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Abrams tanks for the Polish army will be armed with depleted uranium KEW-A1 shells

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The US State Department issued a permit for the sale of weapons to Poland purchased by Warsaw tanks M1A2 Abrams SEPv3, including KEW-A1 rounds with a depleted uranium core.


On February 18, the United States approved a $6 billion deal for the acquisition by the Polish army of 250 American MBTs, taking into account the cost of ammunition, maintenance equipment, logistics and training costs. Among the types of projectiles purchased is the KEW-A1 with a shot that contains a core consisting of depleted uranium. It is believed that the KEW-A2000 developed in 1 is obsolete; at least, both the US Army (with a uranium core) and the Bundeswehr (with a tungsten core) are armed with other ammunition.

It is not known whether the KEW-A1 shells are capable of fighting MBTs protected by the new generation Relic-type reactive armor; whether they will be able to cope with the task of destroying a significant part of the tanks used in the combat formations of the RF Armed Forces. Therefore, this decision [to buy them] was met with criticism.

- indicated in the Polish edition of Defense24.

The negative reaction of Polish observers is reinforced by the ambiguous properties of KEW-A1. On the one hand, depleted uranium ammunition has higher combat characteristics than their tungsten-core counterparts. On the other hand, their use leads to radioactive contamination of the area. As indicated in the publication, this is confirmed by examples of the use of this type of projectiles, for example, the consequences of the 1991 Desert Storm operation in Iraq and the 1999 Allied Force operation in Yugoslavia.

Similar ammunition is in service with other countries - French OFL F2, British CHARM 3, Russian 3BM32. To date, the United States has created a new generation of uranium projectiles, in particular the M829A4 with a programmable detonation, designed to deal with tanks equipped with KAZ. At the same time, Germany relied on the development of shots with a tungsten core, resulting in a new generation of shells in the face of DM-53 and DM-63 / 63A1.

Against this background, Poland decided to purchase obsolete KEW-A1 ammunition, because only they can be delivered as soon as possible, and the first Abrams should appear as early as 2022.

- indicated in the publication.

As you can understand, the Polish author is neutral about the possibility of radioactive contamination of the area as a result of the use of KEW-A1 tanks. In his words, this is akin to placing artillery in populated areas by the enemy - you will either have to eliminate it with losses among civilians or reduce the risks to zero by not responding to enemy shelling.
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  1. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 20 February 2022 16: 09
    +8
    They think that their application will not be on their territory, but on someone else's, for example, in Ukraine. I think they will not be sorry to use them.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 20 February 2022 16: 13
      +3
      Quote: SKVichyakow
      I think they will not be sorry to use them.

      The same thought came up. But against whom? APU tankers?
      1. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 20 February 2022 16: 15
        +8
        I think against us, knowing their love for us.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 20 February 2022 16: 18
          +1
          Quote: SKVichyakow
          I think against us, knowing their love for us.

          And at the same time, they seriously imagine that nothing will fly across the territory of Poland in response? Although sincere bewilderment like: "What are we for?" - I think not only the most ancient is characteristic.
          1. SKVichyakow
            SKVichyakow 20 February 2022 16: 26
            +2
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Quote: SKVichyakow
            I think against us, knowing their love for us.

            And at the same time, they seriously imagine that nothing will fly across the territory of Poland in response? Although sincere bewilderment like: "What are we for?" - I think not only the most ancient is characteristic.

            They usually think about this when they have already arrived. So as you described: what about meni?
          2. dorz
            dorz 20 February 2022 17: 59
            +4
            Shells, shells, but the Poles will receive 250 modern tanks for them.
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 21 February 2022 00: 06
              0
              Quote: dorz
              Shells-shells, but the Poles get to them 250 modern tanks.

              More precisely, they will not receive a gift, but they will purchase for a lot of bucks:
              On February 18, the United States approved the deal for $ 6 billion for the acquisition by the Polish army of 250 American MBTs, taking into account the cost of ammunition, maintenance equipment, logistics and training costs.

              This almost coincides with Poland's annual budget deficit for 2022:
              state revenues will amount to 481 billion zlotys (more than 100 billion euros), and expenses - 512 billion zlotys (more than 110 billion euros). The maximum deficit should be PLN 30,9 billion (more than EUR 6,5 billion). Economic growth next year, according to government forecasts, should be 4,6%, and public debt - 56,6%.


              Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3454542.html


              The budget was passed by 230 votes to 222, so not everyone likes it there. hi
        2. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 20 February 2022 16: 34
          +2
          All these Polish "uraza great Poland" end with the defeat of Poland and the division of its territories. History is a stubborn thing. Poland is the same expendable material for the EU as Ukraine. Everyone always "supports" them, but then immediately, they betray them.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 20 February 2022 17: 21
      -1
      Quote: SKVichyakow
      They think that their application will not be on their territory, but on someone else's, for example, in Ukraine.

      Give them "on the drum." In fact, this is the disposal of nuclear waste on foreign territory, and even for other people's money.
      1. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 20 February 2022 17: 25
        -1
        Alexander. We are not talking about the USA, we are talking about the Poles.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 20 February 2022 17: 33
          -1
          So the striped do not ask for Poles or other small things.
          All applications / requests for the purchase or re-delivery of military equipment are not independent, but come after hidden kicks from the states themselves. hi
          1. SKVichyakow
            SKVichyakow 20 February 2022 18: 36
            0
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            So the striped do not ask for Poles or other small things.
            All applications / requests for the purchase or re-delivery of military equipment are not independent, but come after hidden kicks from the states themselves. hi

            That's right, but off topic.
    3. 3danimal
      3danimal 24 June 2022 02: 36
      0
      Remembering not so long ago their staff exercises on the topic of defense against the advancing Russian army, they are still going to apply on their own land.
      Yes, some infection (its scale is greatly exaggerated), but the efficiency is 15-20% higher compared to tungsten.
      Strongly outnumbered, they want to compensate to some extent with the quality of weapons and ammunition.
  2. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 20 February 2022 16: 10
    -4
    "tank battles" in the minds of debioloids... I think. and "izvarino" is unlikely to happen again.
    1. Third district
      Third district 20 February 2022 16: 18
      +6
      Quote: Aerodrome
      .. I think. and "izvarino" is unlikely to happen again.

      We were told back in the 80s that if there was a war, it would be high-tech and not like in 1941. But in 2014, the same thing happened, only with minor modern amendments.
  3. Alien From
    Alien From 20 February 2022 16: 10
    -2
    With such Russophobia, panama should think about the existence of their country as a whole.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 February 2022 16: 13
      +2
      Quote: Alien From
      With such Russophobia, panama should think about the existence of their country as a whole.

      If since 1772 there have been three partitions of Poland, then after the fourth partition, there will never be a fifth.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 20 February 2022 18: 37
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine

        If since 1772 there have been three partitions of Poland, then after the fourth partition, there will never be a fifth.
        The first partition of Poland February 19, 1772
        Second Partition of Poland January 23, 1793
        The third partition of Poland October 24, 1795
        Fourth Partition of Poland September 1939
        hi
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 20 February 2022 21: 13
          0
          Quote: cat Rusich
          Fourth Partition of Poland September 1939

          I don’t even know what to call it, here in 1939 they passed like a steam boiler, and Poland disappeared from the world map. Although not a section, but the 4th crash was for sure. But the science was in vain.
        2. Kushka
          Kushka 20 February 2022 23: 39
          -2
          But nothing that all these four sections
          ...... so NOTHING was given. Poland as it was
          So is Poland. Yes, and with the Abrams and the F-35.
          Moreover, with hundreds of kilometers of the Baltic coast and
          territory, which she never dreamed of, thanks to the temporary detention center.
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 21 February 2022 00: 09
            0
            Quote: Kushka
            But nothing that all these four sections
            ...... so NOTHING was given. Poland as it was
            So is Poland. Yes, and with the Abrams and the F-35.
            Moreover, with hundreds of kilometers of the Baltic coast and
            territory, which she never dreamed of, thanks to the temporary detention center.
            You tell the first Pole you meet about this.
            hi
            1. Kushka
              Kushka 21 February 2022 00: 41
              0
              I won't be able to anymore. This is me in 1973 in their Pigmouth
              brought. I walked there a little, as much as I got on the Polish lip
              (personally, our commandant of this city swept up). So old
              a Polish couple stopped us in the park and led us with a finger
              spelled on a peakless cap, we communicated with them in this way.
              And now I'm a walker only to the pharmacy.
            2. Kushka
              Kushka 21 February 2022 00: 50
              0
              Marines from Baltiysk to KFOR we brought there
              for the exercises of the VD countries
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 February 2022 20: 47
      +2
      Quote: Alien From
      With such Russophobia, panama should think about the existence of their country as a whole.

