometime in the future, it will happen now - our troops are already entering the Donbass, and Ukraine does not even think about stopping the shelling. Only a few days left before the collisionas it turned out later - there were 12 hours left).

And the enemies are indifferent to what you personally believe in absolutely, and they will not die from the fact that you believe in the omnipotence of the “Dagger”, your belief that everything is right with us will not kill any of them. PR cannot kill, and that is exactly what is needed in a war.

And I must say that, apparently, this has begun to reach people from the high corridors of power.

Let's remember the provocation with the American submarine in our waters. Read more in the article by M. Klimov "Shaposhnikov against" Virginia "at Urup. What was it". And now we are watching the video of the report of S. K. Shoigu to the Supreme Commander.


Somehow, the minister's youthful confidence in everything, which he had demonstrated earlier, diminished. And why? But because the enemy took and showed his real capabilities. And it turned out that PR cannot fight submarines. The president also looks somewhat dissatisfied.

The behavior of the director of the Foreign Intelligence Service at the historic meeting of the Security Council is also indicative.

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What was it? It was stress of a level that a mere mortal simply cannot imagine. Naryshkin, like no one, has a good idea of ​​what we are now up against with weapons in our hands, and such a reaction is understandable. It is for fools from the Internet that the West can be overturned with one left, but in reality the gap in our and their capabilities is terrible. Here the person also was worried, happens.

But pleased with the unity of the elites. These confessions on camera that the Republic of Donbass must be recognized are almost an oath of allegiance, if you like. People went to confrontation with the West, publicly burning bridges behind their backs and remembering how it ended for Hussein and Gaddafi at the time. This, of course, is good, and knocks the thesis about real estate in London out of the hands of anti-Russian propagandists. It may be, this real estate, but it has just been neglected indicatively.

But do they all accurately imagine our capabilities?

Comment from February 25th: Now it is clear that it is definitely not. The elites overestimated the military capabilities of the Russian Armed Forces, and underestimated the will of the Ukrainians to resist. But the author hinted at a war with NATO. At the same time, we, of course, will break Ukraine. But, "on the verge", with difficulty. Though fast

There is no doubt that Russia will win any confrontation with Ukraine.
There is no doubt that Russia will defeat NATO if there is a limited-scale clash in Ukraine.

But, alas, there is no doubt that in previous years the complacency of our leaders created a number of critical weaknesses and vulnerabilities in our military capabilities - such that were not due to objective difficulties, nor the economy, nor the weakness of industry, but only stupidity. some leaders and the evil will of others, and occasionally a vicious control system "on the ground" (sights, for example). Many of these people are still in power and positions.

The crisis in Ukraine and the upcoming military clash on its territory is the last, really the last warning for our country. There will be no others. Passing this “exam” with any grade other than “excellent” will mean that in a serious fight in our current state, we simply will not survive - and the arrogance of the Americans is largely due to the fact that they understand everything.

We must immediately begin to get rid of our shortcomings, and get rid of them very quickly, otherwise the "inexorable court of war" will pass a death sentence on us. Just a little later, with another enemy, not with Ukraine.

Afterword of February 25th


Now it is obvious that the original plan of the operation went "slightly" not as planned. We did not manage to reach Kiev on time and now there is a risk of encountering unplanned strong resistance there. They did not enter Kharkov and until the middle of the 25th they could not defeat the grouping near the city, and even now it is not clear what is there. Near Nikolaev, the Armed Forces of Ukraine calmly form brigade battle groups, maneuver and use helicopters. Happy. They began to bomb them only on the night of the 25th to the 26th, before that they fought like that.

In the Donbass, militiamen tie down the outnumbered Ukrainian troops at any cost, moving them several kilometers a day to prevent them from transferring reserves against the Russian Armed Forces from there. Let's remember their contribution and the price they pay for our common success.

And what did we show our opponents? On the one hand, there is courage and readiness to solve really big problems with small forces.
On the other hand, they showed that, for example, we are no longer ready for a full-scale war with a country of the level of Poland. With decisive goals - for sure. Although we will win, of course, too, but at an unacceptable price.

They showed that our mega-cool PR does not reflect reality. In PR, we have "Zircons", in an offensive in a real war - "motorbike leagues". True, there are also infantry fighting vehicles, just not modernized.
In PR, we have the Russian Aerospace Forces, in real life we ​​"ted" five missiles per airbase.

And showed a lot more. And they didn’t show much, drones, for example, which we generally have, didn’t show. Despite the fact that we can fight, and we will win this war, and in such a way that Western planners with their 20-year fiasco in Afghanistan and almost the same in Iraq will envy. But there are "nuances" and they are unacceptable.

But the most important thing in all this is that it is time for us to correct ourselves. PR can't kill.
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    1. bar
      bar 26 February 2022 09: 55
      -39
      Quote: Sergey2809
      The article is ambiguous - intimidation?

      According to the author and article. Timokhin is a well-known alarmist and defeatist.
      I didn’t even read the article, one introduction and the author’s name were enough.
      1. just exp
        just exp 26 February 2022 10: 11
        +13
        but he does have a lot of good points.
        I read the article by the authors, I don’t really study it, I’m a jingoistic patriot, an ardent putinoid.
        1. bar
          bar 26 February 2022 10: 28
          -18
          With true remarks in his verbose articles, the author constantly lays out the road to defeat.
          1. just exp
            just exp 26 February 2022 10: 33
            +31
            no one says that his article should be taken as the ultimate truth.
            but some things he voiced quite rightly.
            it seems like they approached the operation very well, but the shortcomings still climbed.
            and the main error is again in the info field. they hush up problems and losses, and we learn information from skakua sources, and for those, just give free rein to come.
            and now the picture turns out - we almost knocked down one left ruin, and a little later the picture is completely different. and again our MO looks already unreliable.
            I have been seeing this picture for many years because of info-blunders. And she doesn't change a damn thing.
            The problem of coverage of events must be approached differently.
            well, to remove blunders, such as the lack of normal air defense at the airfield, which are a few kilometers from the border with the state with which we are at war. This is not just a defect, this is criminal negligence.
            as well as negligence in the fact that in the rear they left an abyss of potential opponents, hoping for their brains and reasonableness. and suffered losses because of this, and this is also criminal negligence.
            1. antivirus
              antivirus 26 February 2022 10: 54
              -12
              the question is not in the military rear. and in the "TIL" .there are vocational schools. the culture of production and the level of consciousness. unity of the people and the state.
              "the level of development of production forces and production relations"

              the rears are filled from the rear (poultry and more poultry)
              if they (poultries) strive to earn money by striptease, there is no army support.
              the colonial army can now be called in the worst case - from the awareness of one’s place as a person and, in general, the entire “rear”, the definition of the actions of the boys on the outskirts is coming.
              the mother conveys to her son near Kharkov the idea - to hide until "let another climb" or "avenge Odessa." I do not know the mood of recruits. I know about vocational schools. they are different. what Timokhin needs - few of them
          2. victor50
            victor50 26 February 2022 12: 00
            +19
            Quote: bar
            With true remarks in his verbose articles, the author constantly lays out the road to defeat.

            But you forge victory on the couch .... With your unwillingness to know the truth and improve something.
            1. Zug
              Zug 26 February 2022 13: 30
              +4
              Let him attach wheels to his sofa and roll straight to the war ..
            2. p0pulivox
              p0pulivox 26 February 2022 19: 43
              +6
              You are right, overexcited commentators from the category of noteworthy (as it were) patriots are just tirelessly laying out the road to defeat ...
          3. YOUR
            YOUR 26 February 2022 15: 06
            +21
            The author, unlike many, is not engaged in capping, but points to specific shortcomings in the Army and Navy. Everything is right and everything is correct, with this approach everything will again fall on the shoulders of Vanya the infantryman. So far, only the form is beautiful and the weapons and equipment leave much to be desired. There are no words at all about the fleet. When some kind of corvette is essentially a large boat, it takes 8 years to build.
            It's a shame
            1. bar
              bar 26 February 2022 16: 14
              -6
              Quote: YOUR
              The author, unlike many, does not engage in hatred, but points to specific shortcomings in the Army and Navy.

              The author chose a good moment to criticize the shortcomings.
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 27 February 2022 02: 23
                +5
                Right now they are most visible.
              2. Aag
                Aag 27 February 2022 09: 55
                +4
                The author, thanks to him for this, drew attention to shortcomings and failures long before the special operation ...
                Under the incessant "shelling" of hat throwers ...
                And now it does not "sow" defeatism!
          4. Niko
            Niko 26 February 2022 18: 06
            -15
            Quote: bar
            With true remarks in his verbose articles, the author constantly lays out the road to defeat.

            The road to defeat is laid out not by the author of the article, but by the author of this war of conquest, sitting in a bunker and afraid of everyone and everything, even without a war. Glory to the patriots who defend their country,
        2. Cool but not Igor
          Cool but not Igor 26 February 2022 10: 50
          -14
          Already in the first half of the day I realized that the operation was not what it should be. There is no lightning speed in rocket attacks, there is no armada of troops, but instead small armed groups that are quickly destroyed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Did you think it would be Georgia and the Armed Forces of Ukraine would run? Then the General Staff is completely divorced from reality, and there are also enough hat throwers.
          1. just exp
            just exp 26 February 2022 10: 59
            +4
            there were missile attacks, at first they calibrated more than a hundred targets, but along the way, either some of them were poorly calibrated or they were more than covered.
            but at the expense of small groups there is little information, because as soon as about the landing in Gostomel it was clear that there were few of them, and the rest seemed to be full-fledged groups, there is a video where the population shoots columns that stretch for kilometers. there and a bunch of self-propelled guns had nothing to do with Acacia or Gvozdika, but Msta, and there really were a lot of them, and tanks and TOSs. here are the roadblocks, yes, there may be small groups, but usually small ones where help can quickly come up.
            1. YOUR
              YOUR 26 February 2022 15: 16
              +11
              According to Gostomel, they apparently believed that our motorized rifles and tanks would quickly come to the aid of the landing force. However, they ran into resistance and the landing did not receive proper support at the time.
              The account was calibrated. CR is not a panacea. What can she do with the airfield. Let's say it rushed in the middle of the runway, and that's it. Fragments of concrete were raked to the side and the pit was filled with concrete. A maximum of a day and the airfield is ready for use. In order to disable it, you need a good air raid to bombard it with special bombs. There is such a weight in the region of hundreds of kg, after the reset it is stabilized by a parachute, the jet engine is turned on. I hope further is clear. So you need to drop a few dozen of them.
              Wait and see. It will be great if they draw conclusions and begin to solve the accumulated problems, first of all, with the execution of a military order.
              1. just exp
                just exp 26 February 2022 22: 13
                +4
                I am aware of how airfields and runways are restored after raids, as well as in the course of what they are destroyed.
                You are describing concrete-piercing bombs, the runways do not have a thickness of many meters of concrete, the runways are destroyed by cluster munitions that have an average weight of 5-10 km and from warheads they scatter over a large area and they should just make a big hole in one slab, but there should be a lot of these holes so cassettes. and yes, the airfield services, if they have everything, restore the runway in less than an hour (the emnip standard is 45 minutes after a major raid).
                and the KR had such warheads, although due to the weight of the warheads and the number of missiles required, this is a very expensive topic, so plan to use them only to destroy super-important targets (such as the Ramstein base). for the rest bombs with cassettes
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 26 February 2022 22: 48
                0
                At the Gostomel airfield, our paratroopers lost 17-200 men.
                1. YOUR
                  YOUR 27 February 2022 02: 27
                  +8
                  Our MO does not recognize losses at all. All questions and photo facts are answered by this lie and lies. Incomprehensible position.
              3. Jager
                Jager 27 February 2022 16: 03
                0
                The problem is that plowing up airfields is also a so-so idea - unlike the aircraft of the Great Patriotic War, modern combat and transport vehicles cannot take off from unpaved strips. And therefore, the broken airfield will not be able to receive our aviation, landing, combat and transport, into borscht.
                1. timokhin-aa
                  1 March 2022 14: 44
                  +3
                  unlike aircraft of the Great Patriotic War, modern combat and transport vehicles cannot take off from unpaved strips


