Ex-Minister of Defense of Ukraine: If Ukrainian troops resisted in 2014, in the worst case, they could only surrender Sevastopol

_{Photo of the Ukrainian Navy is illustrative}

The former Minister of Defense of Ukraine Vitaliy Radetsky spoke about the Ukrainian events of the 8-year-old model. He was in the position of head of the Ukrainian military department in 1993-1994. In an interview with Dmitry Gordon, a retired army general commented on the processes that took place with the Crimean peninsula.

The retired general was asked how it happened that Ukrainian troops left Crimea in February-March 2014 without any resistance. Recall that at that time many Ukrainian servicemen remained in Crimea, having made the decision of the local population in favor of the reunification of the peninsula with Russia. Those who did not agree to this went to Ukrainian territory, actually supporting the anti-constitutional coup in the country.

According to the former Minister of Defense of Ukraine, in 2014 Ukrainian troops "could defend Crimea without any talk."

Radetsky believes that at that time Russia made an attempt - with an eye on how Ukraine would behave, how the Ukrainian troops would behave.

Radetzky:

Those were tests. There was a plan how (Crimea) to cut off.

A retired Ukrainian general said that if Ukrainian troops had resisted in February 2014, “in the worst case, only Sevastopol could have surrendered, but not the entire Crimean peninsula.”

According to the Ukrainian ex-minister, it cannot be said that at that time the leadership and command showed "misunderstanding of what was happening." Vitaly Radetsky believes that we should talk about cowardice and betrayal, which must be punished.

For reference: against the backdrop of events related to the collapse of the USSR, Radetsky was one of the first generals to support Ukrainian sovereignty and came out in support of Kravchuk. After Kravchuk left the post of head of the Ukrainian state, he was removed from the post of Minister of Defense, but continued to hold high positions, including the position of head of the National Ukrainian Defense Academy.

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[andr327]

If yes

[Kayala]

That's right, after a fight, all the heroes wave their fists, and the skakuas are generally masters in this sport!

P.S. If what started today is not a petty mess, but the real beginning of the database, then I'll see how this ukrohiroy will broadcast from somewhere in Warsaw, how he would pile on the Muscovites, though if he manages to run to the border ...

[fruc]

A retired Ukrainian general said that if Ukrainian troops had resisted in February 2014.......

What else does he say...
-Tick to Lviv!

[RoTTor]

to the Canadian Ukrainian diaspora - there, the unfinished fascists have been stacked since 1945 with the help of American farmers, they were hidden from fair retribution.
To be half a liter of emigrants as far as possible from the "ridden Nenka" and "kohata ii" the farther from her - the stronger - the crystal dream of a true Ukrainian patriot

[Volkof]

Radetsky was one of the first generals to support Ukrainian sovereignty and came out in support of Kravchuk.

This is not true, all the generals in Ukraine have taken a wait-and-see attitude. They could not even find a general for the post of Minister of Defense. With difficulty, one was found - Morozov ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Kayala

If he manages to reach the border...

Will have time. They run very fast

[alystan]

If his grandmother had resisted him in her youth, she would still be a marriageable girl ...
They don’t think about their own words, but they, like that boomerang, can return to his forehead.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: alystan

They don't think about their own words

They think everything is forgotten

[EMMM]

And the word is not a sparrow ...

[Seryoga64]

Well, to a friend, just to tweet

[militarist63]

If his grandmother in her youth ....

Aha! And if his grandmother had a penis, then she would have been a grandfather!

[RoTTor]

... and such a "commander" would not have degenerated

[knn54]

"If I were a queen, she says ..."

[Seryoga64]

Quote: knn54

says..."

Don't speak
Lying like a gray gelding

[Seryoga64]

Quote: andr327

If yes

Yes, 8 years later

[tihonmarine]

Quote: andr327

If yes

Eh!!! We would give them! If only they caught up with us!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tihonmarine

Eh!!! We would give them! If only they caught up with us!

Something I never saw a single Sumerian warrior with weapons

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Seryoga64

Something I never saw a single Sumerian warrior with weapons

Well, if the Ukrainian generals from the Crimea rushed before the soldiers, then who will fight. Normal people remained in the Crimea, and a handful of Nazis returned to the ATO.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tihonmarine

and a handful of Nazis returned to the ATO.

