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Russia expelled deputy ambassador of the US embassy

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The American embassy in Moscow has lost one of its key figures - US Deputy Ambassador to Russia Bart Gorman. The Russian Foreign Ministry decided to expel an American diplomat from Russia. This was reported by the press service of the American Embassy.


Bart Goman was the second most important person in the US Embassy after US Ambassador to Moscow John Sullivan. The US embassy did not disclose the reasons for the expulsion, saying that Gorman's three-year stay in Russia had not yet expired and he had a valid visa. At the embassy, ​​Gorman was responsible for "key aspects of US-Russian relations." The Americans called the actions of the Russian Foreign Ministry illegal and threatened with retaliatory measures.

Russia expelled US Deputy Chief of Mission (DCM) to Russia Bart Gorman. Gorman was the second most senior official at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, after the ambassador, and a key member of the embassy's senior management team.

- leads RIA News embassy press officer Jason Rebholz.

It is noted that the expulsion of the diplomat began after a visit to the Russian Foreign Ministry by US Ambassador to Moscow John Sullivan. He was summoned to the Foreign Ministry and left the building literally 15 minutes after his arrival. The American ambassador did not give any comments.

Earlier, Russian Ambassador to the United States Anatoly Antonov said that the United States did not intend to stop the "visa war" that was unleashed by Washington last year, when on April 15 Biden signed a new package of sanctions against Russia, which provides for the expulsion of ten Russian diplomats, named in Washington as "Russian employees". intelligence."

Russia responded in reverse and expelled ten employees of the American embassy, ​​banned the entry of eight high-ranking officials from the Joe Biden administration, banned the employment of Russian citizens and third-country nationals in the US embassy and consulate, and limited the number of short-term business trips through the State Department. In addition, the work of American foundations and NGOs interfering in Russian politics was stopped.
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  1. Cananecat
    Cananecat 17 February 2022 17: 38
    +2
    Russia expelled deputy ambassador of the US embassy

    Since such a booze has gone, cut the last cucumber ...
    The expected probable answer is the expulsion of Antonov from the states.
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 17 February 2022 17: 41
      -67
      Quote: Canecat
      Russia expelled deputy ambassador of the US embassy

      Since such a booze has gone, cut the last cucumber ...
      The expected probable answer is the expulsion of Antonov from the states.

      Not. He will not be sent. Who then will bend the leading and systematic, to the public, the line of the party (ER)? We must know our heroes.
    2. Machito
      Machito 17 February 2022 17: 41
      +8
      Bormann was expelled from Russia. laughing
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 17 February 2022 18: 12
        +16
        Quote: Bearded
        Bormann was expelled from Russia. laughing

        Bormann was clearly taken on a hot .. So, as the details were not disclosed. Spy! but ...
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 17 February 2022 20: 26
          0
          Gorman was going to quit the State Department - he had to
          about to leave. Spy for the last time? Unlikely.
          More like a warning. No harm, but blown up. hi
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 17 February 2022 20: 38
            0
            One version...
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 17 February 2022 20: 42
              -3
              No worse than yours. wink
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 17 February 2022 20: 44
                +1
                I don't argue.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 17 February 2022 20: 45
                  -3
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  I don't argue.

                  drinks
                2. Alex777
                  Alex777 17 February 2022 23: 26
                  -2
                  “The American diplomat was indeed ordered to leave Russia, but strictly in response to the unjustified expulsion of the envoy-counselor of our embassy in Washington, despite his status as a senior official,” RIA Novosti quotes a statement.

                  According to Zakharova, the State Department defiantly ignored Moscow's request to extend his stay, at least until the "replacement" arrived.
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 18 February 2022 09: 21
                    +2
                    “But Moscow thereby reminded Washington that, apart from claims to NATO expansion, there are others, for example, the diplomatic crisis with mass mutual expulsions of diplomats has not gone away,” Kortunov said.

                    It was in this form that Moscow responded to Washington to a recent scandal, when our Russian ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, said that the State Department, in fact, threatened him with expulsion if the Russian Foreign Ministry did not issue visas to Sullivan's guards, the expert believes.