                  Educational program

                  https://topwar.ru/170069-likbez-bezajerodromnoe-i-rassredotochennoe-bazirovanie-aviacii.html
                  1. Jager
                    Jager 1 March 2022 16: 42
                    0
                    And what then the main strategic objects are airfields? Especially at this time of the year. What is Pristina, what is Gostomel, what is the Hungarian Veszprem? And they would fly to themselves from the ground. So it also needs to be prepared. You can, of course, land an airliner in a cornfield or on water.
                    1. timokhin-aa
                      1 March 2022 18: 31
                      +2
                      I just pointed out a mistake to you - you write that planes cannot fly from the ground, I show that they can.
        3. Svateev
          Svateev 2 March 2022 18: 55
          0
          "Do we have collimators? Yes, in many parts. But, alas, the father commanders do not want to be responsible for them, in the end, in order to prevent the fighters from breaking them by mistake and not reporting for them later, the fighters go into battle without them ."
          The problem is not in the commanders, but in the collimators themselves, more precisely, in the fact that their aiming mark is reduced to 400m, which gives a too high trajectory for a direct shot at the lying infantry. More about this problem on this site in the article "The system corrects the error. TSNIITOCHMASH against?" - link not to search
          https://topwar.ru/135696-sistema-ispravlyaet-oshibku-cniitochmash-protiv.html
          And in the 1P87 collimator for the AK-12, the entire reticle was unsuccessful, which was corrected and ... again through one place.
          How to multiply the probability of hitting due to the correct direct shot and due to more accurate bringing the weapon to normal combat is described by www.svateev-va.rf
          Now the guys in the battles will be very useful!
          1. Living7111972
            Living7111972 7 March 2022 22: 25
            0
            When I served, we bought everything we needed ourselves, communications, sights, shoes, camouflage. If you want comfort, pay. But it's not scary to go out in search
      2. knn54
        knn54 26 February 2022 10: 47
        +5
        Article plus.
        And some of the comments are reminiscent of hat-bearing slogans / posters in the early days of WWI, the Winter War.
        I would like to add a couple of points:
        A lot of smart officers have left the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine over these eight years.
        The heads of the respective departments are "peacetime" generals. I am sure that most are children / nephews / sons-in-law.
        I received stripes and now there is only one problem left - deputy sycophant.
        For sensible and enterprising and can sit up.
        For such, war is a disaster. For it will show their complete failure.
        Look at the American soldier. Without exaggeration, piece goods. And Russian women today, alas, do not want to give birth ..
        It seems that NEW equipment is either in parades or as part of foreign armies.
        And the last thing: feel the difference - Russia won or Ukraine lost.
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 26 February 2022 10: 59
          +3
          This piece goods did nothing in Afghanistan
        2. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 26 February 2022 11: 19
          0
          What's the plus side of it? There is enough nonsense and even nonsense.
          The first - 200 either paratroopers or scouts at the airfield. Yes, two hundred only two hundred HELICOPTERS, and even if only half of the Mi-8s, then this is at least 800 people.
          Last
          In PR, we have the Russian Aerospace Forces, in real life we ​​"ted" five missiles per airbase.
          .
          1. Aag
            Aag 27 February 2022 10: 03
            0
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            What's the plus side of it? There is enough nonsense and even nonsense.
            The first - 200 either paratroopers or scouts at the airfield. Yes, two hundred only two hundred HELICOPTERS, and even if only half of the Mi-8s, then this is at least 800 people.
            Last
            In PR, we have the Russian Aerospace Forces, in real life we ​​"ted" five missiles per airbase.
            .

            It seems that they announced about 20 helicopters attracted for landing? ... Just 200 fighters.
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 27 February 2022 10: 09
              +3
              Quote: AAG
              It seems that they announced about 20 helicopters attracted for landing? ... Just 200 fighters.
              Even 20 Mi-8AMTSh is up to 400 troops.
              And in RIA "Novosti" we are talking about
              More than 200 Russian helicopters were involved in the operation.
              I don’t think that 180 out of 200 helicopters were combat. hi
              1. Aag
                Aag 27 February 2022 10: 14
                0
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Quote: AAG
                It seems that they announced about 20 helicopters attracted for landing? ... Just 200 fighters.
                Even 20 Mi-8AMTSh is up to 400 troops.
                And in RIA "Novosti" we are talking about
                More than 200 Russian helicopters were involved in the operation.
                I don’t think that 180 out of 200 helicopters were combat. hi

                Well if so... hi
        3. musketon64
          musketon64 26 February 2022 11: 32
          +11
          I also give the article a plus. All problems as they are. But the only thing I would like to remind the author is how the Western European "packed" Air Force and their formations, which helped the militants in Libya, tormented Gaddafi's small army for several months, shot their entire high-precision arsenal in a couple of weeks, but did not achieve anything and then were forced to turn to the Americans for support.
          In my opinion, it is a big mistake of our command that from the first days of the operation they began to "mandalize" with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, instead of wetting them in full. Up to the destruction of personnel right in the barracks, causing a demoralizing effect for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Apply TOC more widely where possible. Ukrainians are such a people that they love to show off very much, but when they get hit by cabbage soup, they immediately become offended in the style of “what is it for us?”, Peaceful and accommodating. It was about them that someone said well - they bite the hand of the giver, and lick the boot of the kicker. You need to act tough against them, without any adjustments for "fraternity", and do not expect that they will come running to surrender.
          1. victor50
            victor50 26 February 2022 12: 06
            +7
            Quote: musketone64
            Ukrainians are such a people that they love to show off very much, but when they get

            every fifth person there is Russian. And a significant part of Ukrainians, promising everything, is not the same as you, and I, would like to see - there would be less blood. However, until the resistance is broken.
          2. saigon
            saigon 26 February 2022 16: 01
            +3
            Yes, you have to play dumb with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia does not capture, the Russian troops are liberated, that's the difference.
            The land is its own, whatever you say, people are also their own.
            1. Arpad
              Arpad 26 February 2022 16: 04
              +4
              Quote: saigon
              Yes, you have to play dumb with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia does not capture, the Russian troops are liberated, that's the difference.
              The land is its own, whatever you say, people are also their own.

              Something liberators are not met with flowers request
            2. musketon64
              musketon64 26 February 2022 17: 23
              +2
              Yes, you have to play dumb with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia does not capture, the Russian troops are liberated, that's the difference.
              The land is its own, whatever you say, people are also their own.

              For a significant (even overwhelming) part of the population, whatever one may say, we are precisely the invaders. This must be understood clearly, and they will not be foolish with us. And, therefore, as I wrote above: You need to act against them harshly, without any adjustments for "fraternity", and do not expect that they will resort to surrender.
              Otherwise, we will suffer big losses. I believe that acting extremely harshly against the Armed Forces of Ukraine will allow the Russian army not only to reduce the loss of personnel, but also to initially suppress the will to resist the enemy and force them to surrender. That, in principle, will allow as soon as possible to end the hostilities with destruction and losses on both sides.
      3. The fog
        The fog 26 February 2022 11: 03
        +5
        The article is wonderful and accurately reflects the real state of affairs, and not according to the Zvezda TC. Here, it does not say about miscalculations and shortcomings, about mistakes that need to be corrected.
      4. Escobar
        Escobar 26 February 2022 11: 25
        -3
        Duck it's time to learn to read - get fit in life
      5. victor50
        victor50 26 February 2022 11: 58
        +12
        Quote: bar
        I didn’t even read the article, one introduction and the author’s name were enough.

        Can't? Or is it scary to know the truth? Go somewhere near Kyiv, ask the soldiers what is wrong in this article? The author has been calling for many years to take the country's security seriously, but people like you "have not read", "he is a defeatist, but everything is cool with us, the whole world is in ruins", they expect that you can watch propaganda from TV all your life from the couch, and that the war will never touch him, and the soldiers are what they are needed for, to die, most importantly, not to me, and so that later there would be a beautiful picture with a victorious flag.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 February 2022 22: 58
          +3
          That's what the author is 100% right in is that we have a very secluded presentation of information on the coverage of hostilities where videos from reconnaissance UAVs of a column of destroyed equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine where our correspondents are at the forefront not only in the LDNR where videos of the destruction of equipment from helicopters show nothing of this. Only YouTube and Telegram as sources of similar information about progress and losses.
          1. max702
            max702 28 February 2022 21: 06
            0
            All coverage of the database was forbidden in order not to offend the brotherly people .. Like we are liberators and they are waiting for us there .. This is the main mistake of the operation .. The same rake since 68 .. You can’t show Ukraine’s terrible losses, they will offend you ... in response, we have what we have a complete defeat on the information front .. And from the same paradigm, the actions of our troops are half a dozen .. Why was it necessary to introduce a ground contingent? In the hope that everyone will scatter? Well, there is such an option, but subject to showing strength and decisiveness, and you can show it with long and thorough bombing, as the United States has shown in Yugoslavia. everything is broken, but in Yugoslavia it worked to break something, the people whined very quickly and raised their paws .... In a couple of weeks it was possible to completely knock out a military component even with cast iron, but no, apparently they considered it expensive and brought in infantry .. By the way, we have there is such a corps LDNR. from them it was necessary to radically strengthen them with heavy weapons, organize target designation and air support, and in the same two weeks they would multiply the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass by zero, as there, with 200 artillery barrels per km of front, they don’t report on the enemy .. But this is the lyrics and the main the reason for the failure is FABRICITY!! Alas, for now, the attitude towards Ukraine as to our own people will pay for it with blood .. And as for the lack of precision weapons, it’s not a fact that it doesn’t exist, it’s very likely that the General Staff keeps in mind the further development of events up to the war with NATO .. ​​But I repeat the whole trouble in bartsk nationality..
            rs: Timokhin's whining about the lack of sights, nightlights, target designators, cheap drones and other infantry equipment is very strange after his opuses about the need for the AUG fleet and other similar mura .. The cost of his Wishlist just puts an end to equipping the ground forces with everything necessary, and very probably some official, having read his next masterpiece, thought about it and did not sign the allocation of funds for what was really needed .. So the author would have thought about his wrecking activities.
            1. timokhin-aa
              5 March 2022 22: 47
              +3
              Timokhin's whining about the lack of sights, nightlights, target designators, cheap drones and other infantry equipment is very strange after his opuses about the need for the AUG fleet and other similar mura


              If you had a mind, you would have seen that we have neither “mura” nor optics, motorcycle leagues and T-72AVs are going into battle, and the loot was leaving somewhere, and peppy reports were read.