Below I posted a video on this topic.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Seryoga64

Below I posted a video on this topic.

Thanks, I will look.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Seryoga64

Below I posted a video on this topic.

I looked, well, those who rushed to Kiev on foot, those at least in the ATO, even in ISIS.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tihonmarine

well, who rushed to Kiev on foot,

It is called, and not send us a messenger ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Seryoga64

It is called, and not send us a messenger ...

I sit down already, it's my wife's birthday.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tihonmarine

I sit down already, it's my wife's birthday.

Congratulate me

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Seryoga64

Congratulate me

Congrats, it's her 60th birthday.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tihonmarine

It's her 60th birthday after all.

My birthday is March 18th. 65

[carstorm 11]

Well, objectively, this is not entirely true. Remember the assault on Naval Headquarters 404.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: andr327

If yes

Eh!!! We would give them! If only they caught up with us!

Which, in general, they demonstrated in the post-Crimean period, when they jumped from cauldron to cauldron in the Donbass.

[Real Pilot]

Most of them became military personnel of the Russian Federation. And, by the way, do not regret it!
And going to the bald "product # 2" is not self-respecting.
But this general is still from the Kravchuk cohort of traitors, he is not ashamed ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: RealPilot

Most of them became military personnel of the Russian Federation

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: RealPilot

But this general is still from the Kravchuk cohort of traitors, he is not ashamed ...

An interesting article was published in April '14

[Alien From]

Sevastopol is a city of Russian sailors !!!!!!) Without HOP!!!!!!!!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: andr327

If yes

Svido General did not say that Krychans and Sevastopolians, Russian people, served in Sevastopol and Crimea. Eighty and maybe more percent were in the service of the Armed Forces and the Navy, as well as in the Security Service and the Police. These people will not fight with their mothers and fathers, sisters and wives, friends and brothers .. That's all. So there was no war in Sevastopol and Crimea.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: andr327

If yes

If the North wind had not been slowed down, then this problem would not have existed at all.

[Piramidon]

Quote: andr327

If yes

If Stalin at one time had exhausted all the Banderaites to zero, if Nikitka WOULD not have given Crimea to Ukraine, if the mothers of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kuchma and Shukhevych WOULD have had an abortion in time ... You can dream, but History does not have a subjunctive mood.

[paul3390]

Wow, how would we give them if they caught up with us!!!

[210ox]

After the fight (although there was no fight), they decided to wave their little hands.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: 210ox

decided to wave their hands.

Forgot to tie in the fool

[Seryoga64]

Quote: 210ox

After the fight (although there was no fight), they decided to wave their little hands.

They waved their hand to Crimea in 2014

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Seryoga64

They waved their hand to Crimea in 2014

And Crimea also waved to them with a pen, saying: "So that your spirit is no longer in Crimea!"

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tihonmarine

"So that your spirit is no longer in the Crimea!"

They carried out the command in a disciplined manner

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

After the fight (although there was no fight), they decided to wave their little hands.

As always, you read how after the Second World War the Nazi generals "waving their little hands" well, just like this general.

[NDR-791]

According to the former Minister of Defense of Ukraine, in 2014 Ukrainian troops "could defend Crimea without any talk."

Now he is sad that it was not HE personally (zig !!!) who was the Minister of Defense in 14? Or is he sad that he is already an "ex" and they won't take him to Rostov?

[Thrifty]

These are the same troops that gave weapons, military equipment, ammunition to nationalists and scumbags, when the Ukrainian Maidan was sickly? uk-roins. They live with such a story all their lives.

[gurzuf]

If such a patriot, if eager to fight, then why retired during the war? Only a coward can sit out during a war.

[Emergency]

Grandfather is old, grandfather is sick. He overate semolina porridge, and now he carries all sorts of nonsense.

[tank64rus]

History has no if yes if only. And if we listened to "friends" less, for a long time the borders of Ukraine were limited to the Lviv region ..

[75 Sergey]

As in a joke - if they caught up with us, then yes, we would have shown them!