      The descendants of the Sumerians do not agree with you and with me.
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 20 February 2022 20: 49
        +1
        Dog with them! Enough birches for everyone!drinks
  4. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 20 February 2022 16: 10
    -2
    It is not known whether the KEW-A1 shells are capable of fighting MBTs protected by the new generation Relic-type reactive armor; whether they will be able to cope with the task of destroying a significant part of the tanks used in the combat formations of the RF Armed Forces. Therefore, this decision [to buy them] was met with criticism.
    A very interesting statement about whether or not KEW-A1 shells equipped with depleted uranium will cope with Russian tanks, but I know for sure that "Caliber" with "non-depleted uranium" will burn Polish tanks without a doubt.
    1. Bradley
      Bradley 20 February 2022 16: 28
      -5
      A very interesting statement about whether or not KEW-A1 shells equipped with depleted uranium will cope with Russian tanks, but I know for sure that "Caliber" with "non-depleted uranium" will burn Polish tanks without a doubt.

      What are you, take more - Yarsom for Toyota broads! laughing
      And you know what, you can also eliminate some leaders with the Tsar Bomb!
      Think big! "Caliber" on tanks - very small!
      1. Atlas
        Atlas 20 February 2022 21: 03
        0
        not by tanks, but by places of accumulation and parking
  5. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 20 February 2022 16: 11
    -3
    Well, who would doubt that it will be shoved somewhere. But dragging these sheds to our theater of operations is another solution ...
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 February 2022 16: 12
    +9
    Something the author of that ... depleted uranium is very weakly radioactive. Half-life 4.5 billion years!!!
    The radioactivity of these ammunition is a journalistic "duck", based on radiophobia. Harm can be from uranium itself and its compounds - like all heavy metals, it is not good for health. But not as toxic as plutonium.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 20 February 2022 16: 23
      +2
      The mountain shooter is depleted uranium, when the product with its share in the passive state does not emit radiation, but if the armor with the presence of depleted uranium withstands and gets hit, the uranium is split into microfilms, which are the source of increased radiation. The same applies to shells, when hitting a target, depleted uranium "activates" by dividing into a microfilm, which is a source of increased radiation than in the normal state !!! hi
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 20 February 2022 16: 36
        +2
        Quote: Thrifty
        The mountain shooter is depleted uranium, when the product with its share in the passive state does not emit radiation, but if the armor with the presence of depleted uranium withstands and gets hit, the uranium is split into microfilms, which are the source of increased radiation. The same applies to shells, when hitting a target, depleted uranium "activates" by dividing into a microfilm, which is a source of increased radiation than in the normal state !!!

        This is not true. It is impossible to strengthen or weaken the radioactivity of the material by any chemical or mechanical influences!!!
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 20 February 2022 16: 43
          +2
          Mountain shooter - read the Yankee reports on the use of these shells in Iraq, and why massively US soldiers have cancer as a result of the use of these shells. The physical process of splitting materials is a catalyst for producing increased levels of radiation.
          1. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 20 February 2022 19: 52
            +3
            The physical process of splitting materials is a catalyst for producing increased levels of radiation.
            .... complete nonsense. And they lied to you about the catalyst. A catalyst is a substance that takes part in a chemical reaction but remains unchanged at the end of the reaction. And not a single physical (and chemical) process (shot, melting, crushing, etc.) can lead to a change in the speeds and the possibility of intra-atomic processes. So do not believe .... They lie shamelessly. Sometimes you read and marvel at the "level" of education of some journalists ... This is an illustrative picture of how victims of the USE find themselves in life ..... laughing
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 20 February 2022 16: 25
      -4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Harm can be from uranium itself and its compounds

      There was an eccentric in the world who mixed Pollonius into tea instead of sugar. But to spread Uranus on a French bun ... miracles wassat
    3. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 20 February 2022 19: 44
      +1
      depleted uranium is very weakly radioactive

