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Vladimir Vladimirovich, what's next?

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Everything that is happening around and near the republics of Donbass has become, perhaps, the center of attention not only for Russia, but for the whole of Europe.


Everything was forgotten: the pandemic, mortality, the fight against coronavirus, the Nord Stream 2 problem, everything. Main the news there were reports similar to reports from the line of confrontation between the republics of Donbass and Ukraine.

It didn't start yesterday


It all started back in November last year, when, simultaneously with the movements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, maneuvers of the Russian army near the Russian-Ukrainian border began near the demarcation line. Logical and regular.

At the same time, it was proposed to talk about the further expansion of NATO to the East. NATO rejected the proposals and continued to send cargo planes full of modern weapons to Ukrainian airfields.

This somewhat turned the heads of the servicemen of the Ukrainian army, who decided that with the help of the donated Javelins and Stingers, the Armed Forces of Ukraine would be able to solve any problems. The shelling of Donetsk began ... In general, this should be said both separately and in detail.

Communicating with my friends in this city, I want to say only one thing: they are used to it. For eight years, day after day, shells have been flying from one side to the other. The only question is how many of them flies. When 2-3 per day is tolerable. When it's more, it's stressful.

And throughout all these years we did not leave the topic. They gouged no worse than woodpeckers that the problem of Donbass needs to be solved. And gradually, shadow people without citizenship and the prospect of a normal life began to become first citizens of the republics (this is when the diplomas and documents of the LDNR began to be recognized in Russia), and then simply citizens of Russia.

It was really good progress.

And here is the confession.

"Minsk agreements"


In fact, how long could one talk with this soiled rag with the inscription "Minsk agreements"? Indeed, as Lavrov said at the now historic meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, no one was going to fulfill them.

Of all the points (13 in number), ONE was fulfilled: on the withdrawal of troops. Everything. Let me remind you that the Minsk agreements were signed in 2015. Seven years of nothing and nowhere. Indeed, it was time to do something like that.

All these seven years, slowly, overcoming the difficulties of the Russian state apparatus, Luhansk and Donetsk residents received citizenship of the country, whose leader promised help and protection in those years.

Help was. Protection too. Maybe, of course, someone will not like how it was implemented, but everything was. And they helped the Donbass in the way that they did not care about their own. But that's okay, it's in Russian.

And the Minsk ones ... Well, very convenient. Everyone is talking about them, but no one was going to do anything. Of those who should.
And then I want to repeat Lavrov's words at the same meeting. Yes, there are several conflicts in the world now, there are several zones where the situation is tense to the limit. But everywhere the parties are trying to somehow negotiate. And only Ukraine fundamentally did not make a dialogue with the republics of Donbass.

Yes, there were demands on Russia, which, in fact, had nothing to do with the Minsk process. But we regularly paid tribute to the West in the form of sanctions for not fulfilling the terms of these agreements.

It would seem, what is difficult? Special status? On the paper? Well, which is easier? They would have given it, but in a year they would have taken it away. Linguistic self-determination? Same. Amnesties? Yes, it’s not a question, then they would slowly catch whoever they need and hang them.

But the border with Russia would be on the Ukrainian castle.

But no, at first Poroshenko did not want to do anything, now Zelensky. Although the last movement near the borders frankly frightened. And he even in a conversation with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz promised that soon the Ukrainian authorities would submit draft laws on the special status of Donbass and the organization of local elections for discussion in the contact group. It happened on February 14 this year.

No, it is clear that they have been waiting for the promised three years, but then seven have passed. That is, in seven years, the President of Ukraine promised to submit documents that should have been ready by 2016.

And their execution is guaranteed by the year that way by 2050 at such a pace.

One can safely and confidently say that the Minsk format has become obsolete and the agreements that no one was going to fulfill were not worth the paper on which they were written. Yes, and they were signed by more than dubious (except for the leaders of the LPR and DPR at that time) in terms of capacity and responsibility of the person: two ambassadors and one former president.

And that's it, agreements are no longer agreements.

The situation began to escalate


The Armed Forces of Ukraine pulled all the forces they could to the line of demarcation. Mobilization was announced in the republics, Russia also arranged quite a decent party near the borders.

By the way, a very good move with the removal from the republics of those who could unwittingly suffer if the show would start. It is clear that everything was planned and organized in advance, plus agreed with the Russian side.

And the very process of "evacuation" to me, as a person who had watched the refugees of the 2014 model, liked today's picture a little more. If only that were the case at that time...

Well, Pasechnik and Pushilin's appeals to Putin regarding the need to recognize the republics. Establish friendly (God, as if there were options) relations and provide protection, including for Russian citizens.

On February 21, late in the evening, it became clear that they would recognize it. And so it happened.

Well, as a person who stands up for peace in the Donbass, I am quite satisfied. And I understand that the main thing after recognition is to help discourage the Armed Forces of Ukraine from shooting in the direction of Donetsk and Luhansk completely. To blue hands and heads.

It is clear that we will have more headaches. Donbass was not destroyed by us. The Ukrainians did it, but we and only we will have to restore the destroyed. This was clear and understandable to smart people back in 2014.

It is clear that the West will not leave this demarche just like that. Stoltenberg has already begun to carry such that one gets the impression that Psaki prepared texts for him. Okay, they were convicted in NATO - and God bless them, in the end, they chose this path themselves.

Tomorrow, many will think that if Russia begins to force peace in Ukraine in the Georgian style, NATO may intervene. It is doubtful, but we will discuss this option in the very near future. There are trained people who shared their thoughts.

I really hope that there will be no open conflict between Russia and Ukraine. No matter how they pushed Ukraine to this. In the end, the responsibility for what happened lies precisely on the Ukrainian side. The utterly dragged-out process of a peaceful settlement - is this not a crime against the inhabitants of the LDNR?

Reap your fruits now, gentlemen.

And this applies not only to the team of President Zelensky. This can also be addressed to Macron and Scholz, who did not particularly bother themselves with the work of the Normandy Four. So - do not be offended. Although the gentlemen have already stated how disappointed they are. But they indicated their readiness to “continue contacts”.

What's next


I, as a citizen of Russia, really want to look into the future. And I wonder how, first of all, our president looks there. I, by the definition of Vitali Klitschko, who said the now immortal phrase that “... today not everyone can watch tomorrow. Or rather, not only everyone can watch, not everyone can do it.

So I'm wondering what's next.

Russia recognized the republics of Donbass. Okay. In 2015 it would have been better, it would have saved hundreds if not thousands of lives. But yes, better late than never.

Then the question arises of how and at whose expense the infrastructure will be restored. Those who left for all these years, they are unlikely to rush back. Too much time has passed. Hence the inevitable shortage of workers. And money. Crimean version ...

Very serious questions. The attitude of the whole world (“brother” Serbian President Vučić has already spoken about how badly we did, we are waiting for the rest), lack of labor, lack of funds, lack of everything.

And a very sensitive issue: the protection of territories, which Pasechnik and Pushilin spoke about first of all.

Historical digression in the presentation of Putin in his evening address was very good. The president spoke about the past clearly and reasonably.

It would be absolutely wonderful if Vladimir Vladimirovich told us in the same style about the future of Russia and the republics of Donbass.

We are now entering a new stage in our lives. Since this whole operation was well planned and executed, it would be even better to know what is planned at the end of everything. What will be the total.

Congratulations to our friends from the Lugansk People's Republic and the Donetsk People's Republic on this wonderful event. And we express the hope that life in the republics will continue in a slightly different direction after this moment.
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  1. Login_Off
    Login_Off 22 February 2022 05: 13
    +5
    Can expand the controversy that Russia is preparing to attack the United States?

    Then quietly recognize the independence of Alaska, California, Texas laughing laughing laughing

    No?
    1. Momento
      Momento 22 February 2022 05: 15
      -76
      nothing more - it's a dead end.
      1. avia12005
        avia12005 22 February 2022 05: 20
        -2
        Well, well, of course, a dead end.
      2. Repellent
        Repellent 22 February 2022 05: 31
        +5
        Shy.

        Quote: Momento
        no one doubts that, if necessary, the LDNR would have appeared dug out nuclear bomb?

        laughing
        1. Civil
          Civil 22 February 2022 07: 15
          -34
          Vladimir Vladimirovich, what's next?

          1. Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a collector of the Russian Land.
          2. But the population of Russia, under the rule of GDP, will enter as the most worthless and cowardly, which:
          - At first, he was afraid of sanctions;
          - then shouted "hooool" when pensions were canceled;
          - then, in horror, they bought dollars before the recognition of the LDNR.
          3. The elite of the country will go down in history as the most comprador of all countries of the 3rd world, not participating in the life of the country at all.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 22 February 2022 07: 21
            -62
            Quote: Civil
            Vladimir Vladimirovich, what's next?

            1. Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a collector of the Russian Land.
            2. But the population of Russia, under the rule of GDP, will enter as the most worthless and cowardly, which:
            - At first, he was afraid of sanctions;
            - then shouted "hooool" when pensions were canceled;
            - then, in horror, they bought dollars before the recognition of the LDNR.
            3. The elite of the country will go down in history as the most comprador of all countries of the 3rd world, not participating in the life of the country at all.

            Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a man who spoiled relations with the whole world and lowered his population to the level of prosperity in Africa
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 22 February 2022 07: 28
              +59
              Quote: Pilat2009
              Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a man who spoiled relations with the whole world and lowered his population to the level of prosperity in Africa

              Anlo-Saxons are not the whole world yet. However, there were no relations with them (I mean normal in terms of the modern world) before. At the same time, there is one positive moment - the people of your plan, who were afraid of the wrath of the West, today show themselves in full measure in fear. I won’t talk about welfare, because you haven’t seen Africa, and your comparisons are pulled out of your nose. As Lavrov said - ".... the caravan is moving."
              1. karish
                karish 22 February 2022 08: 00
                -44
                Quote: Hagen
                Quote: Pilat2009
                Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a man who spoiled relations with the whole world and lowered his population to the level of prosperity in Africa

                Anlo-Saxons are not the whole world yet. However, there were no relations with them (I mean normal in terms of the modern world) before. At the same time, there is one positive moment - the people of your plan, who were afraid of the wrath of the West, today show themselves in full measure in fear. I won’t talk about welfare, because you haven’t seen Africa, and your comparisons are pulled out of your nose. As Lavrov said - ".... the caravan is moving."

                Of course, not all, but by the number of countries that have recognized the LDNR, it will be possible to understand whether only the Anglo-Saxons.
                By the way, on an excursion into history, about the commies and Lenin and how they squandered state-owned lands.
                Dad really sweated
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen 22 February 2022 09: 01
                  +53
                  Quote: karish
                  By the way, on an excursion into history, about the commies and Lenin and how they squandered state-owned lands.

                  Every phenomenon has its own reason. And what Lenin did, he did in a specific situation that you do not know. Like you don't know if it could have been done differently or not. Lenin is not a "fluffy white rabbit". At one time, having given away something small, he attracted into the Union something big that otherwise would not have entered. This must be understood. But not everyone wants. Lenin was a Personality, a lump. Both on practical organizational issues and political forecasting. No one after him did things of this magnitude and nearby, no matter how he was scolded. And we must not forget that he was a cosmopolitan revolutionary and therefore thought beyond the national framework. In any case, during the seventy years of Soviet power, she had plenty of time and opportunities to reshape the form of the state. But no one did. So it's not about Lenin. And about the "commies" .... What would you be if it were not for these "commies"? It would be better for you to take care of how your descendants will remember you ... Ingratitude towards your ancestors will not give birth to warm family feelings in your children.
                  1. karish
                    karish 22 February 2022 09: 31
                    -51
                    Quote: Hagen
                    Ingratitude towards your ancestors will not give birth to warm family feelings in your children.

                    Lenin is not my ancestor and thank God
                    1. PAUL 7
                      PAUL 7 22 February 2022 13: 41
                      +9
                      Exactly. not yours.
                    2. Sergey2809
                      Sergey2809 22 February 2022 19: 54
                      +5
                      Kerensky! I thought so.
                  2. gorgo
                    gorgo 22 February 2022 10: 34
                    -40
                    Gratitude? To those who made Russia a platform for social experiments? We are all still raking up what this comrade did with such a cute burr. Can we write down Trotsky as a hero? Should he be grateful too? Bolshevism existed for several decades, and then thanks more to Stalin and, oddly enough, the hardest war. As soon as the war was forgotten, the new generation abandoned all delusional ideology, and the communists sold the whole country en masse. All these Turchinovs and others are all former Komsomol members. Komsomol members, Karl! Is this not proof of what this whole ideology was worth? So there is no need to talk about the great leader of the proletariat. An insignificant psychopath who existed on German money.
                    1. Foul skeptic
                      Foul skeptic 22 February 2022 11: 27
                      +16
                      Is this not proof of what this whole ideology was worth?

