Military Review

The State Duma adopted a law on the indexation of pensions for military pensioners from January 1, 2022

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The government will index the pensions of military pensioners and persons equated to them, the corresponding law was adopted by deputies of the State Duma in the first reading and as a whole. This was reported on the official website of the State Duma.


According to the adopted law, the indexation of military pensions will be 8,6%, while earlier it was reported about plans to raise pensions for military pensioners by 4%. The recalculation will be made from January 1, 2022, and not from October 1, as previously assumed. The indexation proposal came from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

As explained, the initial proposal to raise pensions by 1% from October 4 was rejected, as the actual annual inflation significantly exceeded the proposed increase. At the end of last year, inflation was 8,4%.

The adopted decision will allow indexing (...) pensions of military pensioners and persons equated to them, including those who served in the internal affairs bodies, the Russian Guard, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other law enforcement agencies (...) pensions will be recalculated from January 1, 2022

said State Duma Chairman Vyacheslav Volodin.

The government bill on indexation of pensions for military pensioners, submitted to the State Duma on February 10, was considered by the State Duma Defense Committee on February 15 and unanimously recommended for adoption in the first reading and in general, which happened today at the plenary session. The adopted law will affect about 2,6 million people.

It should be noted that the budget included an increase in pensions by only 4%, so additional expenses in 2022-2024 will amount to 154,3 billion rubles.
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  1. Pytnik
    Pytnik 16 February 2022 17: 07
    -2
    Until March 1, will they have time to count?
    1. nnm
      nnm 16 February 2022 17: 10
      +8
      Yes, there is nothing to count. A coefficient is entered into the program and orders with the general list are sent to the savings account. Money is sent to Sberbank from Moscow on the first working day of the month, crediting to PM + 1-2 days.
      There are exceptions, but rarely. So they will count and pay in time.
      1. dedusik
        dedusik 16 February 2022 17: 29
        0
        So the Federation Council and Putin must sign bully
        1. nnm
          nnm 16 February 2022 17: 30
          0
          In fact, at such moments, everything is already ready, the recalculation has been made, only the lists were not sent to the savings before the signing of the law.
        2. prior
          prior 16 February 2022 18: 39
          0
          And indexation, as always, applies only to non-working military pensioners?
          Or will they throw working military pensioners in the same way as civilian working pensioners? Left without indexing.
          Fucking scammers.
          1. Stas Snezhin
            Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 20: 19
            +1
            Quite right. Somehow, this point is not very clear.
            1. faterdom
              faterdom 16 February 2022 22: 31
              +4
              I explain: civilian pensioners are robbed more than those who work. That is, they stupidly do not index their pension from about the 15th year, not forgetting, however, from the bottom to take the social tax to the pension fund !!!
              It is easier with military pensioners - they rob everyone with a chokh, cutting off the legal amount of the pension by a certain "coefficient" that the guarantor appoints by his decree every year. You can either work or not work. The motive is the following - it will be bold, if according to the law. So, better not according to the law, but not fat!
              1. Stas Snezhin
                Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 22: 35
                -1
                Excuse me, what language are you writing in?
                Google refuses to translate it..
                1. faterdom
                  faterdom 16 February 2022 22: 53
                  0
                  Once again briefly.
                  There are different pension laws for the military (siloviki) and civilians.
                  And the military pension is being cut for everyone. They started with a cut of 46%, now it is 24%.
                  Not because you work there or not, just because you are a military pensioner.
                  Civil pensioners are punished with a ruble for the fact that they work. The unemployed are not yet punished, it’s just that now not everyone is taken into pensioners by age.
                  1. Stas Snezhin
                    Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 22: 59
                    0
                    Hello colleague. I will say right away that I did not see your previously published comment.
                    So, it seems that no one has cut my pension yet. I am a major, and so far there have only been little additions. So sorry, what's the question?
                    1. faterdom
                      faterdom 17 February 2022 00: 10
                      0
                      There is a law on military pensions. Position-title-length of service and up to 85% of these figures at the maximum (with a length of service of 32 kopecks a year).
                      So by law.
                      But from the 12th year, the president issues a decree on the eve of the new year, how many percent of this estimated pension, according to the law, will be paid to you next year. Started with 54%, now 74%.
                      That is, you are entitled to 1,0 pensions under the law, but a decree is issued every year to cut it, and seriously. A kind of income tax of 26%.
                      By the way, such percentages are not cut off from judges', deputy's or governor's pensions.
                      1. Stas Snezhin
                        Stas Snezhin 17 February 2022 00: 20
                        -1
                        I apologize for the question .. but you, Andrey, are probably somehow closely informed with some accruals of payments ..?
