The State Duma adopted a law on the indexation of pensions for military pensioners from January 1, 2022

The government will index the pensions of military pensioners and persons equated to them, the corresponding law was adopted by deputies of the State Duma in the first reading and as a whole. This was reported on the official website of the State Duma.

According to the adopted law, the indexation of military pensions will be 8,6%, while earlier it was reported about plans to raise pensions for military pensioners by 4%. The recalculation will be made from January 1, 2022, and not from October 1, as previously assumed. The indexation proposal came from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

As explained, the initial proposal to raise pensions by 1% from October 4 was rejected, as the actual annual inflation significantly exceeded the proposed increase. At the end of last year, inflation was 8,4%.

The adopted decision will allow indexing (...) pensions of military pensioners and persons equated to them, including those who served in the internal affairs bodies, the Russian Guard, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other law enforcement agencies (...) pensions will be recalculated from January 1, 2022

said State Duma Chairman Vyacheslav Volodin.

The government bill on indexation of pensions for military pensioners, submitted to the State Duma on February 10, was considered by the State Duma Defense Committee on February 15 and unanimously recommended for adoption in the first reading and in general, which happened today at the plenary session. The adopted law will affect about 2,6 million people.

It should be noted that the budget included an increase in pensions by only 4%, so additional expenses in 2022-2024 will amount to 154,3 billion rubles.

Comments

[Pytnik]

Until March 1, will they have time to count?

[nnm]

Yes, there is nothing to count. A coefficient is entered into the program and orders with the general list are sent to the savings account. Money is sent to Sberbank from Moscow on the first working day of the month, crediting to PM + 1-2 days.
There are exceptions, but rarely. So they will count and pay in time.

[dedusik]

So the Federation Council and Putin must sign

[nnm]

In fact, at such moments, everything is already ready, the recalculation has been made, only the lists were not sent to the savings before the signing of the law.

[prior]

And indexation, as always, applies only to non-working military pensioners?
Or will they throw working military pensioners in the same way as civilian working pensioners? Left without indexing.
Fucking scammers.

[Stas Snezhin]

Quite right. Somehow, this point is not very clear.

[faterdom]

I explain: civilian pensioners are robbed more than those who work. That is, they stupidly do not index their pension from about the 15th year, not forgetting, however, from the bottom to take the social tax to the pension fund !!!
It is easier with military pensioners - they rob everyone with a chokh, cutting off the legal amount of the pension by a certain "coefficient" that the guarantor appoints by his decree every year. You can either work or not work. The motive is the following - it will be bold, if according to the law. So, better not according to the law, but not fat!

[Stas Snezhin]

Excuse me, what language are you writing in?
Google refuses to translate it..

[faterdom]

Once again briefly.
There are different pension laws for the military (siloviki) and civilians.
And the military pension is being cut for everyone. They started with a cut of 46%, now it is 24%.
Not because you work there or not, just because you are a military pensioner.
Civil pensioners are punished with a ruble for the fact that they work. The unemployed are not yet punished, it’s just that now not everyone is taken into pensioners by age.

[Stas Snezhin]

Hello colleague. I will say right away that I did not see your previously published comment.
So, it seems that no one has cut my pension yet. I am a major, and so far there have only been little additions. So sorry, what's the question?

[faterdom]

There is a law on military pensions. Position-title-length of service and up to 85% of these figures at the maximum (with a length of service of 32 kopecks a year).
So by law.
But from the 12th year, the president issues a decree on the eve of the new year, how many percent of this estimated pension, according to the law, will be paid to you next year. Started with 54%, now 74%.
That is, you are entitled to 1,0 pensions under the law, but a decree is issued every year to cut it, and seriously. A kind of income tax of 26%.
By the way, such percentages are not cut off from judges', deputy's or governor's pensions.

[Stas Snezhin]

I apologize for the question .. but you, Andrey, are probably somehow closely informed with some accruals of payments ..?

[faterdom]

Decrees are published in a timely manner on the Kremlin website. RU.
And I'm retired for six years now.
But when I was a commander, I had to delve into and explain to subordinate officers, sign their pension calculations.

[Stas Snezhin]

Understood. And I'm on military pension for the fourth year. Experience 22 years. I just don't understand all these things.

[nnm]

This cannot be. Most likely, you could sign calculations for a percentage allowance for military personnel who are serving but have reached retirement age (it was already canceled more than 10 years ago).
And for everyone, a different order is calculated by the military registration and enlistment office. And no calculations from RF are used. In some cases, the calculation was made in the financial service of the district (and then, more often they considered the length of service to be controversial), or in the Main Directorate of the Moscow Region (if they set salaries above the category of the position held).