                      No. As well as the presence of asocial elements who have undergone the rite of baptism, this is not proof of the inferiority of Christian teaching. Rather, it is a confirmation of the depravity of human nature.
                    2. Victorio
                      Victorio 22 February 2022 19: 17
                      +2
                      Quote: gorgo
                      Gratitude? To those who made Russia a platform for social experiments?

                      ===
                      who didn't? Ivan Vasilievich, Peter I, Joseph Vissarionovich? that's why the scale of personalities
                      1. Essex62
                        Essex62 22 February 2022 21: 01
                        +13
                        And I really liked the results of the experiment. Huckster to the nail, a working man is the master of life. Sotsialka and caring for people - "be healthy."
                      2. gorgo
                        gorgo 23 February 2022 10: 50
                        -2
                        Well, yes, master. I have one such acquaintance ... He worked as a bus driver during the scoop, then as an ambulance, also as a gas fitter, etc. The real worker is the master of life. He loves to remember how well he lived then. He just tells how he "gave sweets to the girls in the morning, drained the gasoline, put the bus into the sump, and played cards themselves." He also likes to flaunt, as he sent any boss. And in general, "if there is nothing to sleep at work, then why go there?"
                        And at the same time, in general, a good, our man ...
                        And the question is not in him, there are good and bad people everywhere and always. But that system was tailored for him, he felt great in it. It was, indeed, his country, his system. He really was the master of life. And at about that time, I remember, I was waiting for an hour for a bus to go to a law tutor. Sometimes, I didn’t wait .. Because the same master of life was playing cards somewhere at that time.
                        Actually, with such masters, it is not surprising that the country collapsed ...
                      3. Essex62
                        Essex62 23 February 2022 16: 15
                        +3
                        That's for sure, the rotten anti-intelligentian lived hard under our rule. Nothing, his rude hard worker, did not put it. And sending the head of the field is a pleasure. So it was conceived - the working class is the hegemon, everyone else serves its interests. Because, you can at least adapt a hundred, think of working hard on them so that everyone eats, lives in warmth in houses, moves in space, etc. he will be a hard worker. He is the main one, without him, no way, and you are a lawyer, secondary.
                    3. SASHA OLD
                      SASHA OLD 25 February 2022 21: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: gorgo
                      An insignificant psychopath who existed on German money.

                      what "German money"? that you are talking nonsense: this myth has long been refuted by historians and researchers. You also add about the fact that Kalashnikov "copied" his assault rifle with the StG44.
                      You have rotten porridge in your head
                  3. Pilat2009
                    Pilat2009 22 February 2022 11: 08
                    -17
                    Quote: Hagen
                    Quote: karish
                    By the way, on an excursion into history, about the commies and Lenin and how they squandered state-owned lands.

                    Every phenomenon has its own reason. And what Lenin did, he did in a specific situation that you do not know. Like you don't know if it could have been done differently or not. Lenin is not a "fluffy white rabbit". At one time, having given away something small, he attracted into the Union something big that otherwise would not have entered. This must be understood. But not everyone wants. Lenin was a Personality, a lump. Both on practical organizational issues and political forecasting. No one after him did things of this magnitude and nearby, no matter how he was scolded. And we must not forget that he was a cosmopolitan revolutionary and therefore thought beyond the national framework. In any case, during the seventy years of Soviet power, she had plenty of time and opportunities to reshape the form of the state. But no one did. So it's not about Lenin. And about the "commies" .... What would you be if it were not for these "commies"? It would be better for you to take care of how your descendants will remember you ... Ingratitude towards your ancestors will not give birth to warm family feelings in your children.

                    They redrawn it in the 90s, and very quickly. And this shows the unviability of the model. As a result, did our grandfathers shed blood for capitalism?
                    1. Hagen
                      Hagen 22 February 2022 11: 59
                      +22
                      Quote: Pilat2009
                      and this shows the unviability of the model.

                      The model was so viable that it withstood the Civil War and the Great Patriotic War, forming a whole system of countries. Here the heirs were not entirely suitable for the development of Lenin's teachings, unfortunately.
                      1. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 22 February 2022 12: 52
                        -15
                        Quote: Hagen
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        and this shows the unviability of the model.

                        The model was so viable that it withstood the Civil War and the Great Patriotic War, forming a whole system of countries. Here the heirs were not entirely suitable for the development of Lenin's teachings, unfortunately.

                        So this speaks of unviability. You try to change the social system in the USA, or in England. The same Russian Empire stood for 300 years, the Roman 1000.
                      2. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 22 February 2022 14: 13
                        +5
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        So this speaks of unviability. You try to change the social system in the USA, or in England. The same Russian Empire stood for 300 years, the Roman 1000

                        The fact of the matter is that everyone you are talking about has expanded. And now the situation on the planet is such that there is too much Humanity, if everyone is provided with a level of consumption cultivated by advertising. Russia, represented by the Soviet Union, began to run in the social model of joint survival, which was called Socialism or underdeveloped Communism. When society thought about how future generations would live.
                        Who is now thinking about the prospect of future generations??
                      3. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 22 February 2022 20: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        And now the situation on the planet is such that there is too much Mankind,

                        Are you talking about the planet? So do not care about it, we have a clear lack of population, and the current government, apart from the importation of migrants, has not come up with anything to increase the population. Somehow Margaret Thatcher's wishes come true.
                      4. Essex62
                        Essex62 22 February 2022 21: 18
                        -1
                        These migrants come from the territory of two empires. They did not come from Mars and not from Africa. Demographics, all "very civilized" peoples on Earth, out. Nothing can be done about it. Survival has ceased to depend on the number of workers in the family.
                      5. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 22 February 2022 21: 22
                        +3
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Are you talking about the planet? So fuck it

                        in general, I’m talking about children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren ... For reference: Catherine 2 often asked in order to push through some decisions - what would descendants say? or Winston Churchill said - a politician thinks about the next elections and a statesman about the next generations ...
                        so you're right - don't care about the planet laughing
                      6. ZeeD
                        ZeeD 23 February 2022 00: 07
                        0
                        Let's see how long the US will stand. She is less than the Russian Empire.
                      7. sniperino
                        sniperino 22 February 2022 22: 02
                        +2
                        Quote: Hagen
                        did our grandfathers shed blood for capitalism?
                        I don’t know about yours, but mine were shed not for the system, but for the Motherland. capitalist and socialist.
                      8. Hagen
                        Hagen 23 February 2022 00: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Quote: Hagen
                        did our grandfathers shed blood for capitalism?
                        I don’t know about yours, but mine were shed not for the system, but for the Motherland.

                        You wouldn’t attribute someone else’s to me ... I didn’t write the words designated as a quote ... request
                      9. sniperino
                        sniperino 23 February 2022 09: 32
                        +2
                        Quote: Hagen
                        You wouldn't attribute someone else's to me.
                        I apologize to you! Don't get mad, it's a bug. Happy holiday!
                    2. g1v2
                      g1v2 22 February 2022 15: 37
                      +10
                      And our great-grandfathers shed blood for the Russian Empire and ...? Do you propose to restore the monarchy? belay The unviability of the Soviet model was shown by the cold war it lost and the collapse of the country, assembled by tsars and emperors. WE HAVE LOST 40 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION AND A THIRD OF THE TERRITORY. The unified economy and industry was torn apart. We have not suffered a worse defeat. Communists ruled the country. There were no other parties, so the entire responsibility is on them. And what they were - correct or fake, the conversation is stupid. Those who destroyed the country went through the entire career path in the system. They were brought up by the system. They were supported by the lower, middle and upper levels of the Communist Party. And there was no protection against sabotage or a fool in the system. This is the verdict of the SYSTEM. Everything else is just excuses, and everyone has them like a hole in the ass. hi
                      1. Essex62
                        Essex62 22 February 2022 21: 24
                        +3
                        The system that exists on the principles of profit is perhaps more flexible and stable. Only it, for a very limited part of the People, is profitable and convenient. And disgustingly unfair, in essence. And you can decompose any people. Already in this system, if the Hodor clan had overwhelmed the wrestlers, and not vice versa, maybe Russia had already been divided into specific principalities.
                      2. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 22 February 2022 21: 29
                        0
                        Quote: g1v2
                        And there was no protection against sabotage or a fool in the system. This is the verdict of the SYSTEM. Everything else is just excuses.

                        I agree with you almost completely, but there is one thing. It seems to me that one should not confuse the economic system and the system of training and selection of a leader. The crisis of socialism is precisely the crisis of power.
                      3. sniperino
                        sniperino 22 February 2022 21: 40
                        +2
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        The crisis of socialism is precisely the crisis of power.
                        It is easy to pick up a superiority complex in the only party in power, and if it is also the mind, honor and conscience of the era ... Without an ironic attitude, megalomania threatens. And irony is hidden aggression, so the CPSU committed suicide.
                      4. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 22 February 2022 21: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        here the CPSU committed suicide

                        encouraged self-criticism, but did not stoop to self-punishment
                      5. sniperino
                        sniperino 22 February 2022 21: 52
                        +1
                        Quite right. Without Stalin's purges, the ruling party is ineffective.
                      6. Repellent
                        Repellent 22 February 2022 22: 05
                        +3
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        do not confuse the economic system and the system of training and selection of the leader

                        The "economic system" in a state is built precisely by those leaders who are "selected" by this state. If the state has problems with the "selection" of adequate leaders, this state is not viable. Where did I go wrong? wink
                      7. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 23 February 2022 08: 45
                        -2
                        Quote: Repellent
                        Where am I wrong?

                        I will say - the state is viable, but the system is not! In the Soviet government, as in the monkey herd, alpha males appeared who did not tolerate objections, establishing their own rules. The rituals of socialism for some time lived by inertia, and died ...
                      8. Essex62
                        Essex62 23 February 2022 16: 40
                        +1
                        Nothing like that. Degradation of a society that lives without problems and by inertia. Loss of meaning. Talking shop or real opposition to the nascent restoration? Everything was at the mercy of the punitive authorities, without control over them. The result is that they also decomposed and socialism ceased to defend itself. And even then we bent the alpha males, who was not indifferent to the fact that the country was heading towards the power of speculators and usurers. This, in the late 80s, was not seen only by a blind man, but most did not care.
                      9. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 24 February 2022 09: 50
                        0
                        Quote: Essex62
                        without control over them.

                        we're talking about the same thing...
                      10. Essex62
                        Essex62 24 February 2022 10: 39
                        +1
                        You are talking about the CPSU as a stagnant, non-self-cleaning system, and I am talking about the working class that has ceased to perform the functions of a cleaner. Moreover, it allowed openly bourgeois elements, traders and thieves, to penetrate the party. Ie, just hammering a bolt on the class struggle.
                      11. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 24 February 2022 14: 13
                        0
                        I see we have a rare understanding drinks
                      12. Michael HORNET
                        Michael HORNET 24 February 2022 21: 22
                        0
                        Monarchy is the only form of government in which there is a supervisory body OVER THE STATE. No other form of government has this. Therefore, everything immediately degenerates into the rule of the oligarchy. And the monarchy does not guarantee if the monarch is a nonentity. Like Nicholas 2. But the instrument of CONTROL OVER THE STATE itself is
                      13. Essex62
                        Essex62 25 February 2022 12: 25
                        0
                        These concepts themselves, monarchy and oligarchy, disappear with the correct approach to the problem of the victorious proletariat. As in Russia in the 20-50s of the last century.
                  4. Andrey Stavropolsky
                    Andrey Stavropolsky 22 February 2022 20: 43
                    -1
                    He was a nit, a goat that led the whole herd to the slaughterhouse. No other comparison comes to mind.
                    1. Hagen
                      Hagen 23 February 2022 00: 55
                      0
                      Quote: Andrey Stavropolsky
                      No other comparison comes to mind.