[rocket757]

"Die Geschichte kennt kein Wenn" history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood ... this was said for the especially "spiritualized".
however, completely skipping, say what, don’t say what, one fig.

[Emergency]

Then you and Kherson and Nikolaev would not have counted.

[impostor]

This character personally did not intend to shed blood either in 1994 or 2014, right?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: impostor

This character personally did not intend to shed blood either in 1994 or 2014, right?

Of course, he was not going to shed HIS blood, but he drank plenty of the blood of the Russian military KChF (still undivided) and their families ....
Read the periodicals of those years .....
In Crimea, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine had the 32nd AK ....
In 2014, the Armed Forces of Ukraine had an advantage in terms of the land and aviation components, the Armed Forces of Ukraine ruined the territorial method of manning the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the deterioration of the material part of the military and military equipment, as well as the mess and slovenliness, which, incidentally, was to our advantage ....

[impostor]

There was a sufficient amount of video materials when they arrived at the location of the units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of Ukraine, in a calm, confident voice they gave the order to lay down their arms and leave the location. After several minutes of hesitation and reflection, the order was carried out. No one had any desire to sprinkle the earth with red.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: impostor

There was a sufficient amount of video materials when they arrived at the location of the units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces of Ukraine, in a calm, confident voice they gave the order to lay down their arms and leave the location.

This was after the arrival of units of the RF Armed Forces from the "mainland" in Crimea ....

No one had any desire to sprinkle the earth with red.

Yes, I kind of wrote in Russian above:

APU ruined - territorial picking method

That is, in the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Crimea, almost all the locals served ... with whom were they supposed to fight?
A large number of l / s from western Ukraine was in the regiment of explosives stationed in the Crimea ...

[Ross xnumx]

A retired Ukrainian general said that if Ukrainian troops had resisted in February 2014, “in the worst case, only Sevastopol could have surrendered, but not the entire Crimean peninsula.”

I have an assumption that after the official acceptance of the independence of the LDNR, with continued shelling of the territory of Novorossiya, Ukrainian troops and "nationalist zachukhontsy" will be able to surrender not only the Luhansk and Donetsk republics ... Fuck knows - intuition ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: ROSS 42

intuition...

And you can't fool her

[Dart2027]

if in February 2014 Ukrainian troops had resisted

Are these the ones who were beaten by unarmed and untrained militias?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

A retired Ukrainian general said that if Ukrainian troops had resisted in February 2014, “in the worst case, only Sevastopol could have surrendered, but not the entire Crimean peninsula.”

PR in its purest form. The Ukrainian units stationed in Crimea did not have a single chance to hold something there.
Theoretically, there were 17 military personnel there, not counting civilian service personnel, but in practice it was mostly naval personnel, who were not very good on the ground, employees of various training centers and air defense. And of those who could do something in the combined-arms EMNIP, there were only a coastal defense mechanized brigade, a couple of battalions of marines with the support of a brigade artillery group, and internal troops. But, of course, they were not ready, they were not deployed, and they were not trying to do something from the "lying" position against the Russian SOF, with their experience of the war in Chechnya and with the support that aviation could provide at any moment ...
I'm happy that nothing happened. But, considering the situation purely theoretically, the combat-ready Ukrainian units would be defeated immediately, without even having time to turn around

[dimy44]

Andrey, and given the percentage of Crimean servicemen who did not support the illegal coup d'état, there is not even anything to talk about.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: dimy44

Andrey, and given the percentage of Crimean servicemen who did not support the illegal coup d'état, there is not even anything to talk about.

Certainly. And therefore, I am not at all inclined to accuse the Crimean servicemen of cowardice. There is a coup d'état in your country, you yourself know very well how Crimea lives, and ... fight? For whom? For what?

[Wildcat]

and given the percentage of servicemen who were Crimeans who did not support the illegal coup d'état

it would also be good to take into account what percentage of the USSR servicemen became the Armed Forces of Ukraine, because:
"apartments"
"families"
"Work"
"Where are we going from here, everything is here!".
Just for the future, it would be good to consider. Because this is how it happens (artistic reconstruction):

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

PR in its purest form.