                    “So the expulsion of Gorman can be considered a kind of call from Moscow to discuss diplomatic bilateral issues,” the political scientist suggested. According to Kortunov, in personal conversations, Gorman confessed to him that he himself was going to leave the diplomatic service altogether soon. “By the way, after this expulsion, his leadership will most likely ask Gorman not to quit for some time - in order to express disagreement with Moscow's gesture. After all, his resignation immediately after being expelled from Russia will not look very good for the State Department,” Kortunov admitted.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 18 February 2022 14: 05
                      -2
                      So I thought that our versions would converge into one. wink
      2. gansales
        gansales 17 February 2022 20: 24
        0
        Quote: Bearded
        Bormann was expelled from Russia. laughing

        It's time for all sorts of mana ..
        Let them sit in Kiev and sharpen their teeth
    3. boris epstein
      boris epstein 17 February 2022 18: 07
      +5
      Antonov and Gorman in different ranks. The expulsion of an ambassador is equal to a declaration of war.
      1. NKT
        NKT 17 February 2022 18: 33
        +12
        Declaration of war - presentation of the document to the ambassador.
        Ours recommended last year to the American ambassador to go to his home - to rest, nothing - he went. Belarus sent the ambassador along with the embassy and nothing.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 February 2022 17: 42
    +19
    A magic pendal at least for the path to this ambassador in our Foreign Ministry was discharged, I hope? wassat So to speak, gave him an additional acceleration wassat
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 February 2022 17: 43
    +13
    Lavrov at the meeting said "yes, you are the ambassador", but the Yankees did not understand, and really went wassat home, in the usa wassat
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 17 February 2022 17: 46
      -65
      Quote: Thrifty
      Lavrov at the meeting said "yes, you are the ambassador", and

      That's exactly what's real, he can't say anything more! There is no worse minister!
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 17 February 2022 17: 57
        +18
        Quote: lis-ik
        he can't say anything more

        Are you serious?
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 17 February 2022 17: 58
          -54
          Quote: Repellent
          Quote: lis-ik
          he can't say anything more

          Are you serious?

          Yes. This creature pissed off everything that is possible.
          1. Babay Atasovich
            Babay Atasovich 17 February 2022 18: 08
            +13
            Quote: lis-ik
            Quote: Repellent
            Quote: lis-ik
            he can't say anything more

            Are you serious?

            Yes. This creature pissed off everything that is possible.

            Is this about Zelka? fellow
          2. Repellent
            Repellent 17 February 2022 18: 09
            +10
            Quote: lis-ik
            Quote: Repellent
            Are you serious?

            Yes. This creature pissed off everything that is possible.

            And what exactly ("what is possible"), do not specify?
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 17 February 2022 18: 21
              -35
              Quote: Repellent
              Quote: lis-ik
              Quote: Repellent
              Are you serious?

              Yes. This creature pissed off everything that is possible.

              And what exactly ("what is possible"), do not specify?

              Specifically, what are the victories? He pissed off diplomatic power in the United States, surrendered all positions in any negotiations. Name at least one victory for Russian diplomacy before stupidly minus. You did not live during the Soviet era.
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 17 February 2022 18: 31
                +14
                Quote: lis-ik
                You did not live during the Soviet era

                Do not guess.

                Quote: lis-ik
                Name at least one victory of Russian diplomacy

                Are you one of the chosen ones? Don't turn around. Your words: "failed everything that is possible." So tell me what exactly. Here, it could have been like this ... but Lavrov did not guess, and it turned out like this. Otherwise, the conversation is pointless.

                "Diplomatic property in the USA" is a so-so example ...
              2. alexmach
                alexmach 17 February 2022 18: 41
                +11
                You did not live during the Soviet era

                So now you do not live in the days of the USSR.
                Name at least one victory of Russian diplomacy

                For God's sake
                * Minsk agreements
                * All Syrian history
              3. ROSS_51
                ROSS_51 18 February 2022 05: 02
                +7
                Quote: lis-ik
                You did not live during the Soviet era.

                I moved my sofa to yours - start teaching Lavrov diplomacy. And yes, I lived in the USSR and I well remember the "brilliant" ministers Shevardnadze and Kozyrev, who are unlikely to be outdone by pissing.
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          4. Ady66
            Ady66 17 February 2022 18: 31
            +16
            Do you want Kozyrev?
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      2. Dimy4
        Dimy4 17 February 2022 18: 06
        +14
        There is no worse minister!