      Quite right. U238 is not radioactive at all. But not quite. Natural uranium (pure, not ore) contains only 0,7% U235 (radioactive). Here it is separated from U238 (not radioactive). Russian Rosatom manages to separate, in my opinion, to a content of 0,1% or less ... These are "tails", they are not thrown away - they are stored in reserve - a necessary thing. The Europeans cannot get 0,2%... And the Yankees... The Yankees have been absent from the uranium enrichment market in principle since the last century - they have been additionally privatized. But "tails" - the remains of depleted uranium in the 235 isotope - amers also have in large quantities. They don't know what to do with them at all. At one time, they supplied them to us under the VOUNOU deal to decontaminate weapons-grade uranium (ours) and obtain fuel for their nuclear power plants. But this deal is closed. They had a project on the use of uranium in shells - they implemented it. Uranium is heavy and that's the only explanation. I do not know to what extent the Americans could deplete uranium, but its radioactivity is less than natural by more than half. Except as a journalistic "duck" manifestations of the effects of radiation in the form of certain pathologies after the use of such ammunition cannot be called. So this is all nonsense ... And these shells are useless for the Poles ... however, like the Abrams. In addition ... neither one nor the other yet.
  7. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 20 February 2022 16: 13
    +1
    In Italy, there are already over 200 lawsuits won by ex-soldiers for this "harmless" uranium. Plus, the inhabitants of Sardinia (the landfill where the shells were disposed of) are dying like flies.
    And in the former Yugoslavia, there are over 10.000 cancer deaths of former soldiers.
    https://ria.ru/20220126/uran-1769475010.html?from=feed
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 20 February 2022 16: 26
      +1
      This is what is called "Radiophobia", not named by me, by doctors. And the lawsuits won are simple - I want money, the judge too. And in general - American shells, exported to third countries, will not be used on the territory of the United States? Yeah, then the problems of the Papuans do not bother anyone in the states.
      We are ALL Papuans for them
      1. Kesha1980
        Kesha1980 20 February 2022 16: 33
        0
        The "epidemic" also struck the Yugoslav army: in the first ten years after the war, more than 30 thousand fell ill with cancer. Mostly diagnosed with leukemia and a brain tumor. Died, according to various sources, from ten to 18 thousand.

        Normal such radiophobia.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 20 February 2022 16: 41
          0
          Quote: Kesha1980
          Normal such radiophobia.

          Stop!!!
          That's what I'm talking about, that in the projectile it is small and not dangerous. And when it explodes, and also with a pyrophoric effect. And then you go and breathe all this dust ??? So the sheriffs once again do not care, purely according to Sorosovsky - to reduce the population to the maximum.
          1. Kesha1980
            Kesha1980 20 February 2022 17: 21
            0
            This is called "bringing democracy to the masses"). The main thing is to stay away from "blessed" America. And if the Poles have this shit, they are clearly either against us, or later dispose of the shells. The effect is one - pollution for many years. If the Americans could not carefully dispose of in Sardinia, then the Poles even more so.
            I am even against the existence of analogues in our arsenal.
        2. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 20 February 2022 16: 47
          +5
          Quote: Kesha1980

          Normal such radiophobia

          The chemical toxicity of depleted uranium under natural conditions is about a million times more dangerous than its radioactivity.

          This is if "according to science." But you can search the Internet and find any nonsense ...
          Tumors from chemical (carcinogenic) action are much more likely than from exposure to radioactivity ...
          1. CAT BAIYUN
            CAT BAIYUN 20 February 2022 19: 58
            0
            Tumors from chemical (carcinogenic) action are much more likely than from exposure to radioactivity ...
            ... In the current realities, there is enough rubbish in the troops. And earlier it was in abundance - rocket fuel alone was worth something .... But radioactivity - in my opinion - has nothing to do with it at all .....
  8. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 20 February 2022 16: 23
    -2
    Against this background, Poland decided to purchase obsolete KEW-A1 ammunition ...

    kaneshna, "DECIDED"! What they forced to buy, then "DECIDED". lol And in general, this junk contains racially correct atoms of freedom, albeit a little depleted. wassat
  9. Bradley
    Bradley 20 February 2022 16: 23
    0
    So what?
    Lead-1 also goes into parts for the T-80BVM and T-72B3.