              So there was no choice, everything was chosen by other people.
              1. max702
                max702 6 March 2022 08: 22
                -2
                Quote: timokhin-aa
                So there was no choice, everything was chosen by other people.

                But people like YOU! This was greatly contributed .. Live with it ..
                1. timokhin-aa
                  7 March 2022 00: 30
                  +2
                  Do not lala.

                  This is just a hysterical transfer of arrows from Field Marshall Shoigu to a blogger.

                  Do you know that one "Ash" costs like half of "Nimitz"? Did I push through "Ash" or what?
                  1. max702
                    max702 7 March 2022 06: 45
                    -3
                    You tried to push through this crap, there was no Nimitz, but there is Ash .. And people like you were more successful in their wrecking, you are the ENEMY! And I spoke about this more than once .. I think that after a while you will be dealt with ..
                    1. timokhin-aa
                      11 March 2022 23: 32
                      +1
                      Doctors will take care of you
                      1. max702
                        max702 12 March 2022 08: 51
                        -3
                        Sushi crackers ... Doctors are not interested in you, but the investigator is very ..
                      2. timokhin-aa
                        13 March 2022 02: 53
                        0
                        But you are not interesting to the investigators at all, but you better not get to the doctor.
                        laughing
      6. aleks_29296
        aleks_29296 26 February 2022 20: 22
        +3
        I didn't read it, but I condemn? Somewhere I already heard it.
      7. Vlad Baryatinsky
        Vlad Baryatinsky 26 February 2022 20: 46
        +11
        Quote: bar
        According to the author and article.

        Dear Author, right!
        Quote: bar
        Timokhin is a well-known alarmist and defeatist

        The author really painted a picture of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, OUR Army with you.
        The picture is actually darker. Dear Forum users, perhaps limited access to Western media. I have this opportunity, due to life circumstances I HAVE to live in the Netherlands!
        And now the BAD TRUTH! Our nineteen-year-old boys are being mercilessly shot in the rear by the "hulks".
        My attitude to this "fratricidal war" (!) is not a secret for anyone.
        But what happened happened. “The Rubicon has been crossed”, and “they don’t change horses at the crossing” (!)
        NOW YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE END! The IMAGE OF RUSSIA AND OUR ARMY is at stake!
        Grit your teeth, rally and go to complete control over Ukraine! Alas, we don't have another one. If now we give up slack and compromise, then THE PRICE OF OUR STATEMENTS AND THE BLOOD shed by OUR WARRIORS IS GREAT!
        And the West along the way seriously undertook to fight to the last Ukrainian.
        Personally, in the Netherlands, over 400 (FOUR HUNDREDS, KARL!) only in the province of Gelderland signed up former military Dutchmen for the war in Ukraine. And so almost throughout Western Europe.
        About modern weapons, “I will nervously keep silent”, which is handed over to Ukrainians.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 February 2022 23: 00
          -7
          And now the BAD TRUTH! Our nineteen-year-old boys are Pitilessly shot in the rear by the "hulks". If my memory serves me right, then in Russia there is a law prohibiting the use of conscripts in military operations abroad - only contract soldiers. And yes, for your Dutch and other deer that are recorded for playing war games - here Ramzan suggested, in which case, another 100000 fighters should be formed and sent past 12000 that yesterday sent another 20 Wagnerites to Ukraine from today, plus they are ready to send up to 200000 from the National Guard and several thousand more people from the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the FSB, and so on. So tell your Euro-assers who, together with the Nazis and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, will fight side by side - Ukraine will become a 100% grave for them.
          1. Vlad Baryatinsky
            Vlad Baryatinsky 27 February 2022 15: 15
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            euroass

            Not happy to meet you! And control yourself. I am not that brother in misfortune. Look for people like you to interact with.
  2. Amateur
    Amateur 26 February 2022 09: 50
    -2
    I really want to sincerely speak out about the next product of Timokhin's creativity. But this
    there will be a guaranteed lifetime ban on VO. Timokhin will be able to continue his "creativity", but I will not be able to express my opinion. Therefore, I will speak diplomatically: I did not like it.
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 26 February 2022 11: 15
      +2
      And I, so diplomatically, will not succeed. good
  3. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 26 February 2022 09: 51
    -3
    I didn’t understand what was written about, we don’t know how to fight? Timokhin needs to go to the General Staff to prompt the clumsy generals.
    1. Sergey2809
      Sergey2809 26 February 2022 09: 53
      -6
      Better in Ukrainian or NATO right away!
    2. just exp
      just exp 26 February 2022 10: 13
      +13
      however, there were punctures and we are responsible for this with blood.
      or will you agree to personally answer for unnecessary losses?
      I'm talking about the fact that there is a video of our lined equipment and killed soldiers who are from the rear units, they were killed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who, as they thought at the top, would not resist.
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 10: 34
      +13
      Quote: Pessimist22
      I didn’t understand what was written about, we don’t know how to fight?

      Your question is correct:
      I didn’t understand, the author was trying to say that Russia does not know how to fight?
      =====
      The author tried to say that in the upcoming war, as in the case of a sudden attack by a larger adversary, in addition to the ability to fight, the Russian Armed Forces would not interfere with the supply of the necessary weapons in sufficient quantities.
      hi
      1. your1970
        your1970 26 February 2022 19: 16
        +3
        Quote: ROSS 42
        in the event of a sudden attack by a larger adversary, in addition to the ability to fight the Russian Armed Forces, it would not hurt to supply the necessary weapons in sufficient quantities

        And also the number of a million in 2-3, yeah ...
        We are now waging a war against 35 million countries with a huge area of ​​​​anecdotal forces in terms of numbers ... naturally there will be attacks on the rear - there is nothing to stupidly cover them with
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 February 2022 23: 18
          -6
          We are now waging war with 500000 Vushnikovs and Natsiks - 162000 of course is not enough for such an operation, but our Armed Forces have the initiative and one of these days a significant increase in the grouping will come to ours with semi-soft power in the hope that the Vushniks will lay down their arms in a couple of days will come to naught and the army will work to the maximum using the entire range of videoconferencing. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are already having problems with fuel for equipment due to the large shortage of it and with ammunition for the same cannon artillery, they begin to appear.
        2. highlight
          highlight 26 February 2022 23: 51
          +3
          It's called Adventure. It was necessary to fight with sanctions on Ukraine since 2015. Do not give money, do not allow Ukrainian enterprises to earn money in the Russian Federation, do not sell fuel and lubricants and spare parts.
          And about the reception of Yanukovych instead of motivating him to keep Kharkiv in 2014, this is an enchanting diplomatic fail.
          It turns out the junta-recognized-junta-recognize trade, now again aggravation.
          1. timokhin-aa
            28 February 2022 02: 39
            +5
            It was necessary to fight with sanctions on Ukraine since 2015. Do not give money, do not allow Ukrainian enterprises to earn money in the Russian Federation, do not sell fuel and lubricants and spare parts.


            Verily
  4. Sergey2809
    Sergey2809 26 February 2022 09: 52
    -12
    The message of the article is to instill uncertainty in our abilities? The author wants to hype and be thoughtfully original
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 10: 29
      +15
      Quote: Sergey2809
      The message of the article is to instill uncertainty in our abilities?

      The message of the article is to determine the compliance of the combat readiness of the RF Armed Forces with the statements of officials of the Ministry of Defense and officials from the military-industrial complex (Rostec) and the real combat capabilities of the special operations forces ... If you do not understand this, make the analysis more detailed and instill confidence in us by exposing the author's lies .
      1. Sergey2809
        Sergey2809 26 February 2022 10: 33
        -8
        It is necessary to prepare for war, but it is impossible to be ready for it.
        Do not forget about the "friends" behind the puddle, no one has canceled them, they have been waiting and waiting for when they can hit us.
        But the truth is the way it is presented, such a "truth" ruined the Union.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 10: 40
          -1
          Quote: Sergey2809
          Prepare for warЬbut it is impossible to be ready for it.

          Before writing messages, you need to study the infinitive and the degree of combat readiness of the RF Armed Forces. It is precisely the different degrees of combat readiness, the timely notification of the RF Armed Forces, the ability of the army to receive them that is the readiness for war ...
          hi
      2. Sergey2809
        Sergey2809 26 February 2022 21: 29
        -6
        What did you not analyze a month ago, but only now?
        Panic trying to sow!
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 27 February 2022 14: 51
          +3
          Quote: Sergey2809
          What did you not analyze a month ago, but only now?

          Month? The author has been writing for several years about the backlog of our Navy and incomprehensible funding distribution schemes, when the really necessary ships and weapons systems are pushed in to please advantageous for certain people.
          1. Sergey2809
            Sergey2809 27 February 2022 16: 46
            -2
            Well, why didn’t you support him, now it’s too late to drink Borjomi, what has grown has grown.
            There, Zeleny is trying to talk about the results, although our results are not very good, as I understand it, less than 25% of the territory is under our control, and the question arises of starting to supply our fighters.
            1. timokhin-aa
              5 March 2022 22: 49
              +2
              Well, why didn’t you support him, now it’s too late to drink Borjomi, what has grown has grown.


              How convenient, huh? Neither you conclusions for the future, nor work on mistakes, as it is, it is, eat do not frown.

              But I will disappoint you - far from all people are slaves from birth, not at all.
    2. victor50
      victor50 26 February 2022 12: 10
      +1
      Quote: Sergey2809
      The message of the article is to instill uncertainty in our abilities?

      Are you, sir, at the forefront, or has the author spoiled the beautiful picture that has developed on your sofa?
  5. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 26 February 2022 09: 52
    +6
    Damn, Timokhin and Klimov work in the General Staff? Multi-station specialists, both for the fleet, and for coastal defense, and for naval aviation, have now reached the point of conducting special operations, both by the army and by special services. Directly unique, directly remove Gerasimov from his post and appoint Timokhin.
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 26 February 2022 10: 02
      +5
      Quote: Okolotochny
      Multi-station specialists, both for the fleet, and for coastal defense, and for naval aviation, have now reached the point of conducting special operations, both by the army and by special services.

      Very special ... the fuel depots were destroyed, but the planes were not - ayayay, oyoy ... and that planes fly without fuel? Then why pay more ...
      1. KERMET
        KERMET 26 February 2022 11: 31
        +4
        Bringing fuel is much faster than restoring or even creating an airplane from scratch.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 26 February 2022 13: 49
          +1
          In order to deliver "something" you need to have this "something". Well, and be able to carry ...
          1. KERMET
            KERMET 26 February 2022 14: 37
            +5
            As soon as they stand for some time and show their readiness to fight, the "Western partners" will begin to help, it's all about time
            1. mat-vey
              mat-vey 26 February 2022 14: 46
              0
              Quote: KERMET
              As soon as they stand for some time and show their readiness to fight, the "Western partners" will begin to help, it's all about time

              If you use ammunition rationally, the enemy will be less likely to "survive". Logistics has always been the bottleneck of any war ..
          2. timokhin-aa
            5 March 2022 22: 50
            -1
            Well, now at least something has become clear?
            1. Liam
              Liam 7 March 2022 00: 57
              -3
              Quote: timokhin-aa
              Well, now at least something has become clear?