Are you sure that the first word is spelled without errors?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

PR in its purest form. The Ukrainian units stationed in Crimea did not have a single chance to hold something there

Tried

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Seryoga64

Tried

So it's also publicity.
A beautiful picture for the media - they say, we also resisted. But in fact, two self-defenders, three fighters of the RF Armed Forces and one "Tiger" were enough to stop the procession of Mamchur. And that's all - the whole fuse of the marchers ended after the very first bursts and the statement: "One commander here! So, men, I have to shoot in the legs!".

[Avior]

The reasons why the order to resist was not given then have long been known, voiced, declassified and posted the transcript of the National Security and Defense Council. Here is the transcript.
https://bykvu.com/ua/bukvy/23120-polnaya-stenogramma-zasedaniya-snbo-po-krymu/
here it is translated into Russian
https://echo.msk.ru/blog/echomsk/1717754-echo/
Everything is known first-hand, there is nothing to guess.
In short, the troops are not ready not only in the Crimea, but in general in Ukraine, the Crimean police went over to the Russian side, the Americans and the Germans warn that if they try to take active actions, there will be a full-scale deployment of troops to the mainland. Directly during the National Security and Defense Council, Naryshkin called with threats.
Grandpa's stories look like the chatter of an elderly bored pensioner.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

but in general in Ukraine, Crimean police went over to the Russian side

So in Crimea, there has always been the Russian police, and there has never been a Ukrainian police.

[Avior]

yes, then it was still the police

[svp67]

Well, yes, after a fight, you can wave your fists so well ...

[Sands Careers General]

If in 2014 the Ukrainian troops resisted, then in the worst case they could only surrender Sevastopol

If, yes, if only. Mushrooms grew on the nose, and in the anus)))

History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

If it had come to clashes between the armies of the Russian Federation and Ukraine, then the matter would not have been limited to Crimea.

[svd-xnumx]

In the spring of 2014, the railway in Bryansk was clogged with trains with military equipment, for some reason Putin did not risk then having Yanukovych, the current president, in his hands. And then the howl over the "puddle" would have been smaller.

[TermNachTer]

All the beaten generals tell the same thing))) Now, if I were a minister, I would drive the Russians beyond the Urals)))

[iouris]

The ex-minister does not know or does not understand that it is not the army that is fighting, but the state. If the state has collapsed, then military operations are possible only within the framework of a civil war between two forces or a war of all against all for resources. England and the Americas supplied a lot of weapons for just such a war. bUkraine is turning into a kind of ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation).

[tihonmarine]

A retired Ukrainian general said that if Ukrainian troops had resisted in February 2014, “in the worst case, only Sevastopol could have surrendered, but not the entire Crimean peninsula.”

Our soldiers were bad, and we are generals, we were only born to win, but the soldiers betrayed us. The most unpleasant person who betrayed his country to the USSR, swore allegiance to another country, and accused his army of betrayal.

[Denis812]

So this is ... there, as it were, there was no time for resistance.
Evil polite people could actually start shooting!
Therefore, the valiant defenders of the peninsula undertook an unprecedented operation for a strategic echelon withdrawal.
There are even pictures from the scene.

Walter Model was turning over in his grave seeing such effective retreats.

[xomaNN]

Here retired warriors like to "wave their fists after a fight."
But in real life, no one dared to shoot from u-kr. - chiefs of various levels in Crimea even from AKM

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

A retired Ukrainian general said that if ...

[Drugov]

There were seven of them, only a hundred of us
All night they fought, they fought, by morning they caught up
We would give them if they caught up with us

[Stepan S]

Well, now there are all the heroes, wherever you spit. And in all boilers they won. What can I say - the most powerful army in Europe.

[Metallurg_2]

You can see everything from the sofa.

[Avior]

served as head of the Ukrainian military department in 1993-1994

Grandpa is bored in retirement, there is no one to talk to, there are no subordinates left ...

[akarfoxhound]

With the collapse of the Union, it was mainly those who did not shine in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation who left for the Hohlopitek army. According to the command staff of the Black Sea Fleet, for example, 100%! And now debil, you tell for the opinion.
It's all crap, it was very competently organized, no one shamarcked, who tried - they got it in the teeth quickly and efficiently, without publicity. And everything was clear to everyone involved on both sides

[Blackgrifon]

They should stop mixing vodka with coke ... Yes, and eat hallucinogenic mushrooms ...