                      2. faterdom
                        faterdom 17 February 2022 00: 23
                        +1
                        Decrees are published in a timely manner on the Kremlin website. RU.
                        And I'm retired for six years now.
                        But when I was a commander, I had to delve into and explain to subordinate officers, sign their pension calculations.
                      3. Stas Snezhin
                        Stas Snezhin 17 February 2022 00: 29
                        0
                        Understood. And I'm on military pension for the fourth year. Experience 22 years. I just don't understand all these things.
                      4. nnm
                        nnm 17 February 2022 09: 18
                        0
                        This cannot be. Most likely, you could sign calculations for a percentage allowance for military personnel who are serving but have reached retirement age (it was already canceled more than 10 years ago).
                        And for everyone, a different order is calculated by the military registration and enlistment office. And no calculations from RF are used. In some cases, the calculation was made in the financial service of the district (and then, more often they considered the length of service to be controversial), or in the Main Directorate of the Moscow Region (if they set salaries above the category of the position held).
                      5. faterdom
                        faterdom 17 February 2022 10: 50
                        0
                        I did not accrue pensions, but sent the settlement data, which go to the dismissal order, behind my signature and personnel. Accordingly, with those who quit, they calculated what and how it would be from these numbers. A couple of times I stopped rash jumps when a person tried to quit a week before the right to retire (the future employer hurried him), or when a month was not enough for the northern pension to be preserved when moving to warmer climes.
                      6. nnm
                        nnm 17 February 2022 10: 53
                        0
                        I’ll tell you a secret)))) no one even looked at your calculations)))) the length of service, which is indicated in the order for dismissal, is not taken into account at all when calculating a pension)))) only those calculations that I wrote about. And jumps, and classiness, and POR, and so on, only the military registration and enlistment office counts everything for retirement))
                      7. faterdom
                        faterdom 17 February 2022 11: 08
                        0
                        You don't have to tell me the "secret". Without these numbers, my papers would have been wrapped back, with a strict reprimand to the heap. and the dismissal order simply would not have taken place at the right time.
                        Accordingly, nothing would have been received by the military commissariat pension department either.
                        So, do not try to catch me on something - I did my job duties, nothing more. And no less.
                        He helped subordinates to understand this nonsense of all kinds of laws, where they are not aware.
                      8. nnm
                        nnm 17 February 2022 11: 10
                        0
                        Once again, it is the personnel who need your calculation in order to indicate length of service in the dismissal order. To calculate the pension, it is not used from the word "absolutely". It, in 99% of cases, is not even in the first copy of the personal file, which is used to calculate the pension. It is attached only to the second copy, which is not even sent to the regional military registration and enlistment office.
                      9. nnm
                        nnm 17 February 2022 09: 14
                        0
                        Colleague, I know.
              2. Stas Snezhin
                Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 23: 18
                +2
                By the way Andrew, you are right. I have a friend (civilian) pensioner. After all, he quit his job especially before the New Year, so that his pension was raised, as if he were a non-working pensioner.
                Some kind of nonsense .. If you don’t work, then you get benefits.
                And if you are trying to bring more benefit to the country, then Fuck ...
                1. nnm
                  nnm 17 February 2022 09: 19
                  0
                  For military pensioners, this does not matter. The allowance for working pensioners is paid only to civilians.
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          2. dedusik
            dedusik 16 February 2022 20: 27
            +3
            All military pensioners, there is no word about working there
            1. Stas Snezhin
              Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 20: 41
              0
              It's clear. Thanks for the clarification.
            2. prior
              prior 17 February 2022 10: 00
              -1
              The same was said about civilian pensioners.
              And it turned out only when the pension for February was transferred.
              Working civilian pensioners with indexation were simply thrown.
              Do you think military working pensioners are any better?
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      2. Obi-Wan Kenobi
        Obi-Wan Kenobi 17 February 2022 06: 38
        -1
        This is called "shaking off the Russian army" !!!
        Or maybe it's because we sing a little:
        God save the king?!
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 February 2022 17: 16
      -2
      Another fairy tale! Civilians have already been “indexed” by 8 percent, adding 230-305 rubles in fact!
      1. dedusik
        dedusik 16 February 2022 17: 32
        +1
        So it is the insurance pensions of non-working pensioners that have increased social
      2. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 16 February 2022 17: 47
        -3
        Quote: Thrifty
        Another fairy tale! Civilians have already been “indexed” by 8 percent, adding 230-305 rubles in fact!

