Indonesia intends to purchase AH-64D Apache Longbow helicopters in the US

The Defense Cooperation and Security Agency (DSCA) of the US Department of Defense has notified Congress of the planned delivery of Indonesia as part of the Foreign Military Sales program of attack helicopters AH-64D Block 3 Apache Longbow.

With contractual equipment, parts and services, the total value of the contract could be 1,42 billion dollars.

The Indonesian government has requested the United States to purchase 8 attack helicopters AH-64D 3 Apache Longbow X-series, 19 T-700-GE-701D engines (16 installed and 3 spare), 9 upgraded detection and targeting systems / night night detection and targeting systems / night night X / NXX systems, 4 upgraded detection and targeting systems / night night detection and targeting systems / night night X / NXX systems, and 78 upgraded detection and targeting systems / night night detection systems / target night systems / night systems / 4 / 48 / 10 XNXX 57 attack engines. M-TADS / PNVS, 3 AN / APG-5 “Longbow” millimeter-range fire control radar, AN / APR-10A, 2 Aar-10 (V) 39 interceptometers, AAR-4 (V) 24 / 21 interferometer (CMWS) AAR-32 (V) 299 / 1 interferometer (CMWS) AAR-140 (V) 114 / 3 missile attack warning systems (CMWS) AAR-XNUMX (V) XNUMX / XNUMX missile attack warning systems (CMWS) AAR-XNUMX (V) XNUMX / XNUMX, CMNS X advanced trap shooting machines, XNUMX laser warning systems AN / AVR-XNUMXB , XNUMX radar exposure detection kits AN / APR-XNUMXA (V) XNUMX, XNHMX, and integrated target targeting and indication systems (IHDSS-XNUMX), XNUMX launchers MXNUMXAXNUMX Hellfire and XNUMX PTUR AGMMXXXXXXNUMX Hellfire and XNUMX PTUR AGMMXXXXXXXXNXX Hemfire and XNUMX PTUR AGMMX launchers, and XNUMX PTM AGMXAXNXXXXMX

The request also includes the supply of defendants of the “friend-foe” state identification system, 30-mm guns and ammunition, communications equipment, tools, test equipment, simulators, generators, spare parts and components, auxiliary equipment, technical documentation, personnel training and logistical support from the us government and contractor.

The Armed Forces of Indonesia intend to use Apache helicopters to deter external threats, control borders, combat terrorism and piracy, and ensure the safety of maritime communications in the Malacca Strait.

As noted in the DSCA notice, the sale of AH-64D helicopters will enhance the combat capabilities of the Indonesian Armed Forces and the ability to interact with the US Armed Forces.

The main contractors selected are Boeing, Lockheed Martin Corporation, General Electric, Longbow Limited Life Corporation.

Notice of sale is published in accordance with the requirements of US law and does not mean that the contracts for the sale of equipment in the requested amount will be signed.

Comments

[spender]

Vassal must be armed, which the United States is doing. Do not know Indonesia's economy interesting real money? However, amers do not really forgive loans, rather they will remove the skins
Looked, the skins will remain natives, reimburse resources

The mining industry operates mainly large national companies, a significant part of which are owned by the state, as well as Western commodity corporations. The largest of the national companies is the state monopoly Pertamina, which controls oil production and refining [147].

Oil production (for 2009) amounted to more than 1,02 million barrels per day (37th place in the world), natural gas - 85,7 billion cubic meters per year (8th place in the world) [147]. Also, all the mineral resources listed in the section “Relief, inland waters, minerals, soils” are mined on an industrial scale.

[Rustam]

Vassal must be equipped, which the United States is doing
____
and we don’t take off our skins, but a sweet soul, enough people to carry foolishness and rubbish
1-new Russian weapons to Indonesia except su-delivered on credit
6-mi-35p
17-bmp-3f
14-mi-17v5
small arms and ammunition
New loan for Indonesia to purchase our weapons
(they choose now)

we don’t take off our skins, by the way before that there was a US embargo on the supply of arms to Indonesia

in the photo mi-35p new construction for the Indonesian air force

[spender]

Quote: Rustam

and we don’t take off our skins, but a sweet soul, enough people to carry foolishness and rubbish

Something I do not see a set of North Korean skins ...