[faterdom]

I did not accrue pensions, but sent the settlement data, which go to the dismissal order, behind my signature and personnel. Accordingly, with those who quit, they calculated what and how it would be from these numbers. A couple of times I stopped rash jumps when a person tried to quit a week before the right to retire (the future employer hurried him), or when a month was not enough for the northern pension to be preserved when moving to warmer climes.

[nnm]

I’ll tell you a secret)))) no one even looked at your calculations)))) the length of service, which is indicated in the order for dismissal, is not taken into account at all when calculating a pension)))) only those calculations that I wrote about. And jumps, and classiness, and POR, and so on, only the military registration and enlistment office counts everything for retirement))

[faterdom]

You don't have to tell me the "secret". Without these numbers, my papers would have been wrapped back, with a strict reprimand to the heap. and the dismissal order simply would not have taken place at the right time.
Accordingly, nothing would have been received by the military commissariat pension department either.
So, do not try to catch me on something - I did my job duties, nothing more. And no less.
He helped subordinates to understand this nonsense of all kinds of laws, where they are not aware.

[nnm]

Once again, it is the personnel who need your calculation in order to indicate length of service in the dismissal order. To calculate the pension, it is not used from the word "absolutely". It, in 99% of cases, is not even in the first copy of the personal file, which is used to calculate the pension. It is attached only to the second copy, which is not even sent to the regional military registration and enlistment office.

[nnm]

Colleague, I know.

[Stas Snezhin]

By the way Andrew, you are right. I have a friend (civilian) pensioner. After all, he quit his job especially before the New Year, so that his pension was raised, as if he were a non-working pensioner.
Some kind of nonsense .. If you don’t work, then you get benefits.
And if you are trying to bring more benefit to the country, then Fuck ...

[nnm]

For military pensioners, this does not matter. The allowance for working pensioners is paid only to civilians.

[dedusik]

All military pensioners, there is no word about working there

[Stas Snezhin]

It's clear. Thanks for the clarification.

[prior]

The same was said about civilian pensioners.
And it turned out only when the pension for February was transferred.
Working civilian pensioners with indexation were simply thrown.
Do you think military working pensioners are any better?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

This is called "shaking off the Russian army" !!!
Or maybe it's because we sing a little:
God save the king?!

[Thrifty]

Another fairy tale! Civilians have already been “indexed” by 8 percent, adding 230-305 rubles in fact!

[dedusik]

So it is the insurance pensions of non-working pensioners that have increased social

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Thrifty

Another fairy tale! Civilians have already been “indexed” by 8 percent, adding 230-305 rubles in fact!

At the minimum, I think they raised it by 1000 rubles. Don't underestimate. Even with a pension of 10 thousand, it will be 860 rubles. This is a minuscule, of course, I agree with you on this.

[Thrifty]

A, K, Vichyakow - a woman with a disability of the second group lives nearby, The pension was 15230 rubles, it became 15505 rubles! I saw the sheet with numbers myself, can you read it? !

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Thrifty

A, K, Vichyakow - a woman with a disability of the second group lives nearby, The pension was 15230 rubles, it became 15505 rubles! I saw the sheet with numbers myself, can you read it? !

Tomorrow I'll find out from people, unsubscribe.

[Xnumx vis]

I report to you with full responsibility. My wife had a pension of 15690 .. It became 17039 so that ... don't la la!!

[Thrifty]

30vis-former head of the SEB in the company where I received 18200 pensions on an unofficial basis, now 18440-vis 30, that's it, no need la la !!!!!

[Xnumx vis]

Your artistic whistle is ridiculous.. Pensioners do not get higher pensions for working pensioners. you didn't know that?

[Xnumx vis]

Whistlers .. piss in ... There's a bigger hole!

[Old Michael]

Civilians have already been "indexed" by 8 percent, adding in fact 230-305 rubles!

[zloybond]

Everyone was waiting for the recognition of the republics, but here SUCH !!!! in short, off topic. So that they do not notice that they deceived the hopes of almost a million people

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

Another fairy tale! Civilians have already been "indexed" by 8 percent,

Raised, but still it's a fairy tale? What exactly? That's just to throw manure.

[Bessik]

In stores, price tags and a communal apartment were also sketched out with manure

[Sergey Nikiforov]

The Federation Council will meet only on March 2. Think about it. And it’s easy to recount

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Pytnik

Until March 1, will they have time to count?