        At the minimum, I think they raised it by 1000 rubles. Don't underestimate. Even with a pension of 10 thousand, it will be 860 rubles. This is a minuscule, of course, I agree with you on this.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 16 February 2022 18: 09
          +2
          A, K, Vichyakow - a woman with a disability of the second group lives nearby, The pension was 15230 rubles, it became 15505 rubles! I saw the sheet with numbers myself, can you read it? !
          1. SKVichyakow
            SKVichyakow 16 February 2022 18: 51
            +1
            Quote: Thrifty
            A, K, Vichyakow - a woman with a disability of the second group lives nearby, The pension was 15230 rubles, it became 15505 rubles! I saw the sheet with numbers myself, can you read it? !

            Tomorrow I'll find out from people, unsubscribe.
          2. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 16 February 2022 20: 13
            -2
            I report to you with full responsibility. My wife had a pension of 15690 .. It became 17039 so that am ... don't la la!!
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty 16 February 2022 20: 18
              +2
              30vis-former head of the SEB in the company where I received 18200 pensions on an unofficial basis, now 18440-vis 30, that's it, no need la la !!!!! am
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 17 February 2022 08: 41
                -3
                Your artistic whistle is ridiculous.. laughingPensioners do not get higher pensions for working pensioners. you didn't know that? am
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 17 February 2022 10: 30
                  -2
                  Whistlers .. piss in ... There's a bigger hole!
      3. Old Michael
        Old Michael 16 February 2022 17: 49
        +11
        Civilians have already been "indexed" by 8 percent, adding in fact 230-305 rubles!

        1. zloybond
          zloybond 16 February 2022 21: 09
          -3
          Everyone was waiting for the recognition of the republics, but here SUCH !!!! in short, off topic. So that they do not notice that they deceived the hopes of almost a million people drinks
      4. Piramidon
        Piramidon 16 February 2022 18: 42
        -2
        Quote: Thrifty
        Another fairy tale! Civilians have already been "indexed" by 8 percent,

        Raised, but still it's a fairy tale? What exactly? That's just to throw manure.
        1. Bessik
          Bessik 16 February 2022 19: 41
          +3
          In stores, price tags and a communal apartment were also sketched out with manure
    3. Sergey Nikiforov
      Sergey Nikiforov 16 February 2022 17: 55
      -2
      The Federation Council will meet only on March 2. Think about it. And it’s easy to recount
    4. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 16 February 2022 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: Pytnik
      Until March 1, will they have time to count?

      They promised until February 23 ... Let's see ...
      The State Duma adopted a law on the indexation of pensions for military pensioners from January 1, 2022

      They would have recalculated the accrual since 2012 ... Well, at least the recalculation for January 1 was postponed, like for civilians ...
    5. datur
      datur 16 February 2022 18: 22
      -6
      as always, no! and then forget! wink
  2. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 16 February 2022 17: 07
    +8
    At the end of last year, inflation was 8,4%.

    I'm wondering, when were "our" deputies in the store for the last time?
    1. nnm
      nnm 16 February 2022 17: 10
      +18
      Yes, they walk all the time! Armani, Bugatti, Rolex....)))
    2. The black
      The black 16 February 2022 17: 21
      +4
      I'm wondering, when were "our" deputies in the store for the last time?

      You don't have to talk to them... am Boutiques are constantly flying wassat
    3. alone
      alone 16 February 2022 17: 34
      +9
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      I'm wondering, when were "our" deputies in the store for the last time?

      I don’t know about shops, but recently during a meeting they complained about prices in the Duma canteen .. Not enough 450 rubles for lunch crying wassat
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 16 February 2022 17: 37
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        but recently during a meeting they complained about the prices in the Duma canteen ..