[Rustam]

and this depends on politicians, a generous Russian soul for plowing
we better give loans to countries that will give back for decades, but neither

[ShturmKGB]

Good radar on Apache, and so bullshit, ours is better! (Mi-28 and K-52)

[Gym teacher]

ShturmKGB

and so bullshit, ours are better! (Mi-28 and K-52)

Indonesia's decision deserves respect. "Apache" has no worthy competitors in the modern world, which was once again proved by the tests of two machines in India in the fall of 2011.

Lacking an overhead radar and well-tuned electronics, the Mi-28N "Night Hunter" was not worth trying to participate in a night battle with the "Apache" - a proven killer with the most modern electronics tore another bluff of the Russian military-industrial complex like a vest. The Indians recoiled in disgust from the much-hyped Russian wunderwafe and bought 24 Apache helicopters.

link - http://topwar.ru/7967-indiya-predpochla-apach-nochnomu-ohotniku.html

In the winter of 1991, Apaches flew through a solid wall of smoke from burning oil wells, finding Iraqi SCADs and destroying air defense systems - in one night, February 17-18, the Apaches laid 4 corridors in the Iraqi air defense system. At the present time in the world there is no equal to the American attack helicopter AN-64 "Apache"

[Rustam]

Fizruk is understandable, but why is the text in red ????

[crazyrom]

Quote: Rustam

Fizruk is understandable, but why is the text in red ????

Because he is sober. And he lied, there is nothing like that by reference.

[crazyrom]

Quote: Fizruk

link - http://topwar.ru/7967-indiya-predpochla-apach-nochnomu-ohotniku.html

There is nothing that you said on this link, so swallow your feces back, do not pour them onto our helicopter.

[Rustam]

not bad for Indonesians - quality leap
although they already have 6 mi-35p

[davoks]

the cost of one Apache is 50-60 million bucks. They order 8. 8 Apaches - that's 400-480 million bucks.

Is this all the rest worth a billion ??

19 T-700-GE-701D engines (16 installed and 3 spare), 9 upgraded detection and target designation / night vision systems M-TADS / PNVS, 4 AN / APG-78 Longbow fire control radars, 4 interferometers AN / APR-48A, 10 Missile Attack Warning Systems (CMWS) AAR-57 (V) 3/5 with sensors and advanced automatic trap ejection systems, 10 AN / AVR-2B laser warning systems, 10 AN radar detection sets / APR-39A (V) 4, 24 integrated helmet-mounted target designation and indication systems (IHDSS-21), 32 M299A1 Hellfire launchers and 140 AGM-114R-3 Hellfire ATGMs.

[Rustam]

you have to pay for pleasure
video assembly at the Boeing factory version 3
Characteristics of the AH-64D "Longbow Apache" helicopter

Crew: 2, power plant: 2 x GTE General Electric T700-GE-701C with a capacity of 1417kW, rotor diameter: 14.6m, length with rotating propellers: 17.3m, height: 4.2m, maximum takeoff weight: 8006kg, empty weight: 4657 kg, maximum combat load: 771 kg, maximum dive speed: 309 km / h, dynamic ceiling: 6250 m, flight range with fuel in internal tanks: 611 km, armament: 30 mm cannon, 16 ATGM "Hellfire" or 76 x 70- mm NAR
full story http://topwar.ru/14043-ah-64d-apache-block-iii-level-4-pogonschik-elektronnyh-dr
onov.html

[patsantre]

Yes, strange things. For 8 Apaches they put out 1.5 billion? Indeed, the equipment is a little expensive. Apache, of course, is the best in its class, but for the same money you could buy our bears 5 times more with a full set.

[Rustam]

it means something did not suit
although they ordered at one time a cheap version of the mi-35p

[davoks]

Apache Block 3 with all the equipment just costs 50-60 million dollars

http://www.aircraftcompare.com/helicopter-airplane/Boeing-AH-64D-Apache-Longbow/
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[Santa Fe]

Mi-17 (export version of Mi-8) costs 17-20 million

[Sleptsoff]

It remains only to envy cleanliness in the assembly shop. When you work in such good conditions and treat your business accordingly and helicopters fall much less frequently.