They promised until February 23 ... Let's see ...

The State Duma adopted a law on the indexation of pensions for military pensioners from January 1, 2022

They would have recalculated the accrual since 2012 ... Well, at least the recalculation for January 1 was postponed, like for civilians ...

[datur]

as always, no! and then forget!

[Ingvar 72]

At the end of last year, inflation was 8,4%.

I'm wondering, when were "our" deputies in the store for the last time?

[nnm]

Yes, they walk all the time! Armani, Bugatti, Rolex....)))

[The black]

I'm wondering, when were "our" deputies in the store for the last time?

You don't have to talk to them... Boutiques are constantly flying

[alone]

Quote: Ingvar 72

I'm wondering, when were "our" deputies in the store for the last time?

I don’t know about shops, but recently during a meeting they complained about prices in the Duma canteen .. Not enough 450 rubles for lunch

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: lonely

but recently during a meeting they complained about the prices in the Duma canteen ..

I saw the price list for dishes in this dining room. My wife's cost is more expensive!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ingvar 72

At the end of last year, inflation was 8,4%.

I'm wondering, when were "our" deputies in the store for the last time?

Everything is correct. Bread and butter rose in price, while diamonds and yachts fell in price.

[The black]

I think where to go on vacation now: to the Canary Islands or to the Maldives .... with such money

[nnm]

I think to leave the children at the institute, or buy an apartment ...
Yes, that seems to be enough. Now it’s not even clear where to put the wads of money.

[Kushka]

There lived an old man and an old woman.
The old woman says to her grandfather
- Grandfather, we seem to have children.
-Still would! Tomorrow after all pension will bring.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: nnm

Now it’s not even clear where to put the wads of money.

Did you watch UE or Russian grandmas?

[Thrifty]

Black - to the dacha, just call it "villa", "cottage", "mansion"!

[The black]

Black - to the dacha, just call it "villa", "cottage", "mansion"!

hmm .... lock

[fiberboard]

Now it is necessary to transfer pensions into oshfors, launder capital. Smart people do this.

[Aag]

Quote: fiberboard

Now it is necessary to transfer pensions into oshfors, launder capital. Smart people do this.

Apparently (judging by the minuses), not everyone appreciated the joke of humor ... (((

[nnm]

And I have another proposal - let's discuss today's statement by Peskov that the president believes that the appeal adopted yesterday by the State Duma to recognize the independence of the LDNR does not correspond to Minsk -2 and this issue is not being discussed yet.
That is, yesterday we waved a carrot in front of more than a million people who have been living in a state of war for the eighth year, and now into the bushes?
What kind of political game is this with people's lives?! No shame, no conscience left, right?

[Thrifty]

nnm-so after all, there is business in the first place! Why they didn’t let them take Mariupol-Akhmetov called the Kremlin, asked and demanded to stop the offensive of the Republicans. Here, too, business, not according to the Kremlin, if that land rockets fly. By the way, the Kremlin waved carrots in front of the Russian layman with might and main, and then they simply threw it, yes, into the bushes ...

[nnm]

Yeah .... just a shame!
It's a shame for such games of politicians.

[Thrifty]

nnm-zatl someone raised their rating with this beautiful fairy tale, or, raised it higher than the plinth to look ...

[alone]

Quote: nnm

What kind of political game is this with people's lives?! No shame, no conscience left, right?

Shame, conscience and politics?

[Thrifty]

lonely-everything is possible in politics, although not for everyone!!

[alone]

Quote: Thrifty

lonely-everything is possible in politics, although not for everyone!!

Well, look for shame in politicians, and even more so conscience, I won’t drink so much!

[Dzerjinskiy56]

Very briefly: Putin plays further in "Minsk", the Duma also creates a kind of ebullient activity!!! Judging by the silence of the Dumtsev, this is just a performance.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

that you are so impatient to drive a wave, about the fact that Putin has lied?

[hagen]

Quote: nnm

That is, yesterday we waved a carrot in front of more than a million people who have been living in a state of war for the eighth year, and now into the bushes?

What they waved in front of people is just a preparation for the last peaceful argument to keep Ze from rushing to Donetsk. And the fact that this blank is on the President’s desk shows that a decision on a possibly not at all peaceful reaction from Putin can follow almost instantly at the start of an offensive operation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I think that in the stack with this blank there are other documents that have not yet been signed by him, forming a military and military-technical response to a provocation, to which we cannot fail to respond. Therefore, I would advise you not to hurry with a reminder of conscience. There, they have it no less than you. Only behind their decisions, unlike yours, are the lives of millions of fellow citizens really worth .... I propose to wait a bit with critical assessments.