        I saw the price list for dishes in this dining room. My wife's cost is more expensive! am
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 February 2022 18: 47
      +4
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      At the end of last year, inflation was 8,4%.

      I'm wondering, when were "our" deputies in the store for the last time?

      Everything is correct. Bread and butter rose in price, while diamonds and yachts fell in price.
  3. The black
    The black 16 February 2022 17: 10
    +6
    I think where to go on vacation now: to the Canary Islands or to the Maldives .... with such money winked
    1. nnm
      nnm 16 February 2022 17: 17
      +4
      I think to leave the children at the institute, or buy an apartment ...
      Yes, that seems to be enough. Now it’s not even clear where to put the wads of money.
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 16 February 2022 18: 10
        +11
        There lived an old man and an old woman.
        The old woman says to her grandfather
        - Grandfather, we seem to have children.
        -Still would! Tomorrow after all pension will bring.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 16 February 2022 18: 10
        -1
        Quote: nnm
        Now it’s not even clear where to put the wads of money.

        Did you watch UE or Russian grandmas?
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 February 2022 17: 18
      0
      Black - to the dacha, just call it "villa", "cottage", "mansion"! wassat
      1. The black
        The black 16 February 2022 17: 19
        0
        Black - to the dacha, just call it "villa", "cottage", "mansion"!
        winked hmm .... lock laughing
    3. fiberboard
      fiberboard 16 February 2022 17: 40
      +5
      Now it is necessary to transfer pensions into oshfors, launder capital. Smart people do this.
      1. Aag
        Aag 16 February 2022 21: 29
        +1
        Quote: fiberboard
        Now it is necessary to transfer pensions into oshfors, launder capital. Smart people do this.

        Apparently (judging by the minuses), not everyone appreciated the joke of humor ... ((( hi
  4. nnm
    nnm 16 February 2022 17: 13
    +19
    And I have another proposal - let's discuss today's statement by Peskov that the president believes that the appeal adopted yesterday by the State Duma to recognize the independence of the LDNR does not correspond to Minsk -2 and this issue is not being discussed yet.
    That is, yesterday we waved a carrot in front of more than a million people who have been living in a state of war for the eighth year, and now into the bushes?
    What kind of political game is this with people's lives?! No shame, no conscience left, right?
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 February 2022 17: 31
      0
      nnm-so after all, there is business in the first place! Why they didn’t let them take Mariupol-Akhmetov called the Kremlin, asked and demanded to stop the offensive of the Republicans. Here, too, business, not according to the Kremlin, if that land rockets fly. By the way, the Kremlin waved carrots in front of the Russian layman with might and main, and then they simply threw it, yes, into the bushes ...
      1. nnm
        nnm 16 February 2022 17: 36
        +4
        Yeah .... just a shame!
        It's a shame for such games of politicians.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 16 February 2022 17: 42
          -3
          nnm-zatl someone raised their rating with this beautiful fairy tale, or, raised it higher than the plinth to look ...
    2. alone
      alone 16 February 2022 17: 36
      +2
      Quote: nnm
      What kind of political game is this with people's lives?! No shame, no conscience left, right?

      Shame, conscience and politics? belay
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 16 February 2022 17: 43
        -2
        lonely-everything is possible in politics, although not for everyone!! sad
        1. alone
          alone 16 February 2022 20: 17
          +2
          Quote: Thrifty
          lonely-everything is possible in politics, although not for everyone!!

          Well, look for shame in politicians, and even more so conscience, I won’t drink so much!
    3. Dzerjinskiy56
      Dzerjinskiy56 16 February 2022 17: 48
      0
      Very briefly: Putin plays further in "Minsk", the Duma also creates a kind of ebullient activity!!! Judging by the silence of the Dumtsev, this is just a performance.
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    5. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 16 February 2022 18: 45
      -2
      that you are so impatient to drive a wave, about the fact that Putin has lied? laughing
    6. Hagen
      Hagen 16 February 2022 20: 32
      +5
      Quote: nnm
      That is, yesterday we waved a carrot in front of more than a million people who have been living in a state of war for the eighth year, and now into the bushes?