                      It's a problem with your head. If you want to discuss historical figures, study history. And you have only emotions instead of knowledge.
                2. vervolk
                  vervolk 23 February 2022 06: 48
                  -1
                  Old Man tried on the uniform of the Minister of Agriculture of the Republic of Ingushetia. and another question is what is better to be a big official in a big empire or a small president whom everyone wants to overthrow
              2. sniperino
                sniperino 22 February 2022 11: 33
                -1
                Quote: Hagen
                frightened by the wrath of the West, today they manifest themselves in fear to the fullest.
                The Nazis took a queue not at the military registration and enlistment offices, but at beauty parlors: to reduce tattoos with swastikas, etc., so as not to show themselves to the fullest.
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 22 February 2022 21: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: sniperino
                  to reduce tattoos with swastikas, etc.,

                  It's real? smile
                  1. sniperino
                    sniperino 22 February 2022 21: 32
                    +1
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    It's real?
                    Probably. smile
            2. Civil
              Civil 22 February 2022 08: 06
              -26
              Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a man who spoiled relations with the whole world

              These are their problems, they successfully solved their GDP.
              lowered its population to the level of prosperity of Africa

              The level can be lowered even lower, but I don’t see anyone dissatisfied with their position. Means - everyone is happy
            3. Nikifor Terskikh
              Nikifor Terskikh 22 February 2022 08: 10
              +4
              Abroad will help you, contact ;))
            4. Dart2027
              Dart2027 22 February 2022 08: 18
              +27
              Quote: Pilat2009
              spoiled relations with the whole world

              "If we are scolded by our enemies, then we are doing everything right."
              (Stalin)
              1. Boris Borisovich Skrynnik
                Boris Borisovich Skrynnik 23 February 2022 11: 52
                +1
                I agree with you one hundred percent of these dead docents! Since February 23 you!!!
            5. El Chuvachino
              El Chuvachino 22 February 2022 09: 49
              0
              Have you ever been to Africa? Yes, I lived for two years. Can you tell me how it is in Africa?
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 22 February 2022 12: 54
                -12
                Quote: El Chuvachino
                Have you ever been to Africa? Yes, I lived for two years. Can you tell me how it is in Africa?

                What country were you in? It’s clear that there are different standards of living, but some are already approaching us in terms of GDP
                1. A009
                  A009 23 February 2022 19: 11
                  0
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  Quote: El Chuvachino
                  Have you ever been to Africa? Yes, I lived for two years. Can you tell me how it is in Africa?

                  What country were you in? It’s clear that there are different standards of living, but some are already approaching us in terms of GDP

                  Give an example. A specific country and is approaching in terms of GDP, especially in terms of PPP
            6. bistrov.
              bistrov. 22 February 2022 10: 25
              0
              Quote: Pilat2009
              spoiled relations with the whole world

              No need to bend under the changing world, let it bend under us...
              Quote: Pilat2009
              lowered its population to the level of prosperity of Africa

              this is especially noticeable in the evenings - not only to park a car near the houses, you can’t walk from them to the entrance ...
              1. Foul skeptic
                Foul skeptic 22 February 2022 11: 40
                +12
                not only to park a car near the houses, you can’t walk from them to the entrance ...

                This picture is typical only for the new development of large cities. Near a 3-5-entrance 17-25-storey building of a budget category, it is impossible to get to the entrance, not because its residents ride in oil in a mortgage apartment, but because there is no space for a mortgage car physically around the house. Because after 20 meters, another such birdhouse is stuck. Because every square meter of land should bring maximum profit. Or are you starting from the premise that a car is a luxury and not a means of transportation?
                1. anykin
                  anykin 22 February 2022 13: 39
                  -12
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  Because after 20 meters, another such birdhouse is stuck. Because every square meter of land should bring maximum profit

                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  Or are you starting from the premise that a car is a luxury and not a means of transportation?

                  Wow! So now Africans are buying up housing and cars?
                  1. Foul skeptic
                    Foul skeptic 22 February 2022 13: 48
                    +9
                    Your
                    Wow! So now Africans are buying up housing and cars?

                    does it have anything to do with my comment? Do you disagree that the yards clogged with cars in the new quarters of big cities are the result of ignoring the discipline of "urban planning" in order to maximize profits? Then it is desirable to see the argumentation of your "disagreement".
                    1. anykin
                      anykin 22 February 2022 18: 37
                      0
                      Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                      does it have anything to do with my comment?

                      Did your previous comment have anything to do with
                      Quote: bistrov.
                      lowered its population to the level of prosperity of Africa

                      ?)
                2. bistrov.
                  bistrov. 22 February 2022 15: 45
                  -3
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  there is no physical space around the house for a mortgage car.

                  In such houses, each apartment has a parking space in the local area, there are even guest places. In addition, there is always a recreation area and a children's playground on the adjacent territory. Without these mandatory attributes, the house simply will not be accepted into operation. I don’t think that in our time a car is a luxury, if someone needs it, it’s elementary to buy it now. However, don’t forget that we have CAPITALISM and people live differently, who have a normal head, a good specialty and hands, or works a lot, usually lives in abundance, has an apartment, a country house, and more than one car, and who doesn’t want to study or work, but only lie on a sagging sofa and drink beer, unless, of course, there is something for it, and grumbles that they don’t appreciate him, therefore they pay little, he won’t have anything, that’s for sure ...
                  1. Foul skeptic
                    Foul skeptic 22 February 2022 16: 44
                    0
                    In such houses, each apartment has a parking space in the local area, there are even guest places. In addition, there is a recreation area and a children's playground on the adjacent territory.

                    laughing
              2. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 22 February 2022 15: 14
                -3
                Quote: bistrov.
                this is especially noticeable in the evenings - not only can you park a car near the houses, you can’t walk from them to the entrance ..

                You take a closer look at the cars. Most were bought in 2007-2014, when Crimea was not ours. How much has your salary increased since 2009?
                1. VORON538
                  VORON538 22 February 2022 15: 51
                  -5
                  For example, it has increased for me. And if you take it from 2009, then at times, but then, as it’s warming up, career growth. In 2013 I bought an apartment and stopped renting (and in our city now odnushki 25 k). -3 years ago .. And since 2014, the salary has been growing annually. Of course, not as much as we would like, but the salary is much higher than even the average (official) for the region. Everyone has it differently. business is covered, and someone turned around the other way around, and these people have nothing to do with power, there are already real achievements and failures. This is life. And you all rested against the Crimea. what, they say, that’s Crimea and blah blah blah. And prices didn’t grow before Crimea? In the early 2000s, my apartment cost 50000, then when I took it against the backdrop of falling prices due to rumors about the cosmodrome - 3000000, now more than 5 million. So why did the price rise significantly? As soon as people started earning, namely in the early 2000s, prices went up. And even now apartments are flying apart. hi
                2. bistrov.
                  bistrov. 22 February 2022 16: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  You take a closer look at the cars. Most were bought in 2007-2014, when the Crimea was not ours.

                  In 2021, Russian automobile plants produced 1 million 500 thousand cars, which is 10% more. than in 2020 and they were all sold out ...
                  And in 2013-14 they produced. 1,6 million, slightly more than last year, the peak of production was in 2012 1,95, since 2015 there has been a decrease to 1,25, now there is an increase in production. The reasons for the decline were different, I don’t think that this is somehow connected with a decrease in the well-being of the people ...
            7. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 22 February 2022 14: 38
              +9
              Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a man who spoiled relations with the whole world and lowered his population to the level of prosperity in Africa

              Under Gorby and Borka, of course, we had excellent relations with the world. Only, remembering those times, I want to swear. We are not a silver dollar to be loved by everyone. We don't like everyone either. Grind their teeth as we grit.
              Have you been to Africa? I was there, it's worse than here. Much.
              1. VORON538
                VORON538 22 February 2022 15: 53
                +5
                It all started with humpback, and under borisk we grew potatoes for hectares in order to take outbids from Yakutia and get dressed for school. Damn time. Although, someone liked it. .
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 22 February 2022 20: 31
                  -4
                  Quote: VORON538
                  Damn time. Although, someone liked it. My child now doesn’t even think about such a childhood that we had thanks to a drunk Boriska.

                  Well, well.
                  Quote: VORON538
                  It’s different for everyone. During this time, someone’s business has been covered, and someone has turned around on the contrary, and these people have nothing to do with power, there are already real achievements and failures. This is life.

                  Your words? Well, under Yolkin I lived better than under Putin.
                  1. datura23
                    datura23 23 February 2022 07: 19
                    +1
                    those who stole in the confusion of those years definitely lived better than under the "tyrant" Putin
            8. Journalist
              Journalist 22 February 2022 15: 10
              +1
              When was the last time you were in Africa? And in what specific part? Where are you only grown like that? fool
            9. Oleg Kievlyanin
              Oleg Kievlyanin 22 February 2022 16: 05
              +1
              Yes, you offer paws to the top and what for? Or do you have a solution to the problem?
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            1. sniperino
              sniperino 22 February 2022 11: 38
              +13
              Quote: vindigo
              With what hatred do Russians write about Donbas refugees in social networks
              If with hatred, then these are not Russians, but ykpobots.
              1. vindigo
                vindigo 22 February 2022 13: 48
                -8
                In the VKontakte group of my city, residents of my city write this. I'm sure of it. Look at the group "I love Novorossiysk". Yes, and in the Krasnodar and Sochi groups, the same howl is.
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          3. monah
            monah 22 February 2022 10: 57
            -7
            It's strange that the same people are minus you and the "saw 2009" which is minus you, it's wonderful like that!
            1. kig
              kig 22 February 2022 11: 02
              +4
              Quote: monah
              the same people downvote

              Is it possible to see who puts +/-?
            2. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 22 February 2022 12: 57
              -1
              Quote: monah
              It's strange that the same people are minus you and the "saw 2009" which is minus you, it's wonderful like that!

              In general, I rarely downvote, but I’m not going to yell at the TV either
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          4. Vadim237
            Vadim237 22 February 2022 12: 52
            -3
            And Russia is not a third world country. "The elite of the country will go down in history as the most comprador of all the countries of the 3rd world, not participating in the life of the country at all." You messed up with this. If the elite did not participate in life at all, then the country would not exist.
            1. Civil
              Civil 22 February 2022 13: 39
              +7
              Quote: Vadim237
              And Russia is not a third world country. "The elite of the country will go down in history as the most comprador of all the countries of the 3rd world, not participating in the life of the country at all." You messed up with this. If the elite did not participate in life at all, then the country would not exist.

              https://vpk-news.ru/articles/65874
              Here are your colleagues from a neighboring publication telling us about the help of the Russian oligarchs of the Russian Navy, with yachts) as we understand they do not owe Russia anything) so-so elite) oh yes, Mordashev bought himself a new hyperyacht, simply raising metal prices for Russians 3 times. .. and for the army too. After that, a bunch of military projects moved to the right hi You gentlemen, this is of course beneficial)
          5. pretzel
            pretzel 22 February 2022 16: 27
            +1
            I didn’t quite understand you buddy, what the hell
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 22 February 2022 07: 52
          0
          Here according to Freud. Maybe it’s time to dig out already :)))
      3. Shiva83483
        Shiva83483 22 February 2022 05: 50
        +9
        dear ... a dead end is your appearance in this world .... I would like to continue with the words of the Bayonet from DMB, but not so badly brought up ... unlike you ...
      4. Dante Alighieri
        Dante Alighieri 22 February 2022 07: 24
        +4
        Roman, thank you for your promptness. The questions are indeed well-posed. That's just a clear answer, I'm afraid we won't hear from them.