[keeper03]

And it’s weak to act on preemption ?!

[nnm]

And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions? Or limit your content?

[bober1982]

Quote: nnm

And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions?

Then pensions will become simply prohibitive, by our standards, of course.
Yesterday, a naval aviator shared his memories, casually mentioned the monthly allowance, which caused some misunderstanding among a number of readers, let's say.
If you voice the current military pensions, this will cause not only misunderstanding, but anger.
And, with the abolition of this coefficient, pensions will become cosmic, and even here everything is simple - there is no money, where to get it. Any military pensioner, in the words of the great coach V. Lobanovsky, is a waste material, and so it was under any government.

[nnm]

Understand. But I want people to understand that they should not want someone else to receive less, but that everyone else would receive a decent pension.
But in fact, even the pilots and seafarers, in fact, would receive not so huge pensions in terms of dollars. Or taking into account the price of what health losses they were given to them.

[dedusik]

Quote: nnm

And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions? Or limit your content?

So it has already been raised by 0.00 horseradish tenths of a percent, but the recalculation has already been done.

[nnm]

Apparently, this is such a huge amount that I did not even notice. Probably just increased by a few digits.

[dedusik]

Oh, within a hundred In the pension, they said that in order to receive money at Sberbank, I drove a KAMAZ truck, otherwise you won’t be able to take it away

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: dedusik

Quote: nnm

And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions? Or limit your content?

So it has already been raised by 0.00 horseradish tenths of a percent, but the recalculation has already been done.

Quote: nnm

Apparently, this is such a huge amount that I did not even notice. Probably just increased by a few digits.

As much as 103 full-fledged rubles fell on my card. Not even enough for a pack of cigarettes.

[Thrifty]

nnm- I look at the "holy", have you coveted? You also propose to cancel tattooed immunity

[Stepan S]

By the way, the increase in pensions just provides for the very increase in pensions by 4%, as was determined by the budget, and an increase in the reduction coefficient to 77,41%

"As a result, we have achieved an increase in the so-called "reducing factor". From October 1, 2022, it will be 77,41 percent"

A mechanism has also been developed to increase such charges. First, a monthly supplement of 8,6 percent of the assigned pension will be established. It will be charged from January 1 to October 1 of this year. Then, as it was supposed earlier, military pensions will increase by 1 percent from October 4. This will happen simultaneously with a 4 percent indexation of the monetary allowance of military personnel.

The next step will be an increase in military pension payments in two "streams". For those retirees who parted with shoulder straps before 2012 and after a serious increase in monetary allowance in the army fell under the so-called "reducing factor", the share of monetary allowance taken into account when calculating military pensions will be raised from the current 74 to 77,41 percent. And retirees-veterans will establish a monthly supplement to the pension in the amount of 4,6 percent.

[Aag]

Quote: nnm

And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions? Or limit your content?

You know, I also have a lot of questions. But let's, please, at least here, without populism, in essence ...
I can understand you - sometimes you yourself "tears" to pieces from the "multi-vector" statements of officials.
Just... - Our talking shop ... - at best (for the authorities, - in the first place, - "steam release").

[nnm]

And I see it differently - you can not be silent. It is impossible for people to sit and think that they alone think so, it is impossible for the authorities to think that everything is submissive to their "drawing" of elections, laws are adopted, you cannot just be silent. After all, in the beginning there was a word ...

[Nest]

But let's, without populism from 8%, just raise the pension of all the military by 5 thousand rubles? From lieutenant to general. The same money will leave the budget, since the junior staff of 8% is miserable crumbs, and for generals - 8% is significant. And for many years they played with these percentages. In fact, the increase in pensions in monetary terms for the senior staff was much higher than the rest. That's until they remove all these limiting coefficients - to raise everyone by a fixed amount. Another point (maybe someone does not know this). The usual major of the FSB, who served n.p. all his life in the accounting department of this respected organization, a pension of about 40 thousand rubles. They have already reduced this reduction factor a long time ago. I agree that the border guards (they seem to be included there) deserve an increased pension. But I do not agree that n.p. a lieutenant colonel or a major 25 years old, who have wandered around the garrisons, deserve 25-30 thousand, and for office workers the money was found in the budget, even in ranks much lower. So there is money in the budget, only they are divided by the right of the strong. Some of the top commanders "knocked out" benefits and a higher pension for their own, but some could not. Fair benefits for the military will be remembered only when the war is at the threshold.