    By the way, the Poles will still be given the M829A3, which is very dangerous.
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 February 2022 16: 27
    +3
    Not radioactive contamination of the area, but carcinogenic dust from uranium when it breaks through steel.
    In Iraq, this problem was not tank shells, but small-caliber armor-piercing shells of Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, helicopter guns and attack aircraft.
    Tens of thousands of these shells were fired, and they let in carcinogenic dust
    1. Bradley
      Bradley 20 February 2022 16: 32
      -3
      Not radioactive contamination of the area, but carcinogenic dust from uranium when it breaks through steel.
      In Iraq, this problem was not tank shells, but small-caliber armor-piercing shells of Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, helicopter guns and attack aircraft.
      Tens of thousands of these shells were fired, and they let in carcinogenic dust



      Here is the current about. uranium phonite is not higher than the background. Dental crowns are made from it, cases for the transportation of radioactive substances.
      Now we will saturate our units with "Svnits-1" and about. uranium will suddenly become quite normal. laughing

      It's like a UAV. When we didn’t have them, then this, of course, is a hat, it’s not suitable for a war with a serious enemy. Orion appeared, and opinion changed. As it turns out, that's what, UAVs are a very necessary thing in any war, and it’s not bad in the economy either.
    2. x917nt
      x917nt 20 February 2022 16: 32
      +1
      carcinogenic dust from uranium when it pierces steel.


      This is very bad for the tank crew. They can inhale this dangerous dust .... after breaking through the armor ...
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 20 February 2022 16: 52
        -1
        The American infantry inhaled this dust when they did cleanups of the area after the battles. There was a mass of Iraqi equipment beaten by these shells.
        And then they got cancer.
    3. Amateur
      Amateur 20 February 2022 17: 18
      -1
      carcinogenic dust from uranium,

      Dusty uranium ignites spontaneously in air. So don't get carried away by them.
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 20 February 2022 17: 35
        +2
        Quote: Amateur
        carcinogenic dust from uranium,

        Dusty uranium ignites spontaneously in air. So don't get carried away by them.

        What difference does it make to inhale uranium dust or dust in the form of uranium oxide. The carcinogenic properties of uranium are not due to background radiation, not because, like lead, it belongs to heavy metals and can cause similar poisoning, it’s just that the chemical properties of uranium are a strong carcinogen.

        And the peculiarity is that upon impact, it crumbles into dust, which, when used as ammunition for mechanical penetration of armor, concrete leads to contamination of the area.
        1. Amateur
          Amateur 20 February 2022 17: 45
          -1
          Sorry, are you correcting me or want to prove something? drinks
          1. Pandiurin
            Pandiurin 20 February 2022 17: 55
            +1
            Quote: Amateur
            Sorry, are you correcting me or want to prove something? drinks


            "Dusty uranium ignites spontaneously in air. So you can't inhale it."

            Perhaps I misunderstood you. What do you mean by "don't care".

            Uranium dust that burned out, yes, but as a result of combustion, there will be uranium oxide that you can breathe in.
  11. expert
    expert 20 February 2022 16: 34
    0
    "Against this background, Poland decided to purchase obsolete KEW-A1 ammunition, because only they can be delivered in the shortest possible time, and the first Abrams should appear as early as 2022."
    Namely, in the "shortest time", otherwise they will be late for the war with Russia ...
    But what about the laurels of victory (and Russia will be unambiguously and finally defeated) angry ? Will others get it?
  12. Pavel57
    Pavel57 20 February 2022 16: 45
    +3
    It's time to equate shells with a uranium core to chemical weapons.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 February 2022 16: 56
      -3
      These shells pierced the Iraqi T-72s through and through the entire length.
      Frontal armor went through like butter. Therefore, they are somehow not ready to give up ...
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 20 February 2022 17: 35
        +1
        Alexey, from now on, please, in more detail, how and from what distance did the T72 "penetrate through" the Americans? It would be desirable to have facts with evidence, and not lies from the Yankees and their equally deceitful media !!!
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 20 February 2022 17: 47
          +2
          Why are you so surprised?
          The density of uranium is more than 2.5 times that of steel.
          And uranium has the property of self-sharpening when passing steel, like a pencil in a sharpener (and tungsten becomes dull).
          And the length of these uranium crowbars is more than 80 cm. The shells are unitary.
          So the crowbars were pulled out of the engines from behind, after that they went through the entire fighting compartment along the length.
          They usually shot from 1.5 - 2 km
          1. Thrifty
            Thrifty 20 February 2022 18: 26
            +2
            Alexey, I’m so surprised because, apart from allegations about breaking through the T72, there is not even one photo to prove it, and you continue to post this fairy tale. And, armored steel is not homogeneous in composition, it is unlikely to penetrate it through from 2000 meters, even from 1500, taking into account the slope of the T72 frontal armor. This is not the T34, which has an armor thickness of 80mm, there is the equivalent of 750mm, no less. And the armor penetration of such shells is a maximum of 800mm in ideal conditions. So the stories about the through penetration of the entire T72 have already become boring.
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 21 February 2022 09: 17
              -1