              Well ... 10 days of the war have passed. We are waiting for an article review on the intermediate results. There is plenty of material
      2. Repellent
        Repellent 26 February 2022 16: 59
        -3
        Quote: mat-vey
        and that planes fly without fuel? Then why pay more ...

        Right! Capture aircraft, drain the awl from them, the rest for spare parts laughing
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 26 February 2022 17: 05
          -1
          Quote: Repellent
          drain the awl from them, the rest for spare parts

          Why this vandalism laughing It’s necessary to arm the local self-defense forces with something later. Not all the same, keep the army there - it’s expensive ..
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 10: 25
      -2
      Quote: Okolotochny
      Directly unique, directly remove Gerasimov from his post and appoint Timokhin.

      How about an advisor? Maybe there are semi-literate "specialists" or lost relatives of some high-ranking officials in the environment? lol
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 26 February 2022 11: 10
        -1
        Ros, I respect you precisely for your point of view, even though I sometimes disagree with it, you are not a weather vane or a slogan, I upvoted you. And along the way, the Zelia has such advisers. Such work does not like cheap PR, the same articles and other things. And I am glad that completely different people serve in the General Staff of the Russian Federation.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 11: 17
          +13
          Quote: Okolotochny
          And I am glad that completely different people serve in the General Staff of the Russian Federation.

          It’s completely clear to me that there are many opponents of hatred. That is why I support the author in the desire to find out where this is new, what was (should have been) received by the troops?
          Where are these "Lancets" who are obliged to clear the firing positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions? Where are these "Orions" (the results of their work)?
          Demilitarization and denazification should not inflict losses on the personnel of the RF Armed Forces, I assume.
          1. Alexey G
            Alexey G 27 February 2022 00: 18
            +7
            Yes, about the Lancets and Orions, and at least the red-fields, and I asked yesterday and the day before yesterday, but they slapped me a bunch of minuses and that's it!
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 26 February 2022 11: 07
      +16
      Quote: Okolotochny
      Damn, Timokhin and Klimov work in the General Staff? Multi-station specialists, both for the fleet, and for coastal defense, and for naval aviation, have now reached the point of conducting special operations, both by the army and by special services. Directly unique, directly remove Gerasimov from his post and appoint Timokhin.

      Hi! hi
      To be honest, the view of our "naked" infantry fighting vehicles on the theater of operations is saturated with anti-tank weapons, incl. The latest generation ATGM raises many questions. As well as work on airfields. As well as the basing of military aircraft within the radius of destruction of the enemy's OTP. As well as air support for troops. As well as the interaction of drying air.
      Many questions.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 26 February 2022 11: 57
        -3
        Hey Albert. There is a MO budget that is spent on what is needed here and now. Agree? I have money, I'm thinking of buying one stray for the house, a compressor or a gas generator. But no, there are other items of expenditure, more urgent. So here.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 26 February 2022 13: 22
          +5
          I agree, especially since the army manifests itself only during the war, which, fortunately, is very rare. Prior to this, it is almost impossible to evaluate the effectiveness of its logistics and management, however, for this there is the experience of wars in other countries, which is not bad to track
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 26 February 2022 15: 22
            +1
            It's not a boy, but a husband))) How is Krasnodar, is it worth it? And then I was transferred to the city of Azov, I am at home only on weekends.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 26 February 2022 17: 23
              +2
              Costs ))
              And things got up laughing
              Soon, apart from things, nothing will stand))))
              Transferred to an existing branch or expanded?
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 27 February 2022 14: 52
          +4
          Quote: Okolotochny
          There is a MO budget that is spent on what is needed here and now.

          To modernize the forty-year-old BMP-1? To Patriot Park? To Yunarmiya? For tank biathlon? what
    4. victor50
      victor50 26 February 2022 12: 12
      +1
      Quote: Okolotochny
      Directly unique, directly remove Gerasimov from his post and appoint Timokhin.

      And better than you. You, too, know everything. Apparently, Timokhin and Klimov are better - they are definitely not right.
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 26 February 2022 13: 12
        -5
        But did I advise the leadership of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff somewhere how to act? I do not meddle with my exclusive opinion on issues that I do not understand. Do you? Come on, light it up. And if so, what is your education and work or service experience?
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 26 February 2022 20: 38
        -2
        Read my post, where did I advise the leadership of the Moscow Region how to act? You are a banal verbiage, farted off topic.
  6. bar
    bar 26 February 2022 09: 54
    -2
    And only in the middle of the 25th, when our tanks broke through to the airfield, the Department of Information and Mass Communications finally told about them.
    And if the Ukrainians succeeded, then what, DIMK MO continued to pretend that nothing had happened?

    Timokhin offended? But in vain. MO is engaged in business, not reports to the progressive public. The progressive public on their sofas will not go anywhere, they will wait.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 10: 21
      +13
      Quote: bar
      The progressive public on their sofas will not go anywhere, they will wait.

      The progressive public is those citizens who, thanks to their uncomplaining work and agreement with the taxes levied, finance those same RF Armed Forces. It has the right to know whether this financing is in sufficient quantity and for the intended purpose.
      1. timokhin-aa
        28 February 2022 02: 37
        +3
        these are the citizens who, thanks to their uncomplaining work and agreement with the taxes levied, are financing those same RF Armed Forces.


        And replenishment, and twice, first by himself, then by a child.
    2. Silhouette
      Silhouette 26 February 2022 16: 54
      +10
      What did you attack Timokhin? You try to disprove it or prove the opposite. I can not. Alas.
      1. DominickS
        DominickS 27 February 2022 05: 29
        +3
        For rebuttals, fifteen-ruble blanks simply do not have enough convolutions. The main thing for them is to crow louder.
    3. Storekeeper
      Storekeeper 27 February 2022 10: 15
      +2
      The progressive public is those citizens whose children are now riding on tin BMPs across Ukraine. And the public has the right to know what has been done to ensure that the children return home!!!!
  7. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 26 February 2022 10: 01
    -2
    And how do they capture the airfield? We need him apparently whole and under control. Therefore, they sent out the advance detachment. And apparently he had such a task. Hold. Ensure the landing of the rest of the forces. I didn't follow the fight. And with what joy should the MO explain something while conducting operations? What's the new wonder?
  8. _Sergei_
    _Sergei_ 26 February 2022 10: 06
    -11
    In 1941, such a poet as the author would have been put against the wall as an alarmist and provocateur. Now there is a war going on. And we need to support our military.
    1. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 26 February 2022 11: 44
      +12
      Before the Russian-Japanese war in 1904 and before the Second World War in 1941, there were also hatred moods. The first was lost, the second lost 27 million people. Turn on criticism. Mistakes must be seen and corrected. And the author writes that the miscalculation of the command is AGAIN corrected by the blood and heroism of those same military men. This is support, not screams from the couch.
    2. victor50
      victor50 26 February 2022 12: 17
      +8
      Quote: _Sergey_
      In 1941, such a poet as the author would have been put against the wall as an alarmist and provocateur. Now there is a war going on. And we need to support our military.

      And where did you see that it does not support? And what happened at 41 and 42 as a result of the capricious mood of many, do you remember? I can say that my grandfather died, and both my wife. And it is better to be very critical of the state of defense capability, the Armed Forces, the presence of modern weapons in them, than to look for excuses for shed blood, losses, and failures later.
      1. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ 26 February 2022 12: 23
        -11
        Answer me a simple question: if he had asked this question in 1941, not in the press, they would not have let him in, but simply with people on the street, why is the army retreating? What would happen to him.
        1. victor50
          victor50 26 February 2022 12: 29
          +4
          Quote: _Sergey_
          Answer me a simple question: if he had asked this question in 1941, not in the press, they would not have let him in, but simply with people on the street, why is the army retreating? What would happen to him.

          The question is rhetorical. And tell me, do you apparently agree with the author, but are you afraid to ask a question or support him for the reasons that were voiced (about the 41st and ask the citizens)? So what did the author write wrong? How does he harm our army, which is fighting? The one that offers to urgently correct the shortcomings that he saw? He did a lot to make the shortcomings and mistakes in the construction of the Navy noticed at the top. Let a little more. Don’t you admit that if he and others like him hadn’t shouted about it, then the General Staff and others who should have not moved until now?
          1. _Sergei_
            _Sergei_ 26 February 2022 13: 10
            -4
            You didn't answer my "rhetorical" question
            1. victor50
              victor50 26 February 2022 13: 28
              +2
              You didn't even understand. what answered. For you personally, in most cases he would have been handed over to the NKVD, partially passed by. Do you just ask questions and don't think to answer them yourself? Yes, of course. conveniently. Especially if you ask not on the merits, but so ... about.
              1. _Sergei_
                _Sergei_ 26 February 2022 13: 31
                -4
                What I wrote in the first comment that he would have been shot hi
                1. victor50
                  victor50 26 February 2022 13: 34
                  +3
                  Quote: _Sergey_
                  What I wrote in the first comment that he would have been shot hi

                  I have a lot of questions about your comment. Come on, you choose what is convenient for you, the main thing is that it does not contradict your message.
        2. timokhin-aa
          27 February 2022 01: 46
          +6
          There would be nothing. If you believe the classics of Soviet prose, then the question "Are you going to let a German go to the Urals?" military heard in those days often.

          A counter question - why do you want us to get stuck again like in 41?
    3. Alexey G
      Alexey G 27 February 2022 00: 22
      +1
      Seryoga, we support them every day! There is no panic here, there is a desire to improve !!!
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 February 2022 14: 57
      +2
      Quote: _Sergey_
      In 1941, such a poet as the author would have been put against the wall as an alarmist and provocateur.

      And in 1940, following the results of the war with Finland, there was a whole meeting with such alarmist and provocative speeches - including, by the way, of.

      The current operation is, PMSM, the closest analogue of SPV. Up to the same expectations as on the other side - duped bourgeois propaganda to ordinary people.
      The harmful prejudice was deeply rooted that the supposedly population of the countries entering the war with the USSR would inevitably, and almost without exception, rise and go over to the side of the Red Army, that the workers and peasants would meet us with flowers. This false belief arises from ignorance of the actual situation in neighboring countries. The war in Finland showed that we did not conduct political intelligence in the northern regions and therefore did not know with what slogans to go to this population and how to conduct work among them. We often treated the peasants as a working class, but it turns out that this peasant is a big fist, a Shutskorovets, and he reacts in his own way. Collision with reality demagnetizes our fighter and commander, who is used to viewing the population of foreign countries from a general - superficial point of view.
      © Mehlis
      1. _Sergei_
        _Sergei_ 27 February 2022 15: 38
        -2
        And in 1940, following the results of the war with Finland, there was a whole meeting

        At the end of the war, not during the war
  9. kalibr
    kalibr 26 February 2022 10: 09
    +7
    Very good article!
  10. Ren
    Ren 26 February 2022 10: 09
    +1
    There is an official ze appeal on the network about operation Z
  11. Maxim Shalak
    Maxim Shalak 26 February 2022 10: 10
    0
    So Serdyukov was removed early, before he had time to do a normal rearmament. And Shoigu is the parade general, for reports. I have not yet seen his merits at all, except for puffing out his cheeks and beautiful reports to the Supreme.
  12. Dmitry Zverev
    Dmitry Zverev 26 February 2022 10: 14
    -4
    Sorry, tens of thousands of liberal citizens of Russia are yelling every day that the government is pumping all the money into the defense industry. And it would be better if the pensioners were given money that they plan to spend on new ships, tanks and missiles. So where to go to our military? You can't jump above your head. The modernization of the army and navy is proceeding as far as it can go, and no more. There is nothing to discuss. Just wish good luck to our soldiers and officers in battle. God bless them!
    1. timokhin-aa
      28 February 2022 02: 36
      +4
      The modernization of the army and navy is proceeding as far as it can go, and no more.