[Bradley]

That's all great, but what about the prices? Maybe the government will take some measures to increase prices? To keep prices from going up...
Buckwheat norms 180 rubles! Have you fallen from the oak tree?
Payment for services for a hut, electricity, water (especially hot) is growing. And wages are not going up. If 10 years ago 80k really had money, today it is so, to go for bread.
The government is losing money because of the sanctions, but for some reason I have to pay...

[Thrifty]

Bradley, as one of our ??? officials said, "no one forces you to live"!

[Stepan S]

Ten years ago, Mr. "Bradley" had a normal salary of 80 rubles, and the vast majority in the country would be happy to work for such a salary even now. So his crying in Greek for 180 rubles does not look sincere.

[Bradley]

Ten years ago, Mr. "Bradley" had a normal salary of 80 rubles, and the vast majority in the country would be happy to work for such a salary even now.

How cleverly you juggle words.
If 10 years ago 80k was good money, it does not mean that I received that much.
But you're good, you'll go far.)

[Stepan S]

Buckwheat norms 180 rubles! Have you fallen from the oak tree?

Do you buy buckwheat in boutiques? We have twice the price of buckwheat.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Stepan S

Do you buy buckwheat in boutiques? We have twice the price of buckwheat.

Do you think that 90 rubles. - good price for buckwheat?

[Stepan S]

The economy is now global, we could not build communism. And the peasants also want to eat and will not sell buckwheat for three rubles.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Stepan S

And the peasants also want to eat and will not sell buckwheat for three rubles.

Aha ha ha! Where did you find peasants there? Or are you trying to pass off Mirotorg, Tkachev and other landowners as peasants? Have you heard of export duties? How is it that the Russian Federation is one of the leading exporters of wheat, and it is inside the country at such a price that it is not profitable to keep chickens for an egg?

Quote: Stepan S

The economy is now global, we could not build communism.

Well, let's start with the fact that you didn't build communism.))) And about the global economy, you tell this fairy tale somewhere else, otherwise I'll tell you now how it turns out that in the global economy, connecting gas to Pridnestrovie costs 150 $, and we have 250 thousand, prices in the Baltic states are 10-20% more expensive, and the average salary is $ 1500, and here Khusnulin whines that there are few migrants, and Russians have to pay 30-50% more. So, what about the global economy, in this context, you better not open your mouth!

[Repellent]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Do you think that 90 rubles. - good price for buckwheat?

It depends if you are buying or selling

I ask without offense - this is just a paraphrase of an old, like the world, anecdote ...

[Stas Snezhin]

Once upon a time I heard that in many countries they don’t eat buckwheat at all.
And here we are, eating. Perhaps the physiology is a little different ..

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Stas Snezhin

Once upon a time I heard that in many countries they don’t eat buckwheat at all.
And here we are, eating. Perhaps the physiology is a little different ..

All peoples have different food preferences, and not only peoples, in the Kuban, as well as in Ukraine, they love borscht, and in central Russia - cabbage soup, I once tried herring, Icelandic salting, so it is generally sweet, very unusual and unexpected .))) Some dishes of the northern peoples, such as rotten fish or meat, cannot be eaten without a habit at all, it is life-threatening.

[Stas Snezhin]

Yes, I completely agree with you. Surströmming, few people can master. Yes, and rotten fish in the carcass of a walrus ..))

PS From the memories.: The entire coast of the Krasnodar Territory completely passed, everything is fine. And for some reason, I liked the small quiet town of Slavyansk in the Kuban ..)) Good luck!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Stas Snezhin

And for some reason, I liked the small quiet town of Slavyansk in the Kuban ..))

This is because you have not been to Psebay.)))) Forest, mountains, trout in rivers, clean air. In the summer, children from the tourism section go to the sea, through the pass, about 70 km from the sea.

[Stas Snezhin]

You know, to be honest, for some reason I have never even heard about your interesting city before. Although, I have been to the Krasnodar Territory many times. So, thank you for a new interesting landmark ..))
If possible, I will definitely visit. Thank you very much !

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Stas Snezhin

You know, to be honest, for some reason I have never even heard about your interesting city before.

This is an urban-type settlement, under the USSR it was a resort of regional significance, camp sites, sanatoriums still remain. Knauf, you must have heard that we have it.

[Stas Snezhin]

Thank you very much from Siberia. Kuzbass. Novokuznetsk.