        For me personally, the most noteworthy thing was not the decision on the unrecognized republics, which had been suggested for a long time at least in some form, but how this decision was worked out and formed. In this vein, yesterday was, I’m not afraid of this word, a significant day, because for the first time we could see the process of developing a collegial decision by the Russian political and governing elite directly, which allows us to assess not only the nature of their interpersonal interaction and the unity of their value orientations, expressed in argumentation, but and the degree of awareness of each individual member, the level of personal initiative, and much, much more. And what value the meeting is for specialist profilers, who have probably already supplemented the psychological portraits of the meeting participants with new introductory ones, is not even worth explaining. However, let's leave the identification of a behavioral pattern to specialists in the field of cognitive analysis and note another point. Namely: practically none of the members of the Security Council gave a specific description of how this or that action (or inaction) on the issue of the People's Republics will affect the Russian Federation itself, its economy and the well-being of the population, limiting itself to the formula "sanctions will still be." At the same time, absolutely no one gave any forecasts either on the volume of future "material costs" or on the available opportunities to overcome them. However, there is nothing to talk about, even if the main issue has not been hypothetically considered - the real possibility of a direct conflict with the armed forces of Ukraine and the procedure in case of this. Such a number of unaccounted for factors gives rise to serious concerns about the capabilities of our managerial elite even in medium-term planning, once again demonstrating the situationality and reactivity of the ongoing foreign and domestic policy. I'm sorry, but this is not management and not even the notorious management, this is a player's bet in a casino, due to the absence of even minimal forecasting, with full reliance on chance. And that's the scariest thing.
        1. mitroha
          mitroha 22 February 2022 07: 56
          +21
          Do you really think that these issues, and the options for their solution, should have been brought out yesterday, and indeed on television in general? My condolences
          1. Dante Alighieri
            Dante Alighieri 22 February 2022 09: 18
            +5
            Well, they did not hesitate to bring their vision of historical processes to the audience
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 22 February 2022 08: 19
          +9
          Quote: Dante
          Such a number of unaccounted for factors gives rise to serious concerns about the capabilities of our managerial elite, even in medium-term planning, once again demonstrating the situationality

          you did NOT watch the meeting of the Security Council, and Mishustin said there:
          "We already For many months we have been preparing for a possible reaction to the recognition of the LPR and the DPR. I mean, first of all, import substitution and analysis of all risksthat we may encounter if we make such decisions. They, these risks, have already been worked out quite well, we understand the issues related to restricting, among other things, the import of high technologies and many other issues.”

          secondly: and would tell you the entire the ins and outs of both the expected sanctions and possible clashes (in a couple of days, a week) and what, would this somehow change a long overdue decision or your deliberately negative assessment?
          1. Dante Alighieri
            Dante Alighieri 22 February 2022 09: 46
            -4
            you did NOT watch the meeting of the Security Council

            I confess, I didn’t watch, I listened to him, but again, I didn’t take notes. What you quoted as a quote is certainly great, but sorry - these are general phrases aimed at reassuring the townsfolk. Personally, I am more satisfied not with a pacifying tone, but with dry specifics: if this and that happens, we will do the following in response (further down the list). For when you know what to prepare for, you sensibly assess the risks and your opportunities. Simply put, I need to understand whether it is worth stocking up on drugs for my elderly mother, without which she cannot exist, or interruptions in drug supply are still not foreseen. Everything else is parallel to me.
            secondly: would they tell you all the ins and outs of both the expected sanctions and possible clashes (in a couple of days, a week) and what, would this somehow change a long overdue decision or your deliberately negative assessment?

            There is such a word "motivation", including the motivation to wait out difficult times. I don't have a negative assessment of the decision itself. As I emphasized above, the decision is long overdue, even though it is clearly half-hearted and does not solve the problem of Ukraine as a hostilely oriented (after all secessions) entity.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 22 February 2022 12: 05
              0
              Quote: Dante
              Personally, I am more satisfied not with a pacifying tone, but with dry specifics: if this and that happens, we will do the following in response (further down the list).
              Come out to a demonstration demanding that all closed meetings in the General Staff and Security Council be broadcast live, they will support you, otherwise there is nothing to watch on TV.
          2. kig
            kig 22 February 2022 11: 06
            +2
            Quote: Olgovich
            We have been preparing for a possible reaction to the recognition of the LPR and DPR for many months now. I mean, first of all, import substitution and analysis of all risks

            something was not noticeable at all, there was no preparation for the situation "after the Crimea." We blocked the water - we pull the water conduit. We blocked the supply of gas turbine engines - we give the task to the Kolomna plant. They cut off power lines - we put power plants. We closed the message - we are building a bridge. That is, no proactive actions are visible.
            1. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 22 February 2022 16: 32
              -2
              something was not noticeable at all, there was no preparation for the situation "after the Crimea." We blocked the water - we pull the water conduit. We blocked the supply of gas turbine engines - we give the task to the Kolomna plant. They cut off power lines - we put power plants. We closed the message - we are building a bridge. That is, no proactive actions are visible.

              What year did we have to start preparing for the annexation of Crimea? Since 2000? And the Maidan in the last century had to be calculated? Well, there was no Nostradamus in our government. request Rarely are they born and even rarer do they get into governments.
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 22 February 2022 21: 38
                +1
                The grandmother on the bench could also calculate the seizure of power by the Westerners. Everything was clear already at the end of the 90s, at the beginning of the 00s, where the outskirts were heading. Only the grandmother had no opportunity to stop.
              2. kig
                kig 23 February 2022 03: 27
                0
                Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                What year do you start cooking?
                no, it was about like Munchausen: from 8 am to 10 am - a feat?
        3. raw174
          raw174 22 February 2022 09: 03
          +2
          Quote: Dante
          Such a number of unaccounted for factors gives rise to serious concerns about the capabilities of our managerial elite, even in medium-term planning, once again demonstrating the situationality and reactivity of the ongoing foreign and domestic policy

          I will not say exactly with whom, but yesterday this topic was discussed on TV with one of the senators. He clearly said that before making a decision, the authorities had worked out all possible scenarios for the development of events, up to a confrontation with the NATO bloc.
        4. tacet
          tacet 22 February 2022 11: 39
          +2
          Kirill, do you really think that a real meeting was broadcast yesterday? In my opinion, it was just a performance for the general public (the entire broadcast was waiting for the phrase from the GDP after the performances "Let's record!").
      5. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 22 February 2022 10: 11
        +5
        Quote: Momento
        nothing more - it's a dead end.
        This is the beginning of the end of Ukraine as a state. Crimea has never really been perceived as a part of Ukraine, so its departure towards Russia is not perceived as such, but the separation of Donbass and Luhansk (LPR) is already an indicator.
        As soon as Donbass begins to recover, Ukraine will crumble like a house of cards. This process can only be stopped by raising the standard of living of the inhabitants of Ukraine, for which there are no preconditions at all.
      6. Operator
        Operator 22 February 2022 11: 19
        -4
        Further for you the highest measure.
      7. aries2200
        aries2200 22 February 2022 13: 33
        +4
        then it’s Kharkov and Odessa regions ... a dead end is when we get to Lviv
      8. Joker62
        Joker62 22 February 2022 13: 34
        +1
        You yourself are a dead end on your whole head! Poorly studied the history of Russia, no matter what, tsarist, Bolshevik or liberal - the essence is the same, this is History!
      9. 210ox
        210ox 22 February 2022 13: 51
        0
        I'm sorry to you. That you hit the wall. And there is no way out. what в
      10. pretzel
        pretzel 22 February 2022 16: 42
        -1
        Is the glass half empty or full?
        it's not a dead end, it's a start
        1. Sheksnin
          Sheksnin 22 February 2022 21: 07
          +2
          Elementary.
          If they drank, then it is empty. If poured, then full.
          The rules of the Russian language and no philosophy.
      11. Wertgan
        Wertgan 22 February 2022 17: 58
        0
        People here don't understand it. They are infected with internationalism
      12. meandr51
        meandr51 23 February 2022 01: 51
        0
        Think stupid. In the previous dead end 7 years stuck. Russia is no stranger to...
      13. dmmyak40
        dmmyak40 23 February 2022 14: 37
        0
        Did you write a will? On whom? Specify Found, he will be pleased.
      14. A009
        A009 23 February 2022 19: 07
        0
        Quote: Momento
        nothing more - it's a dead end.

        Just for you - a dead end
      15. Alexey RU64
        Alexey RU64 24 February 2022 23: 35
        0
        I agree, they will imprison their next "pro-Russian" politician, give cheap gas and loans, and that's it.
    2. KCA
      KCA 22 February 2022 06: 54
      0
      Call Gazprom the successor of the Russian-American Company, find legal reasons and cancel the deal for the sale of Fort Ross, return the money in dollars, without adjusting for the inflation that has passed since then, they paid for Alaska in gold, but you can also scrape together, there are bins
      1. man
        man 22 February 2022 08: 33
        +2
        You stole my idea! Outrageous! laughing
    3. man
      man 22 February 2022 08: 23
      +2
      I propose to land troops in California led by Strelkov. It is high time to return Fort Ross, illegally captured by alien Anglo-Saxon bandits! California is Russian land!
      1. Tavrik
        Tavrik 22 February 2022 13: 41
        +5
        It is better to land in the Pskov region. And bring it in terms of well-being at least to the level of neighboring Estonia. Aren't you tired of "waving your sword"?
        1. datura23
          datura23 23 February 2022 07: 24
          +1
          in order to bring the Pskov region to the level of Estonia, it is necessary to reduce its population by half according to the Estonian scenario
      2. Terran ghost
        Terran ghost 22 February 2022 17: 29
        0
        And why are you personally so sure that you and your family will certainly be given a personal place in the government "doomsday bunker"?
        1. man
          man 22 February 2022 17: 55
          0
          Okay, persuaded, I'm canceling the landing!
        2. man
          man 22 February 2022 18: 03
          0
          Ah, that was a good plan! California is the richest state in America, we would finally overtake Portugal with it. Hollywood would be renamed Mosfilm ....
      3. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 23 February 2022 04: 00
        0
        Quote: mann
        I propose to land troops in California led by Strelkov

        So this reconstructive woodpecker will also gouge Chukotka to the heap am
        1. man
          man 23 February 2022 14: 04
          0
          That's it, I changed my mind about capturing California!!! She has too many defenders in VO.
          Can we at least take Texas? (timidly). The territory is decent, again oil. Just everything that we need.
          1. Dante Alighieri
            Dante Alighieri 23 February 2022 17: 31
            +1
            Can we at least take Texas? (timidly)

            Well, not there, the population has a lot of trunks, I don’t want to swindle from everyone I meet. California would be a great option if not for the abundance of gay people and the San Andreas Fault. Therefore, I propose to limit ourselves to the northwest: Seattle, Washington, Portland - Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming and Montana. There, the population is quite traditional, and the climate is familiar to us, and one of the largest livestock complexes on the continent.
            1. man
              man 23 February 2022 18: 01
              +1
              Sensibly, I agree. But I propose to add Florida to your list, you also need to rest.
              And at the same time grab Georgia, we will settle there those Georgians who want to join NATO.
    4. Vend
      Vend 22 February 2022 09: 21
      -1
      In 2015 it would have been better, it would have saved hundreds if not thousands of lives.

      The author, there is no need to substitute facts, in 2015 Donbass and Luhansk did not want to secede from Ukraine. They had only two requirements in 2014: federalization and Russian as the second state language. So in 2015 it was impossible to do this, many even then did not realize that they were being prepared for genocide. Now they realized it, but judging by the murder of Motorola, Givi, Zakharchenko, even then, not everyone realized it. Now the realization has come to the majority. Now we can admit. And mind you, recognize them as independent republics, and not part of the territory of Russia, as was the case with Crimea.
      1. KCA
        KCA 22 February 2022 13: 27
        +6
        So Crimea was also recognized as independent, and then, following the results of a referendum, the independent republic of Crimea joined Russia
        1. Vend
          Vend 24 February 2022 10: 07
          0
          Quote: KCA
          So Crimea was also recognized as independent, and then, following the results of a referendum, the independent republic of Crimea joined Russia

          Crimea was initially drawn to Russia.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 22 February 2022 20: 42
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        The author, there is no need to substitute facts, in 2015 Donbass and Luhansk did not want to secede from Ukraine. They had only two requirements in 2014: federalization and Russian as the second state language.

        Blatant lie. Do you really think that everyone here is sclerosis?
        Politics , May 12, 2014, 18:44
        Share
        Donetsk People's Republic asked to join Russia
        The authorities of the Donetsk People's Republic turned to the Russian authorities with a request to consider the possibility of accepting the DPR into the Russian Federation.

        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/12/05/2014/57041c919a794761c0ce9c67
        1. Vend
          Vend 24 February 2022 10: 09
          0
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: Wend
          The author, there is no need to substitute facts, in 2015 Donbass and Luhansk did not want to secede from Ukraine. They had only two requirements in 2014: federalization and Russian as the second state language.

          Blatant lie. Do you really think that everyone here is sclerosis?
          Politics , May 12, 2014, 18:44
          Share
          Donetsk People's Republic asked to join Russia
          The authorities of the Donetsk People's Republic turned to the Russian authorities with a request to consider the possibility of accepting the DPR into the Russian Federation.

          Read more at RBC:
          https://www.rbc.ru/politics/12/05/2014/57041c919a794761c0ce9c67

          https://donbass.name/3950-doneck-vydvinul-kievu.html а вы не РБК читайте
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    5. smart ass
      smart ass 22 February 2022 19: 04
      +3
      It was necessary to take the LPR and DPR together with the Crimea, everyone would have calmed down
      1. Vend
        Vend 24 February 2022 10: 10
        0
        Quote: Clever man
        It was necessary to take the LPR and DPR together with the Crimea, everyone would have calmed down

        You can pick up only those who want to, at that time it was different https://donbass.name/3950-doneck-vydvinul-kievu.html
    6. astepanov
      astepanov 24 February 2022 15: 54
      0
      Well, it became clear, "what's next." To be honest, I expected there to be very drastic moves after the very harsh tone in the president's speech, but I didn't expect the response to be THAT decisive. However, our "partners" demanded that Russia fulfill the Minsk agreements - and now they have been fulfilled by Russia on all counts. Wanted? Get it and do not hiss: you yourself forced it. Yes, and Zelensky did not mind.
      But here the same question arises: what next?
    7. boni592807
      boni592807 24 February 2022 16: 33
      0
      Vladimir Vladimirovich, what's next?