      Lies, this is not so, with a rational expenditure of money, we would have completely different troops.
      For example, take the Yasen-M submarine. Do you know how much it costs?
      Something like:

      one nuclear submarine at the level of the 971 project, single-hulled, with modern weapons + two frigates of project 22350 + a Su-30SM squadron in the naval assault aviation regiment + repair the Kuznetsov to the state of a new ship (without a dock) for the remainder.

      Doesn't this raise questions for you?
  13. igorra
    igorra 26 February 2022 10: 14
    +4
    And no one promised Mr. Timokhin an easy walk. Ukrainians, the same Russians and not Arabs at all, abandoning their tanks at the first sounds of shelling. And the Russians know how to fight. Why started? Probably, something hit the edge, since we started not quite ready. Especially killed, the General Staff does not talk in social networks about its actions in the present. Do you really think that it should be like this - the reconnaissance of the Airborne Forces, in the amount of 200 people, having so many small and heavy weapons, a certain amount of ammunition, is currently capturing such and such an airfield. And then in the process - such and such losses, the rest of the ammunition. Not funny yourself? And as for what was not built or not completed - the state is a complex mechanism and there are a lot of details in it - clans, and these details pull on their loved ones "grease". If even under Stalin, what kind of money was not built, the war put it in its place, then Putin is far from Stalin, and the system is completely different. He doesn't have those levers. So we fight with what we have.
    1. KERMET
      KERMET 26 February 2022 11: 35
      +3
      Well, why didn’t they promise, if you read some comments - they guarantee an easy walk
    2. Alexey G
      Alexey G 27 February 2022 00: 32
      0
      This is certainly true, but this does not mean that it should be so or that it should not be fought!
  14. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 26 February 2022 10: 16
    +2

    The footage shows the voluntary surrender of the Ukrainian military on Zmeiny Island. They get dry rations.

    These are precisely the servicemen whom Zelensky publicly buried, saying that they all died in battle.
    1. frog
      frog 26 February 2022 11: 19
      -9
      And can you find out in what place of the Snake is such a luxurious pier? About the size of the island itself? if you believe the satellite - there is nothing like it in size .....
      1. frog
        frog 26 February 2022 11: 37
        -6
        Minusators - a big hello and wishes of health!)) At least physical wink
        And the curbs on Serpentine were painted ....
        Just change the caption under the photo - and no questions asked. But not patriotic...
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 26 February 2022 11: 54
          +7
          Ask yourself a question, should they have been left on the island? And what will they eat? wassat
          1. frog
            frog 26 February 2022 15: 11
            +1
            I quite admit to myself that I am dull-witted and tongue-tied. But I retained the remnants of the ability to think, and therefore I will try again, although, obviously, to no avail ...
            The footage does not show the surrender of Ukrainian servicemen to Zmeiny Island. This is a lie. And if you think a little bit, then this is obvious to anyone. The footage shows the unloading of those who have already surrendered (or something else), most likely in Sevastopol.
            No one suggests leaving them on the island, drowning them, or releasing them on all sides. There is roaring - let him think. But the photo with this caption is just a lie. And it is precisely because of this that our propaganda often gets into a puddle.
            So, for reference, I have no love for these. They are under oath, taken voluntarily. Which is not a reason to demonstrate "patriotism" and spread what is usually called fakes. All in all, it was possible to slightly change the caption under the photo and there would be no questions from the word "absolutely". It would be enough to change 3 letters ....
      2. albert
        albert 26 February 2022 15: 11
        +6
        Quote: frog
        And can you find out in what place of the Snake is such a luxurious pier?

        They are already in Sevastopol.
        1. frog
          frog 26 February 2022 18: 26
          -3
          Yes, I'm aware. Starting with the painted borders ..... But what is the caption under the photo?
          We won’t talk modestly about where there are 82 people on that patch of land ....
  15. avia12005
    avia12005 26 February 2022 10: 16
    -7
    To write such articles, one must be at least a senior officer in the Operational Directorate of the General Staff. But the author does not serve there. So most of the conclusions are speculation.
    1. KERMET
      KERMET 26 February 2022 11: 36
      +4
      Most of the article is questions that most sane people have
    2. victor50
      victor50 26 February 2022 12: 20
      -3
      Quote: avia12005
      So most of the conclusions are speculation.

      Or is that what you want? They would tell the truth.
      1. avia12005
        avia12005 27 February 2022 14: 43
        +1
        When I have no data, I am silent. In a rag. They taught me from the 1st year of school.
        1. timokhin-aa
          27 February 2022 19: 26
          +3
          And when is there?
          1. avia12005
            avia12005 28 February 2022 09: 58
            0
            When necessary and possible, dear.
  16. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 10: 16
    +3
    But there are "nuances" and they are unacceptable.

    Russia has nuances, the main of which is that Russia has only two allies: the army and the navy. Only our real allies - the allies of the Russian Federation and the Russian people, who have not become particularly fat over these 30 years of modern history, are on a starvation ration.
    It's time for the President of Russia to convene a state council to resolve the problems of ownership of the country's resources and the rights to dispose of them. At the same time, ask those hundred and two billionaires how they “really want” to take an indispensable part in strengthening the Russian economy and its armed forces ...
    Too many parasites have divorced, allowing themselves to claim the rights to control and great personal wealth. If this does not happen, then the decision will have to be made by the bearer of power himself.
  17. riwas
    riwas 26 February 2022 10: 17
    +2
    MO should give a minimum of information during hostilities - this is the law of war. And the Americans follow it. And most importantly, the tasks of the Defense Ministry have been broadcast in the media more than once: the destruction of the military infrastructure and equipment of Ukraine, the liberation of the LDNR within the borders of 2014 and the cessation of shelling of their territories, the destruction of national battalions, as well as Nazi structures.
  18. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 26 February 2022 10: 19
    +4
    Received information from residents of Kyiv. Now the remnants of the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are massively calling on men from all controlled villages and cities. They are armed and allowed to die! If they go back, they will be shot by detachments.

    Many of them want to surrender, but do not know how. It is necessary to work out the possibility of their surrender and protection from the Nazis shooting in the back. It is necessary to create telegram chats with the names: Surrender, Surrender, I want to surrender, We surrender, so that people can write their data, location and surrender there. We need to help them!

    In Ukraine, the majority of residents do not want to fight and die for the criminal Kyiv regime.

    We ask for maximum distribution.
    1. user1212
      user1212 26 February 2022 10: 40
      +4
      Quote: Tank jacket
      It is necessary to create telegram chats with the names: Surrender, Surrender, I Want to Surrender

      For two days already, addresses for Ukrainian soldiers have been posted in the social networks of the DPR. You can write and agree on the delivery. Another question is that in the offensive zone of the DPR, mostly Nazis, they surrender poorly, and no one promised them a sweet life. There are their accounts
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 26 February 2022 11: 12
        +1
        National guardsmen from one mountainous subject of the Russian Federation are coming to them laughing with the letter H and this is not Chuvashia and not Chukotka.
        1. user1212
          user1212 26 February 2022 11: 14
          +3
          That's why they go smile
        2. Scharnhorst
          Scharnhorst 26 February 2022 18: 17
          +4
          Chelyabinsk region!?... Cheboksary?... Cherepovets?... chebureks?... cheburashki?... suitcases?... If you haven't guessed correctly, you'll have to look into the Officer's Atlas! crying
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 26 February 2022 18: 38
            0

            Servicemen of the FSVNG in the Republic of Chechnya on the territory of the 4th operational brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine. Gostomel.
    2. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 26 February 2022 11: 29
      -1
      I can give a little hint: the Nazis in the detachments are by no means bulletproof, but they give weapons to the mobilized.
    3. albert
      albert 26 February 2022 15: 15
      0
      Quote: Tank jacket
      They are armed and allowed to die!

      Come on! There are no bad ones
      die there. Here is an interesting announcement
  19. Romul_78
    Romul_78 26 February 2022 10: 20
    -7
    To be honest, I can’t imagine how a 35 millionth country can be defeated here without mobilization
    1. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 26 February 2022 11: 04
      -4
      Quote: Romul_78
      To be honest, I can’t imagine how a 35 millionth country can be defeated here without mobilization

      There it is, Mikhalych! So you also want to mobilize in the Russian Federation? Waiting in line at the military registration and enlistment offices?
      1. Romul_78
        Romul_78 26 February 2022 11: 04
        -8
        There is the essence of the question, and there is the one who wrote it. What do you want to discuss?
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 26 February 2022 11: 08
          -6
          Quote: Romul_78
          There is the essence of the question, and there is the one who wrote it. What do you want to discuss?

          Yes, I, in fact, wanted to clarify with you, do you really think that the Russian Federation should mobilize citizens?
          1. Romul_78
            Romul_78 26 February 2022 11: 10
            -5
            I don't know how else to bring a 35 million population under control.
            Not complete, but partial, because the APU has a numerical advantage.
            Plus, you need to control cities, roads, logistics points, fuel supply logistics services, etc., they need to be protected, etc.
            This is not enough for all the current
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 26 February 2022 11: 32
              -4
              Quote: Romul_78
              I don't know how otherwise 35 million people can be brought under control

              It's impossible. And why do you think that with such an ambiguous attitude in society, both to the war and to the course that the government has been pursuing for the past 30 years, it is possible to arm the population? Do you think civilians dream of being in the army, breaking away from their families, who will feed the families?
              1. Romul_78
                Romul_78 26 February 2022 11: 35
                0
                You need to think about this before you get into it.
                Now the reality is that either we take Ukraine under control
                Either we drag out the conflict, strategically lose, unrest begins inside the country from sanctions and loss, and then the question of the integrity of Russia itself
                These are the pies
                1. alekseykabanets
                  alekseykabanets 26 February 2022 12: 36
                  +5
                  Quote: Romul_78
                  Now the reality is that either we take Ukraine under control

                  It is clear that once they got in, then all of Ukraine must be taken under control, otherwise all this does not make sense. The only question is that the Russian Federation does not have enough strength for this.
                  Quote: Romul_78
                  Either we drag out the conflict, strategically lose, unrest begins inside the country from sanctions and loss, and then the question of the integrity of Russia itself
                  These are the pies

                  And it is already clear that it is dragging on and the blitzkrieg did not work, despite the suddenness of the attack. Unrest due to sanctions, rising prices and similar things will definitely be, dissatisfaction with the authorities and social stratification are too high. But the fact is that during the mobilization, unrest will begin even faster, since the motivation of the mobilized will be low, and the families of the mobilized will not be provided with adequate assistance.
                  Threat In 2014, all this had to be done, then there were good chances, but now ....
                  1. Romul_78
                    Romul_78 26 February 2022 12: 53
                    -10
                    Mobilization is not complete, but partial. This will resolve the issue in Ukraine and raise the rating of the authorities at least somehow

                    Should have done this 30 years ago
                    1. alekseykabanets
                      alekseykabanets 26 February 2022 13: 01
                      -4
                      Quote: Romul_78
                      Mobilization is not complete, but partial.