[Fisherman]

If only this back thought was reasonable ... and it is in every sense - back!

[cheburator]

If they rocked, then in the worst case, everyone would have finished!

[Maks winter]

if in 2014 they resisted, then Odessa, and all of Ukraine, to Lviv, would become Russia

[blackcat]

If the Ukrainian troops would resist, then maybe there would be no such country? And problems with Donetsk and Luhansk?

[Vitaly Petrov_3]

Those warriors had normal brains, unspoiled by Paskin's cookies! And what happened to others brain infection, no other way to understand!

[Vitaly Petrov_3]

Quote: svd-xnumx

In the spring of 2014, the railway in Bryansk was clogged with trains with military equipment, for some reason Putin did not risk then having Yanukovych, the current president, in his hands. And then the howl over the "puddle" would have been smaller.

100500

[Fitter65]

According to the former Minister of Defense of Ukraine, in 2014 Ukrainian troops "could defend Crimea without any talk."

They could, they couldn't ... If they could, they would have done it, and would not have run around the airfield shouting - America is with us! The one who could, he did. Crimea was liberated from under the Bandera occupation. And someone could only talk with their tongue, and the result ...

[RoTTor]

Found authority. Lower than zero.
Radetzky is a coward and a traitor.
At the presidential elections-1994 in Ukraine, Radetsky, then the Minister of Defense, sent a secret telegram to the commanders of the military unit with an ORDER to ensure voting FOR Kravchuk and not to allow any agitators from the presidential candidate Kuchma in the unit.
For non-fulfilment - failure to ensure victory in the elections of Kravchuk Supreme Commander-in-Chief of his Defense Minister, this sycophant half-fool threatened the commanders ... with removal from their posts.

Somewhere in my archives there is this masterpiece of official iliotism.


There were no gadgets at that time, but honest officers copied this masterpiece of official idiocy and on the eve of the 2nd round handed over to Kuchma, who was considered a "red director", and not such a treacherous evil spirit as Kravchuk, the head of the Communist Party. Well. and this one cheated.

BUT after the victory in the elections, Kuchma and Radetsky immediately left. But gently
Radetzky in the army was also remembered for the fact that he personally introduced into the uniform ... a chic leather coat. Only for himself, like the North Korean Kim Jong Un, and at the expense of the MoD, the poor man did not have enough money for leather, but he really wanted to ...

[Keer]

And if they had survived under Brody? Now everyone would wear gilded silk harem pants

[Lunic]

I remember very well what kind of (rabble) army Ukraine had after the collapse of the Union in the 90s and in the 2000s. The ex-Minister of Defense is the same, ... the starball.

[voitenkoalexandrv]

If grandmother had a horseradish hanging, she would become a grandfather ...

[sleeve]

If my grandmother had a dick, she would play for the Canadian Olympic team. If the army of Ukraine was capable of resisting in 2014, then there would most likely be no Maidan. She was not decomposed so that she could resist.

[RoTTor]

What percentage of Ukrainian impotent security forces remained in the Russian Crimea, easily swore allegiance, just not to break away from the blessed Taurida.
More than NINETY%.
It was exactly the same in 1991, they held on to Ukraine like a louse by a casing and easily swore allegiance.
Already TWO Su-24 crews from Starokonstantinov flew to Russia with the rescued Battle Banner

[Yuri Siritsky_2]

The retiree dreamed. I probably forgot that there were 25 Russian soldiers in Crimea.

[shinobi]

A fool gets richer with a thought! The question was closed 8 years ago.

[Evil 55]

Then UKRALIN would be all the size of the Lviv region, and the capital is there, and not in Kuev ..

[Reserve buildbat]

How could the skakuas surrender Sevastopol if it never belonged to them? Sevastopol has always been a Russian city of all-Union significance and did not hand over any Khrushchev to the skakuas. Crimea - yes, I passed. Illegal and stupid, since he himself is a Banderaite. And Sevastopol remained a city of allied significance, the base of the Black Sea Fleet.