      Login_Off (And), February 22, 2022, 05:13, NEW - "...Can expand the controversy that Russia is preparing to attack the United States? Then quietly recognize the independence of Alaska, California, Texas. laughing laughing laughing No?

      "Admire" your "strategic" thinking" and fun belay

      Farther: belay
      1. I hope that the leadership of the Russian Federation has a clear understanding that the historical issue should be closed. Enough of the profanities - RI, USSR (and creating, among other things, a separate Oh, krajina), пthen allowing to turn ETA Oh, the country into Anti-Russia. It remained to wait for the appearance of nuclear weapons on it and then, as according to Chekhov (about a gun on the wall) = YaU. fool To the joyful applause of the "all-humans" of the collective West. bully
      2. The project of Poland, Austria-Hungary, Nazi Germany "Oh, Krajina and oh, Krajina" bully must go into oblivion. Otherwise, how, under the USSR, "NOT cleaned and NOT re-educated, forgiven" descendants of UNA-UNSO will sprout. GDP said about showing the experience of decommunization It is necessary to carry out. in the Republic of Ingushetia there was Little Russia and its inhabitants - Russians (Little ROSS). repeat We emphasize NOT small (NOT small), but one of the MAIN points of the future big RUSSIA - RI, USSR, RF (i.e. "small" Motherland - everyone has a house, street, settlement, formerly a province - now a subject of the Russian Federation , region...). wink
      3. It must be understood that even under the USSR, with the experience of the Second World War, this "problem" (UNA-UNSO, green brothers ...) metastasized in the then western Oh, Krayina for a decade. No. Now this "disease" has infected large areas and more people. Let's remember the story the most faithful and merciless were the Janissaries during the expansion of the Ottoman Empire am - boys stolen by force from families in the occupied territories, incl. Slavic. This means that people are NEEDED on the territory of the outgoing Oh, Krayina, the future Little Russia(personal opinion of the author), who will not be bought, will not be seduced. These are those who were spread rot, whose relatives were killed and burned by the Roguli and their pupils. wink
      Yes, and in the Russian Federation, there are partners of the Roguls, both according to the ideas of the UNA - UNSO, and in the "work" from ISIS(the basis of migrants and guest workers Compare Azzia, Caucasus- this is ML_NY people), to others more often while "sleeping"(The West and the hands of the Ukrainian Natsik drivers have more than once hinted at the transfer of the "war" to the territory of the Russian Federation). Those. TERROR, There have already been reports on the work of the FSB on such topics.
      4. GDP explained to the WEST that they can puff out their cheeks, but no MORE repeat . I hope that, whether Che...none of the local population of the WEST, incl. USA no desire to play the game "Who shat? Farewell!"(see the history of how many times the count of the WEST brought war to us - from the dogs to the knight, Napoleon, 1 MV, the occupying forces of the USA, Germany, France, England, Japan ...), 2 MV, now ....
      5. It’s time for the West, especially the CE EUROPAM, to realize, if you don’t put things in order on O, Krajina(By the way, they "started" the process of Ukrnazism in 2014 - directly France and Germany). then, urged on by the United States and the island of Anguila, the Roguli will "figure out" a FEW CHERNOBOLs on the territory of the current O, Krajina am . For the United States and the small shave, this is a "cleansing" of competitors (business ....) and a new Marshall plan (debt and bondage of Western and Eastern Europe). bully And Europe has huge traces of radioactive clouds with their (management) direct support. This is not counting the struggle of Europe with Russian gas (Brussels). As a result, the growth of impoverishment and rising prices in Europe. Yes, the United States will "help", not immediately and for VERY big money. crying
      Incl. WHAT'S NEXT!?
      The main thing is that the ERRORS of 2014; g. did not repeat. Without getting TROUBLE near the SIDE in 5-10 minutes of summer to Moscow, and bullets with mines reach our nearest settlements anyway. In the event of a REPEAT, exactly the United States and small brts, vigorous bases will be placed as close as possible to the Russian Federation and Belarus. bully
      And it would not be bad to stir up the real UNION state of Belarus, Little Russia and Russia. To start good wink
      Good luck to all of us and think less about the world community, but about YOURSELF and YOURSELF. hi
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 February 2022 05: 24
    +7
    Roman, when all the lands of the republics are liberated from the Ukrainian troops, it will be possible to revise the economy of the republics. What kind of enterprises are available, the state of their production capacities, the possibility of producing one or another product. And, with the right approach, people will return home on their own, the main thing for us is not to give our oligarchs the newly acquired land for looting, to ban "grabbing" in the republics! And, the main problem is a common problem with natural population decline, with high mortality. We will solve this problem, which means that we will solve all problems over time.
    1. MBRSS
      MBRSS 22 February 2022 05: 56
      +8
      the main thing is not to give our oligarchs the newly acquired line for looting, to prohibit in the republics "grabbing

      alas, they will give :(((
  3. just exp
    just exp 22 February 2022 05: 27
    0
    The Serbs did not seem to condemn (k @ kly from the correspondent searched for Serbian sources and did not find it). and if they oppose it, then this is normal, they have Kosovo and the recognition of even the Crimea is already a watered problem for them.
    IMHO, in a year, another LDNR, together with the left-bank ruin, will become part of the Russian Federation (hence the raising of the retirement age, they are preparing for the fact that dozens of lyam pence from the ruins will fall on the shoulders of our pension fund and so that no one blames the ruins for this, they did it in advance, just therefore, the dollar does not fall, although the price of oil and gas has risen, before if the price rose, then the exchange rate of the dollar fell, now not a fig... and the egg is filled, they are preparing for the fact that it is necessary again at the expense of Vanka Mikola to restore the land destroyed by Mykola).
    1. Shiva83483
      Shiva83483 22 February 2022 05: 55
      +14
      The Serbs have not condemned...yet. but the Jews have already announced that they will harness for the allies, from the country of mischievous astronauts ... so, I have a question: maybe it's time for us to fit in for the allies in the Middle East to the fullest ... remember our An, the attacks of the Syrian bases ... and in response to "ground" the flying "Ashkenazi" - so that others would be discouraged? ....
      1. Stomach
        Stomach 22 February 2022 05: 58
        -40
        Turkey decided to hit? There is something to remember. Let's immediately shoot a couple of volleys of hail in Voronezh so that the rest are afraid
        1. Shiva83483
          Shiva83483 22 February 2022 06: 02
          +15
          And you have Voronezh, what side is the dear one attached to the "Jerusalem aristocrats"? Based on your logic, not according to Voronezh, but along Lemberg then it’s worth gasping ... and not a couple of times ... but to a fraction of fine gravel, as in 1945 in Königsberg ... although the Turks would not hurt ....
        2. just exp
          just exp 22 February 2022 06: 03
          +10
          oh, so the daughters of the officers drew themselves.
          a real Crimean girl in lace panties...
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 22 February 2022 06: 15
            +3
            Only this one pretends to be a resident of the Kemerovo region :))) And yes.
            1. just exp
              just exp 22 February 2022 06: 52
              +3
              yes, these can pretend to be penguins if there is an article about Antarctica.
      2. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 22 February 2022 07: 05
        -11
        Quote: Shiva83483
        The Serbs have not condemned...yet. but the Jews have already announced that they will harness for the allies, from the country of mischievous astronauts ... so, I have a question: maybe it's time for us to fit in for the allies in the Middle East to the fullest ... remember our An, the attacks of the Syrian bases ... and in response to "ground" the flying "Ashkenazi" - so that others would be discouraged? ....

        Let's spoil relations with Israel
        1. Shiva83483
          Shiva83483 22 February 2022 07: 16
          +5
          Let's spoil relations with Israel
          And why is it immediately spoil relations with them? Everything according to their favorite talion principle ... we did not start
    2. just exp
      just exp 22 February 2022 06: 01
      +6
      “The tweets of the Presidents of the European Council and the European Commission Charles Michel and Ursula von der Leyen, as well as the head of EU diplomacy Josep Borrell are completely the same, they want to show unity. This is the gravity of our position: Serbia is on the European path, Serbia has always supported the integrity of Ukraine, and on the third hand, there are 85% of citizens who, no matter what happens, no matter what happens, will be on the side of Russia. And these are the facts that, as the president of the republic, I face,” the President of Serbia told TV Pink (quoted by TASS).
  4. sergo1914
    sergo1914 22 February 2022 05: 28
    +14
    Next is the move of the states. All these dances with tambourines of European bureaucrats and Macron with a German are about nothing. We are waiting for what the chief from the other side will do.
    1. uporov65
      uporov65 22 February 2022 11: 09
      +4
      I would also listen to the Chinese, whose side they will take at the UN Security Council
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 22 February 2022 05: 30
    +8
    I also join Roman's congratulations to the citizens of the LDNR ... now they have
    opportunity and real hope for a peaceful life, no one will take their lives with impunity and now they will not become victims of the Nazi genocide in Ukraine.
    To be honest, I did not expect that the GDP would decide on such a step as the recognition of the LDNR.
    He delayed so much time and finally decided under the pressure of threatening actions from the West ... he showed political will at the right time ... although belatedly ... but better now than never.
    History again took an unexpected and unpredictable turn ... what will happen next?
    I believe there will be a long and grueling butting process with the US and its allies.
    smile Not in their favor... time is playing against them here, they don't have endless resources for a war with Russia... sooner or later everything comes to an end.
    1. Crimean_2
      Crimean_2 22 February 2022 06: 23
      -32
      There will be no butts. For the people of Russia, a black streak will simply begin, right from today.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 22 February 2022 06: 47
        +8
        Do not lie... smile daughter of a Crimean officer.
      2. vitvit123
        vitvit123 22 February 2022 07: 43
        +8
        And after the Crimea, Abkhazia, etc., which band began?
      3. sniperino
        sniperino 22 February 2022 12: 51
        +2
        Quote: Crimean_2 (Eugene Balko)
        black line starts
        E. Balko, you are wrong: the band is brightening.
      4. meandr51
        meandr51 23 February 2022 01: 54
        0
        Vice versa. A white line will start.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 22 February 2022 07: 07
      -25
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      I also join Roman's congratulations to the citizens of the LDNR ... now they have
      opportunity and real hope for a peaceful life, no one will take their lives with impunity and now they will not become victims of the Nazi genocide in Ukraine.
      To be honest, I did not expect that the GDP would decide on such a step as the recognition of the LDNR.
      He delayed so much time and finally decided under the pressure of threatening actions from the West ... he showed political will at the right time ... although belatedly ... but better now than never.
      History again took an unexpected and unpredictable turn ... what will happen next?
      I believe there will be a long and grueling butting process with the US and its allies.
      smile Not in their favor... time is playing against them here, they don't have endless resources for a war with Russia... sooner or later everything comes to an end.

      It is Russia that does not have endless resources, and Ukraine will be supplied by all of Europe
      1. Shiva83483
        Shiva83483 22 February 2022 07: 20
        +12
        [quoteThis Russia does not have endless resources, and the whole of Europe will supply Ukraine] [/quote] I will not hesitate to ask, what will they supply? lace panties, or promises? If so, then I agree with you - the heirs of the "geyroreich" in this docks ... what is there
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 22 February 2022 14: 07
          +1
          Quote: Shiva83483
          I don’t hesitate to ask, what will they supply? lace panties, or promises?
          I can tell you how. Lace panties will need to be worked out first, and promises (any) are free.
      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 22 February 2022 07: 23
        +11
        Well, Hitler was also supplied by all of Europe ... did it help?
        1. Tavrik
          Tavrik 22 February 2022 13: 45
          0
          The example is not correct. For Hitler was against the USSR, the USA, Great Britain and a bunch of other not weak countries, such as Canada, Australia, India ....
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 23 February 2022 06: 00
            -2
            Your answer is wrong too...
            At the initial stage of the war, the most difficult for the USSR, there was no help from these countries.
            In the Battle of Moscow, Hitler was defeated solely by his own forces. hi
            1. Michael HORNET
              Michael HORNET 24 February 2022 21: 37
              0
              Lying is always bad and unworthy. Help has already been received, and, in general, it has played a really very significant role.
      3. viktortarianik
        viktortarianik 22 February 2022 08: 23
        +2
        They have already supplied, everyone saw what and how, I don’t wish this on anyone.
      4. Klingon
        Klingon 22 February 2022 09: 44
        +4
        No one will give them anything for free, everything is on credit or for the sale of land (chi glyny), the bourgeoisie will hang themselves but they will not give anything for free. You can amuse yourself as much as you like with the thought that having bought a juicer from an obsessive advertising agent, you received a teddy bear from him for free "as a gift", go and not in the house that you paid for a teddy bear with a nifiga you don't need but at three o'clock with a squeezed-in juicer? wassat
      5. Sergey M. Karasev
        Sergey M. Karasev 22 February 2022 16: 39
        +1
        and Ukraine will be supplied by all of Europe

        Europe needs them like a fish needs an umbrella.
      6. meandr51
        meandr51 23 February 2022 01: 55
        +1
        Directly supplied until now. The richest country in Eastern Europe...
  6. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 22 February 2022 05: 33
    -12
    Back in 2014, I had the feeling that we were driven into zugzwang.
    Any of our steps is beneficial only to our opponents.
    And now that feeling is only getting stronger.
    In general, sadness, sadness and hopelessness.