        Remember Kozyrev, how do you like him?
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 17 February 2022 18: 27
          -22
          Quote: Dimy4
          There is no worse minister!

          Remember Kozyrev, how do you like him?

          He's a scum, I've always said he's even worse.
          1. Ady66
            Ady66 17 February 2022 18: 33
            +14
            That is, all the ministers of foreign affairs of the Russian Federation, by definition, are bastards? )))
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 17 February 2022 18: 38
              -23
              Quote: Ady66
              That is, all the ministers of foreign affairs of the Russian Federation, by definition, are bastards? )))

              Kozyrev, why do you want to protect him? I am also in Hebrew.
              1. Ady66
                Ady66 17 February 2022 18: 46
                +7
                I mean, Lavrov is disgusting to you))). In my opinion, Primakov and Lavrov are the best in the post of Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Gromyko is YES, but alas (((
              2. Ovsigovets
                Ovsigovets 18 February 2022 00: 11
                +1
                you can first ask an indiscreet question in order to understand how substantively to conduct a conversation - you can find out your type of professional activity and position (title) ????
            2. 203-K
              203-K 19 February 2022 14: 13
              0
              Quote: Ady66
              That is, all the ministers of foreign affairs of the Russian Federation, by definition, are bastards? )))

              Of all the senior managers in Russia in the 21st century, Lavrov is not only the best, but also the most talented and efficient. We are very lucky to have him.
  4. alystan
    alystan 17 February 2022 17: 44
    +9
    Finally got ahead of the curve! And this is good and right!
    The American embassy in Moscow has lost one of the key figures

    To make such a decision, this Gorman had to "work out" for serious "compromising evidence".
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 17 February 2022 18: 01
      +7
      Quote: alystan
      To make such a decision, this Gorman had to "work out" for serious "compromising evidence".
      Not necessarily, such individuals do not work at the grassroots level, even if they are regular employees of the special services. A blow to such a figure, when his visa does not even run out, only showed that we will not stop. Now the Yankees will start scratching their turnips seriously ...
      1. alystan
        alystan 17 February 2022 20: 08
        +1
        Well, I specifically put some words in quotation marks.
        After all, it is known who is put in secondary roles in embassies in the Foreign Ministry.
        We waited for the right moment and "covered" the agents.
        Yes, and he "inherited" notably in his former places of work!
      2. Sergey Nikiforov
        Sergey Nikiforov 18 February 2022 15: 50
        -1
        And why should they scratch They will leave the ambassador and a dozen diplomats But the whole trick is that they can easily transfer all intelligence work to the same British embassy, ​​and where are we.? Yes, and in the US there are a lot of all sorts of conferences, etc., and what about visas to Poland.?
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 18 February 2022 17: 11
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
          But the whole point is that they can easily transfer all intelligence work to the same British embassy
          Their embassy is not rubber, the number of employees is limited, and why do they need extra hemorrhoids?
          This is all unrealistic.

          Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
          and where are we?

          the UN and other international organizations.
          Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
          Yes, and in the US there are a lot of all sorts of conferences, etc., and what about visas to Poland.?

          It is possible to the Baltic states or Finland. We'll have to endure the inconvenience until the American intelligence services howl.
  5. Radikal
    Radikal 17 February 2022 17: 45
    -4
    Is TASS authorized to announce - two? lol
  6. Well done
    Well done 17 February 2022 17: 48
    +4
    Looks like this Bart is not so simple. He's clearly not from the Simpsons.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 17 February 2022 18: 09
      +10
      Quote: Welldone
      Looks like this Bart is not so simple


      "Mr. Gorman's most recent assignment was as the Director of Diplomatic Security's Office of Intelligence and Threat Analysis (DS/ITA)
      ...

      Mr. Gorman has also served as the Senior Regional Security Officer (RSO) in Moscow, Russia (2014-2016); the Senior Deputy RSO in Baghdad, Iraq (2013-2014); the RSO in Amman, Jordan (2010-2013); the Deputy RSO in Beijing, China; threat analyst in DS/ITA (2004-2006); the RSO in Almaty, Kazakhstan (2002-2004); the RSO in Yerevan, Armenia (2001-2002); and an Assistant RSO in Moscow, Russia (1999-2001).