      What they waved in front of people is just a preparation for the last peaceful argument to keep Ze from rushing to Donetsk. And the fact that this blank is on the President’s desk shows that a decision on a possibly not at all peaceful reaction from Putin can follow almost instantly at the start of an offensive operation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I think that in the stack with this blank there are other documents that have not yet been signed by him, forming a military and military-technical response to a provocation, to which we cannot fail to respond. Therefore, I would advise you not to hurry with a reminder of conscience. There, they have it no less than you. Only behind their decisions, unlike yours, are the lives of millions of fellow citizens really worth .... I propose to wait a bit with critical assessments.
  5. keeper03
    keeper03 16 February 2022 17: 13
    +1
    And it’s weak to act on preemption ?! what yes
  6. nnm
    nnm 16 February 2022 17: 15
    +6
    And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions? Or limit your content?
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 16 February 2022 17: 25
      +4
      Quote: nnm
      And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions?

      Then pensions will become simply prohibitive, by our standards, of course.
      Yesterday, a naval aviator shared his memories, casually mentioned the monthly allowance, which caused some misunderstanding among a number of readers, let's say.
      If you voice the current military pensions, this will cause not only misunderstanding, but anger.
      And, with the abolition of this coefficient, pensions will become cosmic, and even here everything is simple - there is no money, where to get it. Any military pensioner, in the words of the great coach V. Lobanovsky, is a waste material, and so it was under any government.
      1. nnm
        nnm 16 February 2022 17: 28
        +4
        Understand. But I want people to understand that they should not want someone else to receive less, but that everyone else would receive a decent pension.
        But in fact, even the pilots and seafarers, in fact, would receive not so huge pensions in terms of dollars. Or taking into account the price of what health losses they were given to them.
    2. dedusik
      dedusik 16 February 2022 17: 34
      +1
      Quote: nnm
      And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions? Or limit your content?

      So it has already been raised by 0.00 horseradish tenths of a percent, but the recalculation has already been done. bully
      1. nnm
        nnm 16 February 2022 17: 38
        0
        laughing laughing Apparently, this is such a huge amount that I did not even notice. Probably just increased by a few digits.
        1. dedusik
          dedusik 16 February 2022 17: 40
          0
          Oh, within a hundred bully In the pension, they said that in order to receive money at Sberbank, I drove a KAMAZ truck, otherwise you won’t be able to take it away wassat
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 16 February 2022 22: 23
          0
          Quote: dedusik
          Quote: nnm
          And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions? Or limit your content?

          So it has already been raised by 0.00 horseradish tenths of a percent, but the recalculation has already been done. bully


          Quote: nnm
          laughing laughing Apparently, this is such a huge amount that I did not even notice. Probably just increased by a few digits.

          As much as 103 full-fledged rubles fell on my card. Not even enough for a pack of cigarettes.
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 February 2022 17: 45
      +2
      nnm- I look at the "holy", have you coveted? lol You also propose to cancel tattooed immunity laughing
    4. Stepan S
      Stepan S 16 February 2022 17: 53
      0
      By the way, the increase in pensions just provides for the very increase in pensions by 4%, as was determined by the budget, and an increase in the reduction coefficient to 77,41%
      "As a result, we have achieved an increase in the so-called "reducing factor". From October 1, 2022, it will be 77,41 percent"

      A mechanism has also been developed to increase such charges. First, a monthly supplement of 8,6 percent of the assigned pension will be established. It will be charged from January 1 to October 1 of this year. Then, as it was supposed earlier, military pensions will increase by 1 percent from October 4. This will happen simultaneously with a 4 percent indexation of the monetary allowance of military personnel.

      The next step will be an increase in military pension payments in two "streams". For those retirees who parted with shoulder straps before 2012 and after a serious increase in monetary allowance in the army fell under the so-called "reducing factor", the share of monetary allowance taken into account when calculating military pensions will be raised from the current 74 to 77,41 percent. And retirees-veterans will establish a monthly supplement to the pension in the amount of 4,6 percent.
    5. Aag
      Aag 16 February 2022 21: 40
      0
      Quote: nnm
      And they do not want to remove the marginal limiting coefficient when calculating pensions? Or limit your content?