    Although, if you remember what the generation of my parents went through, then everything is not at all scary so far.
    1. just exp
      just exp 22 February 2022 05: 42
      +1
      if you hadn’t jumped on the maydaun, then no one would have driven you into zuzwang.
      and live a normal life
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 22 February 2022 06: 09
        -12
        Quote: just EXPL
        if you hadn’t jumped on the maydaun, then no one would have driven you into zuzwang.
        and live a normal life

        That's it.
        We rode somewhere in the kueva, and we are paying.
        For our Kremlin elders got involved in a fight with opponents of a obviously different weight category. And not even themselves. They were simply put in a position of hopelessness.
        1. Andrey Grad
          Andrey Grad 22 February 2022 08: 48
          +5
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          Quote: just EXPL
          if you hadn’t jumped on the maydaun, then no one would have driven you into zuzwang.
          and live a normal life

          That's it.
          We rode somewhere in the kueva, and we are paying.
          For our Kremlin elders got involved in a fight with opponents of a obviously different weight category. And not even themselves. They were simply put in a position of hopelessness.

          Here it is your new essence is no longer RUSSIAN, Russians.
          "We are paying..."
          Parmesan will not be brought and the West will look askance, what a nightmare.
          And millions of Russian people barely surviving for years under Nazi occupation are empty words for you.
          1. Jacket in stock
            Jacket in stock 22 February 2022 08: 58
            -7
            Quote: Andrey Grad
            millions of Russian people barely surviving for years under Nazi occupation are empty words for you.

            No, not empty. People are very sorry.
            But after all, "we will not abandon our own" somehow was not confirmed.
            Parmesan will not be brought and in the West they will look askance

            Yes, I do not care about the West, but the fact that I became 2 times poorer is really a nightmare.
            But the main nightmare is that our fluttering will not help us, we have already been appointed "whipping boys" and the only question is how long and how hard they will beat us. And it is not clear what they will do next, they will again decide that we have already been defeated and deign to allow us to take a place under the bench near the bucket, or for reliability this time they will kill us completely.
            1. kakvastam
              kakvastam 22 February 2022 13: 21
              +1
              We were "appointed" before our birth, so nothing has changed.
              And a terrible end is better than endless horror.
              I'm afraid of one thing, as if May and "yourself" would not follow February.
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 22 February 2022 13: 02
          -3
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          We rode somewhere in the kueva, and we are paying.
          Lvov? "What about us?!"
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 22 February 2022 05: 57
      0
      The jacket is in reserve - in fact, we were in a stalemate, because the desire to "please partners" was contrary to common sense and the real interests of Russia. If in 2014 the Kremlin had clearly decided to help the republics, and not to flirt with the West, we would have long ago, albeit in parts, through the creation of new republics, returned almost all of our lands back to ourselves, from the UK-Roin. Now we need to actively help in the creation of Kharkov, Kherson, and many other People's Republics, take them under guardianship, treat the population from nationalists, and integrate their still living production into our economy. To create a real single economic space! There will be enough business for a long time. The main thing is to act in the interests of your citizens, and not some kind of "partners", and prevent the oligarchs from going there, in order to avoid privatization !!!!
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 22 February 2022 13: 11
        -2
        Quote: Delusional
        If in 2014 the Kremlin had clearly decided to help the republics, and not to flirt with the West, we would have long ago ...
        Enough of your bullshit already.
    3. l7yzo
      l7yzo 22 February 2022 05: 57
      +10
      For me, the problem is that we live either in a great past or in an unclear future. And life in the present - so it seems to pass, because you are not in the present. Put the accents right and you will succeed)
      1. Dante Alighieri
        Dante Alighieri 22 February 2022 09: 51
        +6
        For me, the problem is that we live either in a great past or in an unclear future.

        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. You better not say good
    4. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 22 February 2022 06: 24
      +2
      The novel somehow frivolously described "how it could be done" with the republics. Immediately, for some reason, a bitter joke comes to mind that every taxi driver knows how to properly manage the country ...
      Personally, my vision is that the "galley rower" chose the least among the evils in the state of that zugwang into which he drove himself.
      Why?
      It was possible to recognize the republics even seven years ago, but he was playing "another game." And after the December, so-called "ultimatum", when all the Wishlist received a concrete "no", it was necessary to save the image and rating. Here, and so "by the way" the aggravation in the Donbass happened with a stir.
      If he had NOT recognized the LDNR, he would have completely lost his political face, even in the eyes of his fellow citizens.
      There were also options to send troops - but then "hellish sanctions" are automatically turned on. So it happened - out of three options (to recognize, not to recognize, to join), he chose political benefits for himself with an economic subsidence for the country.
      Those who write that the next move is for Bidon are right, and that improvements in living conditions and prices should not be expected ....
      1. man
        man 22 February 2022 08: 52
        +1
        you are reading my mind with a jacket ...
      2. p0pulivox
        p0pulivox 22 February 2022 19: 46
        +1
        In addition to the commentary (also a good attempt to quickly analyze the situation): Free Press (Mikhail Sinelnikov-Orishak)
        With the situation in the Donbass, official propaganda is frankly choking.
        The stupidest explanations why the metadata of the video messages of the heads of the DPR and LPR dated February 18 is February 16 (everyone can easily check by copying the file from the public domain). Recorded in advance in "premonition"? And the confusion with the explosion of either an “oil pipeline” or a “gas pipeline” in places where neither one nor the other simply exists.
        The sirens turned on for no reason with a hasty evacuation, although it would be more logical for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to “attack” after the Allied Resolve-2022 exercises, that is, after February 20. And not exactly to the previously announced “firing” of missiles on February 19, under the leadership of Putin himself. Why the ostentatious "haste" on February 18? By the way, did you observe the mask regime, did you provide vaccinations? After all, quite recently they entered the campaign - there is no beast more terrible than the “covid”.
        It’s better not to stutter at all about individual “political statements”: “if there is a threat to the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation and compatriots living in the DPR and LPR, our country will stand up for them.” Woke up, to "aggravation of Zelensky's aggression"? Previously, no “threat” was foreseen, did the February “exacerbation of Zelensky” take place?
        Washington Kiev, of course, "pushes", but what? To a guaranteed defeat of the “agent of influence” from a concentrated Russian group? To the delight of Moscow? Wait for the concentration of troops near the border in order to strike "by order"? Isn't it better to wait for "dispersal" and already after? As an Americanist, I know that I do not know the United States, but those who ignore the famous American pragmatism do not know this either.
  7. igorra
    igorra 22 February 2022 05: 41
    -9
    They didn’t recognize it - it’s bad, they recognized it - it’s also bad. Dear Roman, you already decide what our guarantor needs to do, but call him with instructions, otherwise he was again carried away to anti-Sovietism. I remembered Lenin with BONBA. Here Putin drew a fad, either envy, or an inferiority complex in relation to Lenin or Stalin. Well, not everyone can be great, for some it’s just enough to be a good ruler, to find fault with Lenin in the situation when he accepted Russia, which practically existed within several provinces, and it’s still not worth restoring its integrity, with a few exceptions. Or maybe age and understanding that it does not have time ...
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 22 February 2022 06: 28
      0
      Quote: igorra
      They didn’t recognize it - it’s bad, they recognized it - it’s also bad.

      Remember the statement of the communist deputy when he spoke about whose Crimea. Or the statements of the communists about the entry of ODBC troops into Kazakhstan. This article didn't surprise me at all.
  8. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 22 February 2022 05: 48
    +5
    The only thing to regret in the current situation is the lost time in the "Minsk agreements 1,2" and .... the ruined lives of people. In the Donbass, in Odessa, in Kiev, Kharkov, and other cities and villages of the "hohland". But to ask for these indecencies from the "organizers" and "performers" of this indecency, it is required in full .... and also for tomatoes
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 22 February 2022 14: 37
      -1
      and yes and no .. after all, in order to start kipezh, you need to prepare for it and in fact .. let's say in 2014 the LDNR would be recognized, then all of Ukraine would then tell how "evil Putin stole a wonderful European future" ..
  9. Stomach
    Stomach 22 February 2022 05: 51
    -21
    View in the future? What will happen next? Food prices will skyrocket, equipment prices will skyrocket, diesel prices will skyrocket. On TV they will show how generously planes of the Ministry of Emergency Situations fly to Donetsk with humanitarian aid, billions of rubles for the restoration of the republics (spoiler - they will not be restored, because the money will be plundered) and the president wipes away a tear of tenderness.
    For all the hardships and hardships that have fallen AGAIN on the population of the Russian Federation and at the expense of the Russians, the State Duma will say that the money went to the DPR, so you have to be patient, tighten your belts, and whoever is indignant is a contra and a fascist underachiever.
    Nothing good awaits me, a resident of the Kemerovo region, from this accession / recognition, everything will only get worse in my life, the life of my family and my child. But who will ask me?
    1. Shiva83483
      Shiva83483 22 February 2022 06: 05
      -1
      Yes ... my dear, are you such a pessimist from birth? Ali this well-acquired?
      1. Stomach
        Stomach 22 February 2022 06: 18
        -12
        Solar oil 63 each, milk 79, bread 27 rubles. Do you think it will get cheaper?) Is there a reason for optimism?
        1. Shiva83483
          Shiva83483 22 February 2022 06: 20
          0
          there is a reason for "optimism" usehda .... if this reason is not abused
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 22 February 2022 09: 34
          -2
          And in Japan, with our money, milk is 300 each, bread is more precisely its analogues for 200)))) Horror, right?)
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        3. Jura 27
          Jura 27 22 February 2022 17: 14
          +2
          Quote from Mave
          Solar oil 63 each, milk 79, bread 27 rubles. Do you think it will get cheaper?) Is there a reason for optimism?

          You live great! We have white bread in a discount store for 39, although a month ago, it was there for 30. I don’t remember that under Putinism something was cheaper. Buckwheat at 99, and before NG it was at 62.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 22 February 2022 17: 40
            -6
            So go to 404) there are a lot of work and prices are less? Or not?))))
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              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 23 February 2022 15: 23
                -1
                Are you telling me this to a Khabarovsk citizen?)))) Oops. There's a burger for 8 bucks.
                1. Jura 27
                  Jura 27 24 February 2022 08: 01
                  0
                  [quote = carstorm 11] Are you telling me this to a Khabarovsk citizen?)))) Oops. There's a burger for 8 bucks.[/quote
                  Therefore, I say that from Khabara to the Jeepons are closer. 8 bucks, is that a lot or a little?
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 24 February 2022 08: 03
                    0
                    Approximately 3 times more expensive. Prices in Japan are prohibitive for everything.
      2. VORON538
        VORON538 22 February 2022 06: 18
        +1
        There will be more than a dozen of them so fresh ... The case of the "officer's daughter from Crimea" does not fade away :)))
        1. Stomach
          Stomach 22 February 2022 06: 28
          -3
          Yes, at least write down in Ukrainians, your will. I don't see any benefit to joining. My personal opinion.
          1. unaha
            unaha 22 February 2022 09: 03
            0
            Quote from Mave
            Yes, at least write down in Ukrainians, your will. I don't see any benefit to joining. My personal opinion.