[sasha127]

Well, and the flag in their hands. Let them buy the American Apache; I don’t know why they didn’t like the Mi-35, but the Ka-50 is better. BERO is not a problem to order any, Israeli, French or whatever. In terms of aerobatic characteristics, the Apache cannot be compared with the Ka-50. So, on the coaxial Ka-50, no additional engine power is required to rotate the tail rotor. Due to this, the Ka-50 outperforms traditional helicopters in combat maneuvering, especially in mountainous conditions and at high air temperatures. The tail rotor imposes significant restrictions on combat maneuvering. at speeds of more than 120-150 km, due to the strength of the tail rotor and tail boom, sliding is limited or not allowed at all. The Ka-50 is capable of performing a flat turn in the entire range of flight speeds. This allows it to take an advantageous position for attack in the shortest time. them .. let them buy, maybe it's better for us that not the Ka-50.

[Rustam]

I liked the Mi-35, but the Ka-50
_______
Uncle, I'm sorry, of course, but the KA-50 is no longer manufactured
mi-35p version for the poor - not around the clock and not all weather

ps-Wise men at one time destroyed the ka-50, clearing the path of the mi-28n
I myself love this car, the remaining few machines live their lives in Torzhok, developing their resources, naturally, no one will repair them

[sasha127]

Yes I know that. But we have tobish, Russia has a Ka-52. And mine on the Ka-50 to put the cross too early. I hope all is not lost.

[patsantre]

Is the Ka-50 the best? Well, when normal missiles with an active seeker, over-muzzle radar and NORMAL VEO are pushed in there, then we will stutter. Can you install any order, you say? That's just that nothing of the above could be produced in Russia (with the over-muzzle radar it was supposed to to be Mi-28, but somehow it didn’t succeed, and the Apache, as far as I know, is the only serial helicopter with a sim gadget, that is, radars would have to be ordered in the USA. So far, there are alternatives to American hellfires (with an active seeker and ballistic trajectory) no, at least in the series.)
Why is the Ka-50 better? Only maneuverability, it turns out. But why do helicopters dance around a target when you can just shoot it from a safe distance? So do not idolize the Ka-50.

[sasha127]

The Ka-52 also has a sub-radar and not the same as the Mi-28. As for the shot from a safe distance, this is a very controversial issue. The Hellfire weapon is of course a serious one, but the Whirlwind is no worse, the speed is twice as fast as that of Hellfare. ATGM combat unit is unified to destroy ground-based air targets moving at speeds up to 800 km.

[Rustam]

Lord, yes there are no whirlwinds (it flies beautifully through a window in a movie) they aren’t like, but they don’t buy them

lobbied for the purchase of ATAKA missiles - there are Hermes with better characteristics but something doesn’t grow together (the lobby does not)

[patsantre]

Ka-52’s overhead muzzle radar? It’s not visible in the pictures, I haven’t seen any data, at least share a link. As for the missiles - what does the speed of a rocket of this class matter? IMHO, no. Yes, and the hellfire in the infantry is pretty good, even the video they spread it on behalf of the Apache operator.
But the Apache can lean out slightly from behind the hill, remaining invulnerable to the enemy, and launch a missile at the target (while it is not even necessary to detect it with the help of the radar, it can be detected by another Apache and transmit target designation to another Apache who is not in the enemy's zone of destruction), after which the Apache launches a rocket (and in the process of its flight, it can fire at another target, launch another rocket, fly away from the shelling in the end. Our helicopters will have to hang and highlight the target, it will not work to fly away or start working on another), the rocket this one flies along a ballistic trajectory, which allows hitting targets out of sight and hitting the upper, least protected projection of tanks. And the "fire and forget" technology itself eliminates operator error when controlling the missile (because it does not need to be controlled), that is, it provides higher hitting accuracy.
Vortices and attacks didn’t stand nearby. And we, by the way, have a Hellfire analogue - this is hermes. They just don’t rush to arm themselves.