      You know, I also have a lot of questions. But let's, please, at least here, without populism, in essence ...
      I can understand you - sometimes you yourself "tears" to pieces from the "multi-vector" statements of officials.
      Just... -drinks Our talking shop ... - at best (for the authorities, - in the first place, - "steam release"). hi
      1. nnm
        nnm 16 February 2022 23: 15
        0
        And I see it differently - you can not be silent. It is impossible for people to sit and think that they alone think so, it is impossible for the authorities to think that everything is submissive to their "drawing" of elections, laws are adopted, you cannot just be silent. After all, in the beginning there was a word ...
      2. Nest
        Nest 17 February 2022 09: 42
        0
        But let's, without populism from 8%, just raise the pension of all the military by 5 thousand rubles? From lieutenant to general. The same money will leave the budget, since the junior staff of 8% is miserable crumbs, and for generals - 8% is significant. And for many years they played with these percentages. In fact, the increase in pensions in monetary terms for the senior staff was much higher than the rest. That's until they remove all these limiting coefficients - to raise everyone by a fixed amount. Another point (maybe someone does not know this). The usual major of the FSB, who served n.p. all his life in the accounting department of this respected organization, a pension of about 40 thousand rubles. They have already reduced this reduction factor a long time ago. I agree that the border guards (they seem to be included there) deserve an increased pension. But I do not agree that n.p. a lieutenant colonel or a major 25 years old, who have wandered around the garrisons, deserve 25-30 thousand, and for office workers the money was found in the budget, even in ranks much lower. So there is money in the budget, only they are divided by the right of the strong. Some of the top commanders "knocked out" benefits and a higher pension for their own, but some could not. Fair benefits for the military will be remembered only when the war is at the threshold.
  7. Bradley
    Bradley 16 February 2022 17: 32
    -1
    That's all great, but what about the prices? Maybe the government will take some measures to increase prices? To keep prices from going up...
    Buckwheat norms 180 rubles! Have you fallen from the oak tree?
    Payment for services for a hut, electricity, water (especially hot) is growing. And wages are not going up. If 10 years ago 80k really had money, today it is so, to go for bread.
    The government is losing money because of the sanctions, but for some reason I have to pay...
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 February 2022 17: 47
      +1
      Bradley, as one of our ??? officials said, "no one forces you to live"! sad
      1. Stepan S
        Stepan S 16 February 2022 18: 20
        0
        Ten years ago, Mr. "Bradley" had a normal salary of 80 rubles, and the vast majority in the country would be happy to work for such a salary even now. So his crying in Greek for 180 rubles does not look sincere.
        1. Bradley
          Bradley 16 February 2022 19: 58
          +2
          Ten years ago, Mr. "Bradley" had a normal salary of 80 rubles, and the vast majority in the country would be happy to work for such a salary even now.

          How cleverly you juggle words.
          If 10 years ago 80k was good money, it does not mean that I received that much.
          But you're good, you'll go far.)
    2. Stepan S
      Stepan S 16 February 2022 17: 54
      -1
      Buckwheat norms 180 rubles! Have you fallen from the oak tree?

      Do you buy buckwheat in boutiques? We have twice the price of buckwheat.
      1. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 16 February 2022 18: 02
        +1
        Quote: Stepan S
        Do you buy buckwheat in boutiques? We have twice the price of buckwheat.

        Do you think that 90 rubles. - good price for buckwheat?
        1. Stepan S
          Stepan S 16 February 2022 18: 08
          -4
          The economy is now global, we could not build communism. And the peasants also want to eat and will not sell buckwheat for three rubles.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 16 February 2022 19: 01
            +5
            Quote: Stepan S
            And the peasants also want to eat and will not sell buckwheat for three rubles.

            Aha ha ha! Where did you find peasants there? Or are you trying to pass off Mirotorg, Tkachev and other landowners as peasants? Have you heard of export duties? How is it that the Russian Federation is one of the leading exporters of wheat, and it is inside the country at such a price that it is not profitable to keep chickens for an egg?
            Quote: Stepan S
            The economy is now global, we could not build communism.

            Well, let's start with the fact that you didn't build communism.))) And about the global economy, you tell this fairy tale somewhere else, otherwise I'll tell you now how it turns out that in the global economy, connecting gas to Pridnestrovie costs 150 $, and we have 250 thousand, prices in the Baltic states are 10-20% more expensive, and the average salary is $ 1500, and here Khusnulin whines that there are few migrants, and Russians have to pay 30-50% more. So, what about the global economy, in this context, you better not open your mouth!
        2. Repellent
          Repellent 16 February 2022 18: 17
          +3
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Do you think that 90 rubles. - good price for buckwheat?