                      It will not change anything.
                      Quote: Romul_78
                      Should have done this 30 years ago

                      If we go deep into history, then it all started much earlier, since the time of Khrushchev.
            2. xASPIDx
              xASPIDx 26 February 2022 13: 08
              0
              If the population of the country where the army of the state came, understands why it came
  20. vervolk
    vervolk 26 February 2022 10: 23
    -13
    what is the essence of the author's claims? what irritates him most of all is that the Russian army is so successfully operating with "old" weapons and equipment? and yet quickly and efficiently? The Armed Forces of Ukraine, as expected, were not ready for war and are now successfully disintegrating into Makhnovist detachments. Claims to take cities are generally some kind of deeply dressy look. why "take" cities and undergo the complexities of urban battles, when you can create a threat to their environment and the enemy himself will drape from there? and so on for each item. Unobtrusively throws up unverified information or even a clear fake about an attack on an airfield in the territory of the Russian Federation. He is trying to present a successful, brilliant operation to seize the airfield in Gostomel as a failure. Clearly, he trusts the informational throws of Ukrainian propaganda more than the data of the RF Ministry of Defense. ideas about the insufficiency of cruise missiles, etc. Does the author think that the operation will be limited to one Ukraine? thinks that we will not have to demilitarize Romania, Moldova and the Baltic states? why should we spend all precision-guided munitions on Ukraine?
    1. viktortarianik
      viktortarianik 26 February 2022 10: 42
      +4
      Or maybe the author really assesses the state of the Russian army? For example, after all the reports about new weapons, their tests and their omnipotence, I really have developed inflated expectations over the past couple of years. New weapons are one thing, but in reality, do they exist in the troops? After all, quality must be translated into quantity. Perhaps the RF Ministry of Defense knows all this and does not voice it, but the author took it and voiced it. At least it is necessary to speak about omissions and shortcomings honestly and without embellishment, only then there will be victories with a minimum of victims. I admit that the Ministry of Defense does this, but without involving the general public in order to avoid information leakage.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 10: 45
      +9
      Quote: vervolk
      what irritates him most of all is that the Russian army is so successfully operating with "old" weapons and equipment?

      Most of all, the author is annoyed by the absence of those new types of weapons, the entry of which into the troops has been talked about for so long Bolsheviks officials from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 February 2022 23: 30
        -2
        Attack and kamikaze drones began to arrive en masse only at the end of last year in the Armed Forces. Now they are just very necessary for our people in Ukraine against all these units of the Natsiks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and their equipment poking around in large medium and small cities.
    3. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 26 February 2022 11: 10
      -1
      Quote: vervolk
      Does the author think that the operation will be limited to one Ukraine? thinks that we will not have to demilitarize Romania, Moldova and the Baltic states? why should we spend all precision-guided munitions on Ukraine?

      But nothing that Romania, Moldova and the Baltic States, members of the NATO bloc?
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 26 February 2022 16: 54
        -1
        But nothing that Romania, Moldova and the Baltic States, members of the NATO bloc?

        Did you personally accept Moldova into NATO, or did you want to "check in" so much that you forgot to remove the pan?
    4. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 26 February 2022 11: 34
      +15
      The author's claims to hatred moods and lack of criticism from the majority of readers. I have been reading enthusiastic nonsense in the comments for 5 days. For me, for example, the news is that Ukrainians can and do shoot down vaunted calibers and other difficult targets. For me, the news is that there is no collimator in the Ratnik kit, or at least it is not used. For me, the news is the use of MTLB in modern warfare. For me, the news is that communications are not guarded and equipment is burned from ambushes. For me, the news is that we are losing the latest aircraft at the airfield. It’s crazy for me that the militias are fighting with the main grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the artillery has not yet been suppressed and shells are flying into Gorlovka. It’s wild for me that we are fighting so relaxed and waving our arms. Guys! We are not expected there. They are enemies, not brothers, and they hate us. Once they got involved, they must be suppressed very harshly and quickly, demonstrating overwhelming technical superiority. There is no need to be afraid of the public, the stigma of the aggressor cannot be washed away already. You have to show strength to be afraid. The strong will have to be spoken to. This is how I understood the article.
      1. victor50
        victor50 26 February 2022 12: 39
        +4
        Ready to sign under every word.
    5. victor50
      victor50 26 February 2022 12: 38
      +7
      Quote: vervolk
      Does the author think that the operation will be limited to one Ukraine? thinks that we will not have to demilitarize Romania, Moldova and the Baltic states? why should we spend all precision-guided munitions on Ukraine?

      And then Ostap suffered! laughing Thanks! Have fun! I have long dreamed of living in a country from the Pacific to the Atlantic oceans. It's a pity that there are no exits to the Indian in your plans. And cool: I live in a country of ALL oceans! laughing Genghis Khans, Napoleons, Hitlers are petty ambitious amateurs .. laughing
      1. p0pulivox
        p0pulivox 26 February 2022 20: 03
        +1
        Yes, the commentator "Vladimir", as they say, cannot be held by the three of us, you see, he is next in line for the distribution of NATO. It must be so "methodically correct" to write ... winked
  21. SF127
    SF127 26 February 2022 10: 27
    +2
    hmm ... after the photo with the "caliber" hit, I stopped reading. Isn't it embarrassing to post fakes?
  22. Alien From
    Alien From 26 February 2022 10: 32
    +1
    Not the best story this time....
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 26 February 2022 10: 47
      +5
      Quote: Alien From
      Not the best story this time....

      Truth and reality are not always pleasing to the eye and amuses the soul. In fact, after them there are a lot of questions.
  23. sergo1914
    sergo1914 26 February 2022 10: 40
    +8
    With all my ambiguous attitude towards these “two from the casket, the same from the face” (Timokhin and Klimov), there is something sensible in the article. And there is a payment with lives for someone's shortcomings.
  24. rocket757
    rocket757 26 February 2022 10: 44
    +6
    Anything is useful to read, except for frank crap.
    You can disagree, criticize or support ... everyone draws his own conclusions.
    And so, war is a bad thing, by definition, in fact, but sometimes it doesn’t work out differently.
    We must be ready for anything!
    Alas, we live in such a world, not peaceful.
  25. S. Viktorovich
    S. Viktorovich 26 February 2022 10: 50
    +4
    History teaches that wars start easily but end hard (Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.). Especially in areas with hostile populations. If the first phase (demilitarization) is not completed in the near future and the Russian Federation does not withdraw its troops, Russia will face very difficult times. The second phase ("denazification") should be carried out for the most part by local actors and political means.
  26. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 26 February 2022 11: 01
    -5
    Well, of course, one Timokhin is the head, the rest is so .. Isn't it too early to draw conclusions after three days? And citizen Timokhin was at least once in combat conditions, set tasks at least as he pleased, was under fire ?? Yes, but when there were not and will not be ideal operations, there will be mistakes, and conclusions will be drawn, but not thanks to such Timokhins
  27. ont65
    ont65 26 February 2022 11: 02
    -4
    Judging by the beginning of the operation, it was not planned according to Soviet or American patterns. The author should not try, using conjectures (his own misunderstanding of the plans of the General Staff), to subject the information available on the network to a critical, but superficial analysis, a decent proportion of which is misinformation. For example, a photo of the facade of a house that Caliber allegedly hit with 400 kg. VV. After the work of Caliber, there would be no stumps left from the building, but here this disinformation is served as is. Not serious. The main thing is done. Air defense, warehouses, infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are almost zeroed everywhere and the Russian Aerospace Forces control the territory, up to single groups. Marching around, carrying out supplies will no longer work. High-tech air cover solves a lot of problems, including intelligence.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 26 February 2022 11: 06
      +1
      Quote: ont65
      photo of the facade of the house in which Caliber allegedly hit with 400 kg. VV. After the work of Caliber, there would be no stumps left from the building, but here this disinformation is served as is.

      It's all you messed up.
      This is a residential building in Kyiv, on which fragments of a downed Kalibr cruise missile fell. What hit her? Good question, the goal is very difficult.
      1. ont65
        ont65 27 February 2022 02: 30
        0
        I have already noted that the material is entirely based on conjectures and fakes, why would you need to confirm this again. In Ukraine, there are no and there were no means of combating Caliber, do not bother, everything was considered before the operation.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 27 February 2022 07: 18
          0
          Quote: ont65
          I have already noted that the material is entirely based on conjectures and fakes.

          You write exactly the same guesses and fakes.
      2. Angry
        Angry 27 February 2022 12: 13
        +2
        The Ukrainians themselves said on TV that it was their Buk that flew into that house. Not Caliber at all.
    2. victor50
      victor50 26 February 2022 12: 45
      -1
      Quote: ont65
      For example, a photo of the facade of a house that Caliber allegedly hit with 400 kg. VV.

      Downed Caliber. And the author has it. And he is alarmed that the caliber was shot down. And he asks the question: "What and how, if everything is suppressed?" And indicates that the caliber for air defense is not a simple target.
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 26 February 2022 12: 51
        +4
        Quote: victor50
        Quote: ont65
        For example, a photo of the facade of a house that Caliber allegedly hit with 400 kg. VV.

        Downed Caliber

        Not downed, here's the video:


        And it's not Caliber.

        You, before writing agitation, at least familiarize yourself with the subject, or something ...
        1. victor50
          victor50 26 February 2022 12: 56
          -7
          Quote: Repellent
          And it's not Caliber.

          You, before writing agitation, at least familiarize yourself with the subject, or something ...

          You're just talking empty talk here. Read what I wrote first. But you also had to stick the video. Not Caliber? So what? And where is the front of the house? into which this non-caliber falls. What did you want to say? That your video is the ultimate truth of something? What? And read about agitation at least in some dictionary before using words whose meaning you don’t understand.
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 26 February 2022 13: 06
            +1
            Quote: victor50
            You're just talking empty talk here.

            Tantrum satisfied.

            Quote: victor50
            Read first what I wrote

            Here it is:

            Quote: victor50
            Quote: ont65

            For example, a photo of the facade of a house that Caliber allegedly hit with 400 kg. VV.

            Downed Caliber

            Something is wrong?

            Quote: victor50
            And where is the front of the house? in which this non-caliber falls


            Good advice to you: take care of your nerves, they do not recover.
            1. victor50
              victor50 26 February 2022 13: 25
              0
              Quote: Repellent
              Quote: victor50
              You're just talking empty talk here.