      His first assignment as a special agent was in the New York Field Office (1999)."


      https://www.state.gov/biographies/bartle-b-gorman/

      Most recently, Mr. Gorman was promoted to Director of the Diplomatic Security's Office of Intelligence and Threat Analysis, abbr. DS/ITA.
      ...

      Mr. Gorman served as Senior Regional Security Officer (RSO) in Moscow, Russia (2014-2016); Senior Deputy RSO in Baghdad, Iraq (2013-2014); RSO in Amman, Jordan (2010 - 2013); Deputy RSO in Beijing, China; Analyst at DS/ITA (2004-2006); RSO in Almaty, Kazakhstan (2002-2004); RSO in Yerevan, Armenia (2001-2002); and RSO assistant in Moscow, Russia (1999-2001).

      His first assignment as a special agent was in the New York field office (1999).

      An intelligence specialist in its purest, uncomplicated form.
      1. Well done
        Well done 17 February 2022 18: 17
        +2
        That is why all these envoys refrained from commenting.
      2. Avior
        Avior 18 February 2022 09: 24
        -2
        Rather, to ensure the safety of the embassy, ​​judging by the materials you cited. Although this automatically assumes intelligence.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 18 February 2022 09: 31
          0
          Quote: Avior
          Rather, to ensure the safety of the embassy, ​​judging by the materials you cited.

          What could such a telling service name mean?
          Precisely something related to strength of materials and calculations of the strength of structures.
          1. Avior
            Avior 18 February 2022 09: 47
            -2
            Director of Diplomatic Security Intelligence and Threat Analysis (DS/ITA)
            ...

            Mr. Gorman also served as Senior Regional Security Officer (RSO) in Moscow, Russia (2014-2014). 2016);

            Your translation is not entirely accurate.
            Diplomatic Security's Office of Intelligence and Threat Analysis

            translated as "Diplomatic Security Intelligence and Threat Analysis Directorate (DS / ITA)" - this is the security of the embassy.
            hi
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 18 February 2022 09: 51
              0
              Quote: Avior
              ensuring the security of the embassies

              I already wrote above what this service means.
              I do not pretend to be the only correct spelling.
              if this is not a cover for intelligence agents operating at the embassy, ​​then we can assume that this is an air purification and humidification service.
              1. Avior
                Avior 18 February 2022 10: 05
                -1
                A legal intelligence officer is a military attaché.
                Undercover diplomatic services should logically be scattered across departments, otherwise what kind of cover do they have?
                But the work of ensuring the security of the embassy automatically involves, among other things, intelligence.
                The diplomatic security service itself is not hidden. It is clear that he was not limited only to security issues.
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 18 February 2022 10: 17
                  0
                  Quote: Avior
                  work to ensure the security of the embassy automatically involves, among other things, intelligence

                  then what are you arguing about?
                  Quote: Avior
                  The diplomatic security service itself is not hidden.

                  moreover - in the conditions of work in another state as part of the diplomatic mission. service intelligence officer is unable to hide his identity
                  they are all under constant surveillance
                  this is the rules of the game
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 18 February 2022 10: 44
                    -2
                    about the accuracy of translation that changes accents. He is a specialist in the security of the work of the diplomatic service.
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding 18 February 2022 10: 46
                      0
                      Quote: Avior
                      about the accuracy of translation that changes accents. He is a specialist in the security of the work of the diplomatic service.

                      accent has not changed one iota

                      Quote: Flood
                      Office of Intelligence and Threat Analysis of the Diplomatic Security Service (Diplomatic Security's Office of Intelligence and Threat Analysis, abbr. DS / ITA)


                      intelligence and threat analysis
                      understand this phrase as a whole, without breaking it into separate components

                      what did you change with your clarification? reconnaissance was cancelled. activities of this person in question?
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 18 February 2022 11: 21
                        -1
                        with the correct translation, the goals of intelligence change dramatically. This is reconnaissance in order to ensure the security of the work of the embassy, ​​and its forms and methods differ.
                        For example, such intelligence involves contacts with the intelligence services of the host country - ensuring security is also their task, so the goals and objectives coincide.
                      2. Flooding
                        Flooding 18 February 2022 11: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Avior
                        This is intelligence in order to ensure the security of the embassy, ​​and its forms and methods differ