          It depends if you are buying or selling laughing

          I ask without offense - this is just a paraphrase of an old, like the world, anecdote ...
        3. Stas Snezhin
          Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 21: 45
          +1
          Once upon a time I heard that in many countries they don’t eat buckwheat at all.
          And here we are, eating. Perhaps the physiology is a little different ..
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 16 February 2022 21: 57
            +2
            Quote: Stas Snezhin
            Once upon a time I heard that in many countries they don’t eat buckwheat at all.
            And here we are, eating. Perhaps the physiology is a little different ..

            All peoples have different food preferences, and not only peoples, in the Kuban, as well as in Ukraine, they love borscht, and in central Russia - cabbage soup, I once tried herring, Icelandic salting, so it is generally sweet, very unusual and unexpected .))) Some dishes of the northern peoples, such as rotten fish or meat, cannot be eaten without a habit at all, it is life-threatening.
            1. Stas Snezhin
              Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 22: 12
              +2
              Yes, I completely agree with you. Surströmming, few people can master. Yes, and rotten fish in the carcass of a walrus ..))

              PS From the memories.: The entire coast of the Krasnodar Territory completely passed, everything is fine. And for some reason, I liked the small quiet town of Slavyansk in the Kuban ..)) Good luck!
              1. alekseykabanets
                alekseykabanets 16 February 2022 22: 23
                +2
                Quote: Stas Snezhin
                And for some reason, I liked the small quiet town of Slavyansk in the Kuban ..))

                This is because you have not been to Psebay.)))) Forest, mountains, trout in rivers, clean air. In the summer, children from the tourism section go to the sea, through the pass, about 70 km from the sea.
                1. Stas Snezhin
                  Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 22: 32
                  +1
                  You know, to be honest, for some reason I have never even heard about your interesting city before. Although, I have been to the Krasnodar Territory many times. So, thank you for a new interesting landmark ..))
                  If possible, I will definitely visit. Thank you very much !
                  1. alekseykabanets
                    alekseykabanets 16 February 2022 23: 16
                    +1
                    Quote: Stas Snezhin
                    You know, to be honest, for some reason I have never even heard about your interesting city before.

                    This is an urban-type settlement, under the USSR it was a resort of regional significance, camp sites, sanatoriums still remain. Knauf, you must have heard that we have it.
                    1. Stas Snezhin
                      Stas Snezhin 16 February 2022 23: 41
                      +2
                      Thank you very much from Siberia. Kuzbass. Novokuznetsk.
      2. Bradley
        Bradley 16 February 2022 18: 16
        +1
        Do you buy buckwheat in boutiques? We have twice the price of buckwheat.

        At the grocery store. And yes, for 90 rubles you take buckwheat with husks.
        1. Stepan S
          Stepan S 16 February 2022 18: 22
          -1
          And yes, for 90 rubles you take buckwheat with husks.

          Here it is more visible with what I have buckwheat. But it is possible that all the vitamins are concentrated in the husk.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 16 February 2022 19: 12
            +3
            Quote: Stepan S
            that in the husk just all the vitamins are concentrated.

            And you try to take bran instead of cereals, you will have vitamins .....
    3. Kushka
      Kushka 16 February 2022 18: 13
      +4
      -Here I am 75 years old, and I feel like a student.
      - What, girls are attracted to?
      -No, I want to eat all the time.
    4. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 16 February 2022 19: 08
      +5
      Quote: Bradley
      The government is losing money because of the sanctions, but for some reason I have to pay...

      What do you think the Abramoviches, Potanins, members of the Ozero cooperative will pay? Do not wait, this is their state, it is their interests that this state protects. And it will send you somewhere to fight, Solovyov and Skobeeva will tell you how patriotic it is, because we are in the ring of enemies.))))
      1. Bradley
        Bradley 16 February 2022 19: 11
        0
        What do you think the Abramoviches, Potanins, members of the Ozero cooperative will pay? Do not wait, this is their state, it is their interests that this state protects. And it will send you somewhere to fight, Solovyov and Skobeeva will tell you how patriotic it is, because we are in the ring of enemies.))))