              Thrifty
              Yesterday, 18: 26
              NEW

              +2
              Alexey, I'm so surprised because, in addition to allegations about breaking through the T72, there is not even a single photo to prove it, and you continue to post this fairy tale. ...
              It faded as always. His business is to throw a bigger fan.
  13. S. Sergei
    S. Sergei 20 February 2022 16: 50
    +2
    If you do not read the essence of the article, just the hiss of psheks. Not to mention Russia, they take money from the European Union, actually German, and hiss at Germany. They lick boots and ndosam and even hiss at them. They don’t need a reason, such a national feature.
  14. Amateur
    Amateur 20 February 2022 17: 15
    -1
    their use leads to radioactive contamination of the area

    This is the Polish area. Let them infect themselves.
    Americans don't care. This is the problem of Polish testicles.
  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 20 February 2022 17: 27
    -2
    Initially, Katyusha was equipped with thermite charges. Therefore, there was such a success near Yelnya. The Germans threatened to use chem. weapon .
    After that, Katyusha shells were loaded only with high-explosive charges.

    I read this a long time ago, I did not meet confirmation. But it looks authentic.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 20 February 2022 17: 38
      0
      Pavel57-Nazis were given to understand that an attempt to use combat OVs would end with Germany being flooded with the same OVs in response! A, in bm8, bm13, or Katyushas NEVER tested thermite charges! hi
      1. Crash
        Crash 20 February 2022 19: 05
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        Katyushas have NEVER experienced thermite charges!

        Experienced. In 1942 in Leningrad. But they were recognized as redundant and they were abandoned .. This is a lot where it is described
        In addition to the hull, a part of the rocket chamber was also torn, which was heated from the gunpowder burning inside, this increased the fragmentation effect by 1,5-2 times compared to artillery shells of a similar caliber. That is why the legend arose that Katyusha rockets were equipped with a “thermite charge”. The "termite" charge, indeed, was tested in the weighty 1942 of the year in besieged Leningrad, but it turned out to be redundant - after the volley of "Katyushas" and so everything was burning around. And the joint use of dozens of missiles at the same time also created the interference of explosive waves, which further enhanced the damaging effect
      2. Tomcat_Tomcat
        Tomcat_Tomcat 20 February 2022 22: 16
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        And, in bm8, bm13, or Katyushas NEVER tested thermite charges!

        P3C-132 incendiary rockets. They were used very limited.

        The Red Army used a number of other thermite munitions. For example, air bombs. ZARP-100 contained pressed thermite balls in the body. There were just thermite balls and incendiary grenades.
  16. alystan
    alystan 20 February 2022 17: 46
    0
    Somewhere in Europe are still suffering from cancer caused by the use of weapons with depleted uranium. And, as in Vietnam, children are born with terrible injuries. And no one was punished for these atrocities ...
  17. viktortarianik
    viktortarianik 20 February 2022 17: 52
    -1
    Wanted to destroy other people's radiation of the earth? Aren't they afraid that it will turn against them?
  18. Fisherman
    Fisherman 20 February 2022 18: 42
    -1
    It remains to reach the distance of the shot ... for a start, drive this 65-ton monster to the battlefield through the mud. The armor also has depleted uranium .... let's wait and see. In the center of Europe, on black soil or loam (especially after rain) - this is not for you to cut through hard soils and paved roads!
  19. Tomcat_Tomcat
    Tomcat_Tomcat 20 February 2022 19: 39
    +2
    The US State Department issued a permit for the sale of weapons to Poland for the M1A2 Abrams SEPv3 tanks purchased by Warsaw, including KEW-A1 shells with a depleted uranium core.

    On February 18, the United States approved a $6 billion deal for the acquisition by the Polish army of 250 American MBTs, taking into account the cost of ammunition, maintenance equipment, logistics and training costs. Among the types of projectiles purchased is the KEW-A1 with a shot that contains a core consisting of depleted uranium.


    The BMPD block reports otherwise:
    On February 17, 2022, the US Department of Defense Agency for Military Cooperation (DSCA) sent a notification to the US Congress about the planned upcoming sale to Poland through the American Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program of 250 M1A2 SEP v.3 Abrams main tanks. This shipment is approved by the US Department of State. The total cost of the proposed delivery will be $6 billion, including additional equipment and supplies, ammunition, as well as training and technical support packages.