                        I understood you.
                        Do you think that the service should have been called clearly and understandably - the CIA department
                      3. Avior
                        Avior 18 February 2022 11: 30
                        -1
                        it follows from your posts that it is you who think so - to put them together and name them accordingly.
                        There is the CIA, and there is the Diplomatic Security's Office - different services with different tasks in general, although partially overlapping.
                        The first works under diplomatic cover, the second openly.
                      4. Flooding
                        Flooding 18 February 2022 11: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Avior
                        it follows from your posts that it is you who think so - to put them together and name them accordingly.


                        confirm
                        without going beyond the accepted rules of the game
                        all employees of foreign embassies are constantly under the gun of the special services

                        but good. let it be your way.
                        This is the embassy's security service, which ensures the security of movement and screening of persons at the entrance.

                        which, according to you, is somehow connected with intelligence, but its employees are not intelligence officers.

                        Real scouts work as clerks in the finance department.
                        all the best.
                2. Flooding
                  Flooding 18 February 2022 10: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Avior
                  Undercover diplomatic services should logically be scattered across departments, otherwise what kind of cover do they have?

                  my logic says that in this way to hide intelligence. activities are much more difficult.
                  Since this activity will have to be additionally hidden from ordinary colleagues and at the same time also perform normal work so as not to stand out from their number.
                  Too smart.
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 18 February 2022 10: 45
                    -1
                    and if the embassy has a special department for intelligence and other espionage, then other employees will not understand what they are doing there? :)
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding 18 February 2022 10: 49
                      0
                      Quote: Avior
                      and if the embassy has a special department for intelligence and other espionage, then other employees will not understand what they are doing there? :)

                      everyone understands everything
                      but such an organization allows you to carry out activities in a more covert mode

                      without any emoticons
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 18 February 2022 11: 14
                        -2
                        what kind of secret mode, if the sign is standing - espionage department?
                        and in the regular department, they said that he works on the instructions of the head of the department, so he has little connection with other employees.
                      2. Flooding
                        Flooding 18 February 2022 11: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Avior
                        what kind of secret mode, if the sign is standing - espionage department?

                        This sign is also illuminated with neon lights.
                        Quote: Avior
                        A legal intelligence officer is a military attaché.

                        this does not interfere with the collection of information, if you follow the accepted rules of the game
                        Quote: Avior
                        in a regular department - they said that he works at the direction of the head of the department, so he has little connection with other employees

                        you should write spy novels
                      3. Avior
                        Avior 18 February 2022 11: 46
                        -1
                        this does not interfere with the collection of information, if you follow the accepted rules of the game

                        He has his own methods. Again, this is a channel for official contacts through the military and intelligence.
                        you should write spy novels

                        life experience interferes with imagination. When you try to come up with something, you see why it will not work :)))
                      4. Flooding
                        Flooding 18 February 2022 12: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Avior
                        He has his own methods. Again, this is a channel for official contacts through the military and intelligence.

                        you, of course, know better what methods the military attaches have
                        don't share confidential information here.

                        the only thing is that one of your statements contradicts another

                        but don't bother

                        Quote: Avior
                        life experience interferes with imagination.

                        surprisingly
                        it is the human imagination that drives this world
                      5. Flooding
                        Flooding 18 February 2022 12: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Avior
                        what kind of secret mode, if the sign is standing - espionage department?
                        and in the regular department, they said that he works on the instructions of the head of the department, so he has little connection with other employees.



                        In particular, employees responsible for security at the embassy, ​​employees of intelligence organizations. All of them have a special diplomatic education and are full members of the embassy...
                        The United States has 17 independent intelligence organizations, which is a unique phenomenon in international diplomatic practice.
                        ...

                        “We traditionally have a very high system of training counterintelligence officers. We know by surname who, where, when, what, in which countries he was before,” Astakhov emphasized.