        And don't argue.
    5. Aag
      Aag 16 February 2022 21: 42
      +1
      Quote: Bradley
      That's all great, but what about the prices? Maybe the government will take some measures to increase prices? To keep prices from going up...
      Buckwheat norms 180 rubles! Have you fallen from the oak tree?
      Payment for services for a hut, electricity, water (especially hot) is growing. And wages are not going up. If 10 years ago 80k really had money, today it is so, to go for bread.
      The government is losing money because of the sanctions, but for some reason I have to pay...

      Now they will tell you that you chose the government ...))).
  8. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 16 February 2022 17: 34
    +3
    The assistants to the deputies had their salaries indexed from 300 to 000 rubles. Almost 387%. The real amount of inflation.
    The rest of the pensioners had to add 12,9%.
    But our guarantor ordered 8,6%. ..."with a slight gap".
    1. Hey
      Hey 16 February 2022 17: 59
      -6
      The assistants to the deputies had their salaries indexed from 300 to 000 rubles.


      387000 rub. allocated for 7 assistants, of which 2 in the Duma 5 in the regions from which the deputy was elected. Of course, he can have either more assistants or less and distribute this amount as he pleases. It may also have assistants on a voluntary basis. But as a rule, a deputy pays extra from his assistants.
  9. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 16 February 2022 17: 42
    +5
    And I will not refuse indexing. wink
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 16 February 2022 17: 57
      +2
      In no case.
      To pensioners who regularly pay for
      utilities, tax will come
      with a check - where does the money come from?
  10. Kushka
    Kushka 16 February 2022 18: 07
    +2
    [quote = dedusik] So the insurance pensions of non-working pensioners have also increased social [/ quote]
    It was 2050
    Two people are talking.
    -Have you heard that there are people who are called pensioners?
    - Heard, but no one has seen them yet.
    1. Aag
      Aag 16 February 2022 21: 47
      +1
      [quote = Kushka][quote = dedusik] So the insurance pensions of non-working pensioners have also increased social [/ quote]
      It was 2050
      Two people are talking.
      -Have you heard that there are people who are called pensioners?
      - I heard, but no one has seen them yet. [/ Quote]

      Do not downvote the author of this comment!
      I don't think he set out to offend pensioners.
      He draws the perspective seen by the economic bloc of "our" government ...)))
  11. zloybond
    zloybond 16 February 2022 20: 33
    0
    This type April 1 !!!! Sehat with the topic of recognition of independence LDNR ????? The type of people shaval (PEOPLE), and did not notice how the conversation had gone from the republics of the theme ???? drinks
  12. Sir Galant
    Sir Galant 16 February 2022 21: 09
    0
    not so simple. in the explanatory note such nonsense is written .... the mad printer distorted the direct and clear desire of the guarantor
    1. Dmitriy444
      Dmitriy444 16 February 2022 22: 33
      0
      Yes, they did not pervert anything, you need to think about it. They sent a paper from the government, pressed the buttons, that's it! After all, the chief ordered. I would look at how they perverted in the government, because here and from 01.01. and 01.10. and how to do it all, so as not to overpay, God forbid. Well, with an increase in the humiliating coefficient, you can sleep peacefully until the age of 24, but you were increased much more at 22, so enjoy life.
  13. iouris
    iouris 17 February 2022 00: 25
    -1
    Just don't raise your pensions!
  14. sgr291158
    sgr291158 17 February 2022 05: 21
    0
    What can I say, it's better than nothing.
  15. fa2998
    fa2998 17 February 2022 06: 07
    -1
    Quote: dedusik
    So the Federation Council and Putin must sign

    And why is it so difficult? Duma, federation, president, if this provision is included in the Constitution (Basic Law), take the government and do it!
    When the president needed to be "zeroed out", this amendment was also made to the Constitution. Pensioners rushed to vote. It turns out that we have pensioners of the 1st grade, 2,3nd, XNUMXrd grade. what what hi
  16. dnestr74
    dnestr74 17 February 2022 10: 27
    0
    And the hell is it necessary? Are there any specific laws? The circus is populist, before they were automatically indexed according to the salaries of the military.