    According to the notification, the delivery should include 250 M1A2 SEP v.3 Abrams tanks with additionally installed AN / VLQ-12 CREW Duke radio suppression devices, 26 M88A2 Hercules armored recovery vehicles, 17 M1110 Joint Assault Bridge (JAB) tank bridge layers, 15 spare AGT-1500 tank engines, 13920 M830A1 cumulative fragmentation tank rounds of 120 mm caliber, 6960 XM1147 high-explosive fragmentation tank rounds with a programmable detonation of 120 mm caliber, 9168 practical rounds of M865 TPCSDS-T; 4592 practical shots M1002 TPMP-T, and more.

    It should be noted that the delivery does not include armor-piercing sub-caliber shells..


    Either BOPS will go according to a different agreement, or I don’t even know what to suggest. The Americans will not give their shells to the Poles.

    The Abrams ammunition load of the US Armed Forces now includes the M829A3 APFSDS-T BOPS (2003, the core material is depleted uranium). BOPS of the KEW family (KEW-A1 core material - depleted uranium, KEW-A2 - tungsten alloy core material) are supplied exclusively for export.
  20. Tomcat_Tomcat
    Tomcat_Tomcat 20 February 2022 19: 54
    +3
    To date, the United States has created a new generation of uranium projectiles, in particular M829A4 with programmable detonation, designed to combat tanks equipped with KAZ.
    question to the authors. M829A4 - classic BOPS. Why does he need a programmable undermining - and in general, how and what are they going to undermine in it?

  21. iouris
    iouris 20 February 2022 21: 20
    -1
    It would be good to use a neutron bomb in that direction.
  22. Pavel57
    Pavel57 21 February 2022 01: 19
    -1
    alystan: -Somewhere in Europe they still suffer from oncological diseases caused by the use of weapons with depleted uranium.

    During the war between NATO and Yugoslavia, the Americans used 30mm shells with a uranium core on A-10 attack aircraft. Serbs and Italian soldiers suffered.
    30mm shells are essentially a means of disposing of American nuclear waste.
  23. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 21 February 2022 01: 37
    -1
    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
    More precisely, they will not receive a gift, but they will purchase for a lot of bucks

    It's an axiom.
    The United States is so "helping" everyone.
    First, they convince of the urgent need to buy it, then they offer a loan for the purchase of goods on "favorable" terms, then they rip off like sticky. Reading for the night "Confessions of an economic hit man".
    PS Isn't it our uranium in shells?
    I remember in the 90s the Yeltsinoid Kremlins, with a prikivanie, drove hundreds of kilograms of uranium to the Americans for a long $.
  24. yaglon
    yaglon 21 February 2022 07: 37
    +1
    Are they confused there? KEW-A1 has been tungsten all its life.
    The manufacturer's website says: "The 120mm KE-W A1® cartridge has been developed to provide state-of-the-art tungsten Armor-Piercing, Fin-Stabilized, Discarding Sabot-Tracer".
    Tungsten is actually tungsten.
    1. Tomcat_Tomcat
      Tomcat_Tomcat 21 February 2022 16: 05
      0
      Quote: yaglon
      Are they confused there? KEW-A1 has been tungsten all its life

      KEW (Tungsten Kinetic Energy round for Egypt) projectiles with a tungsten core were developed by General Dynamics for the Egyptian Abrams. Subsequently, on the basis of this BOPS, the KEW-A1 with a depleted uranium core was developed.
      1. yaglon
        yaglon 21 February 2022 19: 28
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        Strange, I haven't heard anything about it. KEW is a modification of M829 for Egyptian (as well as Australian, etc.) Abrams, where uranium scrap is replaced by tungsten. What's the point of making a uranium projectile out of KEW? Reverse conversion? Isn't it easier to supply the M829 from the warehouse?
        1. Tomcat_Tomcat
          Tomcat_Tomcat 21 February 2022 20: 30
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          Quote: yaglon
          Isn't it easier to supply the M829 from the warehouse?