                        The problem is different: counterintelligence officers need to prove that this or that diplomat is really a spy. It is not always possible to hit the mark, there are very gross mistakes that are associated with the human factor, Astakhov specified. A person can be expelled on legitimate grounds only if he “slips through” and is caught red-handed.


                        that way:
                        https://360tv.ru/news/tekst/razvedchiki/
                      6. Avior
                        Avior 18 February 2022 12: 42
                        0
                        In particular, the staff responsible for security at the embassy

                        I wrote about it from the very beginning
                        Rather, to ensure the safety of the embassy, ​​judging by the materials you cited. Although this automatically assumes intelligence.

                        you argue for the sake of argument.
                        I will not bother you
                        hi
                      7. Flooding
                        Flooding 18 February 2022 12: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Avior
                        I wrote about it from the very beginning

                        Astakhov speaks of them as intelligence officers. services.
                        About these same security officers.
                        Your opinion pales in comparison to the opinion of a specialist.

                        I immediately asked you to make your reservations clearer.
                        "no, they are not scouts. but their service does not exclude intelligence"
                        I don't understand it
                        somehow cleverly wrapped
  7. 210ox
    210ox 17 February 2022 17: 49
    +12
    Well, sent and sent. This bucket needs to be cleaned out. And in St. Petersburg and Yekaterinburg. Who cares about the United States and trips there, go to Warsaw.
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 17 February 2022 17: 58
      +14
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, sent and sent.

      The Telegraph writes that Vladimir Putin has scored another major geopolitical victory over the US and Europe. Of course, there is a certain amount of purely journalistic hype and the desire to give birth to some kind of sensation, but there is also a big piece of truth. First, Putin has shown the world how to actually start and win a war without even starting one. The West is tense and confused: it is not clear what can be expected from Russia tomorrow, but yelling every day that it "is about to attack" already looks like complete idiocy. Secondly, Putin exposed Western leaders to the whole world as simply ridiculous idiots who yelled for a month: "Russia! War! Putin!" and named specific dates, but no one came to the war. Now the topic of Ukraine is somewhere at the very end of the political agenda and will only go down.
      Thirdly, Ukraine, as a result, found itself in a complete "reverse point" (censor): damage to reputation and economy, no prospects for joining NATO and the EU, and it is generally not clear who controls the country when 90% of officials and deputies just ran away from the "terrible Putin".
      In short, GDP outplayed everyone again.
      1. nnm
        nnm 17 February 2022 18: 13
        -17
        Colleague, can you clarify on specific points that GDP won so brilliantly?
        1. What else is funny? They live in their own paradigm, where there is practically no other opinion, on the contrary, in their reality they led to the fact that the West scared us and we did not start a war
        2. Well, what are you talking about 90% of the runaway officials and deputies? Well, write right away that 146% fled.

        For myself, I see that Russia is playing at a second pace only justifying itself for what it was not going to do. For me, we got one delayed, but very important plus - we showed third countries that the United States is not omnipotent and it is possible to survive. And in the long run, it can give us new allies.
        But the fact that our old European partners somehow distanced themselves from developing relations with us in the short term is also a fact.

        But when I read about genius, I wonder - do you really think so and really believe that you are very different from the screamers on the other side?
        Well, don’t list it in general, like “he showed that you can win a war without starting it ...” well, what exactly is victory, specifically? What did we not have at the beginning of the conflict and what have we gained now? We were not going to attack initially, so what did we get?
        And I ask, only without slogans
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 17 February 2022 19: 14
          +11
          Quote: nnm
          Well, what are you talking about 90% of the runaway officials and deputies? Well, write right away that 146% fled.


          Quote: nnm
          They live in their own paradigm, where there is practically no other opinion, on the contrary, in their reality they led to the fact that the West scared us and we did not start a war

          Yes, yes, yes ... Therefore, out of fright, we suffered the "invasion" (according to their data wink) on February 20-22...
          Quote: nnm
          Well, don’t list it in general, like “he showed that you can win a war without starting it ...” well, what exactly is victory, specifically? What did we not have at the beginning of the conflict and what have we gained now?

          It's trite... We have Belarusians who are ready to fight with the Ukrainians, in a place with us. wink
          We have a hard blow to the Ukrainian economy. They were all there, vying with each other, squealing, don't escalate panic... Do you need screenshots? I'll drop it.
          We, the people in the Donbass, have shown that if anything happens, Russia will not leave.
          Quote: nnm
          We were not going to attack initially, so what did we get?