              Tantrum satisfied.

              Quote: victor50
              Read first what I wrote

              Here it is:

              Quote: victor50
              Quote: ont65

              For example, a photo of the facade of a house that Caliber allegedly hit with 400 kg. VV.

              Downed Caliber

              Something is wrong?

              Quote: victor50
              And where is the front of the house? in which this non-caliber falls


              Good advice to you: take care of your nerves, they do not recover.

              Does your link have the same facade as the article? You are a liar.
              Everything else, including quotations from my texts, are tailored to this lie, shortened in a way that suits your purposes.
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 26 February 2022 13: 39
                0
                Quote: victor50
                Does your link have the same facade as the article?

                Absolutely. Follow the link and see for yourself.

                Quote: victor50
                You are a liar

                Not "we", but you.

                Quote: victor50
                Everything else, including quotes from my texts, are tailored to this lie, shortened in a way that suits your purposes.

                It is not true. Do not disgrace yourself, and do not spread fakes, and everything will be fine.
                1. victor50
                  victor50 26 February 2022 13: 46
                  -2
                  Quote: Repellent
                  It is not true. Do not disgrace yourself, and do not spread fakes, and everything will be fine.

                  You are spreading something, sedative. And you give it out as a rebuttal. True what? Something I didn't write about. I disputed somewhere that something got into some house, and it was not shot down? I'm talking about your video. It's you, disgrace yourself, citing some evidence of what no one argued with, without bothering to read either the article or the comments. Consider that you are right. the enemy was defeated, but to him, that is, to me. don't care about that. laughing hi
                  1. Repellent
                    Repellent 26 February 2022 13: 58
                    -1
                    Quote: victor50
                    I disputed somewhere that something got into some house, and it was not shot down? I'm talking about your video

                    So. We repeat the exercise. laughing

                    Quote: victor50
                    Quote: ont65

                    For example, a photo of the facade of a house that Caliber allegedly hit with 400 kg. VV.

                    Downed Caliber

                    Here is a photo:


                    I posted a video of the hit a little earlier. AND it's not a caliber.

                    Quote: victor50
                    I don't care about it

                    Your right.
          2. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 26 February 2022 13: 40
            +3
            The facade of the house, which the author published, is not caliber fragments.
            The rocket that hit the house in Kyiv is now all the more not a caliber
        2. timokhin-aa
          26 February 2022 14: 14
          0
          This is another case, a hit by a Ukrainian missile defense system in a high-rise building in Zhuliany, a day later.
          Stop spouting fakes.
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 26 February 2022 14: 20
            -2
            Quote: timokhin-aa
            This is a different case

            Let's say.

            Quote: timokhin-aa
            Stop spreading fakes

            Agree. Take a look at the picture, truthbearer wassat

  28. Dimy4
    Dimy4 26 February 2022 11: 17
    +1
    I'm not a military man, but! It is easy to criticize our troops, but when you consider that they have to work with almost surgical precision, picking out the enemy almost with tweezers to avoid civilian casualties. But the enemy just doesn’t disdain this and uses civilians for their own filthy purposes (I think instructors are known to everyone).
  29. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 26 February 2022 11: 23
    +8
    About collimator sights, which are not issued for the reason "no matter how broken" - if this is true, then you need to shoot. Moreover, both commanders, for whom the lives of fighters are worth less than the need to "unsubscribe" about broken property, and logistics supply officers who put combat officers in such conditions.
    If anyone thinks that this cannot be, then I will disappoint - it can. I know first-hand that in the 2008 war, for the first 3 days, the medical units of the group being introduced practically did not provide full-fledged assistance - they were stupidly not allowed to take narcotic analgesics outside the country, which ruled out the possibility of surgical operations, and even the wounded had to be anesthetized with analgin. How many lives of our wounded soldiers were lost - it is impossible to calculate in principle, but such were for sure. Three days later, the then Prime Minister (we remember who it was) ordered that legislation be laid down that did not provide for the possibility of such situations at all, and that they begin to supply the troops with promedol and fentanyl.
    I hope that at least the same rake was not stepped on this time.
  30. kakvastam
    kakvastam 26 February 2022 12: 17
    +5
    In all your forecasts and assessments, you should adhere to the hypothesis of the sanity of management. Of course, it's nice to think that clinical psychopaths are sitting "upstairs", unable to comprehend things that are clearly visible from the couch, but this is hardly an accurate reflection of reality. Yes, the vertical qualitatively distorts information, but not to the same extent.
    I strongly suspect that the leadership was fully aware of the problems in the army, and PR and all kinds of cartoons were an attempt to follow the precepts of Sun Tzu. That is precisely why Mr. Putin looked far from happy both at the meeting and during the well-known speech.
    Therefore, the question arises - what made people, by hook or by crook, trying to get away from decisive actions in the Donbass for eight years, suddenly take such a serious step. Yes, the operation was prepared, but after all, all the armies of the world always prepare them, and for all occasions they try to have several elaborate plans.
    Apparently, something happened that sharply increased the threat to the very existence of the country, since people took huge risks and guaranteed deterioration of their personal situation, at least in the medium term.
  31. GREG68
    GREG68 26 February 2022 13: 50
    +9
    The article is good. And Shoigu really has questions. I remember that last year, in an interview, he said that the level of the latest weapons in the Russian army exceeded 70%. Where are all this latest weapons now, Sergey Kozhugetovich? On the paper?
    1. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 26 February 2022 16: 51
      +8
      Kamaz 2007 release was changed to 2016. Reported on the latest technology. Those that in 2007 were transferred to other parts, where they also reported on the renewal of the park. Then you watch the news: KSF reported that the Northern Fleet is equipped with new models of weapons and military equipment by 86% .... I think: "How so? Ships ... Airplanes ... Everything is old ... Aaaa! (hand-face) I forgot KAMAZ trucks!"
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 February 2022 23: 47
      0
      Mounted protection kits for MTLB BMP BMD armored personnel carriers and KAZ for tanks - our Defense Ministry didn’t buy at all and didn’t bother with strike and kamikaze drones after 10 years - the result of all this indifference and saving on the face is to accurately destroy the enemy and his equipment in the city on In fact, our Ukraine has nothing to do - except to correct artillery fire from drones and the probability of hitting the target with conventional shells is zero, and to highlight the target with a laser from an UAV for guided artillery shells such as Centimeter Krasnopol and Smelchak learned only at the end of last year that such UAVs were not massive in there is no army at the moment - we are fighting the old fashioned way.
  32. tone
    tone 26 February 2022 14: 31
    +1
    So far, in our philistine opinion, we are losing the war. IMHO, our leaders thought we would hit the columns in a panic, the enemies flee and surrender. In fact, the defeat near Kharkov. And the landing party sent to death near Kyiv. Where are the vaunted VKS? where is the su-34? But they aren’t there because intelligence couldn’t open them for 8 years, and the General Staff couldn’t prepare for the destruction of air defense, so they’re pissing to fly? And where is the fleet attacking a small island? At least they helped along the shore with artillery, as in the domestic one. The fleet is gone. If they don’t take the big one now, unfortunately, Kyiv with blood in a week, such a small group will do nothing. We and the Britons will gather the Ukrainians and lead them on a counteroffensive. Then what is mobilization? Are we ready for this?
    1. Azis
      Azis 26 February 2022 19: 14
      -2
      Quote: tone
      Then what is mobilization? Are we ready for this?
      Not ready. The Pepsi generation, at the very least, was able to fight in Chechnya. After a large-scale reduction in military registration and enlistment offices, bringing the people to earn money by hook or by crook for a relatively normal existence, and especially after the formation of a generation of bloggers and tik-tokers, mobilization can only be forced.
  33. pilot_66
    pilot_66 26 February 2022 15: 03
    +9
    I'm talking about something else. We are asking for the info war. Then ... how can you raise patriotism in the anti-Soviet? them..I don't understand. We were going to do a good deed to clean up Ukraine from the Nazis and started with "Lenin is to blame for everything" what nonsense. Solovyov has the same zoo, one is cool, the Red Army took Ukraine, the other for Kornilov .., why ..
    1. pilot_66
      pilot_66 26 February 2022 15: 06
      +6
      I will add. Where is the army aviation? the third day of the operation and they are still hammering in Donetsk from hailstones ???
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 February 2022 23: 54
        -2
        He does not dare to fly in view of the presence of a large number of Zushek Tungusok Shilok and MANPADS in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and low-flying helicopters can be easily shot down from ATGMs and their dense crowding on flat terrain - even more so from Javelin.
  34. T.A.V.
    T.A.V. 26 February 2022 15: 44
    +2
    If our troops are ordered to act without looking back, using all means of destruction, the result will be natural, no "with difficulty", etc. will not. Our soldiers are loyal, within reasonable limits. But I have a question - if it happened that the Ukrainians would come to us, would they start talking to our military and persuade them to surrender? Would they talk to civilians? Or would there still be total terror?
    Start from the very beginning our soldiers a full-fledged operation, without any buts.
    The result is even more impressive.
    1. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 26 February 2022 17: 04
      -1
      If we had not come to them, in 10-20 years they would have come to us as part of NATO. The comrades at the top have a planning horizon of not a year or two, but 30-50. NATO has surrounded us from all sides for a reason. They do not need a strong Russia, they need a raw material base and markets. At the same time, China is the main enemy. We are being taken out of participation in the confrontation, creating points of tension on the border. The so-called "color revolutions". Therefore, with regret, I have to support the president's actions in this case. At least they won't wipe their feet on us. Yes, and Nazi mongrels s .... tired. Sanctions - reading about them, I think, who else would be attacked, so that more of these would be introduced? Abramovich was expelled from London, visas for Muscovites and officials to Europe were closed. We are here, in the outback, suffering together with Urgant))))
      1. T.A.V.
        T.A.V. 26 February 2022 17: 46
        0
        I agree on all 100%
  35. Setrac
    Setrac 26 February 2022 16: 04
    -5
    Why can't you put minuses on articles ????
  36. Wildcat
    Wildcat 26 February 2022 16: 17
    +3
    Good article. I did not expect from the author.

    Of course, we were incredibly lucky with Zelensky, who overslept the mobilization and with his songs about "there will be no war" helped a lot in disrupting Ukraine's preparations for war.

    But the most important thing in all this is that it is time for us to correct ourselves. PR can't kill.
    but most importantly, it is time for us to indicate what military and political goals we are pursuing. "Demilitarization" and "denazification" - this is the same PR. Catching Zelensky will not solve the problem. We can defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but then what? Kyiv 2022 like Grozny 1994? And then to Lvov? Or after Kyiv, which IMHO can be taken in the foreseeable future, do we hope for capitulation as in Berlin 1945?

    And what about occupying and supplying a military group in a country the size of France, but full of weapons - how? "From wheels", by trucks?