            This is the opinion of all sane people.
            1. kakvastam
              kakvastam 22 February 2022 13: 31
              0
              A goon is a sane person.
              It is necessary to correct Ozhegov's dictionary.
    2. Squelcher
      Squelcher 22 February 2022 06: 54
      -2
      You need to work with your head and hands, and not demand and whine.
    3. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 22 February 2022 10: 14
      +5
      you can endure for the sake of the life of 4 million Russians
      1. Wertgan
        Wertgan 22 February 2022 18: 09
        -1
        Only now they have their own nation. We recognized them as non-Russians
    4. meandr51
      meandr51 23 February 2022 01: 58
      -1
      Prices would skyrocket anyway. A month later. But it is always useful and pleasant to sleep.
  10. MBRSS
    MBRSS 22 February 2022 05: 54
    +2
    first of all, you need to turn on the means of electronic artillery reconnaissance and suppress any attempts to shell the LDNR. Then file a protest with the UN against the occupation of independent republics by Ukrainian troops, demand that the territories be transferred under the control of Donetsk and Luhansk. In general, play ahead of the curve, and the faster, the better. You can't stand still.
  11. nikvic46
    nikvic46 22 February 2022 06: 02
    +7
    I think it's too early to rejoice. Even when a man adopts children, all the difficulties are ahead of him. Even if no one bothers him. And the introduction of troops solves only one problem - to restore the infostructure. That's when the refugees who want to return settle down in their homeland, you can rejoice.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 22 February 2022 06: 03
    +8
    What's next
    and then along the thumb, as with Abkhazia and South Ossetia
    1. Third district
      Third district 22 February 2022 07: 37
      -4
      Quote: parusnik
      and then along the thumb, as with Abkhazia and South Ossetia

      That won't work. First of all, the main problem was solved there, the Georgian army and military infrastructure were defeated. And here , most likely , shelling will continue further .
  13. ivan2022
    ivan2022 22 February 2022 06: 12
    +3
    Then let Zelensky sell American weapons to whomever he wants and buy gas from Russia. And all will be well. But maybe first dump Zelensky himself on the USA? It's time to merge comrade ZE, it will be better for everyone. Further - - from a clean slate. Not too late.
  14. kig
    kig 22 February 2022 06: 22
    +1
    What's next ... the scenario has already been tested in 2014: the territory of a certain state, with our forceful support, declares independence, and then asks to become part of the Russian Federation. Type it is no longer part of this state. This is a general principle, and the details depend on the situation.
  15. Alex66
    Alex66 22 February 2022 06: 43
    -1
    It seems that the 5th phase of the establishment of a new world order has begun (the establishment of chaos and martial law), if this is not so, Russia will leave the WHO programs, cease to obey the IMF and the FRS. will return people 5 years of pensions, will start doing something for the citizens of their country. If there are no changes within the country, this is just a cover operation, a distraction.
    1. kig
      kig 22 February 2022 06: 49
      0
      Quote: Alex66
      will return people 5 years of pensions, will start doing something for the citizens of their country
      - your words would be yes to your own ears
    2. Third district
      Third district 22 February 2022 07: 45
      +5
      Quote: Alex66
      will return people 5 years of pensions, will start doing something for the citizens of their country

      I guess it was a joke. Then, in this vein, it is necessary to write that all industry and natural resources that the oligarchs obtained illegally will be nationalized.
      1. Alex66
        Alex66 22 February 2022 07: 50
        -3
        And how is he going to fight NATO without a mobilization economy? Or is it still not going to and it's just a SHOW while there are global changes all over the world. I am inclined to the second, no one will return anything to anyone, and nothing will be taken away from anyone.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 22 February 2022 08: 14
          +1
          Quote: Alex66
          And how is he going to fight NATO without a mobilization economy?
          And that NATO is going to fight with us? Biden in the know?
          1. Alex66
            Alex66 22 February 2022 08: 19
            +1
            And that NATO is going to fight with us? Biden in the know?
            Why was Naryshkin so worried, even Putin had to tell him.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 22 February 2022 08: 21
              -3
              Quote: Alex66
              Why was Naryshkin so worried

              Why is he leading the US?
              Quote: Dart2027
              Biden in the know?
      2. man
        man 22 February 2022 09: 10
        0
        Then, in this vein, it is necessary to write that all industry and natural resources that the oligarchs obtained illegally will be nationalized.
        and pensions will generally begin to be paid from birth laughing
        1. Third district
          Third district 22 February 2022 09: 56
          -4
          That is, you do not mind that 60% of the general welfare of Russia is in the hands of the oligarchs. yes
          1. man
            man 22 February 2022 13: 12
            0
            Frankly, I did not understand where you got it from? Where does such a conclusion come from?
    3. man
      man 22 February 2022 09: 07
      +1
      Russia will withdraw from the WHO programs, cease to be subordinate to the IMF and the Fed. will return people 5 years of pensions, will start doing something for the citizens of their country
      I love people with a sense of humor
  16. kig
    kig 22 February 2022 06: 48
    +9
    It seems that this citizen voluntarily or unwittingly revealed the real military secret
    1. KLV
      KLV 22 February 2022 08: 00
      -2
      And many "wise men" called and still call him a jester. And who's the joke now?
      I have always respected Volfovich. A very smart person!
  17. karish
    karish 22 February 2022 07: 03
    -7

    The historical digression presented by Putin in his evening address was very good. The president spoke about the past clearly and reasonably.

    It would be absolutely wonderful if Vladimir Vladimirovich told us in the same style about the future of Russia and the republics of Donbass.

    Putin remarkably told what the communists were and Lenin was bad - they made independent states out of Russia.
    Tearing off pieces from Russia.
    Excuse me, but what did he do? did he join the LDNR to Russia? Having returned to Russia what the communists gave away as a gift?
    no . he created 2 more quasi-independent states (along with Abkhazia and South Ossetia) that did not become Russia, but became like Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan, etc. - exactly what the communists did and the status of Russian citizens in the LDNR is no different from the status of any citizen Russia living abroad. Like Russians in Abkhazia. Transnistria or USA.
    Is this what the citizens of the LDNR wanted?
    Russians are second class.
    1. Wertgan
      Wertgan 22 February 2022 18: 12
      +1
      It's good that they recognized it within the current borders. We got a stalemate of a dead end, which will have to be solved by our descendants.
  18. Third district
    Third district 22 February 2022 07: 21
    +6
    digression in the presentation of Putin in his evening address was very good. The president spoke about the past clearly and reasonably.

    So much anti-Soviet stuff was said... The question arises, why was it necessary to remember Lenin and the Soviet power again? As if it was he who led to this situation, when in Russia, in Ukraine, the oligarchs are in charge. And first of all, the war is beneficial to them and not to the common people, it's as clear as daylight.
    1. minus
      minus 22 February 2022 07: 53
      +7
      I wrote my comment without seeing yours. Yes, in fact, 90 percent of what he said about Ukraine equally applies to Russia.
    2. man
      man 22 February 2022 09: 16
      +7
      So much anti-Soviet stuff was said... The question arises, why was it necessary to remember Lenin and the Soviet power again?
      it's class hatred
      1. tatra
        tatra 22 February 2022 09: 57
        -3
        This is all a consequence of the mentality of the enemies of the communists - their mental cowardice, monstrous irresponsibility, their mental propensity to slanderously accuse people of crimes.
  19. minus
    minus 22 February 2022 07: 51
    +4
    * The historical digression presented by Putin in his evening address was very good. The President spoke about the past clearly and reasonably. And only the USSR is to blame for him. And I'm out of business...
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 22 February 2022 08: 01
    +1
    I, as a citizen of Russia, really want to look into the future.
    But, as Klitschko logically put it ... not everyone can, although everyone wants to!
  21. Crimean_2
    Crimean_2 22 February 2022 08: 07
    -3
    Quote: vitvit123
    And after the Crimea, Abkhazia, etc., which band began?

    Serenkaya.
  22. steelmaker
    steelmaker 22 February 2022 08: 08
    -2
    Putin has a memory ..... like "an associate professor - I remember here, I don't remember here." I remembered about Lenin-Stalin, but I forgot about Humpbacked with EBN. He remembers about 1917, but forgot about 1991. And the difference is huge. In 1917, a new state was built, and in 1991. this state was destroyed! And if there are such problems with education, then we are in for big problems.
    The fact that the LDNR recognized this is correct, but it had to be done in 2015. Once you admit it, what are you waiting for? Is this a war with Ukraine, or does Putin, with his education, think that Zelensky will wipe himself out? But who will give him! It is necessary to smash the APU within a couple of days! There will be no world without this. To begin with, destroy aviation and air defense, restore the borders of the LDNR and issue an ultimatum to Ukraine. Russia has nothing to lose, we must go to the end!
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 22 February 2022 12: 40
      -1
      Did you listen here yesterday and did you wrap the fish there? And about the hunchback and about 91, he actually said something
  23. Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers
    Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers 22 February 2022 08: 11
    -2
    So I'm wondering what's next? ***
    ===
    What will be, will be: Russia is a besieged fortress, they don’t change “horses” at the crossing (cancellation of elections).
  24. U-58
    U-58 22 February 2022 08: 46
    +3
    Who cares, but I have a question: in what borders did we recognize these republics?
    1. igor67
      igor67 22 February 2022 11: 31
      -2
      Quote: U-58
      Who cares, but I have a question: in what borders did we recognize these republics?

      What does it mean in which, you listened to the speech, they no longer mentioned, as before, the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, it was all the time about the republics, and they are half the size of the region.
  25. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 22 February 2022 09: 01
    -3
    What's next? What, what kirdyk khokhlam. DPR and LPR will ask for help and our troops will be brought in. Ukrainians of course oppose, pogundosyat the UN and PACE. Everyone will support them "morally". They will try to shoot in our direction, the answer will instantly arrive exponentially, so that they will have to dig a new sea in the Carpathians, since they will be moved away from the Black Sea.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 22 February 2022 09: 35
      -1
      The positions of gun crews of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are placed in hospitals, schools, kindergartens. They and the LDNR would have been gouged a long time ago ... when they could. This is a delicate topic...
      1. tatarin1972
        tatarin1972 22 February 2022 09: 55
        +1
        Kamikaze drones. Expensive but effective.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 22 February 2022 10: 35
          -2
          Especially effective when exploding a shell box in a kindergarten ...
          1. tatarin1972
            tatarin1972 22 February 2022 14: 23
            0
            How is your head???? Would you take a child to the garden on the site of which a firing position is deployed?
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 22 February 2022 18: 06
              -1
              I have, unfortunately, with the head tolerable. I am really sorry. You just don't understand what human abomination is.
              1. tatarin1972
                tatarin1972 22 February 2022 19: 46
                +1
                I know I've been living for a long time.
  26. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 22 February 2022 09: 33
    -1
    As the Americans say, the million dollar question. I just read a seemingly good analysis ... with a few exceptions) Putin is an "elderly absent-minded hedonist" ?! Who responds to emerging problems situationally? Well, well ... In general, so far everything is unclear. First of all, it is not clear how the Anglo-Saxons and Europeans will react (not in words but in deeds), how the story with NATO will turn. Let's see what else we have left?
  27. Alsur
    Alsur 22 February 2022 09: 37
    +3
    Quote: Pilat2009
    Quote: Civil
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, what's next?

    1. Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a collector of the Russian Land.
    2. But the population of Russia, under the rule of GDP, will enter as the most worthless and cowardly, which:
    - At first, he was afraid of sanctions;
    - then shouted "hooool" when pensions were canceled;
    - then, in horror, they bought dollars before the recognition of the LDNR.
    3. The elite of the country will go down in history as the most comprador of all countries of the 3rd world, not participating in the life of the country at all.

    Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a man who spoiled relations with the whole world and lowered his population to the level of prosperity in Africa

    I understand everything, but you apparently have not been to Africa, since you are comparing the standard of living in Russia and in countries
    Africa. Previously, South Africa was knocked out of the general statistics, now no one is knocked out. The state of African countries from poverty and hunger to not rich countries (the Arab countries of Africa). You are not writing the truth.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 23 February 2022 04: 05
      +1
      Quote: ALSur
      The state of African countries from poverty and hunger to not rich countries (the Arab countries of Africa).

      Tell it in Botswana or Gabon
  28. Alsur
    Alsur 22 February 2022 09: 43
    -3
    Quote: Hagen
    Quote: karish
    By the way, on an excursion into history, about the commies and Lenin and how they squandered state-owned lands.

    Every phenomenon has its own reason. And what Lenin did, he did in a specific situation that you do not know. Like you don't know if it could have been done differently or not. Lenin is not a "fluffy white rabbit". At one time, having given away something small, he attracted into the Union something big that otherwise would not have entered. This must be understood. But not everyone wants. Lenin was a Personality, a lump. Both on practical organizational issues and political forecasting. No one after him did things of this magnitude and nearby, no matter how he was scolded. And we must not forget that he was a cosmopolitan revolutionary and therefore thought beyond the national framework. In any case, during the seventy years of Soviet power, she had plenty of time and opportunities to reshape the form of the state. But no one did. So it's not about Lenin. And about the "commies" .... What would you be if it were not for these "commies"? It would be better for you to take care of how your descendants will remember you ... Ingratitude towards your ancestors will not give birth to warm family feelings in your children.