          We were not going to, others were going to... And we just made it clear that if they try, then we will enter the territory of Ukraine wherever we want. angry
          1. nnm
            nnm 17 February 2022 20: 15
            -11
            Clearly ... one boltology and slogans ....
            Sorry, but in this vein, the dialogue is absolutely not interesting to me. Sincerely hi
          2. Avior
            Avior 18 February 2022 09: 36
            0
            The picture you have is a clumsy fake slapped by someone. February 14 - Monday, on this day no meeting of the Verkhovna Rada was planned, moreover, on Mondays, meetings of the Verkhovna Rada are not held at all.
            https://iportal.rada.gov.ua/meeting/awt
            In order to lie like that in the 21st century, when everything is easily verified, as the author of the fake you cited, you really need to consider your readers as complete mugs.
            hi
  8. Shahno
    Shahno 17 February 2022 17: 53
    -5
    Quote: 210ox
    Well, sent and sent. This bucket needs to be cleaned out. And in St. Petersburg and Yekaterinburg. Who cares about the United States and trips there, go to Warsaw.

    Che, Moscow is not bad?. They say no worse than ours.
  9. Emergency
    Emergency 17 February 2022 17: 54
    +7
    "The ice has broken, gentlemen of the jury!" (With) laughing In terms of
  10. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 17 February 2022 17: 55
    +7
    I sent an ambassador and made a statement ... This is a "coincidence"
    ------
    The Foreign Ministry issued a statement following the transmission of the US response:

    ▪️The United States "twisted" Russia's proposals on security guarantees in the direction of creating advantages for Washington and its allies, ignored the package nature of the proposals, choosing topics convenient for itself

    ▪️Our response emphasized the unacceptability of demands to withdraw troops from certain areas in Russia

    ▪️to de-escalate around Ukraine, Kyiv needs to comply with the Minsk agreements, stop deliveries of weapons to Ukraine and withdraw those already supplied, withdraw all Western advisers and instructors, and NATO abandon exercises with Ukraine

    ▪️Russia in response insists on the withdrawal of all US forces and weapons from Central and Eastern Europe and the Baltics

    ▪️Russia expects concrete proposals from the US and NATO on the content and forms of the alliance's legal refusal to expand to the east

    ▪️Arms control issues cannot be considered separately from other topics of guarantees. (This is a very interesting point) bully
    ----
    Eh, where are my throwing daggers? I'll go warm up... I'll sweep...
    1. Ural resident
      Ural resident 17 February 2022 19: 06
      +1
      Quote: Tank jacket
      I sent an ambassador and made a statement ... This is a "coincidence"
      ------
      The Foreign Ministry issued a statement following the transmission of the US response:

      ▪️The United States "twisted" Russia's proposals on security guarantees in the direction of creating advantages for Washington and its allies, ignored the package nature of the proposals, choosing topics convenient for itself

      ▪️Our response emphasized the unacceptability of demands to withdraw troops from certain areas in Russia

      ▪️to de-escalate around Ukraine, Kyiv needs to comply with the Minsk agreements, stop deliveries of weapons to Ukraine and withdraw those already supplied, withdraw all Western advisers and instructors, and NATO abandon exercises with Ukraine

      ▪️Russia in response insists on the withdrawal of all US forces and weapons from Central and Eastern Europe and the Baltics

      ▪️Russia expects concrete proposals from the US and NATO on the content and forms of the alliance's legal refusal to expand to the east

      ▪️Arms control issues cannot be considered separately from other topics of guarantees. (This is a very interesting point) bully
      ----
      Eh, where are my throwing daggers? I'll go warm up... I'll sweep...

      I love throwing knives too...
  11. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 17 February 2022 17: 59
    +4
    Come on, ichthyander...
    It is a pity that it is impossible to ship such a life-giving pendal. I would love to write and implement. Here would be a picture)
  12. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 17 February 2022 18: 01
    +2
    How tired of the stupidity of the American scale. Dog disease, like a virus, spreads very quickly.
  13. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 February 2022 18: 08
    +7
    “We call on Russia to stop the unjustified expulsions of American diplomats and employees and work productively to restore our missions,” the US diplomatic mission emphasized.