    We actually have experience when, after successful military operations, the police had to be assembled from regions in order to somehow control the territory with an unfriendly population, and this did not help much. And for Ukraine, which is larger in size (and where NATO will really throw weapons) we have security forces, will those very "boots on the ground" be enough? Or will we put one BMP / MLTB each in the form of a "post on the road"?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 February 2022 00: 05
      -6
      Most likely, we will recruit security officials in the amount of a million people to control Ukraine over the course of several years at home and on the spot from pro-Russian ones, but we will have to fight against ultranationalism in Ukraine for a long time, this is already a big cancerous tumor that has affected all spheres of life. You will have to create tens of thousands of special forces units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in order to clean the whole of Ukraine from weapons and nationalists - and you will have to carry out regular cleansing operations, the same as they were in Chechnya and are now in Dagestan. And the fact that Ukraine will become an analogue of Dagestan after 2000 is beyond doubt, considering how many there now local weapons and ammunition are issued to the right and left to the first comer.
    2. Yuri V.A
      Yuri V.A 27 February 2022 06: 47
      0
      Unfortunately, there will be no reformatting of Ukraine, and denazification will remain only a slogan. Judging by how the operation was carried out, it was supposed to clear Eastern Ukraine and by blocking the border cities, as well as with luck and Kyiv, to force the leadership of the Square to accept a neutral status. After all, Zelensky had only to hint about it, as the offensive was suspended.
      1. Wildcat
        Wildcat 27 February 2022 13: 48
        -1
        Judging by the fact that at the negotiations in Gomel (???) the delegation is headed by Medinsky - a) either no one wants negotiations and we see an operational pause; b) either all serious figures are "sick" and are waiting for the next events (DAM has abruptly become a leader).
        1. Yuri V.A
          Yuri V.A 27 February 2022 14: 20
          0
          A pause is not in our interests and the upcoming events are not rosy at all, it will no longer be possible to stun the enemy
          1. Wildcat
            Wildcat 27 February 2022 14: 33
            -3
            upcoming events are not rosy at all
            - yeah, and distant events loom like a rainbow from Skittles. If we take Kyiv, we lure Zelensky to Gomel for negotiations - and we will be happy.

            And about the pause - well, as if the equipment needs fuel, the BC needs to be brought up ... and all this by trucks for now. At VO there was an article on the topic "how to supply troops, trucks and railways" - that's all as "written".
            One should not forget about the "half-sea-composition" of personnel - when many last names end in "O", and from the Russian Federation there is news about "no losses, everything is fine, the enemy surrenders in regiments", - it is not easy to "pump" personnel.
  37. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 26 February 2022 16: 45
    -9
    Russia is not at war with Ukraine, but with a complete Banderland. The majority of the population of Ukraine was waiting for the arrival of the Russian army, as liberators - there are videos. The south, east and partly the center are Russian-speaking regions in which Russia has always been treated well.
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 26 February 2022 18: 59
      -2
      Quote: TermNachTER
      there are videos

      Yeah there is.
      But videos with shouts of "I hate" and / or "the bastards have come in large numbers" so far come across more often.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 26 February 2022 21: 38
        -3
        Chegoy didn’t see one, except for one drunk near Chernigov. But a lot of grateful
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 February 2022 00: 07
          +1
          And the crowd threw stones at ours - there is a video and look for a lot.
    2. Beregovic_1
      Beregovic_1 26 February 2022 19: 40
      0
      Read the correspondence on YouTube under the video of Ukrainian bloggers. It follows from the correspondence that we are not needed there, and many Russians support them. I think this is a miscalculation by the authorities. They do not have such a credibility to make such decisions without explanation to the population. Propagandists score 2.
  38. Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 26 February 2022 18: 49
    +5
    The author is our man, although I am not one of his fans. Growth above oneself is visible - quotations from the great German philosophy appeared. In the next article in a week I expect quotes from Clausewitz, Gneisenau and Machiavelli. It will be more useful than before from public speeches of military officials to the public and behind-the-scenes statements of managers from the defense industry. I read the article and all the comments. Not a single objection to constructive criticism! No one argues that more high-precision weapons are needed, and of course it’s better to fight with Ukraine on the new Kurganets than on the old BMP-1, and air defense along the entire western border is needed so that the OTR does not slip through ... Only the budget of the RF Ministry of Defense at 15 times less than in the States! Remember this while reading the following article from the author. soldier
  39. iouris
    iouris 26 February 2022 21: 09
    -2
    Russian war is always a surprise (like Russian winter).
    It is not "we" who are fighting, but the state. The fighting is carried out with the full exertion of the forces of the state. Then why is there confusion and vacillation in the rear? Those who were part of the front-line brigades were supposed to raise the spirit of the fighters carrying out the denazification, support the Nazis without fear and remorse.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 February 2022 00: 13
      -5
      Our losses over the past day are 2 tanks T 72-B3, B3M, 18 trucks, 1 BMD 2, 4 armored personnel carriers 80A, 6 MTLBs, possibly Su 25 shot down - the information is inaccurate.
  40. Wildcat
    Wildcat 26 February 2022 23: 41
    +2
    "Partners" from Germany gave up with "we only send helmets" and decided to act radically:
    The German authorities will send 1 anti-tank missiles and 500 Stingers to Ukraine to protect against Russian troops, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said on his Twitter.
    “The Russian invasion marks a turning point. It is our duty to do everything we can to support Ukraine in its defense against Putin's invading army. That is why we are supplying 1000 anti-tank guns and 500 Stinger missiles to our friends in Ukraine,” Scholz wrote.
    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/26/02/2022/621a6ce29a7947385146af6e?

    IMHO. everything is clear with the Stingers, but what is "anti-tank"? It is unlikely that Spike (I would really not want to), but it is possible. Rather, Milans and Panzerfausts 3.
  41. Alexey G
    Alexey G 26 February 2022 23: 55
    +1
    Thanks author! For Hegel and Steinmetz separately! One feels a deep understanding of the war on a philosophical, and not just a superficial philistine level! Special thanks for the caustic analysis!
    Although it is unpleasant from him and painful, but true! You need to write about this! I hope those who are taller and able to think will also read it!
    Of course, we all do not need PR, but business! Real deeds!
    1. iouris
      iouris 27 February 2022 18: 15
      0
      "Everything is Jomini, yes Jomini, but not a word about vodka."
      1. Alexey G
        Alexey G 27 February 2022 18: 37
        0
        It's true!!! But let's have a drink! Then, as Putin once said! Then after the victory over the Nazis we will drink !!!
  42. Illanatol
    Illanatol 27 February 2022 08: 56
    -3
    . In PR, we have "Zircons", in an offensive in a real war - "motorbike leagues". True, there are also infantry fighting vehicles, just not modernized.
    In PR, we have the Russian Aerospace Forces, in real life we ​​"ted" five missiles per airbase.

    And showed a lot more. And they didn’t show much, drones, for example, which we generally have, didn’t show.


    And they didn't show much...well, yes. And who immediately throws out all the trump cards at the beginning of the game?
    Moreover, the scenarios for the development of events can be very different. "Zircons" may also be needed, with a nuclear warhead.
    And against such an enemy, "motorcycle leagues" will do. For now, at least.
    And why strenuously destroy what will soon become yours or belong to future allies?
  43. Earnest
    Earnest 27 February 2022 13: 27
    +1
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Quote: AAG
    It seems that they announced about 20 helicopters attracted for landing? ... Just 200 fighters.
    Even 20 Mi-8AMTSh is up to 400 troops.
    And in RIA "Novosti" we are talking about
    More than 200 Russian helicopters were involved in the operation.
    I don’t think that 180 out of 200 helicopters were combat. hi

    We were up to 25 people with full equipment stuffed into the Mi-8
  44. Wildcat
    Wildcat 27 February 2022 13: 42
    +1
    "Partners" from Germany not only themselves tied up with "we only send helmets", but they also let others get loose:
    ""The government of the Netherlands will send [to Ukraine] 50 Panzerfaust-3 anti-tank grenade launchers and 400 rockets," the agency quotes a letter from the Dutch defense department to the country's Parliament.

    Earlier that day, Germany allowed the Netherlands to send 400 German-made anti-tank weapons to Ukraine, and Estonia also received permission to supply old GDR-made howitzers. Until that moment, Germany refused to supply Ukraine with lethal weapons itself and did not approve such deliveries through third countries. "
    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/13878835
  45. FVA
    FVA 27 February 2022 15: 25
    -3
    One word "invasion" made the article not read. Pisaka is trying in vain. One thing is clear, it is necessary to improve the professional training of L / S.
    1. timokhin-aa
      27 February 2022 19: 25
      +2
      What a nervous girl.
      1. Wildcat
        Wildcat 28 February 2022 10: 25
        +1
        I will support. Many of these "freshly created girls" began to walk around the forums. Looks like the production rates have been raised at the "bot farms"!
        1. timokhin-aa
          28 February 2022 15: 49
          +1
          Right now, our bots from Olgino will run here on the one hand, and ukrobots from some TsIPSO on the other, and the real Infernal Zoo will begin
  46. Wildcat
    Wildcat 27 February 2022 15: 56
    0
    And now the real "hellish sanctions" have begun (worse than Panzerfaust 3), part one: "The European Union intends to" paralyze "the assets of the Central Bank of Russia, said earlier the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen in a video message. A representative of the US administration told reporters that Washington expects that , having lost the support of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the Russian ruble "will break into free fall."
    https://ria.ru/20220227/finsistema-1775323515.html
    The fun starts on Monday.
  47. Wildcat
    Wildcat 27 February 2022 16: 29
    0
    Putin ordered the Ministry of Defense to transfer Russian forces to a special mode of combat duty
    https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/968758-putin-minoborony-sily-boevoe-dezhurstvo


    Well, soon there will be answers to my discussion in Linnik's articles on nuclear weapons.
    1. iouris
      iouris 27 February 2022 18: 16
      0
      This is the ultimate argument. There are no more trump cards in the deck.
      1. Wildcat
        Wildcat 27 February 2022 18: 39
        0
        Let's see how the concept of "escalate to de-escalate" works. ..or not working....
  48. acetophenone
    acetophenone 27 February 2022 19: 12
    -2
    In short, plan "A" (blitzkrieg) was covered with a pissing rag. I hope there is a plan "B" and it will work better. Because Russia can not be crap. Retreat further - nowhere. Our enemies (yes, enemies - not "partners" or "rivals" - stop lying!), So, they have where to retreat, they have a third of Europe with these mills. But we don't.
    1. Vovan
      Vovan 28 February 2022 07: 34
      0
      How much do they pay in Western countries these days? Enough for life?
  49. Vovan
    Vovan 28 February 2022 07: 32
    -1
    For commentators of all stripes, who, you see, tell about losses and problems, and other shortcomings, I recommend that you start using your head for its intended purpose.
    PS Very accurate
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cle7kJXGMcc
  50. Wildcat
    Wildcat 28 February 2022 10: 19
    0
    After Germany, Sweden also decided to participate in the supply of weapons, but somehow a larger party:
    ""Now Sweden offers direct support to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It includes 135 field rations, 5 helmets, 5 body armor and 5 anti-tank weapons," she said.
    On the same day, the State Council of Finland at an emergency meeting decided to allow Estonia to supply Kiev with 122-mm howitzers, Defense Minister Antti Kaikkonen told the Yle portal.
    https://www.interfax.ru/world/824998
    I wonder if it will be AT4 or Carl Gustav?

    The Statesmen say that we have not yet introduced the second echelon of troops, we'll see what happens ...