[aksakal]

Quote: patsantre

But the Apache can lean out a bit from behind the hill, remaining invulnerable to the enemy, launch a missile on the target (it’s not even necessary to detect it with the help of the radar, it can be detected by another Apache and transfer the target designation to another Apache that is not in the enemy’s zone of destruction), after which the Apache launches a rocket (and in the process of its flight, it can fire at another target, launch another rocket, fly out of the shelling in the end. Our helicopters will have to hang and light up the target, fly away or start working on another one will not work), the rocket this one flies along a ballistic trajectory, which makes it possible to hit

- They have already discussed all this twenty times, and as if everything was being re-created. Having a Hellfire at Longbow is good. Only the vast majority of targets are not dangerous to a helicopter and are easily destroyed by unguided missile shells. In any case, the majority of the Yutiubov cadres, where Longbow works with the continuous use of Helfire, runs around a bunch of defenseless spirits in a panic, and they follow them - and for every spirit - according to Helfair! Generally super. At this distance - a couple of kilometers - and unguided shells - precision weapons. But there is not much need for hermes in this situation - only when the tank is the target. The tank is really dangerous for a helicopter, and therefore, the hermes here is unambiguous.
But again, the cat wept for tank spirits, but for the furry years of release. Against a serious adversary - again, a hermes on the suspension, say KA-52 is ten times less necessary than NARSs - I assure you, that's exactly how the situation is. And shoot at each spirit on a helfire - admire the amers further. I do not see any advantages of Longbow

[patsantre]

I don’t understand something. Do you think the helicopter doesn’t need weapons that allow it to hit the enemy while remaining invulnerable? (Yes, and hellfire has other advantages, described above). He doesn’t need any protection at all, the vast majority of targets are dangerous for It doesn’t represent a helicopter. The fact that the helicopter is equipped with a more efficient missile and avionics, which, albeit indirectly, greatly increase its munchability is not an advantage? And what is the advantage then?

[aksakal]

Quote: sasha127

The Ka-52 also has an overhead radar and not the same as the Mi-28

- there is no and is not planned on the KA-52 over-sleeve radar. The "Crossbow" built into the bow is also a theme and has its pros and cons compared to the supra-hub radar - with the supra-hub radar the helicopter is noticeably higher, the Longbow's speed from 320 to 260 immediately drops - as much as 60 km / h down the drain. There are other disadvantages, but about that, contact the specialists and teach the materiel, otherwise "navtulochnaya radar is a panacea for everything, the helicopter automatically becomes the best in the world!" Kindergarten! And on the ship-borne KA-52K, they are planning a cut-down version of the Zhuk-A radar, which is installed on modern MiG-29s.
Mine is in shock. What does kindergarten do on this site?

[DIMS]

Do not tell me, and then what kind of device?

[Rustam]

6-year-old trial versions — serial come with an internal radar crossbow

[DIMS]

However, all the stories about the supra-muzzle radar are based on this photos. With the Ka-50, the same nonsense - one photo in poor resolution somewhere in the hangar. With over-the-body radar. Or her layout.

By the way, is she really needed? The German anti-tank version of the "Tiger" does not have one, instead a sighting system is installed.

[SenyaYa]

Wow, they bought the apache, apparently they didn’t know that the best is miNXX and ka 28 !!! WELL DUPY !!!!!)))

[Alexei]

Quote: SenyaYA

Wow, they bought the apache, apparently they didn’t know that the best is miNXX and ka 28 !!! WELL DUPY !!!!!)))

Senya, let me ignore your irony? You, apparently, are so crazy that you don’t even have to justify anything. Your comment doesn’t roll here, it’s painfully childish. You know, give us the details. And if there are none, then you should not write.

[SenyaYa]

What do you have no Internet ... nowhere to read TTX ???? I feel sorry for you

[patsantre]

Son, why are you sitting at the computer again? Well, do the march! Start the multiplication of numbers, then it will be difficult!

[SenyaYa]

If I were your son, I would hang myself on a doorknob in the bathroom for a long time)) without having outstripped my 6th day of jam))) papule)))

[patsantre]

How happy I would be, and not only I. At the expense of 6 days of jam - I correctly noticed about my age.

[Vikmay16]

The Americans have advanced navigation and electronics, and they take it!