    I wonder who started first. Anglo-Saxon, shameless arrogance.
  14. Dikson
    Dikson 17 February 2022 18: 09
    0
    Blocked the leak of information at the highest level? Judging by the swiftness of what happened, the American made someone in the Kremlin very angry... Maybe they let him go in vain? Or it’s too late to drink Borjomi .. In general, nothing has ended, but it only wraps up more steeply ..
  15. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 17 February 2022 18: 10
    +1
    I think that Gorman was expelled for threatening to deport Antonov if we don't give visas to 4 of Ambassador Sullivan's guards. Blackmail must be stopped. The State Department has already squealed for the electorate.
  16. BABAY22
    BABAY22 17 February 2022 18: 55
    +8
    Well, one less spy.
  17. Autocorrect
    Autocorrect 17 February 2022 19: 22
    -2
    There he is dear.
  18. Looking for
    Looking for 17 February 2022 19: 30
    +1
    apparently the CIA-shnik was pierced specifically
  19. gsev
    gsev 17 February 2022 20: 18
    +5
    Quote: lis-ik
    Yes. This creature pissed off everything that is possible.

    Lavrov won the Crimea. Few diplomats have achieved such success. Hence the clumsy attempts to accuse Lavrov of all sins ...
  20. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 17 February 2022 20: 31
    -5
    An exchange of blows began. But the weight categories are different, and not in our favor. Haven't gained weight in 20 years.
  21. sanya_sergant
    sanya_sergant 17 February 2022 20: 56
    +8
    Russia sent an ambassador from the American embassy
  22. Radikal
    Radikal 17 February 2022 23: 17
    -6
    Quote: alystan
    Well, I specifically put some words in quotation marks.
    After all, it is known who is put in secondary roles in embassies in the Foreign Ministry.
    We waited for the right moment and "covered" the agents.
    Yes, and he "inherited" notably in his former places of work!

    Do you have confirmation, invoice? what
  23. Radikal
    Radikal 17 February 2022 23: 25
    -6
    Quote: gsev
    Quote: lis-ik
    Yes. This creature pissed off everything that is possible.

    Lavrov won the Crimea. Few diplomats have achieved such success. Hence the clumsy attempts to accuse Lavrov of all sins ...

    Then there is a proposal to give this Armenian the title of Lavrov Krymsky! And Voopche, to all other members of the state and other bodies of the Order of Heroes of All Times and Peoples! Here they will drag and sour vodka!
  24. Kapany3
    Kapany3 18 February 2022 10: 01
    0
    Quote: lis-ik
    Quote: Thrifty
    Lavrov at the meeting said "yes, you are the ambassador", and

    That's exactly what's real, he can't say anything more! There is no worse minister!

    Twice "LIZ ..." is credited judging by the minuses
  25. iouris
    iouris 18 February 2022 11: 26
    0
    His accreditation ended long ago, he missed the States and begged "Lavrov's colleague" to send him.
  26. 1536
    1536 18 February 2022 15: 08
    0
    How the Americans have everything is interesting. Even in the embassy in Russia there is a "top management staff". Where is democracy? Wouldn't it have been easier to say that another American consigliere had been expelled? What is there to be ashamed of now.
  27. xomaNN
    xomaNN 18 February 2022 18: 24
    0
    Yankos following the example of u..cr. folklore is now "... and mine for sho ???"
    They themselves are only accustomed to gossip in other ambassadors and consuls, and here they are with the same end wassat
  28. AML
    AML 19 February 2022 16: 16
    0
    Quote: Avior
    The picture you have is a clumsy fake slapped by someone. February 14 - Monday, on this day no meeting of the Verkhovna Rada was planned, moreover, on Mondays, meetings of the Verkhovna Rada are not held at all.
    https://iportal.rada.gov.ua/meeting/awt
    In order to lie like that in the 21st century, when everything is easily verified, as the author of the fake you cited, you really need to consider your readers as complete mugs.
    hi



    A closed meeting in the Rada was postponed to February 14, Danilov will chair


    https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2022/02/13/7323828/


    /me settled comfortably on the couch.