[Bradley]

Do you buy buckwheat in boutiques? We have twice the price of buckwheat.

At the grocery store. And yes, for 90 rubles you take buckwheat with husks.

[Stepan S]

And yes, for 90 rubles you take buckwheat with husks.

Here it is more visible with what I have buckwheat. But it is possible that all the vitamins are concentrated in the husk.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Stepan S

that in the husk just all the vitamins are concentrated.

And you try to take bran instead of cereals, you will have vitamins .....

[Kushka]

-Here I am 75 years old, and I feel like a student.
- What, girls are attracted to?
-No, I want to eat all the time.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Bradley

The government is losing money because of the sanctions, but for some reason I have to pay...

What do you think the Abramoviches, Potanins, members of the Ozero cooperative will pay? Do not wait, this is their state, it is their interests that this state protects. And it will send you somewhere to fight, Solovyov and Skobeeva will tell you how patriotic it is, because we are in the ring of enemies.))))

[Bradley]

What do you think the Abramoviches, Potanins, members of the Ozero cooperative will pay? Do not wait, this is their state, it is their interests that this state protects. And it will send you somewhere to fight, Solovyov and Skobeeva will tell you how patriotic it is, because we are in the ring of enemies.))))

And don't argue.

[Aag]

Quote: Bradley

That's all great, but what about the prices? Maybe the government will take some measures to increase prices? To keep prices from going up...
Buckwheat norms 180 rubles! Have you fallen from the oak tree?
Payment for services for a hut, electricity, water (especially hot) is growing. And wages are not going up. If 10 years ago 80k really had money, today it is so, to go for bread.
The government is losing money because of the sanctions, but for some reason I have to pay...

Now they will tell you that you chose the government ...))).

[16112014nk]

The assistants to the deputies had their salaries indexed from 300 to 000 rubles. Almost 387%. The real amount of inflation.
The rest of the pensioners had to add 12,9%.
But our guarantor ordered 8,6%. ..."with a slight gap".

[Hey]

The assistants to the deputies had their salaries indexed from 300 to 000 rubles.

387000 rub. allocated for 7 assistants, of which 2 in the Duma 5 in the regions from which the deputy was elected. Of course, he can have either more assistants or less and distribute this amount as he pleases. It may also have assistants on a voluntary basis. But as a rule, a deputy pays extra from his assistants.

[ODERVIT]

And I will not refuse indexing.

[Kushka]

In no case.
To pensioners who regularly pay for
utilities, tax will come
with a check - where does the money come from?

[Kushka]

[quote = dedusik] So the insurance pensions of non-working pensioners have also increased social [/ quote]
It was 2050
Two people are talking.
-Have you heard that there are people who are called pensioners?
- Heard, but no one has seen them yet.

[Aag]

[quote = Kushka][quote = dedusik] So the insurance pensions of non-working pensioners have also increased social [/ quote]
It was 2050
Two people are talking.
-Have you heard that there are people who are called pensioners?
- I heard, but no one has seen them yet. [/ Quote]

Do not downvote the author of this comment!
I don't think he set out to offend pensioners.
He draws the perspective seen by the economic bloc of "our" government ...)))

[zloybond]

This type April 1 !!!! Sehat with the topic of recognition of independence LDNR ????? The type of people shaval (PEOPLE), and did not notice how the conversation had gone from the republics of the theme ????

[Sir Galant]

not so simple. in the explanatory note such nonsense is written .... the mad printer distorted the direct and clear desire of the guarantor

[Dmitriy444]

Yes, they did not pervert anything, you need to think about it. They sent a paper from the government, pressed the buttons, that's it! After all, the chief ordered. I would look at how they perverted in the government, because here and from 01.01. and 01.10. and how to do it all, so as not to overpay, God forbid. Well, with an increase in the humiliating coefficient, you can sleep peacefully until the age of 24, but you were increased much more at 22, so enjoy life.

[iouris]

Just don't raise your pensions!

[sgr291158]

What can I say, it's better than nothing.

[fa2998]

Quote: dedusik

So the Federation Council and Putin must sign

And why is it so difficult? Duma, federation, president, if this provision is included in the Constitution (Basic Law), take the government and do it!
When the president needed to be "zeroed out", this amendment was also made to the Constitution. Pensioners rushed to vote. It turns out that we have pensioners of the 1st grade, 2,3nd, XNUMXrd grade.

[dnestr74]

And the hell is it necessary? Are there any specific laws? The circus is populist, before they were automatically indexed according to the salaries of the military.