    And what kind of situation forced Lenin to accept an obscene peace? You can't, don't take it. Or maybe Lenin himself considered the Republic of Ingushetia a prison of peoples, taking the position of the enemies of Russia, as the new liberals are doing now. Then it is clear why these cracks were laid in the Republic of Ingushetia on a national basis, in the form of national republics, which had never existed before.
    1. tatra
      tatra 22 February 2022 10: 04
      -5
      And why did YOUR anti-communist clique, after your capture of the USSR during your Perestroika, not continue to participate in the Afghan war and in the "cold war" with the West? And this is just about YOU.
      You can't, don't take

      You captured the RSFSR with great show-off "these scoops and commies did everything badly, wrongly, and we are so efficient." And 30 years after the capture in chorus, cowardly whine that you have "nothing to do" with the responsibility for your capture of the RSFSR, and for what you did to Russia and the Russian people.
  29. know
    know 22 February 2022 09: 53
    -1
    But what good is a "historical digression" if Putin did not say a word about the main culprit in the tragedy of Donbass and the entire Russian-speaking Ukraine, which is now being broken through the knee - about his beloved "daddy" Yeltsin?!
    And what's next is the main question. Donbass will remain divided? And the Bandera authorities will raise a new generation of local Nazis in Mariupol and other cities who hate their relatives in Donetsk and Luhansk? Will Bandera shelling of the unfortunate republics already recognized by Russia continue? There are already reports about what happened after the recognition of the independence of the LDNR:
    Ukrainian troops shelled six settlements during the night, a total of 58 mines, 10 grenades and 28 shells of another type were fired. In Donetsk, the Kirovsky district was shelled, a woman was injured. The LPR said that during the day on February 21, the ceasefire regime was violated 65 times, a local resident was wounded in one of the settlements.
    If this continues, Russia's reputation throughout the world will fall below the plinth. Or, after all, will there be harsh and revealing answers that will tremble the pissed-off APU-shnikov and punishers of the national battalions? And will there be support for the crushed and intimidated Russians of Kharkov, Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev?
    Here are the main questions. We should know the answers soon.
  30. Maks1995
    Maks1995 22 February 2022 10: 09
    -5
    Basically, not bad.
    News about the vague small offensives of Ukraine, without tanks and aircraft (5 houses damaged?), vague destruction of saboteurs (with 2 armored personnel carriers crossing the border?)
    And finally, recognition.

    Explicit information campaign, designed for its population.

    The output is also standard. Strengthening sanctions, confrontation, tension.
    The outflow and impoverishment of the population from the republics.
    Strengthening anti-Russian propaganda in the West.
    China does not recognize Belarus is questionable.
    Rising prices - perhaps all this was to distract from them.
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  32. Basarev
    Basarev 22 February 2022 10: 21
    -7
    It is clear that we will have more headaches. Donbass was not destroyed by us. The Ukrainians did it, but we and only we will have to restore the destroyed. This was clear and understandable to smart people back in 2014.

    From the very beginning it was clear that Donbass would go to the loser, not the winner. Just like Eastern Europe after World War II.
  33. tank64rus
    tank64rus 22 February 2022 10: 21
    -1
    If only we had an enemy West. The whole calculation was and now is on
    NGOs and Londoners, etc. Why didn't this happen before. Tell me, but our oligarchy is satisfied with this decision. Ordinary people are not afraid of sanctions; they have nothing to lose, but rich Pinocchio, yes. Yesterday, the behavior of GDP at a meeting of the Security Council was worthy of Comrade Stalin. Why, who did not understand, look again carefully.
  34. tank64rus
    tank64rus 22 February 2022 10: 36
    -5
    "At the same time, Jun did not speak in favor of the territorial integrity of Ukraine." But this is the most important thing, which explains a lot. Before doing this, the GDP prepared everything. All the cries about Western sanctions are now smearing some substance. Since 2014 the world has changed and is changing every year
    1. Wertgan
      Wertgan 22 February 2022 18: 14
      +1
      But he did not support separatism. Consider that China kept silent out of respect for Putin
  35. Wildcat
    Wildcat 22 February 2022 10: 43
    +1
    The good news is that the recognition of the LPR and the DPR will not yet be a reason for "hellish sanctions."

    "Unnamed sources" from the US leaked to the press that "hellish sanctions are for a full-scale invasion." So, IMHO, they will again begin to ban "the activities of individuals associated with ...".

    In general, the "partners" with their threats still look relatively safe.
  36. hermit
    hermit 22 February 2022 10: 50
    0
    Respected partners played Putin like the last sucker, throwing a tantrum about the inevitable invasion and threatening unimaginable sanctions. After Russia recognizes the republics, the US and NATO can do whatever they want in Ukraine. Russia has the only way to solve the Ukrainian problem - war. But Putin won't go for it. So everything that happened is a definite loss for Russia.
    1. Denis812
      Denis812 22 February 2022 11: 15
      +2
      No.
      The USA and their Padawans are ALREADY in Ukraine
      After the start of bargaining in December, a bunch of countries transferred their embassies and TROOPS across the Dnieper.
      And about the sanctions - don't care about them, and so they are introduced for everything.
      It is high time to say that these are not sanctions, but an economic war against Russia unleashed by the West.
    2. igor67
      igor67 22 February 2022 11: 36
      -1
      Quote: hermit
      Respected partners played Putin like the last sucker, throwing a tantrum about the inevitable invasion and threatening unimaginable sanctions. After Russia recognizes the republics, the US and NATO can do whatever they want in Ukraine. Russia has the only way to solve the Ukrainian problem - war. But Putin won't go for it. So everything that happened is a definite loss for Russia.

      Most likely you are right, as Putin said yesterday, that according to the constitution of Ukraine it cannot have foreign bases, now they will adopt an amendment, and the bases will no longer be in Poland or Romania, not in the Crimea, as everyone was scared, but in the Sumy Chernihiv regions, and this is already where - something 6000-700 km from Moscow,
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 23 February 2022 02: 04
        0
        There will be no bases in Ukraine. Or they will, but not for long. the Americans wanted to set up bases in the Crimea ...
    3. Wertgan
      Wertgan 22 February 2022 18: 16
      -1
      Now the only way out is to recognize the illegality of the process of secession of the republics from the USSR. The only one. Maybe this is the positive of this strange step (recognition)?
  37. Alsur
    Alsur 22 February 2022 10: 51
    +2
    Quote: tatra
    And why did YOUR anti-communist clique, after your capture of the USSR during your Perestroika, not continue to participate in the Afghan war and in the "cold war" with the West? And this is just about YOU.
    You can't, don't take

    You captured the RSFSR with great show-off "these scoops and commies did everything badly, wrongly, and we are so efficient." And 30 years after the capture in chorus, cowardly whine that you have "nothing to do" with the responsibility for your capture of the RSFSR, and for what you did to Russia and the Russian people.

    What is the capture of the RSFSR, what are you talking about? I, personally, live in Russia, like all other Russians, and I have not heard of any capture. Where do you live, since you write this, I don’t know. I only know about the illegal division of the USSR by the three leaders of the union republics, who do not have the authority to do so.
    You somehow express your thoughts more clearly, without slogans.
  38. kig
    kig 22 February 2022 11: 11
    -2
    Our President loves rough decisions. It would be more elegant to create a situation where the Ukrainian Duma would not object to the withdrawal and withdrawal of Crimea. And if it is necessary to save the population of Donbass, then it would be possible to take everyone who wants to to Russia, provide them with housing and work - all the more we constantly complain that we do not have enough population - and leave the destroyed industries to those who destroyed them.
  39. German
    German 22 February 2022 11: 15
    +1
    Quote: Hagen
    Quote: Pilat2009
    Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a man who spoiled relations with the whole world and lowered his population to the level of prosperity in Africa

    Anlo-Saxons are not the whole world yet. However, there were no relations with them (I mean normal in terms of the modern world) before. At the same time, there is one positive moment - the people of your plan, who were afraid of the wrath of the West, today show themselves in full measure in fear. I won’t talk about welfare, because you haven’t seen Africa, and your comparisons are pulled out of your nose. As Lavrov said - ".... the caravan is moving."

    Shake your hand!
    People of this kind think that "welfare" is the main thing in life. They will always be dissatisfied with their well-being. One of the sociological mysteries of Russia: at the beginning of the XNUMXs, the well-being of Russians grew at an enormous pace, but their attitude to power (including economic policy) did not improve, and in some periods even worsened. Western modern sociology fixes a direct relationship between the growth of real incomes of the population and a positive attitude towards power. In Russia, these laws do not work.
    There is, probably, in the depths of Russians a desire for justice, conscience and a desire for great goals. And it is not bought by "wealth growth"
  40. wow
    wow 22 February 2022 11: 16
    -1
    "...told us about the future...". Bolshevik comrades "talked about the future" a lot, so what? Comrades have done business and perished in the darkness of history.
  41. riwas
    riwas 22 February 2022 11: 20
    +1
    And now let's see. It is one thing to threaten Russia with "hellish" sanctions, and it is quite another to introduce them when they strike the economy of Europe and the United States itself.
  42. Adagka
    Adagka 22 February 2022 11: 54
    0
    and then the dollar at 100 and instead of 20 million 40 million beggars.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 23 February 2022 02: 06
      0
      You won't scare us with a dollar for 100. Was already. So what?
  43. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 22 February 2022 12: 01
    +1
    It would be absolutely wonderful if Vladimir Vladimirovich told us in the same style about the future of Russia and the republics of Donbass.

    Why lay out all the cards at once?
    Let's wait for now.
  44. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 22 February 2022 12: 28
    0
    Farce, disgrace and nausea. The non-systemic opposition is shocked by the recognition of the independence of the LDNR

    Liberals and non-systemists are shocked by the recognition of the independence of the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics. President Vladimir Putin signed the documents the night before.

    Lyubov Sobol called the situation a "farce and shame." Irina Fatyanova, ex-head of Navalny's headquarters in St. Petersburg, said the day was "hellish" and described the situation with the word "nausea."

    Mikhail Khodorkovsky began a "countdown" for the leader of Russia.

    Mundep Konstantin Jankauskas, who usually oversees major repairs in Zyuzino, also turned out to be a political expert and said that "Putin's speech is such a monstrous separation from what is happening inside our country."

    Mundepka Lusya Stein complained that she now needs psychological help.

    Political scientist Fyodor Krasheninnikov called the Security Council fascist and called the Russian parliament a “state fool” and an “upper tent.”

    The so-called oppositionists act as real opponents of our country.
    ------
    *- recognized as an extremist organization
  45. DmSol
    DmSol 22 February 2022 12: 58
    +4
    Decision is made. It remains only to continue to follow in the chosen direction. The fact that our power is far from monolithic was visible to the naked eye yesterday, especially against the background of Naryshkin. I would like to say to all the whiners on the basis of prices - Do you think that if we had not recognized the republic now, then there would be no new sanctions? One hell would be introduced. So there is no difference in this regard.
    The historical part of the speech, of course, is no good. But I live in this country and now we need to solve more important problems. And we will deal with the history in 10 years.
  46. Wildcat
    Wildcat 22 February 2022 13: 17
    +2
    There are different opinions on the topic "what's next"
    Here's what you need to listen to and watch in full:

    The list of speakers and presentations are very interesting.
  47. iouris
    iouris 22 February 2022 13: 25
    0
    The analyst must himself try to reveal the intention (if he is an analyst). And we (observers) will observe how the idea, strategy, plan, tactics are being implemented.
  48. Barberry25
    Barberry25 22 February 2022 14: 34
    -1
    Hmm .. I started reading and kept thinking .. Roman? Or not Roman? But no .. all the same, Roman, again there is nothing to tell, but with a specific argument about "even though it happened, it's bad" ..
  49. vvnab
    vvnab 22 February 2022 14: 49
    +3
    The historical digression presented by Putin in his evening address was very good.

    And what was good about him? He was ridiculous! Spanish shame!
    1. KERMET
      KERMET 22 February 2022 16: 33
      0
      Well, apparently it turned out well according to the 40 by 60 method bully
  50. Loh
    Loh 22 February 2022 15: 10
    -2
    Quote: Pilat2009
    Vladimir Vladimirovich will go down in history as a man who spoiled relations with the whole world and lowered his population to the level of prosperity in Africa

    [i][/i] Remembering the past life (I am 71 years old), and it was not bad at all, we have never lived so well. I mean the entire population. And in order to compare the level of well-being, you have to be there with what you are comparing. I've been... and many other places.