          Now for "Abrams" from BOPS there are only M829A3 and A4, the rest are outdated and are not used. They are not exported. For export, KEW are analogues of DM53A1 and M829A2 in terms of armor penetration.
          1. yaglon
            yaglon 21 February 2022 20: 56
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            No, they are very different. And all KEWs are tungsten. I will place the table below, I created it specially now.
            1. yaglon
              yaglon 21 February 2022 21: 26
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              If you also have links to re-equip KEW with uranium scrap, I will be glad to take a look. But so far this seems counterintuitive. If you prohibit the export of 829 A3 and A4, then what is the point of converting the tungsten? Isn't it easier to unload A2 from warehouses to the same Poles?
  25. fiv
    fiv 21 February 2022 07: 50
    -1
    Since 2004, the Polish budget has been replenished with 181 billion euros of geyropoy. Marvelous are the deeds of the gay people.
  26. 1536
    1536 21 February 2022 10: 37
    0
    Do we have such ammunition? Or are we such "humanists" that we consider non-humans to be people and will endure how the Poles will destroy Russians with uranium shells, how the Americans destroyed the Serbs in Yugoslavia?
    If in the Great Patriotic War there had been such a "tolerant" approach to the Nazis of all stripes, the Victory in 1945 would hardly have happened. Poland was part of the Third Reich as a general government from 1939 to 1945.
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 21 February 2022 11: 46
      0
      Lead and Lead-1 are made from Uranus
      1. yaglon
        yaglon 21 February 2022 20: 18
        0
        Lead and Lead-1 from uranium, Lead-2 and Lekalo from tungsten, Vant and File-2 from uranium, Mango from tungsten, Lead-1 and Vacuum-1 uranium, Lead-2 and Vacuum-2 tungsten.
  27. Barberry25
    Barberry25 21 February 2022 11: 45
    0
    more like the Americans are unformatted and the delay is drained from warehouses)
  28. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 21 February 2022 16: 35
    0
    Abrams tanks for the Polish army will be armed with depleted uranium KEW-A1 shells

    Still, the Poles would like to get acquainted with ammunition with "enriched uranium" ...
  29. yaglon
    yaglon 21 February 2022 21: 00
    +1
    For those who are confused about modern APFSDS (that is, BOPS) of 120-125 mm caliber, I propose the following table. I would be glad if someone makes corrections. But at the moment it reflects the approximate alignment well. Penetration everywhere for 2 km along the normal, at an angle of 30/60 degrees. it is necessary to divide by 1,8-2,2 depending on the projectile and type of armor (there are shells sharpened for specific armor and for a specific remote sensing). Each result is plus/minus 50 mm depending on the calculation methods.
    As we can see, here the role of even the improved KE-WA2 is clearly an outsider.
    125 mm MANGO (tungsten, USSR, 1988) = 500 mm,
    125 mm VANT (uranium, USSR, 1987) = 550 mm,
    120 mm М829 (uranium, USA, 1985) = 600 mm,
    120mm DM33 L/44 (tungsten, Germany, 1987) = 600mm,
    125 mm LEAD (uranium, USSR, 1991) = 600 mm,
    120mm KE-W (tungsten, USA, export, 1991) = 630mm,
    125 mm LEKALO (tungsten, Russia, 1998) = 650 mm,
    125 mm LEAD-2 (tungsten, Russia, 2002) = 650 mm,
    125 mm M711 (tungsten, Israel, 1996) = 670 mm,
    120mm KE-WA1 (tungsten, USA, export, 1999) = 670mm,
    120 mm M829A1 (uranium, USA, 1988) = 700 mm,
    120mm KE-WA2 (tungsten, USA, export, 2004) = 700mm,
    120 mm M829A2 (uranium, USA, 1993) = 750 mm,
    120mm DM53 L/44 (tungsten, Germany, 1999) = 750mm,
    125 mm LEAD-1 (uranium, Russia, 2002) = 750 mm,
    120mm DM53 L/55 (tungsten, Germany, 1999) = 800mm,
    125 mm VACUUM-2 (tungsten, Russia, 2015) = 800 mm,
    120 mm M829A3 (uranium, USA, 2003) = 850 mm,
    125 mm TYPE 03 (uranium, China, 2005) = 850 mm,
    125 mm VACUUM-1 (uranium, Russia, 2015) = 900 mm,
    120mm M829A4 (uranium US 2020) = 950mm.
    And yes, if we add 152 mm ammunition to the table, we get
    152 mm Grifel-2 (tungsten, Russia, 2010) = 900 mm.
    152 mm Grifel-1 (uranium, Russia, 2010) = 1050 mm.
    And if we put uranium on the KE-WA1, then we get +50 to penetrate approximately, that is, 720 mm.
    On KE-WA2 we get 750 mm. It will reach the level of M829A2 and LEAD-1.